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Red_Herringi used the flight 3 cd12:01
mcsteelscan any1 help me with mplayer for amd6412:01
fatejudgerthe Live CD is different12:01
Red_Herringand i kept getting kcrash complaining12:01
fatejudgerand generally sucks12:01
Red_Herringit shoudl be12:02
Red_Herring!mplayer12:02
ubotuI guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106112:02
fatejudgerwhy does everyone want mplayer?12:02
fatejudgerwhat is so bad about Kaffeine?12:02
Red_Herring!vlc12:02
ubotuit has been said that vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)12:02
fatejudgerthey fixed that stupid crashing in 0.7.112:02
fatejudger!kaffeine12:02
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, fatejudger12:02
=== Red_Herring <3 vlc
fatejudgerdamnit!12:02
fatejudgervlc is ugly as hell12:02
Red_Herring!kaffiene12:02
ubotuRed_Herring: No idea12:02
fatejudgerand isn't embedded in Konqueror12:02
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Red_Herringfatejudger: get the qt version12:02
Red_Herringand besides, kaffiene uses gstreamer, which SUCKS12:03
Red_Herringit has potential12:03
fatejudgerRed_Herring: it also uses Xine12:03
Red_Herringbut as of now it sucks12:03
fatejudgerRed_Herring: just in case you didn't know12:03
Red_Herringi know12:03
fatejudgerRed_Herring: and Gstreamer 0.10 works great12:03
Red_Herringjust as totem can too12:03
Red_Herringwhats included now?12:03
Red_Herring,8?12:03
fatejudgeryeah12:03
mcsteelshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 doesnt work for amd6412:04
fatejudger.10 has a lot of fixes for different sound cards12:04
mcsteelsor i cant get it to work12:04
Red_Herringnice12:04
fatejudgerand is just more reliable in general12:04
Red_Herringi never had problems with anything but gstreamer12:04
fatejudgersame here12:04
Red_Herringmcsteels: isnt it in the repos?12:04
fatejudgerit works great on  my laptop for some reason though12:04
fatejudgerbut on my desktop is just flat wouldn't work12:04
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Red_Herringwhen i had 64 bit i used mplayer12:04
Red_Herringbut w/o wine i went back to the 32 bit version12:05
fatejudger!w32codecs12:05
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:05
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Red_Herringfatejudger: you work for trolltech?12:05
Red_Herring!win32codecs12:06
ubotuwell, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/12:06
fatejudgerRed_Herring: lol, no12:06
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I wish12:06
Red_Herringwell...12:06
mcsteelshavin trouble finding mplayer in repos12:06
Red_Herringapt-get install mplayer-custom12:06
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fatejudgermcsteels: then get Kaffeine12:06
Red_Herringor apt-get install vlc12:06
fatejudgermcsteels: just make sure to get 0.7.112:06
fatejudgermcsteels: from backports12:06
Red_Herringwhich makes everything better12:06
blekoshello guys12:07
fatejudgerthis seveas guy is just all over this shady content12:07
dbgltfatejudger: ?12:07
blekoswould u mine helping me, I'm trying 2 switch from gnome to kde but having probs12:07
Red_Herringi like seveas12:07
Red_Herringblekos: what probs?12:07
mcsteelsapt-get install vlc have tried and couldnt find...... can some1 copy their repos  for breezy for me cos I think mine are screwed12:07
Red_Herring!repos12:08
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:08
blekoswell, 1) i cannot c my hd on desktop (thw win partition), and general see it at all...12:08
blekosand 2) i have no clue, as how to add a program at startup12:08
fatejudgerwhat is up with the Dapper repos right now?12:09
fatejudgerthey're completely down12:09
Red_Herringfatejudger: does qtdesigner come with a hello world program?12:09
Red_Herringi always find those useful for a new language12:09
fatejudgerRed_Herring: are you using KDE right now?12:09
Red_Herringyeah12:09
Red_Herringkubuntu12:09
fatejudgerRed_Herring: then get KDevelop12:09
fatejudgerRed_Herring: and look at the Hello World program in there12:09
Red_Herringi tried it12:09
fatejudgerRed_Herring: it's a built in template12:09
Red_Herringi couldnt find the qt part12:10
Red_Herringdid i forget to install something?12:10
fatejudgerit's under KDE apps12:10
Red_Herringoh12:10
blekosany ideas?12:10
blekosi also cannot install the updates...12:10
blekosif there are any12:10
Red_Herringblekos: go to /media/12:10
Red_Herringthats all12:10
Red_Herringthey arent considered removable media anymore12:11
Red_Herringso they are mounted in /media12:11
blekosi did ls, i c the hda12:12
Red_Herringand...?12:12
Red_Herringis that it?12:12
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blekosi c the followin 0 GB Disk (hda1)12:13
blekoshow can i access it12:13
fbrizholsa12:13
Red_Herringblekos: what do you mean, you can i access it?12:13
blekosi want to mounti it and c its contents12:14
Red_Herringjust go /media/ in konqeror12:14
Red_Herringif its not there.12:14
Red_Herringdo "sudo mount /dev/hda1"12:14
Red_Herringand then it will turn up there12:14
blekosits there!!12:15
slow-motionn812:15
blekoscan i somehow bring it to the desktop?12:15
Red_Herringwell../., you could make a shortcut12:15
dbglthey, my partitions are mounted on /media/hda1 and /media/hda2, and I can access them fine, but they don't show up under storage media in konqueror12:15
dbgltany idea why?12:15
Red_Herringno12:16
Red_Herringwell yeah12:16
Red_Herringbut no idea how to fix it12:16
Red_Herringkde decided storage media should be reserved for Removable Media, which hard drives arent12:16
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fatejudgerRed_Herring: yeah, it's kind of stupid12:17
Red_Herringwell...12:17
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I wished they had added an option to put HD partitions in there12:17
Red_Herringsort of12:17
Red_Herringyeah12:17
Red_Herringbut i kinda aggree with them12:17
fatejudgerRed_Herring: well where else are you supposed to get an easy to access overview of your partitions?12:18
Red_Herring/media12:18
fatejudgerI don't want all 3 of them cluttering up my desktop12:18
Red_Herring/media/12:18
fatejudgerLOL12:18
fatejudgerbefore I speak too quickly12:18
fatejudgerapparently enough people complained12:18
fatejudgerit's back on!12:18
Red_Herringwhat?12:19
Red_Herringin dapper?12:19
fatejudgeryeah, lol12:19
Red_Herringoh yeah12:19
Red_Herringin the forums there was a 10 page discussion about this12:19
Red_HerringNO ONE HAD THOUGHT TO LOOK IN /media12:19
fatejudgerwell the problem with going into /media12:19
Red_Herringout of like 50 people12:19
fatejudgeris first12:19
fatejudgerthere is no easy way to access it12:20
dbgltok. I installed kaffeine-xine. But now when I start Kaffeine, I don't have the option of switching to the xine engine! Can anyone help me with this too? :)12:20
fatejudgerand second12:20
blekoscould you tell me how to add a program to start up12:20
blekos?12:20
fatejudgeryou need root permissions to browse the drives12:20
Red_Herringi would uninstall kaffinene-gstreamer12:20
fatejudgerin system:/media you don't12:20
Red_Herringfatejudger: no, ya dont12:20
fatejudgernot only that, system:/media has clear icons show what things are12:20
Red_Herringyou need root access to write to /media12:20
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Red_Herringwhereas the drives mounted there have the same permissions12:21
fatejudgerRed_Herring: ok, true12:21
fatejudgerRed_Herring: but my first argument still applies12:21
Red_Herringbut i aggree12:21
fatejudgerRed_Herring: it isn't easy to acess12:21
Red_Herringits kinda annoying12:21
fatejudger*access12:21
fatejudgerRed_Herring: and, you can't tell what things are12:21
Red_Herringtrue12:21
Red_Herringbut im glad they changed that12:21
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I'm glad they changed it back12:21
Red_Herringits what makes kubuntu so nice12:21
Red_Herringwe can change things like this12:21
fatejudgerRed_Herring: yes, beautification and easy of use is very important12:22
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Red_Herringi made a suggestion to right click install .deb files12:22
Red_Herringand in breezy ya can12:22
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I like the Kubuntu project because it's so unconvetional12:22
Red_Herringmaybe it wasnt just me12:22
fatejudgerRed_Herring: they don't care what the accepted standard is12:22
Red_Herringwell... they do12:22
Red_Herringand thats good12:22
Red_Herringbut they are open to new ideas12:22
fatejudgerRed_Herring: not really12:22
fatejudgerRed_Herring: they put katapult back in12:23
Red_Herringwell... KDE wise, they are very different12:23
fatejudgerRed_Herring: after everyone dissed it12:23
fatejudgerRed_Herring: they did automounting12:23
fatejudgerRed_Herring: before KDE did12:23
Red_Herringbut linux base wise, they are very close to the standards12:23
Red_Herringwhich is a good thing12:23
Red_Herringbecause more programs work12:23
fatejudgerRed_Herring: they rejected the debian standards thing12:23
Red_Herringthe debian standards thing?12:23
blekoscould you tell me how to add a program to start up pls?12:23
fatejudgerI forget what it's called12:23
Red_Herringits the Linux Standard Base12:23
fatejudgeryeah12:23
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Red_Herringthey are very close to it12:24
fatejudgerit was the Debian project that was all up in arms about it12:24
Red_Herringnot perfect12:24
fatejudgerbecause we were changing around the kernel and the packaging system so much12:24
Red_Herringbut close enough so may programs w/ debian and other distros work under kubuntu12:24
fatejudgerthat Ubuntu packages didn't work on Debian12:24
Red_Herringsome dont12:24
Red_Herringbut many do12:24
fatejudgermost don't12:24
fatejudgerthat's why they were so pissed12:25
Red_Herringdepends how much they depend on debian base files12:25
Tm_Taye12:25
Red_Herringprograms that just use standard libraries can EASILY be installed under ubuntu12:25
Red_Herringthe debian base progs cannot at all though12:25
fatejudgerfinally, the Dapper repos are working again12:25
Tm_Tfatejudger: some mirrors are quite f*cked12:26
fatejudgerTm_T: seriously12:26
fatejudgerTm_T: I couldn't update for a couple of hours12:26
Red_Herringwha? wow, i really havent learned enough about c++12:26
fatejudgerTm_T: and that was from the main mirror12:26
Red_Herringdamn cp teacher12:26
Tm_Tfatejudger: aye, se. for example has been annoying last couple days12:26
Tm_Tor weeks12:26
fatejudgerTm_T: Dapper works suprisingly well though12:26
fatejudgerTm_T: I've had very few crashes12:26
Red_Herringsome have better luck than others12:27
fatejudgerTm_T: I would go so far as to say that it's about as stable as Breezy12:27
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I did an apt-get upgrade before I used it12:27
fatejudgerRed_Herring: so that may be why12:27
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Red_Herringthat makes sense12:27
fatejudgerRed_Herring: not to mention I'm using the new KDE 3.5.1 packages12:27
fatejudgerRed_Herring: which JUST came out12:28
gammawahoo i got flash working!12:28
Red_Herringand its stable?12:28
Red_Herringwow12:28
fatejudgergamma: lol12:28
gammafatejudger: my system was running at 16bit color, not 2412:28
gammachanging it fixed flash12:28
gamma:D12:28
Red_Herringi used 3.5 and it was pretty damn slow and buggy12:28
blekosis there a programm to add programs at start up?12:28
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I jumped on the 3.5 bandwagon at Beta 212:29
Red_Herringhmm12:29
fatejudgerRed_Herring: after that arts bug I had some doubts12:29
Red_Herringim still using 3.4.312:29
fatejudgerRed_Herring: but I fixed it, and I never looked back12:29
Red_Herringits nice12:29
gamma3.5.1 is kinda buggy here12:29
fatejudgerRed_Herring: 3.5 is a HUGE improvement12:29
Red_Herringi know12:29
Red_Herringi have it installed on my desktop12:29
blekoshow did u install it?12:29
Tm_Tfatejudger: yes, problem is, repositories can throw some stuff that need something what is provided couple days later, or buggy package and fix couple days later12:29
Red_Herringits a whole shitload of tiny improvements12:29
Red_Herringand a few HUGE ones12:29
Red_Herring!kde3.512:30
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".12:30
Tm_Tfatejudger: that makes it unstable and insecure for every user, you have to know a little bit about what's going on to keep it going12:30
blekosu mean to install the whole flight3?12:30
fatejudgerTm_T: one of the reasons I use Dapper is because they constantly update the packages though12:30
Tm_Tfatejudger: same here =)12:31
fatejudgerTm_T: it's super easy to keep everything updated12:31
Tm_Tfatejudger: but you prolly know the risks, most of basic users don't12:31
fatejudgerTm_T: not to mention all the cool features you get12:31
fatejudgerTm_T: yeah, I do12:31
Tm_Ttrue =)12:31
fatejudgerTm_T: I was thinking it would be a whole lot worse12:31
Tm_Toh noo12:31
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fatejudgerTm_T: wow12:32
gammaTm_T: any problems with adept?12:32
blekoscan u actually only install the  kde3.5 by itself?12:32
Tm_Tgamma: I don't use adept12:32
gammaoh..12:32
fatejudgerTm_T: well see the thing is, I just bought this new monitor and Windows was giving  me shit for it at its native rez12:32
fatejudgerTm_T: but Kubuntu worked great12:32
Tm_Tblekos: sure, whatever you mean by "only kde"12:32
fatejudgerTm_T: and it renders SO much faster than Windows XP did12:32
Tm_Thehe12:32
fatejudgerTm_T: I would have tested it on Breezy, but I had formatted12:33
blekosi mean by not upgrating to the flight312:33
fatejudgerTm_T: which is why I said, what the hell, I'll try out Dapper12:33
fatejudgerTm_T: and here I am :D12:33
fatejudgerTm_T: I am SO happy that they added the hard drive partitions back in "Storage Media"12:34
Tm_Tblekos: sure12:34
Tm_Tblekos: kubuntu.org12:34
fatejudgerthe number 1 reason for upgrading to Dapper has to be the super fast boot times12:34
blekoscool,12:34
fatejudgergreat for mobile users12:34
Tm_Thehe12:34
blekoscan this be done for gnome 3.14 (i think)12:34
blekos?12:34
Tm_Tblekos: doesn't matter12:34
blekos:))12:34
fatejudgerKDE looks fantastic at 1920x120012:35
Red_Herringwow12:35
Tm_Tfatejudger: my only laptop use little bit different system... try to guess12:35
Red_Herringthats a nice monitor12:35
Tm_Tfatejudger: sure does12:35
fatejudgerTm_T: you have to use Windows XP?12:35
Tm_Tnope12:35
fatejudgerTm_T: what kind of monitor do you have?12:35
Tm_Tin laptop or now?12:36
fatejudgerTm_T: you said it looked good at that rez12:36
Tm_T(now as in this pc)12:36
Red_Herringmine is an amazing celeron 1.5ghz toshiba w/ 512mb ram and a 20gb hard drive, with a 1024x768 screen12:36
fatejudgerTm_T: not many monitors display that high12:36
Red_Herringits decent12:36
fatejudgerRed_Herring: lol12:36
Red_Herringhey12:36
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I only have 256 MB RAM in this machine12:36
Tm_Tfatejudger: I know it looks good in high res12:36
Red_Herringit sure beats out a 4gb hard drive12:36
fatejudgerRed_Herring: I REALLY need to upgrade, it would definitely improve the performance12:36
Red_Herringyup12:36
Tm_Tfatejudger: not that I could use =)12:37
Red_Herringsure does12:37
fatejudgerTm_T: Windows just sucks in high rez12:37
fatejudgerTm_T: Vista will be better12:37
Tm_Ttrue12:37
Red_Herringfatejudger: dont get your hopes up12:37
fatejudgerTm_T: but I can use KDE right now :)12:37
fatejudgernot to mention it's free12:37
Red_Herringive uses the beta of vista12:37
Tm_Tfatejudger: but my laptop does have amazing 12" lcd screen12:37
fatejudgerRed_Herring: really?12:37
Red_Herringmore like pre-alpha12:37
Red_Herringbecause it really sucks12:37
Red_Herringits bulky12:37
Red_Herringtakes up way too much ram and cpu12:37
Tm_Thaha12:37
Red_Herringand it is buggy12:37
fatejudgerI'm a little bit wary about KDE 412:38
Red_Herringits gui is nice12:38
fatejudgerI hope they choose a really nice design12:38
Red_Herringbut not anything terribly special12:38
fatejudgerand make some big changes12:38
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Red_Herringoverall it sucks12:38
fatejudgerthe last screens I saw for vista were pretty nice12:38
Tm_Tfatejudger: what's amazing, my laptop does have 8MB ram :)12:38
Red_Herringand most importantly, m$ knows that, and wont release it until 200712:38
Tm_Tbeat that12:38
fatejudgerTm_T: 486?12:38
Red_HerringTm_T: i have TWICE THAT for video memory12:38
Tm_Taye :)12:38
fatejudgerTm_T: nice12:39
Tm_TRed_Herring: who cares, you don't run DOS 6.22 in it =)12:39
Red_Herringwell12:39
fatejudgerTm_T: what do you run?12:39
Red_Herringim trying to get my bro's laptop working12:39
fatejudgerTm_T: Win 3.1?12:39
Tm_Tfatejudger: DOS12:39
Red_Herringits a p3 400mhz with get this: 64mb of ram12:39
Red_Herringthe best i can get is dsl12:39
fatejudgerTm_T: can't you run the Linux command line?12:40
Tm_Tand yes, sometimes, only sometimes win 3.1112:40
Tm_Tfatejudger: I don't even try to install12:40
Red_HerringTm_T: how about dsl?12:40
fatejudgermy laptop is a 2.4 ghz celeron12:40
Tm_Tfatejudger: hard to get internet connection to it12:40
Red_Herringdamn you12:40
dbgltany idea why juk would not be saving its shortcuts in kubuntu? I change them all... I quit the program normally and re-open it... and it forgets all my changes12:40
fatejudgerlol12:40
Tm_TRed_Herring: doesn't have any network devices12:40
Red_Herringso?12:40
Red_Herringdsl is a livecd12:40
Red_HerringDamn Small Linux12:41
Red_Herringits a disto that is only 50mb12:41
fatejudgeryeah, you could do that12:41
Red_Herringit runs a minimal graphical manager12:41
Tm_Tyes, but! 486 -> where's my install floppies12:41
fatejudgerblackbox?12:41
Red_Herringand very small programs12:41
Red_Herringeither blackbox or something akin to it12:41
fatejudgerTm_T: hmm12:41
Tm_TRed_Herring: with 8M ram you don't run X12:41
fatejudgerTm_T: Minuet?12:41
Red_Herringthis is one hell of a small X12:41
Red_Herringif thats what you are asking about12:42
Tm_TRed_Herring: you can't make X much smaller than it is12:42
Tm_TRed_Herring: I know dsl very well12:42
Red_Herringok12:42
Red_Herringwell, save that laptop12:42
Tm_Tbut that pc could MAYBE barely run bash and some basic stuff in it =)12:42
blekosok i am proceeding to the update12:42
Red_Herringit will be an antique soon ;-)12:42
Tm_TRed_Herring: already is12:42
blekosi need 35min...12:42
blekosshould i restart then?12:43
Red_HerringTm_T: not as good as an atari12:43
Tm_TRed_Herring: true =)12:43
Red_Herringwhich i have12:43
Red_Herringand i still use it from time to time12:43
Tm_TRed_Herring: Memotech here12:43
Red_Herringits actually STILL very entertaining12:43
Red_HerringPONG!12:43
Tm_Thttp://www.mtxworld.dk/main.php12:44
Tm_Tpong is king12:44
Red_Herringi know there are great emulators for this kind of stuff12:44
Red_Herringbut i dont have any ROMs12:44
Red_Herringand dont know where to get them12:44
Red_Herringi have all of the games12:44
Red_Herringjust not the ROMs12:44
Tm_Thum, where's all game c-tapes12:45
Tm_Thttp://www.mtxworld.dk/pic3.php <- oh I spent days with this one...12:47
Tm_Thttp://www.mtxworld.dk/pic2.php <- should be still somewhere here12:48
gammaisn't that frogger? 0.o12:48
Tm_Tgamma: no, toado! (well, same game, different name) ;-P12:51
Red_Herringwow, i guess i dont know c++12:52
gammawhich one came out first? if someone tried doing something like that today there would be a lot of lawsuits12:52
Red_Herringstupid cp teacher12:52
Red_Herringnever talked about classes etc.12:52
gammai only know c, php and java12:52
gammano c++12:52
Tm_Tgamma: hey, thay look same, that's not enough for lawsuit12:52
Red_Herringif ya know c, dont ya know c++?12:52
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gammaisn't there a few changes?12:53
Red_Herringi know a tiny bit of php12:53
Red_Herringgamma: yeah12:53
gammai'm sure i could pick up c++ pretty easily12:53
Red_Herringbut not too much12:53
gammaoh.. i know mono too, but that's basically java12:53
gammaor c#12:53
gammasame syntax, different name..12:53
Red_Herringim learning java, but im already starting to hate it12:53
gammajava is very powerful and there are some things i like over c12:54
gammabut i also love c too12:54
Red_Herringi really need to learn more about c++12:55
Red_Herringwe never went into detail with classes12:55
gammaare you taking a class right now?12:55
Red_Herringyeah12:55
Red_Herringbut we "finished" c++12:55
Red_Herringnow we are using java12:55
Red_Herringthe teacher loves it12:55
Red_Herringbut hates c++12:55
gammawhat course is this? accelerated learning of all major programming languages?12:55
Red_Herringyup12:56
Red_Herringwe also learned html and js12:56
Red_Herringof coarse, all throughout html and js i just worked on c++12:56
gammai have to take that course12:56
Red_Herringbut i never got a formal training of many of the features of c++12:56
gammait's pretty simple though12:57
gammahold on i can get you a bunch of documentation from my old c class if you want12:57
Red_Herringwe used a 8 year old book on c++12:58
gammahaha nice12:58
gammahttp://www.cs.ucf.edu/~dmarino/ucf/cop3223/lectures/12:58
gammatake a look at that12:58
gammait's got pretty decent examples and stuff12:58
Red_Herringthanks12:58
Red_Herringwow, i hate kate12:59
Red_Herringno autoindenting12:59
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gammathere's gotta be an option/plugin for that12:59
gammai was looking earlier01:00
Red_Herringwell01:00
fatejudgeris there a way to stop Kontact from loading the KAlarm daemon01:00
fatejudger?01:00
Red_Herringi got the kate plugins01:00
Red_Herringand it wasnt in there01:00
gammai used gedit before, and kate seems better01:00
Red_Herringnow that i think about it. i never was taught about references and pointers01:01
Red_Herringi looked that up myself01:01
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Red_Herringvoid deposit (int* accnt_bal), void deposit (int &accnt_bal), any different?01:03
LordRaidenIs KDE 3.5.1 more buggy or less buggy?01:03
Red_Herringis the int* variable and int &variable different?01:04
Red_HerringLordRaiden: for breezy, yes01:04
Red_Herringmore buggy01:04
gammaLordRaiden: you can't click the konq plugin buttons in 3.5.101:04
Red_Herringgamma: you took c01:04
Red_Herringis int* c any different than int &c?01:04
Red_Herringwhen passing them01:05
gammai don't think  so01:05
gamma&c is a pointe right?01:05
gammapointer*01:05
Red_Herringyeah01:05
gammayea they should be the same01:05
Red_Herringok01:05
Red_Herringgood01:05
Red_Herringthanks01:05
gammaRed_Herring: found autotab01:06
LordRaidenhow about for dapper?01:06
Red_Herringautotab?01:06
Red_Herringoh01:06
Red_Herringwhere?01:06
gammaauto indent01:06
gammaconfigure/indentation01:07
gammaautomatic indentation-indent mode01:07
gammachange to like c style01:07
Red_Herringhuh01:07
Red_Herringthats easy01:07
gammanot sure what the different styles actually do though01:07
gammaok i got to get my lid switch working..01:08
Red_Herringwell01:08
Red_Herringi know with python its different01:08
gammayea..01:08
gammabrb01:08
Red_Herringi gotta eat01:08
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gammaok so hibernate works, the lid switch doesn't work..01:09
gammagrr01:10
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eXSiRwoww, kde 3.5 is perfect :)01:19
eXSiRwith kubuntu of course01:20
blekosid there a need for restart/ logout after installing kde3.5?01:22
gammadoes the acpid lidswitch code work for anyone?01:22
eXSiRi did but i think it is not needed01:22
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eXSiRonly a logout, maybe01:22
blekosthnx01:22
Red_Herring|foodmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm tacos01:25
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blekosdoes anyone here uses supercaraba?01:40
gammaif someone can help me with acpid i'd appreciate it :D01:40
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NuloYawriiiiiiiight01:49
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pollomixhow to do run 3ddesktop?01:59
fatejudgerwhy is gstreamer not used in Dapper?01:59
fatejudger0.10 that is02:00
fatejudgeronly .8 is used02:00
fatejudgerbut .10 is in the repos02:00
dbgltcan anyone suggest a nice font for my clock in kicker? :)02:00
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Tm_Tdbglt: I use Larabiefont02:07
dbglthrmm I don't have that02:08
dbgltI'm using Georgia at the moment02:08
dbgltit is ok02:08
Tm_Thttp://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_103.png02:08
dbgltbut a bit big on some numbers02:08
Tm_Tmy whole desktop02:08
dbgltTm_T: you have proper transparency? :)02:08
Tm_Tnah02:08
dbgltor fake one02:08
Tm_TI would use real transparency if it wasn't flickering a bit02:09
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angasule!dapper02:15
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.02:15
angasuleI can't wait, ummh02:18
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bogaanyone has video controls on Google's Video Store? I don't have them with Konqueror!02:29
nikita!wmv02:29
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats02:29
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_rootsimply question i'm making dist-upgrade and i ant to exclude open office from donloading and upgrading, how to do that?02:40
_rootis somebody here?02:41
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_rootshit02:43
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Tm_T_root: nobody's her but you should _not_ irc as root02:48
incubiibut its more fun Tm_T02:48
Tm_Tok02:48
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_root:P02:49
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blekosdoes anyboy know how to map the win key?02:50
Aji-Dahakablekos: like make something a win key or vice versa?02:51
FakeSnakedoes anybode know hot to exclude something from dist-upgrade?02:51
blekosi want the win-key whenpress to go the kMenu...02:51
Aji-Dahakablekos: ah, that should be default if you chose the right keyboard layout02:52
Aji-Dahaka(shortcut scheme)02:52
blekoshmm, i'm running on a vaio...02:52
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blekosthe funny think is that gnome has identified it correctly02:52
blekos...02:52
Aji-Dahakago to the shortcut scheme tab02:53
blekosi choose the same keyboard here but not lack...02:53
Aji-Dahakaand choose "kde default for 4 modifier keys"02:53
Marsik^_Hi I have huge problem with my kubuntu. I installed it few times, but everytime i do it after loading system, when it schould show login screen, my srceen goes blank -turns off and i cant do anything with it. Please help!02:53
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blekosit is chosen...02:54
dark_suicblekos, you should try accesibility on kcontrol02:54
dark_suicthere you should have the shortcuts02:54
dark_suiclook for open k-menu or something like that02:54
blekossorry, it wasnt chosen02:54
dark_suicand assign it to the win-key02:54
Marsik^_Can anybody help me?02:54
Aji-Dahakablekos: now that it is it should be fine02:55
Aji-Dahakadark_suic: don't think one can actually do that02:55
dark_suicwhy?02:55
Aji-Dahakadark_suic: windows key is a modifier so it would have to be pressed along with something to set as a shortcut02:55
Aji-Dahakadark_suic: try and see :)02:55
blekosi've chosen 4modifiers...02:55
dark_suici see, i've just tried :P02:56
Aji-Dahakablekos: should work, then02:56
Aji-Dahakablekos: if not, maybe try windows scheme with win key, but I thought both worked02:56
blekosit hsa for pop up menu win+menu02:57
blekosit will not accept having only the win key,02:57
Aji-Dahaka(wish keyboard specs would have been written with something so that the computer can know what type of keyboard is attached)02:57
blekosi'll try win schema02:57
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blekosno luck...02:58
Aji-Dahakahuh, just tried it here with my right-alt key that's mapped as a win key and it's not working :(02:59
Aji-Dahakawonder why that is02:59
blekos:(02:59
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blekosbtw, perhaps u can tell how i can add a program at startup, i want ro run desklet03:00
blekosskaramba doesnt 2 work ok :(03:00
Aji-Dahakaadd it to your ~/.kde/Autostart directory?03:01
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Marsik^_E6E6E603:01
Aji-Dahakasomething definitely wrong with the handling of keys in kubuntu :(03:02
Aji-Dahakakeycode 113 (keysym 0xffec, Super_R)03:02
Aji-Dahakathat should not be showing me ALT03:02
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blekosyes.... very wrong...03:03
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blekos:)03:05
Aji-DahakaI'll file the kmail one I found03:06
blekosok, i need 2 b going, its 04:00 here !!! and i'm x-)03:06
Aji-Dahakalata03:06
blekosi'll b back though03:06
blekosthnx 4 the help Aji03:07
blekosl8r03:07
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nikita!$PATH03:14
ubotunikita: What?03:14
nikitahi. how can i change the $PATH variable?03:15
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fit4lfehas anyone used remote desktop with on kde ?03:22
fit4lfeand is there a way to use remote desktop for port 8003:22
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Key`ss.a03:27
Key`solm bu ne voice bile yok03:27
Key`seXSiR03:27
Key`s03:27
Key`s:)03:27
eidolonhey guys, i haven't been able to apt-get update in over a day.  i'm getting 404 errors from the ubuntu archives.  anyone know what'sup?03:31
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swimhi folks, trying to figure out how to get k3b to run with rootprivileges... ive got k3bsetup running but I dont see what to do next... help?03:41
Red_Herringsorry, i have no clue03:45
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nikita!install03:52
ubotuI guess install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation03:52
Red_Herring!xubunu03:52
ubotuI don't know, Red_Herring03:52
Red_Herring!xubuntu03:52
ubotuwell, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu03:52
nikita!./configure03:52
ubotunikita: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:52
nikita!make03:52
ubotuI haven't a clue, nikita03:53
Red_Herringyou need to know about those things?03:53
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nikitaRed_Herring: mmm, i try to install a km player and get an error on ./configure thing03:53
Red_Herringkm player?03:53
Red_Herringi know i should just help you, but why use km player?03:54
Red_Herringthere are plenty of media players that come w/ kubuntu, why compile ANOTHER one03:54
nikitaRed_Herring: well, u know.... it's like my 2nd day on linux, therefore: 1) i have no clue which program to use to play video.  2) i wanna try to install a program 3) that is the one recommended in the only book i have03:55
nikita=)03:55
Red_Herringok03:55
Red_Herringwell03:55
Red_Herringi suggest03:55
Red_Herring!vlc03:55
uboturumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)03:55
Red_Herringor03:55
Red_Herring!mplayer03:55
uboturumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106103:55
Red_Herringbut personally i would go with vlc03:55
Red_Herringwait, you have a book on this stuff?03:56
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nikitaRed_Herring: i have a moving to linux book, which is not really useful but that's something03:57
Red_Herringoh03:57
Red_Herringi never read books on those kinds of things03:57
Red_Herringbut whatever floats your boat03:57
Red_Herringheres the thing:03:57
Red_Herringdebian, the os ubuntu/kubunu is based off of uses apt-get, and .deb files to install packages03:57
Red_Herringso compiling it, what you are trying to do, destroys the entire purpose of apt and .deb03:58
Red_Herringnow it is useful in certain cases03:58
nikitaRed_Herring: i know =)))))))))) but what if i wanna a ran dom program?03:58
nikitarandom*03:58
Red_Herringthats the only time you use it03:59
Red_Herringif it IS NOT IN ANY REPO03:59
Red_Herring!repos03:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:59
Red_Herringuse those, and you can have almost any prog03:59
Red_Herringespecially my favorite, vlc03:59
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nikitaRed_Herring: i got it =)) is it the same for all linux systems?03:59
Red_Herringnot at all04:00
Red_Herringred hat/suse/madriva use .rpm04:00
Red_Herringwhich is a lot like .deb04:00
Red_Herringbut in very nerdy ways, its significantly different04:00
Red_Herringother distros compile, like gentoo, w/ emerge, and others use old skool compiling, like what you are trying to do04:01
nikitaRed_Herrings: but all linuxes have this idea of packages? i remeber using mandrake and i think there was the same stuff04:01
Red_Herringpeople here believe apt is the most advanced out of all of them, but its opinon mostly04:01
nikitaohhhhhhh04:01
Red_Herringwell...04:01
Red_Herringsome distros dont use packages04:01
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Red_Herringbut those are the really hard-core *nix systems04:02
Red_Herringlike linux from scratch04:02
nikitaRed_Herring: oh, i see04:02
Red_Herringso...04:02
Red_Herringabout km player04:02
Red_Herringive used it04:02
Tm_Tlfs is not distro imho04:02
Tm_Tkmplayer is good04:02
Red_Herringtrue04:02
Red_Herringbut its the idea of it04:03
Tm_Taye04:03
Red_HerringTm_T: is it in the repos?04:03
Tm_TRed_Herring: no idea, I compile newest from svn every day04:03
Red_Herringno04:03
Red_Herringi just checked04:03
Red_Herringif it is, its not named kmplayer04:03
Tm_Tso it's not04:03
nikitaRed_Herring: i choose whatever u advise me, cuz i'm trying to play a WMA file for like 2 hours already =))))))04:03
Red_HerringTm_T: ya just think they should go w/ vlc or mplayer?04:03
Red_HerringVLC!04:04
Red_Herringit can play them fine04:04
Tm_Tvlc work, mplayer is ok04:04
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Red_Herring!seveas04:04
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:04
Red_Herring!win32codecs04:04
uboturumour has it, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/04:04
Red_Herringyou need those if ya wanna play WMV files w/ mplayer04:04
Red_Herringnot vlc though04:04
saulgoodanybody got answers for questions concerning Live CD boot on OSX Tiger?04:04
Red_Herringummm04:04
Red_Herringas in a vm?04:05
Red_Herringor on a MAC04:05
saulgoodmac04:05
Red_Herringoh04:05
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saulgoodi got the powerpc build04:05
Red_Herringi herd it has MAJOR problems04:05
saulgoodyes i can confirm haha04:05
Red_Herring!flight3ppc04:05
ubotuRed_Herring: Some people juggle geese04:05
saulgoodit wont boot, it freezes just before the gui shows up04:06
Red_Herringyup04:06
Red_Herringthats what has been reported04:06
saulgoodFirefly04:06
Red_Herringwhat?04:06
Red_Herring!firefly04:06
nikitaRed_Herring: yeah, i've installed the codecs. okey i will go and do that finally, thatnks a lot =804:06
ubotuRed_Herring: No idea04:06
saulgood"some people juggle geese" is a quote off of firefly04:06
Red_Herringnikita: tell me if ya get it working04:06
Red_Herringi wanna know which one you went with04:06
Red_Herringsaulgood: never saw it, but i did see serenety04:07
saulgoodSerenity/Firefly - the greatest scifi of all times04:07
Red_Herringeh04:07
saulgood=P04:07
Red_Herringim not a huge scifi fan04:07
Red_Herring!edubuntu04:07
ubotuedubuntu is, like, totally, an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu04:07
Red_Herringhmmm04:07
Red_Herringwonder if i can put ^ on comps at my school...04:07
nikitaRed_Herring: sure i will04:08
saulgoodok well thanks  for the help. I guess im gonna have to find another build thats bootable on Tiger. Any suggestions?04:08
Red_Herringof ubuntu?04:08
Red_Herringor another distro?04:08
saulgoodany linux live04:08
Red_Herringknoppix04:08
Red_Herringslax04:08
Red_Herringor use the livecd of the breezy version04:09
Red_Herringbecause the dapper one is still in development04:09
saulgoodi have breezy04:09
saulgoodno go04:09
Red_Herringreally?04:09
Red_Herringthats news04:09
Red_Herringmac doesnt like it?04:09
saulgoodcorrect04:10
Red_Herringhmmm04:10
Red_Herringthats interesting04:10
Red_Herringi was not aware of that04:10
saulgoodi havent tried booting to console, but i know it freezes before the gui can even initialize04:10
Red_Herringthats very odd04:10
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Red_Herringhope you dont think ubuntu is always like that04:11
saulgoodnot heard of it happening?04:11
Red_Herringnope04:11
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saulgoodno no I understand live cds are much more unstable for many logical reasons04:11
Red_Herringbut then again i havent used the macs alot04:11
saulgoodwe use Linux at work04:11
Red_Herringoh04:11
saulgoodso Im wanting to get a distro for home to get better aquianted with04:11
Red_Herringwell i suggest knoppix04:11
Red_Herring!knoppix04:11
saulgoodjust started though so I know little to nothing about 8nix04:11
ubotuRed_Herring: Syntax error in line 104:11
saulgood*nix04:12
saulgoodk04:12
Red_Herringubotu: why cant you accept other distros?04:12
ubotuRed_Herring: parse error: dunno what you're talking about04:12
Red_Herringstupid ubotu04:12
lagaubotu: yo momma is an eggdrop in ircnet04:13
ubotulaga: okay04:13
lagaubotu: yo momma04:13
ubotuyo momma is, like, an eggdrop in ircnet04:13
lagaoh my god04:13
Red_Herringwha? it answered?04:13
laga:/04:14
saulgoodbtw knoppix doesnt make a powerpc distro04:14
Red_Herringubotu: yo momma is so fat, she ways a lot04:14
ubotu...but yo momma is already something else...04:14
lagai feel bad. kind of like teaching bad words to little children04:14
Red_HerringNICE04:14
Red_Herringsaulgood: slax?04:14
saulgoodslax hmm havent heard of it, looking into it04:14
Red_Herringsaulgood: damn small linux?04:14
Red_Herringubotu: yo momma doesnt exist04:15
ubotuRed_Herring: My cat's name is Mittens!04:15
saulgoodlol nope04:15
Red_Herringgood comeback04:15
saulgoodim gonna look at fedora 404:15
Red_Herringnoooooooooooooooo04:15
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saulgoodya they dont have a live it seems04:16
Red_Herringthat too04:16
saulgooddamn small linux is a distro?04:16
Red_Herringi think this and mepis are the only distros to have livecds too04:16
Red_Herringsaulgood: yup, its a 50mb livecd04:16
=== shawkins hates lots of distros
=== Red_Herring likes dsl
=== shawkins is also just picking out various things to talk about....
Red_Herringi hate fc404:17
=== shawkins has read maybe.. 5 lines of this whole conversation
Red_Herringi tried installing vlc on it...04:17
Red_Herringwow04:17
saulgoodgentoo?04:17
Red_Herringno livecd04:17
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Red_Herringbut its nice04:17
shawkinsgentoo...... likes speed to much04:17
nikitaRed_Herring: i've installed the vlc and i have codecs installed, i have the sound but not the video =(04:17
Red_Herringif ya want vlc on it, prepare to download 30 or so RPMs04:18
Red_Herringnikita: is it a protected WMV?04:18
Red_Herring!win32codecs04:18
ubotusomebody said win32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/04:18
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nikitaRed_Herring: protected?04:19
=== Red_Herring thinks he is up to something
Red_Herringnikita: what WMV is this?04:19
Red_Herringa home movie you made?04:19
saulgoodsuse?04:19
Red_Herringor somethign you paid for04:19
nikitaRed_Herring: it's a WMA, a tv rip, a small one04:19
Red_Herringhmm04:19
Red_Herringtv rip04:19
Red_Herringdid ya install win32codecs?04:19
Red_Herringyou shouldnt need to04:19
Red_Herringbut sometimes...04:20
nikitaRed_Herring: i did04:20
Red_Herringdid ya try mplayer?04:20
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nikitaRed_Herring: nope04:21
Red_Herringtry that04:21
nikitaRed_Herring: ok =)04:21
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Tallia1Kubuntui have a problem with my laptop04:27
Tallia1Kubuntuparticularly with klaptop04:28
Red_Herringreally?04:28
Red_Herringlike what04:28
Tallia1Kubuntuit seems it can't switch anymore04:28
Tallia1Kubuntuthe profile04:28
Red_Herringhmm04:28
Red_Herringpower profiles?04:28
Tallia1Kubuntuit's always in userspace, and when i need hi performance (vmware) i can't switch04:28
Tallia1Kubuntuyes04:28
Tallia1Kubuntuperformance profiles04:28
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Red_Herringsorry04:29
Red_Herringi never used those04:29
Red_Herringdid you tinker with it?04:29
Tallia1Kubuntu??04:29
Tallia1Kubuntutinker?04:29
Red_Herringas in mess with the settings04:29
Tallia1Kubuntuno04:29
Tallia1Kubuntui didn't touch it for looooooong time04:30
Red_Herringwell... thats very odd04:30
Tallia1Kubuntui konw04:30
Red_Herringdid you do ANYTHING out of the ordenary04:30
Red_Herringinstall anything...04:30
Tallia1Kubuntuthe only thing that i did was to update KDE to 1.504:30
Tallia1Kubuntu3.504:30
Red_Herringwell thats it04:30
Red_Herringthats a VERY big thing04:30
Red_Herringklaptop was also upgraded04:30
Red_Herringbut it was backported to breezy04:31
Red_Herringso some features dont work04:31
Red_Herringunfortunatly one of them may be yours04:31
Tallia1Kubuntui see04:31
nikitaRed_Herring: yay, it works. though it's like "jumping" (the video&sound)04:31
Tallia1Kubuntumaybe i'll try to reinstall klaptop04:31
Red_Herringyou can try04:31
Red_Herringnikita: i will take note of that04:31
Tallia1Kubuntuit happened a weird thing with noatun too04:31
Red_Herringhmm04:32
Tallia1Kubuntuit can't reproduce anything by now04:32
Tallia1Kubuntubut mplayer can04:32
Red_Herringare those part of the kde3.5 repo?04:32
Red_Herringbecause if they arent04:32
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a GUI for mplayer for kde?04:32
Red_Herringthen thats why04:32
Red_HerringTallia1Kubuntu: i think you can skin it04:32
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nikitaRed_Herring: thanks a lot04:33
Tallia1KubuntuKPlayer - MPlayer based media player for KDE04:33
Red_Herringnikita: no problem04:33
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bouncingpython-profiler seems missing on kubuntu...04:36
Tallia1Kubuntucompile it04:36
bouncingboooo04:37
Red_Herring!python-profiler04:37
ubotuRed_Herring: Wish i knew04:37
Red_Herringsorry, ubotu cant find it04:37
Tallia1Kubuntu!kplayer04:38
ubotuTallia1Kubuntu: parse error: dunno what you're talking about04:38
bouncingPackage python2.4-profiler is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:38
bouncingThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:38
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Red_Herring!kmplayer04:38
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ubotuRed_Herring: Syntax error in line 104:38
Red_Herringbouncing: use aptitude04:38
Red_Herringit gets around those04:38
nbd1helo!04:39
nbd1i have a question04:39
Red_Herringok04:39
nbd1i can do ?04:39
Red_Herring?04:40
nbd1i install apache204:40
nbd1apt-get install apache204:40
Red_Herringok04:40
bouncingRed_Herring: I can't find python-profiler in aptitude04:40
nbd1and04:40
Red_Herringbouncing: aptitude install python-profiler04:40
nbd1iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT04:40
nbd1but04:40
Red_Herringit gets around dependencies04:40
nbd1the page 127.0.0.104:41
nbd1time out .04:41
Red_Herringhmm04:41
bouncingRed_Herring: I get "No candidate version found for python-profiler"04:41
Red_Herringbouncing: well... im out of suggestions04:41
nbd1iptables --list04:42
nbd1ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:www04:42
nbd1why i have a time out ?04:42
Red_Herringnbd1: you test it from outside your network?04:43
nbd1no04:43
nbd1inside04:43
Red_Herringlike your computer's internal ip address?04:43
nbd1the same machine04:43
Red_Herringits not that big of a deal if its internal ip times out... right?04:43
nbd1201.254.17.22304:43
nbd1this is my ip04:44
nbd1but04:44
nbd1if a do an netstat04:44
nbd1port 80 is not there04:44
Red_Herringok... i dont know where the problem lies04:45
Red_Herringbut i can get to your site fine from here04:45
nbd1you can see the apache home page ?04:45
Red_Herringso unless you think it is some sort of securety risk...04:45
Red_Herringnbd1: not the home page04:45
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Red_Herringbut i can get to the page04:45
Red_Herringwhere it says whats in teh file04:46
Red_Herringwhich i presum to be /var/www04:46
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nbd1yep04:46
Red_Herringwell... try going there yourself04:47
Red_Herringare you an expert at this?04:47
Red_Herringbecause i got a simple debian server running04:47
Red_Herringbut thats it04:47
nbd1im not an expert04:47
nbd1i am newbie in linux04:47
Red_Herringwell04:48
Red_Herringit seems to work04:48
Red_Herringgo there yourself04:48
Red_Herring201.254.17.22304:48
nbd1 :(04:49
Red_Herringwhat?04:50
Red_Herringit works, doesnt it?04:50
nbd1time out04:50
nbd1the problem is04:51
nbd1that i can see de page04:51
nbd1but you can04:51
nbd1you can see04:51
nbd1"hola mundo"04:51
Red_Herringwhat?04:52
nbd1you can se an apache directory  yes?04:52
Red_Herringno, what i see is a foldr labled "apache2-defaults" and one labled "pepe"04:52
nbd1but i cant04:52
nbd1yes04:52
nbd1i cant see that04:52
Red_Herringhmm04:52
Red_Herringwhat browser are you using?04:52
nbd1firefox 1.504:53
Red_Herringand what language is it?04:53
nbd1spanish04:53
nbd1latin04:53
Red_Herringhmm04:53
Red_Herringthat may be the cause04:53
Red_Herringim not sure how apache handles those04:53
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Red_Herringdo you know about index.html and stuff?04:54
nbd1but konqueror have the same problem04:54
nbd1what ?04:54
Red_Herringnbd1: do you have an index.html04:54
Red_Herringapache's default webpage is index.html04:54
nbd1i have de default instalation04:55
Red_Herringwhen you go to 201.254.17.223, it sends index.html, unless it sint there04:55
Red_Herringyou need to make it04:55
nbd1im only make the "pepe" diretory04:55
Red_Herringjust copy index.html from the pepe directory to the /var/www directory04:55
nbd1ok04:55
nbd1waitme04:55
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nbd1ok04:57
nbd1the index.html y now in /var/www04:57
Red_Herringnice04:57
Red_Herringit now works04:57
Red_Herringgo to 201.254.17.223, and you should see hola mundo04:58
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fatejudgerwhat is that linux sound irc channel?04:58
fatejudgerI can't get my audigy 2 nx to work in Linux04:58
Red_Herring#alsa?04:59
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Red_Herringor #oss04:59
Red_Herringtry those04:59
nbd1i cant see :(04:59
Red_Herringreally?04:59
Red_Herringthats odd04:59
nbd1i cant.. i dont now04:59
Red_Herringtry changing your identifyer for your web browser05:00
Red_Herringbecaue i can see it fine05:00
fatejudgerdo I have to restart or something?05:00
Red_Herringnah05:00
Red_Herringit shouldnt be that hard05:00
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nbd1sory but05:04
nbd1how i change mi idenfiyer in firefox ?05:04
_gtakitocan someone help me05:04
Red_Herringuse konqueror05:04
Red_Herringits easy to change it there05:04
Red_Herring_gtakito: what?05:05
_gtakitoI have a 630m notebook, and according to wiki it needs 915resolution for display fix05:05
_gtakitobut i am having trouble making it work right05:05
Red_Herringthe resolution?05:05
_gtakitoyea, this notebook needs 1280x80005:05
Red_Herringhmm05:05
_gtakitobut it wont go that resolution05:05
Red_Herringwell05:05
Red_Herringit will05:05
_gtakitohow?05:05
Red_Herringits just tought to configure05:05
_gtakitokk help me out05:06
Red_Herringok05:06
Red_Herringfirst05:06
Red_Herringget into the terminal05:06
Red_Herringkonsole, etc.05:06
_gtakitoin05:06
Red_Herringsudo -s05:06
Red_Herringcd /etc/X1105:06
Red_Herringcp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak05:06
_gtakitok im in05:06
Red_Herringgot those?05:07
_gtakitoyes05:07
_gtakitonow what05:07
Red_Herringok, now kate/yourfavorite editor xorg.conf05:07
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Red_Herringthen go down to teh section where it lists screen resolutions05:07
Red_Herringits near the bottom05:08
_gtakitok05:08
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Red_Herringnow add a section to the resolution section that is your resolution05:08
_gtakitoseems to list them all, but they arent options in my display settings05:08
Red_Herringhold on05:08
_gtakitothey have 1280x800 there05:09
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_gtakitoalready05:09
_gtakitobut max display in options is 1024x76805:09
Red_Herringhmm05:10
Red_Herringthats odd05:10
nbd1Red_Herring: i change my identify , but it not work05:10
_gtakitohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/DellInspiron630m?highlight=%28630m%2905:10
Red_Herringnbd1: what do you see?05:10
_gtakitoread that05:10
nbd1time out05:10
_gtakitosays to use 915resolution, which is supposed to be easy05:10
Red_Herring!915resolution05:11
ubotuRed_Herring: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:11
_gtakitobut when I use it, it makes my screen pull to the left, and all black space on the right05:11
_gtakitosquare, not wide at all05:11
Red_Herringwhere is this 915resolution?05:11
Red_Herringis it a program?05:11
Red_Herringa driver?05:12
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_gtakitohttp://www.geocities.com/stomljen/05:12
_gtakitodunno, but it changes something in RAM05:12
_gtakitoprogram i guess05:12
_gtakitocheck it out and see if you can understand05:12
nbd1Red_Herring:05:13
Red_HerringOption "ForceBIOS" "1024x768=1200x800"05:13
nbd1i need to configure iptables ?05:13
Red_Herringyou try that?05:13
Red_Herringnbd1: why would you need that?05:13
_gtakitoyes, it did absolutley nothing05:13
_gtakitoeven after restart05:13
_gtakitoand I did type it right05:14
Red_Herringis the driver installed correctly?05:14
nbd1because i cant see the page05:14
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Red_Herringi think the iptables may be the problem05:15
nbd1this is mi iptables --list05:16
nbd1ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:www05:16
nbd1TCPMSS     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp flags:SYN,RST/SYN tcpmss match 1400:1536 TCPMSS clamp to PMTU05:16
nbd1only this05:16
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nbd1need another line 05:17
Red_Herringnot sure at all05:17
Red_Herringi know just the basics on this05:17
Red_Herringtry and ask someone else05:17
Red_Herringsorry05:17
Red_Herringthis one is tough05:18
nbd1:(05:18
nbd1ok05:18
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Red_Herringwhats the terminal command to make a new user?05:22
_grigoryhi all05:22
Red_Herringhi05:22
_grigorydid any one installed wxPython?05:22
_grigoryinstall*05:22
Red_Herringnah05:22
_gtakitosorry Red_Herring05:22
_gtakitogot disconnected05:22
_gtakitodid you figure anything out from that page05:23
_gtakitomy screen just refuses to go wide05:23
Red_Herringwell...05:23
Red_Herringare you SURE you have the driver installed?05:23
_grigoryoh... get tired of kTorrent no wanting to seed, downloaded bittornado, it requires Python and wxPython installed... i managed to install Python, wxWidgets, but having problems with the last one05:23
_gtakitowhat driver?05:23
Red_Herringdoesnt 915resolution require a driver?05:24
_gtakitoxorg uses i81505:24
_gtakitoIs that the right driver05:25
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_gtakitohow do i see if theres an update05:25
Red_Herringhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/i915Driver05:25
Red_Herringdid ya see that?05:25
_gtakitohm05:25
_gtakitoyea i did05:25
Red_Herringso, what happens when you do 915resolution -l?05:26
_gtakitolists all modes05:27
_gtakitobut those modes arent available to use in configure options05:27
Red_Herringdid you try the command exactally?05:27
_gtakitoyes05:27
Red_Herringwell thats the thing05:27
Red_Herringim assuming you changed the numbers, right?05:28
_gtakitoyes05:28
_gtakitobut it changes it wrong05:28
_gtakitomakes it go to the left, right side has buncha black space05:29
Red_Herringreally?05:29
Red_Herringis your laptop supported by 915resolution?05:29
_gtakitoyes05:29
Red_Herringhmm05:29
_gtakitolook up 630m in the wiki05:29
_gtakitomy notebook is there, tested and works05:29
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Red_Herringthats a bizzare one05:31
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Red_Herringim not sure what is going on05:31
Red_Herringi would see what people with your laptop did05:32
_gtakitoseeems like ive tried everything05:32
_gtakitohm wait a minute, i have one more idea05:32
_gtakitodo you know how do make the 915 resolution command happen before X starts?05:32
_gtakitoautomatically on login05:33
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_gtakitowhere do I do with it, im a linux newb05:33
Red_Herringyou need to make it run at startup05:33
_gtakitowhat file do I edit05:33
Red_Herringummm05:33
Red_Herringsorry, actually right here i need some help too05:34
Red_Herringi dont know where you put that stuff05:34
_gtakitohmmm05:34
dbgltuse /etc/init.d/blah05:34
_gtakitoah05:35
dbglt_gtakito: when do you want to do it?05:35
dbglt_gtakito: only when X comes up? Or all times?05:35
_gtakitofiles in init.d start at startup?05:35
dbglt_gtakito: those are what are known as the boot scripts. Not all of them do, have to configure it05:36
dbglt_gtakito: you can add it to .xinitrc or other types files. Possibly kdmrc if you want it to start before X does05:36
dbglt_gtakito: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/05:37
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dbgltif you need to script that... just a simple05:38
dbglt#!/bin/bash05:38
dbglt(whatever you need to run)05:38
_gtakitoI want it to happen when X starts05:38
_gtakitoright before it does05:38
_gtakitoor at boot before it does05:38
_gtakitoanytime before is ok05:38
_gtakitoso what exactly do I do05:38
dbgltnot closing konversation is usually a start!05:39
dbglt:005:39
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Red_Herringnice job05:39
_gtakitosorry guys05:39
dbglt_gtakito: you make a script05:39
Red_Herringsorry05:39
_gtakitoI didnt get any of that05:39
_gtakitok what script05:39
dbglt_gtakito: then you follow the instructions I sent you05:39
_gtakitoI didnt get any05:39
dbglt_gtakito: #!/bin/bash on the first line, then whatever else needs to be done05:39
dbglthttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/05:39
dbglt_gtakito: what command do you have to run?05:40
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_gtakitosudo 915resolution 34 1280 800 3205:40
_gtakitois what I want to run05:41
dbgltwell you don't need sudo05:41
_gtakitok05:41
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dbgltjust do the #!/bin/bash, then on the next line that05:41
dbgltsave it05:41
dbgltchmod +x it05:41
dbgltthen follow directions on that web link05:41
dbgltit is pretty simple05:41
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_gtakitok thanks05:42
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ranceI need a little nudge in the right direction, Ive installed mplayer and downloaded a wmv file, when I play it, mplayer crashes after the first half second or so of sound, with an error about video decoding, whats the missing piece please05:44
Red_Herringyeha05:45
Red_Herring!win32codecs05:45
uboturumour has it, win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/05:45
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saulgoodok06:06
saulgoodi'm back06:06
saulgoodneed help06:06
saulgoodfor OS X06:06
saulgoodanybody awake06:06
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Dementedhello06:07
saulgoodhowdy06:07
saulgoodare you a kubuntu expert?06:08
Dementedhell no06:08
Dementedim installing my first version of linux, which is kubuntu06:08
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saulgoodhaha im trying to run a live cd on mac...this thing is crapping on me06:08
Tm_TKubuntu <306:08
Tm_Tsaulgood: mac & livecd is known to have some trouble sometimes06:09
Tm_Tat least I've heard lots06:09
Dementedwell, im trying to install it, but when i boot up, all it is is like d0s, and i dont know now how to load the desktop :-/ i know how n00b that sounds tooo06:09
Red_Herringstartx06:09
Dementedi did that06:09
saulgoodwould you be able to tell me anything if I gave you some lines of stuff it spit at me before freezing up?06:09
Dementedgot an error06:09
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Dementedmust be super user...06:09
Dementedand i loged in with my username and password06:09
Red_Herringhmm06:10
Red_Herringthats odd06:10
Dementedwell im reinstalling right nwo06:10
Red_Herringok06:10
Dementedgimme like 10 minutes and ill try again06:10
Red_Herringok06:11
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saulgoodI have an iMac g5, newest powerpc processor before they went Intel and I tried both "live" methods on "boot:"....they both make the fan spin loudly in the back and give me the following...."To continue booting type mac-boot and hit enter, to shut down type shutdown and hit enter. Reducing system power. Release keys to continue!" and it goes no where06:11
Dementedfucking partition load up froze...06:12
Dementedyou dont have to install ubuntu first do you? ....06:13
saulgoodand since the G5 is 64 bit and I found out that there was a 64 bit partition load up i chose that one, and both it and the rescue 64 makes the fan run load, and gives me the following "MM Init Done. CF000012. Setup Arch" and stops06:13
Red_Herringno06:13
Dementedok good06:13
saulgoodso im clueless06:13
Red_Herringsaulgood: first off, ppc support for livecd is bad to begin with06:14
Red_Herringsecond, 64 bit ppc is even less supported06:14
saulgoodlol06:14
saulgoodnot what i wanted to hear lol....but the partition is on there06:14
saulgoodat what point could I hit ctrl x to go to console mode only06:15
Red_Herringsorry06:15
Red_Herringif ya wanna try installing a distro06:15
Dementedjesus, the partitioner freeze every time it gets to 61 percent when its writing the partitions06:15
Red_HerringNOT a livecd06:15
Red_Herringthere is support for it out there06:15
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Red_HerringDemented: thats called a bad hard drive06:16
saulgoodRed, thanks but I looked and none but kub exist06:16
saulgoodwell live i mean06:16
Red_Herringsaulgood: not kubuntu06:16
Dementedwell the partitionar went through the first time i tried...06:17
Paradossohi everybody06:17
saulgoodhowdy06:17
ParadossoI've got a large video file here which I'd like to have divided in two06:17
Red_Herringhi06:17
Paradossoany known utility for that?06:17
Paradossoit's in .mp4 format06:17
Red_Herringvideo you say...06:17
Red_Herringhmmm06:17
Dementedhey red06:17
Red_Herring!video editing06:18
ubotuRed_Herring: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:18
Dementedwhen i choose how to partition my hard drive, do i choose the first one "erase all" or the "erase all and use LVM"06:18
Red_HerringDemented: dont use lvm, unless the normal one doenst work06:18
Paradosso!avichop06:18
ubotuParadosso: My cat's name is Mittens!06:18
Dementedok, j/w what it was06:18
Red_Herring!avichop06:19
ubotuRed_Herring: Do they come in packets of five?06:19
Red_Herringhes right!06:19
Red_Herring!videodub06:21
ubotuRed_Herring: Do they come in packets of five?06:21
Red_Herring!kino06:21
ubotuSome people juggle geese, Red_Herring06:21
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi i have a question06:24
Red_Herringhi06:24
Tallia1Kubuntui just installed kmplayer mplayer frontend extension using a deb package06:25
Red_Herringok06:25
Tallia1Kubuntuduring the installation some errors due to incorrect library version installed appeared06:25
Tallia1Kubuntusynaptics now tells me that the package is broken06:25
Tallia1Kubuntubut the program runs perfectly!!06:25
Red_Herringreally?06:26
Red_Herringwell06:26
Tallia1Kubuntuyess06:26
Red_Herringthat can happen06:26
Tallia1Kubuntubut can i make feel synaptics like that there's not error?06:26
Red_Herringtechnically it isnt compatable for that library, but in reality it works jsut fine06:26
Red_Herringtry to fix broken packages using synaptic06:27
Tallia1Kubuntuyes, it thinks it's only because the library, once ported to ubuntu have changed version name06:27
Tallia1Kubuntulook at this06:27
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Jo8hvl53.html06:28
Red_Herringbut it installed?06:28
Tallia1Kubuntuyes06:29
Red_Herringwell...06:29
Tallia1Kubuntubut once i open synaptics it is revealed as broken package06:29
Red_Herringit seems like you have older libraries than it acutally needs06:29
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Tallia1Kubuntuand if i resolve it06:29
Tallia1Kubuntuit uninstall the package06:29
Red_Herringyeah06:29
Red_Herringit woudl be a good idea to remove it06:29
Red_Herringbecause it could start acting crazy on you06:29
Red_Herringbut if it seems stable06:30
Red_Herringjust leave it, and ignore the constant rantings of synaptic06:30
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Tallia1Kubuntu kplayer depends on libxrender1 (>> 1:0.9.0-1); however:06:32
Tallia1Kubuntu  Version of libxrender1 on system is 1:0.9.0-1.06:32
Tallia1Kubuntui don't really undersand this eror06:32
Red_Herringit means it needs anthing better than what you have06:32
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: hmm, where are you trying to install kplayer from?06:33
Tallia1Kubuntucommand line06:33
Red_Herringthe >> apparently means greaterthan and not including06:33
Tallia1Kubuntui see06:33
robotgeeki meant which repository?06:33
Tallia1Kubuntunoone from kmplayer website06:33
Red_Herringkmplayer is not in the repos06:34
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: yeah, that won't work unless you get a upgraded version of libxrender1, which again might lead to difficulties06:34
Red_Herringwe should request it06:34
Tallia1Kubuntui know06:34
Tallia1Kubuntucan you?06:34
Red_Herringrobotgeek: no, he says it works06:34
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Tallia1Kubuntui tried only the basic functionalities06:35
Red_Herringrobotgeek: any idea how to request packages?06:35
robotgeekRed_Herring: i doubt it will be added to the repositories06:35
Red_Herringwhy?06:35
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy?06:35
Red_Herringits nice06:35
robotgeeki mean for dapper, yes06:35
Red_Herringi know06:35
Red_Herringnot for breezy06:36
Red_Herringbut for dapper, it would be nice to have it06:36
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Tallia1Kubuntuit looks very cool06:36
Tallia1Kubuntui am using it now06:36
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robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates06:37
robotgeekadd that to the list06:37
Tallia1Kubuntuhow? i can't see any interaction form06:39
robotgeekhmm, packages.debian.org is down, sigh06:39
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: just edit the wiki, and add it to the bottom, or just wait a minute06:39
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robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: it's already in the list here, https://wiki.ubuntu.org/KubuntuSuggestedPackages06:42
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trekkori installed drupal but i can't run it... no "drupal" is available at a bash prompt. how am i supposed to access it?06:47
robotgeektrekkor: how did you install it? from adept/apt-get ?06:48
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trekkorrobotgeek: sudo apt-get install drupal06:49
Red_Herringhey would ya look at taht, futurama is gonna come back!06:50
Red_Herring4 dvd movies!06:50
robotgeektrekkor: maybe /usr/share/doc/drupal/examples (or readme) has relevant information?06:50
trekkorrobotgeek: thanks06:51
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Red_Herringdoesnt anyone else here like futurama?06:51
trekkorrobotgeek: i thought it provided some executable daemon andor some 127.0.0.1 port for setup06:51
robotgeektrekkor: but i think you have to setup apache correctly for drupal06:52
robotgeeki had to do the same thing for moin, so you might have to do that for drupal06:52
trekkorrobotgeek: i see. thank you.06:52
robotgeeksure06:52
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jasehello07:40
jasehmm07:41
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Tallia1Kubuntucan you tell me something?08:11
Tallia1Kubuntuoh nada08:11
Tallia1Kubuntumaybe i know what's happened08:11
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Miltiadishi ppl:-] 08:24
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trekkoris there any way to use apt-get while another user has synaptic open (but is not using it atm)?08:28
MiltiadisI've got DWL-G650 wireless on my desktop and I want to copy file FwRad16.bin to /lib/hotplug/firmware but the konquer don't let me...any help???08:28
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snowowldoes anyone use limewire08:31
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starscallingsnowowl, what cha need08:33
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shnastybiznasticso I want to tell amarok to use my music files from across the network...  but it only accepts real locations in the filesystem,  is there some trick, or do I need to smbmount the shares?08:37
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quiethey i installed with adept the nvidia drivers, do i got to restart, and where do i see nvidia settings?08:44
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LiteHeddedi have kubuntu installed!08:49
LiteHeddedit installed my wifi out of the box!08:49
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shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: what wifi do you have, intel 2200?08:51
LiteHeddedprism5408:51
shnastybiznasticah, I bet it did then, I need to get a prism card08:51
LiteHeddedhmmm my web browser isn't working now08:51
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LiteHeddedoh ok nm08:52
LiteHeddedmy control and alt keys aren't working!08:53
LiteHeddedwait nm08:53
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Miltiadishow do I change persmissions in a dir???08:54
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shnastybiznastichrmn, I use chmod, but I'm sure these fine people have a gui-rific method08:56
shnastybiznasticchmod -<options> <octal code> file or folder08:58
LiteHeddedgotta say I really dig kubuntu08:58
LiteHeddedwhy the sudo?08:58
shnastybiznasticin general?08:59
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iantechi, i tried installing my printer using the add printer wizard but still its not responding .... im using hp 720 c09:00
LiteHeddedI need help setting up apt-get sources09:01
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: the idea is that it's annoying (and to a large extent, useless) to have a user remember root's password in addition to thier own, so you use the sudo command, it asks you for your own password, and you can do things as root, without knowing it's password.09:01
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: I don't agree with this philosophy yet, but it's a good idea.09:02
CaptainbrailleWell said shnastybiznastic09:02
LiteHeddedcan you help me set up apt-get?09:02
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: I can try...09:04
LiteHeddedi want to install irssi but it says not available.09:04
LiteHeddedyou can add sources right?09:04
shnastybiznasticCaptainbraille: thanks, I may get the talking points wrong, I'm on my first ubuntu (or debian for that matter) install09:04
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: yeah, you need to add the universe and (mabye) multiverse repositories09:05
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: lets see, you would be in KDE, right?09:06
LiteHeddedyes09:06
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: then go K > system > package manager09:09
LiteHeddedI prefer using apt on the command line09:09
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shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: ah, I completley misunderstood, is apt installed?09:10
LiteHeddedI believe by default09:12
LiteHeddedyea I can use apt-get09:12
LiteHeddedyou there?09:13
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LiteHedded?09:15
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fatejudgerhelp, I can't boot Dapper anymore09:15
fatejudgerkdm won't start09:15
fatejudgerit doesn't give any errors09:15
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: sorry, fighting with amarok09:16
LiteHeddedheh09:16
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fatejudgerdoes anyone here use Dapper?09:17
fatejudgerbecause I think it might have been one of the newer packages09:17
Hobbseefatejudger: i do, gettign the latest updates at the moment09:17
fatejudgerHobbsee: after I restarted, kdm wouldn't boot09:18
Hobbseeah ok09:18
fatejudgerI wondering if there's anything I can do09:18
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: I believe (this is coming from a slackware user, so big grain of salt) that you may need to add the universe tag (or it's deb. equivalant) to the repos ou have now.09:19
fatejudgerbecause I can only use the CLI ATM09:19
fatejudgerand bitchx really sucks09:19
Hobbseefatejudger: startx?09:19
LiteHeddedhow do I do that?09:19
fatejudgerHobbsee: sudo kdm09:19
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: I have no idea, but I'm looking :)09:19
LiteHeddedI'm doing it through the gui package manager09:20
fatejudgerthe libglcore and fglrx modules just disappeared!09:20
Hobbseefatejudger: yeah, i'd try startx to bypass kdm in it's entirety09:20
fatejudgerthat's what startx says anyway09:20
fatejudgerit can't find those modules09:20
LiteHeddedat the end of apt-get update I get this:09:20
LiteHeddedFetched 3250kB in 7s (427kB/s)09:20
LiteHeddedE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:20
LiteHeddedE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:20
fatejudgerLiteHedded: you have apt open09:20
HobbseeLiteHedded: close synaptic/adept/any other apt-get windows09:20
LiteHeddedok09:20
LiteHeddedokdone09:21
LiteHeddedI'm trying to install irssi09:21
LiteHedded I get this:09:21
LiteHeddedPackage irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:21
LiteHeddedThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:21
LiteHeddedis only available from another source09:21
LiteHeddedE: Package irssi has no installation candidate09:21
fatejudgerHobbsee: could you do me a favor and paste the text from the ubuntu guide on how to add the fglrx module in here?09:21
LiteHeddedbut my friend just used apt-get to install irssi09:21
fatejudgerLiteHedded: use Konversation09:22
Hobbseefatejudger: as in, from ubuntuguide.org - or is there another guide?09:22
LiteHeddedI am09:22
LiteHeddedbut I prefer irssi.09:22
LiteHeddedthat's no solution though!09:22
fatejudgerHobbsee: I think ubotu knows of it09:22
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LiteHedded:)09:22
Hobbsee!fglrx09:22
ubotufglrx is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:22
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: do you have uni and multi enabled?09:22
Hobbseefatejudger: that one?09:22
LiteHeddedI think so09:22
fatejudgerHobbsee: yes09:22
fatejudgerHobbsee: somewhere in there there is a line that shows how to add it as a module09:23
Hobbseefatejudger: w3m or elinks - w3m's installed by default09:23
Hobbseelooking09:23
LiteHeddedhmm irssi is already installed09:23
shnastybiznasticLiteHedded: does it say multiverse in one of the columns when you manage repositories in adept?09:23
Hobbseefatejudger: hmmm...cant see anything about modules09:23
Hobbseeati card?09:23
fatejudgerHobbsee: are you sure?09:23
LiteHeddedi had universe enabled not multi09:23
fatejudgerHobbsee: yeah09:24
Hobbseefatejudger: fire up w3m and have a look :P09:24
fatejudger!ati09:24
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:24
fatejudgerthe first link09:24
fatejudgertry that09:24
Hobbseeyep09:24
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fatejudgerI wish you could copy + paste in the CLI09:24
shnastybiznasticyou can09:24
shnastybiznasticmith middle click09:25
shnastybiznasticwait...09:25
shnastybiznasticyes, it is possible09:25
shnastybiznasticfatejudger: you highlight the thing you want, then middle click09:26
shnastybiznasticand it puts it there09:26
fatejudgerI said in the CLI09:26
fatejudgernot in KDE09:26
fatejudgerdo you know what CLI stands for?09:26
fatejudgerCommand Line Interface09:26
fatejudgerthere isn't any highlighting going on in here09:26
shnastybiznasticfatejudger: I use slackware, if you have GPM then you can use a mouse in the CLI09:26
shnastybiznasticthen you need GPM09:26
fatejudgerI can't load X!09:26
shnastybiznasticGPM dosent use x, just it's taisty drivers.09:27
shnastybiznasticbut I see your point, and cede my lack of understanding via your situation09:28
fatejudger!ati09:28
ubotuit has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:28
Hobbseefatejudger: this?09:28
Hobbsee#09:28
HobbseeAdd fglrx to /etc/modules:09:28
Hobbseeecho fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules09:28
Hobbsee#09:29
HobbseeChange 'ati' to 'fglrx' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:29
Hobbseesudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:29
fatejudgerthanks09:29
fatejudgerI just found it in w3m as you said that09:29
fatejudgerlol09:29
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Hobbseeah, right09:30
fatejudgerok, I guess I need to restart to load the ATI module09:30
fatejudgerbrb09:30
_grigorycan anyone help me setting up PHP + apache?09:33
_grigoryi installed and configured apache, compiled and install php, but the server won't start now:09:34
_grigoryhttpd: Syntax error on line 417 of /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/local/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: undefined symbol: sqlite3IdListDelete09:34
_grigorycan't get past it :(09:34
_grigoryany help would be appreciated09:35
_grigory!php09:35
ubotuhmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:35
_grigoryoh...09:35
Captainbrailleanyone want to answer a question that I'm sure is super easy09:36
HobbseeCaptainbraille: shoot, we might be able to :P09:36
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fatejudgerwell this is slightly ironic09:37
fatejudgerI got everything to work by using the open source ati drivers09:37
fatejudgerinstead of the proprietary ATI ones09:37
fatejudgerI would assume that has nothing to do with the drivers themselves09:37
fatejudgerjust the packages or something09:37
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_grigoryeven TVOut? ccant get that to work properly09:37
Hobbseefatejudger: weird09:37
fatejudgerHobbsee: seriously09:38
fatejudgerHobbsee: but I don't want to use the open source ones09:38
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CaptainbrailleThanks Hobbsee =), okay, I just installed Kubuntu 5.1 Breezy, and want to update to 3.5m right? So I go to this page.. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php  .. and it says "You can download the KDE packages from any of these sources (add to /etc/apt/sources.list)"  and then it shows "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" thats the right thing to do right?09:38
iantechow do i instyall easy kubuntu .deb package?09:38
HobbseeCaptainbraille: yep, just follow all the instructions on that page :)09:38
fatejudgeriantec: by eating it09:38
Hobbseehehe09:39
iantecyeh funny09:39
fatejudgerlol09:39
iantecthnks for the help09:39
Hobbsee!deb09:39
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb09:39
fatejudgerI also notice that network doesn't autoconfig anymore09:39
CaptainbrailleHobbsee: Well, I opened up sorces.list - and it won't let me save it after I add that line =\09:40
HobbseeCaptainbraille: try kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
fatejudgerHobbsee: do you have an ATI card?09:41
Hobbseefatejudger: indeed I do not, nor a nvidia card09:41
CaptainbrailleHobbsee: should I just add it to the bottom of the list? or does it matter where? and does it need a # infront of it?09:41
fatejudgerHobbsee: well I want to revert back to the proprietary drivers, the open source ones don't really perform at the super high rez I have to use09:41
fatejudgerI wish Riddell was on09:42
HobbseeCaptainbraille: yes, the bottom is fine, you dont want the # in front of it09:42
fatejudgerhe's up to date on every little thing that happens with Kubuntu09:42
Hobbseehehe09:42
Hobbseewhere is he?09:42
fatejudgerso if some faulty fglrx package was updated09:42
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fatejudgerI dunno, he never answers09:42
fatejudger!ati09:42
ubotu[ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:42
CaptainbrailleHobbsee: You rock!09:42
quieti cant do admin stuff, when it asks password and i enter it, it gives error: DCOP communication error - check dcopserver is running - but i cant see in services becos it aint taking password09:43
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HobbseeCaptainbraille: glad to see it worked :)09:43
Hobbseequiet: in a terminal, type dcopserver09:43
Hobbseeit'll give an error if it's already running09:44
fatejudgeryou know what09:44
fatejudgerI bet I know what happened09:44
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fatejudgerthey probably updated the kernel09:44
fatejudgerand didn't update the drivers to go along with it09:44
quietit says DCOPserver its running09:44
Hobbseefatejudger: ugh09:44
fatejudgerHobbsee: sounds probably though, huh09:44
fatejudger*probable09:45
Hobbseegot no idea, but it sounds likely09:45
aftertafhi ppl09:45
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CaptainbrailleHobbsee, can I ask one more thing?09:46
HobbseeCaptainbraille: sure09:46
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aftertaflol09:46
aftertafjoys of dapper09:46
CaptainbrailleThe command you gave me, what does it mean? Why/ how did it work? I guess it's more of a two part question, haha09:46
Hobbseehehe09:47
Hobbsee!+kdesu09:47
uboturumour has it, kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "09:47
iantecwell09:47
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ianteciantec@ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i easykubuntu-0.6.1.deb09:47
iantec(Reading database ... 121454 files and directories currently installed.)09:47
iantecPreparing to replace easykubuntu 0.6.1 (using easykubuntu-0.6.1.deb) ...09:47
iantecUnpacking replacement easykubuntu ...09:47
iantecSetting up easykubuntu (0.6.1) ...09:47
ianteciantec@ubuntu:~$09:47
HobbseeCaptainbraille: kwrite is a text editor, like kate, nano, etc09:47
iantecwhat do i do nexT?09:47
Hobbsee!tell iantec about pastebin09:47
fatejudgeriantec: use pastebin09:47
iantecsorry i was about to use pastebin but my net is in a crawl09:47
Hobbseeiantec: means it has installed09:48
iantecso how do is use it?09:48
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Hobbseegot no idea, never used easy kubuntu09:48
aftertafkeeping busy Hobbsee ? :)09:48
CaptainbrailleHobbsee: okay, thanks =) That makes more sense09:49
Hobbseeaftertaf: just got home from a beach holiday, almost 2 hours ago09:49
HobbseeCaptainbraille: no problems :)09:49
aftertafnice :)09:49
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Hobbseeaftertaf: no internet connection though09:49
aftertafHobbsee: if its any consolation, all updates work ok, i rebooted this morning.... just not on kernel 15.1409:49
quietwhen it says X needs to be restarted that means what? computer or session?09:49
aftertafHobbsee: we have to learn to live without constant tcp/ip ;)09:50
Hobbseequiet: session, ctrl alt backspace09:50
Hobbseeaftertaf: yeah, i did, it sucks!09:50
Hobbsee:P09:50
aftertafquiet: X is graphics session......09:50
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quietok thx09:50
aftertafquiet: you can quit session and press CTL+ALT+Backspace to restart X09:50
iantecis it really this hard to do such a minor thing in linux? i eman cant everything just work?09:50
quietk,09:50
aftertafiantec: its not hard when you knwo how... its knowing that takes time and getting used to.09:51
aftertafbut it is MORE than worth it, i swear!!!09:51
Hobbseemore updates....09:51
aftertafstick with it, you'll learn jhow.09:51
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LiteHeddedI need samba help09:52
LiteHeddedI can't mount a shared directory or install a shared printer09:52
aftertafHobbsee: yeah python again... ;)09:52
ianteci eman ive been reading a LOT but its always not enough. i eman my printer is still not working after doing reading and following forum threads... oh well. guess this is the only way to learn.09:52
Hobbseeaftertaf: this is still the *last* lot of updates - from 18/109:52
aftertafi've got all gtk stuff segfaulting right now. so on kde or E17 with kde only apps :)09:52
Hobbseeyou didnt want gtk stuff anyway09:52
LiteHeddedcan someone help me?09:53
aftertafno gtk == no amule, no bmp, no xchat.... no firefox!09:53
aftertaf!samba09:53
ubotusamba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:53
Hobbseeaftertaf: no firefox???  argh!09:53
aftertafargh!09:53
Hobbseekinda wishing i hadnt deleted breezy now09:53
aftertaflol09:53
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aftertafkonqueror does most ok tho.09:53
Tallia1Kubuntuhi i have a problem with compilation..09:53
aftertafyou can chroot an xserver and install firefox if you NEED to ;)09:54
fatejudgerHobbsee: why?09:54
Tallia1Kubuntui don't think that those guy published a final release without resolving these problems09:54
aftertafTallia1Kubuntu: go ahead ;)09:54
Tallia1Kubuntuthe configuration went good09:54
Hobbseefatejudger: well, if it doesnt work09:54
fatejudgerHobbsee: don't you just love your ATI drivers all of a sudden not working?09:54
aftertafTallia1Kubuntu: compiling what?09:54
Tallia1Kubuntubut when i launch make these errors appears.. Any suggestions?09:54
Hobbseefatejudger: hehe, yeah!  i'm *very* greatful for my intel integrated card09:54
Tallia1Kubuntucompiling the program that i am trying to install09:54
HobbseeTallia1Kubuntu: pastebin the errors09:54
Tallia1Kubuntusupertuxcart09:54
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat i am doing :)09:54
Hobbseeooh that, did they update it?09:55
aftertaflol Tallia1Kubuntu pastebin ;)09:55
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GVn2rB49.html09:55
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Tallia1Kubuntuno09:55
Tallia1Kubuntuit's not in the reps09:55
Tallia1Kubuntubut i'd like to try it09:55
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Hobbseei realise that - i was meaning the site09:55
Tallia1Kubuntuany idea?09:55
Hobbseewas a candidate for universe, IIRC09:55
Tallia1Kubuntui konw09:56
Tallia1Kubuntuthat's how i find it out :)09:56
aftertafTallia1Kubuntu: you're missing a package somewhere......09:56
aftertafbut whta? i dunno...09:56
Tallia1Kubuntudo you think so?09:56
fatejudgerHobbsee: well, I'm going to try and see if I can get the proprietary drivers to work again, wish me luck09:56
Hobbseegood luck fatejudger!09:56
quieti installed the nvidia settings package, but where is it?????09:56
Hobbseeok, it's finally upgraded09:56
aftertafyeah...sdl something i'd guess09:56
Tallia1KubuntussgBranch09:56
Tallia1Kubuntui'll just search the library for this09:57
aftertafyeah, maybe you need other things from source if not uptdate with repository09:57
aftertafquiet, followed the factiod?09:57
aftertaf!nvidia09:57
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:57
LiteHeddedsweet! samba works now thanks for the guide!09:58
Tallia1Kubuntui think plib09:58
aftertafLiteHedded: :)09:59
Tallia1Kubuntuyes09:59
Tallia1Kubuntuit seems so09:59
LiteHeddedstill not showing the other machine in smb4k though09:59
LiteHeddedjust this machine09:59
aftertafTallia1Kubuntu: cool :)09:59
_casey_linux newbie needs help getting kaffeine to play css crypted dvd10:00
LiteHeddedwait there it is10:00
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starscalling_casey_,10:00
starscallingfirst:10:00
starscalling!restricted formats10:00
ubotu[restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'10:00
starscallingsecond: sudo apt-get install xine-ui10:00
starscallingxine is the pimp shit lol10:00
aftertaflol starscalling :)10:01
starscallinghehe10:01
starscallingaftertaf,10:01
starscallingi just got an it admin to go to linux today10:01
starscallingkubuntu to be exact lol10:01
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fatejudgerwell someone is going to be hearing from me on this matter10:01
starscallingknow what his reason was for styaing with windows so long?10:01
aftertafnope?10:01
starscallingfatejudger,  on what matter10:01
starscallingaftertaf, outlook express10:02
starscallingwanted to do emails10:02
starscalling...................10:02
fatejudgerI can't believe that they would just break the proprietary fglrx ATI drivers10:02
fatejudgerand nobody would notice10:02
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aftertafOMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! looooooooooool starscalling10:02
fatejudgerthey're COMPLETELY broken10:02
aftertafhe calls himself an admin? chr*st10:02
quiet!nvidia10:02
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:02
starscallingfatejudger, do a apt-get --purge remove <package>10:02
starscallingyeah thats what i said aftertaf10:02
aftertaffatejudger: nasty... :/10:02
fatejudgerstarscalling: I'm using Dapper, it isn't that10:02
fatejudgeryeah, the price you pay10:03
starscalling.............10:03
aftertafstarscalling: whatdoes he admin?10:03
starscallingfatejudger, then its probably a broken dependancy lol10:03
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starscallinga uni aftertaf10:03
aftertafloooool10:03
LiteHeddedprinter works!10:03
aftertafcool LiteHedded10:03
LiteHeddedthis is my new favorite distro10:03
aftertafhehe10:03
fatejudgerstarscalling: no, it's a broken package10:03
starscallinghehe10:03
aftertafyou and millions dude ;)10:03
fatejudgerstarscalling: Dapper is still alpha10:03
LiteHeddedheh10:03
starscallingpersonally im all about ubuntu10:04
starscallingi prefer the gnome interface..10:04
fatejudgerGnomer10:04
starscallingyeah10:04
fatejudgerGnome is ugly10:04
starscallingif i wanted windows i would have it10:04
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aftertafe1710:04
fatejudgerKDE is beautiful10:04
starscallinggnome is only ugly if you dont take hte time on it10:04
fatejudgere17 is beta10:04
starscallinggnome-art goes a long way10:04
starscallinge17 is broken crap unless u compile10:04
aftertaffatejudger: yeah but beautiful and ultra fast10:04
starscallingand i hate doing that10:04
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starscallingon my amd's anyway10:04
fatejudgerstarscalling: the best KDE interface vs the best Gnome interface doesn't even compare10:04
fatejudgerstarscalling: the best you can do is make Gnome look like OS 910:05
aftertafstarscalling: i use a script for that. grabs from cvs, comiles :)10:05
starscallinglmfao fatejudger i couldnt disagree more10:05
fatejudgerstarscalling: with OS X window interfaces10:05
starscallingreally aftertaf ?10:05
Hobbseeok, looks ok10:05
starscallingshoot me that10:05
aftertafyeah starscalling10:05
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fatejudgernot only that, GTK sucks10:05
starscallingi cant seem to get all the dependancies right for building..10:05
fatejudgerQT is awesome10:05
Hobbseewhy is there a spelling error in the topic?10:05
starscallinghmm10:05
aftertaflool Hobbsee10:05
starscallingso thats my problem10:06
starscallingim not ported right in this thing at all or something10:06
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LiteHeddedthis default version of firefox is no good10:06
starscallingbrb fixing porting10:06
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Hobbseeright10:06
LiteHeddedis there a way to get the newest with apt?10:06
aftertafLiteHedded: yep    sudo apt-get update10:06
fatejudgerLiteHedded: sudo apt-get update10:06
fatejudgerLiteHedded: sudo apt-get upgrade10:06
aftertafthen sudo apt-get upgrade10:06
fatejudgerlol10:06
aftertafhehe10:07
fatejudgerdid we both need to give him the same answer?10:07
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aftertafno.... but irc is like that10:07
quiethow i find kernel version???10:07
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Hobbseequiet: uname -r10:07
aftertaflol... i just type Dapper10:07
aftertafas i have a script too :)10:07
Hobbseehehe10:07
aftertaflinux rox10:07
LiteHeddedi did upgrade10:08
LiteHeddedstill only 1.0.710:08
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starscallingeh mind trying that again aftertaf ?10:08
quietwell i have the correct nvidia install, i dont see where nvidia settings are...10:08
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aftertafok10:08
Hobbsee!firefox1.510:09
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:09
aftertafquiet: which settings? the gui to cinfigure your card?10:09
quietyea, and i hope there is to turn on drop shadows, and set tv-out...10:09
aftertaf /usr/bin/nvidia-settings10:10
starscallingah10:10
aftertaftype nvidia-settings in terminal10:10
starscallingaftertaf,10:10
aftertafyep?10:10
starscallinghad to define a ports path in xchat lol forgot that10:10
quietomg10:10
quietyeah10:10
aftertafhehe10:10
starscallingeh10:10
starscallingits not my fault anymore10:10
quietwhys it not installed in menus?10:10
aftertaflol10:10
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starscallingmeh10:10
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aftertafhttp://dev.winged.it/blog/lestat/get_e_sh_updated_to_0_5_410:11
aftertafstarscalling: ^^10:11
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starscallingoooooo <310:12
quietwhats starscaling10:12
LiteHeddedwhat terminals do you guys use?10:12
visik7???10:13
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quiethow i do a drop shadow for windows?10:13
HobbseeLiteHedded: virtual terminal or konsole?  weird question10:13
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LiteHeddedlike aterm konsole etc10:13
visik7Yakuake10:13
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LiteHeddedyakuake?10:15
aftertafLiteHedded: eterm / konsole10:15
fatejudgeryakuake kicks ass10:15
aftertafand screen :)10:15
LiteHeddedi installed it10:15
LiteHeddedyakuake is neat10:16
LiteHeddedfrom the top10:16
aftertaflol10:16
LiteHeddedcan you make yakuake transparent?10:17
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fatejudgerLiteHedded: yes10:18
LiteHeddedhow do you close yakuake?10:19
fatejudger!ati10:19
ubotu[ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1010:19
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visik7LiteHedded: with the same command that u use to open it10:20
LiteHeddedi mean make it stop running in the background10:20
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LiteHeddedlike f12 brings it down and puts it up but how do you killit?10:20
visik7kill it10:20
visik7it's usefull 'couse it in background10:20
aftertafsudo killall yakuake ?10:21
LiteHeddedyea I want to reopen it with different background color10:21
visik7to change the background right click and choose10:21
LiteHeddedoh10:21
LiteHeddedsweet10:22
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aftertafok, things to do....... c yall later. good weekend people :)10:24
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iantechow nwill i know if my 3d accelerator is already working10:26
iantecor if the driver is already isntalled10:26
stamenhello10:26
stamenhow can I view am I using the UDMA option for my drives10:26
robotgeekiantec: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"10:26
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stamenrobotgeek10:27
LiteHeddedsweet I'm digging yakuake10:27
iantecarg. why does it say no while easy kubuntu said it is already isntalled this is a pain!10:27
stamenthe same problem is with me too10:28
stameniantec10:28
stamenthe answer is "no" too :(10:28
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stamenand when I try to load the fglrx module with this command "modprobe -v fglrx"10:29
stamenthere is n o answer10:29
visik7lsmod |grep fglrx10:29
ianteco well spent hours for nothing10:29
LiteHeddedi need ati help too10:30
stamenfglrx                 255524  010:31
stamenagpgart                34792  2 fglrx,sis_agp10:31
LiteHedded!ati10:31
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1010:31
visik7stamen: check your xorg.conf10:31
stamenfor what I must look there10:31
iantecok i used easy kubuntu to do that specific job. i eman if it doesnt work why use it.10:31
robotgeekstamen: i have no clue about binary, drivers. sorry. iantec also10:32
iantecoh well. kinda tired now. no progress.  thanks for the time10:32
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iantecthanks10:32
LiteHeddedi want the 686 right?10:32
LiteHeddedfor a p4?10:32
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LiteHeddedthat's my arch?10:32
visik7stamen look for section Device10:32
stamenand....10:33
visik7stamen: the Driver  should be fglrx10:33
HobbseeLiteHedded: i think so, yes10:33
visik7is it true ?10:33
LiteHeddedok good10:33
stamenI will look now10:33
stamenwait10:33
stamenthe driver there is "ati"10:34
noizerhi guys someone can say me where to find source for apt? I have kubuntu breezy 5.10 for amd6410:34
stamencould I change it?10:34
visik7so it's the builtin in xorg nor the one for the 3d accell10:34
stamenshould I :)10:34
visik7stamen: yes change it with fglrx10:35
robotgeeknoizer: do you want a sources.list?10:35
stamenok, and after that to reset X ?10:35
noizerif it is possible..10:35
robotgeekubotu: tell noizer about easysource10:35
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visik7stamen: yes10:36
LiteHeddedapt-get is slow to download the linux-68610:36
stamenvisik7: I have two sections DEvice10:36
visik7???10:36
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stamenon the one is Driver "ati"10:36
stamenthe other is "fglrx"10:36
stamenIdentifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 (R300 AP)"10:37
stamen        Driver      "ati"10:37
visik7ok one is commented the other no10:37
stamen        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"10:37
visik7don't PASTE HERE!10:37
stamenok10:37
visik7use pastebin10:37
stamenbut they are not comented10:37
stamenhow to use this pastebin10:38
stamenI am new with Irc10:38
visik7www.pastebin.com10:38
Aji-Dahakahuh ... I have kopete up and accounts added, but it won't sign on10:38
robotgeekstamen: it's a website, you paste and click ok10:38
Aji-Dahakano message or anything, it doesn't even try10:38
stamenok10:38
stamenvisik710:38
stamengo there and look10:38
visik7u need to provide me the url10:39
stamenok10:39
stamenhttp://pastebin.com/52702810:39
stamendid you see it10:40
visik7copy the enteire xorg.conf10:40
stamenok10:41
stamenhttp://pastebin.com/52702910:42
stamengood stuf is this pastebin:)10:42
visik7should work10:42
visik7run fglrxconfig10:42
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stamenok10:44
ownerfglrxconfig is removed in latest drivers btw10:44
visik7replaced by ?10:45
fatejudgerowner: are you sure?10:45
fatejudgerowner: it works for me10:45
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fatejudgerowner: and I use Dapper10:45
ownerthe ones from the ati site10:45
ownerthe ones in the ubuntu repos might still have it10:45
fatejudgerI don't know why you're using that script anyway10:45
fatejudgerall you have to do is change "ati" to "fglrx"10:45
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owneri use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:45
ownerand select fglrx10:45
ownerbut then you need to add 2 lines to enable XV playback10:46
Aji-Dahakadoes kopete work alright for everione else?10:46
visik7no kopete is a pain in the ass for me10:47
Aji-Dahakaoh?10:47
visik7frequent disconnection10:47
visik7messages don't delivered and other problems10:47
Aji-Dahakaah10:47
Aji-Dahakabut never "won't even try to connect"10:48
visik7mmm dunnno10:48
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brosiozi've install w32codecs but i can't play video that are on divx6 anyone could help ?10:50
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Aji-Dahakabrosioz: but other divxs are fine?10:50
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brosiozAji-Dahaka: i don't have other divx with codec divx10:51
brosioz :|10:51
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_casey_can someone point me to the proper area on the web to install packages that are not in Kynaptic10:53
cerdgThat would depend on the package you're looking for10:54
_casey_im trying to install libdvdcss2.deb and a package to let me view and manipulate ntfs file systems10:55
Aji-Dahaka_casey_: if you have the package, jut dpkg -i10:55
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Aji-Dahakaif you don't have it and know the package name www.yahoo.com and www.google.com work well10:56
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LiteHeddedman I can't say enough how great this distro is. it just keeps on impressing me10:56
FiNeXHi!10:56
_casey_it says that it cant find the file10:57
_casey_im a total noob at the linux command line10:57
cerdgdo you have the file on your computer?10:57
_casey_yes it is on the desktop10:57
asranieli have a big problem. i cant install kde-devel. i think its because of this broken dependency: http://pastebin.com/52704310:58
cerdgok, open up a terminal and cd to your desktop10:58
_casey_do i cd just like in a dos prompt or is there some special way10:58
_casey_like i said im totally new at this10:58
Aji-Dahakasame10:58
Aji-Dahaka(bah ... dos prompt ... then you're not a total newbie to the command line)10:59
Aji-Dahaka(you just lack experience with a good one)10:59
cerdglol10:59
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_casey_yeah. ok it looks like this now: casey@wYoRm:~$ cd -P /home/casey/Desktop$11:00
Aji-Dahakahow 'bout this adept ... if it would stop crashing it would be pretty reasonable software11:00
Aji-Dahaka_casey_: excellent and then sudo dpkg -i <name of package.deb>11:00
asranielis there anyone here that has kde 3.5(.1) and that can install kde-devel?11:00
Aji-Dahakaasraniel: I'll try in just a tick11:00
cerdgI'm looking right now asraniel11:01
cerdgwell, it's asking for the CDrom that I gave away11:01
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_casey_it returned me to the prompt so i assume that means it worked?11:02
cerdg_casey_: if you didn't get any errors, then yes11:02
_casey_sweet11:02
_casey_and i do that with any packages i want to install?11:03
Aji-Dahakaasraniel: says it would break(install)11:03
cerdg_casey_: anything that is not in the repositories11:03
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_casey_sweet. divx playback here i come11:03
cerdgif it is, I suggest getting it from there11:03
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Aji-Dahakasecretly that's part of what adept/kynaptic/whatever does for you11:03
asranielAji-Dahaka: thank you, so it is kubuntu that is broken and not just my installation11:03
Aji-Dahakaasraniel: seems temporarily broken, yeah11:04
Aji-Dahakaasraniel: you on dapper?11:04
asranielAji-Dahaka: no, breezy11:04
Aji-Dahakaah, I'm on dapper and it's broken .  must be both11:04
asranielhmm.. should i fill a bug? or any devs here?11:05
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cerdgAji-Dahaka:  how stable is dapper now?11:08
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Aji-Dahakacerdg: I've not had a complete system crash yet ;)11:09
Aji-Dahakacerdg: adept and various application crashes, though11:09
cerdgAji-Dahaka: I'll wait for adept then...I'm a fan of wandering through and looking at packages rather than knowing specifically what i want11:10
LiteHeddedanymore of these type things: !ati a new ubuntu user should read? :D11:10
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reonhi11:11
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miveczDoeas anyone  can  help me to  install a kde theme pls11:17
LiteHeddedis the only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu the window manager they come with?11:18
Aji-Dahakamivecz: kde-look tells you how11:18
Aji-DahakaLiteHedded: supposedly that's the big difference11:18
Aji-DahakaLiteHedded: you can use repos back and forth11:18
miveczAji-Dahaka  idont  understand  explain me  what  are u mean11:18
Aji-Dahakamivecz: go to kde-look.org and read their how-to on installing themes11:19
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miveczi dont  find it   where11:20
Aji-Dahakamivecz: http://kde-look.org/11:21
mivecznd  after11:21
Aji-Dahakamivecz: you go to a theme that you like11:22
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Aji-Dahakaand then you download it and read its instructions11:23
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miveczok i  think i  uDerstand:P11:26
LiteHeddedhow do you search apt?11:26
miveczhow i  extract it\/11:27
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LiteHeddedhow do you get libdvdcss?11:31
_casey_type it in google11:31
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miveczwhere  i  find  other  kde  theme  or  gnome  theme  not kde-look.org11:32
owner!libdvdcss11:32
ubotufrom memory, libdvdcss is DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:32
_casey_http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/ can also get it here11:32
fatejudgeris anyone here using an ATI card on Dapper?11:33
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ownerfatejudger ati drivers are completely broken with kernel 2.6.15 and xorg 6.911:34
fatejudgernot the open source ones11:34
fatejudgerjust fglrx11:34
owneryes11:34
ownerfglrx is broken11:34
fatejudgeris that in Breezy too?11:34
ownernot in breezy11:35
fatejudgerthat's right11:35
fatejudgerbreezy uses .1211:35
owneryes11:35
fatejudgerwell this is just stupid11:35
owner2.6.14 works11:35
fatejudgeropen source drivers suck11:35
ownerfglrx sucks too i think lol11:35
ownertoo buggy11:35
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fatejudgerit renders things nicely though11:35
owneryes11:35
fatejudgernot all slow11:35
fatejudgerand crappily11:35
ownerits the fastest for 3d11:36
fatejudgerand I run my rez at 1920x120011:36
ownerbut compared to nvidia drivers...11:36
fatejudgerso I need most I can get out of my graphics card11:36
ownerthey already have 2.6.15 and xorg 6.9 support11:36
fatejudgeryeah11:36
ownerati needs to speed up their linux development11:36
owneror they lose customers11:36
fatejudgerwell when are the fglrx drivers going to support the new kernel?11:36
fatejudgerI'm guessing this is up to ATI11:37
ownerthey eventually will11:37
fatejudgereventually???11:37
fatejudgerthis is bullshit11:37
Aji-Dahakathe radeon driver works awesome for me on dapper11:37
owneryes11:37
fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: like I said, I run at WUXGA rez (1920x1200) so I need the proprietary drivers to render everything smoothly11:38
ownerwhen i tried fglrx with 2.6.15 it caused so much instability11:38
ownerbut there are some patches floating around11:38
fatejudgerX just couldn't find the module11:38
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ownercheck rage3d linux forums11:38
fatejudgerit isn't THAT important11:38
Aji-DahakaI run 2048x1536 so I guess I don't have the weird resolution problem, fatejudger11:38
Aji-Dahakafunny that it would have problems with non 4:3s11:38
Aji-Dahakaoh well, stranger things have happened11:38
fatejudgerI'd rather wait for the official version and use the open source one in the meantime11:39
fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: it isn't a widescreen issue11:39
fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: I use Dapper11:39
fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: it has a newer kernel11:39
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Aji-Dahakaokay?11:39
Aji-DahakaI am using dapper with a new kernel as well11:39
Aji-Dahakabut use the open source drivers to get everything rendering smoothly11:40
Aji-Dahakaso I was imagining the strange resolution was the problem11:40
fatejudgeryou're using the "ati" driver?11:40
Aji-Dahakano, "radeon"11:40
owneraji which card do you have11:40
fatejudger960011:40
fatejudgeroh11:40
fatejudgernm11:40
fatejudgerdidn't see you were talking to him11:40
ownerlol11:40
fatejudgerhe probably has a nicer one11:41
fatejudgerone that renders better even with crappier drivers11:41
Aji-Dahakaowner: radeon 8500 and radeon 960011:41
Aji-Dahakaowner: (and 7500 in my lappy)11:41
fatejudgerthe regular 9600?11:41
owneraji what score do you get in glxgears11:41
Aji-Dahakathe 8500 is the one on my big monitor11:41
ownerusing dapper11:41
Aji-Dahakano idea ... I'm on my lappy, but I'll check11:41
fatejudgeromg, glxgears runs HORRIBLY11:42
ownerit does with vesa11:42
ownerhaha11:42
Aji-Dahakaumm, glxgears isn't printing out the score11:42
Aji-Dahakait's running smooth but not fast11:42
fatejudgeromg, I feel like beating the crap out of the ATI devels for not working fast enough11:42
Aji-Dahaka(not as fast as it does for me in FreeBSD)11:42
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fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: how big is your monitor?11:42
ownerglxgears -printfps11:43
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ownerthats what ubuntu glxgears needs11:43
Aji-Dahakafatejudger: and yet if they'd openn source it they could sink less devels on it and get more work done11:43
ownerto print fps11:43
Aji-Dahakawhy'd they do that?11:43
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fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: true, but it isn't going to happen11:43
Aji-Dahakaowner: 20029 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4005.789 FPS that's what it says11:43
Aji-Dahakanot sure I believe it11:44
ownerati says they cant open source because they have non disclosure agreements with 3rd parties11:44
Aji-Dahakafatejudger: ever wonder why?11:44
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owneraji thats pretty decent11:44
Aji-Dahakanon-disclosure for their drivers?!11:44
ownerconsidering you are using the open source drivers11:44
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owner3d party technology used on their cards11:44
fatejudgerAji-Dahaka: they'd be giving up their control and possibly certain protected secrets11:44
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Aji-Dahakawhat kird of protected secrets does one hide in the driver?11:45
eightieskowner11:45
fatejudger3990 frames in 5.1 seconds = 785.380 FPS11:45
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Aji-Dahakathey can use binary blobs to hide things if they need11:45
ownerhi eightiesk11:45
Aji-Dahaka(the way that ath does) for bits that may actually disclose a bit of the hardware11:45
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ownerhey fate how come aji gets a much better score11:45
ownerarent you both using the same card11:46
fatejudgerI have the regular 960011:46
fatejudgerI run my monitor using DVI11:46
fatejudgerand I run at 1920x120011:46
fatejudgeron my 24 inch widescreen Dell monitor11:46
asranielwah, i cant install any devel packages! kde-devel does not work, sdl devel does not work :-( what have i done... (i reinstalled kubuntu 2 days ago!)11:46
fatejudgerit's fairly taxing11:46
LiteHeddedwhat do I do with the sources list it generated for me?11:46
Aji-Dahakanot the same card for this one, I fear11:46
eightieski tryed installing http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7559 and got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/772211:46
ownereighties i think plastik is already included in kde theme manager11:47
Aji-Dahakathis is my laptop so a radeon 7500 at 1024x11:47
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Aji-Dahakaeightiesk: you need a c compiler, I think11:48
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eightieskhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1822311:48
eightieskworng link11:48
eightiesk:-(11:48
owneryou need all the kde dev packages too11:48
ownerand build-essential11:48
Aji-Dahakaand mostly a c compiler11:48
eightieskwhats a c compliler?11:48
ownerdo sudo apt-get install build-essential11:49
fatejudgerlol11:49
Aji-Dahakaeightiesk: gcc (debatably)11:49
stamenvisik711:49
fatejudgershould he actually be compiling things?11:49
fatejudgerhe hardly knows anything about it11:49
eightieskwell were do i get one?11:49
owner./configure make make install is easy11:49
eightieski no11:49
eightieskit errored11:49
fatejudgerowner: make install is horrible11:50
stamenvisik7 I tried some things11:50
Aji-Dahakaeightiesk: from adept or whatever you use11:50
fatejudgerowner: checkinstall == goodness11:50
stamenbut when I try to make a test with fgl_glxgears it displays me errors11:50
eightieski had a c compiles i needed build essentials11:51
eightieskthanks yaw11:51
ownerif it errors you prob need kde-dev packages11:52
ownerjust search in synaptic11:52
eightieski need Qt11:52
eightieskwhat ever that is11:52
ownerQT dev packages11:52
eightieskk11:52
asranielhow can i unistall kde completely? i want to reinstall it completely11:52
fatejudgerlol. see?11:53
fatejudgerhe doesn't even know what QT is11:53
fatejudgerthese people should be using packages11:53
eightiesk:-p11:53
eightieskthis is my 5th linux day11:53
fatejudgerasraniel: why would you ever want to do that?11:53
eightieskbite my a$$11:53
Aji-Dahakaoh, almost out of food in the house.  time for me to become a hunter-gatherer11:53
ownerdo sudo apt-get install libqt-mt-dev11:53
fatejudgereightiesk: compiling isn't a linux-only thing11:53
owneri think thats the one11:53
eightieskk thanks11:54
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cubusjoin #klasa wujo11:54
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asranielfatejudger: because my apt seems completely broken, i cant install and devel packages. and i blame kde 3.5 for that (and perhaps a small error i did) and i believe that removing kde and installing it again could work (i installed half of kde 3.5.1 for dapper, this could be a problem..)11:54
ownersudo apt-get install qt3-dev-tools11:54
ownerthere is another one11:54
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eightieskthanks for helping me out all the time people.!!! some of the guros or what ever u wanna call your selfs *cough* pwn0rz LMAO11:56
eightieskwhats this mean "11:58
eightieskin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed11:58
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Tallia1Kubuntumhh since klaptop is not working, could you suggest me something for controlling the cpu in linux?11:59
Aji-Dahakathat you don't ave kde-hedares, eightiesk11:59
Tallia1Kubuntucpu performances.11:59
ownereighties try sudo apt-get install libq4-dev11:59
ownereighties try sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev11:59
Tallia1Kubuntu?12:00
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Aji-Dahakawill he need a kde-dev package as well?12:00
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owneryes12:00
ownersudo apt-get install kde-devel12:01
Aji-DahakaI should learn how this linux works at some point12:01
Aji-Dahakadidn't figure it out completely yesterday12:02
stamenhow can I preinstall the drivers for ATI12:02
raphinkthankfully in a way Aji-Dahaka if you could figure out how linux works in one day, that would be terrible12:02
eightieskAji-Dahaka, where is kde-headers?12:02
eightieskadept don't have them.12:02
Aji-Dahakaeightiesk: where owner said, a kde-devel pack12:02
eightiesko12:02
eightieski got it then12:03
eightiesk:-)12:03
Aji-Dahakaraphink: why's that?12:03
ownerlol12:03
raphinkAji-Dahaka: because it's an operating system, not a children toy12:03
eightiesklast install i did owner was ubuntu then kubuntu...12:03
eightieski just did kubuntu this time12:04
Aji-Dahakaraphink: but even with a powerful tool, I can often figure out how it works in less than a day12:04
eightieskthere wasn't a full kde install option12:04
Aji-Dahakaraphink: it takes me less than an hour to teach a new crane operator how to do the job12:04
raphinkAji-Dahaka: I've been using linux for about 3 years, I'm an advanced user and dev, yet I woulnd't say I've figured it out completely ;)12:04
owneraji you teach crane operators?12:04
Aji-Dahakaowner: occasionally12:04
ownereighties because the kubuntu-desktop leaves out a lot of kde apps12:05
Aji-Dahakaowner: a bit of a side job12:05
Aji-Dahakamostly I study things12:05
ownerbut then again we dont need 5 media player in kde lol12:05
Aji-Dahakadoesn't it come with 5 in kubuntu?12:06
ownerit doesnt come with juk12:06
ownerbut it can be installed12:06
ownerkubuntu just comes with kaffeine12:06
Aji-Dahakahuh, it also misses noatun12:06
Aji-Dahakakaffeine and amarok I seem t12:06
Aji-Dahakao have12:06
raphinkand amarok iirc12:06
raphinknoatun is a pain12:07
ownerjuk, noatun are obsolete12:07
Aji-DahakaI actually kinda prefer kmplayer to kaffeine12:07
Aji-Dahakajuk isn't obsolete, imho12:07
ownerkmplayer is good12:07
eightiesklol i use winamp :-p12:07
eightieskwine of coarse.12:07
Aji-Dahakableh, winapmp ...12:08
ownerthere is an alpha linux version out12:08
Aji-Dahakano kio-slaves in winamp12:08
visik7winamp ... omg12:08
eightiesklol12:08
Aji-Dahakawithout kio-slaves, I'd be at a loss12:08
visik7never seen a port from windows to linux with good results12:09
ownerpeople already like nero for linux12:09
ownereven though it has less features than k3b12:10
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Aji-Dahakavisik7: but there is definitely software that runs great on both12:10
visik7nero and winamp are only 2 example12:10
Aji-Dahaka(usually made for both from the get-go)12:10
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DjDarkPingvinhy ,some program is blocking alsa ,how can i find out wich?12:10
visik7Aji-Dahaka: yes that is developed under linux and then ported to windows12:11
visik7:)12:11
ownerdjdark, alsa can usually mix sounds12:11
Aji-DahakaDjDarkPingvin: fstat /dev/dsp ?12:11
ownerbut oss ties up sound12:11
Aji-Dahakavisik7: which is vlc?12:11
Aji-Dahakabah ... kuake works but doesn't have multiple tabs ... wonder how to get yakuake wokirg12:12
DjDarkPingvindjdarkman@Darknet:~$ fstat /dev/dsp12:12
DjDarkPingvinbash: fstat: command not found12:12
Aji-Dahakaworking*12:12
ownernot all sound apps use dev/dsp12:12
owneronly oss apps12:12
Aji-Dahakaoops :(12:12
Aji-Dahaka(back to me being a linux newb)12:12
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DjDarkPingvinyes but i wanna know whay program is messing with my sound12:13
Aji-Dahakasorry, dj ...12:13
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i see the current cpu speed?12:13
ownerdjdarkpingvin, try sudo killall -9 artsd12:13
Aji-Dahakaowner probably knows12:13
Tallia1Kubuntufrom terminal?12:13
visik7Aji-Dahaka: what's wrong with yakuake?12:13
Aji-DahakaTallia1Kubuntu: cat /proc/cpuinfo12:13
Aji-Dahakavisik7: can't figure out how to "activate" it12:13
visik7press F12 or rebind it12:13
DjDarkPingvinno owner doesn`t work12:13
ownerdjdarkpingvin, try sudo killall -9 esd12:13
DjDarkPingvindjdarkman@Darknet:~$ sudo killall -9 esd12:14
DjDarkPingvinesd: no process killed12:14
owneryes esd is the gnome sound daemon but you never know..12:14
Aji-Dahakavisik7: there it is, thanks12:14
Aji-Dahakavisik7: kuake was taking over the keybinding ...12:14
eightieskant there an extra skin pkg?12:14
eightieskaint*12:15
DjDarkPingvinowner: what next?12:15
Aji-Dahakaeightiesk: kdeartwork?12:15
ownerdjdark which sound app do you use to play music?12:15
DjDarkPingvinxmms12:15
ownerhave you tried going into xmms options12:15
ownerand selecting output alsa12:15
DjDarkPingvinit`s already selected12:15
eightieskAji-Dahaka, ya that skin errored again lol12:16
eightieski'ma just look for something else12:16
ownerare you using dapper djdark?12:16
visik7Aji-Dahaka: btw when u start yakuake a balloon in on the upleft corner of the screen appears and tell u what to do to activate yakuake12:16
DjDarkPingvinno owner using breezy with kde 3.512:16
Aji-Dahakavisik7: sure enough, but as I had kuake running, it was a lie :p12:16
ownerdjdark run alsamixer in terminal12:16
ownerand make sure nothing is muted12:16
ownerpress m to unmute12:17
ownerif it has mm, its muted12:17
Aji-Dahakaah, there ... all rebound12:17
Aji-Dahakayakuake on f11, kuake on f1212:17
DjDarkPingvinowner: nothing is muted ,tha`s not the problem ,i get error msg from xmms12:17
visik7Aji-Dahaka: why 2 ?12:18
Aji-Dahakanow I'll be able to decide which I like better or if I just want one :)12:18
visik7it's quite useless12:18
ownerdjdark did you try it12:18
Aji-Dahakavisik7: deciding which I like better12:18
Aji-Dahakathough yakuake is certainly winning out so far12:18
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visik7:)12:18
DjDarkPingvinowner: i can`t unmute anything coz theres nothing muted12:19
Aji-Dahakait seems yakuake crashes X sometimes (X bug, I imagine)12:19
ownerdjdark which error do you get from xmms12:19
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DjDarkPingvinxmms says that i can`t open the audio12:19
ownerdoes oss output work?12:20
visik7Aji-Dahaka: I use yakuake a lot never got any crash12:20
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DjDarkPingvinyes owner12:21
ownerthats weird12:21
DjDarkPingvinit worx with oss but i dont wanna use oss12:21
visik7DjDarkPingvin: use artsdsp12:21
owneryeah oss ties up the sound card12:21
ownerartdsp is good too12:22
DjDarkPingvinartdsp?12:22
ownerarts12:22
DjDarkPingvinis it like alsa?12:22
owneryes12:22
Aji-Dahakavisik7: shadows on or off12:22
ownerits the kde sound daemon12:22
Aji-Dahakavisik7: seemed that shadows did it for me12:22
ownerbut it works pretty good with alsa12:22
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visik7Aji-Dahaka: on12:22
Aji-Dahakahuh ...12:23
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Aji-Dahakaalright, guess I'll roll with it.  thanks, visik712:23
DjDarkPingvinok owner but how do i install and select it for everything that uses sound?12:23
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owneryou can use it with apps that let you chose it as sound output12:24
DjDarkPingvinxmms?12:24
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DjDarkPingvincedega?12:25
ownerdo sudo apt-get install xmms-arts12:25
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Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i execute a command that requires root privileges without being root?12:26
Tallia1Kubuntui have my klaptop broken12:26
DjDarkPingvinTallia1Kubuntu: sudo command12:26
Tallia1Kubuntuand i'd like to have a double icon with two speed12:26
Tallia1Kubuntunono12:26
robotgeek_work!kdesu12:26
ubotukdesu is, like, :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "12:26
Tallia1Kubuntui never want to insert the passworkd12:26
DjDarkPingvinhmmm12:27
Tallia1Kubuntulike reboot, i can execute it without being root12:27
DjDarkPingvinbut your user to the admin group maybe12:27
Tallia1Kubuntu??12:27
robotgeek_workTallia1Kubuntu: hmm, read "man sudo" maybe for adding commands which can be executed without root permissions12:27
ownertallial you could edit sudoers12:27
ownerto make it never ask for a sudo password12:28
Tallia1Kubuntufor a particular command right?12:28
owneri think that can be done12:28
Tallia1Kubuntui'll try to see12:28
ownerhttp://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html12:29
DjDarkPingvinowner: xmms doesn`t work with artsd12:29
DjDarkPingvinman these sound systems realy give me hell12:29
robotgeek_workTallia1Kubuntu: man sudoers , it has details12:30
ownerdjdarkman you could do what i did12:30
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owneri downloaded and compiled latest alsa from alsa website12:30
DjDarkPingvinand what did you do?12:30
ownerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//HdaIntelSoundHowto12:30
ownerusing that guide12:30
ownernot sure which card you have but its a similar procedure12:30
DjDarkPingvinhmmm ,and do you have problems now?12:30
owneralsa works perfectly12:31
ownerno skipping or lag12:31
ownerthe best thing is that now i have alsaconf12:31
ownerwhich ubuntu devs removed12:31
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DjDarkPingvinand what do i do if i mess up alsa12:34
DjDarkPingvin?12:34
ownerit shouldnt mess up12:34
ownerimho12:34
DjDarkPingvini have 2 soundcards12:34
ownerdoes alsa work in either of them12:35
DjDarkPingvinyes ,now it worx ,i hope it will work after i complie the source12:35
ownerhow did you get it to work?12:35
ownerbtw you might need to install ncurses dev packages12:37
ownerto compile one of the alsa packages12:37
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ownerbrb12:37
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Aji-Dahakakubuntu doesn't seem to play nice with my pre-built kde config12:39
Aji-Dahakawonder why :(12:39
Aji-Dahakaand KDEROOTHOME is getting set somewhere inappropriately (to $HOME)12:40
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Aji-Dahakaand windows key isn't working ...12:51
Aji-Dahakafunny the problmes that exist12:51
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SkrotWhat's the default dir for KDE application data in kubuntu (e.g konversation scripts)?12:57
slow-motionhallo12:57
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HobbseeSkrot: ~/.kde12:58
Tallia1Kubuntucould anybody explain me this?12:58
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/IswnYd73.html12:58
SkrotHobbsee: There's another one too?12:58
Tallia1Kubuntui edited sudoers but i still can't execute the program.. :(12:58
SkrotHobbsee: Where files installed with the program is put12:59
HobbseeSkrot: use locate programname12:59
Hobbseein a terminal12:59
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Skrotthanks, it's /usr/share/apps/ by the way.01:00
Tallia1Kubuntuanybody can take a look to that?01:00
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HobbseeSkrot: ah, right01:01
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miveczhello01:11
mivecz:)01:11
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miveczDoes anyone know  i  try to  open  the  login setup screen is loading but  after disappear why?01:11
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Tallia1Kubuntucrash during loading ?01:12
Tallia1Kubuntuanalyze the log01:12
miveczfrom where01:13
robotgeekmivecz: does your screen blank (turn black) or just remains blue01:14
miveczremain01:14
robotgeekhmm. try looking at ~/.xsession-errors01:15
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miveczwhere  i find  these01:16
robotgeekmivecz: sorry, /home/yourname/.xsession-errors01:17
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Aji-Dahakawhy would a windows key be registered wrong in kubuntu?  It shows Win when I hold it down, but Alt when I releas it01:21
Aji-Dahakaand it doesn't work with any of the things bound to Win+foo01:22
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hussamAji-Dahaka: I'm gonna upgrade in 5 hours to dapper01:32
Hobbseehussam: fun01:33
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Jrwahi there!01:38
Jrwaanyone using dapper already?01:38
HobbseeJrwa: yes, some people01:39
JrwaI think there's a problem with the mysql package, something about the socket or so01:39
robotgeek_workJrwa: search for a bug on malone. if there is one unconfirmed, add your information to it. if you can't find one, file a new bug :)01:40
JrwaI've found some people with the same problem but nothing to see with dapper. The common solution is not working for me! (ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2))01:40
Jrwarobotgeek_work, I see ^^01:40
robotgeek_workJrwa: it's highly unlikely that people here will be able to help you with Dapper Mysql, it's prone to breakage :)01:41
Jrwathat's what I wanted to hear in fact, I wasn't sure wether it was my fault or not!01:42
robotgeek_workJrwa: you may not be able to find out if it's your fault or not. Feel free to blame it on dapper, lol01:43
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Jrwahehe, well it just stopped working one day, so I guess I've got the right ;)01:43
miveczwhere i loook  about  errors01:43
robotgeek_workmivecz: /home/username/.xsession-errors01:45
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miveczi cant find it01:49
robotgeek_workmivecz: ctrl + alt + F101:51
robotgeek_workand ctrl + alt + f7 to switch back01:51
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miveczand  after01:55
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miveczctrl alt f7 not make ntg01:56
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robotgeek_workmivecz: login, and look at what errors you are getting, and make a note of them.02:01
miveczi  put  ctrl alt f102:02
robotgeek_workor better yet, "sudo apt-get install fluxbox" after you login, there02:02
miveczi login02:02
mivecznow  what/02:02
robotgeek_workis there no file called .xsession-errors?02:02
robotgeek_workhow long have you been using kde?02:03
robotgeek_workmv .kde .kde-backup02:03
robotgeek_worksudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart02:03
robotgeek_workand login02:03
miveczi use  GNOME02:03
mivecz:P02:03
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robotgeek_workmivecz: why are you asking in #kubuntu then?02:05
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robotgeek_work*sigh*02:05
robotgeek_workrm -rf .ICE_authority02:05
miveczbecause  and  kubuntu and  gnome is  the same  error02:05
miveczsorry02:05
miveczkde and  gnome02:05
robotgeek_workhmm, okay. same error in kde and gnome?02:05
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robotgeek_workmivecz: sorry for shouting, too much work.02:05
mivecz:P02:06
miveczi think is  time to  format  ubuntu02:06
mivecz:P02:06
robotgeek_workanyways, you might try asking in #ubuntu also. but is there a file .xsession-errors02:06
miveczand  reinstal it02:07
robotgeek_workmivecz: ah, no . don't do that02:07
miveczin ubuntu  no onw  help me now:PP02:07
robotgeek_workreformat and install is not the best solution on linux. it works well in windows only :)02:07
robotgeek_workmivecz: you need to explain slightly better, i am not able to get an idea of where the problem is.02:08
miveczi want to change  the  login  screen ok02:08
robotgeek_workmivecz: change the theme or the login manager?02:09
miveczi try to  start  the  login scrren setup is start is  tell me t give  a  pass  i give as  before   but  after little  is close02:09
miveczok02:09
robotgeek_workmivecz: okay. and you trying to login into gnome/kde does not help?02:10
miveczi cnage  theme nothing02:11
robotgeek_workmivecz: you can probably find ppl who speak your local language too, if you are not comfortable with english02:11
robotgeek_workmivecz: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and select kdm (if you are using gdm) or gdm if you are using kdm02:12
miveczcan  i  set  the  gnome or  kde  manager  as  the  1st time i  use/02:12
mivecz?02:12
robotgeek_workthen try again02:12
Aji-Dahakabah, this windows key not working thing is really a pain02:12
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robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: try kcontrol -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Layout02:13
miveczmust be  root  to  write that?02:13
robotgeek_workmivecz: yes, sudo02:14
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robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: X_kb options -> Alt/win behaviour02:14
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mivecza for  reinstall02:15
mivecz:P02:15
tictrichi folks, anybody knows what happened to resolv.conf in dapper? A dns-nameservers entry in interfaces doesn't seem to have effect either.02:15
Aji-Dahakarobotgeek_work: this is a bit weird ... but the xkb options box is blank02:16
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tictricSo the machine takes the nameserver it gets from the router but not the local one I want02:16
miveczsudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm  work  gmd said not installed02:16
Aji-Dahaka(the same with keyboard layouts)02:16
robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: it might be somewhere there, i am on dapper, so i am not sure if they changed it02:17
robotgeek_workmivecz: then you don't have gdm installed.02:17
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Aji-Dahakarobotgeek_work: I mean the option is there and all, but the box in the dialogue is completely blank02:17
Aji-Dahakarobotgeek_work: I'm also on dapper *blush*02:17
miveczgmd=gnome ?02:17
robotgeek_workmivecz: *gdm*02:17
Aji-Dahakawonder if something installed wrong02:17
robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: hmm, i get that. i havent updated since yesterday, however :)02:18
miveczoups02:18
miveczok02:18
mivecz Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.02:18
miveczinvoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.02:18
Aji-Dahakarobotgeek_work: mine was the same yesterday and today :)02:19
robotgeek_workmivecz: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start02:19
AudioMoveanyone know where i can get a linux driver for the lexmark p707 printer?02:19
Aji-Dahakalooked in that very spot and thought it a bit weird02:19
robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: keyboard layout is empty? hmm, you need to file a bug, i think :)02:19
robotgeek_workthis is not kde-3.5.1, right?02:20
Aji-Dahakawhere do kubuntu bugs go?02:20
robotgeek_work!malone02:20
ubotumalone is, like, totally, To search for or enter a bug on ubuntu visit https://launchpad.net/malone/02:20
Aji-Dahaka(2 days old on this linux thing)02:20
Aji-Dahakaah, excellent02:20
Aji-Dahakathanks :)02:20
tictricoh, seems to work a bit slow today. It's working like it should :-)02:20
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robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: get one, edit the wiki too, with the same account :)02:24
Aji-Dahakaooh.  added benefits :)02:24
Aji-Dahakaah ... and cookies aren't working for me :p02:24
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mivecznow man work:)02:25
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miveczcan u tell me  the command  to save it02:25
miveczagain02:25
robotgeek_workmivecz: glad to help02:25
robotgeek_workmivecz: it's already saved. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"02:26
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Aji-Dahakafunny not being able to report a bug due to lack of cookies :)02:27
robotgeek_workif it was a bug about cookies, that would be fun, lol02:27
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Aji-Dahakathe second one is ...02:28
Aji-Dahakawhen I try to access the cookies menu, I get "information lookup failure"02:29
Aji-DahakaI can't actually enable cookies, and am unsure why :p02:29
robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: konq?02:29
Aji-Dahakayup02:30
robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: install epiphany or something, and file it :)02:31
robotgeek_workand file one for the cookies too, lol :)02:31
Aji-DahakaI guess02:32
robotgeek_workAji-Dahaka: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems check here too :)02:33
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pablethello I have a problem with kde 3.502:35
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pabletwhen I plug in a pendrive, i can't see the info meta tag, and I was not having this problem under kde 3.4.3....?02:37
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pabletanyone can help me please?02:38
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bruzstop02:43
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hDp`cherche adresse mail poubelle pour inscription fake02:51
robotgeek_work!fr02:51
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais02:51
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asranielhello. is it just me or is kde 3.5.1 fr breezy completely broken? i installed kubuntu the second time in 2 days, and now apt is broken again.02:52
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robotgeek_workkde3.5.1 is for dapper?02:53
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asranielrobotgeek_work: there is also a breezy rep02:54
robotgeek_workah okay, i have no clue.02:54
asranieldoes anyone know how i can downgrade kde from 3.5.1 to 3.4.3?02:54
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knubbe3.5.0 works nice. except for that i always have to tell it to shutdown twice :-)02:58
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asranielknubbe: yes, i try to get back to 3.5.0, 3.5.1 does not work at all (well, perhaps it does, but it does not install correctly)03:02
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neoscHello all.. jsut got the latest release of kubuntu..03:22
neoscthe iso is 640-odd mb03:22
Xemanth^^yes?03:22
Xemanth^^odd ?03:22
neoscyet nero says it needs 788 mb to burn it03:22
neoscasking 4 overburn03:23
Xemanth^^maybe your iso is somehow corrupt03:23
neoscso? no.. i got it frm a mag dvd03:23
neoscMagazine DVD'03:23
neosci could open it in WinRAR.. no errors reported03:24
neoscanybody?03:25
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weedarDoes anyone have any experience in getting usb microhpone to work under kubuntu?03:30
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neoscWhy does nero need 788 mb for a 640 mb iso.. is this the cooect kubuntu.. can isos be compressed?03:31
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ccc_neosc: i would get the iso from kubuntu.org instead, there are both torrents and http/ftp downloads03:33
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ccc_neosc: and yes, the iso fits on a single cd03:33
neoscwell that would take hours03:33
neoscwhich buring soft did u use03:34
neoscnero/03:34
muzzleI need to enable universe update thingy. How do I do that with Kubuntu?03:34
ccc_i used k3b03:34
neosccool .. that a windows one?03:35
ccc_muzzle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:35
ccc_neosc: no, linux03:35
muzzlethanks03:36
tictricneosc: cant you just run that thing from dvd?03:36
muzzleargh03:36
neoscits an iso in a folder called linux..03:36
neosccan i do that?03:36
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muzzleI saw that yesterday. Didn't help me. I can't find that synaptic package manager...03:36
ccc_muzzle: read at the bottom03:36
tictricneosc: very userfriendly :-)03:36
robotgeek_workmuzzle: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesCliHowto03:37
neosc@trictric : hmmm??03:37
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tictricneosc: burn that image on a dvd instead?03:38
neoscall i have is this 700mb CD-RW03:39
muzzleehm03:39
neoscand i want to try th distro today03:39
muzzleIt says only to enable those which has universe in the components field, but it shows also the main restricted ones..... What to do? hehe03:40
tictricneosc: that seems to little for what nero wants to burn. You could get up and move to a shop where you could get a different magazine with a dezent kubuntu image on it?03:40
ccc_neosc: you sure nero is correctly configured? either it's not, or there's something wrong with the iso you got03:40
tictricneosc: you could have a look inside that image with03:41
tictrichangon03:41
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ccc_muzzle: you can enable those too03:43
tictricneosc: http://www.softonic.de/ie/1953103:43
muzzleI just enabled the universe first03:44
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muzzlethen I'll try and see if I can find what I'm looking for03:44
tictricneosc: now you can just open that image like a folder and extract from it whatever you want03:44
tictricneosc: but that could be tricky for I don't know what they packed into that image03:45
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muzzlehow do I search for packages?03:47
muzzlesudo apt-get install emacs03:48
muzzleit couldn't find it03:48
robotgeek_workmuzzle: emacs-21, apt-cache search emacs03:48
neoscTY tic03:49
muzzlethanks03:50
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muzzlerobotgeek_work: but how did you know? I'm new to this. I wanna learn :D Gotta find out where to look those things up.03:51
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neoscfor reference tho.. i found a very good pack..03:51
neoschttp://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm03:51
robotgeek_workmuzzle: a good place would be the wiki pages03:51
muzzleok03:52
muzzleso now when I do that search like 50 lines comes03:52
muzzlemaybe 200, hehe03:52
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muzzleall kinda stuff03:52
robotgeek_workmuzzle: then you do apt-cache search emacs | less03:52
darwin_hi all03:52
robotgeek_workhi darwin_03:52
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robotgeek_workmuzzle: or you use adept :)03:52
muzzleemacs21-nox I guess is the one03:53
muzzleit doesn't support X. What is X?03:53
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darwin_does anybody here know how to pipe Firefox's sound output to aRts?03:53
robotgeek_workmuzzle: x is the grapical server03:53
muzzleso I don't need that?03:53
muzzleI'm totally new with linux03:53
robotgeek_workmuzzle: unless u are comfotrable with the console, no.03:54
robotgeek_workmuzzle: i meant, you need X :)03:54
robotgeek_workmuzzle: sudo apt-get install emacs2103:54
ludoDarwin, did you tried to launch "artsdsp firefox" instead of just "firefox" ?03:54
darwin_it doesn't work...03:54
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muzzleThat gives me some error03:54
muzzlerobotgeek_work: The line you just pasted.03:55
muzzleor wrote ;)03:55
darwin_i already tried modifying the shell script to launch the firefox-bin binary03:55
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muzzlesomething about the package isn't available03:55
darwin_from just firefox-bin -> artsdsp firefox-bin03:56
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robotgeek_workmuzzle: okay, one sec03:56
darwin_i was just wondering.. what's muzzle's problem?03:57
darwin_i don't know since I just got here.03:57
robotgeek_workmuzzle: impossible, it's in repos. you are using 5.10 ?03:57
robotgeek_workdarwin_: he wants to install emacs03:57
muzzlerepos?03:57
darwin_oh..03:57
robotgeek_workmuzzle: repositories03:57
muzzleI'm not sure which version I'm using.03:58
muzzleHand on03:58
muzzlehang*03:58
robotgeek_workubotu: tell muzzle about repos03:58
darwin_it's in the repos right?03:58
robotgeek_workyeah, in main actually03:58
robotgeek_workmuzzle: cat /etc/issue03:58
muzzlesorry?03:59
robotgeek_workmuzzle: if you want a editor recommendation,  may i recommend vim instead :)03:59
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muzzleI need emacs....03:59
robotgeek_workmuzzle: check your Personal Messages, ubotu the bot must have /msged you03:59
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robotgeek_workmuzzle: heh, okay. we'll get emacs installed03:59
robotgeek_workmuzzle: why don't you try using adept?03:59
muzzleI just need it for school. Not sure if I'll use it.03:59
muzzleadept?03:59
muzzleI did04:00
robotgeek_workmuzzle: it should be in there04:00
muzzleyes and I did the search04:00
ccc_muzzle: did you update after you enabled universe?04:00
muzzleand found it04:00
ccc_oh ok04:00
muzzleyes I did04:00
darwin_muzzle: did you enable all repos?04:00
muzzleprobably not04:00
muzzleI should just enable ALL?04:00
darwin_yup04:00
sweet_katehello: i switched my printer on after having booted up my pc, and maybe it has not loaded modules for printer, in fact i can't print !!how can i "load" my printer?04:00
neoscam recording now...04:00
muzzleoh ok04:00
neoschope to see oyu all in gaim linux :)04:01
neosckubuntu does have gaim right?04:01
robotgeek_worksweet_kate: i don't know anything about printing, sorry. take a look at www.linuxprinting.org04:01
darwin_neosc: yup.. it's in the repos04:01
neoscgr8...04:01
robotgeek_workneosc: nope, kopete is the default client04:01
robotgeek_workneosc: you can install gaim though04:01
darwin_but you could install and use gaim04:01
neosci got net .. broadband thru ethernet... hope kubuntu recognises it automatically04:02
darwin_if it04:02
neosci'd have to config the ip ports right?04:02
darwin_neosc: if it's via ethernet, then it should work..04:02
darwin_neosc: as long as your interfaces are properly configured04:03
muzzleokay I tried using adept now. I still get an error downloading. I enabled everything04:03
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darwin_muzzle: what's the error?04:03
muzzleAdept just prompt me when I'm trying to load it with a box:" There was an error doing download" or something like that04:04
neosccould someone tell me more about kubuntu.. as in the default file system.. winamp equivalent.. divx capabilities...04:04
robotgeek_workmuzzle: you probably don't have your internet configured04:04
muzzleehm04:04
muzzleI can talk here and I've downloaded other packages...04:04
robotgeek_workneosc, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:04
robotgeek_workmuzzle: duh04:05
robotgeek_workmuzzle: can we do this via the Konsole04:05
darwin_may you please try: sudo apt-get update04:05
robotgeek_workthat way you can paste your errors to the pastebin (see /topic)04:05
darwin_then just paste the error/s here04:05
robotgeek_workyeah, do that04:05
muzzleI just did, but I'll do the update again :D04:05
robotgeek_work!pastebin04:05
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:05
muzzletaking some minutes, hehe04:06
neoscoh 99% done!!.. last ques.. kubuntu has gub for loader right?04:06
neoscgrub*04:06
darwin_neosc: yes, it's the default04:07
brandoni have an ntfs part. mounted but it seems that only root can access it. How can i access it as my user so that i can play from this part?04:07
robotgeek_workyeah, grub on intel/amd64 machines04:07
robotgeek_work!ntfs04:07
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK04:07
muzzleupdate done, again04:07
robotgeek_workmuzzle: type "apt-cache show emacs21"04:07
neoscty04:07
muzzledone04:07
robotgeek_workdid it say package not found?04:08
muzzleDescription: The GNU Emacs editor04:08
muzzleyes04:08
robotgeek_worksudo apt-get install emacs2104:08
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darwin_/dev/sda1       /media/C        ntfs    umask=0222      0       004:08
robotgeek_work!paste04:08
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text04:08
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muzzlewow04:08
muzzlenow it's working04:08
robotgeek_workmuzzle: yay04:08
muzzle:D04:09
muzzleThanks04:09
muzzleA lot :D04:09
robotgeek_workmuzzle: select tutorial from help menu, and you'll be on your way :)04:09
robotgeek_workin emacs, that is04:09
muzzleNot sure what I did wrong though. I could find it when I did the search before as well.04:09
muzzlethanks04:09
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brosiozazureus isn't in repository ???04:09
robotgeek_work!azureus04:10
ubotuhmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo04:10
muzzleso this being open source and all I can just see the code of all programs? But I have to download the source first and recompile the new version if I edit them?04:10
robotgeek_workmuzzle: yes04:10
muzzlethat's so cool04:10
robotgeek_workubotu: tell muzzle about compile04:10
muzzlethanks again I'll just read that :D04:11
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murri have a ATI Radeon 9600 card. should i use the "ati" or the "radeon" driver with it? (and no, i'm not going to use the proprietary driver now)04:15
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muzzleif I need some emulator which one should I use? It's for programs written with the win32 api04:18
muzzlewine I guess04:21
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ccc_muzzle: yes, try wine04:22
sweet_katehow can i show files on desktop in Xubuntu?04:23
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AyidenOkay, question... is it safe to have automake 1.6 AND 1.9 installed at the same time?04:24
McScruffi have :)04:24
McScruffnot sure if its safe tho04:24
Ayidenand things compile okay04:24
Ayidenah04:24
McScruffyep04:24
McScruffi had version 1.9 but something i compiled needed 1.604:25
Ayidenbecause if it is safe then what automakes arnt... yeah I need both *(lol)04:25
Ayiden1.9 for pspsdk and 1.6 for a few other things on my system04:25
McScruff:P04:25
McScruffi do all my DS stuff inside windows :(04:26
McScruffon vmware :)04:26
sweet_katehow can i show files on desktop in Xubuntu?04:26
AyidenI do some on windows with cygwin04:26
McScruffi only use windows because it has the emulators to test04:26
muzzleccc_:  so when I search for wine a lot comes again. How on earth should I know which one to download? hehe04:28
Ayidenyeah I use windows too. Its not "bad" per say to use windows though *(lol) it DOES support more its just unstable with explorer... which is practically impossible to remove and if you do many things wont run04:28
McScruffwell great thing about a virtual machine, if it goes tits up you just restore it to the image before04:29
brandonthank you, i'm now able to read ntfs was my user now, not only root.04:29
ccc_sweet_kate: get fbdesk, i think?04:29
ccc_muzzle: just do: sudo apt-get install wine04:29
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AyidenMcScruff: yeah I know I have cygwin backed up... problem though I installed cygwin and had to add it into the environment variable section and now Gaim on windows wont work : (04:30
McScruff:(04:30
AyidenI think its gtk messing up somehow04:30
Ayidencant figure it out04:30
muzzleccc_:  thanks04:30
Ayidengaim is the best... aim has to many adds and gaim is going to support video pretty soon04:31
Ayidenand it has easiest IRC client I know of04:31
Ayiden:)04:31
McScruffi use gaim for msn , but im thinking of retrying amsn04:32
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McScruffkopete was too buggy when recieving files04:32
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Ayidenyeah its alright though the group that works on gaim is dedicated to gaim while kopete is part of kde and they have alot more to work on04:33
Ayidenkde 3.5 is very nice though I have found very few bugs 3.5 is the best yet04:34
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brandondoes araroK not play mp3s from NTFS?04:41
brandon*amaroK, sorry04:42
ccc_brandon: yes it does04:44
brandonb/c i've built my collection and what not. It added my files and playlists just fine. But i won't play them.04:44
brandonit just runs through them and says "Play list finished" without playing anything.04:45
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vgebrandon: you have mp3 codecs installed?04:50
brandonprolly not, should i search adept?04:52
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brandonthis is installed: au/avi/m3u/mp3/ogg/wav plugins for kfile04:55
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brandonmaybe i should install mpeglib? mp3 and mpeg I audio and video library04:56
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blackflaghello all :)05:08
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blackflagI want to setup webmin with virtualmin  and have problems there05:10
blackflagwhen I want use virtualmin it checks the configuration05:11
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NeoScoh crap guys!!!05:11
NeoSckubuntu screwed up05:11
NeoSci had win 200 on c.... and Xp on D05:11
blackflagand says that my post fix configuration is not okay:05:11
NeoSci  can load 200 fine..05:11
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NeoScbut my xp is gone...05:11
eightieskhello alol05:11
NeoScsays hal.dll corupted or missing05:12
eightieskhow do i make azureus open torrents by just using open in firefox?05:12
NeoSctictric??05:12
blackflaghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/52742305:12
eightieskNeoSc, what type of computer do you have?05:12
tictricNeoSc: yep?05:12
NeoScp4 2.66 512 mb05:12
NeoScNeoSc: oh crap guys!!!05:13
NeoSc(21:41:28) NeoSc: kubuntu screwed up05:13
NeoSc(21:41:42) NeoSc: i had win 200 on c.... and Xp on D05:13
NeoSc(21:41:44) blackflag: and says that my post fix configuration is not okay:05:13
NeoSc(21:41:53) NeoSc: i  can load 200 fine..05:13
NeoSc(21:41:58) NeoSc: but my xp is gone...05:13
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NeoSci googled the prod.. it says i'll have to amnually edit boot.ini05:13
blackflagcan someone help with that issue?05:14
tictricNeoSc: you got a backup of course?05:14
blackflaghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/52742305:14
NeoScof what?05:14
NeoScno..05:14
NeoSci can still load win 200 tho05:15
tictricso and you did install kubuntu then?05:15
NeoScyes..05:15
NeoScits working fine..05:15
tictricand it works?05:15
NeoScbut my XP is screwed05:15
tictricah, cool05:15
tictricwhat does the term _screwed_ describe exactly?05:16
eightieskNeoSc, i asked what kinda computer do you have?05:16
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tictricis the partition still there?05:16
eightieskbut just ignore me05:17
NeoScyes..05:17
eightiesknot like i'm ms Cert.05:17
eightiesk:-X05:17
NeoSci can see it frm win 200005:17
NeoSc even the file hal.dll is present..05:17
NeoSc@eight.. as in..05:17
eightieskwho made your pc?05:18
NeoScu mean specs?05:18
NeoScassembld05:18
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tictricnow, who says hal.dll was missing?05:18
NeoScthe loadeer...05:18
NeoScwhen i select XP05:19
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NeoScit says hal.dll may be missing or damaged05:19
eightieskdo u have a oem disk or full xp disk?05:19
eightieskor are u a pirate05:19
eightiesklol05:19
NeoScyes..05:20
tictricand before your installation of kubuntu that was working fine and you didn't do anything to your xp? Strange05:20
NeoSci have an prof XP disc05:20
eightieskwhich one?05:20
NeoScprofessional sp205:20
eightieskis it oem or normal?05:20
NeoSchmm... one sec05:20
eightieskoem would be like dell issued.05:20
NeoScits clearly printed...05:21
NeoScnot for retail or oem distribution05:21
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tictricNeoSc: then you may try to repair your installation with the xp disk but you'll need some sort of live-cd to get back to your kubuntu installation after that05:22
NeoScoh..05:22
NeoSci do have kububtu installation disc05:23
tictricbecause the xp repair stuff might overwrite the master boot record05:23
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NeoScjust burnt it05:23
tictricbut you can't boot from it05:23
NeoScoh...05:24
NeoSci dont mind losing kubuntu for now05:24
NeoScas long as my xp and win 200 are safe05:24
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tictricNeoSc: I'd see it the other way round :-)05:24
tictricNeoSc: but wait a mom05:24
tictricchuck your winxp into your drive05:25
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NeoScok05:25
tictricget into recovery console05:25
tictrictype05:25
tictricexpand (cd-rom)i386\hal.dl_ c:\windows\system3205:25
NeoSci have 4 options05:26
NeoScinstall, learn more, perform additional tasks, check sys compatibility05:26
tictricsorry, meant05:26
NeoSci'm running win 2000 right now05:26
tictricno you'll need to boot from the install cd05:27
NeoScoh.. i cant chat then!05:27
NeoSctell me what i've to do05:28
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NeoSci'll write it down'05:28
tictricbut that's no kubuntu problem and I'd check out what to do first hand carefully05:28
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NeoScok.. i kinda did...05:29
NeoScit said this problem is common on pcs with dual windows..05:29
NeoSci'it says i've to edit the boot.ini file on C:05:29
tictricyep :-) it's a windows problem05:29
NeoSci jsut dont get what to change to what05:29
NeoSchere :05:30
NeoSchttp://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:XwszZfoQJr0J:wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Install_On_A_Partition_Simple_And_Accurate+hal.dll+kubuntu&hl=en&gl=in&ct=clnk&cd=505:30
tictricor you first try just ~# bootcfg /rebuild05:30
tictricfrom that recovery console first and see if that helps05:30
NeoScok05:31
NeoSc* In your BIOS set CD-ROM as 1st Boot Device.    * Insert your Windows XP Setup CD, to boot from CD.    * After the initial loading of drivers is over, on     * the Welcome to Setup Screen with 3 options; Press R key, to "Repair XP installation using Recovery Console".      On the next screen you will be asked to choose your Windows installation, choose the one that is causing the problem by typing      the number beside it.    * You will be prompted for Admi05:31
NeoScbut that ould crap up kubuntu05:31
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NeoScis there anyway i can save it :)05:32
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epMaybe, eventually I'll get around to trying em all.  I I need to do IM, ICQ unfortunely (I'd prefer jabber)  Can someone recommend a IM client?  I like x-chat for ICQ, though normally I prefer QT based stuff.05:33
NeoScok.. off to my repair..05:33
tictricNeoSc: you'd need to just boot from some live distribution and fix the grub loader.05:33
tictricThat's all05:34
NeoScc u on the other side :)05:34
NeoSci do have knoppix live..05:34
tictrichave fun05:34
NeoScwould that do?05:34
tictricyes that would05:34
NeoScgr8...05:34
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NeoSci'll b back05:34
NeoScthanks tictric05:34
yafoothey05:34
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yafootwhere can I - as a non-(k)ubuntu-user - get this lovely kubuntu mouse theme?05:36
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epI guess I should start with gaim?05:36
eightieskrun ur win xp cd05:37
eightieskpress r05:37
tictricep: what about kopete?05:37
eightieskkpete sucks05:37
eightieski heart gaim.05:37
tictricah, I don't actually use im05:37
epeightiesk says it sucks:)05:38
tictricep: I'd try to find what I like. Even if it sucks :-)05:38
eightieskive had gaim since its first windows relase.05:38
yafootor, how is the mouse theme used by kubuntu called?05:38
eightieskgo to adept.05:39
eightieskand gaim has alot of plugins05:39
Jaymackopete does the job05:40
Jaymaci prefer gaim myself05:40
eightieskkopete does do chatrooms.05:40
eightieskbtw05:41
eightieskkopete "doesn't" do chatrooms.05:41
eightiesktypo05:41
eightieskbut btw05:41
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eightiesksuse and fc4 have gaim is a aim program for gnome05:41
eightieskLMAO05:41
eightieskwhen it has all ims05:42
slow-motionbbl05:42
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underdogep: as underdog I find that kopete works fine for irc too. But I like konversation better :-)05:44
tictricso I'm continuing with konversation :-)05:44
Jaymaci use xchat :)05:45
tictricmany mothers have beautiful daughters05:46
underdogthis daughter here is not so bad as eightiesk actually thinks I'd say. Now I go and look for  still another nick and gaim :-)05:47
eightieski dunno05:49
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neoscHello!!05:50
neoscit worked05:50
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neoscHeck my good luck---- Grub is still present :)05:51
neosctic?05:51
tictricneosc: everything? kubuntu still there?05:51
neoscwell grub still is..05:51
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neoscos kububtu too..05:51
murr!ati05:52
ubotuati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1005:52
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sweet_katehow do i remove completely xfce4??05:54
greyhoundaahhh, gaim even makes sounds :-)05:54
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tictricep: I'd say they suck about the same, all of them :-)05:55
neoschey grey..05:55
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neoscu know why the gaim icon blinks in my taskbar...05:56
neoschas been doing that for some time now05:56
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greyhoundwell, I'm actually tictric and just started a detour through all available IM apps :-)05:56
ept that's what I was kind of figuring tictric.  I do like x-chat for irc btw.05:57
NirvanaHey all, anyone know what channel I would join to ask how to make a "secret" gpg key, it's for building a package05:57
neoscHmm05:58
greyhoundx-chat, oh another beautiful daughter :-) I'm going to be young again :-)05:58
greyhoundBut currently I'm in love with konversation, though that might change some time soon :-)05:59
greyhoundnow, greyhound leaves gaim05:59
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`NomadNirvana: you mean to generate a key and then encrypt things?06:00
Nirvanayes06:00
`Nomadman gpg, it's all there I believe06:00
`Nomadgpg --gen-key06:00
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`NomadDoes anyone know of a video screen capture utility for linux?  Camtasia style06:01
neoscow.. one more thing.. during my kububntu install it asked me for my user name and pass..06:01
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neoscnever for the root pass..06:01
neoschow do i access root06:01
laga!root06:01
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:01
eightiesksudo!06:01
eightiesk!sudo06:01
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:01
underdogyou don't use a root account with kubuntu06:01
underdogif you can help it06:02
neoscoh06:02
eightieskunless your in recovery.06:02
neoscwhat if i need to make changes..06:02
`Nomadalcoholic?06:02
`Nomadhehe06:02
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neosclike i want to set up  ethernet card details to setup my net conexin06:02
tictricyou use the sudo command06:02
tictricyou can change into a superuser shell by typing ~# sudo -i06:03
neoscok.. ..06:03
neosccud u gimme the exact location where i can enter the following..ip address.. subnet mask.. default gateway.. dns server06:04
neoscthese ought to set the conexion up06:05
tictricneosc: /etc/networking/interfaces06:05
vega- /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf06:05
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llanitecI tried to install lincvs into kubuntu, depency problems, runs OK under Debian stable06:05
NirvanaOK, after reading it, I'm not sure I understand. The usage is gpg [options (in this case --gen-key)]  [filename] . What is the filename I put in? Is it the gpg key file? Or is it the file I want to make the gpg key for. I don't really know much about encryption...06:06
eieiyowhat does it mean when a program says it needs kernel sources? do i just do the command apt-get install kernel-sources ?06:06
neoscTy.. will do06:06
tictricvega-: but in dapper you'll find that you shouldn't edit resolv.conf any longer06:06
neoscoh..06:06
tictricHaven't figured out yet what that's all about, though06:06
vega-haven't used dapper, but why not? sounds strange06:07
neoscdo i have to edit some files here manually.... or is there a sweet little GUI06:07
vega-sure there is a gui, just browse the menus..06:08
tictricneosc: I'd get used to do it manually because then you'll get to know what it is all about06:08
neoscyes...06:08
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Steleer, i'd stick with the gui06:08
Steleif you don't know what you're doing06:08
neoschmm..06:08
Stelemy 2c06:08
tictricso many beautiful daughters again :-)06:08
neoscits under menu.system> ??06:08
tictricsystem settings06:08
tictric#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN06:09
neoscalright..06:09
tictricvega-: that's what you find in resolv.conf by now06:09
vega-hmm06:09
neoscok.. so i logoff and on.. and my net is set?06:09
vega-sounds really stupid if you have a static ip and dns06:10
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tictricneosc: sudo /etc/init.de/networking restart06:10
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tictricvega-: you put them in interfaces06:10
vega-err06:10
tictricdns-nameservers 123.456.789.123 or so06:11
vega-doesn't sound very standard06:11
vega-yes i know you can put them there06:11
tictricwell, as I said. I haven't found out yet what that's all about06:11
vega-we'll see..06:11
vega-don't think dapper will be that big of a change06:12
tictricneosc: s/init.de/init.d/06:13
vega-compared to breezy + kde 3.506:13
tictricnot really, but that automount works for me again06:13
eightieskwhats t5he best torrent client for kde?06:14
tictricbut I don't get a opera browser for it yet, sadly06:14
tictricktorrent06:15
tictricif it doesn't suck06:15
vega-oh yeah, except that kde 3.5 panel segfaults on exit and sometimes you have to do ctrl-alt-backspace after logout06:15
tictricthey are still existent06:15
vega-ah, ok06:15
tictricthat seems to be a session problem, I've hear06:16
tictricheard06:16
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noll Trying to install wine on a powerpc, I get error. Found this page http://wiki.opendarwin.org/index.php/Darwine:build, which appearently fixes the error, but I cannot figure out how to apply the patch. Who cares to have a look?06:18
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ClayGI'm trying to install everything peice by peice to avoid getting bloated. I've apt-"got" xorg-common, x-window-system, and XDM but to no alas I still dont have X!06:19
ClayGactually, im wrong i do have X but not X login box06:19
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eightieskazureus is slow on here.06:20
tictricClayG: if you try to install X and kde and stuff that way you ought to know what to do06:20
ClayGnot installing KDE06:20
vega-but this is #kubuntu?06:20
tictricyou'll need xdm still06:21
eightieskwhat the 2 older desktops06:21
ClayGgot XDM06:21
eightieskfluxbox and?06:21
ClayGand i can get into X06:21
ClayGim using blackbox06:21
ClayGbut here is the thing06:21
ClayGI have to call it from the prompt, startx, when i start the computer it puts my into a CLI login06:21
ClayGwhat is the Xlogin "called" so i can install it06:21
vega-gdm/kdm/xdm06:22
tictric try #blackbox06:22
eightieskwhats a good linux emulator for windows?06:22
tictric17 users there06:22
ClayGnah I'll try #debian thats a pretty active/good channel06:22
tictriceightiesk: what??06:22
ClayGthanks for the help06:22
eightieska linux emulator for windows.06:24
vega-eightiesk: dunno if there is such a thing, but you could try vmware06:25
vega-although it's not really an emulator..06:25
tictricI don't know if there could be such thing anyway and cygwin is somewhat irksome06:26
sweet_kateciao06:26
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eightieski know winix but i can't find it06:26
tictricClayG: have you got x-window-system-core installed?06:27
ClayGyes06:27
tictricthat should have all the essential stuff in it06:28
ClayGi can get in by typing startx06:28
ClayGit loads blackbox06:28
ClayGwhich is what it should06:28
ClayGthe problem is it starts out in CLI login06:28
tictricdpkg-reconfigure xdm ?06:28
ClayGinstead of the nice cartoon grahicall login06:28
vega-i was just about to suggest the same06:28
ClayGperhaps, lemme give it a whirl06:28
sweet_kateragazzi con linux come faccio a sapere l ip di un utente che mi manda un file?06:28
sweet_katenetstat?06:28
tictricsweet_kate: parli ingles ? :-)06:29
sweet_katei m italian06:29
tictricsweet_kate: perhaps #debian-it06:30
ClayGifconfig sweet_kate06:30
ClayGfirst send picture06:30
eightiesk!pearpc06:30
ubotueightiesk: Syntax error in line 106:31
eightiesk:-(06:31
ClayGif kate is womens name in italy06:31
tictricI know only _kiss me kate_ but that was american. wasn't it06:31
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slow-motionre06:35
eightieskhttp://www.opensource.eu.com/colinux/06:35
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neosci cant access root..06:36
eightiesksudo.06:36
neoscwent to the system settings06:36
eightiesk!root06:36
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:36
eightieskya06:36
eightiesku use grub to start the computer right?06:36
neoscyeah.. thers this eth card thats greyed...06:36
neoscyes06:36
eightieskuse the recovery kernel06:37
neosci click on the 'administrator' button below...06:37
eightieskit will boot u as root06:37
neoscit says 'su returned error'06:37
dark_suicneosc, if you have the problem of the system settigs06:37
dark_suicit's a common problem06:37
dark_suicneosc,06:37
dark_suictry :06:37
dark_suick-menu-> run comand...06:37
dark_suicand write there:06:37
neoscalt +f2 ?06:37
dark_suickdesu systemsettings06:37
dark_suicthat :)06:37
neoscok06:37
dark_suicalt+f2 works too06:37
neoscalright06:37
neoscthen06:38
neosckdesu systemsettings would then allow me as admin?06:39
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MrJangleshello06:44
MrJangleshow do i compile and run a .pl (perl)06:44
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flipjargDoes anyone know if i reinstall and choose to reformat the partition i'm installing on, if it could screw up the install?06:53
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ClayGif anyone wouldn't mind checking out this pastebin error message I'd appreciate it http://hostdestroyer.com/paste/view.php?id=3906:55
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SkrotHi. How does "load average" work? What does 0.13 mean? Is that 0.13%?06:58
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drdeathhey all, im just checkin out kubuntu07:02
drdeathand konversation irc app.... i think i like xchat better07:03
Distro^Junkienaww konvi is better07:04
Distro^Junkiebetter integration for amarok07:04
drdeathhow come ?07:04
drdeathive used it all of 10 minutes so far07:05
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Distro^Junkietry it out for a day then decide07:06
Distro^Junkieok be back in a bit07:06
drdeathwhat all distros do you run Distro^Junkie ?07:07
drdeathwell07:07
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neosckubuntu isnt giving me admin status! .. i tried kdesu systemsettings... but get a 'su returned with error' erroe07:11
neosci tried to enetr recov mode.. but it ended up in a text commandline mode07:12
_olivierhallo07:13
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_olivierhallo07:13
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DHGEneosc: sudo su07:23
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Tainted-TimeOk, I had Ubuntu, but I downloaded the KDE stuff from Synaptic.07:27
Tainted-TimeSo KDE is running good.07:28
Tainted-TimeBut how do I change themes and stuff?07:28
Tainted-TimeAnyon?07:29
insanekanek->Settings->Appearance07:29
Tainted-Timeinsanekane: There is no Appearance.07:29
insanekaneAppearance and Themes ??07:30
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Tainted-TimeNot there..07:30
_adhi there !07:30
Tainted-TimeHi07:30
_adcould I ask a little question ?07:30
_ad;)07:31
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dark_suicwhat do you have more or less related there, Tainted-Time ????07:31
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_adno ? :(07:31
Tainted-TimeSure07:31
dark_suic_ad, ask and don't ask again if you can ask07:31
Tainted-Timedark_suic: I don't know.07:31
Tainted-Timedark_suic: What you mean.07:31
_adit was to be fun07:32
dark_suicgo to system-settings07:32
_adok07:32
dark_suicand look for anything that can be similar to appearance07:32
_adi have ubuntu, i installed kubuntu-desktop07:32
_ad(the package i mean)07:32
dark_suicyeah07:32
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_adand my kde version is *only* 4.307:32
_ad:(07:32
_adsniff07:32
_adsorry07:33
_ad3.407:33
Tainted-Time_ad: I'm in the same boat...Kinda.07:33
dark_suic_ad, is it 3.4.3, true???07:33
_adyep07:33
dark_suicyou know howto add repositories?07:33
_adyep07:33
dark_suicboth of you know how to add repositories???07:33
dark_suicwell07:33
dark_suicadd this repositorie:07:33
dark_suicdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde350/ breezy main07:34
Tainted-TimeI don't know how to add repositories...07:34
_adthx !07:34
dark_suicTainted-Time, what program did you use to install kde?07:34
dark_suicsynaptic?07:34
Tainted-Timeyeah.07:34
dark_suicwell, in synaptic07:34
dark_suicgo to options -> repositories07:34
Tainted-Timeiook07:35
Tainted-Timeok07:35
dark_suicclick on new07:35
Tainted-Timeok07:35
dark_suicleave binary (deb)07:35
dark_suicurl -> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde350/07:35
dark_suicdistribution -> breezy07:35
dark_suicsection -> main07:35
_adthere is a RSA key issue07:35
dark_suicclick ok07:35
_adbut that's alright07:35
dark_suicoh, true, hang on a sec07:36
dark_suic...07:36
dark_suicwget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg07:36
dark_suicexecute this in konsole07:36
dark_suicsudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg07:36
dark_suicboth things07:36
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dark_suicthen update && upgrade and you'll have kde 3.507:37
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_adoki07:37
dark_suichow it works :)07:37
dark_suichope it works :P07:37
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dark_suicTainted-Time, did it add correctly?07:37
dark_suicif it did07:37
_adgpg: no ultimately trusted keys found !!07:38
Tainted-TimeSame thing..07:38
_adbut that's ok07:38
dark_suicthat doesn't mind07:38
dark_suic:P07:38
_adit's not a real issue07:38
Tainted-Timeoh ok07:38
dark_suicyeah07:38
Tainted-Timehow do i update && upgrade?07:38
_adthat's ok for me !07:38
dark_suictainted -time07:38
Tainted-TimeIm a linux noob07:38
_adthanks a lot !07:38
dark_suicTainted-Time, in synaptic07:38
dark_suicupdate = reload07:38
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dark_suicupgrade == the button next to it (mark all upgrades???) and then click on apply :)07:39
_adthanks again !! bye !07:39
dark_suicdoesn't mind, Tainted-Time, we all have been newbies :)07:39
Tainted-Timedark_suic: Hmm, Synaptic doesnt come up now.07:39
dark_suic???07:39
Tainted-Timedark_suic: It just stays on the bottom for about 22 seconds and then closes.07:39
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Tainted-Timedark_suic: Guess I broke it. :P07:40
dark_suic????07:41
dark_suicit may have happened :P07:41
dark_suicjust doesn't mind07:41
dark_suicopen konsole07:41
dark_suicand we're doing it the classical way :D07:42
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hussamRiddell: Hi, I have a question. I want to upgrade to from breezy to dapper. but I says it wants to remove ivman even if I keep kubuntu-desktop. Is ivman not needed anymore?07:43
Tainted-TimeOK07:43
Tainted-TimeKonsole is open.07:44
Tainted-TimeI would rather learn the classical way.07:44
Tainted-TimeI love Linux commands, and stuff.07:44
insanekanehussam: afaik, ivman is not needed anymore07:44
dark_suichussam, you don't need ivman since kde3.507:44
dark_suicTainted-Time, apt-get is your best friend :)07:44
dark_suicand man too :)07:44
dark_suictry man apt-get07:44
insanekane(though it would be a heck of a lot better to have it)07:44
hussaminsanekane, thanks for the explanation07:44
Tainted-TimeOkay.07:45
dark_suicfor updating your packages list and upgrading the packages you have installed, Tainted-Time, you have to do07:45
dark_suicsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:45
insanekanehussam: err, no ... i don't mean your experience will be better off with ivman installed ... i meant that things could be done better if it was actually used07:45
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hussaminsanekane: sorry I didn't get that. I'm currently downloading the upgrade using apt-get dist-upgrade ( should take another hour and a half ) so should I manually install ivman after that or what?07:47
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Tainted-Timedark_suic: Will this have any side-affects?07:48
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hussaminsanekane: does kde 3.5 have something that does the functions of ivman by itself ?07:49
Tainted-Timedark_suic: I think it is done...07:49
dark_suicTainted-Time, it shouldn't have side-affects07:49
dark_suicwell, to quick i think, but could be.. :P07:49
insanekanehussam: not all of ivman ... but some parts of it are handled by media:/07:49
dark_suicnow you need to close session, where the login screen is hit Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, and then reenter07:49
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StRhi all!07:50
hussaminsanekane: you on dapper?07:50
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StRwhat should I do to watch a DVD?07:50
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Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: Ok. Back in.07:51
tictricStR: put it in the dvd drive07:51
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StRtictric: then?07:51
hussam StR: kaffine plays dvds07:51
tictricwatch it07:51
hussam StR: kaffeine*07:52
Tainted-Tim1Hello?07:52
dark_suicyeah, i'm here07:53
Tainted-Tim1Alrighty.07:53
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Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: What now?07:53
dark_suicworked?07:54
Tainted-Tim1Did what work?07:54
dark_suictry konqueror, and see if you updated correctly by clicking help -> about kde07:54
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Tainted-Tim1Im at 3.5.007:54
dark_suicok :)07:55
StRKaffeine Part...07:55
StRPart not found. Please check your installation!07:55
dark_suicnow go to kmenu -> system settings07:55
StRwhat does this mean?07:55
dark_suicand there look for appearance and themes07:55
Riddellhussam: ivman is not needed07:55
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dark_suicwhat's that, StR, where it appears?07:55
StRdark_suic: after runnint kaffeine for the first time07:55
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: Its there.07:55
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: So do I have the latest KDE installed now?07:56
dark_suicnot the latest, but the latest is to be released one day of this07:56
dark_suicin about a week we will have it (and it's 3.5.1, so you have the version before)07:56
dark_suicyo have the newest released07:56
Tainted-Tim1But you have 3.5.1?07:56
dark_suici do have 3.5.1, but it hasn't been released yet :P07:57
Tainted-Tim1Lol07:57
Tainted-Tim1What are some modifications I can do?07:57
dark_suicall you want07:57
dark_suicxD07:57
Tainted-Tim1Lol.07:57
Tainted-Tim1Okay, but can you recommend anything?07:57
dark_suicjust what you like :)07:58
dark_suicthere you have system-settings07:58
dark_suicand if you need even more control, try kcontrol07:58
dark_suic(alt + F2 -> kcontrol)07:58
Tainted-Tim1Awesome.07:59
Tainted-Tim1But, by modifications I meant, to everything.07:59
dark_suicand what do you mean with everything?07:59
Tainted-Tim1I guess I don't know how to phrase it but, what can I do to make it look better?08:00
Tainted-Tim1Still not phrased right.08:00
Tainted-Tim1Lol08:00
Tainted-Tim1Hmm..08:00
dark_suicmmm08:00
dark_suici understood08:00
dark_suicwell08:00
dark_suictry the themes that come with kde08:01
dark_suicthere are some08:01
dark_suicand if not, try looking into www.kde-look.org08:01
dark_suic(i think it's like that)08:01
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: Also, how do I compile sources?08:01
Tainted-Tim1It is.08:01
Tainted-Tim1I have been on it this whole time. :P08:01
dark_suicwell, you won't probably need to compile from sources08:01
dark_suicwell, from there, download a package, uncompress it (tar xzvf package_name.tar.gz) and then go to appearance-themes add new theme08:02
Tainted-Tim1Lol, I mean overall.08:02
Tainted-Tim1Like application sources.08:02
dark_suicfor sources don't have a big idea...08:02
dark_suicbut you won't probably need it unless you're doing programming08:02
Tainted-Tim1Well, I am one.08:03
Tainted-Tim1Not great but that was a main reason for switching.08:03
dark_suicok08:03
Tainted-Tim1+ a web developer.08:03
dark_suicthen install (in synaptic)08:03
dark_suicbuild-essential08:03
dark_suicthere you will have gcc, it's main libs and make08:03
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dark_suicand for ANYTHING you're looking for08:04
dark_suictry at first synaptic08:04
ilba7rTainted-Tim1, install build-essential08:04
dark_suicif not, ask here before downloading08:04
dark_suicmaybe you will have the program in some repositories08:04
ilba7rwill install everything you need for compiling08:04
Tainted-Tim1Thanks.08:04
Tainted-Tim1I love you guys.08:05
ilba7rTainted-Tim1, try also kdevelop it is a good front end for development08:05
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StRin what groups whoud my user be to watch DVDs?08:06
ilba7rsound, vedio and access to external devices08:06
Tainted-Tim1What theme do you guys use?08:07
tictricaudio, plugdev08:07
Mazingaromarcc: because I use it on Debian08:07
Mazingaromarccd: because I use it on Debian08:07
ilba7rvideo is group 4408:08
StRi think I cannot watch because I was not in the plugdev group....08:08
dark_suicTainted-Tim1, i usually used keramik08:08
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StRI edited the /etc/group file... but now I need to re-login, right?08:08
dark_suicuntil i got  the "thunder" theme from kde-look08:09
Tainted-Tim1How do I install themes.08:10
Tainted-Tim1I downloaded one, and its a tar.gz08:10
Tainted-Tim1I took everything out08:10
Tainted-Tim1Now what.08:10
dark_suicwell, if it's a tar.gz you need to uncompress it08:11
Tainted-Tim1Nevermind08:11
Tainted-Tim1Lol08:11
Tainted-Tim1I got it.08:11
dark_suicthat's it :)08:11
Tainted-Tim1I like the thundertheme too08:11
dark_suicyeah, it looks good08:11
Tainted-Tim1Alittle too dark though08:11
dark_suicthe only bad thing is for messenger things, that it does show when you got a message but the sign is too dark so it's almost imposible to see :P08:12
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Tainted-Tim1I cant see my clock.08:13
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Tainted-Tim1Nevermind08:14
Tainted-Tim1I got it08:14
dark_suicnow just got used to kcontrol or system settings and right clicking for configuring things08:15
dark_suicand done :)08:15
Tainted-Tim1My Kmenu thing is really messy08:16
Tainted-Tim1Is there like an autoconfigure08:16
Tainted-Tim1autoclean08:16
Tainted-Tim1:D08:16
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doddois there some way to mount a .bin file?08:17
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StRhi again...08:18
hussamRiddell: ok thanks, I'm doing a dist-upgrade to dapper now. just waiting for the packages to finish downloading08:18
StRno.. I still cannot watch a DVD...   I get:08:18
StRlibdvdread: Elapsed time 008:18
StRlibdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x000146f608:18
StRlibdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB (0x000146f6)08:18
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tictricStR: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats08:21
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: I am trying a different theme and I can't get it.08:22
Tainted-Tim1Its a .kcsource08:22
dark_suicO__o08:22
dark_suicdon't know about it...08:22
Tainted-Tim1http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3352208:23
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SeadapHello all.  How does one go about installing the x.org source files?08:27
StRtictric: I changed the region of my DVD...08:29
StRtictric: so, now, I don't get that error... but I still cannot watch the movie08:30
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optotronhello ! How can I mount a .iso file?08:30
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tictricfolks, most of you are sort of unspecific when asking questions. Cannot do stuff and doesn't work is somewhat obscure08:31
insanekaneSeadap: mkdir xorgSource; cd xorgSource; apt-get source xserver-xorg; sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg08:31
Seadap@insanekane: Thank you!08:32
insanekaneSeadap: okie08:32
dark_suicoptotron, mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /where/mount08:34
StRis there a way to crack the dvd region and make it multi-gregion?08:34
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optotrondark_suic: ThanX08:35
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optotrondark_suic: IT WORKS !!! =D08:40
dark_suici know it works :P08:41
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dark_suicand it works for every file (even non-iso) that give iso9660 as the exit of "file file.extension" (for example files .img)08:41
optotronand from now on; I know that too. Thanks OK08:42
tictricStR: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDRippingandEncoding?highlight=%28rip%2908:42
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SeadapAnybody know where the x includes are supposed to be?  I installed the xorg source but no luck.08:43
insanekaneSeadap: did you do the build-dep step ?08:43
insanekaneSeadap: then ... after getting the source ...08:43
SeadapYes.  It seemed to work fine.08:43
insanekaneSeadap: dont do ./configure, make etc08:43
Tainted-Tim1I'm going to idle in here,08:43
SeadapI'm confursed08:44
SeadapI've dld the source like you said08:44
insanekaneSeadap: is the directory that apt-get source created in xorgSource ?08:44
Seadaplet me see..08:44
insanekaneSeadap: what is the directory that apt-get source created in xorgSource ?08:44
tictricSeadap: what do you want to accomplish anyway?08:44
SeadapI'm trying to compile a plugin for kxkicker and it needs the xorg inculdes08:45
insanekaneSeadap: you should've told me that :P08:45
insanekaneSeadap: you need to get the devel package for xorg08:45
Seadapah.  IC.08:46
insanekaneSeadap: *not* the xorg source08:46
SeadapMy mistake08:46
Seadapshows how much I know *grin&08:46
insanekaneSeadap: everyone makes one of more of those ...08:46
insanekaneone or more08:46
Phazemandid anyone ever success installing photoshop cs2 under wine with ubuntu/kubuntu ?08:46
SeadapSo how does one get the devel pkgs?08:47
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insanekaneSeadap: search for it ... you do have adept ...08:47
insanekaneSeadap: also you can use "sudo apt-cache search xorg" to see all the packages with "xorg" in its name ... then you need to look for packages which say dev, devel or headers in the name08:47
SeadapOkay, thank you.08:48
tictricPhazeman: vmware is a cool bet and very uncomplicated once you got windows running08:49
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic Want to try to help me out again?08:53
Phazemantictric: i know but i want to run it native... don't want to mess with vmware now08:53
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3209908:53
Tainted-Tim1Go there, and try to compile it.08:54
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Tainted-Tim1./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` && make && sudo make install08:54
tictricPhazeman: I believe it is more messin with wine than with vmware. I think wine's still alpha after all.08:54
Tainted-Tim1After I run that, it gives me an error about kdecoration.h08:54
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Phazemantictric: ok i will keep looking for solution. thanks anyway08:55
dark_suictry searching for the exact error in google08:55
Tainted-Tim1AH08:57
Tainted-Tim1needed the kdedev packages08:57
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Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: I love you.09:01
Steleawww09:01
Steletender moment09:02
Tainted-Tim1:D09:02
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Steleoh wait that's just the onions i am eating09:02
Tainted-Tim1How old are guys?09:02
Seadapinsanekane: still no luck.  I've installed the xorg devel pkgs but no luck.09:02
Seadapis there an environment variable I need to check?09:02
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insanekaneSeadap: usually no ..09:03
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SeadapHow can I verify the pgk is installed right?09:03
insanekaneSeadap: whats the exact error you get ? and perhaps you are missing a configure option09:03
Seadapduring the ./configure of the plugin09:03
SeadapI get: for X... configure: error: Can't find the x includes.  Please check your installation and add the correct paths!09:04
dark_suicTainted-Tim1, 2009:04
CaptainbrailleHi I have a quick question09:04
sweet_katehello i m in xfce4, and (i don t know how) clickinng in some config panels (i dont remember where), they disappeared my taskbar and the other bar!!!how to resotre?09:04
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optotronHi! How can i umount a mounted .iso file09:05
Seadapoptotron: umount /path/to/iso09:05
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Tainted-Tim1google09:06
Tainted-Tim1kicks ass09:06
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optotronSeadap: thx09:06
Seadapoptotron: np09:07
CaptainbrailleI'm trying to add an Apt source to "/etc/apt/sources.list" but kate won't let me save, what do I do?09:07
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SeadapCaptainbraille: are you using sudo?09:07
Florian-THi all, i have a little problem with APT09:07
Nirvanahello09:08
CaptainbrailleSeadap:sudo kate?09:08
Florian-Tthere is a package half-installed which is broken09:08
SeadapCaptainbraille: that should work.09:08
Florian-Tand kpkg cannot uninstall it09:08
Florian-Ti mena dpkg09:08
CaptainbrailleSeadap: I get this response "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-captainbraille" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"09:08
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Florian-Ti get an dpkg-divert error: dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to09:09
SeadapCaptainbarille: I would guess a restart will clear the tmp file09:09
DJ-mp3how can set up ircserver?09:09
DJ-mp3where to start and how09:09
Captainbraillethanks, I'll try restarting09:09
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Seadapinsanekane: any ideas?09:10
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insanekaneSeadap: run ./configure --help ... and look for options09:13
Seadapinsanekane: if the xorg devel pkg got properly installed, where would the includes be located?09:14
insanekaneSeadap: /usr/include/X11 ?09:15
Seadapinsanekane: it looks like they're there.09:15
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insanekaneSeadap: use the configure options to point to it09:17
Seadapinsanekane: I'm looking at the configure options but I don't see how...09:17
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visik7I've a weird problem:09:20
visik7apt-get install kde says:09:20
visik7http://pastebin.com/52777509:20
visik7  kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed09:20
visik7so apt-get install kdesdk sats:09:20
visik7so apt-get install kdesdk says:09:20
LiteHeddedhow do you make your taskbar like this:09:21
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visik7  kdesdk: Depends: kspy (>= 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1) but it is not going to be installed09:21
LiteHeddedhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=1529&file1=1529-1.jpg&file2=1529-2.jpg&file3=&name=Grey+Matrix09:21
visik7so apt-get install kspy says:09:21
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visik7  kspy: Depends: kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not going to be installed09:21
visik7but apt-get install kdelibs4-dev is ok09:21
visik7and I've versions greater than needed09:21
visik7any clue ?09:21
sweet_katehow can i start a new session keeping this one? (typing CTRL + what??)09:22
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visik7sweet_kate: K->change user09:22
visik7run another session09:22
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LiteHeddedhow do I see my kde version?09:30
visik7kde-config --version09:31
LiteHeddedit's 3.4309:31
LiteHeddedhow do I upgrade to 3.5?09:31
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LiteHeddedsu09:33
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LiteHeddedanyone?09:34
visik7LiteHedded: u need to add the repo for 3.509:34
LiteHeddedwhat repo is that?09:35
visik7deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main09:35
visik7then upgrade09:35
LiteHeddedok09:36
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^rob^hi09:37
^rob^does anyone use mplayer here?09:37
Tm_Tsometimes yes09:38
LiteHeddedme09:38
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LiteHeddedhow do you make firefox the default browser?09:38
^rob^LiteHedded: do you use normal encoded fonts or iso-8859-x ?09:38
superbnerbcontrol panel09:38
LiteHeddedheh beats me09:39
^rob^i have some problems on showing special characters on mplayer - even xine has the same problem09:39
visik7anyone got some dep problem using kde3.5 ?09:39
SeadapWhere is the $PATH variable set?09:39
^rob^subtitles eat fonts.09:39
^rob^Seadap: .bashrc09:40
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Tainted-Tim1Alright.09:40
Tainted-Tim1Will someone help me install my GFX card?09:40
LiteHeddedwhat kind of gfx card?09:40
Tainted-Tim1Its an Nvidia 5something.09:40
LiteHeddedoh I'm an ati guy sorry09:40
visik7I think that apt from ubuntu has some bugs09:40
Tainted-Tim1Damn.09:41
Tainted-Tim1dark_suic: Any ideas?09:41
LiteHeddedwhat app visik7?09:41
visik7LiteHedded: apt09:41
LiteHeddedoh09:41
Seadap^rob^: not there, where else to look?09:41
LiteHeddedgot my kde upgraded thanks09:42
^rob^Seadap: just add export $PATH=$PATH:/yourpath1:09:42
LiteHeddedhow do i set my default web browser?09:42
jahorhi, please i could not find sollution for one thing i know how to do on rpm based distros.... fake exact number as a provided package.09:43
dark_suicTainted-Tim1,09:43
dark_suicsudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && nvidia-glx-config enable09:43
jahordo i could install for example foo-fake-package*deb and it will provide libfoo = 1.409:43
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Tainted-Tim1Does this have any side affects?09:44
dark_suicno, you'll have to exit session, ctrl+alt+backspace and reenter session, but it shouldn't have09:44
dark_suicthey're just the nvidia drivers :P09:44
Tainted-Tim1im scurred.09:45
Tainted-Tim1Lol09:45
Tainted-Tim1Last time I tried.09:45
Tainted-Tim1It broke.09:45
Tainted-Tim1I had to do a complete reinstall09:45
Tainted-Tim1brb09:46
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fatejudgerhow do I use gstreamer .10 with Dapper?09:50
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TaintedHey09:51
Tainteddark_suic: Eh, It freezes on Starting Hotplug Subsystem.09:52
TaintedIm on a diff comp.09:52
Tainteddark_suic: /me sniff09:53
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Tainteddark_suicYou there?09:56
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TaintedWill anyone help me out?09:59
TaintedWhenever I try to boot it hangs at "starting hotplug subsystem".10:00
superbnerbi have a similar problem Tainted10:00
superbnerbi take it u are trying to install onto HD?10:00
superbnerbor LIve CD?10:00
visik7can someone run apt-get install kde ? just to say if it install or it says broken dep ?10:00
visik7(even if u already have kde)10:00
TaintedI have installed.10:01
TaintedIts been running on my onboard10:01
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TaintedI tried to use my nivdia card10:01
arafatvisik7: it says it is installed...10:01
Xemanth^^batista for the champion again :|10:01
visik7arafat: :%10:01
visik7arafat: did u install it ?10:01
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hussam Xemanth^^: wasn't batista injured?10:02
arafatvisik7: i did install the package kubuntu-desktop... don't know if that includes the package kde10:03
visik7souldn't10:03
TaintedAny ideas anyone?10:04
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=== superbnerb can't help. which forums have you searched?
fatejudgerI can't compile anything in Dapper because all programs complain that autoconf isn't installed10:05
fatejudgerwhat gives?10:05
fatejudgerI have the "autoconf" package which is the latest version I believe10:05
dark_suicfatejudger, the same happened to me in breezy10:06
fatejudgerhow did you fix it?10:06
dark_suicjust can't get an answer... try to find a .deb or a repositorie10:06
Tainteddark_suic Help me10:06
TaintedLol.10:06
TaintedIm on a diff comp10:06
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dark_suicTainted, i've seen, but i can't think of what may happen10:06
hussamfatejudger: I'm upgrading to dapper now10:06
Tainted*sniff*10:06
TaintedDamn.10:06
fatejudgerhussam: I saw your forum post10:06
TaintedSo I cant use my card?10:06
hussamfatejudger: yeah, I10:07
hussamfatejudger: yeah, I'm really excited10:07
hussamfatejudger: any words of wisdom?10:09
LiteHeddedwhat's dapper?10:10
SkrotThe devel version of kubuntu10:10
SkrotAka newer packages, but not stable10:11
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dark_suicTainted, try the nvidia-webpage drivers10:13
hussamLiteHedded: dapper will eat your babies and steal your girlfriend10:13
dark_suicthe drivers in the kubuntu repos may be a bit old for your card10:13
fatejudgerhussam: umm, don't fuck things up?10:13
dark_suiclol10:13
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hussamfatejudger: yep10:13
dark_suicLiteHedded, dapper is the next ubuntu/kubuntu release10:13
dark_suicit can be downloaded for test purposes10:13
fatejudgerdapper is tasty10:13
dark_suicbut is not recomended for desktop10:14
fatejudger!xincludes10:14
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev10:14
hussammmmm... Dapper :P10:14
LiteHeddedi don't think I have the mplayer plugin installed for firefox10:14
LiteHeddedhow do I get it?10:14
fatejudger!dapperxincludes10:14
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, fatejudger10:14
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sagiAfter a while not touching linux while loading system i'm getting the following error: /bin/expr cannot execute binary file, also he couldn't find /bin/psaux, X is not loading anymore, any clues what could occur?10:15
hussamfatejudger: what do you want to compile?10:15
Tainteddark_suic: What do you mean?10:16
Tainteddark_suic: I cant access anything10:16
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hDp`MerC.Et Available NoW / "Msg in a bottle" me10:16
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hDp`NeeD 1 MerC 6o610:20
Slaphappydoes anyone here have problems here with they ftp clients?10:20
hussamfatejudger: will I have to reconfigure X like when I upgraded from hoary to breezy>10:21
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ownerhussam which video card do you have\10:27
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hussamfatejudger: nvidia gefore fx 520010:30
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owneryou should be fine in dapper10:30
ownerits only ati users who have to be careful10:31
ownerxorg 6.9 is broken with ati drivers10:31
hussamah ok10:31
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Slaphappycp: ocan anyone explaain what this means?    cp omitting directory 'lists/'10:32
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lagatry cp -r10:32
Slaphappywill try10:33
Slaphappythanx10:33
Slaphappyworked10:33
dark_suicTainted, if your kernel does not start (hangs at hotplug) try to enter in recovery mode10:35
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dark_suicedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver "nvidia" for Driver "vesa"10:35
fatejudger!xincludes10:35
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev10:35
fatejudgerdamnit10:35
dark_suicthat way you'll at least have a graphical environment10:35
fatejudgerthese packages don't apply to Dapper!10:35
hussamfatejudger: try installing kdelibs-dev it should depend on the x includes10:38
apacheloggerSlaphappy: just for the understanding: cp usually only copies files if you want it to copy also directories you have to tell it to work recursively ... that's the -r ...so if you copy dirs always use cp -r10:38
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sagiI'm getting a weird error during boot: /usr/bin/expr: cannot execute binary file, also he couldn't find /bin/psaux and mouse is not function, X is not loading. how can I fix that?10:39
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jeff_hey guys10:45
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jeff_does anyone here have expreience with Kicker?10:45
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jeff_???10:46
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hussamok upgrade finished. I'll reboot to check if it worked11:01
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LiteHeddedmy ati drivers stopped working11:01
LiteHeddeddoes installing kde 3.5 hose ati drivers?11:01
ownerno11:01
ownerare you using dapper?11:02
scruntive got a mobility radeon 9200 and im using kde 3.5 right now11:02
LiteHeddedcan you help me get them working?11:02
LiteHeddedno I don't think so11:02
LiteHeddedmine is mobility 960011:02
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ownerusually only kernel upgrades and xorg upgrades hose drivers in linux11:02
LiteHeddedthey worked fine when I first installed them via the instructions on !ati11:02
ownerlitehedded, what does fglrxinfo say11:02
LiteHeddedmesa11:03
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ownerit probably overwrote your xorg.conf11:04
LiteHeddedok11:04
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LiteHeddedhow do I fix it?11:04
ownertry running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:04
ownerand select fglrx11:04
Tainted-Timedark_suic: Hey!11:04
LiteHeddedok11:04
Tainted-Timedark_suic: I got it working, but only by bypassing "Starting Hotplug Subsystem" with ctrl-c.11:04
Tainted-TimeBut that takes away my network card, my sound, and other stuff.11:05
Tainted-TimeAny ideas?11:05
SkrotTainted-Time: Is it a laptop?11:06
Tainted-TimeSkrot: No.11:06
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Tainted-TimeSkrot: I have to do it, because my GFX card is PCI.11:07
Tainted-Timeand it hangs on start11:07
Skrotuh :)11:07
SkrotThat's why it hangs?11:07
Tainted-TimeIt hangs on "Starting Hotplug Subsystem".11:07
Tainted-TimeI know.11:07
`NomadHi..  I have an application that starts up everytime I boot recently, DVD-Author.  It"s not in my Autostart folder, is there a global Autostart?11:07
Tainted-TimeBut If I skip it, It works.11:07
Tainted-TimeBut it doesnt start my sound and stuff.11:07
Tainted-TimeI can't buy an AGP one because this only has PCI slots.11:07
SkrotTainted-Time: If you switch terms, with ctrl+alt+<left arrow> and back again you should get som text output for debugging atleast11:08
SkrotIf you're booting with splash11:08
Tainted-TimeSkrot: What do you mean?11:08
SkrotTainted-Time: When you boot, you boot with a splash image, right? Saying kubuntu?11:09
Tainted-TimeSkrot: yeah11:09
SkrotThus you don't see what's going on in the background11:09
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LiteHeddedok I ran that script11:09
LiteHeddedwhat now?11:09
SkrotIf you change terminal with ctrl+alt+left and then back again with ctrl+alt+right, the splash should be gone, and you should maybe see some text output from hotplug11:09
Tainted-TimeSkrot: OK brb.11:10
LiteHeddedowner: you still here?11:10
SkrotBy the way, does anyone know how "load" is calculated? It's not percentage is it?11:10
SkrotE.g "0.01"11:10
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Tainted-TimeIt didnt work11:12
SkrotIt didn't switch?11:13
Tainted-TimeNope11:13
Skrothmm, it does for me.. perhaps the computer hard freezes then11:13
Tainted-TimeNot until it gets to Starting Hotplug Subsystem11:13
Skrotweird.. how do you know it's the PCI card btw?11:14
Tainted-TimeIt works with my onboard gfx.11:14
SkrotI see11:14
Tainted-TimeCan I just blocklist it?11:15
Tainted-TimeBlacklist*811:15
Skrotdunno11:15
SkrotI'm not that familiar with hotplug :\11:15
Tainted-TimeDamnit11:16
Tainted-TimeIt pisses me off.11:16
Tainted-Timebrb11:16
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vrokhi. I think, that Kubuntu's Polish mirror is actually not situated in Poland, but in Portugal...11:37
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Tainted-TimeI FIXED IT!11:50
Tainted-TimeBy myself.11:50
Tainted-TimeLol.11:50
Tainted-Timedev_acpi11:50
Tainted-Timeagpgart11:50
Tainted-Timepcc_acpi11:50
Tainted-Timesony_acpi11:50
Tainted-Timeacpi11:50
Tainted-Timenvidia11:50
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Tainted-Timerivafb11:50
Tainted-Timenvidiafb11:50
Tainted-Timevia-agp11:50
Tainted-Timeintel-pci11:50
Tainted-Timeintel-agp11:50
Tainted-Timei2c_core11:50
Tainted-Timei2c_acpi_ec11:51
Tainted-TimeI black listed all those.11:51
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Tainted-TimeI dunno what they do, but I did lsmod, and did all the ones related to agp or pci or nvidia.11:51
ownerthats a lot of things to blacklist11:51
Tainted-TimeYeah.11:51
Tainted-TimeBut, it works good.11:51
ownerwhat was the problem?11:51
Tainted-TimeMy system was hanging on "Starting Hotplug Subsystem", so I put those in /etc/hotplug/blacklist11:52
owneryou might need to disable ACPI11:52
Tainted-TimeIt only did it when I tried to use my NVidia GeForce 5200, and I only have PCI slots.11:52
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GameOver69hey guys are there any good dc++ programs... i have linux dc++ but im not really diggin it11:56
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_johannesnabend :)11:56
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_johanneshab' mir gerade openbox installiert und eingerichtet, wenn ich mich aber damit anmelden will, kommt nix... er macht einfach nichts mehr nachdem ich mein Passwort eingegeben hab.. komisch11:57
hugelmopf_johannes: join #kubuntu-de for german help11:57
_johannesoi sorry ^^ I thought I was there already, -.-11:58
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