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| dholbach | good night guys | 12:10 |
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| slomo_ | ulaas: pong | 12:12 |
| ulaas | slomo_, hi. do you have a finger on monodevelop? | 12:12 |
| slomo_ | ulaas: partially, yes... why? | 12:13 |
| ulaas | Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory | 12:13 |
| ulaas | if you dont install mozilla | 12:14 |
| ulaas | firefox should be enough i presume. | 12:14 |
| slomo_ | yes, the current sourcepackage already has the correct change for firefox | 12:14 |
| slomo_ | but it ftbfs because of mono 1.1.13 :/ | 12:14 |
| ulaas | slomo_, oki. | 12:15 |
| slomo_ | if you're interested you can provide a patch to fix the build... shouldn't be too hard but i don't have the time currently... but it's on my todo list ;) | 12:16 |
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| ulaas | you should see my todo list :) | 12:19 |
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| kagou | hi | 12:42 |
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| localuser | There seems to be a bug, unless it is intentional | 12:43 |
| localuser | if you first install the server version of ubuntu | 12:43 |
| localuser | then do all updates, etc | 12:43 |
| localuser | then try to install ubuntu-desktop | 12:44 |
| localuser | you will not get the nice splash bootup screen | 12:44 |
| localuser | is this on purpose???!?!?!? | 12:44 |
| ogra | yes# | 12:45 |
| localuser | yes, that is intentional? | 12:46 |
| ogra | the server has no usplash installed | 12:46 |
| localuser | ogra, then how can i install it? | 12:46 |
| localuser | i know, but i insdtalled ubuntu-desktop package on top of server | 12:46 |
| AlinuxOS | hello :) | 12:46 |
| localuser | what is the package, and how to setup if i initially did a server install / | 12:46 |
| AlinuxOS | alive ubuntu gurus ? | 12:46 |
| AlinuxOS | :) | 12:46 |
| localuser | ogra, :-( | 12:47 |
| ogra | yes, but you didnt recreated the initramfs after you installed usplash | 12:47 |
| localuser | ogra, ok then is there some auto procedure to do this? | 12:47 |
| ogra | sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-imgae-`uname -r` | 12:47 |
| ogra | *image | 12:47 |
| localuser | ogra, nice!!!! | 12:47 |
| localuser | ogra, you fscking rule... | 12:47 |
| AlinuxOS | http://alinuxos.no-ip.org/ubuntu-geo.png :) | 12:49 |
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| localuser | ogra, ok thanks man -- one other kernel bug though -- i see message like "base(0xf0000000) not aligned on a size(0x80000000)" when loggin in with GDM | 12:50 |
| localuser | but logging in with KDM works fine | 12:50 |
| ogra | hmm, no idea | 12:50 |
| localuser | that is in /var/log/messages -- googled around and supposed to be fixed in 2.6.6 -- yet i see it | 12:51 |
| localuser | ill file upstream... | 12:51 |
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| BenC | anyone here have 1Gig of ram on x86 and want to test a kernel for me? | 01:33 |
| Tm_T | I do have | 01:35 |
| Tm_T | not sure if I like to test ;) | 01:35 |
| BenC | are you running dapper? | 01:35 |
| Tm_T | sure | 01:35 |
| BenC | it's going to just be linux-image-2.6.15-14 + one patch | 01:36 |
| BenC | no danger of data loss | 01:36 |
| BenC | are you running 386, 686 or k7 variant? | 01:36 |
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| Tm_T | k7 | 01:36 |
| BenC | ok, can you give me 10 minutes to compile it? | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | BenC: "no danger of data loss" you mean I'm losing all my porn.. eeh, document movies?! | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | BenC: sure | 01:37 |
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| BenC | hehe | 01:37 |
| BenC | great, thanks | 01:37 |
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| Tm_T | BenC: aye, slap me when you're ready (so I know to get off from you) | 01:42 |
| BenC | ok | 01:42 |
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| Tm_T | BenC: 10 your minutes... ;) | 01:56 |
| ogra | BenC, btw, i think you broke the snd_powermac module in -14, cat /dev/sndstat only shows the timer, even if all mods are loaded | 01:56 |
| BenC | Tm_T: it's almost done | 01:57 |
| BenC | ogra: Fixed already | 01:57 |
| Tm_T | BenC: jolly good indeed :) | 01:57 |
| ogra | oh, great :) | 01:57 |
| ogra | youre to fast | 01:57 |
| BenC | actually, I break things intentionally, and have the fixed real fast so it looks like I'm doing real work | 01:58 |
| BenC | by dapper release I'll have reverted all my subtle breakage | 01:58 |
| ogra | lol | 01:59 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 01:59 |
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| BenC | Tm_T: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/test-nohighmem-1g/ | 02:16 |
| Tm_T | BenC: downloading ty | 02:18 |
| BenC | let me know when you've had a chance to boot it and we can see if it worked (other than not failing to boot) | 02:18 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 02:19 |
| Tm_T | I'll boot as soon it's installed | 02:20 |
| BenC | are you on the machine you are testing? | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | yes | 02:21 |
| BenC | ok, I'll just wait for your reconnect cycle then :) | 02:21 |
| Tm_T | hmm, no, this irssi is not running on my pc ;) | 02:21 |
| BenC | ah, ok | 02:23 |
| Tm_T | but I'll inform you as soon as possible | 02:23 |
| Tm_T | installing | 02:24 |
| Tm_T | BenC: ok, now rebooting, see you in the other side (or not) ;) | 02:27 |
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| Tm_T | BenC: alo | 02:33 |
| BenC | booted ok? | 02:33 |
| Tm_T | xorg failed to get itself up | 02:33 |
| Tm_T | otherwise yes | 02:33 |
| BenC | are you still booted with it? | 02:34 |
| Tm_T | yes | 02:34 |
| Tm_T | what you wan't me to check? | 02:34 |
| BenC | if so, can you do "dmesg | mail -s highmem-dmesg bcollins@ubuntu.com" ? | 02:34 |
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| MrRio | there's a typo in synaptic for dapper, "Oficially supported" should read "Officially Supported" | 02:35 |
| Burgwork | MrRio, please report a bug | 02:35 |
| MrRio | im just checking to make sure it isnt already there now | 02:35 |
| Tm_T | BenC: done | 02:36 |
| Tm_T | BenC: anything else? | 02:36 |
| BenC | thanks! | 02:36 |
| Tm_T | np :) | 02:36 |
| BenC | /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be nice too | 02:37 |
| Tm_T | any ideas why eth0 need manual ifdown & ifup after boot? | 02:37 |
| BenC | other than that, no | 02:37 |
| Burgwork | MrRio, better to file more bugs than less | 02:37 |
| BenC | hmm, no idea about that either | 02:37 |
| Tm_T | BenC: aye, I'll cat xorg log | 02:38 |
| MrRio | Burgwork: yeah, true | 02:38 |
| BenC | Tm_T: you've been a bug help, thanks. Saved me from having to bug 2x512Meg dimms to test this myself :) | 02:38 |
| BenC | s/bug/big/ | 02:39 |
| Tm_T | bug help indeed ;) | 02:39 |
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| Tm_T | BenC: ok, network issue is like this, in boot, about in first ten lines, comes error message saying something about ifup's postfix and readonly filesystem | 02:40 |
| BenC | ah, that's an initscript issue | 02:41 |
| BenC | not kernel related | 02:41 |
| lamont__ | Tm_T: and fixed in 2.2.8-8 | 02:41 |
| Tm_T | manual ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 brings eth0 alive | 02:41 |
| Tm_T | lamont__: hmm, ok I'll check updates (did it ~100 times today, as usual) | 02:42 |
| Tm_T | thanks :) | 02:42 |
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| LaserJock | doko: ping? | 02:42 |
| Tm_T | lamont__: 2.2.8-8 of what package? | 02:44 |
| MrRio | i think the new update bubble is too 'jaggy' | 02:44 |
| Tm_T | aah postfix | 02:44 |
| MrRio | can i put that in as a bug | 02:44 |
| Tm_T | lamont__: ah I see, 2.2.8-6 here, looks like slow mirrors or something | 02:45 |
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| MrRio | It looks ok-ish i guess, but much worse because it doesnt blend into its background and has horrible jaggy edges | 02:45 |
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| Burgwork | MrRio, already being fixed by the upstream developers | 02:46 |
| MrRio | Burgwork: great, where can I find the patch for that? | 02:47 |
| Burgwork | MrRio, wait | 02:47 |
| Burgwork | umm, wait, it should already be in dapper | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | aye, that's what I heard | 02:47 |
| Tm_T | BenC: ok, what I do now? uninstall that "new" kernel and install old back or wait fixes? | 02:48 |
| BenC | apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.15-14-k7 | 02:49 |
| Tm_T | hmm, that does downgrade? | 02:49 |
| BenC | well, it's the same package name as the current dapper, so it just replaces | 02:50 |
| Tm_T | I rarely downgrade things, I'll try | 02:50 |
| lamont__ | Tm_T: actually, I need to request the sync from debian... | 02:50 |
| Tm_T | lamont__: ok :) | 02:50 |
| Tm_T | good to know it's fixed anyway ;) | 02:51 |
| Tm_T | BenC: hehe, complains about "cannot be downloaded" | 02:52 |
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| lamont__ | Tm_T: let me guess.. /usr is on a diff partition than /? | 02:54 |
| MrRio | being proper dumb here, but if i was going to make a patch to synaptic, which cvs would i use? or would i do it against the latest source package from https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/synaptic | 02:54 |
| Tm_T | lamont__: nope, but that package that benc gave has different (higher version)name than what is in repository | 02:55 |
| MrRio | it needs to be fixed here and not upstream because its a ubuntu specific typo | 02:55 |
| Tm_T | so I did manual downgrade (dpkg -i /var/cache...) | 02:55 |
| Tm_T | BenC: ok, rebooting, I'll let you know how this goes (haven't booted yet to repo -14 kernel) | 02:56 |
| Amaranth | MrRio: If you're making the patch for ubuntu's synaptic I'd guess the source package is best. | 02:57 |
| BenC | Tm_T: I still have't gotten your emails | 02:58 |
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| Tm_T | BenC: sounds bad | 03:24 |
| MrRio | night | 03:26 |
| Tm_T | BenC: let me guess, no way to look if it's sent or not | 03:28 |
| BenC | Tm_T: look in /var/spool/exim4/ or whatever it is | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | ok | 03:33 |
| Tm_T | BenC: not existing anyexim ;( | 03:34 |
| Tm_T | humm, sounds bad | 03:34 |
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| BenC | Tm_T: the mail program had to put it somewhere | 04:12 |
| BenC | Tm_T: check for dead.letter or something | 04:12 |
| BenC | you should be able to grab /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log still (Xorg.1.conf might have moved to Xorg.1.log or something) | 04:12 |
| BenC | Tm_T: grep highmem /var/log/kern.log if you could | 04:13 |
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| Fitzsimmons | hello. | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | hi | 05:56 |
| Fitzsimmons | I did a dist-upgrade to dapper and I might be interested in squashing bugs, but ignore me for a while, as I figure out whether it is an ubuntu problem or a gnome problem :) | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | Fitzsimmons: have you tried looking on Malone? | 06:03 |
| Fitzsimmons | LaserJock: I have | 06:04 |
| Fitzsimmons | LaserJock: I haven't checked upstream yet, but I did a CVS build of gnome-panel (which is what I'm having issues with) and it seems to be having the same behaivour | 06:04 |
| Fitzsimmons | I'm going to drop back to a 2.12 verison and see what it is like | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | so did you check at bugzilla.gnome.org? | 06:06 |
| Fitzsimmons | that's what I meant when I said I hadn't checked upstream | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | ah | 06:06 |
| Fitzsimmons | doesn't appear to be anything on first sight though | 06:07 |
| Fitzsimmons | haha different problem just as useless | 06:10 |
| Fitzsimmons | I'll investigate this tomorrow | 06:10 |
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| Tm_T | argh | 06:14 |
| Tm_T | packages python-twisted python2.4-twisted doesn't install properly | 06:14 |
| LaserJock | how so? | 06:17 |
| Tm_T | every time I run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (as root) it tries upgrade those two... with same package | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | shortly counted have done it now... 56 times | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | did you have a local install of the packages? | 06:18 |
| Tm_T | afaik no | 06:19 |
| Tm_T | I even tried uninstall and reinstall, no help | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | that's weird | 06:20 |
| Tm_T | you tell me! :) | 06:21 |
| Tm_T | nothing but annoying (have to press "n" many many times per hour) | 06:21 |
| LaserJock | I'll install them and see if I get it too | 06:21 |
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| LaserJock | Tm_T: yeah, I got it too | 06:23 |
| Tm_T | thanks | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | what in the world | 06:24 |
| Tm_T | now if I just know why pypanel doesn't work | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | it doesn't? | 06:25 |
| Tm_T | LaserJock: you doesn't happen to be python wizard? | 06:25 |
| Tm_T | nope | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | my pypanel works, and no, I'm not a wizard. I know enough to get by in my work | 06:25 |
| Tm_T | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/526878 | 06:26 |
| Tm_T | both with ubuntu package and from sources | 06:26 |
| Tm_T | if you have _any_ idea how to fix it, please tell | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm running it right now and it's ok | 06:28 |
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| Tm_T | phuuh :( | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | do you have the stock .pypanelrc ? | 06:29 |
| Tm_T | yes | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | afaik | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | I can remove it for test | 06:30 |
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| LaserJock | you might try that | 06:30 |
| Tm_T | doesn't help | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | It look like the problem is with python-xlib, what version do you have? | 06:33 |
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| Tm_T | python-xlib/unknown uptodate 0.12-5 | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | dude, I just don't know :( | 06:40 |
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| floam | BenC: hey, remember me? I was the guy complaining about the broken ATAPI stuff | 07:07 |
| floam | BenC: just now I built my own 2.6.16-rc1-mm3 and the drive magically works | 07:07 |
| floam | I'm very happy you're suspicions of the drive being busted aren't correct :) | 07:08 |
| floam | your | 07:08 |
| BenC | what driver is it working with? | 07:11 |
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| BenC | floam: is it sata_promise? | 07:17 |
| floam | BenC: sata_via | 07:34 |
| floam | oh, you're gone | 07:34 |
| floam | darn | 07:34 |
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| zakame | ls | 08:01 |
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| simira | hjelp | 09:43 |
| simira | all teksten er borte... | 09:43 |
| simira | #wrong | 09:43 |
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| dholbach | hello! | 09:58 |
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| mpt | hi dholbach | 10:07 |
| dholbach | hellas mpt | 10:08 |
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| Tm_T | LaserJock_away: ping | 10:43 |
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| ajmitch | evening mpt_ | 10:44 |
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| stockholm | ogra: ping | 11:05 |
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| siretart | wow. how can the kernel interfere with WOL ability? | 11:24 |
| siretart | wol used to work during hoary, not in breezy, but again with current dapper. I thought it was a hardware/local config problem, though.. | 11:24 |
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| dholbach | hey jinty | 11:26 |
| jinty | hey dholbach | 11:26 |
| jinty | hows it going over there? | 11:27 |
| dholbach | jinty: how is it going? are you in spain already? | 11:27 |
| dholbach | :-) | 11:27 |
| dholbach | nicely, thanks :-) | 11:27 |
| jinty | here raining:( | 11:27 |
| jinty | but tomorrow /me -> South africa | 11:27 |
| dholbach | Mr. Jetsetter :-) | 11:28 |
| jinty | visit the floks and all | 11:28 |
| dholbach | -6C in Trier, gorgeous blue sky, sun shining :) | 11:28 |
| jinty | folks | 11:28 |
| jinty | here raining, cold, and we dont have any heating | 11:28 |
| dholbach | GAR! :/ | 11:29 |
| jinty | or windows that actually close | 11:29 |
| jinty | cold ~5degC | 11:29 |
| dholbach | did you have any time off? | 11:31 |
| jinty | not yet, there was a bit of an emergency with the schooltool server and work to finish before I leave | 11:32 |
| jinty | so I guess I work today/tomorrow | 11:32 |
| jinty | and you? why not outside enjoying the sun? | 11:33 |
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| dholbach | jinty: need to work today - I'll look into the gnome 2.13.90 tarballs and package some a11y related software, i guess :) | 11:36 |
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| jinty | good luck with that | 11:37 |
| dholbach | Thanks. :-) | 11:37 |
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| mvo | hi glatzor | 11:46 |
| glatzor | hi mvo | 11:49 |
| glatzor | No weekend for you? :) | 11:50 |
| mvo | glatzor: we ubuntu guys never sleep | 11:50 |
| mvo | :P | 11:50 |
| ajmitch | mvo: we don't? | 11:51 |
| glatzor | My alert box module is nearly finished | 11:51 |
| mvo | ajmitch: shhhh, don't give away your secret | 11:51 |
| mvo | glatzor: great to hear! | 11:51 |
| glatzor | but there is a problem with file bug report issue: | 11:52 |
| Mithrandir | mvo: apt breaks fairly hard if you have too many conffiles in a package. | 11:53 |
| glatzor | https://launchpad.net/products/gdebi/+filebug | 11:53 |
| Mithrandir | mvo: fails to parse the dpkg status file. | 11:53 |
| glatzor | if you are not logged in you the showed web page of malone does not give very much information to the user | 11:53 |
| mvo | Mithrandir: we talk about that a while ago, it does for any tag that is too big. can I see your conflicts line somewhere? | 11:54 |
| fabbione | mvo: apt-get sucks :) | 11:54 |
| mvo | glatzor: right | 11:54 |
| mvo | fabbione: I found that out the hard way :P | 11:54 |
| fabbione | mvo: i have a nice bug for you to fix at the spring | 11:54 |
| fabbione | sprint | 11:54 |
| stockholm | is mdz on on weekends? | 11:55 |
| mvo | fabbione: is it reported already? or a new one? | 11:56 |
| fabbione | mvo: no idea.. basically installing a package with tons of /etc/apache2/.svn files makes apt-get update cry out loud | 11:56 |
| fabbione | and the dpkg status file becomes somehow corrupted | 11:57 |
| mvo | then don't do that :P | 11:57 |
| fabbione | without the .svn is ok | 11:57 |
| mvo | but sure, I will have a look | 11:57 |
| fabbione | i am not doing it, but it is still a bug :) | 11:57 |
| fabbione | i will show it to you | 11:57 |
| fabbione | we have a simple test case here | 11:57 |
| Mithrandir | mvo: not conflicts. conffiles. even apt-cache refuses to work. | 11:58 |
| Mithrandir | mvo: I also think we managed to confuse it when a package conflicted with itself through a semi-virtual package, or something, but I'd have to track that down further | 11:59 |
| mvo | Mithrandir: is the package that breaks apt available somewhere? so that I can have a look? | 12:00 |
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| Mithrandir | mvo: uhm, no, not really. But I could make you one | 12:01 |
| mvo | Mithrandir: that would be nice (but can wait for the sprint) | 12:01 |
| Mithrandir | yup | 12:01 |
| mvo | Mithrandir: I need to start packing for tomorrow I guess | 12:03 |
| mvo | just got a report that after a dist-upgrade to dapper, the system dosn't boot anymore with: ALERT: /dev/hda8 does not exist. Dropping to a shell | 12:04 |
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| fabbione | i blame udev/initramfs | 12:08 |
| pitti | hey fabbione | 12:08 |
| fabbione | hey pitti | 12:09 |
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| fabbione | slomo, siretart: ping? | 12:20 |
| siretart | fabbione: pong | 12:20 |
| siretart | fabbione: sorry, joerg is quite busy these days re: igor :( | 12:20 |
| slomo | fabbione: pong | 12:21 |
| fabbione | guys, please fix xine-lib FTBFS on sparc | 12:21 |
| fabbione | it didn't build for quite sometime and some stuff now build-dep on it | 12:21 |
| siretart | fabbione: can you provide us access to a sparc machine? | 12:22 |
| fabbione | siretart: not to mine.. sorry. | 12:22 |
| siretart | ok. I'll bug joerg again | 12:22 |
| fabbione | clearly the failure has been introduced to one of the changes you did | 12:22 |
| fabbione | so if you can try to spot it and give me test pkgs, i can test build them | 12:23 |
| fabbione | i just don't have the time to reconstruct the lib history to see what you have done to it | 12:23 |
| slomo | most probably caused by the update to 1.1.0 from 1.0.1 | 12:23 |
| fabbione | slomo: did you check if it did build in debian? | 12:24 |
| fabbione | for sparc i mean | 12:24 |
| fabbione | to cross check if it is an ubuntu change or just upstream | 12:24 |
| fabbione | or perhpaps debian has a patch? | 12:25 |
| siretart | fabbione: siggi (the debian maintainer) is going to upload 1.1.1 soon. I'm interested if that's gonna build in debian/sparc | 12:25 |
| fabbione | siretart: are you aware of UVF? | 12:25 |
| fabbione | xine-lib is in main | 12:25 |
| siretart | fabbione: I am aware. but I think the changes from 1.0.1 to 1.1.0 are bigger than 1.1.0 (which we currently have) to 1.1.1 | 12:25 |
| siretart | fabbione: so this would indicate a regression upstream | 12:25 |
| fabbione | 1.0.1-1.6 (sparc) (latest build at Jan 11 22:25: maybe-successful) | 12:26 |
| fabbione | no | 12:26 |
| siretart | oh | 12:26 |
| siretart | then I confused something. sorry | 12:26 |
| fabbione | debian doesn't have 1.1.0 | 12:26 |
| siretart | fabbione: not yet. it is still sitting in cvs :/ | 12:26 |
| fabbione | ok | 12:26 |
| fabbione | siretart: let's get igor back asap | 12:27 |
| slomo | fabbione, siretart: we have 1.1.1 in dapper | 12:27 |
| siretart | slomo: oh. that was my confusion. | 12:27 |
| fabbione | meh | 12:27 |
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| fabbione | hmmm | 12:40 |
| fabbione | slomo, siretart: ok, first strange thing is the mad plugin is still there somehow | 12:40 |
| fabbione | at least configure enables the local one | 12:41 |
| fabbione | and according to your changelog it should be disabled | 12:41 |
| fabbione | IPv6 is disabled | 12:43 |
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| fabbione | hecking for mad... checking mad.h usability... no | 12:44 |
| fabbione | checking mad.h presence... no | 12:44 |
| fabbione | checking for mad.h... no | 12:44 |
| fabbione | *** no usable version of libmad found, using internal copy *** | 12:44 |
| fabbione | ^^^ | 12:44 |
| fabbione | slomo: | 12:44 |
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| slomo | fabbione: xine-lib has no support for mad anymore... and no internal version of mad is in the sources so don't worry | 12:55 |
| fabbione | ok | 12:55 |
| fabbione | doko: ping? | 12:56 |
| fabbione | doko: what was the gcc option to keep the generate .s around? | 12:56 |
| slomo | fabbione: i was just too lazy to remove the check from configure.in | 12:56 |
| fabbione | slomo: ok | 12:56 |
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| fabbione | slomo: btw... i think the problem with xine-lib goes a bit more down than just xine code | 12:57 |
| fabbione | i need to understand if actually gcc is doing the right think | 12:57 |
| mdke | anyone else having trouble with ifup/down lately? | 12:58 |
| mdke | I can't ifup any interfaces, and lo is down too | 12:58 |
| Mithrandir | yes, it's being silly and thinks the interface is up when the dhcp client fails. | 12:58 |
| mdke | /etc/network/interfaces:29: interface eth1 declared allow-auto twice | 12:58 |
| mdke | ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" | 12:58 |
| fabbione | mdke: yeah i saw that too | 12:59 |
| mdke | Mithrandir, ok, is there a bug open do you know? | 12:59 |
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| fabbione | mdke: if by monday you will not see Keybuk online anymore, there might be the option that somebody did use a slightly too big reminder | 12:59 |
| Mithrandir | mdke: not that I know of. | 12:59 |
| mdke | fabbione, i guess if everyone is seeing it, it'll get fixed without a bug report :) | 01:00 |
| fabbione | mdke: well i did see it once... fixed it and so on.. | 01:00 |
| mdke | there are quite a few bugs open i think | 01:00 |
| siretart | mdke: the fix was to remove the redundand 'auto' line from /etc/network/interfaces. at least for me | 01:01 |
| mdke | siretart, was your "lo" down too? | 01:02 |
| doko | fabbione: -save-temps | 01:02 |
| siretart | mdke: yes | 01:03 |
| fabbione | doko: there was also a verbose asm output.. that adds comments to each asm line to the respective C line of code.. | 01:03 |
| fabbione | doko: do you remember that one too? | 01:03 |
| doko | no | 01:03 |
| doko | fabbione: maybe -fverbose-asm ? | 01:04 |
| mdke | siretart, ah I see the second one, it was way down. Thanks :) It's bug 29654, amongst others i think | 01:04 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29654 in ifupdown "auto eth1 duplicated in /etc/network/interfaces by upgrade" [Major,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29654 | 01:04 |
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| fabbione | slomo: i think i know what is wrong with xine-lib and i know who to beg for a fix :) | 01:05 |
| fabbione | slomo: case wants that the same author of that code is the main sparc kernel developer :) | 01:05 |
| siretart | fabbione: wow :) | 01:09 |
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| ulaas | hi. glx issues with nvidia. (incredibly slow) k7 kernel. any ideas? | 01:19 |
| Treenaks | ulaas: yes, ask on #ubuntu | 01:19 |
| Treenaks | :) | 01:20 |
| Treenaks | That's the support channel | 01:20 |
| ulaas | sure but i am on dapper and i want to help | 01:20 |
| ulaas | i am not asking for help. i want to report to people interested ;) | 01:21 |
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| Mithrandir | hmm, which is the set of kerberos libraries we ended up with? Heimdal or kerberos? | 01:23 |
| torkel | MIT I think | 01:24 |
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| mdke | ulaas, if no one responds, don't forget to file a bug | 01:26 |
| ulaas | mdke, you read my mind ;) | 01:27 |
| fabbione | doko: somehow gcc-4 is generating bad asm on sparc for xine-lib | 01:27 |
| fabbione | doko: {standard input}:218: Error: Illegal operands: There are only 32 f registers; [0-31] | 01:27 |
| fabbione | looking at that line: | 01:27 |
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| fabbione | ldd [%g1] , %f40 ! ref | 01:28 |
| fabbione | probably it's only a missing option calling gcc? | 01:28 |
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| fabbione | ohhh hmm | 01:38 |
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| fabbione | siretart: ayeeeee.. it seems to be a gcc bug, or a missing CFLAG in libmpeg2. I am testing a workaround, but we want the proper fix | 01:47 |
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| ulaas | i used to see my mounts in nautilus (cvs) and places. i had a fresh flight 3 install. i dont have them any more... | 02:29 |
| ulaas | cvs/vfs | 02:31 |
| seb128 | file a bug | 02:32 |
| seb128 | include what version you use, what computer does list, what fstab has, what mount returns etc | 02:32 |
| seb128 | computer=computer:/// | 02:32 |
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| ulaas | seb128, should i file it under nautilus or gnome-vfs? | 02:34 |
| seb128 | gnome-vfs | 02:34 |
| seb128 | but to be honest I doubt that's a GNOME bug | 02:34 |
| seb128 | maybe hal | 02:34 |
| seb128 | or maybe not a bug | 02:34 |
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| seb128 | does "gnomevfs-ls computer:///" list them? | 02:35 |
| ulaas | seb128, thats why i wanted to ask first. lemme investigate more first. if no info i will file a bug. | 02:35 |
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| seb128 | ulaas: ? | 02:38 |
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| smurf | doko_: ping | 02:44 |
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| ulaas | seb128, sorry i got a call. no results. only cdrom filesystem and floppy. | 02:45 |
| doko_ | smurf: pong | 02:45 |
| smurf | doko twisted2.4-conch depends on twisted, not twisted-core. Intentional? | 02:45 |
| seb128 | ulaas: what kind of drive is mounted and not listed? | 02:45 |
| doko_ | fabbione: works with 3.4 or 4.1? isntall gcj-4.1 for the latter | 02:45 |
| doko_ | smurf: there should be an update for twisted-conch | 02:46 |
| ulaas | seb128, i ve mounted an ntfs partition and a vfat. | 02:46 |
| Kinnison | Kamion: ping? | 02:47 |
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| seb128 | ulaas: are they listed by fstab? | 02:47 |
| smurf | doko_: meaning I'll have to wait a few hours? | 02:47 |
| ulaas | seb128, i ve mounted them manually. | 02:48 |
| ulaas | seb128, yes in fstab | 02:48 |
| seb128 | are they listed by /etc/mtab? | 02:48 |
| Kinnison | FYI you guys, the soyuz deployment tests are going very well | 02:49 |
| ulaas | seb128, they are | 02:49 |
| ulaas | /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs rw,nls=utf8,uid=1000 0 0 | 02:49 |
| ulaas | /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 vfat rw,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000 0 0 | 02:49 |
| seb128 | does that make a different if you mount them to /mnt instead of /media ? | 02:49 |
| seb128 | Kinnison: nice | 02:49 |
| ulaas | seb128, no | 02:52 |
| seb128 | ulaas: does "killall gnome-vfs-daemon" change something? is hal running? | 02:52 |
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| ulaas | seb128, i guess hal is ok. (device manager is running). killall just respawns :) nothing good happens. | 02:56 |
| seb128 | ulaas: does setting /system/storage/display_internal_hard_drives with gconf-editor (and restarting gnome-vfs-daemon again) fixes the issue? | 02:58 |
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| ulaas | seb128, display_scsi_drives fixed it. (as it is a sata disk). however i have this strange volume name with one the drives "ILO%16%06%3FN%3FC" | 03:03 |
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| seb128 | ulaas: lshal | grep ILO ? | 03:03 |
| ulaas | volume.policy.desired_mount_point = 'ILO?N?C' (string) | 03:04 |
| ulaas | info.product = 'ILO?N?C' (string) | 03:04 |
| ulaas | volume.label = 'ILO?N?C' (string) | 03:04 |
| ulaas | should i check the label? | 03:04 |
| seb128 | yep | 03:05 |
| seb128 | so you have 2 bugs | 03:05 |
| seb128 | one beeing the default setting of the gconf keys | 03:05 |
| seb128 | feel free to bug on gnome-vfs2 package for that | 03:06 |
| ulaas | oki. | 03:07 |
| seb128 | and the second is either an HAL issue or NOTABUG | 03:07 |
| seb128 | if that's the label of you device, that's NOTABUG | 03:07 |
| ulaas | i llet you know. normally i dont set labels for my drives. but lll make sure | 03:07 |
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| ulaas | seb128, hmm some good info. i dont have a label. but even sudo tune2fs -L FAT32 /dev/sda2 i cannot label my drive. i can do it to /dev/hdc1 (PATA) with no problems. | 03:10 |
| ulaas | that looks like we have also may have an issue from sata_nv module to deep kernel stuff. | 03:12 |
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| ulaas | seb128, arghh i got Ooops while selecting the package. hehe filed a bug for the oops. i have filed a bug for a bug. thats cool | 03:18 |
| seb128 | :) | 03:19 |
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| Kamion | Kinnison: yes? (only here briefly) | 03:43 |
| simira | Kamion: are you anywhere near Tollef? | 03:43 |
| Kinnison | Kamion: I was just gonna say that a d-i end-to-end was working | 03:43 |
| Kinnison | Kamion: I.E. I uploaded a source to staging, it was accepted, built, binaries accepted, and the raw-installer unpacked correctly | 03:43 |
| Kamion | simira: no, I'm at home | 03:44 |
| Kamion | Kinnison: cool | 03:44 |
| Kinnison | Kamion: currently having a couple of NEW related hiccoughs on other packages, probably to do with being out of sync | 03:45 |
| Kinnison | Kamion: other than that, things are really looking good | 03:45 |
| siretart | are we there yet? ;) | 03:56 |
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| siretart | waaah | 04:01 |
| Kinnison | Treenaks: Use of the conveyer has always been more of an art than a science | 04:03 |
| Treenaks | It has never been tested .. succesfully | 04:03 |
| Kinnison | gorignak | 04:04 |
| Kinnison | gorignak | 04:04 |
| lamont__ | Kinnison: but what does a rock _want_? | 04:20 |
| === Kinnison giggles | ||
| Kinnison | ...maybe you're the plucky comic relief? | 04:22 |
| lamont__ | what is its motivation? | 04:23 |
| === lamont__ doesn't want to be the plucky comic relief... | ||
| === lamont__ considers daniels for the job of chief engineer. | ||
| === lamont__ looks around for someone with a dapper box willing to compile and test something for him | ||
| === lamont__ should really build a dapper box. | ||
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| Kinnison | lamont__: you could upload it to drescher as a test :-) (but it would bugger up our tests :-) | 04:30 |
| lamont__ | lol | 04:31 |
| lamont__ | Kinnison: nm - still fixing a bug sihg. | 04:32 |
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| simira | nh | 04:39 |
| ogra | nh ? | 04:39 |
| siretart | n! | 04:41 |
| lamont__ | ah, the subtle pronunciation guides... | 04:41 |
| siretart | :) | 04:42 |
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| ogra | hmm, has anybody worked with openssi here =# | 04:48 |
| ogra | ? | 04:48 |
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| Fitzsimmons | the topic mentions that if your initramfs is broken that "infinity" wants a copy. I think mine is broken. | 04:53 |
| Fitzsimmons | what's the next step? | 04:53 |
| hunger | Fitzsimmons: Send it to infinity:-) | 04:53 |
| Mithrandir | Fitzsimmons: put it somewhere and tell adconrad@ubuntu.com or file a bug and assign it to adconrad@ubuntu.com | 04:54 |
| hunger | Fitzsimmons: I think the best way to do that is to open a bugreport and assigning it to adam conrad. | 04:54 |
| Fitzsimmons | I want to confirm that we're talking about the same thing - it is the cause of the bootsplash corruption? | 04:54 |
| hunger | Any idea why apt keeps updating python-twisted for ever and ever? | 04:55 |
| Fitzsimmons | heh, I did a dist-upgrade and apt is convinced that it needs to continually update tons of stuff | 04:57 |
| hunger | Fitzsimmons: Even stuff that is installed fine at the version apt installs? | 04:57 |
| hunger | psusi had the same problem before (with python-twisted just like I do). I have no idea what to write a bugreport for:-) | 04:58 |
| Fitzsimmons | to be honest I need to keep my mouth shut before I start saying things - the pile of stuff itw ants to update is different than it was before =/ | 04:58 |
| hunger | Fitzsimmons: Hey, I do not mind that;-) | 04:59 |
| Fitzsimmons | good :D | 04:59 |
| Fitzsimmons | I think I'll need to go upstream with this gnome-panel problem | 04:59 |
| hunger | Fitzsimmons: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get upgrade installing python-twisted twice is really wierd IMHO. | 04:59 |
| hunger | Fitzsimmons: No errors are given, dpkg says everything is installed just fine. | 05:00 |
| fabbione | siretart: ping? | 05:00 |
| Fitzsimmons | hunger: fun! :P | 05:00 |
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| Kamion | hunger: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/29917 | 05:00 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29917 in synaptic "Synaptic wants to update an already updated package" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 05:00 |
| Kamion | mvo's subscribed to it already, he should be able to investigate | 05:01 |
| siretart | fabbione: pong | 05:01 |
| fabbione | siretart: mind if i upload xine-lib to fix sparc FTBFS? | 05:02 |
| siretart | fabbione: no, just go ahead. | 05:03 |
| hunger | Kamion: Thanks. I did not want to file a bug since I am not sure for which package:-( | 05:03 |
| siretart | fabbione: slomo wanted to import xine to our svn tomorrow. I don't see any problems | 05:03 |
| Kamion | hunger: better a bug report on the wrong package than no bug report at all | 05:03 |
| lamont__ | Kamion: speaking of bugs... did I remember to file my pkgsel/include= bug? | 05:06 |
| lamont__ | s/bug/wishlist/ | 05:06 |
| Kamion | yes | 05:06 |
| fabbione | siretart: ok thanks | 05:06 |
| Kamion | haven't had a chance to ponder it yet | 05:06 |
| lamont__ | Kamion: np | 05:06 |
| fabbione | siretart: it's a 3 lines change to debian/rules.. nothing more | 05:06 |
| siretart | cool | 05:06 |
| fabbione | siretart: upload done... | 05:14 |
| Fitzsimmons | hm, strange... I reinstalled ubuntu's version of gnome-panel and everything is working again... even though this exact same version of gnome-panel was experiencing difficulty last night | 05:15 |
| ogra | fabbione, whats the status of openssi in ubuntu ? will we have something in dapper+1 ? | 05:15 |
| fabbione | ogra: no idea.. you need to ask neuralis | 05:15 |
| ogra | will do | 05:16 |
| ogra | they have a intresting way of using local devices over the network, i would like to see if its adoptable for ltsp | 05:16 |
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| trulux | anyone experienced problems with last ptal upgrade? | 05:33 |
| trulux | hmm, pitti's changes are broken | 05:43 |
| mdke | o.o ubuntu-desktop is getting removed with the latest dist-upgrade | 06:00 |
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| Kamion | mdke: libpt/gnomemeeting/etc. changes I think, in progress by dholbach | 06:18 |
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| cassidy | On dapper, have you Pango API in devhelp ? (package libpango1.0-doc) | 06:40 |
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| LaserJock | Tm_T: pong | 06:54 |
| ulaas | what was the name for the fancy new network monitor applets name? | 06:57 |
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| ulaas | how can i remove a bug that i filed. i made a mistake. | 07:22 |
| mdke | ulaas, mark it rejected | 07:22 |
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| ulaas | mdke, for the glx problem that i filed a bug against gnome-screensaver. However the package was unlucky. (Wrong place wrong time). My issue is much moreprobably related with K7 kernel. I will test much more this time. | 07:27 |
| mdke | ulaas, you can change the package | 07:27 |
| mdke | i assume... | 07:28 |
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| mdke | ulaas, click "request fix in distribution", then select the correct source package | 07:28 |
| ulaas | mdke, i must be sure this time. will do when sure. thanx | 07:28 |
| ulaas | switched to a 386 kernel. so far so good. | 07:29 |
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| dholbach | Yay, seems like opal+ekiga go into main (as successors of openh323+gnomemeeting) and only stuff in universe will still depend on openh323 | 08:00 |
| Mithrandir | dholbach: are we there yet? I want to call simira! :-) | 08:01 |
| dholbach | opal and ekiga have to go through NEW | 08:02 |
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| dholbach | and promoted to main | 08:02 |
| Mithrandir | woo | 08:02 |
| dholbach | and some packages in universe have to be fixed with new pwlib/openh323 | 08:02 |
| dholbach | hey seb128 | 08:02 |
| seb128 | wb dholbach | 08:02 |
| desrt | anyone know where james has been lately? | 08:03 |
| seb128 | which one? | 08:04 |
| desrt | h. | 08:04 |
| ogra | in #bzr ? | 08:04 |
| ogra | or in #launchpad ? | 08:04 |
| seb128 | dunno for my part | 08:05 |
| desrt | neither of those places, either | 08:05 |
| === desrt hasn't seen him around for the past week or so | ||
| Kamion | desrt: as far as I know, he's been very busy with the archive migration to launchpad | 08:06 |
| desrt | ah. so he's to blame for that :) | 08:07 |
| Kinnison | Umm, jamesh is nothing to do with archive->launchpad | 08:07 |
| desrt | 'sup daniel | 08:08 |
| Kinnison | n'much tall dude | 08:08 |
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| Kamion | err, I thought desrt meant James Troup not James Henstridge | 08:09 |
| Kamion | oh, totally misread sorry | 08:09 |
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| dholbach | I'll call it the day and go packing - see you. | 08:33 |
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| thesaltydog | is anyone aware of main libglib-perl bug? | 09:06 |
| ogra | yes | 09:07 |
| thesaltydog | ciao oliver! | 09:07 |
| ogra | it requires a new upstream version which is not available in debian yet ... nobody came around to package it yet it seems | 09:07 |
| ogra | hi fabio | 09:07 |
| thesaltydog | have talk with muppet, last week... He said version 1.104 has been released. But it needs to be packaged. | 09:08 |
| ogra | yup | 09:08 |
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| ajmitch_ | desrt: jamesh has been in dunedin at LCA all week | 09:28 |
| desrt | ahh | 09:28 |
| desrt | right | 09:28 |
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| jordi | does janimo tend to be around this channel? | 10:19 |
| ogra | yup | 10:19 |
| ogra | and in -motu | 10:20 |
| jordi | hmm. unlucky he's not here. | 10:20 |
| jordi | does anyone know if he's involved in xfce upstream? | 10:20 |
| jordi | he requested the import of some xfce module to rosetta, but I don't know if he did it with upstream's permission | 10:21 |
| ogra | i think he does work with upstream, yes | 10:22 |
| ogra | crimsun would know i guess | 10:22 |
| jordi | crimsun: dude | 10:23 |
| jordi | crimsun: I need you | 10:23 |
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| floam | BenC: sorry I didn't get back to you | 10:39 |
| floam | BenC: I'm on sata_via | 10:39 |
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| ivoks | anyone? | 11:16 |
| Burgundavia | ivoks, what do you need? | 11:17 |
| ivoks | i'm trying to find out what's forster.ubuntu.com :) | 11:17 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, no idea | 11:17 |
| ivoks | i have reports that some ubuntu installations make connections to this host | 11:18 |
| ivoks | and i can't find any info about it :/ | 11:18 |
| Burgundavia | what sort of connection? | 11:21 |
| ivoks | i don't know | 11:21 |
| ivoks | i didn't get enough info | 11:21 |
| Burgundavia | all machines connect to ntp.ubuntu.com | 11:21 |
| ivoks | ah, that could be it | 11:22 |
| tseng | they arent the same ip | 11:22 |
| Burgundavia | that well, that scuppers that idea | 11:22 |
| ivoks | you stoled my line :) | 11:22 |
| ivoks | hm | 11:23 |
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| ivoks | it has only ports 80 and 21 open | 11:23 |
| ivoks | eh, 873 too | 11:25 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122632 <-- you know Malone is bad when they complain about it on the forums | 11:25 |
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| Lathiat | so, i sanyone else having really really bad udev issues? | 11:30 |
| ivoks | no... | 11:30 |
| Lathiat | like my d/ev/null ends up o-rwx, b44 isnt loaded, somethigns stoppign X from starting, ssh is saying the PRNG isn't seeded and essentially my laptop is fairly useless :) | 11:31 |
| ivoks | i'm having problems with forster :) | 11:31 |
| Lathiat | oh and ipw2200 loads but doesnt do anything | 11:31 |
| ivoks | strange... my works ok | 11:31 |
| ivoks | it's a mirror, AFAICT | 11:36 |
| ivoks | maybe update-manager? :) | 11:38 |
| ivoks | yup | 11:40 |
| ivoks | hr.archive.ubuntu.com is alias for forster | 11:40 |
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