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[12:10] <dholbach> good night guys
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[12:12] <slomo_> ulaas: pong
[12:12] <ulaas> slomo_, hi. do you have a finger on monodevelop?
[12:13] <slomo_> ulaas: partially, yes... why?
[12:13] <ulaas> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[12:14] <ulaas> if you dont install mozilla
[12:14] <ulaas> firefox should be enough i presume.
[12:14] <slomo_> yes, the current sourcepackage already has the correct change for firefox
[12:14] <slomo_> but it ftbfs because of mono 1.1.13 :/
[12:15] <ulaas> slomo_, oki.
[12:16] <slomo_> if you're interested you can provide a patch to fix the build... shouldn't be too hard but i don't have the time currently... but it's on my todo list ;)
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[12:19] <ulaas> you should see my todo list :)
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[12:42] <kagou> hi
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[12:43] <localuser> There seems to be a bug, unless it is intentional
[12:43] <localuser> if you first install the server version of ubuntu
[12:43] <localuser> then do all updates, etc
[12:44] <localuser> then try to install ubuntu-desktop
[12:44] <localuser> you will not get the nice splash bootup screen
[12:44] <localuser> is this on purpose???!?!?!?
[12:45] <ogra> yes#
[12:46] <localuser> yes, that is intentional?
[12:46] <ogra> the server has no usplash installed 
[12:46] <localuser> ogra, then how can i install it?
[12:46] <localuser> i know, but i insdtalled ubuntu-desktop package on top of server
[12:46] <AlinuxOS> hello :)
[12:46] <localuser> what is the package, and how to setup if i initially did a server install /
[12:46] <AlinuxOS> alive ubuntu gurus ?
[12:46] <AlinuxOS> :)
[12:47] <localuser> ogra, :-(
[12:47] <ogra> yes, but you didnt recreated the initramfs after you installed usplash 
[12:47] <localuser> ogra, ok then is there some auto procedure to do this?
[12:47] <ogra> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-imgae-`uname -r`
[12:47] <ogra> *image
[12:47] <localuser> ogra, nice!!!!
[12:47] <localuser> ogra, you fscking rule...
[12:49] <AlinuxOS> http://alinuxos.no-ip.org/ubuntu-geo.png :)
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[12:50] <localuser> ogra, ok thanks man -- one other kernel bug though -- i see message like "base(0xf0000000) not aligned on a size(0x80000000)" when loggin in with GDM
[12:50] <localuser> but logging in with KDM works fine
[12:50] <ogra> hmm, no idea
[12:51] <localuser> that is in /var/log/messages -- googled around and supposed to be fixed in 2.6.6 -- yet i see it
[12:51] <localuser> ill file upstream...
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[01:33] <BenC> anyone here have 1Gig of ram on x86 and want to test a kernel for me?
[01:35] <Tm_T> I do have
[01:35] <Tm_T> not sure if I like to test ;)
[01:35] <BenC> are you running dapper?
[01:35] <Tm_T> sure
[01:36] <BenC> it's going to just be linux-image-2.6.15-14 + one patch
[01:36] <BenC> no danger of data loss
[01:36] <BenC> are you running 386, 686 or k7 variant?
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[01:36] <Tm_T> k7
[01:37] <BenC> ok, can you give me 10 minutes to compile it?
[01:37] <Tm_T> BenC: "no danger of data loss" you mean I'm losing all my porn.. eeh, document movies?!
[01:37] <Tm_T> BenC: sure
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[01:37] <BenC> hehe
[01:37] <BenC> great, thanks
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[01:42] <Tm_T> BenC: aye, slap me when you're ready (so I know to get off from you)
[01:42] <BenC> ok
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[01:56] <Tm_T> BenC: 10 your minutes... ;)
[01:56] <ogra> BenC, btw, i think you broke the snd_powermac module in -14, cat /dev/sndstat only shows the timer, even if all mods are loaded
[01:57] <BenC> Tm_T: it's almost done
[01:57] <BenC> ogra: Fixed already
[01:57] <Tm_T> BenC: jolly good indeed :)
[01:57] <ogra> oh, great :)
[01:57] <ogra> youre to fast
[01:58] <BenC> actually, I break things intentionally, and have the fixed real fast so it looks like I'm doing real work
[01:58] <BenC> by dapper release I'll have reverted all my subtle breakage
[01:59] <ogra> lol
[01:59] <Tm_T> hehe
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[02:16] <BenC> Tm_T: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/test-nohighmem-1g/
[02:18] <Tm_T> BenC: downloading ty
[02:18] <BenC> let me know when you've had a chance to boot it and we can see if it worked (other than not failing to boot)
[02:19] <Tm_T> hehe
[02:20] <Tm_T> I'll boot as soon it's installed
[02:20] <BenC> are you on the machine you are testing?
[02:21] <Tm_T> yes
[02:21] <BenC> ok, I'll just wait for your reconnect cycle then :)
[02:21] <Tm_T> hmm, no, this irssi is not running on my pc ;)
[02:23] <BenC> ah, ok
[02:23] <Tm_T> but I'll inform you as soon as possible
[02:24] <Tm_T> installing
[02:27] <Tm_T> BenC: ok, now rebooting, see you in the other side (or not) ;)
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[02:33] <Tm_T> BenC: alo
[02:33] <BenC> booted ok?
[02:33] <Tm_T> xorg failed to get itself up
[02:33] <Tm_T> otherwise yes
[02:34] <BenC> are you still booted with it?
[02:34] <Tm_T> yes
[02:34] <Tm_T> what you wan't me to check?
[02:34] <BenC> if so, can you do "dmesg | mail -s highmem-dmesg bcollins@ubuntu.com" ?
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[02:35] <MrRio> there's a typo in synaptic for dapper, "Oficially supported" should read "Officially Supported"
[02:35] <Burgwork> MrRio, please report a bug
[02:35] <MrRio> im just checking to make sure it isnt already there now
[02:36] <Tm_T> BenC: done
[02:36] <Tm_T> BenC: anything else?
[02:36] <BenC> thanks!
[02:36] <Tm_T> np :)
[02:37] <BenC>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be nice too
[02:37] <Tm_T> any ideas why eth0 need manual ifdown & ifup after boot?
[02:37] <BenC> other than that, no
[02:37] <Burgwork> MrRio, better to file more bugs than less
[02:37] <BenC> hmm, no idea about that either
[02:38] <Tm_T> BenC: aye, I'll cat xorg log
[02:38] <MrRio> Burgwork: yeah, true
[02:38] <BenC> Tm_T: you've been a bug help, thanks. Saved me from having to bug 2x512Meg dimms to test this myself :)
[02:39] <BenC> s/bug/big/
[02:39] <Tm_T> bug help indeed ;)
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[02:40] <Tm_T> BenC: ok, network issue is like this, in boot, about in first ten lines, comes error message saying something about ifup's postfix and readonly filesystem
[02:41] <BenC> ah, that's an initscript issue
[02:41] <BenC> not kernel related
[02:41] <lamont__> Tm_T: and fixed in 2.2.8-8
[02:41] <Tm_T> manual ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 brings eth0 alive
[02:42] <Tm_T> lamont__: hmm, ok I'll check updates (did it ~100 times today, as usual)
[02:42] <Tm_T> thanks :)
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[02:42] <LaserJock> doko: ping?
[02:44] <Tm_T> lamont__: 2.2.8-8 of what package?
[02:44] <MrRio> i think the new update bubble is too 'jaggy'
[02:44] <Tm_T> aah postfix
[02:44] <MrRio> can i put that in as a bug
[02:45] <Tm_T> lamont__: ah I see, 2.2.8-6 here, looks like slow mirrors or something
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[02:45] <MrRio> It looks ok-ish i guess, but much worse because it doesnt blend into its background and has horrible jaggy edges
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[02:46] <Burgwork> MrRio, already being fixed by the upstream developers
[02:47] <MrRio> Burgwork: great, where can I find the patch for that?
[02:47] <Burgwork> MrRio, wait
[02:47] <Burgwork> umm, wait, it should already be in dapper
[02:47] <Tm_T> aye, that's what I heard
[02:48] <Tm_T> BenC: ok, what I do now? uninstall that "new" kernel and install old back or wait fixes?
[02:49] <BenC> apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.15-14-k7
[02:49] <Tm_T> hmm, that does downgrade?
[02:50] <BenC> well, it's the same package name as the current dapper, so it just replaces
[02:50] <Tm_T> I rarely downgrade things, I'll try
[02:50] <lamont__> Tm_T: actually, I need to request the sync from debian...
[02:50] <Tm_T> lamont__: ok :)
[02:51] <Tm_T> good to know it's fixed anyway ;)
[02:52] <Tm_T> BenC: hehe, complains about "cannot be downloaded"
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[02:54] <lamont__> Tm_T: let me guess.. /usr is on a diff partition than /?
[02:54] <MrRio> being proper dumb here, but if i was going to make a patch to synaptic, which cvs would i use? or would i do it against the latest source package from https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/synaptic
[02:55] <Tm_T> lamont__: nope, but that package that benc gave has different (higher version)name than what is in repository
[02:55] <MrRio> it needs to be fixed here and not upstream because its a ubuntu specific typo
[02:55] <Tm_T> so I did manual downgrade (dpkg -i /var/cache...)
[02:56] <Tm_T> BenC: ok, rebooting, I'll let you know how this goes (haven't booted yet to repo -14 kernel)
[02:57] <Amaranth> MrRio: If you're making the patch for ubuntu's synaptic I'd guess the source package is best.
[02:58] <BenC> Tm_T: I still have't gotten your emails
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[03:24] <Tm_T> BenC: sounds bad
[03:26] <MrRio> night
[03:28] <Tm_T> BenC: let me guess, no way to look if it's sent or not
[03:33] <BenC> Tm_T: look in /var/spool/exim4/ or whatever it is
[03:33] <Tm_T> ok
[03:34] <Tm_T> BenC: not existing anyexim ;(
[03:34] <Tm_T> humm, sounds bad
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[04:12] <BenC> Tm_T: the mail program had to put it somewhere
[04:12] <BenC> Tm_T: check for dead.letter or something
[04:12] <BenC> you should be able to grab /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log still (Xorg.1.conf might have moved to Xorg.1.log or something)
[04:13] <BenC> Tm_T: grep highmem /var/log/kern.log if you could
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[05:54] <Fitzsimmons> hello.
[05:56] <LaserJock> hi
[05:57] <Fitzsimmons> I did a dist-upgrade to dapper and I might be interested in squashing bugs, but ignore me for a while, as I figure out whether it is an ubuntu problem or a gnome problem :)
[06:03] <LaserJock> Fitzsimmons: have you tried looking on Malone?
[06:04] <Fitzsimmons> LaserJock: I have
[06:04] <Fitzsimmons> LaserJock: I haven't checked upstream yet, but I did a CVS build of gnome-panel (which is what I'm having issues with) and it seems to be having the same behaivour
[06:05] <Fitzsimmons> I'm going to drop back to a 2.12 verison and see what it is like
[06:06] <LaserJock> so did you check at bugzilla.gnome.org?
[06:06] <Fitzsimmons> that's what I meant when I said I hadn't checked upstream
[06:06] <LaserJock> ah
[06:07] <Fitzsimmons> doesn't appear to be anything on first sight though
[06:10] <Fitzsimmons> haha different problem just as useless
[06:10] <Fitzsimmons> I'll investigate this tomorrow
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[06:14] <Tm_T> argh
[06:14] <Tm_T> packages python-twisted python2.4-twisted doesn't install properly
[06:17] <LaserJock> how so?
[06:18] <Tm_T> every time I run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade (as root) it tries upgrade those two... with same package
[06:18] <Tm_T> shortly counted have done it now... 56 times
[06:18] <LaserJock> did you have a local install of the packages?
[06:19] <Tm_T> afaik no
[06:19] <Tm_T> I even tried uninstall and reinstall, no help
[06:20] <LaserJock> that's weird
[06:21] <Tm_T> you tell me! :)
[06:21] <Tm_T> nothing but annoying (have to press "n" many many times per hour)
[06:21] <LaserJock> I'll install them and see if I get it too
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[06:23] <LaserJock> Tm_T: yeah, I got it too
[06:24] <Tm_T> thanks
[06:24] <LaserJock> what in the world
[06:24] <Tm_T> now if I just know why pypanel doesn't work
[06:25] <LaserJock> it doesn't?
[06:25] <Tm_T> LaserJock: you doesn't happen to be python wizard?
[06:25] <Tm_T> nope
[06:25] <LaserJock> my pypanel works, and no, I'm not a wizard. I know enough to get by in my work
[06:26] <Tm_T> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/526878
[06:26] <Tm_T> both with ubuntu package and from sources
[06:28] <Tm_T> if you have _any_ idea how to fix it, please tell
[06:28] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm running it right now and it's ok
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[06:29] <Tm_T> phuuh :(
[06:29] <LaserJock> do you have the stock .pypanelrc ?
[06:30] <Tm_T> yes
[06:30] <Tm_T> afaik
[06:30] <Tm_T> I can remove it for test
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[06:30] <LaserJock> you might try that
[06:31] <Tm_T> doesn't help
[06:33] <LaserJock> It look like the problem is with python-xlib, what version do you have?
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[06:34] <Tm_T> python-xlib/unknown uptodate 0.12-5
[06:40] <LaserJock> dude, I just don't know :(
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[07:07] <floam> BenC: hey, remember me? I was the guy complaining about the broken ATAPI stuff
[07:07] <floam> BenC: just now I built my own 2.6.16-rc1-mm3 and the drive magically works
[07:08] <floam> I'm very happy you're suspicions of the drive being busted aren't correct :)
[07:08] <floam> your
[07:11] <BenC> what driver is it working with?
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[07:17] <BenC> floam: is it sata_promise?
[07:34] <floam> BenC: sata_via
[07:34] <floam> oh, you're gone
[07:34] <floam> darn
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[08:01] <zakame> ls
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[09:43] <simira> hjelp
[09:43] <simira> all teksten er borte...
[09:43] <simira> #wrong
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[09:58] <dholbach> hello!
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[10:07] <mpt> hi dholbach 
[10:08] <dholbach> hellas mpt
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[10:43] <Tm_T> LaserJock_away: ping
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[10:44] <ajmitch> evening mpt_ 
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[11:05] <stockholm> ogra: ping
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[11:24] <siretart> wow. how can the kernel interfere with WOL ability?
[11:24] <siretart> wol used to work during hoary, not in breezy, but again with current dapper. I thought it was a hardware/local config problem, though..
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[11:26] <dholbach> hey jinty
[11:26] <jinty> hey dholbach
[11:27] <jinty> hows it going over there?
[11:27] <dholbach> jinty: how is it going? are you in spain already?
[11:27] <dholbach> :-)
[11:27] <dholbach> nicely, thanks :-)
[11:27] <jinty> here raining:(
[11:27] <jinty> but tomorrow /me -> South africa
[11:28] <dholbach> Mr. Jetsetter :-)
[11:28] <jinty> visit the floks and all
[11:28] <dholbach> -6C in Trier, gorgeous blue sky, sun shining :)
[11:28] <jinty> folks
[11:28] <jinty> here raining, cold, and we dont have any heating
[11:29] <dholbach> GAR! :/
[11:29] <jinty> or windows that actually close
[11:29] <jinty> cold ~5degC
[11:31] <dholbach> did you have any time off?
[11:32] <jinty> not yet, there was a bit of an emergency with the schooltool server and work to finish before I leave
[11:32] <jinty> so I guess I work today/tomorrow
[11:33] <jinty> and you? why not outside enjoying the sun?
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[11:36] <dholbach> jinty: need to work today - I'll look into the gnome 2.13.90 tarballs and package some a11y related software, i guess :)
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[11:37] <jinty> good luck with that
[11:37] <dholbach> Thanks. :-)
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[11:46] <mvo> hi glatzor 
[11:49] <glatzor> hi mvo
[11:50] <glatzor> No weekend for you? :)
[11:50] <mvo> glatzor: we ubuntu guys never sleep
[11:50] <mvo> :P
[11:51] <ajmitch> mvo: we don't?
[11:51] <glatzor> My alert box module is nearly finished
[11:51] <mvo> ajmitch: shhhh, don't give away your secret
[11:51] <mvo> glatzor: great to hear!
[11:52] <glatzor> but there is a problem with file bug report issue:
[11:53] <Mithrandir> mvo: apt breaks fairly hard if you have too many conffiles in a package.
[11:53] <glatzor> https://launchpad.net/products/gdebi/+filebug
[11:53] <Mithrandir> mvo: fails to parse the dpkg status file.
[11:53] <glatzor> if you are not logged in you the showed web page of malone does not give very much information to the user
[11:54] <mvo> Mithrandir: we talk about that a while ago, it does for any tag that is too big. can I see your conflicts line somewhere?
[11:54] <fabbione> mvo: apt-get sucks :)
[11:54] <mvo> glatzor: right
[11:54] <mvo> fabbione: I found that out the hard way :P
[11:54] <fabbione> mvo: i have a nice bug for you to fix at the spring
[11:54] <fabbione> sprint
[11:55] <stockholm> is mdz on on weekends?
[11:56] <mvo> fabbione: is it reported already? or a new one?
[11:56] <fabbione> mvo: no idea.. basically installing a package with tons of /etc/apache2/.svn files makes apt-get update cry out loud
[11:57] <fabbione> and the dpkg status file becomes somehow corrupted
[11:57] <mvo> then don't do that :P
[11:57] <fabbione> without the .svn is ok
[11:57] <mvo> but sure, I will have a look
[11:57] <fabbione> i am not doing it, but it is still a bug :)
[11:57] <fabbione> i will show it to you
[11:57] <fabbione> we have a simple test case here
[11:58] <Mithrandir> mvo: not conflicts.   conffiles.  even apt-cache refuses to work.
[11:59] <Mithrandir> mvo: I also think we managed to confuse it when a package conflicted with itself through a semi-virtual package, or something, but I'd have to track that down further
[12:00] <mvo> Mithrandir: is the package that breaks apt available somewhere? so that I can have a look?
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[12:01] <Mithrandir> mvo: uhm, no, not really.  But I could make you one
[12:01] <mvo> Mithrandir: that would be nice (but can wait for the sprint)
[12:01] <Mithrandir> yup
[12:03] <mvo> Mithrandir: I need to start packing for tomorrow I guess
[12:04] <mvo> just got a report that after a dist-upgrade to dapper, the system dosn't boot anymore with: ALERT: /dev/hda8 does not exist. Dropping to a shell
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[12:08] <fabbione> i blame udev/initramfs
[12:08] <pitti> hey fabbione 
[12:09] <fabbione> hey pitti
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[12:20] <fabbione> slomo, siretart: ping?
[12:20] <siretart> fabbione: pong
[12:20] <siretart> fabbione: sorry, joerg is quite busy these days re: igor :(
[12:21] <slomo> fabbione: pong
[12:21] <fabbione> guys, please fix xine-lib FTBFS on sparc
[12:21] <fabbione> it didn't build for quite sometime and some stuff now build-dep on it
[12:22] <siretart> fabbione: can you provide us access to a sparc machine?
[12:22] <fabbione> siretart: not to mine.. sorry.
[12:22] <siretart> ok. I'll bug joerg again
[12:22] <fabbione> clearly the failure has been introduced to one of the changes you did
[12:23] <fabbione> so if you can try to spot it and give me test pkgs, i can test build them
[12:23] <fabbione> i just don't have the time to reconstruct the lib history to see what you have done to it
[12:23] <slomo> most probably caused by the update to 1.1.0 from 1.0.1
[12:24] <fabbione> slomo: did you check if it did build in debian?
[12:24] <fabbione> for sparc i mean
[12:24] <fabbione> to cross check if it is an ubuntu change or just upstream
[12:25] <fabbione> or perhpaps debian has a patch?
[12:25] <siretart> fabbione: siggi (the debian maintainer) is going to upload 1.1.1 soon. I'm interested if that's gonna build in debian/sparc
[12:25] <fabbione> siretart: are you aware of UVF?
[12:25] <fabbione> xine-lib is in main
[12:25] <siretart> fabbione: I am aware. but I think the changes from 1.0.1 to 1.1.0 are bigger than 1.1.0 (which we currently have) to 1.1.1
[12:25] <siretart> fabbione: so this would indicate a regression upstream
[12:26] <fabbione> 1.0.1-1.6 (sparc) (latest build at Jan 11 22:25: maybe-successful)
[12:26] <fabbione> no
[12:26] <siretart> oh
[12:26] <siretart> then I confused something. sorry
[12:26] <fabbione> debian doesn't have 1.1.0
[12:26] <siretart> fabbione: not yet. it is still sitting in cvs :/
[12:26] <fabbione> ok
[12:27] <fabbione> siretart: let's get igor back asap
[12:27] <slomo> fabbione, siretart: we have 1.1.1 in dapper
[12:27] <siretart> slomo: oh. that was my confusion.
[12:27] <fabbione> meh
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[12:40] <fabbione> hmmm
[12:40] <fabbione> slomo, siretart: ok, first strange thing is the mad plugin is still there somehow
[12:41] <fabbione> at least configure enables the local one
[12:41] <fabbione> and according to your changelog it should be disabled
[12:43] <fabbione> IPv6 is disabled
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[12:44] <fabbione> hecking for mad... checking mad.h usability... no
[12:44] <fabbione> checking mad.h presence... no
[12:44] <fabbione> checking for mad.h... no
[12:44] <fabbione> *** no usable version of libmad found, using internal copy ***
[12:44] <fabbione> ^^^
[12:44] <fabbione> slomo: 
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[12:55] <slomo> fabbione: xine-lib has no support for mad anymore... and no internal version of mad is in the sources so don't worry
[12:55] <fabbione> ok
[12:56] <fabbione> doko: ping?
[12:56] <fabbione> doko: what was the gcc option to keep the generate .s around?
[12:56] <slomo> fabbione: i was just too lazy to remove the check from configure.in
[12:56] <fabbione> slomo: ok
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[12:57] <fabbione> slomo: btw... i think the problem with xine-lib goes a bit more down than just xine code
[12:57] <fabbione> i need to understand if actually gcc is doing the right think
[12:58] <mdke> anyone else having trouble with ifup/down lately?
[12:58] <mdke> I can't ifup any interfaces, and lo is down too
[12:58] <Mithrandir> yes, it's being silly and thinks the interface is up when the dhcp client fails.
[12:58] <mdke> /etc/network/interfaces:29: interface eth1 declared allow-auto twice
[12:58] <mdke> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[12:59] <fabbione> mdke: yeah i saw that too
[12:59] <mdke> Mithrandir, ok, is there a bug open do you know?
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[12:59] <fabbione> mdke: if by monday you will not see Keybuk online anymore, there might be the option that somebody did use a slightly too big reminder
[12:59] <Mithrandir> mdke: not that I know of.
[01:00] <mdke> fabbione, i guess if everyone is seeing it, it'll get fixed without a bug report :)
[01:00] <fabbione> mdke: well i did see it once... fixed it and so on..
[01:00] <mdke> there are quite a few bugs open i think
[01:01] <siretart> mdke: the fix was to remove the redundand 'auto' line from /etc/network/interfaces. at least for me
[01:02] <mdke> siretart, was your "lo" down too?
[01:02] <doko> fabbione: -save-temps
[01:03] <siretart> mdke: yes
[01:03] <fabbione> doko: there was also a verbose asm output.. that adds comments to each asm line to the respective C line of code..
[01:03] <fabbione> doko: do you remember that one too?
[01:03] <doko> no
[01:04] <doko> fabbione: maybe -fverbose-asm ?
[01:04] <mdke> siretart, ah I see the second one, it was way down. Thanks :) It's bug 29654, amongst others i think
[01:04] <Ubugtu> malone bug 29654 in ifupdown "auto eth1 duplicated in /etc/network/interfaces by upgrade" [Major,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/29654
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[01:05] <fabbione> slomo: i think i know what is wrong with xine-lib and i know who to beg for a fix :)
[01:05] <fabbione> slomo: case wants that the same author of that code is the main sparc kernel developer :)
[01:09] <siretart> fabbione: wow :)
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[01:19] <ulaas> hi. glx issues with nvidia. (incredibly slow) k7 kernel. any ideas?
[01:19] <Treenaks> ulaas: yes, ask on #ubuntu
[01:20] <Treenaks> :)
[01:20] <Treenaks> That's the support channel
[01:20] <ulaas> sure but i am on dapper and i want to help
[01:21] <ulaas> i am not asking for help. i want to report to people interested ;)
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[01:23] <Mithrandir> hmm, which is the set of kerberos libraries we ended up with?  Heimdal or kerberos?
[01:24] <torkel> MIT I think
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[01:26] <mdke> ulaas, if no one responds, don't forget to file a bug
[01:27] <ulaas> mdke, you read my mind ;)
[01:27] <fabbione> doko: somehow gcc-4 is generating bad asm on sparc for xine-lib
[01:27] <fabbione> doko: {standard input}:218: Error: Illegal operands: There are only 32 f registers; [0-31] 
[01:27] <fabbione> looking at that line:
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[01:28] <fabbione>         ldd     [%g1] , %f40     ! ref
[01:28] <fabbione> probably it's only a missing option calling gcc?
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[01:38] <fabbione> ohhh hmm
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[01:47] <fabbione> siretart: ayeeeee.. it seems to be a gcc bug, or  a missing CFLAG in libmpeg2. I am testing a workaround, but we want the proper fix
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[02:29] <ulaas> i used to see my mounts in nautilus (cvs) and places. i had a fresh flight 3 install. i dont have them any more...
[02:31] <ulaas> cvs/vfs
[02:32] <seb128> file a bug
[02:32] <seb128> include what version you use, what computer does list, what fstab has, what mount returns etc
[02:32] <seb128> computer=computer:///
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[02:34] <ulaas> seb128, should i file it under nautilus or gnome-vfs?
[02:34] <seb128> gnome-vfs
[02:34] <seb128> but to be honest I doubt that's a GNOME bug
[02:34] <seb128> maybe hal
[02:34] <seb128> or maybe not a bug
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[02:35] <seb128> does "gnomevfs-ls computer:///" list them?
[02:35] <ulaas> seb128, thats why i wanted to ask first. lemme investigate more first. if no info i will file a bug.
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[02:38] <seb128> ulaas: ?
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[02:44] <smurf> doko_: ping
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[02:45] <ulaas> seb128, sorry i got a call. no results. only cdrom filesystem and floppy.
[02:45] <doko_> smurf: pong
[02:45] <smurf> doko twisted2.4-conch depends on twisted, not twisted-core. Intentional?
[02:45] <seb128> ulaas: what kind of drive is mounted and not listed?
[02:45] <doko_> fabbione: works with 3.4 or 4.1? isntall gcj-4.1 for the latter
[02:46] <doko_> smurf: there should be an update for twisted-conch
[02:46] <ulaas> seb128, i ve mounted an ntfs partition and a vfat. 
[02:47] <Kinnison> Kamion: ping?
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[02:47] <seb128> ulaas: are they listed by fstab?
[02:47] <smurf> doko_: meaning I'll have to wait a few hours?
[02:48] <ulaas> seb128, i ve mounted them manually.
[02:48] <ulaas> seb128, yes in fstab
[02:48] <seb128> are they listed by /etc/mtab?
[02:49] <Kinnison> FYI you guys, the soyuz deployment tests are going very well
[02:49] <ulaas> seb128, they are 
[02:49] <ulaas> /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs rw,nls=utf8,uid=1000 0 0
[02:49] <ulaas> /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 vfat rw,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000 0 0
[02:49] <seb128> does that make a different if you mount them to /mnt instead of /media ?
[02:49] <seb128> Kinnison: nice
[02:52] <ulaas> seb128, no
[02:52] <seb128> ulaas: does "killall gnome-vfs-daemon" change something? is hal running?
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[02:56] <ulaas> seb128, i guess hal is ok. (device manager is running). killall just respawns :) nothing good happens.
[02:58] <seb128> ulaas: does setting /system/storage/display_internal_hard_drives with gconf-editor (and restarting gnome-vfs-daemon again) fixes the issue?
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[03:03] <ulaas> seb128, display_scsi_drives fixed it. (as it is a sata disk). however i have this strange volume name with one the drives "ILO%16%06%3FN%3FC"
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[03:03] <seb128> ulaas: lshal | grep ILO ?
[03:04] <ulaas>  volume.policy.desired_mount_point = 'ILO?N?C'  (string)
[03:04] <ulaas>   info.product = 'ILO?N?C'  (string)
[03:04] <ulaas>   volume.label = 'ILO?N?C'  (string)
[03:04] <ulaas> should i check the label?
[03:05] <seb128> yep
[03:05] <seb128> so you have 2 bugs
[03:05] <seb128> one beeing the default setting of the gconf keys
[03:06] <seb128> feel free to bug on gnome-vfs2 package for that
[03:07] <ulaas> oki.
[03:07] <seb128> and the second is either an HAL issue or NOTABUG
[03:07] <seb128> if that's the label of you device, that's NOTABUG
[03:07] <ulaas> i llet you know. normally i dont set labels for my drives. but lll make sure
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[03:10] <ulaas> seb128, hmm some good info. i dont have a label. but even sudo tune2fs -L FAT32 /dev/sda2 i cannot label my drive. i can do it to /dev/hdc1 (PATA) with no problems.
[03:12] <ulaas> that looks like we have also may have an issue from sata_nv module to deep kernel stuff.
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[03:18] <ulaas> seb128, arghh i got Ooops while selecting the package. hehe filed a bug for the oops. i have filed a bug for a bug. thats cool
[03:19] <seb128> :)
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[03:43] <Kamion> Kinnison: yes? (only here briefly)
[03:43] <simira> Kamion: are you anywhere near Tollef?
[03:43] <Kinnison> Kamion: I was just gonna say that a d-i end-to-end was working
[03:43] <Kinnison> Kamion: I.E. I uploaded a source to staging, it was accepted, built, binaries accepted, and the raw-installer unpacked correctly
[03:44] <Kamion> simira: no, I'm at home
[03:44] <Kamion> Kinnison: cool
[03:45] <Kinnison> Kamion: currently having a couple of NEW related hiccoughs on other packages, probably to do with being out of sync
[03:45] <Kinnison> Kamion: other than that, things are really looking good
[03:56] <siretart> are we there yet? ;)
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[04:01] <siretart> waaah
[04:03] <Kinnison> Treenaks: Use of the conveyer has always been more of an art than a science
[04:03] <Treenaks> It has never been tested .. succesfully
[04:04] <Kinnison> gorignak
[04:04] <Kinnison> gorignak
[04:20] <lamont__> Kinnison: but what does a rock _want_?
=== Kinnison giggles
[04:22] <Kinnison> ...maybe you're the plucky comic relief?
[04:23] <lamont__> what is its motivation?
=== lamont__ doesn't want to be the plucky comic relief...
=== lamont__ considers daniels for the job of chief engineer.
=== lamont__ looks around for someone with a dapper box willing to compile and test something for him
=== lamont__ should really build a dapper box.
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[04:30] <Kinnison> lamont__: you could upload it to drescher as a test :-) (but it would bugger up our tests :-)
[04:31] <lamont__> lol
[04:32] <lamont__> Kinnison: nm - still fixing a bug sihg.
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[04:39] <simira>  nh
[04:39] <ogra> nh ?
[04:41] <siretart> n!
[04:41] <lamont__> ah, the subtle pronunciation guides...
[04:42] <siretart> :)
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[04:48] <ogra> hmm, has anybody worked with openssi here =#
[04:48] <ogra> ?
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[04:53] <Fitzsimmons> the topic mentions that if your initramfs is broken that "infinity" wants a copy.  I think mine is broken.
[04:53] <Fitzsimmons> what's the next step?
[04:53] <hunger> Fitzsimmons: Send it to infinity:-)
[04:54] <Mithrandir> Fitzsimmons: put it somewhere and tell adconrad@ubuntu.com or file a bug and assign it to adconrad@ubuntu.com
[04:54] <hunger> Fitzsimmons: I think the best way to do that is to open a bugreport and assigning it to adam conrad.
[04:54] <Fitzsimmons> I want to confirm that we're talking about the same thing - it is the cause of the bootsplash corruption?
[04:55] <hunger> Any idea why apt keeps updating python-twisted for ever and ever?
[04:57] <Fitzsimmons> heh, I did a dist-upgrade and apt is convinced that it needs to continually update tons of stuff
[04:57] <hunger> Fitzsimmons: Even stuff that is installed fine at the version apt installs?
[04:58] <hunger> psusi had the same problem before (with python-twisted just like I do). I have no idea what to write a bugreport for:-)
[04:58] <Fitzsimmons> to be honest I need to keep my mouth shut before I start saying things - the pile of stuff itw ants to update is different than it was before =/
[04:59] <hunger> Fitzsimmons: Hey, I do not mind that;-)
[04:59] <Fitzsimmons> good :D
[04:59] <Fitzsimmons> I think I'll need to go upstream with this gnome-panel problem
[04:59] <hunger> Fitzsimmons: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get upgrade installing python-twisted twice is really wierd IMHO.
[05:00] <hunger> Fitzsimmons: No errors are given, dpkg says everything is installed just fine.
[05:00] <fabbione> siretart: ping?
[05:00] <Fitzsimmons> hunger: fun! :P
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[05:00] <Kamion> hunger: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/29917
[05:00] <Ubugtu> malone bug 29917 in synaptic "Synaptic wants to update an already updated package" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[05:01] <Kamion> mvo's subscribed to it already, he should be able to investigate
[05:01] <siretart> fabbione: pong
[05:02] <fabbione> siretart: mind if i upload xine-lib to fix sparc FTBFS?
[05:03] <siretart> fabbione: no, just go ahead.
[05:03] <hunger> Kamion: Thanks. I did not want to file a bug since I am not sure for which package:-(
[05:03] <siretart> fabbione: slomo wanted to import xine to our svn tomorrow. I don't see any problems
[05:03] <Kamion> hunger: better a bug report on the wrong package than no bug report at all
[05:06] <lamont__> Kamion: speaking of bugs... did I remember to file my pkgsel/include= bug?
[05:06] <lamont__> s/bug/wishlist/
[05:06] <Kamion> yes
[05:06] <fabbione> siretart: ok thanks
[05:06] <Kamion> haven't had a chance to ponder it yet
[05:06] <lamont__> Kamion: np
[05:06] <fabbione> siretart: it's a 3 lines change to debian/rules.. nothing more
[05:06] <siretart> cool
[05:14] <fabbione> siretart: upload done...
[05:15] <Fitzsimmons> hm, strange... I reinstalled ubuntu's version of gnome-panel and everything is working again... even though this exact same version of gnome-panel was experiencing difficulty last night
[05:15] <ogra> fabbione, whats the status of openssi in ubuntu ? will we have something in dapper+1 ?
[05:15] <fabbione> ogra: no idea.. you need to ask neuralis 
[05:16] <ogra> will do
[05:16] <ogra> they have a intresting way of using local devices over the network, i would like to see if its adoptable for ltsp
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[05:33] <trulux> anyone experienced problems with last ptal upgrade?
[05:43] <trulux> hmm, pitti's changes are broken
[06:00] <mdke> o.o ubuntu-desktop is getting removed with the latest dist-upgrade
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[06:18] <Kamion> mdke: libpt/gnomemeeting/etc. changes I think, in progress by dholbach
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[06:40] <cassidy> On dapper, have you Pango API in devhelp ? (package libpango1.0-doc)
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[06:54] <LaserJock> Tm_T: pong
[06:57] <ulaas> what was the name for the fancy new network monitor applets name?
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[07:22] <ulaas> how can i remove a bug that i filed. i made a mistake.
[07:22] <mdke> ulaas, mark it rejected
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[07:27] <ulaas> mdke, for the glx problem that i  filed a bug against gnome-screensaver. However the package was unlucky. (Wrong place wrong time). My issue is much moreprobably related with K7 kernel. I will test much more this time.
[07:27] <mdke> ulaas, you can change the package
[07:28] <mdke> i assume...
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[07:28] <mdke> ulaas, click "request fix in distribution", then select the correct source package
[07:28] <ulaas> mdke, i must be sure this time. will do when sure. thanx
[07:29] <ulaas> switched to a 386 kernel. so far so good.
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[08:00] <dholbach> Yay, seems like opal+ekiga go into main (as successors of openh323+gnomemeeting) and only stuff in universe will still depend on openh323
[08:01] <Mithrandir> dholbach: are we there yet?  I want to call simira! :-)
[08:02] <dholbach> opal and ekiga have to go through NEW
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[08:02] <dholbach> and promoted to main
[08:02] <Mithrandir> woo
[08:02] <dholbach> and some packages in universe have to be fixed with new pwlib/openh323
[08:02] <dholbach> hey seb128
[08:02] <seb128> wb dholbach
[08:03] <desrt> anyone know where james has been lately?
[08:04] <seb128> which one?
[08:04] <desrt> h.
[08:04] <ogra> in #bzr ? 
[08:04] <ogra> or in #launchpad ? 
[08:05] <seb128> dunno for my part
[08:05] <desrt> neither of those places, either
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[08:06] <Kamion> desrt: as far as I know, he's been very busy with the archive migration to launchpad
[08:07] <desrt> ah.  so he's to blame for that :)
[08:07] <Kinnison> Umm, jamesh is nothing to do with archive->launchpad
[08:08] <desrt> 'sup daniel
[08:08] <Kinnison> n'much tall dude
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[08:09] <Kamion> err, I thought desrt meant James Troup not James Henstridge
[08:09] <Kamion> oh, totally misread sorry
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[08:33] <dholbach> I'll call it the day and go packing - see you.
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[09:06] <thesaltydog> is anyone aware of main libglib-perl bug?
[09:07] <ogra> yes
[09:07] <thesaltydog> ciao oliver!
[09:07] <ogra> it requires a new upstream version which is not available in debian yet ... nobody came around to package it yet it seems
[09:07] <ogra> hi fabio
[09:08] <thesaltydog>  have talk with muppet, last week... He said version 1.104 has been released. But it needs to be packaged.
[09:08] <ogra> yup
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[09:28] <ajmitch_> desrt: jamesh has been in dunedin at LCA all week
[09:28] <desrt> ahh
[09:28] <desrt> right
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[10:19] <jordi> does janimo tend to be around this channel?
[10:19] <ogra> yup
[10:20] <ogra> and in -motu
[10:20] <jordi> hmm. unlucky he's not here.
[10:20] <jordi> does anyone know if he's involved in xfce upstream?
[10:21] <jordi> he requested the import of some xfce module to rosetta, but I don't know if he did it with upstream's permission
[10:22] <ogra> i think he does work with upstream, yes
[10:22] <ogra> crimsun would know i guess
[10:23] <jordi> crimsun: dude
[10:23] <jordi> crimsun: I need you
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[10:39] <floam> BenC: sorry I didn't get back to you
[10:39] <floam> BenC: I'm on sata_via
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[11:16] <ivoks> anyone?
[11:17] <Burgundavia> ivoks, what do you need?
[11:17] <ivoks> i'm trying to find out what's forster.ubuntu.com :)
[11:17] <Burgundavia> hmm, no idea
[11:18] <ivoks> i have reports that some ubuntu installations make connections to this host
[11:18] <ivoks> and i can't find any info about it :/
[11:21] <Burgundavia> what sort of connection?
[11:21] <ivoks> i don't know
[11:21] <ivoks> i didn't get enough info
[11:21] <Burgundavia> all machines connect to ntp.ubuntu.com
[11:22] <ivoks> ah, that could be it
[11:22] <tseng> they arent the same ip
[11:22] <Burgundavia> that well, that scuppers that idea
[11:22] <ivoks> you stoled my line :)
[11:23] <ivoks> hm
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[11:23] <ivoks> it has only ports 80 and 21 open
[11:25] <ivoks> eh, 873 too
[11:25] <Burgundavia> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122632 <-- you know Malone is bad when they complain about it on the forums
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[11:30] <Lathiat> so, i sanyone else having really really bad udev issues?
[11:30] <ivoks> no...
[11:31] <Lathiat> like my d/ev/null ends up o-rwx, b44 isnt loaded, somethigns stoppign X from starting, ssh is saying the PRNG isn't seeded and essentially my laptop is fairly useless :)
[11:31] <ivoks> i'm having problems with forster :)
[11:31] <Lathiat> oh and ipw2200 loads but doesnt do anything
[11:31] <ivoks> strange... my works ok
[11:36] <ivoks> it's a mirror, AFAICT
[11:38] <ivoks> maybe update-manager? :)
[11:40] <ivoks> yup
[11:40] <ivoks>  hr.archive.ubuntu.com is alias for forster
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