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| LaserJock | hmm, I wonder if bshumate's connection was really reset by beer :-) | 01:06 |
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| LaserJock | I guess a drunk ISP could be to blame | 01:06 |
| Burgwork | can I reset my connection with beer? | 01:07 |
| LaserJock | if you have enough I'm sure ;-) | 01:07 |
| Burgwork | glad this week is over | 01:07 |
| Burgwork | but next week I go to Toronto, ugh | 01:08 |
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| [Alpha] | Helppppppppppppppppppppppp with an old bios | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | [Alpha] : this isn't a support channel, you should try #ubuntu | 02:27 |
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| Burgwork | there, that might be clearer than doc team | 02:31 |
| Burgwork | not that anybody reads topics anyway | 02:31 |
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| LaserJock | bustacap: do you think the UDSF meeting agenda sounds neutral enough? | 03:19 |
| bustacap | LaserJock, haha word travels quickly | 03:29 |
| bustacap | well, is that a trick question? :) | 03:29 |
| bustacap | it is an agenda for discussion, and an agenda that can be added to.. | 03:30 |
| bustacap | LaserJock, I have changed a line on the page to now read: "The agenda is open to be added to and edited freely by anyone." | 03:32 |
| bustacap | I am having a breather for a while, I'll check up on the situation later from my UG meeting tonight | 03:34 |
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| LaserJock | hi jsgotangco | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | hey LaserJock | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | so how did the meeting go? | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | umm, ok I guess. I'm used to MOTU meetings so it was pretty quick | 03:55 |
| jsgotangco | ah not so much on agenda i guess :/ | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | we talked about changing the C locale to en | 03:55 |
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| LaserJock | jsgotangco: we need more controversy so our meetings last for hours like the MOTU meetings do ;-) | 04:01 |
| jsgotangco | heh we need more doc maintainers and screw up our licenses | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | hmm, yes that might work too | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | ok brb too | 04:10 |
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| LaserJock | hi robotgeek | 06:28 |
| robotgeek | hey LaserJock | 06:28 |
| robotgeek | how it goes? | 06:29 |
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| LaserJock | it's going. I fixed tightvnc today, which is good | 06:30 |
| robotgeek | cool, i'm looking forward to get on with the Kubuntu docs today, get the structure laid out | 06:31 |
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| LaserJock | hi KingBahamut | 06:40 |
| robotgeek | hey KingBahamut | 06:41 |
| KingBahamut | aye | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | does anybody know how .pot files are created? | 06:44 |
| robotgeek | hmm, i read about this. i know it for python, lemme pull up a link | 06:44 |
| KingBahamut | I seem to remember | 06:45 |
| KingBahamut | thats something referencing documentation or something | 06:45 |
| KingBahamut | cant quite remember | 06:45 |
| robotgeek | KingBahamut: heh | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | well, I think they are for translations perhaps | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | but I want to mess around with the gpl XML but it also has a .pot . I don't know if I will mess it up | 06:47 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: yeah, i know thet are for translations, i am trying to pull up something specific | 06:47 |
| robotgeek | deja vu, i swear | 06:47 |
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| robotgeek | Madpilot_: you the man | 06:48 |
| robotgeek | LaserJock: http://anakin.ncst.ernet.in/~aparna/consolidated/x3799.html maybe that will help | 06:48 |
| Madpilot_ | hmm? | 06:48 |
| robotgeek | you know how to generate pot files for translations? | 06:49 |
| Madpilot_ | me? nope, sorry. I'm a hopeless unilingual anglophone... | 06:49 |
| LaserJock | looks like xml2pot would work | 06:49 |
| LaserJock | I don't think I will mess anything up because I'm just changing the layout not the content | 06:50 |
| robotgeek | maybe someone should do a wiki page on that | 06:53 |
| LaserJock | lol, a wiki page is always the answer ;-) | 06:54 |
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| dsas | could someone explain to me how to make a subpage of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/ and make it show up in the card specific section? | 07:09 |
| Madpilot_ | dsas, just create the URL you want to use (/WifiDocs/FooCard or whatever) and the wiki will ask if you want to create a page with that name | 07:10 |
| Madpilot_ | make sure you add it to the main WifiDocs page - subpages aren't added automatically | 07:11 |
| dsas | Madpilot_, ah ok, I understood that [[FullSearch(-ManufacturerModel AND title:WifiDocs)] ] did something fancy to make it show up automatically? | 07:11 |
| Madpilot_ | no idea, to be honest | 07:12 |
| dsas | i'll try and see :) | 07:12 |
| Madpilot_ | go ahead, it's easy to revert things that mess up on the wiki! | 07:12 |
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| dsas | Madpilot_, sweet, it just worked | 07:16 |
| Madpilot_ | dsas, cool. Which page? | 07:17 |
| dsas | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/CompaqW200 | 07:17 |
| dsas | Madpilot_, I've added a redirect to the old one :) | 07:18 |
| dsas | *from the old one | 07:18 |
| Madpilot_ | from is better :P | 07:18 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot_, do you work tomorrow? | 07:18 |
| Madpilot_ | Burgundavia, yes, I'm downtown 10-6 | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, the phone here has already been cutoff | 07:20 |
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| Madpilot_ | yes, Telus is evil. And irritating. | 07:20 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, around? | 07:25 |
| Madpilot_ | dsas, cool, I see how that WifiDocs card list works - interesting search filtering... | 07:25 |
| dsas | Madpilot_, I don't grok how the ManufacturerModel bit works tbh | 07:28 |
| Madpilot_ | dsas, if it works, that's enough :P | 07:28 |
| dsas | Madpilot_, *grins*, I agree. | 07:29 |
| Madpilot_ | it's some sort of search-filter voodoo | 07:30 |
| dsas | and who am I to question the moin voodo man | 07:31 |
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| dsas | would anyone like to criticise CompaqW200 or should I send a mail to the mailing list? | 07:31 |
| Burgundavia | salut bshumate | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | dsas, just a sec, I will look at it | 07:32 |
| dsas | Burgundavia, thanks | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | dsas, looks good. A few comments | 07:33 |
| Madpilot_ | dsas, it looks OK, but I don't actually grok wireless, so I'm not really qualified further... | 07:33 |
| Burgundavia | dsas, we don't prefer any editor, so change the bit about editing /etc/modules to say something like "Open a text editor using sudo and edit /etc/modules" | 07:34 |
| Burgundavia | dsas, other than that, looks good | 07:34 |
| Madpilot_ | Burgundavia, "sudo gedit /whatever/foo" is easier to understand than "open a text editor using sudo and..." | 07:36 |
| Madpilot_ | or "sudo nano..." if you want to make sure it works everywhere... | 07:36 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot_, yes, but what if a kubuntu user reads it | 07:36 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot_, all the official docs are written in this way and it was good | 07:37 |
| Madpilot_ | nano works in Kubuntu too... | 07:37 |
| Burgundavia | still no good, commandline only | 07:38 |
| dsas | Burgundavia, ok, I'll change that in other documents I come across it in too. | 07:38 |
| Burgundavia | dsas, cheers | 07:38 |
| dsas | Burgundavia, It it ok for me to move that page out of category cleanup now? | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | dsas, yep | 07:49 |
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| LaserJock | I just updated and cleaned up our GPL docbook | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | in case anybody cares ;-) | 08:29 |
| Madpilot_ | saw that - big commit | 08:31 |
| LaserJock | well, not really any content change | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | just updated the address | 08:32 |
| LaserJock | but I took out the sect tags and replaced them with orderedlists | 08:33 |
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| mdke | LaserJock_away, don't worry about the pot for the gpl, go ahead and edit | 11:17 |
| mdke | oh you did, good ;) | 11:18 |
| robotgeek | hey mdke | 11:18 |
| mdke | morning | 11:19 |
| mdke | poor old Naaman | 11:26 |
| robotgeek | why? | 11:35 |
| mdke | well he's undertaken a very difficult task | 11:36 |
| mdke | trying to bring the wiki and forums closer together | 11:37 |
| robotgeek | yeah, that's a tough one. but someone's gotta do it | 11:37 |
| mdke | mmm | 11:38 |
| mdke | many have spent a lot of time trying already | 11:38 |
| mdke | but maybe a fresh face might help | 11:38 |
| robotgeek | yeah...i spent some time with KB one day, but did not work out | 11:41 |
| robotgeek | it got outta practical domain, and went to philosophical ones. | 11:41 |
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| mdke | it's a shame because really the forum (helpdesk) and wiki (guides) idea is so simple, that it would work really well | 11:42 |
| robotgeek | yeah | 11:42 |
| manicka | evening mdke, robotgeek | 11:43 |
| robotgeek | evening manicka | 11:43 |
| robotgeek | time for me to write layout structure for the Kubuntu Desktop Guide, later. | 11:54 |
| robotgeek_work | mdke: maybe i can just copy structure from ubuntu desktop guide? | 11:54 |
| robotgeek_work | i might also get kkhatman to work on it with me, so that's nice | 11:55 |
| mdke | robotgeek_work, sounds good. You can copy anything you like | 12:16 |
| robotgeek_work | cool. the first changes are going to be grep for ubuntu and replace with kubuntu :) | 12:20 |
| robotgeek_work | hah, looks like rob1/someone else has already done that :) | 12:21 |
| robotgeek_work | mdke: is there a specific column size to which i should limit the writing to (78 cols or such?). i usually do it without linebreaks | 12:49 |
| robotgeek_work | not that it would matter with xml, but you get the idea | 12:49 |
| robotgeek_work | i'm done with the preface, lol | 12:51 |
| mdke | robotgeek_work, i do it without linebreaks too | 12:51 |
| mdke | someone eventually comes along and cleans it up | 12:51 |
| mdke | dunno how | 12:51 |
| mdke | maybe with conglomerate or something | 12:51 |
| robotgeek_work | hmm, i find it difficult to read with line breaks, that's not the way i am used to :) | 12:52 |
| robotgeek_work | conglomerate? | 12:52 |
| robotgeek_work | ah, the editor | 12:52 |
| robotgeek_work | is it any better than vim? :) | 12:53 |
| mdke | i don't understand how it works | 12:53 |
| mdke | it lays things out structurall | 12:53 |
| mdke | y | 12:53 |
| robotgeek_work | i got some plugin which puts the closing tag automatically, very useful | 12:53 |
| mdke | cool | 12:53 |
| robotgeek_work | i think it might be xmledit itself, or something else. i have about 3/4 installed, lol | 12:54 |
| robotgeek_work | kde-chunk-online.xsl is what i'm using right now for the html output, i couldn't find one for the kubuntu-desktop guide | 12:55 |
| robotgeek_work | should i just use the one for ubuntu right now? | 12:55 |
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| robotgeek_work | hey Kyral | 12:56 |
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| robotgeek_work | mdke: ping | 01:39 |
| mdke | robotgeek_work, pong | 01:43 |
| robotgeek_work | mdke: can i just do stuff like http://pastebin.com/527190 | 01:44 |
| robotgeek_work | or do i have to rewrite everything for kubuntu? | 01:44 |
| mdke | looks good to me | 01:45 |
| mdke | use your own judgment, and ask the kubuntu guys to review afterwards | 01:46 |
| robotgeek_work | heh, as usual :) | 01:46 |
| robotgeek_work | i am still trying to figure out how it all works out, but i'm comfortable with docbook already. html + latex :) | 01:47 |
| robotgeek_work | i'll bug you if i have any questions | 01:47 |
| mdke | cool, thanks for working on that | 01:55 |
| robotgeek_work | no problems, it's a good way for me to contribute back to an OS which i probably will be using for the rest of my life (Hopefully) | 01:56 |
| mdke | :) | 02:05 |
| robotgeek_work | mdke: do you know if we will have Shipits for Kubuntu Dapper? | 02:27 |
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| robotgeek_work | found out, answer is "assume yes: | 02:39 |
| robotgeek_work | apparently, What does kubuntu mean? has the answer "It means "towards humanity" in Bemba." | 02:40 |
| mdke | i thought shipit wasn't available for kubuntu | 02:43 |
| robotgeek_work | i asked Riddell, he said "assume yes" | 02:44 |
| mdke | cool | 02:44 |
| robotgeek_work | damn, i'm finding out new things about Kubuntu, and I'm not liking it:) | 02:46 |
| === Bonzodog uses xubuntu | ||
| Bonzodog | in dapper, and it's nice | 02:46 |
| robotgeek_work | i'm actually writing this on xubuntu, eventually i will move over to kubuntu | 02:48 |
| robotgeek_work | since i have better hardware now :) | 02:48 |
| robotgeek_work | it's a much nicely integrated system, IMHO. and I come from the mac line, so it matters quite a bit to me :) | 02:50 |
| Bonzodog | ugh...kde sucks imho | 02:50 |
| Bonzodog | it's bloatware | 02:50 |
| robotgeek_work | bloat where? | 02:51 |
| Bonzodog | you seen how much software it installs? | 02:51 |
| Bonzodog | like over a gig of software | 02:51 |
| robotgeek_work | true, but all that is required for the "integration". i don't care for disk space :) | 02:52 |
| Bonzodog | to get a full running desktop | 02:52 |
| Bonzodog | I have so much diskspace it defies reality | 02:52 |
| Bonzodog | but kde's bloat is inexcusable | 02:53 |
| Bonzodog | I wouldn't use suse because it relies on the kde base to run yast | 02:53 |
| Bonzodog | I like my linux distro's light and fast | 02:53 |
| mpt_ | And what kind of people call software "yast", anyway | 02:54 |
| robotgeek_work | Bonzodog: it pisses me off that I have to copy paste a url into liferea's discovery service to get feeds. | 02:54 |
| Bonzodog | with absolute direct access to the core | 02:54 |
| mpt_ | It sounds like an infection | 02:54 |
| mdke | heya mpt_ :) | 02:54 |
| robotgeek_work | in kde, from konqueror i can add feeds to akregator directly. stuff like that matters for me | 02:55 |
| mpt_ | hi mdke | 02:55 |
| robotgeek_work | plus, vim integrates nicely in kdevelop :) | 02:55 |
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| Bonzodog | incidentally bustacaps idea of removing the how-to sections from the forums is unworkable | 02:57 |
| Bonzodog | the section was created because people were overloading other sections with there own home-grown how-tos | 02:59 |
| Bonzodog | some of those how-to's were put together by people who we have not heard from since | 02:59 |
| Bonzodog | but importantly, they work | 03:00 |
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| Bonzodog | we cannot persuade the user base at large to contribute stuff directly to the wiki | 03:01 |
| Bonzodog | they just don't listen in our experience | 03:01 |
| Bonzodog | the forums are a bit like modern replacement for usenet, where people develop their own ways of doing things | 03:02 |
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| Bonzodog | it's users helping users | 03:02 |
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| Bonzodog | the mods are just there to mediate when things get out of hand, remove spam, and provide a modicum of control | 03:03 |
| Bonzodog | so we really have to centre on transferring the good stuff to the wiki, then acknowleding the contribution in the wiki | 03:04 |
| Bonzodog | we should never have to worry about asking permission as anything posted to the forums is classed as open to editing for public use | 03:05 |
| Bonzodog | mailing lists are frankly old hat | 03:05 |
| Bonzodog | I stopped using them **years** ago | 03:06 |
| === robotgeek_work just started using them, lol | ||
| Bonzodog | as I don't like a full inbox | 03:06 |
| mpt_ | rofl | 03:06 |
| mpt_ | Switching Ubuntu bug tracking from Bugzilla to Malone was not enough | 03:06 |
| mpt_ | Let's switch all development discussion from the ubuntu-devel mailing list to the forums :-) | 03:07 |
| robotgeek_work | Bonzodog: mutt + fetchmail + procmail works great for lists :) | 03:07 |
| Bonzodog | i have gmail | 03:07 |
| Bonzodog | and just use it's web front end | 03:07 |
| mpt_ | well, there's your problem right there | 03:07 |
| mpt_ | If you use Gmail, forums will be comparably awkward and slow | 03:07 |
| Bonzodog | my ISP does not provide mail accounts | 03:08 |
| === robotgeek_work also uses gmail, but has not seen the webinterface for several days. it's only useful for reporting spam, lol | ||
| mdke | gmail has pop access | 03:08 |
| Bonzodog | so web mail it is | 03:08 |
| mdke | i use a pop web server | 03:08 |
| mdke | which is much worse than gmail | 03:08 |
| robotgeek_work | i use gmail's pop access, it very easy to setup too | 03:08 |
| mpt_ | I use multiple computers, so POP is no good for me | 03:08 |
| Bonzodog | I have used gmails pop access | 03:09 |
| Bonzodog | but i cannot find a mail client i'm happy with | 03:09 |
| Bonzodog | I used to use pine | 03:09 |
| robotgeek_work | Bonzodog: kmail is very nice :) | 03:09 |
| Bonzodog | um...gtk solution it has to be | 03:09 |
| robotgeek_work | Bonzodog: syphleed maybe? | 03:10 |
| Bonzodog | I might install thunderbird | 03:10 |
| robotgeek_work | Bonzodog: you can get mutt with pine keybindings, if you can spare the effort, i think | 03:10 |
| Bonzodog | I want a well written ncurses client | 03:11 |
| robotgeek_work | mutt is very nice, i use both kmail and mutt | 03:11 |
| robotgeek_work | mutt is for when i am away from computer | 03:11 |
| Bonzodog | at the moment though, I am keeping dapper on the bleeding edge | 03:12 |
| Bonzodog | and it's broken a lot of the gnome dependent apps | 03:12 |
| Bonzodog | as i am currently missing gconf | 03:12 |
| robotgeek_work | my dapper won't upgrade, i think it might actually be a good sign, lol | 03:12 |
| Bonzodog | robotgeek_work, have you asked for a dist-upgrade lately? | 03:13 |
| Bonzodog | I did it last night | 03:13 |
| Bonzodog | I now have gnome 2.13.9 | 03:13 |
| Bonzodog | a very broken gnome | 03:13 |
| robotgeek_work | Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/ifupdown/ifupdown_0.6.7ubuntu6_powerpc.deb 404 Not Found | 03:13 |
| Bonzodog | robotgeek_work, remove the 'us' from the addy | 03:14 |
| robotgeek_work | ah, okay. | 03:14 |
| Bonzodog | it all has to be just archive.ubuntu.com to work | 03:14 |
| robotgeek_work | funny, it worked yesterday | 03:14 |
| Bonzodog | you wait now | 03:14 |
| Bonzodog | also enable universe and multiverse in both sets of archives, security included | 03:15 |
| robotgeek_work | already have | 03:15 |
| Bonzodog | then apt-get update | 03:16 |
| robotgeek_work | hmm, 123 MB. Do i want to upgrade and risk breakage...heh | 03:16 |
| Bonzodog | then apt-get dist-upgrade | 03:16 |
| robotgeek_work | hmm, this is going to take a while. crap | 03:16 |
| Bonzodog | like I said, /home is on a seperate partition, so breakag only happens at the root | 03:17 |
| robotgeek_work | Bonzodog: that's my test machine, so no issues there | 03:17 |
| robotgeek_work | mdke: i have a reference like &terminal, is that document specific? | 03:19 |
| robotgeek_work | mdke: can i refer directly to Adept Guide, instead of copy/pasting the material here? | 04:06 |
| robotgeek_work | anyways, almost done with chapter 1, i made a few changes to global ent, i guess. is that okay? | 04:11 |
| robotgeek_work | i made changes to "ubuntu-doc/libs/global.ent", is this okay? | 04:13 |
| robotgeek_work | later, gotta hit bed :) | 04:14 |
| robotgeek_zzz | http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/KubuntuDesktopGuide/ is where you can get a sneak peek. lots of errors, i know :) | 04:17 |
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| mdke | robotgeek_zzz, you can't use &terminal; it refers to a gnome-menus entity | 05:52 |
| mdke | robotgeek_zzz, yes, refer to the adept guide | 05:52 |
| mdke | robotgeek_zzz, yes, make changes to global.ent, if you need to add things | 05:52 |
| mdke | :) | 05:52 |
| LaserJock | mdke: did you happen to look at my changes to the gpl.xml? | 06:55 |
| mdke | LaserJock, nope, just assumed it is fine | 06:59 |
| mdke | that reminds me about the pot | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | mdke: oh your bold to assume that anything I do is fine ;-) | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | mdke: so should all the .pot | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | files for the licenses be removed? | 07:00 |
| mdke | yeah I'm gonna do that | 07:01 |
| LaserJock | ok, thanks | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | I was hoping to not be too much of a pain | 07:03 |
| mdke | LaserJock, you're not at all | 07:03 |
| mdke | quite the reverse | 07:03 |
| mdke | done | 07:03 |
| mdke | tempted to nuke xubuntu too, we don't work on that to my knowledge | 07:05 |
| LaserJock | really? | 07:05 |
| mdke | i think that is upstream docs, no one has ever worked on it iirc | 07:06 |
| LaserJock | oh | 07:12 |
| LaserJock | that's to bad | 07:14 |
| mdke | ? | 07:14 |
| LaserJock | that we don't have any xubuntu docs | 07:16 |
| LaserJock | what about edubuntu? Do they have there own docs? | 07:17 |
| mdke | xfce has good upstream docs | 07:19 |
| mdke | yeah edubuntu have some docs | 07:19 |
| mdke | the current ones are not in our repo i think | 07:20 |
| LaserJock | lol, I forgot that we were shipping HTML. My yelp hasn' | 07:24 |
| mdke | hasn't? | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | hasn't shown anything for a while | 07:24 |
| mdke | oh right | 07:24 |
| mdke | do a scrollkeeper reinstall | 07:24 |
| LaserJock | really? | 07:25 |
| mdke | just sudo scrollkeeper-rebuild should do it | 07:25 |
| LaserJock | I'll try that because it works in my chroot but not on my main install | 07:25 |
| mdke | just dist-upgrade it should be fixed :D | 07:26 |
| LaserJock | well, a dist-upgrade hasn't fixed it | 07:27 |
| mdke | was scrollkeeper updated? | 07:27 |
| crimsun | today, yes | 07:28 |
| LaserJock | I don't know but sudo scrollkeeper-rebuilddb worked | 07:28 |
| mdke | good | 07:28 |
| LaserJock | weird | 07:28 |
| mdke | its a known problem | 07:29 |
| mdke | should have been fixed with the last scrollkeeper tho i think | 07:29 |
| === Bonzodog 's dist-upgrade in dapper broke gnome completely | ||
| Bonzodog | wot no gconf-editor, wot no gksudo | 07:30 |
| Bonzodog | wot no theme manager | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | what I don't get is why it would work in my chroot. They are both dist-upgraded, just not at the same time | 07:31 |
| Bonzodog | gconf is **completely** broken in ghnome at the moment | 07:31 |
| mdke | Bonzodog, worksforme | 07:31 |
| Bonzodog | you ever tried running gnome without it | 07:32 |
| Bonzodog | ? | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | good thing I have KDE around ;-) | 07:32 |
| Bonzodog | I'm on dapper 64 bit | 07:32 |
| Bonzodog | with all repos enabled | 07:32 |
| Bonzodog | and I did a dist-upgrade | 07:32 |
| Bonzodog | as of last night | 07:32 |
| Bonzodog | the dist-upgrade just broke gnome completely | 07:33 |
| Bonzodog | it also did an interesting update to gdm | 07:33 |
| Bonzodog | my gnome is currently 2.13.9 | 07:33 |
| mdke | yes there is a new gdm theme | 07:34 |
| Bonzodog | the shutdown and reboot menu's have been enclosed in one 'options' menu | 07:35 |
| Bonzodog | I cannot understand how it broke gconf though | 07:35 |
| Bonzodog | gconfd is running in the background | 07:35 |
| mdke | best file a bug | 07:35 |
| mdke | i don't see that here | 07:35 |
| Bonzodog | but all my icons ahve gone, I have no desktop background | 07:36 |
| Bonzodog | gnome-theme-manager segfaults | 07:36 |
| LaserJock | works fine for me too | 07:37 |
| Bonzodog | try deleting your .gconf dirs in your home dir | 07:40 |
| Bonzodog | and watch it crash | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | Bonzodog: works fine for me | 07:42 |
| Bonzodog | hrmm...strange | 07:42 |
| Bonzodog | dunno why it just happened on my system | 07:43 |
| Bonzodog | but something did break once in downloading | 07:43 |
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| SteveMyers | mdke, when you're available can you pm me sir, thank you | 09:56 |
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