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crimsunit does, I pbuilt it before telling the fix12:04
LaserJockreally? I'm still having problems12:04
crimsunwhere does it fail?12:05
crimsunmake sure you comment out/alter xmkmf references throughout debian/rules, not just in the clean target12:05
LaserJockright, I had to do it to the configure rule12:06
LaserJockbut then in the pbuilder it's looking for makedepend but can't find it12:06
LaserJockI think it might need to be a build-dep12:06
crimsun14:50 < crimsun> LaserJock: and there's a missing build-dep on the 'makedepend' package12:06
LaserJockdoh12:06
LaserJockcrimsun: so are you going to upload it?12:08
crimsunnope, you can :)12:09
crimsunerr, I can with your fixes, sure12:09
crimsunurl to debdiff, yadda yadda12:10
dholbachgood night folks, I'm off too12:10
LaserJockcya dholbach12:10
dholbachnight LaserJock12:10
crimsunnight daniel12:10
dholbachnight other daniel :)12:10
crimsun:)12:11
LaserJockcrimsun: well, you did the work. All I had to do was change the xserver-common build dep12:11
crimsunLaserJock: nah, I just gave you pointers. The original work is yours.12:11
LaserJockcrimsun: well this stinks, I didn't realize that tightvnc depends on vnc-common12:20
crimsunLaserJock: ?12:22
crimsunoh, you mean the binary packages depend on it? yep.12:23
LaserJockcrimsun: lol, the whole reason I was working on tightvnc was that vnc4 has issues, but tightvnc depends on vnc4 (at least vnc-common)12:24
LaserJockcrimsun: so I fixed tightvnc (which is way cool) but it doesn't install because vnc-common isn't installable12:24
crimsunthat's interesting. Why are we still using vnc-common instead of vnc4-common?12:26
crimsunah, must be stability12:27
crimsunLaserJock: well, the tightvnc fix is still worth something :)12:27
JohnnyMastalright i need a motu for a security fix thats pending for like a week now and its a bit important12:31
crimsunwhich?12:33
LaserJockcrimsun: ok, the debdiff is at http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/tightvnc_1.2.9-8ubuntu2.debdiff12:33
crimsunI have a backlog of nearly a dozen I need to whip into shape and fire off12:33
JohnnyMasthttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libast/+bug/2946412:33
Ubugtumalone bug 29464 in libast "Buffer overflow in conf.c" [Major,In progress] 12:33
JohnnyMastty Ubugtu12:33
crimsunJohnnyMast: ok, I'll look tonight12:33
JohnnyMastok good thanks mate12:34
JohnnyMastcheers12:34
crimsunLaserJock: hmm, is the auto* cruft in the debdiff absolutely necessary?12:35
LaserJockcrimsun: I sure hope not, but I don't know how to get rid of it12:38
LaserJockall I changed was changelog, control, and rules in debian/12:38
crimsunyeah, the standard auto* cruft being dumped in via debian/rules:clean12:39
LaserJockcrimsun: do you know how to get rid of that? I've seen the config.sub and config.guess cruft in .diff.gz's and I wonder how to get rid of it12:41
crimsunLaserJock: a wonderful, wonderful tool called filterdiff12:42
crimsun'patchutils' package12:42
crimsunfilterdiff -i '*/debian/*' tightvnc_1.2.9-8ubuntu2.debdiff > new.diff12:42
crimsun(-i is implied, so you don't have to state it)12:43
crimsunworth adding to the packaging guide, btw12:43
LaserJockohhhh, yeah12:44
LaserJockcrimsun: would that work for diff.tar.gz files?12:45
crimsundiff.gz? yep.12:45
crimsun-z [..]  patch-1.2.3.gz12:45
crimsunI believe the example in the filterdiff man page uses a patch[..] .gz12:46
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LaserJockok, cool12:46
LaserJockshould I send you a new patch then?12:46
crimsunno need, already filterdiffed12:46
LaserJockok, thanks12:46
crimsunuploaded.12:48
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LaserJockcrimsun: sweet, now on to vnc4 :(12:52
LaserJockdoko: ping?12:52
LaserJockoh man, now I see what doko was talking about. A copy of the xorg-server source package is included in the vnc4 package12:57
LaserJockbut of course it isn't the current dapper xorg-server package12:59
LaserJockcrimsun: what's the best way of making a directory with debian/rules? install -d ?01:19
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crimsunLaserJock: personal preference. I generally use whatever's in debian/rules for consistency. Otherwise I use install.01:32
LaserJockcrimsun: ok, thanks01:34
LaserJockthis vnc4 is a bear >:|01:35
crimsunindeed. May need to rip out the included xorg-server source and reroll a foo.dfsg.orig.tar.gz01:35
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crimsunaway for a few hours01:37
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KoruptidPrydedoes anyone in here still have the kernel headers for 2.6.15-11??04:24
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KoruptidPrydeAmaranth, help meeeeee04:58
Amaranthwith?04:59
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KoruptidPrydeAmaranth, I need the kernel headers for 2.6.15-1104:59
KoruptidPrydeAmaranth, they got deleted off the repo and nobody seems to have them cached05:00
Amaranthwhy? just use the latest05:00
KoruptidPrydeI can't05:00
Amaranthi don't have them05:00
KoruptidPrydeI can't switch to the newest kernel because ndiswrappers is broken in it05:00
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Amaranthndiswrapper is broken with 2.6.15-14?05:02
Amaranthhow?05:02
KoruptidPrydeI haven't quite gotten the complete answer from anyone yet..... from what dillinger described it was some issue with benc needing to add a patch to the kernel that he didn't do in the last three builds05:03
KoruptidPrydebenc says that the patch will be in -15 but for the moment it means I'm stuck begging for kernel-headers that got deleted from the repo05:04
Amaranthyeah, and the morgue is dead05:04
Amaranthwas -11 on the flight 3 cd?05:05
KoruptidPrydethe morgue?05:05
KoruptidPrydeAmaranth, noidea... I did a dist-upgrade05:05
Amaranththe morgue is supposedly supposed to be where packages go after they're removed from the archive05:05
Amaranthso they're still available but not eating up space on the mirrors05:05
AmaranthKoruptidPryde: you should download a flight 3 iso, mount it, and see if -11 headers are in it05:06
KoruptidPrydewhere does that hide?05:06
KoruptidPrydeand where would the morgue normally be?05:06
Amaranthmorgue.ubuntu.com05:07
Amaranthhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-3/05:07
Amaranthof course, it's a 650MB download for one package05:07
Amaranthand you might end up having to get flight 2 instead05:07
KoruptidPrydeI'll just download both05:10
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KoruptidPrydeso what happened to morgue anyway?05:11
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LaserJockKoruptidPryde: still there?05:46
LaserJockKoruptidPryde: would05:46
LaserJocklinux-kernel-headers_2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13_i386.deb help?05:46
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zakameafternoon MOTUs :)06:41
LaserJockhi zakame06:41
zakamehello LaserJock :) how's the packagingguide going?06:42
LaserJockit's going, doc.ubuntu.com has the latest06:43
zakamew00t06:44
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sid5400!list07:02
sid5400!list07:05
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Amaranthwtf07:15
Amaranthsomeone thought this was a warez channel...07:15
zakameheh07:17
BurgundaviaAmaranth, oh?07:27
Amaranthyeah, they joined and said "!list" twice, then left07:28
Burgundaviaah. I know next to nothing about warez07:28
zakamewhat would cause uscan to fail with a (Bad protocol: 'tcp') ?07:29
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zakameaanyway, score another for the freetype transition!07:38
LaserJockwhat is the current FSF address?08:04
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LaserJockFranklin Street or Temple Place?08:04
LaserJockanybody out there?08:09
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minghuaLaserJock: yes, and the current address is Franklin :-)08:16
LaserJockminghua: thanks, I went to fsf.org in the mean time ;-)08:17
LaserJockbut it's still nice to know someone is listening :-)08:17
minghuayeah, thought so, it's not that hard to think of where to look, I suppose08:17
minghuathere are always people listening, don't worry :-)08:18
LaserJockwell, I got confused because there are so many copies of the GPL around08:18
LaserJockwith both addresses08:18
minghuayeah, my upstream didn't change address either08:18
minghuait's just quite recently he changed all file headers to match his COPYING file :-P08:20
LaserJockand I went to gnu.org and they have the franklin address but copyright 1991, which seems a bit old08:20
LaserJockso I thought maybe they had the old address08:20
LaserJockwell, I'm updating the doc teams version of the GPL since I'm the only one that uses it08:20
LaserJockand they have the old address08:20
minghuaindeed, I double checked the 1991 date too, didn't believe it at first glance08:21
LaserJockso they updated the address but not the copyright08:24
minghuawell, I suppose they think the address paragraph is not really part of the license08:30
minghuaanyway, I think there are really enough lawyers and nitpicker looking at GPL that I don't need to worry about it a little bit :-)08:31
LaserJockright, that is what I was just thinking08:31
minghuaand HONESTLY I don't really see the big point of changing the address, either08:34
LaserJockyeah, like who actually writes them?08:34
LaserJockI would email if anything08:34
minghuaI mean, yeah, it is nice to have accurate information, but come on, how many people really write snail mails to FSF asking for GPL copy08:34
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minghuaand can't they set up some permernant mail forwarding or something?08:35
minghuaanyway, that's just ranting, perhaps because I spend about 2 hours total on changing all addresses of my packages :-P08:36
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LaserJockhi Kyral08:59
LaserJockdoh08:59
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LaserJockHi Hobbsee09:18
Hobbseehi LaserJock :)09:18
Hobbseei'm finally back!09:18
LaserJockfrom where?09:19
Hobbseeadelaide09:20
LaserJockoh, you were go for a while09:21
Hobbseeyes09:21
LaserJockglad to see your back09:22
Hobbseethanks :)09:31
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ajmitchevening09:39
Hobbseeevening ajmitch09:44
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ajmitchdholbach!09:57
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dholbachhello!09:58
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mnenciahi10:02
mnenciai'm a debian developer, i've a question about debian/ubuntu integration of package. can i ask here?10:03
ajmitchsure10:04
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dholbachmnencia: yeah, this is the (one of the) right places :-)10:06
mnenciahere https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/+changelog you can see the cangelog of package libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, the problem is that the changelog entry for version 2.0.3-1 is missing.10:09
ajmitchmight be a launchpad bug, I'll check the source package10:09
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mnenciai'm tryng to undestand if is my fault, and how to correct these problems in10:10
dholbachgar, http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql_2.0.2b1-6/changelog.txt doesn't have the newest version10:10
ajmitchit's unlikely to be your fault10:10
ajmitchdholbach: use changelogs.ubuntu.com10:11
minghuamnencia: seeing there is -6ubuntu1 version there, I would say it's most likely not your fault10:11
minghuamnencia: I think some ubuntu people made some mistake on this side10:11
dholbachlaunchpad bug10:12
dholbachhttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql_2.0.3-2/changelog10:12
mnenciaminghua: how can i help ubuntu when i'll upload new version of my packages?10:12
ajmitchdholbach: funnily enough mpt is living only about 2 minutes walk from me now :)10:12
mnenciadholbach: ok, tnx10:13
dholbachmnencia: don't worry about the launchpad changelog too much - this part of the infrastructure is heavily worked on this and next week - you might expect better results from then on.10:13
dholbachOur complete build infrastructure will be administrated via launchpad then.10:13
dholbachmnencia: Thanks for the headsup.10:14
minghuamnencia: look at packages.ubuntu.com (where searches work ;-), and if it's the same version number (no -XubuntuY stuff), you shouldn't worry too much10:14
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dholbachas ajmitch said: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql_2.0.3-2/changelog is the place to be10:14
dholbachpackages.ubuntu.com has it wrong too (i guess it doesnt sync often)10:14
siretartmoin10:15
ajmitchminghua: packages.ubuntu.com is out of sync10:15
siretartaah, line1.tauware.de is back again :)10:15
dholbachhellas siretart10:15
siretarthuhu dholbach10:15
ajmitchhey siretart10:15
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ajmitchonce my desktop box is alive again10:15
minghuamnencia: if it indeed is -XubuntuY or an old Debian version, just come here and drop a line or write to the mailing list10:15
minghuadholbach, ajmitch: thanks for correcting10:15
dholbachand guys: PLEASE help me check on all the open UVF requests on ubuntu-motu@10:15
mnenciaok, tenz10:16
minghuamnencia: yeah, as they said, use changelogs.ubuntu.com instead10:16
ajmitchdholbach: I can now that LCA is over10:16
siretartdholbach: are you at the desktp team sprint in london?10:16
dholbachI want to let people have a clear answer soon.10:16
ajmitchmnencia: we'll harass the launchpad guys about their bugs10:16
dholbachsiretart: not yet - tomorrow, I'll take the plane from Luxembourg10:16
siretartdholbach: lucky you ;)10:16
dholbachsiretart: I'm at my parents place today10:17
siretartah10:17
siretart:)10:17
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dholbach*wave*10:17
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siretartyay. the first spam arrives again10:19
mnenciaI've another litle question, is there some place in the net where i can requesto to forward me every bug submitted to my packages in ubuntu?10:24
ajmitchmnencia: at the moment you need to subscribe to each package's bugs on launchpad10:25
mnenciaajmitch: ok, tnx10:25
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ajmitcheg launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/packagename/+bugs10:25
ajmitchor something similar10:25
ajmitchit's very annoying when you have a few debian packages10:26
siretartperhaps it will be possible to do that with the email interface some day10:28
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dholbachCan't you make yourself a default subscriber to a source package?10:52
dholbachI should think so.10:52
ajmitchnot sure10:54
siretartdholbach: yes it is, but you need to do that for every package individually10:55
siretartand I didn't get any email from those subscription yet anyway, so I'm not sure if it works at all10:56
dholbachI do get them.10:56
dholbach(more than I want :/)10:56
siretartoh, then it works :)10:56
siretartpoor daniel ;)10:56
dholbachhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/<source package>/+subscribe10:57
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siretartlaunchpad rollout today?11:19
VoXis dapper going to incorporate gnome 2.14?11:22
dholbachVoX: yes, 2.14.1 even11:22
VoXpwoar11:22
VoXhotsex11:22
dholbachyeah11:22
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Mithrandirwhiprush: does it hurt? :-)11:49
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siretartslomo: are the sources to ubuntu xine-lib in our svn repo?01:00
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slomosiretart: nope... thanks for reminding, i'll do it tomorrow :)01:01
siretartslomo: ok01:03
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ajmitch_yay, I've lost sound on my desktop now01:38
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thierrysiretart : if you have time could you review my package? libfxruby1.402:23
siretartthierry: sorry, I'm quite busy now. is it really urgent?02:23
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thierrysiretart : well what is the date for stopping to get new packages in dapper? if it's like next week, yes it's urgent but if there's no new package allowed in dapper then no it's not urgent02:39
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dholbachthierry: Feb 2302:43
thierryok so siretart, it's not urgent like today but it could be urgent to do it (if you want of course) in the 5-6 next days...02:45
siretartdholbach: pwlib? so ekiga is comming soon? :)02:47
dholbachsiretart: yes02:47
dholbachopal needs to go through NEW02:47
siretartyay! :)02:47
dholbachpwlib too02:47
dholbachand openh323 too02:47
dholbachsome rdepends rebuilds02:47
siretartpwlib has passed NEW02:47
dholbachekiga through NEW02:47
dholbachseed changes for ekiga, ... :)02:47
siretartabout 10 minutes ago02:48
thierrydholbach : my package libfxscintilla made it to dapper!!! :D my first package02:54
dholbachExcellent!02:54
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thierrynow, if someone sends a bug for my package on malone, I'll get a e-mail like if I was subscribing to a bug right?02:55
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LaserJockcrimsun: btw, tightvnc is installable and works wonderfully, thanks for the help07:33
thierryI can't upgrade my chroot, coreutils complains about overwriting a md5sums file... strange07:33
LaserJockthierry: what kind of chroot?07:33
thierrydapper07:33
crimsunLaserJock: great.07:39
crimsunLaserJock: If you had waited til today to fix it, you wouldn't have had to kludge debian/rules ;)07:40
LaserJockreally? how come? new imake?07:40
crimsunimake (1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2) dapper; urgency=low  * Fix xmkmf config path. -- Fabio M. Di Nitto <fabbione@ubuntu.com>  Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:38:56 +010007:40
LaserJockthierry: my chroot is upgrading fine, sorry07:40
LaserJockcrimsun: ahhh07:40
thierryLaserJock : does removing and reinstalling coreutils seems like a good idea?07:41
LaserJockthierry: hmm, I'm not sure "core" sounds like something you don't want to remove but I'm not sure07:43
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thierryLaserJock : mmm I don't want to break my chroot, but at the same time, I'd like it to work correctly, wich is not the case right now...07:44
LaserJockthierry: is your chroot important enough that you don't want delete it and start over?07:46
thierrywell the main thing that disturb me is having to reconfigure my chroot completely07:47
LaserJockhow so?07:48
LaserJockyou could tar the /etc directory07:50
thierrydidn't tough about that :) any command-line thing for that?07:51
LaserJockand dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections might help too07:51
LaserJocktar -czf etc.tgz /etc/ ?07:52
thierryk thanks07:52
LaserJockyou can at least try to remove and reinstall coreutils after you've backed up what you want07:53
thierryyeah that's what I'm going to do07:54
LaserJockhmm, but when I did an apt-get -s remove coreutils it was going to remove dpkg07:55
Mithrandiryou generally don't want to remove coreutils.07:55
thierryyeah but it doesn't want upgrade...07:55
tsengyoull have much bigger problmes if you remove it07:57
thierrytseng : ok but do I have any other choice?07:57
tsengyes?07:57
tsengdont upgrade07:57
thierryok ok but, I want to massively fix the no-desktop problem in a BIG number of package, so I made a script to do half the job for me, but I want gedit to changes the file, but gedit doesn't work on my chroot since some time so I wanted to upgrade it, but I need to upgrade coreutils who doesn't want to because of a stupid md5sum file who changed of name!08:00
thierryand I can't really use nano or something like that since it doesn't let me see more than one file at a time08:00
thierrytseng : if you have a magic solution for that problem, that would do my day08:01
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thierryanyone here could tell me how to get gedit working on a dapper chroot, someone already told me how to but I lost the explanation, it was done without installing X on the chroot...08:17
Mithrandirthierry: bind-mount /tmp into /tmp in the chroot08:18
Mithrandirso, mount --bind /tmp /path/to/chroot/tmp08:19
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thierryMithrandir : I get Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:22
thierryXlib: No protocol specified08:22
Mithrandiryou must set DISPLAY too08:22
thierryhow?08:23
Mithrandirexport DISPLAY=:0 ?08:23
thierrystill same thing08:24
Mithrandirstrace the application and see where it goes wrong08:25
thierryexact commend (I never used strace)08:25
Mithrandir"strace gedit"08:26
Mithrandirfor instance08:26
thierryaccess("/home/thierry/.Xauthority", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)08:26
tsengits going to fail because either no xauth08:26
Mithrandirwell, you probably want to bind-mount /home too, then08:26
tsengor the master server isnt accepting connections08:27
thierrybinding home works08:27
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thierryexcept that now my home is in my chroot home!!08:29
Mithrandiryes?08:30
Mithrandiryou could just set up ssh in the chroot on a different port and do ssh -X -p 1234 localhost as well08:30
tsengnot if he doesnt install xauth he cant08:30
Mithrandirwell, install xauth, then. :-P08:31
dholbachI'll call it the day and go packing - see you.08:33
Mithrandirdholbach, now in _three_ channels.08:35
dholbachMithrandir: hm?08:35
Mithrandirdholbach: just that you said the exact same thing in a lot of different channels.08:35
ograMithrandir, yes, he loves to broadcast over freenet :)08:36
dholbachMithrandir: I wanted to say goodbye to everybody.08:36
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ograi always click through all channels to read the same :)08:36
dholbach*wave*08:36
Mithrandirdholbach: see you tomorrow, then08:36
ogra(inhsert "as well" at appropriate places)08:36
dholbach:-)08:36
Mithrandirenjoy your flight08:36
ograciao dholbach08:37
dholbachThanks. I'll go on seb128's nerves - that'll be great.08:37
ograheh08:37
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Gloubiboulgasomeone has time for a review ?08:39
Gloubiboulgahttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=161608:39
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phlaegelQuick packaging question: I want to rebuild a package with a minor change. I've done apt-get source and made my change. What do I use to rebuild the package? I don't want to (and don't have room to) set up a pbuilder environment right now...10:28
phlaegelnever mind, I think I figured it out10:40
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