[12:04] <crimsun> it does, I pbuilt it before telling the fix
[12:04] <LaserJock> really? I'm still having problems
[12:05] <crimsun> where does it fail?
[12:05] <crimsun> make sure you comment out/alter xmkmf references throughout debian/rules, not just in the clean target
[12:06] <LaserJock> right, I had to do it to the configure rule
[12:06] <LaserJock> but then in the pbuilder it's looking for makedepend but can't find it
[12:06] <LaserJock> I think it might need to be a build-dep
[12:06] <crimsun> 14:50 < crimsun> LaserJock: and there's a missing build-dep on the 'makedepend' package
[12:06] <LaserJock> doh
[12:08] <LaserJock> crimsun: so are you going to upload it?
[12:09] <crimsun> nope, you can :)
[12:09] <crimsun> err, I can with your fixes, sure
[12:10] <crimsun> url to debdiff, yadda yadda
[12:10] <dholbach> good night folks, I'm off too
[12:10] <LaserJock> cya dholbach
[12:10] <dholbach> night LaserJock
[12:10] <crimsun> night daniel
[12:10] <dholbach> night other daniel :)
[12:11] <crimsun> :)
[12:11] <LaserJock> crimsun: well, you did the work. All I had to do was change the xserver-common build dep
[12:11] <crimsun> LaserJock: nah, I just gave you pointers. The original work is yours.
[12:20] <LaserJock> crimsun: well this stinks, I didn't realize that tightvnc depends on vnc-common
[12:22] <crimsun> LaserJock: ?
[12:23] <crimsun> oh, you mean the binary packages depend on it? yep.
[12:24] <LaserJock> crimsun: lol, the whole reason I was working on tightvnc was that vnc4 has issues, but tightvnc depends on vnc4 (at least vnc-common)
[12:24] <LaserJock> crimsun: so I fixed tightvnc (which is way cool) but it doesn't install because vnc-common isn't installable
[12:26] <crimsun> that's interesting. Why are we still using vnc-common instead of vnc4-common?
[12:27] <crimsun> ah, must be stability
[12:27] <crimsun> LaserJock: well, the tightvnc fix is still worth something :)
[12:31] <JohnnyMast> alright i need a motu for a security fix thats pending for like a week now and its a bit important
[12:33] <crimsun> which?
[12:33] <LaserJock> crimsun: ok, the debdiff is at http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/tightvnc_1.2.9-8ubuntu2.debdiff
[12:33] <crimsun> I have a backlog of nearly a dozen I need to whip into shape and fire off
[12:33] <JohnnyMast> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libast/+bug/29464
[12:33] <Ubugtu> malone bug 29464 in libast "Buffer overflow in conf.c" [Major,In progress] 
[12:33] <JohnnyMast> ty Ubugtu
[12:33] <crimsun> JohnnyMast: ok, I'll look tonight
[12:34] <JohnnyMast> ok good thanks mate
[12:34] <JohnnyMast> cheers
[12:35] <crimsun> LaserJock: hmm, is the auto* cruft in the debdiff absolutely necessary?
[12:38] <LaserJock> crimsun: I sure hope not, but I don't know how to get rid of it
[12:38] <LaserJock> all I changed was changelog, control, and rules in debian/
[12:39] <crimsun> yeah, the standard auto* cruft being dumped in via debian/rules:clean
[12:41] <LaserJock> crimsun: do you know how to get rid of that? I've seen the config.sub and config.guess cruft in .diff.gz's and I wonder how to get rid of it
[12:42] <crimsun> LaserJock: a wonderful, wonderful tool called filterdiff
[12:42] <crimsun> 'patchutils' package
[12:42] <crimsun> filterdiff -i '*/debian/*' tightvnc_1.2.9-8ubuntu2.debdiff > new.diff
[12:43] <crimsun> (-i is implied, so you don't have to state it)
[12:43] <crimsun> worth adding to the packaging guide, btw
[12:44] <LaserJock> ohhhh, yeah
[12:45] <LaserJock> crimsun: would that work for diff.tar.gz files?
[12:45] <crimsun> diff.gz? yep.
[12:45] <crimsun> -z [..]  patch-1.2.3.gz
[12:46] <crimsun> I believe the example in the filterdiff man page uses a patch[..] .gz
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[12:46] <LaserJock> ok, cool
[12:46] <LaserJock> should I send you a new patch then?
[12:46] <crimsun> no need, already filterdiffed
[12:46] <LaserJock> ok, thanks
[12:48] <crimsun> uploaded.
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[12:52] <LaserJock> crimsun: sweet, now on to vnc4 :(
[12:52] <LaserJock> doko: ping?
[12:57] <LaserJock> oh man, now I see what doko was talking about. A copy of the xorg-server source package is included in the vnc4 package
[12:59] <LaserJock> but of course it isn't the current dapper xorg-server package
[01:19] <LaserJock> crimsun: what's the best way of making a directory with debian/rules? install -d ?
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[01:32] <crimsun> LaserJock: personal preference. I generally use whatever's in debian/rules for consistency. Otherwise I use install.
[01:34] <LaserJock> crimsun: ok, thanks
[01:35] <LaserJock> this vnc4 is a bear >:|
[01:35] <crimsun> indeed. May need to rip out the included xorg-server source and reroll a foo.dfsg.orig.tar.gz
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[01:37] <crimsun> away for a few hours
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[04:24] <KoruptidPryde> does anyone in here still have the kernel headers for 2.6.15-11??
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[04:58] <KoruptidPryde> Amaranth, help meeeeee
[04:59] <Amaranth> with?
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[04:59] <KoruptidPryde> Amaranth, I need the kernel headers for 2.6.15-11
[05:00] <KoruptidPryde> Amaranth, they got deleted off the repo and nobody seems to have them cached
[05:00] <Amaranth> why? just use the latest
[05:00] <KoruptidPryde> I can't
[05:00] <Amaranth> i don't have them
[05:00] <KoruptidPryde> I can't switch to the newest kernel because ndiswrappers is broken in it
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[05:02] <Amaranth> ndiswrapper is broken with 2.6.15-14?
[05:02] <Amaranth> how?
[05:03] <KoruptidPryde> I haven't quite gotten the complete answer from anyone yet..... from what dillinger described it was some issue with benc needing to add a patch to the kernel that he didn't do in the last three builds
[05:04] <KoruptidPryde> benc says that the patch will be in -15 but for the moment it means I'm stuck begging for kernel-headers that got deleted from the repo
[05:04] <Amaranth> yeah, and the morgue is dead
[05:05] <Amaranth> was -11 on the flight 3 cd?
[05:05] <KoruptidPryde> the morgue?
[05:05] <KoruptidPryde> Amaranth, noidea... I did a dist-upgrade
[05:05] <Amaranth> the morgue is supposedly supposed to be where packages go after they're removed from the archive
[05:05] <Amaranth> so they're still available but not eating up space on the mirrors
[05:06] <Amaranth> KoruptidPryde: you should download a flight 3 iso, mount it, and see if -11 headers are in it
[05:06] <KoruptidPryde> where does that hide?
[05:06] <KoruptidPryde> and where would the morgue normally be?
[05:07] <Amaranth> morgue.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <Amaranth> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-3/
[05:07] <Amaranth> of course, it's a 650MB download for one package
[05:07] <Amaranth> and you might end up having to get flight 2 instead
[05:10] <KoruptidPryde> I'll just download both
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[05:11] <KoruptidPryde> so what happened to morgue anyway?
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[05:46] <LaserJock> KoruptidPryde: still there?
[05:46] <LaserJock> KoruptidPryde: would
[05:46] <LaserJock> linux-kernel-headers_2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13_i386.deb help?
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[06:41] <zakame> afternoon MOTUs :)
[06:41] <LaserJock> hi zakame
[06:42] <zakame> hello LaserJock :) how's the packagingguide going?
[06:43] <LaserJock> it's going, doc.ubuntu.com has the latest
[06:44] <zakame> w00t
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[07:02] <sid5400> !list
[07:05] <sid5400> !list
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[07:15] <Amaranth> wtf
[07:15] <Amaranth> someone thought this was a warez channel...
[07:17] <zakame> heh
[07:27] <Burgundavia> Amaranth, oh?
[07:28] <Amaranth> yeah, they joined and said "!list" twice, then left
[07:28] <Burgundavia> ah. I know next to nothing about warez
[07:29] <zakame> what would cause uscan to fail with a (Bad protocol: 'tcp') ?
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[07:38] <zakame> aanyway, score another for the freetype transition!
[08:04] <LaserJock> what is the current FSF address?
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[08:04] <LaserJock> Franklin Street or Temple Place?
[08:09] <LaserJock> anybody out there?
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[08:16] <minghua> LaserJock: yes, and the current address is Franklin :-)
[08:17] <LaserJock> minghua: thanks, I went to fsf.org in the mean time ;-)
[08:17] <LaserJock> but it's still nice to know someone is listening :-)
[08:17] <minghua> yeah, thought so, it's not that hard to think of where to look, I suppose
[08:18] <minghua> there are always people listening, don't worry :-)
[08:18] <LaserJock> well, I got confused because there are so many copies of the GPL around
[08:18] <LaserJock> with both addresses
[08:18] <minghua> yeah, my upstream didn't change address either
[08:20] <minghua> it's just quite recently he changed all file headers to match his COPYING file :-P
[08:20] <LaserJock> and I went to gnu.org and they have the franklin address but copyright 1991, which seems a bit old
[08:20] <LaserJock> so I thought maybe they had the old address
[08:20] <LaserJock> well, I'm updating the doc teams version of the GPL since I'm the only one that uses it
[08:20] <LaserJock> and they have the old address
[08:21] <minghua> indeed, I double checked the 1991 date too, didn't believe it at first glance
[08:24] <LaserJock> so they updated the address but not the copyright
[08:30] <minghua> well, I suppose they think the address paragraph is not really part of the license
[08:31] <minghua> anyway, I think there are really enough lawyers and nitpicker looking at GPL that I don't need to worry about it a little bit :-)
[08:31] <LaserJock> right, that is what I was just thinking
[08:34] <minghua> and HONESTLY I don't really see the big point of changing the address, either
[08:34] <LaserJock> yeah, like who actually writes them?
[08:34] <LaserJock> I would email if anything
[08:34] <minghua> I mean, yeah, it is nice to have accurate information, but come on, how many people really write snail mails to FSF asking for GPL copy
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[08:35] <minghua> and can't they set up some permernant mail forwarding or something?
[08:36] <minghua> anyway, that's just ranting, perhaps because I spend about 2 hours total on changing all addresses of my packages :-P
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[08:59] <LaserJock> hi Kyral
[08:59] <LaserJock> doh
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[09:18] <LaserJock> Hi Hobbsee
[09:18] <Hobbsee> hi LaserJock :)
[09:18] <Hobbsee> i'm finally back!
[09:19] <LaserJock> from where?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> adelaide
[09:21] <LaserJock> oh, you were go for a while
[09:21] <Hobbsee> yes
[09:22] <LaserJock> glad to see your back
[09:31] <Hobbsee> thanks :)
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[09:39] <ajmitch> evening
[09:44] <Hobbsee> evening ajmitch
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[09:57] <ajmitch> dholbach!
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[09:58] <dholbach> hello!
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[10:02] <mnencia> hi
[10:03] <mnencia> i'm a debian developer, i've a question about debian/ubuntu integration of package. can i ask here?
[10:04] <ajmitch> sure
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[10:06] <dholbach> mnencia: yeah, this is the (one of the) right places :-)
[10:09] <mnencia> here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/+changelog you can see the cangelog of package libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, the problem is that the changelog entry for version 2.0.3-1 is missing.
[10:09] <ajmitch> might be a launchpad bug, I'll check the source package
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[10:10] <mnencia> i'm tryng to undestand if is my fault, and how to correct these problems in
[10:10] <dholbach> gar, http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql_2.0.2b1-6/changelog.txt doesn't have the newest version
[10:10] <ajmitch> it's unlikely to be your fault
[10:11] <ajmitch> dholbach: use changelogs.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <minghua> mnencia: seeing there is -6ubuntu1 version there, I would say it's most likely not your fault
[10:11] <minghua> mnencia: I think some ubuntu people made some mistake on this side
[10:12] <dholbach> launchpad bug
[10:12] <dholbach> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql_2.0.3-2/changelog
[10:12] <mnencia> minghua: how can i help ubuntu when i'll upload new version of my packages?
[10:12] <ajmitch> dholbach: funnily enough mpt is living only about 2 minutes walk from me now :)
[10:13] <mnencia> dholbach: ok, tnx
[10:13] <dholbach> mnencia: don't worry about the launchpad changelog too much - this part of the infrastructure is heavily worked on this and next week - you might expect better results from then on.
[10:13] <dholbach> Our complete build infrastructure will be administrated via launchpad then.
[10:14] <dholbach> mnencia: Thanks for the headsup.
[10:14] <minghua> mnencia: look at packages.ubuntu.com (where searches work ;-), and if it's the same version number (no -XubuntuY stuff), you shouldn't worry too much
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[10:14] <dholbach> as ajmitch said: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/liba/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql/libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql_2.0.3-2/changelog is the place to be
[10:14] <dholbach> packages.ubuntu.com has it wrong too (i guess it doesnt sync often)
[10:15] <siretart> moin
[10:15] <ajmitch> minghua: packages.ubuntu.com is out of sync
[10:15] <siretart> aah, line1.tauware.de is back again :)
[10:15] <dholbach> hellas siretart
[10:15] <siretart> huhu dholbach
[10:15] <ajmitch> hey siretart
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[10:15] <ajmitch> once my desktop box is alive again
[10:15] <minghua> mnencia: if it indeed is -XubuntuY or an old Debian version, just come here and drop a line or write to the mailing list
[10:15] <minghua> dholbach, ajmitch: thanks for correcting
[10:15] <dholbach> and guys: PLEASE help me check on all the open UVF requests on ubuntu-motu@
[10:16] <mnencia> ok, tenz
[10:16] <minghua> mnencia: yeah, as they said, use changelogs.ubuntu.com instead
[10:16] <ajmitch> dholbach: I can now that LCA is over
[10:16] <siretart> dholbach: are you at the desktp team sprint in london?
[10:16] <dholbach> I want to let people have a clear answer soon.
[10:16] <ajmitch> mnencia: we'll harass the launchpad guys about their bugs
[10:16] <dholbach> siretart: not yet - tomorrow, I'll take the plane from Luxembourg
[10:16] <siretart> dholbach: lucky you ;)
[10:17] <dholbach> siretart: I'm at my parents place today
[10:17] <siretart> ah
[10:17] <siretart> :)
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[10:17] <dholbach> *wave*
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[10:19] <siretart> yay. the first spam arrives again
[10:24] <mnencia> I've another litle question, is there some place in the net where i can requesto to forward me every bug submitted to my packages in ubuntu?
[10:25] <ajmitch> mnencia: at the moment you need to subscribe to each package's bugs on launchpad
[10:25] <mnencia> ajmitch: ok, tnx
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[10:25] <ajmitch> eg launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/packagename/+bugs
[10:25] <ajmitch> or something similar
[10:26] <ajmitch> it's very annoying when you have a few debian packages
[10:28] <siretart> perhaps it will be possible to do that with the email interface some day
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[10:52] <dholbach> Can't you make yourself a default subscriber to a source package?
[10:52] <dholbach> I should think so.
[10:54] <ajmitch> not sure
[10:55] <siretart> dholbach: yes it is, but you need to do that for every package individually
[10:56] <siretart> and I didn't get any email from those subscription yet anyway, so I'm not sure if it works at all
[10:56] <dholbach> I do get them.
[10:56] <dholbach> (more than I want :/)
[10:56] <siretart> oh, then it works :)
[10:56] <siretart> poor daniel ;)
[10:57] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/<source package>/+subscribe
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[11:19] <siretart> launchpad rollout today?
[11:22] <VoX> is dapper going to incorporate gnome 2.14?
[11:22] <dholbach> VoX: yes, 2.14.1 even
[11:22] <VoX> pwoar
[11:22] <VoX> hotsex
[11:22] <dholbach> yeah
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[11:49] <Mithrandir> whiprush: does it hurt? :-)
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[01:00] <siretart> slomo: are the sources to ubuntu xine-lib in our svn repo?
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[01:01] <slomo> siretart: nope... thanks for reminding, i'll do it tomorrow :)
[01:03] <siretart> slomo: ok
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[01:38] <ajmitch_> yay, I've lost sound on my desktop now
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[02:23] <thierry> siretart : if you have time could you review my package? libfxruby1.4
[02:23] <siretart> thierry: sorry, I'm quite busy now. is it really urgent?
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[02:39] <thierry> siretart : well what is the date for stopping to get new packages in dapper? if it's like next week, yes it's urgent but if there's no new package allowed in dapper then no it's not urgent
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[02:43] <dholbach> thierry: Feb 23
[02:45] <thierry> ok so siretart, it's not urgent like today but it could be urgent to do it (if you want of course) in the 5-6 next days...
[02:47] <siretart> dholbach: pwlib? so ekiga is comming soon? :)
[02:47] <dholbach> siretart: yes
[02:47] <dholbach> opal needs to go through NEW
[02:47] <siretart> yay! :)
[02:47] <dholbach> pwlib too
[02:47] <dholbach> and openh323 too
[02:47] <dholbach> some rdepends rebuilds
[02:47] <siretart> pwlib has passed NEW
[02:47] <dholbach> ekiga through NEW
[02:47] <dholbach> seed changes for ekiga, ... :)
[02:48] <siretart> about 10 minutes ago
[02:54] <thierry> dholbach : my package libfxscintilla made it to dapper!!! :D my first package
[02:54] <dholbach> Excellent!
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[02:55] <thierry> now, if someone sends a bug for my package on malone, I'll get a e-mail like if I was subscribing to a bug right?
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[07:33] <LaserJock> crimsun: btw, tightvnc is installable and works wonderfully, thanks for the help
[07:33] <thierry> I can't upgrade my chroot, coreutils complains about overwriting a md5sums file... strange
[07:33] <LaserJock> thierry: what kind of chroot?
[07:33] <thierry> dapper
[07:39] <crimsun> LaserJock: great.
[07:40] <crimsun> LaserJock: If you had waited til today to fix it, you wouldn't have had to kludge debian/rules ;)
[07:40] <LaserJock> really? how come? new imake?
[07:40] <crimsun> imake (1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2) dapper; urgency=low  * Fix xmkmf config path. -- Fabio M. Di Nitto <fabbione@ubuntu.com>  Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:38:56 +0100
[07:40] <LaserJock> thierry: my chroot is upgrading fine, sorry
[07:40] <LaserJock> crimsun: ahhh
[07:41] <thierry> LaserJock : does removing and reinstalling coreutils seems like a good idea?
[07:43] <LaserJock> thierry: hmm, I'm not sure "core" sounds like something you don't want to remove but I'm not sure
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[07:44] <thierry> LaserJock : mmm I don't want to break my chroot, but at the same time, I'd like it to work correctly, wich is not the case right now...
[07:46] <LaserJock> thierry: is your chroot important enough that you don't want delete it and start over?
[07:47] <thierry> well the main thing that disturb me is having to reconfigure my chroot completely
[07:48] <LaserJock> how so?
[07:50] <LaserJock> you could tar the /etc directory
[07:51] <thierry> didn't tough about that :) any command-line thing for that?
[07:51] <LaserJock> and dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections might help too
[07:52] <LaserJock> tar -czf etc.tgz /etc/ ?
[07:52] <thierry> k thanks
[07:53] <LaserJock> you can at least try to remove and reinstall coreutils after you've backed up what you want
[07:54] <thierry> yeah that's what I'm going to do
[07:55] <LaserJock> hmm, but when I did an apt-get -s remove coreutils it was going to remove dpkg
[07:55] <Mithrandir> you generally don't want to remove coreutils.
[07:55] <thierry> yeah but it doesn't want upgrade...
[07:57] <tseng> youll have much bigger problmes if you remove it
[07:57] <thierry> tseng : ok but do I have any other choice?
[07:57] <tseng> yes?
[07:57] <tseng> dont upgrade
[08:00] <thierry> ok ok but, I want to massively fix the no-desktop problem in a BIG number of package, so I made a script to do half the job for me, but I want gedit to changes the file, but gedit doesn't work on my chroot since some time so I wanted to upgrade it, but I need to upgrade coreutils who doesn't want to because of a stupid md5sum file who changed of name!
[08:00] <thierry> and I can't really use nano or something like that since it doesn't let me see more than one file at a time
[08:01] <thierry> tseng : if you have a magic solution for that problem, that would do my day
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[08:17] <thierry> anyone here could tell me how to get gedit working on a dapper chroot, someone already told me how to but I lost the explanation, it was done without installing X on the chroot...
[08:18] <Mithrandir> thierry: bind-mount /tmp into /tmp in the chroot
[08:19] <Mithrandir> so, mount --bind /tmp /path/to/chroot/tmp
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[08:22] <thierry> Mithrandir : I get Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:22] <thierry> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:22] <Mithrandir> you must set DISPLAY too
[08:23] <thierry> how?
[08:23] <Mithrandir> export DISPLAY=:0 ?
[08:24] <thierry> still same thing
[08:25] <Mithrandir> strace the application and see where it goes wrong
[08:25] <thierry> exact commend (I never used strace)
[08:26] <Mithrandir> "strace gedit"
[08:26] <Mithrandir> for instance
[08:26] <thierry> access("/home/thierry/.Xauthority", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[08:26] <tseng> its going to fail because either no xauth
[08:26] <Mithrandir> well, you probably want to bind-mount /home too, then
[08:27] <tseng> or the master server isnt accepting connections
[08:27] <thierry> binding home works
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[08:29] <thierry> except that now my home is in my chroot home!!
[08:30] <Mithrandir> yes?
[08:30] <Mithrandir> you could just set up ssh in the chroot on a different port and do ssh -X -p 1234 localhost as well
[08:30] <tseng> not if he doesnt install xauth he cant
[08:31] <Mithrandir> well, install xauth, then. :-P
[08:33] <dholbach> I'll call it the day and go packing - see you.
[08:35] <Mithrandir> dholbach, now in _three_ channels.
[08:35] <dholbach> Mithrandir: hm?
[08:35] <Mithrandir> dholbach: just that you said the exact same thing in a lot of different channels.
[08:36] <ogra> Mithrandir, yes, he loves to broadcast over freenet :)
[08:36] <dholbach> Mithrandir: I wanted to say goodbye to everybody.
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[08:36] <ogra> i always click through all channels to read the same :)
[08:36] <dholbach> *wave*
[08:36] <Mithrandir> dholbach: see you tomorrow, then
[08:36] <ogra> (inhsert "as well" at appropriate places)
[08:36] <dholbach> :-)
[08:36] <Mithrandir> enjoy your flight
[08:37] <ogra> ciao dholbach
[08:37] <dholbach> Thanks. I'll go on seb128's nerves - that'll be great.
[08:37] <ogra> heh
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[08:39] <Gloubiboulga> someone has time for a review ?
[08:39] <Gloubiboulga> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1616
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[10:28] <phlaegel> Quick packaging question: I want to rebuild a package with a minor change. I've done apt-get source and made my change. What do I use to rebuild the package? I don't want to (and don't have room to) set up a pbuilder environment right now...
[10:40] <phlaegel> never mind, I think I figured it out
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