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signifer123can linux od shared drives for users novell style?12:02
smykesdont know12:03
signifer123do*12:03
smykesIm out12:03
smykesthanks for the help12:03
signifer123k cya later man12:03
signifer123hopefully12:03
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signifer123hey mhz01:19
mhzhey signifer123 01:19
signifer123what gradebooks does edubuntu have man?01:19
signifer123:_p01:19
signifer123hows life been?01:21
signifer123:_p01:21
mhzsignifer123: sorry, I was on the phone01:53
mhzGradeBooks?01:54
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signifer123yeah02:13
signifer123like ggradebook02:13
signifer123or opengrade02:13
signifer123to hold student grade :_p02:13
signifer123:-P02:13
signifer123someone asked earlier02:13
mhznope, not default02:19
mhzbut available via APT or Synaptic02:19
signifer123which ones on synaptic?02:22
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signifer123cya02:25
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deangcould somebody point me in the direction to get the disabled screen savers enabled/installed in edubuntu?03:39
Burgundaviadeang, you want to know what is installed but not enabled03:51
Burgundavia?03:51
deangBack, sorry.04:01
deangIn Screensaver Preferences, a good number of Display Modes are in grey (as opposed to black), with the preview window titled "Not Installed"04:02
Burgundaviahmm, edubuntu uses the same screensaver package as ubuntu, so you might want to ask in #ubuntu04:02
deangIt was surprising, as I have seen the whole list enabled on my past Ubuntu usage.  I expected to be able to install them via Synaptics, but, for instance, the search for Gears didn't turn up a screansaver.04:05
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aboeI got a question for the edubuntu team08:11
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Burgundaviahighvoltage, long time, no see09:33
highvoltageBurgundavia: yep yep09:40
highvoltageBurgundavia: been very, very busy09:40
highvoltageworking everyday of the week, whole day09:40
highvoltageBurgundavia: at the moment i'm working a bit on tuXlab Xola09:41
highvoltageit's currently pre-alpha, if you can call it that09:41
highvoltagehttp://jonathancarter.ossn.co.za/projects/xola/index.py09:41
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Burgundaviahighvoltage, cool thing. Can I make a suggestion as to the UI?09:54
highvoltageBurgundavia: of course!09:54
BurgundaviaI was initially baffled as to where the solution was09:54
highvoltagei thought that might be a problem09:54
highvoltageit's not that obvious that the text on the left is changing09:55
BurgundaviaIf possible, maybe open another bubble on the right underneath the current one with the solution on eit09:55
highvoltagehmmm... it's possible, but it's a bit space intensive09:55
Burgundaviathat makes it very obivious you have arrived at a solution point, and not a another question point09:55
highvoltagei think i'll have to decrease the font size and penguin heads at some stage anyway09:55
highvoltageyes, it does09:55
Burgundaviaoh, and you need a back button09:56
highvoltagei know :)09:56
highvoltagethat's why its pre-alpha :)09:56
Burgundaviamaybe show a hierarchy of where they are in the problem tree?09:56
highvoltagethat's a very good idea09:56
highvoltagei will bring that in on a later level09:56
Burgundavianuke one of the penguin heads and put it there09:56
highvoltageeventually, I want a wiki style editor for the problem/solution tree09:56
highvoltageso that the tuxlab help desk can maintain it09:57
BurgundaviaI would maybe expand the logo for tuxlaps, nuke the two large heads and use the logo to do the talking09:57
Burgundaviathen maybe have the two boxes inline vertical instead of horizontal09:57
highvoltageon the local version on my laptop, i also now have a think bubble coming out of the red penguins head, with pictures of the stuff he's talking about09:57
highvoltagethat's also a good idea09:57
Burgundaviabut a very cool idea09:58
=== highvoltage copies and pastes all of this into a text file
Burgundaviawhy don't you just modify moin to do what you want to do?09:58
Burgundaviahendrik might be able to help you on that, after all the main ubuntu website is currently in moin09:58
=== highvoltage is not sure how that would work
Burgundaviathat gives you the editing right away09:59
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Burgundaviabut it also allows you to restrict to a small group, via ACLs09:59
highvoltagetrue10:00
highvoltagemoin is big though10:00
Burgundaviaya10:00
Burgundaviayou really want to be able to distribute this easily, in a single flat file if possible10:00
highvoltageit might be a bit overkill for something like this10:00
Burgundaviabecause you need it in places that don't have constant internet access10:00
highvoltageyes, at the moment it's one python script, one css file, and 4 images :)10:00
highvoltageyes.10:00
highvoltagea future version will probably use a sqlite database10:01
Burgundaviahow does it look at 640x480?10:01
highvoltagecurrently it's all staticly coded10:01
BurgundaviaI imagine there must be a fair number of older monitors in ZA10:01
highvoltageit looks horrible at 640x48010:01
highvoltagewe don't use anything older than 1024x768 in tuxlabs10:01
Burgundaviaah, ok10:01
highvoltage(or less, at least)10:01
highvoltageif it's less than 800x600, we consider it broken10:01
Burgundaviado you use new monitors?10:01
highvoltagenot at the moment10:02
highvoltagewe've used new monitors in about 3 labs so far10:02
highvoltageit seems that new monitors and old monitors last just as long :)10:02
highvoltageor at least, an old, good quality monitor is better than a cheapo new monitor10:02
Burgundaviayes, I have an old 17" here that is about to be donated to someone, as it is a CRT10:02
highvoltageyou10:03
highvoltageyou're getting rid of all your CRT's?10:03
highvoltagei do like lcd displays, nice and compact.10:03
Burgundaviayou can't buy them in NA anymore, except for a few 21"10:03
highvoltagewow.10:03
BurgundaviaI don't think I have seen a new computer sold with a CRT for about six months10:04
Burgundaviaoh, and kill the blank background10:04
highvoltageoh yes, the layout of the tuxlab troubleshooter will probably change completely by the time it reaches any kind of 'finished' state. what you're seeing now is still toying around, it's still in a bit of a conceptual stage :)10:04
Burgundaviawhat distro do you guys use for the tuxlabs>?10:04
highvoltagethe black background is currently there because the penguins aren't whole, if you select all in the page you'll see that :/10:05
highvoltagei'm waiting on the graphical designer to send me some nice pics10:05
highvoltagecurrently, Ubuntu10:05
highvoltagewe plan to switch all the schools to Edubuntu after Dapper's release10:05
Burgundaviaso you could roll a .deb and have it preinstalled on all tuxlabs?10:05
highvoltageyep10:06
highvoltagewhen it's finished i'll change the logos a bit for edubuntu too10:06
Burgundaviahttp://blogs.gnome.org/view/shaunm/2006/01/28/0 <-- I almost wonder if you could do this in docbook and yelp with less pain10:07
Burgundaviasaves you the development pain10:07
highvoltagethat's really cool.10:11
highvoltageit would be nice to be able to make the troubleshooting tree in docbook, and then from there generate a bunch of html pages linking to each other10:11
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Burgundaviayelp has had some major improvments in spend of rending XML for the 2.14 release10:12
Burgundaviachosing an existing technology would allow you to concentrate on creating the content10:12
highvoltagetrue, but it might make things more complicated too, as pointed out earlier10:15
highvoltagei want to keep it as small and customisable as possible10:15
highvoltagebut i will definately have to look at that docbook option, it might make things simpler too10:15
Burgundaviathere is also some cool things happening the XML in and out of moin space10:16
Burgundaviathat might allow you to develop in a moin wiki and ship periodic code drops10:16
juliuxhi highvoltage 10:21
juliuxhighvoltage, it is possible that you give someonelese op here?10:22
Burgundaviajuliux, doesn't ogra have it?10:23
juliuxhighvoltage, because we have for a few days here somebody who joins and quit over 20minutes and we had to ask the freenode people to ban him10:23
juliuxBurgundavia, no10:23
juliuxBurgundavia, only highvoltage 10:23
highvoltagehmmm... let me check10:23
juliux /cs access #edubuntu list10:24
Burgundaviaif I have ops on a channel with one nick and I link another nick to it, does that give my other nick ops as well?10:25
highvoltagegeez, I can't remember my chanserv password10:25
highvoltagei'll have to mail freenode on that10:26
highvoltagejuliux: i'll sort it out10:26
juliuxhighvoltage, thanks10:26
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highvoltagejuliux: giving you ops until janeW and ogra are on the channel11:05
juliuxhighvoltage, and what should i do then?11:05
highvoltagei'll give them ops, so you don't have to do anything11:06
juliuxah ok11:06
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agente87hello 12:58
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highvoltagehello agente87 01:18
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flint_highvoltage, hi  Jonathan 03:03
highvoltagehi mr flint!03:04
highvoltageyou even got my name right03:04
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highvoltageflint_: how are you?03:06
flint_I actually had to go and look it up :^) but I wanted to make an effort.  03:17
flint_highvoltage, Johnathan, where can I get a copy of the TuxLab document?03:18
flint_fuck... /jonathan!!! i meant!!!!03:18
highvoltage:)03:18
highvoltagethe original cookbook?03:18
highvoltageone second...03:18
flint_exactly,03:18
highvoltagehere it is: http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za/Members/jean/cookbook/docbook/cookbook.html03:19
highvoltagewould you like it in docbook?03:19
highvoltagei could get it for you too if youlike03:19
flint_spank you very much.  na, I want to print it and read it as you intended...03:19
flint_wizzys and all03:20
jsgotangcoa lot of the introductory text are adapted from RMS material03:24
flint_jsgotangco, that is not a bad thing...03:25
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jsgotangconot at all03:25
jsgotangcothe docbook source is located at the tsf website though03:25
flint_highvoltage, did you have a 'thang' going with Leonora van Staden03:38
flint_?03:38
flint_I mean... it's sorta none of my business... but she did do a servicable job in illustration,03:39
flint_you are a young man, and... one never knows about these things, and mayb one should not speculate...03:39
flint_her art is quite original.03:41
flint_highvoltage,  Jonathan?  Note this question was not supposed to piss you off...  I have completely forgotten if you are already married or whatever... (you get old and the memory goes second :^)03:42
jsgotangcohahaha03:42
flint_jsgotangco, now easy there big guy, I was just asking a harmless (albiet personal) question....03:43
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flint_(LOL :^)03:43
flint_jsgotangco, you do not think he is so offended that his rage has silenced  Jonathan's response do you?03:45
flint_jsgotangco, like what do you know of this?03:45
flint_:^)03:45
highvoltageflint_: not that i know of. i might have been very drunk. who is she again?03:46
highvoltageoh the illustrations :)03:47
highvoltagejean jordaan got the girl to draw them up, i had nothing to do with it i swear!03:47
highvoltageand you can ask me anything, i'm not easily offended :)03:48
highvoltageoh, and i do happen to be single at the moment, you can't work the hours i do and maintain a girlfriend!03:48
flint_highvoltage, jonathan, you are clearly the Dude...03:55
jsgotangcohow do you maintain a girlfriend? do you grease it ever so often or stuff?03:59
highvoltagejsgotangco: you spend time with her :)04:00
highvoltagejsgotangco: if you don't, she yells and screams and eventually leaves you04:00
highvoltagejsgotangco: last year, i had to choose between girlfriend and going to linuxworld04:00
jsgotangcolinuxworld is nice04:01
highvoltageyep, it was great.04:01
highvoltageomg is this the time already04:02
highvoltagei think it's time that i go home04:02
highvoltagegoodbye everyone!04:02
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highvoltagejsgotangco: if you see ogra or janew around, just do an /op name please04:02
highvoltagecheers!04:02
jsgotangcoheh why not just call chanserv :/04:03
jsgotangcooh he left already04:03
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juliuxjsgotangco, highvoltage fergot is chanserv password04:10
jsgotangcooh great and he doesn't remember that i'm in +8 timezone04:11
juliuxso what04:11
jsgotangcoim about to sleep04:11
juliuxhehe04:11
flint_hey jsgotangco what is an /op name?04:13
jsgotangcooh he just meant i pass channel op to ogra or janew04:13
juliuxflint_, then you get op here04:13
flint_juliux, suppose I want to shirk responsibility as I have my entire miserable life?04:14
flint_juliux, I need to log the conversation with hivoltage.  This stuff is great!!!  How do I do it, besides cut and paste?04:16
juliuxflint_, there is a log in the internet of this channel i think04:17
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jsgotangco\sh_away, please op ogra or janew when you are back when you see them thanks04:18
jsgotangcoi gotta sleep04:18
jsgotangco:)04:18
juliuxflint_, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/edubuntu-current.html04:18
juliuxflint_, there is a log file04:18
flint_juliux, keep in mind I am EST.  The sun is just rising here...04:19
juliuxEST ?04:19
lucasvoeastern standard time04:19
juliuxthxs lucasvo 04:19
lucasvomust be somewhere india/asia04:20
lucasvoor russia04:20
flint_lucasvo, nah, much colder, Vermont USA.04:21
lucasvoho?04:21
juliuxflint_, how cold it is by you ?04:21
flint_I have achieved the status of Political Refugee...04:21
flint_Today Warm two days ago -5 F.04:22
juliuxmoment i have to check what it is in celsius04:22
lucasvojuliux:  google: -5 farenheit to celsius04:22
juliuxlucasvo, i have a wether applet04:23
lucasvoah04:23
juliuxlucasvo, an here we have 30 F and this is -1 Celsius04:23
flint_Gentlemen, I have a wife, and now honeydos... gotta go. :^(04:23
lucasvoflint_: why are you a refugee?04:23
juliuxcu04:23
lucasvocu04:23
flint_Born in DC.  Left Holloween. Now in Vermont.  I have a personal problem with Military Facisism... call me a wimp.04:24
flint_Gallaudet, the school for the Deaf in DC USA, has been using tty since forever.  Their prefered signoff is to send the abreviation os "Stop Key. Stop Key" or sksk.  I like this. 04:26
flint_sksk04:26
crimsun...I missed something04:27
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digitalnovaim a newb to nix.  I went into terminal, used sudo to create a win32 directory under /usr/lib  so i can put some ASF codecs for totem in there.05:05
digitalnovaell , after i created the dir win32, i went into file manager, and the dir wasnt there?05:05
digitalnovals -ld /usr/lib/win32     gets me file dir not found05:05
digitalnovabut i can CD into win3205:05
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jelknerflint: you here, paul?05:36
lucasvomy sister has problem with keyboard layout05:40
lucasvoit is strange, it always changes to US again05:40
lucasvoshe can't turn on CHE in gnome05:40
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MeeKsanyone here06:31
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steelballzogra: Are you on?06:54
steelballzhelpme06:54
MeeKsim having trouble getting my wireless networking running with kubuntu07:05
MeeKsit wont work wired either07:05
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steelballzhelpme07:14
spaceywhats wrong steelballz 07:16
steelballzOgra was helping me yesterday trying to get ltsp to work on amd64 flight307:19
steelballzNothing worked so I tried a full install of daily 20060116 i386 and no there either07:20
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spaceyhmm, afraid thats to specific for me07:26
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signifer123hey08:48
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