[12:04] <seth> Riddell, any idea why for the past week, every time I boot up, kded crashes about 50-60 times?
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[10:58] <nlindblad> is the page down?
[10:58] <nlindblad> (the Ubuntu one)
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[11:10] <kkathman> is anyone here using Quanta to edit docbook xml files and bind them to the xslt using the xsldbg tool thats embedded?
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[05:45] <Tonio_> hello everyone
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[07:41] <mrec_> hi, anyone awake?
[07:43] <mrec_> wonder if anyone of you guys could add: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Em2880
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[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> hey
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i got an idea on something to add
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Mount-ISO-image-2216.shtml
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> ^ mount iso image 0.9.1
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i have no clue how to make a package of it
[09:11] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but its very handy
[09:16] <RJ_Not_Ajay> when anyone bothers to read this, just remember i have no freaking clue how to develop under linux
[09:19] <Tm_T> err, you can mount iso image with normal mount
[09:19] <Tm_T> you don't need any extra tool for it
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i know
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but this is a graphical tool
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> and besides
[09:22] <Tm_T> sounds' bad
[09:22] <Tm_T> -'
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i dont remember the exact command to moutn an image
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> hey
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i could make a simpler one
[09:22] <Tm_T> RJ_Not_Ajay: man mount ;)
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i know
[09:22] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but try telling a n00b how to mount an iso
[09:23] <Tm_T> RJ_Not_Ajay: tell him to read manual, or tell the line what is in manual
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i just think its more important to make graphical tools for this kind of stuff
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> come on
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> this is kubuntu
[09:23] <Tm_T> because _reading manual_ IS important
[09:23] <Tm_T> I know
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> if it was gentoo or slackware
[09:23] <mornfall> what?
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i would do that
[09:23] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but kubuntu is SUPPOSED TO BE EASY
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> and even though i aggree with you
[09:24] <Tm_T> yes, but not to consider users as idiots
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i think it is in the best insterest of this distro to put a tool like this in
[09:24] <Tm_T> like gnome does
[09:24] <Tm_T> RJ_Not_Ajay: maybe
[09:24] <mornfall> or no
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i suggest you try it
[09:24] <Tm_T> hehe
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> and consider it
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> thats all
[09:24] <Tm_T> aye, considering
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> well
[09:24] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i say consider
[09:25] <Tm_T> but I'd say maybe no
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i mean:
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> do it
[09:25] <Tm_T> haha
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> well... maybe if i changed my nickname to Red_Herring...
[09:25] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: i don't find it very useful, it needs sudo
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[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i dont feel like going all the way up to my room
[09:25] <RJ_Not_Ajay> mornfall, you can make it so it uses kdesu
[09:26] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: no that's not the problem
[09:26] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: the problem is that the user needs root
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> so?
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> if they were to use mount
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> they would have the same problem
[09:26] <Tm_T> hmm, no
[09:26] <RJ_Not_Ajay> what?
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> no, mount needs to be ran as root, right?
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> whatever
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i got to go
[09:27] <mornfall> Tm_T: yes they would, you don't generally have fstab entries for random iso files :)
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[09:27] <Tm_T> mornfall: true =)
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i SEROUSLY suggest you use ANYTHING LIKE THIS to mount isos
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> that doesnt require the terminal
[09:27] <Tm_T> uh oh
[09:27] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i could even write one myself
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but i think one of you would be best at it
[09:28] <mornfall> that's probably because 95% of users daily mount isos
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> well...
[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> bit torrent works best under linux
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[09:28] <RJ_Not_Ajay> thats all i have to say
[09:28] <Tm_T> what isos have anything to do with bittorrent?
[09:28] <mornfall> Tm_T: downloading gamez? :-)
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> (most games are in .iso formats)
[09:29] <mornfall> lol
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> not that i download them
[09:29] <Tm_T> mornfall: don't talk about warez to me
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> but the thing is
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> if 5% of kubuntu users mount isos
[09:29] <Tm_T> the thing is, we don't need support warez
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> we owe to to them to at least give them the option to mount it w/ konqueror
[09:29] <RJ_Not_Ajay> so?
[09:29] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: *owe*? what have you been smoking lately?
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> i made an iso of a futurama dvd i bought
[09:30] <Tm_T> so, I don't care if someones warez work or not
[09:30] <Tm_T> better not
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> you guys want n00bs to use kubuntu, right?
[09:30] <Tm_T> they do use
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> yeah
[09:30] <mornfall> i generally don't care
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> you think they know how to mount an iso?
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> come on
[09:30] <Tm_T> and noone has complained about "can't mount iso"
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> sure
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> look in the forums
[09:30] <RJ_Not_Ajay> theres at least 10
[09:31] <RJ_Not_Ajay> threads
[09:31] <RJ_Not_Ajay> about it
[09:31] <RJ_Not_Ajay> to me thats important
[09:31] <mornfall> RJ_Not_Ajay: so do something about it 
[09:31] <mornfall> ah ah
[09:31] <mornfall> i said "do" not "talk and then disappear
[09:31] <mornfall> "
[09:31] <Tm_T> haha
[09:35] <mornfall> f-r-e-a-k
[09:35] <Tm_T> I have 0-tolerance to pro-warez
[09:36] <Tm_T> if you don't wanna buy, you don't ask support
[09:43] <luka74> I would like to make dapper to configure laptop keys out-of-box as it it already true for ubuntu (gnome)
[09:44] <luka74> I do not understand where is the right location to configure global keys for kde - currently I use xmodmap workaround
[09:45] <luka74> Is there any better way (or better: how is this done for gnome)?
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