[12:03] <GameOver69> hey guys are there any good dc++ programs... i have linux dc++ but im not really diggin it
[12:04] <bunghole> hi
[12:04] <slow-motion> n8
[12:04] <bunghole> im holding a hot dog
[12:05] <LjL> GameOver69: you could try valknut
[12:05] <bunghole> i just now installed kubuntu, and the fonts are huge.  is there a way to change the dpi without having to restart X with -dpi 96
[12:07] <bunghole> anyone
[12:12] <ClayG> whats the name of that script nalioth is involved with ?
[12:12] <ClayG> anyone know?
[12:15] <tech9iner> bunghole.. damn.. missed me old dad again huh..
[12:15] <tech9iner> rofl
[12:15] <Tm_T> easyubuntu
[12:15] <Tm_T> ClayG:
[12:15] <ClayG> thanks
[12:15] <tech9iner> oh wait.. that'd be dunghole.. nm.. ;] 
[12:15] <LiteHedded> !samba
[12:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:20] <sorush20> hi guys how do refressh the k menu?
[12:20] <Hobbsee> sorush20: killall kicker && kicker
[12:20] <LiteHedded> I need samba help
[12:22] <sorush20> LiteHedded: go to #samba
[12:23] <LiteHedded> yea thanks...
[12:23] <sorush20> np
[12:34] <LiteHedded> not getting any response in #samba
[12:34] <LiteHedded> can someone here help me?
[12:36] <xatalinux> hello
[12:36] <zeeshan_> vow
[12:36] <che_benway> hi all. need to streamline my system cause i suspect there's a lot of stuff that i don't need. running kubuntu breezy. any idea where i can find out exactly what i can safely remove?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> che_benway: howto on ubuntuforums.org - in the howto section
[12:37] <xatalinux> i don't have sound in kubuntu can someone hellp me in thise way?
[12:38] <xatalinux> i'm very new in linux and i don't know so much about
[12:39] <che_benway> Hobbsee: thanks. was just doing it individually in adept. just don't want to remove anything critical
[12:39] <kkathman> xatalinux: whats the issue?
[12:39] <xatalinux> i don't have any sound in my com
[12:40] <xatalinux> what i must install ?
[12:40] <zeeshan_> i like the internet.
[12:40] <kkathman> xatalinux:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28Sound%29
[12:41] <kkathman> xatalinux: some problems are simple, others not so simple...try the simple ones first.
[12:41] <xatalinux> also i install some new programs and i don't see the icons in my com
[12:41] <xatalinux> k
[12:41] <xatalinux> thanks
[12:41] <kkathman> xatalinux: did you install breezy ?
[12:42] <xatalinux> i really don't know
[12:42] <xatalinux> but is posibil
[12:42] <kkathman> xatalinux: uhmm you want to check that our...what version you installed
[12:43] <kkathman> xatalinux: check what version of ubuntu you installed
[12:43] <ubuntu> hola!
[12:43] <xatalinux> were a can check this?
[12:43] <flipjarg> has anyone had any problems using the "Administrator" button when they're trying to change settings?
[12:43] <Hobbsee> flipjarg: yes, use kdesu kcontrol instead
[12:44] <Hobbsee> ie, alt+f2, kdesu kcontrol
[12:44] <flipjarg> Jeeze, thank god i thoughs omething was screwed up.
[12:44] <kkathman> xatalinux: are you running off of a disk only?  I.e what disk did you install from?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> anyone tried the kde3.5.1 on dapper?  how's it work?
[12:44] <kkathman> Hobbsee: was waiting for an off. announcement from Kubuntu.org
[12:45] <LiteHedded> d'oh!
[12:45] <LiteHedded> rebooting the windows box did it
[12:45] <kkathman> ahhh Ive been away most of the day
[12:45] <kkathman> thats a test tho
[12:45] <Hobbsee> yes, i was wondering if anyone's tried it
[12:45] <Hobbsee> so have i
[12:45] <kkathman> geez
[12:45] <kkathman> touchy today
[12:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[12:46] <xatalinux> i instal ubuntu for intel 386
[12:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to bind an hotkey to show the desktop in kubuntu? like the win+d in windows
[12:48] <Raerklegler> Hi, can anyone give me a hand? Im stuck on the last part of the installation
[12:48] <alvito> buenas noches
[12:48] <Hobbsee> Raerklegler: more info?
[12:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to bind an hotkey to show the desktop in kubuntu? like the win+d in windows
[12:48] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: see in kcontrol, keyboard shortcuts
[12:48] <Raerklegler>  Everything seems to have completed and now im in some sort of terminal and i have no clue on how to get to KDE
[12:48] <Hobbsee> Raerklegler: try startx
[12:48] <LiteHedded> !ati
[12:48] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:48] <Raerklegler> lets see
[12:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i know that....... but which is the command to show the desktop?
[12:49] <Raerklegler> yep, that kinda worked but it threw me back to where I was, it might be the ATI x600 vid card
[12:52] <flipjarg> %t
[12:53] <Raerklegler> I get this error in the log when I startx: FATAL SERVER ERROR: no screens found.
[12:53] <xatalinux> kkathman:it is a special comand in konsole for sound?
[12:54] <kkathman> xatalinux: nope..not usually...did you check over that page?
[12:54] <xatalinux> yes
[12:54] <kkathman> xatalinux: also, if we dont know what version you installed, its a little hard to help.
[12:55] <kkathman> xatalinux: however, do you have NO sound at all, or just through your media players?
[12:55] <xatalinux> i can find somthing in synaptic ?
[12:55] <xatalinux> i don't have at allsound
[12:56] <xatalinux> sorry i have a litle quastion if you don't mind
[12:57] <xatalinux> were a can go to check to see what versione i have ?
[12:57] <kkathman> xatalinux:  are you running KDE?
[12:57] <xatalinux> yes
[12:57] <kkathman> ahh ok
[12:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to bind an hotkey to show the desktop in kubuntu? like the win+d in windows
[12:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok using kcontrol, but which is the command to show the desktop?
[01:01] <`Nomad> Hi..  I have an application that starts up everytime I boot recently, DVD-Author.  It"s not in my Autostart folder, nor in the global Autostart?  Where is it starting from?  I can't even find an rc.local
[01:01] <Hobbsee> oh, i thought it was there
[01:02] <Raerklegler> I get this error in the log when I startx: FATAL SERVER ERROR: no screens found.
[01:02] <kkathman> autostart is in your home dir/.kde
[01:02] <Raerklegler> well, but i cant start
[01:03] <Raerklegler> somehow, this is related to my ati x600
[01:04] <`Nomad> I know, but that dvd-Author software is not in my .kde/Autostart, nor in teh global one
[01:04] <`Nomad> That's why I can't figure out where it starts from.. Did someone implement a windows-like registry behind mu back?? hehe
[01:04] <`Nomad> my back
[01:06] <kkathman> you might trace back to either inittab or possibly your /etc/trc3 directory and see if its there
[01:06] <kkathman> rc3 not trc
[01:06] <`Nomad> oh maybe
[01:08] <xatalinux> i have install some programs in kubuntu from synaptic but i can find the icons....were i can find them?
[01:08] <dark_suic> maybe they don't have icon...
[01:09] <dark_suic> what are this programs?
[01:09] <`Nomad> nope, not there
[01:09] <xatalinux> when i open synaptic show me are instaled
[01:09] <LiteHedded> can someone help me with ati?
[01:09] <xatalinux> but i can not see the programs
[01:10] <xatalinux> for example i install opera
[01:10] <dark_suic> xata
[01:10] <dark_suic> what programs
[01:10] <dark_suic> try this
[01:10] <xatalinux> opera
[01:10] <dark_suic> alt+f2 -> write opera there and hit enter
[01:10] <xatalinux> i can open only with run comand
[01:10] <xatalinux> k
[01:11] <xatalinux> thanks
[01:11] <dark_suic> you'll probably have to restart kde to make the icons appear (i know there is a faster way, but i can't remember it)
[01:11] <LiteHedded> anyone?
[01:11] <dark_suic> if you restart kde you'll probably get the icons
[01:11] <xatalinux> k
[01:11] <xatalinux> i restart the com but is the same problem
[01:12] <`Nomad> refreshing the desktop may work
[01:12] <dark_suic> still no icons?
[01:12] <dark_suic> strange...
[01:13] <xatalinux> normaly i must find in internet from K menu
[01:13] <xatalinux> but is not
[01:13] <xatalinux> with run comand it work
[01:13] <cerdg> when someone has a moment, I need a bit of help with a video card
[01:14] <xatalinux> olso i instal some games and is the same problem about icons
[01:15] <`Nomad> xata: even after you restarted?
[01:15] <xatalinux> yes
[01:15] <cerdg> xatalinux:  have you tried manually creating a shortcut?
[01:15] <`Nomad> xata: Try reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-80394.html
[01:16] <xatalinux> k
[01:16] <xatalinux> thanks
[01:16] <`Nomad> For some reason there are many more things showing up in teh Debian menu than teh reg. KDE one
[01:18] <xatalinux> k
[01:18] <xatalinux> and i must install debian menu to can have acces for more aplication?
[01:21] <flipjarg> Gerkins: what are you for?
[01:21] <flipjarg> !girkins
[01:21] <ubotu> No idea, flipjarg
[01:22] <flipjarg> Gherkins hello
[01:22] <flipjarg> !Ghirkins hello
[01:22] <ubotu> flipjarg: I give up, what is it?
[01:22] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[01:22] <flipjarg> !Grace
[01:22] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:22] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, flipjarg
[01:24] <flipjarg> !info K3b-mp3
[01:24] <ubotu> k3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[01:25] <flipjarg> msg/ ubotu
[01:25] <robotgeek> flipjarg: /msg ubotu
[01:25] <flipjarg> yeah, sorry. i just got it. Thanks :-)
[01:25] <robotgeek>  /msg ubotu info k3b-mp3
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have two groups.... ftp and andrea
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i added the user andrea to the group ftp
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and changed group permissions of a folder to rw-
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why can't i access the folder?
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do i have to reboot after i change the group seetings of the current user?
[01:43] <omri1> hello everyone
[01:43] <owner> tallial like this
[01:44] <owner> chown -R user:user /folder
[01:44] <owner> user being the user you want to give permissions to
[01:44] <owner> you may need to add sudo before chown
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that folder have to remain of ftp user at least
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> because otherwise the ftp daemon can't use it
[01:44] <owner> chmod 0777
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[01:45] <owner> sudo chmod0777 /folder
[01:46] <omri1> I'm a windows user trying to make the long overdue transition to Linux. I've installed Kubuntu and was very impressed at the ease of installation and how things actually worked without me having to work hard for it. (I have some experience at installing debian and ubuntu a few versions ago). However it seems to me that Kubuntu works much slower than my Windows installation and I was wondering if there are optimizations I can do to make it work
[01:46] <omri1> when browsing the web using Firefox. It takes it longer than windows respond to my actions..
[01:47] <owner> !tell omril about dma
[01:48] <omri1> owner: the !tell command didn't do anything yet.. is the bot working?
[01:49] <owner> ubotu tell omril about dma
[01:49] <Hobbsee> yes it is - check your private messages?
[01:49] <owner> !dma
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i start don't undestanding something
[01:49] <omri1> I suppose the private window is just supposed to open in Konversation?
[01:50] <owner> !dma
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can browse a folder only once its permissions are executable??
[01:50] <owner> no tallial
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i thaught read permissions..
[01:50] <xatalinux> thank you very much because you help me to can see all my programs (icons)
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> look
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> from no permission
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> with sudo chmod +rw folder
[01:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can't access it
[01:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> with sudo chmod +rwx folder i can
[01:51] <Hobbsee> omri1: yes
[01:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> access i mean "cd folder"
[01:51] <omri1> then nothing happened.. which bot is it so that I can /msg it?
[01:51] <xatalinux> i install debian ....is very good ....again thanks ....
[01:51] <Hobbsee> omri1: ubotu
[01:52] <xatalinux> Sound server informational message:
[01:52] <xatalinux> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[01:52] <xatalinux> device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)
[01:52] <xatalinux> The sound server will continue, using the null output device.
[01:52] <omri1> Hobbsee: it tells me it doesn't know what !dma is
[01:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> owner: look here http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6PtKIh49.html
[01:52] <Hobbsee> !+dma
[01:52] <ubotu> well, dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[01:52] <omri1> oh, ok. it works
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> owner: ??
[01:54] <xatalinux> what i can do with this (about the sound )
[01:56] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: what's the problem?  it looks like it worked
[01:57] <owner> yes
[01:57] <omri1> Ok, i've read about dma but it doesn't seem to be the problem. First of all, it works, and second I don't have problems at the speed of access to my cd/dvd but rather the OS itself works slow, especially Firefox
[01:57] <owner> chmod -w nowrite
[01:57] <owner> will make files read only
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: yes, but i change the execution permissions instead of the read
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: is that normal?
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to have read access to a folder i have to change its execution permissions?
[01:59] <owner> chmod a=rwx = chmod 077
[01:59] <Hobbsee> um....
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so x is for access, w is for read only of its files?
[01:59] <owner> chmod a=rwx = chmod 0777
[01:59] <owner> you get the idea
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oooo ok
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[02:00] <owner> np
[02:00] <sabin> I'm having a graphics problem with the kubuntu 5.10 live cd
[02:01] <omri1> owner: do you know of anything else I can check? perhaps change some configuration? I'm sure there are many default programs I don't need that I might remove but I don't know which, etc..
[02:02] <sabin> when it starts X and loads the desktop enviroment the screen flashes and then all I get is vertical blue bars
[02:02] <owner> omril what are you computer specs?
[02:02] <sabin> I have a 660
[02:03] <sabin> 6600
[02:03] <omri1> It's a laptop, Dell Latitude 640C, 256MB, 2 GHz (i think)
[02:03] <omri1> Pentium M
[02:08] <Mythril> for some reason two different passwords are required for 'su' and 'sudo', how do I fix this?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> Mythril: just use sudo
[02:10] <LjL> Mythril: there's no password for "su", as there is no root password in ubuntu
[02:10] <LiteHedded> how do i change the clock from military time on the kde taskbar?
[02:11] <LiteHedded> !samba
[02:11] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:12] <LjL> LiteHedded: right click, date and time format
[02:13] <LiteHedded> I don't see it in there LjL
[02:13] <mase_> hey guys whats the default KDE cd ripper called?
[02:14] <Hobbsee> mase_: kscd
[02:14] <LjL> LiteHedded: time and dates, time format
[02:14] <calidad> Greetings... I can not  start my modem with KPPP... When I try to connect, only appears "modem busy"... any advice please?
[02:14] <mase_> thats not it Hobbsee
[02:15] <Hobbsee> er, so it isnt...
[02:15] <LiteHedded> what should it say?
[02:15] <LiteHedded> HH MM ?
[02:15] <LjL> LiteHedded: the one with "AM PM"
[02:15] <LiteHedded> oh ok didn't know what that meant
[02:16] <Hobbsee> mase_: kaudiocreator
[02:16] <mase_> yeah
[02:16] <mase_> that
[02:16] <Xemanth^^> does kaudiocreator rip in lame with freedb search ?
[02:17] <omri1> well, thanks everyone, goodnight
[02:17] <LjL> Xemanth^^: i don't know, but the package doesn't list any freedb/cddb/musicbrainz dependency
[02:18] <mase_> Xemanth^^: yeah i guess
[02:18] <mase_> but i want to know the other method KaudioCreator gets its file names
[02:19] <Xemanth^^> hmm sounds nice software :>
[02:19] <Xemanth^^> i better try tomorrow
[02:23] <dark_suic> Xemanth^^, why kaudiocreator when you can do it directly from konqueror?
[02:23] <Xemanth^^> i don't like to do stuff with my file browser
[02:24] <dark_suic> well, if you saw it you may change your mind :P
[02:24] <dark_suic> have you seen how konqueror works with audiocds?
[02:24] <dark_suic> it's just awesome
[02:24] <Xemanth^^> nope
[02:24] <Vge> d
[02:24] <dark_suic> if you can, just try
[02:24] <dark_suic> insert an audio cd
[02:24] <Xemanth^^> i'm still trying to get my usb2 hdd working
[02:24] <sampan> dark_suic  i found that when i used konq to do a vbr ogg, it's lowpass wasn't consistent.  i'd set it to not fall below 192 and the files were regularly running 160s.
[02:24] <LjL> it gives you folders with (virtual) wavs, mp3s, oggs and stuff that you can copy
[02:24] <dark_suic> and write audiocd:/ in konquerors address bar
[02:24] <sampan> so i switched
[02:25] <Xemanth^^> dmesg shows that usb2 device maxtor connected but i cant see it in fdisk -l :|
[02:25] <Xemanth^^> i have own made kernel
[02:25] <dark_suic> Xemanth^^, fdisk -l doesn't show my hda and hdb :P
[02:25] <dark_suic> with precompiled kernel
[02:25] <Xemanth^^> huh
[02:26] <dark_suic> and i can assure you that they are (hda1 is / :P)
[02:26] <Xemanth^^> heh :)
[02:26] <Vge> hmm, stupid question, but how can i know my modem is working if i dont have a phone line atm? :)
[02:26] <dark_suic> well guys, going out see you
[02:26] <Xemanth^^> Vge:  :D
[02:26] <dark_suic> well, if it hasn't a phone line it isn't working :P
[02:27] <LjL> Vge: well if it tries to dial, then it will probably work...
[02:27] <dark_suic> but weill, if it's internal it shouls show up in lspci, and external (usb) on lsusb
[02:27] <LjL> Vge: if it doesn't try to dial, though, it might simply be because it expects a dialtone that isn't there (but there is a command to disable waiting for dialtone)
[02:27] <Xemanth^^> in dmesg it shows that its rightly connected with usb speed etd with irq
[02:28] <Xemanth^^> but i don't know how to mount it i cant see it
[02:28] <Xemanth^^> in dev
[02:28] <Vge> well ill try to hear the tone :)
[02:28] <sampan> xemanth^^ check /media/  does it have /media/usbdisk or /media/sda1  ?  that's where my usb2 ext. hdd is and all i had to do was plug it in
[02:28] <Xemanth^^> but oh well now i go sleep half four, nn peeps, tomorrow more solving this problem ----------->
[02:29] <Xemanth^^> sampan: dude not there, im not stupid
[02:29] <sampan> xemanth^^  no one called you stupid.
[02:29] <sampan> xemanth^^  we get questions for ALL sorts of problems in here; some with VERY simple solutions.  no need to get defensive.
[02:30] <Xemanth^^> i have played with debian, kubuntu, red hat, and mandrake 9x and mandriva
[02:30] <LiteHedded> ubuntu > mandrake
[02:30] <LiteHedded> I used to love mandrake but there's no comparison
[02:31] <Xemanth^^> sampan: sry, i just am little frustrated about that ican't listen music in linux because all my music are on lacie :|
[02:32] <Xemanth^^> and that f*cker cant work
[02:33] <Xemanth^^> whole ati is shit
[02:33] <Xemanth^^> sry
[02:34] <Xemanth^^> i still should grab the freaking chip out of my laptop and throw it outside
[02:34] <Xemanth^^> and buy nvidia laptop, which would work alot better :|
[02:37] <Xemanth^^> but oh well i go sleep clock really alot ->
[02:47] <eightiesk> hey
[03:12] <alljohnny> oi
[03:12] <alljohnny> hi =)
[03:12] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:13] <alljohnny> I'm testing Kubuntu and it is pretty cool!!
[03:13] <alljohnny> bbl :)
[03:13] <Captainbraille> alljohnny: what features stand out to you?
[03:14] <alljohnny> oh, ease of use! :)
[03:14] <alljohnny> it's almost as easy as windows or easy to setup
[03:14] <Captainbraille> Hobbsee, haha, can I have a bit of help installing Real10 please? =)
[03:14] <alljohnny> install/update/programs
[03:14] <Hobbsee> !real
[03:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Hobbsee
[03:14] <Hobbsee> !multimedia
[03:14] <Captainbraille> alljohnny: right =)
[03:14] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[03:14] <Hobbsee> Captainbraille: i'd try the second link
[03:14] <alljohnny> *or easier
[03:15] <alljohnny> It's stable, k3b, openoffice, internet is faster :) I think I'll adopt it as my main system :) [i'm searching for a stable system to develop]  :)
[03:15] <Captainbraille> Thanks Hobbsee
[03:15] <alljohnny> cool programs! everything just works!! thank you for the good job :)
[03:16] <Hobbsee> no problems Captainbraille
[03:16] <Captainbraille> alljohnny: I agree completely!
[03:17] <alljohnny> Captainbraille: :)
[03:17] <alljohnny> be back later, cya :)
[03:27] <eightiesk> hey
[03:27] <eightiesk> `automake-1.6' is missing on your system.  You should only need it if
[03:27] <eightiesk>          you modified `Makefile.am', `acinclude.m4' or `configure.in'.
[03:27] <eightiesk>          You might want to install the `Automake' and `Perl' packages.
[03:27] <eightiesk>          Grab them from any GNU archive site.
[03:28] <eightiesk> what do i need?
[03:28] <robotgeek> sudo apt-get install automake-1.6
[03:32] <stupendo44> I need some help to optimize my DNS somehow. DNS resolving seems slow probably 70% of the time
[03:32] <stupendo44> comparing with Windows, I think I need to change something
[03:33] <eightiesk> ummmm
[03:33] <stupendo44> if anybody has some knowledge and/or experience, I'd like to be walked through checking some settings if possible
[03:33] <eightiesk> i have a question.
[03:33] <eightiesk> how do i use kdfx?
[03:33] <stupendo44> eightiesk: well, I'm using it. Let me remember a little bit. What have you done so far?
[03:34] <eightiesk> i dled the zip.
[03:34] <eightiesk> i need to install it.
[03:34] <stupendo44> eightiesk: oh, I'm sorry. I haven't used that. I'm using KBFX, which is a K-Menu button replacement
[03:35] <stupendo44> sorry
[03:35] <eightiesk> thats what i ment
[03:36] <eightiesk> KBFX
[03:36] <eightiesk> typo.
[03:36] <eightiesk> its installed now
[03:37] <eightiesk> how do i make it work?
[03:37] <stupendo44> oh, let me look it up
[03:38] <stupendo44> ok, you have it installed? You should be able to add it to your bar by right-clicking the taskbar, then Add Applet to panel. I think
[03:38] <Traum> ! root
[03:38] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:39] <Traum> ! lvm
[03:39] <ubotu> [lvm]  (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[03:39] <Traum> ! raid
[03:39] <ubotu> well, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[03:39] <Traum> ! combine:  lvm and raid
[03:39] <ubotu> Traum: What?
[03:40] <Traum> ! lvm and raid combined?
[03:40] <ubotu> Traum: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:40] <Traum> sancho ubotu
[03:40] <Tainted-Tim1> Anyone here?
[03:41] <stupendo44> eightiesk: how did you install it? compiling for a tar, or a deb?
[03:41] <stupendo44> Tainted-Tim1: no, nobody at all is here...
[03:41] <Tainted-Tim1> stupendo44: :p
[03:41] <Tainted-Tim1> stupendo44: Will you help me out?
[03:41] <Tainted-Tim1> stupendo44: I compiled and installed this app from kde-looks called metabar.
[03:41] <Tainted-Tim1> How do I run it;.
[03:42] <Tainted-Tim1> I'm a linux newb.
[03:42] <stupendo44> no. I mean yes. I mean no. I mean yes. Oh, wait. I don't know because I don't know what your problem is
[03:42] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: whats the name of the program
[03:42] <Tainted-Tim1> ^^ metabar.
[03:42] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: try simply typing metabar in the run screen
[03:42] <Tainted-Tim1> Didnt work...
[03:42] <eightiesk> uh i dunno.
[03:42] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: did it come with readme?
[03:43] <stupendo44> eightiesk: well, can you try to specify what you've done so far as much as you can?
[03:43] <smoet> hmm, kde looks much nicer then gnome
[03:43] <stupendo44> Tainted-Tim1: what was the file extension of the file that you downloaded?
[03:43] <LiteHedded> smoet: yes it does ;)
[03:43] <smoet> good thing i checked ;)
[03:43] <eightiesk> configure mak and makinstalled.
[03:43] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: Give me a moment, let me find it and download it ok?
[03:43] <stupendo44> no doubt...
[03:43] <Tainted-Tim1> Ok
[03:43] <Tainted-Tim1> thanks
[03:44] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: is this it http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34127
[03:44] <Snake__> ?
[03:44] <rich0rd> is it a program, or a "plugin" e.g. for superkaramba?
[03:44] <eightiesk> stupendo44, where do i get the deb file i didn't knopw about it.
[03:44] <stupendo44> eightiesk: try reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76746
[03:44] <stupendo44> eightiesk: sometimes somebody will make a deb file. Not always
[03:44] <Tainted-Tim1> Thats a theme.
[03:44] <stupendo44> eightiesk: but you can create your own using the link that I sent you
[03:44] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: can you link me to what you downloaded?
[03:44] <Tainted-Tim1> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=21168
[03:45] <eightiesk> i just wanna make it work
[03:45] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: thank you
[03:46] <stupendo44> eightiesk: that page I sent you walks you through installing it and everything
[03:46] <stupendo44> eightiesk: read the whole thing for other peoples questions and problems too
[03:47] <eightiesk> stupendo44, i'm not a total noob just new to linux
[03:47] <eightiesk>  i'm microsoft certified.
[03:47] <eightiesk> :-p
[03:47] <rich0rd> hrhr
[03:47] <Tainted-Tim1> microshit*
[03:47] <rich0rd> i am cisco certified
[03:47] <rich0rd> so what
[03:47] <eightiesk> ya i no.
[03:47] <stupendo44> eightiesk: I wasn't trying to diss you. I'm sorry if it sounded like that
[03:48] <eightiesk> not trying to brag.
[03:48] <stupendo44> rich0rd: how far?
[03:48] <eightiesk> I thought i was geting ragged on.
[03:48] <rich0rd> ccna
[03:48] <stupendo44> rich0rd: that's it?
[03:48] <Snake__> eightiesk: Quick question...are you proud of that?
[03:48] <stupendo44> :)
[03:48] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: Any ideas?
[03:48] <rich0rd> sure :-)
[03:49] <stupendo44> Snake__: I would say I'm proud of my extensive windows experience and expertise...
[03:49] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: i'm sorry, one moment, I just reinstalled kubuntu, I need to get the build files
[03:49] <stupendo44> Snake__: knowledge is power and all that...
[03:50] <Snake__> stupendo44: Meh...I would rather be cisco or novell certed before M$
[03:50] <stupendo44> Snake__: oh, yeah. definitely.
[03:50] <stupendo44> I took a cisco class, just didn't get enough to take the cert
[03:50] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: Did your configure build correctly?
[03:50] <Tainted-Tim1> What should I have to do?
[03:50] <stupendo44> The only thing I have is an old A+
[03:50] <Tainted-Tim1> ./configure && make && sudo make install
[03:50] <Tainted-Tim1> Is what I did
[03:51] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: i'm just asking, when you did ./configure, did it have any errors
[03:51] <Tainted-Tim1> Nope
[03:51] <Snake__> alright
[03:51] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: hold on, because i'm having issues congfigureing it :) Thats why I asked
[03:51] <Tainted-Tim1> lol
[03:51] <Snake__> !X includes
[03:51] <Tainted-Tim1> .
[03:51] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, Snake__
[03:51] <Snake__> ...
[03:52] <stupendo44> be careful with that exclamation mark
[03:52] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[03:52] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[03:52] <stupendo44> ubotu is talkative tonight
[03:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens!, stupendo44
[03:52] <stupendo44> lol
[03:52] <Tainted-Tim1> Ubotu.
[03:52] <Tainted-Tim1> What kind of bot is that?
[03:52] <Tainted-Tim1> What does it respond to?
[03:53] <stupendo44> it's name and the exclamation mark
[03:53] <Tainted-Tim1> Ubotu sucks.
[03:53] <ubotu> methinks sucks is a word you should NOT use in #ubuntu
[03:53] <Tainted-Tim1> Lol.
[03:53] <Tainted-Tim1> We are in #kubuntu!
[03:53] <stupendo44> it's the same bot for both channels
[03:53] <Tainted-Tim1> I know, but it's still funny.
[03:53] <stupendo44> ubotu kubuntu
[03:53] <ubotu> from memory, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:54] <Tainted-Tim1> What about questions?
[03:54] <Tainted-Tim1> ubotu why was ubuntu made?
[03:54] <ubotu> Tainted-Tim1: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:54] <Tainted-Tim1> no!
[03:55] <regeya> it's fun to watch people get snippy with bots ;-)
[03:55] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: How did it go?
[03:55] <stupendo44> has anyone else here had trouble with dns?
[03:55] <Tainted-Tim1> regeya: It's hilarious.
[03:55] <stupendo44> ubotu dns
[03:55] <ubotu> stupendo44: What?
[03:55] <regeya> !dns
[03:55] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: lol, i'm working it rofl
[03:56] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: I don't know what "X Includes"
[03:56] <eightiesk> Snake__, it makes me money
[03:56] <stupendo44> ubotu, what is today's date?
[03:56] <ubotu> stupendo44: what are you talking about?
[03:56] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: How would you generally run a program like that
[03:56] <stupendo44> ubotu, what time is is?
[03:56] <Tainted-Tim1> ubotu, want to come over?
[03:56] <ubotu> stupendo44: I think you lost me on that one
[03:56] <ubotu> Tainted-Tim1: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:57] <Tainted-Tim1> Dang.
[03:57] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: usually you would just type the program name...but KDE-Look as a very bad reputation for decent programs
[03:57] <Snake__> Because they don't filter anything, all crap gets put through
[03:57] <stupendo44> ubotu, do you have a girlfriend?
[03:57] <Tainted-Tim1> I know, but I liked the idea.
[03:57] <ubotu> stupendo44: My cat's name is Mittens!
[03:57] <Tainted-Tim1> lol
[03:57] <stupendo44> lol
[03:57] <stupendo44> well then
[03:57] <Tainted-Tim1> ubotu, Mittens
[03:57] <ubotu> Tainted-Tim1: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:57] <Tainted-Tim1> ...
[03:57] <Tainted-Tim1> ubotu, kitty
[03:57] <ubotu> Tainted-Tim1: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:58] <Tainted-Tim1> ubotu, cat
[03:58] <ubotu> Tainted-Tim1: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:58] <stupendo44> ubotu, english
[03:58] <ubotu> stupendo44: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:58] <stupendo44> english, ubotu, engish. we are speaking it right now. stupid
[03:58] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: It uses css and html to make the menu, me being a webdesigner loved the idea...not so great on it anymore.
[03:59] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: heh, i'm a web designer myself, fun job ain't it?
[03:59] <stupendo44> ubotu, what would you say if I called you stupid?
[03:59] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, stupendo44
[03:59] <Tainted-Tim1> eye speeek purrfet eglisn speka
[03:59] <Snake__> !lart stupendo44
[03:59] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: Yes it is.
[03:59] <stupendo44> ubotu: ow
[03:59] <ubotu> stupendo44: What?
[03:59] <Tainted-Tim1> !lart ubotu
[03:59] <Snake__> lol
[03:59] <stupendo44> lol
[03:59] <Tainted-Tim1> lol
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> !lart ubotu
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> !lart ubotu
[04:00] <stupendo44> !lart Tainted-Tim1
[04:00] <stupendo44> !lart Tainted-Tim1
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> wtf
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> fuck
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> that would hurt
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> !lart ubotu
[04:00] <stupendo44> lol
[04:00] <Tainted-Tim1> !lart ubotu
[04:00] <Snake__> Watch the language
[04:01] <Tainted-Tim1> Sorry.
[04:01] <stupendo44> !lart Tainted-Tim1
[04:01] <stupendo44> oh, this is hilarious
[04:01] <Tainted-Tim1> Why is he aiming at my twig and dingle berries?
[04:02] <Snake__> Ugh so much to do
[04:02] <Snake__> I hate fresh installs
[04:02] <stupendo44> anybody here want a 15" monitor?
[04:02] <Snake__> stupendo44: LCD or CRT
[04:03] <stupendo44> CRT
[04:03] <Snake__> Meh
[04:03] <Snake__> Nope
[04:03] <Snake__> Got one :)
[04:03] <stupendo44> me too. 9 of them. people give you all kinds of old crap when you fix their computers.
[04:03] <Snake__> stupendo44: yep, my server runs out of dedicated hardware :-D
[04:03] <Snake__> donated hardware**
[04:04] <stupendo44> I have an old AST/400 something. It doesn't even have dos, it's some proprietary thing
[04:04] <Tainted-Tim1> Anyone have laptop memory?
[04:04] <Tainted-Tim1> lol
[04:04] <stupendo44> I remember a laptop, Tainted-Tim1
[04:04] <Snake__> stupendo44: What do you mean, you cant put dos on it??
[04:04] <stupendo44> I could, but what would be the point...
[04:04] <Snake__> stupendo44: idk...to run windows 3.1?
[04:05] <stupendo44> Snake__: do you think I want to cause more stress in my life?
[04:05] <Snake__> stupendo44: Just put it on there and give it to an elderly home :)
[04:05] <Snake__> stupendo44: then they get the headaches
[04:06] <stupendo44> I'd rather put linux on there if I was going to do that
[04:06] <Snake__> stupendo44: Hmmm good point sir!
[04:06] <stupendo44> *traitor
[04:06] <Snake__> stupendo44: Na, you just mentioned DOS, so you got me in that state of mind
[04:06] <Snake__> ;)
[04:06] <stupendo44> oh, so it's my fault...
[04:06] <stupendo44> always.
[04:06] <Snake__> Besides, 3.1 was good....I never got one BSOD on it!
[04:07] <Snake__> 3.11 was good, to be exact
[04:07] <stupendo44> Snake__: weren't BSODs invented in 95?
[04:07] <Snake__> stupendo44: Hehe, its okay, my gaming rig runs XP, but i'm on my laptop a lot more
[04:07] <Snake__> stupendo44: Yep :P
[04:07] <Snake__> Tis a joke
[04:08] <stupendo44> My main system is Kubuntu 5.10, but I switch to the other drive to play that game. That's basically the only reason. And now that I beat it, it's rare for me to switch.
[04:08] <stupendo44> My only issue with Kubuntu right now is the slow DNS resolving. I'm not even sure where to start
[04:09] <Snake__> I see
[04:09] <stupendo44> Snake__: ah, I get it now... Joke... yeah...
[04:09] <Snake__> rofl
[04:09] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: i'm sorry i'm taking so long
[04:09] <Tainted-Tim1> its ok
[04:09] <Tainted-Tim1> brb
[04:10] <stupendo44> world: I need some help to optimize my DNS somehow. DNS resolving seems slow probably 70% of the time. I'd like to be walked through checking some settings, if possible.
[04:11] <Snake__> ugh god I hate compling
[04:12] <stupendo44> wouldn't it be called comping? Like using the computer. or. something.
[04:12] <Tainted-Tim1> back
[04:13] <Tainted-Tim1> any good new?
[04:13] <Tainted-Tim1> s
[04:13] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: not yet...i still cant get it to build
[04:13] <Snake__> grrr
[04:14] <Snake__> I hate KDE-Look...
[04:14] <Tainted-Tim1> Can you recommend a better place?
[04:14] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: For applications?
[04:15] <Snake__> Sourceforge
[04:15] <Tainted-Tim1> For desktop-enhancing..
[04:15] <Tainted-Tim1> applications, themes stuff like that.
[04:15] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: No not really...but a lot of applications just suck on KDE-Look
[04:16] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: i'm sorry, I can't get it to install, and without that, I can't really tell you how to run i
[04:16] <Snake__> t
[04:16] <stupendo44> Snake__: I would have to agree with that
[04:16] <bur[n] er> Snake__: it's mostly a theme site though
[04:17] <Tainted-Tim1> Damn, hmm.
[04:17] <Snake__> bur[n] er: and it does great as that, theres lots of good stuff in the order of wallpapers, themes, karambas etc, but they allow applications as well, and as I said..most just suck
[04:18] <Tainted-Tim1> What about a program like metabar?
[04:18] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: i'm not even sure exactly what it is, so I can't really recommend you to anything
[04:18] <Tainted-Tim1> Did you read the link I sent you?
[04:18] <Tainted-Tim1> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=21168
[04:19] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: but it doesn't say what it is
[04:20] <stupendo44> Tainted-Tim1: yeah, I'm not clear on what it is either. From the comments, it appears to be a program, but I can't tell for what
[04:21] <Tainted-Tim1> hahahaahah
[04:21] <Tainted-Tim1> lol
[04:21] <Tainted-Tim1> google metabar...i found the answer to my problem
[04:22] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: where at
[04:22] <Snake__> the source forge?
[04:22] <Tainted-Tim1> Its now what I thought it was.
[04:22] <Tainted-Tim1> Damnit.
[04:22] <Tainted-Tim1> so misleading.
[04:22] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: well reading over this sourceforge report...it appears i'm not the only one having make issues
[04:23] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: and it also apprears that the programmer isn't doing crap about it
[04:23] <Tainted-Tim1> I wonder why it compiled so easily for me..
[04:24] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: cuz ur special
[04:24] <Snake__> :)
[04:24] <Tainted-Tim1> zomgz
[04:24] <Tainted-Tim1> yay
[04:24] <Snake__> lol
[04:28] <Tainted-Tim1> How do I make my stuff look like his? The taskbar and application dock or w/e.
[04:29] <Tainted-Tim1> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=28725&file1=28725-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=KMetabar++-+%28Modified+Metabar+0.7%29
[04:29] <Tainted-Tim1> In that pic
[04:30] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: ...ohh man thats a lot of customization
[04:30] <Snake__> Best of luck to you with that
[04:31] <Tainted-Tim1> Lol.
[04:31] <Tainted-Tim1> Any tips on where to start?
[04:31] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: right click on your panel, go to "panel menu" and configure panel
[04:31] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: start playing with stuff there
[04:33] <Tainted-Tim1> Eh, I almost got it.
[04:33] <Tainted-Tim1> :D
[04:33] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: Sweet, and you'll probly need to download a few things...that search bar isn't stock
[04:33] <Tainted-Tim1> The run Command?
[04:34] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: thats a run command??
[04:34] <Tainted-Tim1> I guess I downloaded that already....because its there.,
[04:34] <Tainted-Tim1> Yeah
[04:34] <Tainted-Tim1> Read the text above it.
[04:34] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: oh whoops, didn't see that :)
[04:34] <Tainted-Tim1> I put the color picker in too,
[04:34] <Tainted-Tim1> I always get pissed off in windows having to open PS.
[04:34] <Tainted-Tim1> taking a screenshot and then getting the value.
[04:35] <Tainted-Tim1> How do I move them?
[04:35] <Tainted-Tim1> The little applets
[04:35] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: In the taskbar?
[04:35] <Tainted-Tim1> Yeah
[04:36] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: there should be little bars when you move near the applet, drag the bar around
[04:36] <_ice> amarok problems with it
[04:36] <Tainted-Tim1> I had taken them off
[04:36] <_ice> I started it and now it won't load
[04:36] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: how did you do that..
[04:37] <Tainted-Tim1> Configure Panel > Appearance > Advanced > Hide.
[04:38] <_ice> how do I not have any permissions to kill frostwire ?
[04:38] <_ice> its says it when I try to kill it
[04:38] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: well I suggest you put it back :)
[04:38] <_ice> any suggestions
[04:39] <Tainted-Tim1> Well I did now.
[04:39] <Tainted-Tim1> But I removed them again.
[04:39] <Tainted-Tim1> I dont plan on moving them.
[04:39] <fatejudger> has anyone compiled amaroK on Dapper?
[04:39] <Snake__> _ice: are you sudo killing it?
[04:40] <_ice> no with the task manager
[04:40] <Snake__> _ice: oh...hmmm
[04:40] <Snake__> Dunno
[04:40] <Snake__> sorry
[04:40] <_ice> also to kde freezes when I pull up certain apps too
[04:40] <_ice> thinking about switching to flux or xfce
[04:41] <Snake__> _ice: I suggest xfce if you must switch
[04:41] <_ice> yeah I used to use it all the time
[04:42] <_ice> just that I like kde ?>
[04:42] <_ice> is 3.5 really buggy ?
[04:42] <Snake__> _ice: no sir, i'm on 3.5 and lovin every minuteo f it
[04:42] <Tainted-Tim1> What font do you think that is?
[04:42] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: no clue
[04:42] <_ice> so why is it running like piss for me then ?
[04:43] <Snake__> _ice: never seen piss run...and I honestly don't know
[04:43] <gamma> hey i'm getting some 404s when trying to upgrade dapper for the first time.. ideas?
[04:43] <gamma> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/h/hal/hal_0.5.6-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[04:43] <_ice> ok so why is it running poorly for me then
[04:43] <Snake__> _ice: as i just said, I honestly don't know
[04:43] <_ice> is there a way I can find out
[04:44] <Snake__> _ice: talk to someone more experienced than I
[04:44] <neosc> guys.. i've set my eth card up using ifconfig eth0 *.*.*.* netmask *.*.*.*
[04:44] <neosc> i still cnat connect to net tho...
[04:45] <Snake__> neosc: try typing "sudo dhclient"
[04:45] <Snake__> neosc: then try to ping google.com
[04:45] <neosc> no.. i cnt.. it gives
[04:45] <Tainted-Tim1> HAHAHHAHA
[04:45] <Tainted-Tim1> Wow.
[04:45] <neosc> cannot find NeoSc using gethostbyname()
[04:45] <Tainted-Tim1> I love the clock applet! With the mode "fuzzy"!
[04:45] <Tainted-Tim1> Its a "quarter to ten"
[04:46] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: It's quite annoying IMO :)
[04:46] <Tainted-Tim1> Hehe.
[04:46] <Snake__> neosc: when you do sudo dhclient??
[04:46] <neosc> any sudo command for that matter
[04:46] <Snake__> neosc: hmmm
[04:46] <neosc> sudo systemsettings, network-admin
[04:46] <neosc> anything..
[04:46] <Snake__> neosc: sounds like your sudo might be pooched, did it work??
[04:47] <Snake__> work before**
[04:47] <neosc> no..
[04:47] <neosc> i had to boot in recov mode to do the ifconfig
[04:47] <Snake__> neosc: like, did it work when you first installed your kubuntu
[04:47] <neosc> i installed kub yesterday
[04:47] <neosc> hasnt yet worked
[04:47] <neosc> am new to this
[04:48] <Snake__> neosc: Your install may have gone bad...because if sudo is screwed up, your in for a long haul
[04:48] <_ice> hmm reinstalled amarok still get the same problems get the splash screen then it just keeps loading
[04:48] <neosc> ya.. think i shud install again
[04:48] <_ice> very wierd
[04:48] <Snake__> neosc: that would be my suggestion
[04:49] <neosc> fwell.. what r the steps.. yesterday the install screwed up my XP.. dont want that to happed again
[04:49] <neosc> i just format the drive?
[04:49] <Snake__> neosc: how did you screw up your XP?
[04:49] <neosc> oh i dad two win oses on my comp..
[04:50] <Snake__> neosc: just format the partition that XP isn't on
[04:50] <neosc> i could no longer boot to xp.. showed a hal.dll missing or corrupted.. missing..
[04:50] <neosc> but thats a commo error it seems..
[04:50] <neosc> had to recover back my xp
[04:50] <Snake__> neosc: very odd
[04:51] <neosc> yes.. but fairly common 4 ppl with 2 wins
[04:51] <neosc> who install kub
[04:51] <Snake__> neosc: I'm sorry I don't have much experience myself beyond basic usage...
[04:51] <Snake__> So I can't really help you there
[04:51] <neosc> thanks anyway
[04:51] <Snake__> I try. lol
[04:51] <Nirvana> I have a problem with package creation. I have my own "secret" key in my ~/.gnupg/ dir. The filename is secring.gpg. All of that seems OK. But when I try to create a deb package for KMPlayer (0.92), I get this error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/528282 -- Could the error be because I am creating this pkg in the /tmp directory, which is owned by root? I have made my own key, as I said earlier, and all should be well, 
[04:51] <eightiesk> i can't get kbfx to install....
[04:51] <neosc> am waiting for my 5 ubuntu cds..
[04:52] <neosc> then i'll dump kubntu
[04:52] <Snake__> neosc: aw thats to bad...I love my kubuntu
[04:52] <Tainted-Tim1> Oh shit....How do I take a screenshot?
[04:52] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: run Kscreenshot
[04:53] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: i'm sorry, its called ksnapshot
[04:53] <neosc> hmm.. cant i just reinstall kub.. over the existing one..
[04:53] <Tainted-Tim1> I was gonna say..
[04:53] <neosc> by booting frm th install cd
[04:53] <neosc> without formatting and stuf
[04:53] <Traum> !lvm on to of Raid, or Raid on top of LVM??
[04:53] <ubotu> Traum: I give up, what is it?
[04:53] <Snake__> neosc: Yes you could, but I cant guarentee sudo being fixed, as I believe that retains your settings
[04:53] <neosc> oh
[04:54] <neosc> oh BTW anyone know what the heck hotplug subsystem is... my booting hangs up half the time at that stage
[04:54] <eightiesk> !kbfx
[04:54] <ubotu> eightiesk: I haven't a clue
[04:54] <eightiesk> :-(
[04:54] <Tainted-Tim1> http://infiniti-hax.com/images/ss.png It has nothing to do with hax, but Okay.
[04:55] <Tainted-Tim1> neosc: Do you have any USB things plugged in
[04:55] <Tainted-Tim1> ?
[04:55] <Tainted-Tim1> A GFX card?
[04:55] <Snake__> not bad Tainted-Tim1
[04:55] <neosc> no
[04:55] <neosc> no
[04:55] <Tainted-Tim1> PCI cards?
[04:55] <Tainted-Tim1> or AGP?
[04:55] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: one moment, ill see if I can find a pic of my screen
[04:55] <neosc> hmm.. maybe
[04:55] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: Im going to style it a bit more too.
[04:56] <neosc> but i'm sure i got a M/B with all of that embedded
[04:56] <neosc> i do have the slots tho..
[04:56] <neosc> empty
[04:56] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: heres mine
[04:56] <Snake__> http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6357/sweet23dr.jpg
[04:56] <Tainted-Tim1> Oh, Hmm.
[04:56] <Tainted-Tim1> Im a linux noob.
[04:56] <Tainted-Tim1> I just fixed my exact same problem.
[04:57] <neosc> how?
[04:57] <Tainted-Tim1> I had a GFX card, I just put it in the Hotplug blacklist.
[04:57] <Tainted-Tim1> sudo gedit /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:57] <Tainted-Tim1> or kate
[04:57] <Tainted-Tim1> w/e.
[04:58] <neosc> crap.. my sudo's gone phoosh
[04:58] <neosc> gives 'cannot find neosc using gethostbyname()
[04:58] <Tainted-Tim1> Where can I get the infos thing?
[04:58] <Tainted-Tim1> neosc: No idea, ask some of the more experienced people.
[04:59] <neosc> hmm.
[04:59] <Nirvana> I have a problem with package creation. I have my own "secret" key in my ~/.gnupg/ dir. The filename is secring.gpg. All of that seems OK. But when I try to create a deb package for KMPlayer (0.92), I get this error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/528282 -- Could the error be because I am creating this pkg in the /tmp directory, which is owned by root? I have made my own key, as I said earlier, and all should be well, 
[05:01] <dark_suic> Nirvana, although i'm not sure and don't know a thing about packaging, if you believe that the error could be because of /tmp being owned by root, why don't you try to package it in your home directory?
[05:02] <jldugger> so i tried out kubuntu -- is there an easy way to "go back in time" to before i installed kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <jldugger> ?
[05:02] <Tainted-Tim1> Snake__: Where can I get the Infos applet?
[05:02] <Tainted-Tim1> Delete the partition.
[05:02] <Snake__> Tainted-Tim1: mmmmmmmmm dunno
[05:04] <dark_suic> jldugger, i don't know if ther is a way, but you need to uninstall kubuntu-desktop??? you can have both...
[05:04] <dark_suic> you can enter gnome from the desktop manager
[05:04] <jldugger> dark_suic, well, it kinda clobbered the applications menu
[05:04] <dark_suic> ???
[05:05] <jldugger> i dont really need all the kde kapps
[05:05] <dark_suic> well, it shouln't have done that mainly because kde saves it's things at ~/.kde/
[05:05] <dark_suic> you can see if you want any of them
[05:05] <dark_suic> or if you don't like ANY of them
[05:05] <dark_suic> just remove your /home/user/.kde directory
[05:06] <dark_suic> it won't create one if you don't start kde again
[05:06] <jldugger> i dont think that will fix it
[05:06] <dark_suic> and it should remove most of the icons
[05:06] <jldugger> im pretty sure the menus are system wide
[05:06] <dark_suic> jldugger, u already tried?
[05:06] <dark_suic> it won't hurt since you aren't using kde anymore, are you?
[05:07] <jldugger> nope
[05:07] <Tainted-Tim1> Lol
[05:07] <Tainted-Tim1> Why do you want fluxbox?
[05:08] <dark_suic> then you may try it...
[05:08] <dark_suic> as i said, it won't hurt
[05:08] <dark_suic> but after4 removing it
[05:08] <jldugger> well i moved it to .kdetrsh
[05:08] <dark_suic> ok, but you won't see any change if you move it
[05:08] <jldugger> the menus are still full of kde-crap, presumably because the programs are still installed
[05:08] <dark_suic> the system looks for .desktop files
[05:08] <jldugger> i dont see why GNOME would look in .KDE
[05:08] <dark_suic> and the .desktop files are still there if you move the folder ;)
[05:09] <dark_suic> and you have to restart your x server
[05:09] <dark_suic> in order to make it dissappear
[05:09] <dark_suic> gnome doesn't have any special hate to kde :P
[05:09] <dark_suic> it just looks ALL over the system (i think :P)
[05:10] <dark_suic> if you think you have too much to do, just format and reinstall ubuntu without installing kubuntu-desktop again
[05:10] <jldugger> well, if i apt-get remove ark, the menu entry goes away.
[05:10] <eightiesk> dark_suic, will you help me?
[05:10] <jldugger> restarting your x server to apply changes appears to be more of a kde thing
[05:10] <dark_suic> eightiesk, i'm starting to get bored of people asking if i can help or if i will help :P just ask your question, maybe another one can help
[05:10] <eightiesk> i'm trying to install lol
[05:11] <eightiesk> kbfx
[05:11] <eightiesk> and it errors.
[05:11] <dark_suic> jldugger, if you make any config change in any thing, you have to restart the daemon running to make the changes apply
[05:11] <dark_suic> u ever tried changing /etc/network/interfaces and see if works without restarting networking?
[05:12] <dark_suic> eightiesk, i've heard that before, but can't help since i don't even know what kbfx is :P
[05:12] <jldugger> no, but ive tried changing the antialiasing / subpixel rendering
[05:12] <dark_suic> jldugger, if you just want to get rid of ALL KDE things, just reinstsall, it won't take more than 30-40 minutes
[05:13] <jldugger> it'd take more than 30 minutes to remember all the things i had previously configured, and back up my drive
[05:13] <eightiesk> Aji-Dahaka, do u use kbfx?
[05:13] <dark_suic> jldugger, you can save your configurations :P
[05:14] <dark_suic> eightiesk, try asking google with the exact error
[05:14] <jldugger> also, i dont have a list of packages i installed before kubuntu-desktop =/
[05:14] <eightiesk> its a huge error...
[05:14] <eightiesk> like 15 of them.
[05:14] <dark_suic> jldugger, try removing the kde icons that mess up your menu
[05:14] <dark_suic> removing the packages i mean
[05:14] <jldugger> i just removed the kdelibs packages
[05:15] <jldugger> that caught pretty much everything
[05:15] <dark_suic> you can just write them down to a terminal and then just
[05:15] <dark_suic> that's true
[05:15] <jldugger> the only kde app i used before was k3hb
[05:15] <dark_suic> you should remove kde-core (or something like that)
[05:15] <jldugger> i didnt install kde-core
[05:15] <jldugger> its a virtual package
[05:15] <jldugger> nothing depends on it, so nothing would be removed if i uninstalled it =/
[05:15] <dark_suic> well, kde-core is... kde core :P if you got kde installed it should have installed kde-core (i think)
[05:16] <dark_suic> ok
[05:16] <dark_suic> :P
[05:16] <dark_suic> keep in mind that i'm talking on suggestions and suppositions, never uninstalled kde from ubuntu as i love kde and don't like gnome :P
[05:16] <dark_suic> i'm just trying to do my best to help you :P
[05:16] <Red_Herring> dark_suic: im not sure, i just found out i dont have kde core installed
[05:16] <Red_Herring> and  im running kde
[05:17] <dark_suic> Red_Herring, i don't know :P
[05:17] <dark_suic> i just thought it should be installed as it is... ermmm kde-core?
[05:17] <Red_Herring> i got a question
[05:17] <jldugger> im telling ya, kde core is just a virtual pacakge. it depends on lots of things, so before you install "kde-core" you get all the things that kde core consists of
[05:17] <dark_suic> lol :P
[05:17] <Red_Herring> how are we gonna get SuSE lovers to come to Kubuntu?
[05:17] <dark_suic> i read you before :P
[05:17] <jldugger> same goes for kubuntu-desktop
[05:17] <owner> red herring do youi want to switch back to gnome?
[05:17] <Red_Herring> they are SO ignorant
[05:18] <dark_suic> Red_Herring, then leave them in their ignorance :P
[05:18] <Red_Herring> owner: i dont like gnome, theres nothgn new about it
[05:18] <eightiesk> owner do you use kbfx?
[05:18] <dark_suic> if anyone wants to move to kubuntu they will say, just don't try to ask them to
[05:18] <owner> i just googled it eighties
[05:18] <dark_suic> eightiesk, i'm kinda lazy at 5:20 am, what's kbfx?
[05:18] <owner> its a kicker replacement
[05:18] <owner> cool
[05:19] <dark_suic> lol
[05:19] <dark_suic> kicker seems good to me :P
[05:19] <eightiesk> its a kmenu replacment.
[05:19] <Red_Herring> dark_suic: i managed to get kubuntu on the computer club's computer, but the idiots FUCKED IT UP, so now they all love SuSE
[05:19] <dark_suic> ok, ok
[05:19] <Red_Herring> even thogh the turned it off during updating 5 TIMES!
[05:19] <owner> red herring, how does suse compare to ubuntu
[05:19] <dark_suic> Red_Herring, while you have your kubuntu....
[05:19] <Red_Herring> then WONDERED WHY IT BROKE
[05:19] <Red_Herring> owner: it doesnt
[05:19] <owner> i wanted to try suse before
[05:20] <owner> there is a supersuse
[05:20] <Red_Herring> suse is years behind kubuntu
[05:20] <dark_suic> i just can't let my beloved apt go :P
[05:20] <owner> really?
[05:20] <Red_Herring> dont use suse
[05:20] <Red_Herring> well
[05:20] <Red_Herring> thats kinda harsh
[05:20] <Red_Herring> its fine
[05:20] <eightiesk> ya
[05:20] <owner> okay, but what do you like the most about kubuntu over suse
[05:20] <Red_Herring> but the OSS version sucks to use anything w/
[05:20] <jldugger> im told suse does some pretty nifty things like provide mp3 playback by default, and detects most hardware properly.
[05:20] <eightiesk> :-(
[05:20] <Red_Herring> the FREE version cant get win32codecs
[05:20] <Red_Herring> or java
[05:21] <Red_Herring> or flash
[05:21] <Red_Herring> or opera
[05:21] <Cowlike> Red_Herring: at least Suse will correctly work with the power settings on your Dell laptop out of the box  ;)
[05:21] <Red_Herring> but the paid version is nice
[05:21] <Red_Herring> Cowlike: suse FUCKED UP the power setting on my laptop
[05:21] <owner> what about opensuse?
[05:21] <Red_Herring> kubuntu works perfecly
[05:21] <Red_Herring> owner: it sucks
[05:21] <owner> does suse use reiserfs?
[05:21] <Cowlike> Red_Herring: I have never yet been able to get kunbuntu to hibernate properly
[05:22] <Red_Herring> the only nice thing about suse is all the stuff that ya have ta get in ubuntu comes w/ suse
[05:22] <Red_Herring> the paid version
[05:22] <Cowlike> Red_Herring: crashes on restart  (prolly my ATI card)
[05:22] <Red_Herring> yeah
[05:22] <Red_Herring> ATI and linux sucks
[05:22] <owner> ati driver support sucks
[05:23] <Red_Herring> yup
[05:23] <owner> cowlike all of us ati fglrx users have that issue
[05:23] <Cowlike> owner and Red_Herring: everything is great w.r.t the ATI (opengl and all) except for the low power stuff
[05:23] <Red_Herring> i used to have ati
[05:23] <owner> it causes gdm/kdm to freeze when logging out
[05:23] <Red_Herring> but i hated it's linux support soooo much i got an nvidia card
[05:24] <Cowlike> owner: I have no such problem when logging out. only the power stuff gives me grief. everything else is great
[05:24] <Jestre> Is there a Psi 0.10 coming for kubuntu?
[05:24] <Red_Herring> whats Psi?
[05:24] <Red_Herring> !psi
[05:24] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Huh?
[05:24] <Jestre> Red_Herring: Jabber client
[05:24] <Red_Herring> hmm
[05:24] <eightiesk> owner ne luck?
[05:24] <dark_suic> kopete?
[05:24] <eightiesk> i been working on this for an hour.
[05:24] <Red_Herring> where are all ya from?
[05:25] <dark_suic> i have kopete for jabber :P
[05:25] <Red_Herring> i dont know anyone who uses jabber
[05:25] <dark_suic> spain, Red_Herring
[05:25] <Red_Herring> but i heard its popular in other places
[05:25] <dark_suic> Red_Herring, now you know :P
[05:25] <Red_Herring> yeah
[05:25] <eightiesk> Eastern USA here.
[05:25] <Red_Herring> i thoguth you told me that
[05:25] <Red_Herring> suberb of chicago here
[05:26] <Red_Herring> wheres everyone else from?
[05:26] <dark_suic> yeah, you asked the same yesterday :P
[05:26] <Red_Herring> yeah, and it was interesting to talk to someone from spain
[05:26] <Red_Herring> and finland
[05:27] <Red_Herring> i never would have learned about what others think of america if it wasnt for you guys
[05:28] <alekz> hi, how can i have sound on multiple aplications? if i use amaroK i dont have sound in firefox and same if i use firefox.. what can i do ?
[05:35] <Red_Herring> how do i add users?
[05:35] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: kuser
[05:36] <Red_Herring> terminal way
[05:36] <Red_Herring> im sshing into a debian box i made
[05:36] <Red_Herring> no way to use kuser
[05:37] <Jestre> adduser or useradd
[05:37] <Red_Herring> adduser doesnt work
[05:37] <Red_Herring> oh
[05:37] <Red_Herring> its useradd
[05:38] <Jestre> Either should work... depends on how much configuration I need for the user
[05:38] <Jestre> Though I've never used deb
[05:38] <Red_Herring> its the same as ubuntu
[05:38] <dark_suic> Jestre, in some distros both aren't installed, just one of them...
[05:39] <Red_Herring> actually to be accurate, ubuntu is the same as debian
[05:39] <dark_suic> well, more or less :P
[05:39] <Jestre> Sort of, kinda :)
[05:39] <dark_suic> ubuntu/kubuntu is more user friendly
[05:39] <Red_Herring> never mind
[05:39] <Red_Herring> i just forgot to run it as root
[05:39] <Red_Herring> wow
[05:39] <dark_suic> but debian sid is more uptodate
[05:39] <dark_suic> you should :P
[05:39] <Red_Herring> the base of debian is the same as ubuntu
[05:40] <Red_Herring> well
[05:40] <Red_Herring> its the closest thing ubuntu is to
[05:40] <Red_Herring> slight differences
[05:40] <dark_suic> yeah
[05:40] <Red_Herring> for example
[05:40] <dr_wu> if i may, Ubuntu is built around Debian?
[05:40] <Red_Herring> ifconfig
[05:40] <Red_Herring> dr_wu: yup
[05:40] <Red_Herring> nearly 100%
[05:41] <Red_Herring> when i run ifconfig as a normal user under debian, it claims that the command is not found
[05:41] <Red_Herring> it works fine as a normal user under ubuntu
[05:41] <Red_Herring> i like debian's way on that one
[05:43] <dark_suic> for servers it's way better, but for a desktop install :P
[05:44] <dark_suic> having to su for knowing your ip isn't the best way to do it :P
[05:44] <dark_suic> or just /sbin/ifconfig
[05:44] <Red_Herring> i think it is
[05:44] <Red_Herring> if someone is ssh'd into your box as a normal user, its nice for them not to know too much about teh computer ;-)
[05:44] <dark_suic> well, it's just 5:45 am here, i didn't remember that with ifconfig you actually can CHANGE  eth config :P
[05:44] <dark_suic> and as it's the time it is
[05:45] <dark_suic> i think my system is going down to sleep NOW!
[05:45] <Cowlike> if someone is ssh'd into your box, they sure as hell already know what your ip is
[05:46] <stupendo44> hey, it there any way to control the automatic "nice" changing that Kubuntu is doing
[05:46] <dark_suic> well, but if someone is able to ssh into your box it's sure he will know that /sbin/ifconfig works too
[05:46] <stupendo44> sometimes it will slow a program down, when I don't want it to
[05:46] <Red_Herring> not sure
[05:46] <stupendo44> like firefox, when it's taking up 200MB of RAM
[05:46] <Red_Herring> dark_suic: im trying to get a freind to learn ssh and linux
[05:46] <dark_suic> see you guys
[05:46] <Red_Herring> i dont want them to be able to use ifconfig
[05:47] <Cowlike> then make it 700
[05:47] <Cowlike> it's owned by root
[05:48] <_grigory> anyone uses mplayer here?
[05:48] <Red_Herring> sometimes
[05:48] <_grigory> can't get fullscreen to work
[05:48] <Red_Herring> _grigory: you have the latest drivers installed?
[05:48] <Red_Herring> video card drivers
[05:48] <_grigory> hm... i suppose no
[05:49] <fit4lfe> trying to link firefox 1.5 as a dchoot -d
[05:49] <fit4lfe> using kde
[05:49] <Red_Herring> dont use firefox1.5
[05:49] <Red_Herring> its backported too much
[05:49] <fit4lfe> why ?
[05:49] <Red_Herring> it uses newer libs
[05:49] <_grigory> i thought it was mplayer problem - it doesn't really fullscreen video, just puts it on the black background, original size
[05:49] <fit4lfe> I like the tabs though
[05:49] <fit4lfe> lol
[05:50] <Red_Herring> _grigory: no, its the hardware, and by extention the driver, that controls the expantion of that
[05:50] <_grigory> Red_Herring: ok, thanks... let's check out ati.com
[05:51] <Red_Herring> !fglrx
[05:51] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <Cowlike> fit4lf3: i've been using 1.5 since it came out and it's fine. has a memory leak but other than that :)
[05:51] <Red_Herring> JUST a memory leak
[05:52] <Red_Herring> ?!?!?!?!?
[05:52] <Red_Herring> thats a VERY bad thing
[05:52] <Cowlike> yes, just a leak
[05:52] <Cowlike> no shit
[05:52] <Red_Herring> thats what makes m$ suck
[05:52] <Cowlike> just shut it down every few days
[05:52] <Cowlike> I know, nobody likes leaks... just saying it works. no lib problems
[05:52] <Red_Herring> really?
[05:52] <Red_Herring> well
[05:52] <Cowlike> yes
[05:52] <Cowlike> really
[05:52] <Red_Herring> the leak is a lib problem
[05:53] <Red_Herring> i geruntee it
[05:53] <Cowlike> what lib problem is that, exactly?
[05:53] <Red_Herring> no clue
[05:53] <Red_Herring> but ff1.5 uses brand new libs
[05:53] <Red_Herring> which kubuntu doesnt have
[05:53] <Red_Herring> so it could be any one of them
[05:53] <Cowlike> tons of C and C++ programs leak and it has nothing to do with libs, just forgetting to match all your allocs with frees
[05:53] <Red_Herring> true
[05:54] <Red_Herring> but the normal ff doesnt leak
[05:54] <Red_Herring> under any OS
[05:54] <Cowlike> what is "normal"?
[05:54] <Cowlike> google and you'll see that it had plenty of leaks before as well
[05:54] <fit4lfe> having trouble with amarok :?
[05:54] <Red_Herring> ok
[05:54] <Red_Herring> whatever
[05:54] <Red_Herring> you win
[05:54] <fit4lfe> I get to the splash screen and then it keeps loading ?
[05:55] <Cowlike> kmail is crashing with all the latest updates. I consider that worse :(   I kinda like kmail too
[05:55] <Cowlike> breezy, that is
[05:57] <Cowlike> Has anyone here ever tried to get (k)ubuntu working in MS Virtual PC?  Every time I try to install, it crashes partway through the install. Very frustrating.
[05:59] <Red_Herring> thats MS virtual pc for ya
[05:59] <Red_Herring> we are a bunch of nerds who hate m$, ya think we got MS Virtual PC?
[05:59] <Cowlike> heh   sure, why not?
[06:00] <Traum> I just got bitten by that snake: the aversion to MS
[06:01] <Traum> I tried to change the partition type to bsd from msdos
[06:01] <Cowlike> i need win for the work vpn, unfortunately.   would like access to linux without going to my other box while i'm doing that
[06:01] <Red_Herring> same here
[06:01] <Traum> and could not configure lvm and raid in the partitioner
[06:01] <Red_Herring> i hate ms
[06:01] <stupendo44> Red_Herring: me too
[06:01] <Red_Herring> who doesnt here?
[06:02] <Red_Herring> i mean, this IS a linux chat room
[06:02] <Traum> next time you install ubuntu 5.10, try it
[06:02] <stupendo44> maybe you should by IHateMS.com
[06:02] <stupendo44> just because someone likes linux doesn't mean they hate MS
[06:02] <Traum> delete whole disk, and change type to something else...
[06:02] <Traum> besides msdos
[06:02] <Cowlike> stupendo44: i'm too old and work on too many systems to get religious about that :)
[06:03] <Cowlike> sure, I greatly prefer working on unix type systems but you can't all the time in work life.  well some of us can't
[06:03] <stupendo44> yeah, I can't really get paid for fixing someone's Windows XP computer while I'm complaining the whole time, "Man, I hate Microsoft. Man, I hate Microsoft."
[06:03] <Red_Herring> same here
[06:03] <Red_Herring> i just shut my mouth the entire time
[06:04] <stupendo44> I finally got my dns issue resolved, thanks to lunaphyte over in #dns. This is so awesome...
[06:04] <Red_Herring> rj.selfip.com
[06:04] <Red_Herring> thats my debian server
[06:04] <Red_Herring> :-)
[06:05] <Cowlike> oh no! we know ur ip!  ;)
[06:05] <stupendo44> ok, you could definitely do without the scrolling title bar
[06:06] <stupendo44> cheesy and annoying
[06:06] <Red_Herring> hey
[06:06] <Red_Herring> i made that in cp1
[06:06] <Red_Herring> i was learning JS
[06:06] <Red_Herring> that just got up today
[06:06] <Red_Herring> it was down for the last month
[06:07] <Cowlike> yikes! running ftp too   ;)
[06:07] <Red_Herring> Cowlike: nothing on the ftp site
[06:08] <Cowlike> just wondering why you'd run ftp server and ssh both
[06:08] <Red_Herring> yet... ;-)
[06:08] <Red_Herring> Cowlike: ssh cant transfer files
[06:08] <Cowlike> ummm yes it can
[06:08] <Red_Herring> REALLY?
[06:08] <Cowlike> man "scp"
[06:08] <Red_Herring> how
[06:08] <Cowlike> yes
[06:08] <Cowlike> really
[06:08] <bur[n] er> yes ssh can!!!
[06:08] <Red_Herring> scp is something else entirely
[06:08] <unix_infidel> anyone here use kwifimanager to manage multiple wireless AP's and to transition b/w them?
[06:08] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: sftp:// in nautilus or fish:// in konqueror or winscp.com for windows
[06:09] <Cowlike> bur[n] er   believe me, i've know that for a looooooong time
[06:09] <Red_Herring> bur[n] er: thats sftp
[06:09] <bur[n] er> scp is part of ssh, if you have ssh server, you have scp
[06:09] <Red_Herring> not ssh
[06:09] <Red_Herring> or ftp
[06:09] <Red_Herring> hmm
[06:09] <gamma> anyone getting 404 errors on dapper when trying to get the latest libasound, alsa-utils, ifupdown gconf2 libgconf2 gconf2-common libhal hal libhalstorage??
[06:09] <stupendo44> Red_Herring: One more suggestion, don't insert the full-size image into a reduced size on the page. The resizing always looks terrible
[06:09] <Cowlike> scp is part of the ssh distribution
[06:09] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: it's part of ssh server
[06:09] <Cowlike> look into it some time
[06:09] <stupendo44> the glue and bush pictures
[06:09] <Red_Herring> stupendo44: didnt i make a thumbnail?
[06:09] <Red_Herring> oh
[06:09] <Cowlike> ssh server handles that
[06:09] <Red_Herring> that one
[06:09] <Red_Herring> yeah
[06:09] <Red_Herring> willfix
[06:09] <stupendo44> Red_Herring: not for those two. A right-click View Picture shows the whole thing
[06:10] <bur[n] er> gamma: it's just the US repos
[06:10] <Red_Herring> oh yeah, forgot about those
[06:11] <eightiesk> !yahoo
[06:11] <gamma> bur[n] er: are they going to add it at some point? 0.o
[06:11] <ubotu> eightiesk: Huh?
[06:11] <eightiesk> !ymessenger
[06:11] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, eightiesk
[06:11] <eightiesk> !yahoomessenger
[06:11] <ubotu> eightiesk: Some people juggle geese
[06:11] <stupendo44> someone should register BestLinuxDistribution.com and direct it to Kubuntu
[06:12] <stupendo44> ubotu: some people juggle geese
[06:12] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, stupendo44
[06:12] <Red_Herring> good idea
[06:12] <bur[n] er> gamma: add what?  I don't know, i just switched all the us.ubuntu to fr.ubuntu ;)
[06:13] <bur[n] er> eightiesk: /msg ubotu
[06:13] <stupendo44> ubotu: some people juggle geese
[06:13] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, stupendo44
[06:14] <gamma> bur[n] er: haha i guess i'll do that too then :P
[06:15] <gamma> didn't france outlaw opensource?
[06:15] <bur[n] er> gamma: works for me so far, i hvaen't fully updated all my packages yet... should work though
[06:15] <bur[n] er> gamma: you prefer de. or uk. or au. ? ;)
[06:16] <gamma> haha i'll stick with the french i guess :P
[06:16] <gamma> i'm changing my list back once i upgrade though ;)
[06:24] <gamma> stupid question.. is laptop ram the same as desktop pc ram?
[06:33] <Red_Herring> wtf is with this!?!?!?
[06:33] <Red_Herring> i can get ftp as myself
[06:33] <Red_Herring> but i made an account for my freind...
[06:33] <Red_Herring> but he cant use his
[06:33] <Red_Herring> it gives him a password failure
[06:34] <eXSiR> is there a way to change dpi on kde ??
[06:35] <Cowlike> Red_Herring: is there a message in /var/log/messages?
[06:35] <Red_Herring> hmm
[06:36] <Cowlike> Red_Herring: it would be much easier to just have him use scp or sftp though
[06:36] <Cowlike> and more secure
[06:36] <Red_Herring> true
[06:36] <Cowlike> ftp transmits passwords over the wire in the clear
[06:41] <bur[n] er> eXSiR: by editing X itself
[06:41] <eXSiR> i found it but i dont know which value
[06:41] <eXSiR> sorry for this silly question
[06:42] <bur[n] er> eXSiR: it's probably set to 100 or 72 or
[06:42] <eXSiR> oke
[06:42] <eXSiR> i wanna setr it to 96
[06:42] <eXSiR> set*
[06:42] <eXSiR> i am reading man pages now
[06:43] <eXSiR> in fact the real problem is with my kde and gtk app. On kde desktop, gtk applications' font is very small!
[06:43] <slavik> what advice can you offer me to increase the eye candy in kde?
[06:44] <Red_Herring> eXSiR: look in systemsettings
[06:44] <Red_Herring> under appearence
[06:44] <Red_Herring> and font
[06:44] <Red_Herring> it should be there
[06:44] <eXSiR> there is no settings for dpi on kde
[06:44] <Red_Herring> well.. for gtk font's sizes
[06:44] <Red_Herring> there is
[06:45] <eXSiR> yes there is, but when i use it, this time my gnome desktop is messy
[06:45] <eXSiR> i use gnome and kde
[06:45] <eXSiR> on gnome desktop there is a setting for dpi
[06:45] <bur[n] er> shitty, there are no settings for dpi that are kde specific, no
[06:46] <eXSiR> yes
[06:46] <Red_Herring> anyone know how to resize ext3?
[06:46] <eXSiR> there is no
[06:46] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: qtparted
[06:46] <Red_Herring> or the windows extended partition?
[06:46] <Red_Herring> bur[n] er: no
[06:46] <bur[n] er> again, qtparted
[06:46] <bur[n] er> yes
[06:46] <Red_Herring> it cant resize
[06:46] <kkathman> Red_Herring: try QTparted
[06:46] <Red_Herring> well
[06:46] <bur[n] er> it can't
[06:46] <kkathman> er qtparted
[06:46] <Red_Herring> thats tough
[06:46] <bur[n] er> ?
[06:46] <bur[n] er> it can
[06:46] <Red_Herring> not when its my root partition i wanna resize
[06:46] <bur[n] er> u can't resize mounted partitions
[06:46] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: u can with a livecd :P
[06:46] <Red_Herring> any progs for windows?
[06:47] <Red_Herring> cuz i also need to resize my extended partition
[06:47] <Random1> really stupid question...where do i change my theme?
[06:47] <eXSiR> also ubuntu has gparted on dvd
[06:47] <bur[n] er> you're gonna want a livecd to do it
[06:47] <bur[n] er> Random1: kcontrol
[06:47] <eXSiR> live dvd
[06:47] <Random1> thx
[06:47] <Red_Herring> ok
[06:47] <Red_Herring> will do
[06:47] <Red_Herring> but i really wanna know how to resize the windows extended partition
[06:48] <kkathman> Red_Herring:  you can try parted or gparted also if you dont like the KDE version
[06:48] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: qtparted
[06:48] <Red_Herring> no
[06:48] <Red_Herring> it cant handle extended partitions
[06:48] <bur[n] er> yes
[06:48] <Red_Herring> i wanna install pcbsd
[06:48] <kkathman> yah bur[n] er I mentioned that earlier
[06:48] <bur[n] er> says who, it can resize extended!
[06:48] <bur[n] er> just not when mounted
[06:48] <bur[n] er> hence, livecd
[06:48] <Red_Herring> no
[06:48] <kkathman> qtparted handles extended partitions just fine
[06:48] <Red_Herring> the thing is
[06:49] <Red_Herring> bsd can only see the extended partition
[06:49] <Red_Herring> and nothing inside it
[06:49] <Red_Herring> so i need to get free space outside that extened partition outside it
[06:49] <Red_Herring> and i dont know how to do it
[06:50] <Random1> wth is a theme file?
[06:50] <owner> lol
[06:50] <eXSiR> :))
[06:50] <Red_Herring> bur[n] er: nice
[06:50] <Red_Herring> but its harder than it seems
[06:50] <owner> well he is a burner
[06:51] <owner> burns people hehe
[06:51] <Red_Herring> bsd can only see extended partitions and primary ones
[06:51] <Red_Herring> not logical ones
[06:51] <Red_Herring> so i need to turn a logical one into a primary one
[06:51] <Red_Herring> and thats my problem
[06:51] <owner> you can only have so many primary partitions
[06:51] <Red_Herring> i have 1
[06:52] <Red_Herring> that too much?
[06:52] <bur[n] er> resize your extended as small as it can be, make a new primary, move stuff from teh extended to the primary, delte teh extended
[06:52] <bur[n] er> u can have 4
[06:52] <Red_Herring> bur[n] er: i cant resize it under linux
[06:52] <eXSiR> yes only 4 primary on a hdd
[06:52] <Red_Herring> its a windows one
[06:53] <bur[n] er> Red_Herring: livecd livecd livecd livecd livecd
[06:53] <owner> i dunno about gparted but partition magic lets you turn logical partitions into primary
[06:53] <eXSiR> :))
[06:54] <Red_Herring> hmm
[06:54] <Red_Herring> will have to "obtain" partition magic
[06:55] <owner> :P
[06:58] <eXSiR> why doesn't kde have a dpi setting, why why why!
[06:58] <Red_Herring> because god hates you
[06:58] <eXSiR> :P
[06:58] <Red_Herring> dont worry, he hates me too
[06:59] <Tainted-Tim1> Do you know of a way to quickly install IE on Linux?
[06:59] <eXSiR> a wiki page, maybe my luck backs
[06:59] <Red_Herring> sure
[06:59] <Red_Herring> hmm
[06:59] <Red_Herring> wine-sidenet
[06:59] <Red_Herring> i had it for a while
[06:59] <Red_Herring> it was POINTLESS
[06:59] <Red_Herring> but i have a picure of it on my site
[06:59] <Tainted-Tim1> I have to.
[07:00] <Tainted-Tim1> Im a webdesigner, and need to test it.
[07:00] <Red_Herring> try wine-sidenet
[07:00] <Tainted-Tim1> Once I get my laptop running ill be good.
[07:00] <owner> IE6 works well under wine
[07:00] <owner> but you need to install dcom98
[07:00] <Red_Herring> but who wants it?
[07:00] <owner> or websites run slow
[07:00] <Tainted-Tim1> Who wants what?
[07:00] <owner> probably just for testing red herring
[07:00] <Red_Herring> i know
[07:00] <Red_Herring> but still
[07:00] <Tainted-Tim1> Yeah, testing. I need to test it.
[07:00] <Red_Herring> its retarded
[07:01] <Tainted-Tim1> I can't convince all my clients to convice their users to download FF and Ubuntu.
[07:01] <owner> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[07:01] <Red_Herring> not ubuntu
[07:01] <Red_Herring> just firefox
[07:01] <Tainted-Tim1> Same thing.
[07:01] <Tainted-Tim1> It's impossible.
[07:01] <Red_Herring> damn frostwire sucks
[07:01] <Red_Herring> it disgusts me
[07:02] <Tainted-Tim1> Fuck, thats why I had to restart.
[07:02] <Tainted> Where can I get the dcom shit?
[07:03] <Red_Herring> Tainted: look at the link above
[07:03] <Red_Herring> sidenet
[07:03] <Tainted> I did...
[07:03] <Tainted> Oh they have it there?
[07:03] <owner> dcom98 is available from the ms website
[07:03] <Red_Herring> i think so...
[07:05] <Tainted> I wish someone would make a native-linux browser to emulate the shitty IE.
[07:05] <Red_Herring> why?
[07:05] <Red_Herring> its just that, shitty
[07:06] <Red_Herring> why would i waste my time making a shitty browser?
[07:06] <Tainted> Lol, so it runs natively.
[07:06] <Tainted> For people like me.
[07:06] <owner> konquerer can fake ie6 browser
[07:06] <owner>  tags
[07:06] <Red_Herring> well, the keyword there is fake
[07:06] <Red_Herring> it just sets the document.browser to ie6
[07:06] <Tainted> Well the fucking keyword in my statement is fucking NATIVE!
[07:07] <Tainted> Not emulated.
[07:07] <Tainted> For people who need it.
[07:07] <eXSiR> i made it
[07:07] <eXSiR> i found the dpi settings
[07:07] <eXSiR> :))
[07:07] <eXSiR> i love linux, because everthing is possible
[07:08] <Red_Herring> not everything
[07:08] <owner> microsoft should release ie6 for linux
[07:08] <owner> yeah right :)
[07:08] <Tainted> That's not what I mean.
[07:08] <Tainted> Lol.
[07:08] <owner> but they did have a mac version
[07:08] <owner> until recently
[07:08] <Tainted> I mean someone emulate the way it processes all the shit.
[07:08] <Red_Herring> its just on linux you can do almost anything w/o your computer crashing when you try and save it
[07:08] <Red_Herring> ;-)
[07:08] <eXSiR> everything is possible, u can be sure... it makes me coffee while i work :P
[07:08] <Red_Herring> wow
[07:09] <Red_Herring> i really want paragon partition manager
[07:09] <Red_Herring> but i cant find it anywhere
[07:09] <bur[n] er> qtparted > paragon
[07:09] <eXSiR> there is a wiki page for dpi settings, if u wanna look... http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Control_Font_DPI_in_X
[07:09] <Red_Herring> by anywhere, i mean "best buy" (limewire)
[07:10] <Red_Herring> bur[n] er: not for windows partitions
[07:10] <eXSiR> Red_Herring: u can use norton partition magic fow windows
[07:10] <Red_Herring> well
[07:10] <Red_Herring> i could...
[07:10] <Demented> hello again
[07:10] <eXSiR> and with a live cd u can use gparted or parted
[07:10] <Red_Herring> lemme try that
[07:10] <Red_Herring> eXSiR: i wanna use my windows drive, it has more free space
[07:10] <eXSiR> i prefer a live cd if i were u
[07:11] <eXSiR> u can use a live cd or norton partiton magic with windows
[07:11] <Red_Herring> NO LINUX APP CAN RESIZE MY EXTENDED WINDOWS PARTITON AND MAKE MY FREE SPACE A PRIMARY PARTITION
[07:11] <Red_Herring> ok
[07:11] <eXSiR> what is it, ntfs
[07:11] <Red_Herring> partly
[07:11] <Red_Herring> i have a fat32 partition in there
[07:11] <eXSiR> gparted can resize it
[07:11] <Red_Herring> and i wanna use that to install bsd
[07:12] <Red_Herring> but thats the thing
[07:12] <Red_Herring> its in an extended partition
[07:12] <Red_Herring> and bsd cant see it
[07:14] <owner> which bsd are you installing?
[07:14] <Red_Herring> pcbsd
[07:14] <Red_Herring> which is freebsd
[07:14] <Red_Herring> w/ kde
[07:14] <Red_Herring> i think it sounds neat
[07:15] <owner> yes
[07:15] <owner> never heard of it before now
[07:15] <Red_Herring> !pcbsd
[07:15] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Some people juggle geese
[07:15] <Red_Herring> oh, fine
[07:15] <Red_Herring> deny the existance of other distros
[07:15] <apappu> Kopete and google talk
[07:15] <Red_Herring> ubotu: can you google things for me?
[07:15] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Huh?
[07:16] <apappu> hello can any one helo me in configuring kopete and google talk
[07:16] <Red_Herring> not yet
[07:16] <Red_Herring> the talk protocol isnt out yet
[07:16] <Red_Herring> well... it isnt worked into kopete yet
[07:16] <Red_Herring> so no sound
[07:16] <apappu> i am able to connect to google talk with gaim
[07:17] <apappu> http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[07:17] <Red_Herring> so you dont mind the lack of sound?
[07:17] <owner> !google google
[07:17] <ubotu> owner: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[07:17] <apappu> chedk the above ink
[07:17] <Tainted> !google
[07:17] <ubotu> google is, like, a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[07:17] <Tainted> !fuck
[07:17] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Tainted
[07:17] <Red_Herring> hmm
[07:17] <Tainted> !lol
[07:17] <ubotu> Tainted: What?
[07:18] <Red_Herring> !stupid
[07:18] <ubotu> Red_Herring: I haven't a clue
[07:18] <apappu> google I think is not using any proprietary protocol so any help will be appreciated
[07:18] <Red_Herring> !ubotu
[07:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[07:18] <Tainted> ubotu, do you have a girlfriend.
[07:18] <ubotu> Tainted: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:18] <Tainted> !lart Red_Herring
[07:18] <Red_Herring> i just got one!
[07:18] <Red_Herring> owe
[07:18] <Red_Herring> that hurt
[07:18] <Red_Herring> now i cant reproduce
[07:18] <Tainted> Yeah you can...
[07:19] <Tainted> Just not with your penis.
[07:19] <Red_Herring> well
[07:19] <Red_Herring> not the "conservative" way
[07:19] <Tainted> :D
[07:19] <Red_Herring> thanks, just as i got a girlfreind
[07:20] <Red_Herring> this is gonna go well
[07:21] <Red_Herring> !lart Tainted
[07:21] <owner> lol
[07:21] <Red_Herring> oooo
[07:21] <Red_Herring> take that
[07:25] <Red_Herring> whats the latest version of partiton magic?
[07:25] <Random1> how do i get the little bar thingie that tells my system stats?
[07:26] <Red_Herring> look under applets
[07:26] <Red_Herring> when you right click the bar
[07:26] <Random1> ummm
[07:26] <Random1> ok
[07:26] <Random1> are u talking about the task bar?
[07:27] <Red_Herring> whatever that bar is called
[07:27] <Random1> oh found it
[07:27] <Random1> crap, do i have to install it first?
[07:28] <Traum> !apt
[07:28] <ubotu> it has been said that apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[07:28] <Red_Herring> Random1: shount have to
[07:29] <Random1> hmmm
[07:29] <Random1> its that bar that tells you CPU usage and such
[07:29] <Red_Herring> now that i think abou tit
[07:29] <Red_Herring> about it*
[07:30] <Red_Herring> (thinking about those too)
[07:30] <Red_Herring> you DO need to install it
[07:30] <Red_Herring> dont know what its called
[07:30] <Random1> ok
[07:30] <Random1> well
[07:30] <Random1> lol
[07:30] <Random1> that's a start
[07:30] <ilba7r> Random1, are you talking about gdesklets or gkrellm
[07:31] <Random1> no idea, hold let me show you a screenshot
[07:31] <Red_Herring> ilba7r: i think hes talking about kde
[07:31] <ilba7r> Random1, through it onto the pastebin
[07:31] <Random1> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/153-1.jpg you see that bar on the left?
[07:31] <Random1> something like that
[07:32] <ilba7r> Red_Herring, this picture is of gkrellm
[07:32] <ilba7r> Random1, it is the one used with fluxbox and damn small linux
[07:32] <Random1> no idea
[07:32] <LiteHedded> has anyone installed nzbget??
[07:33] <ilba7r> Random1, here are some screen shots http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[07:33] <Red_Herring> ooooo
[07:33] <Red_Herring> that bar
[07:33] <Red_Herring> ok
[07:33] <Red_Herring> hmm
[07:34] <ilba7r> there are different themes for it different colours
[07:34] <Red_Herring> here
[07:34] <Random1> ohhhhh, so can i install that with Adept?
[07:34] <ilba7r> random1 the packagename is gkrellm
[07:34] <ilba7r> and you can install it it is in the repos
[07:34] <Red_Herring> panel menu --> add to panel --> panel --> kasbar
[07:34] <Random1> ty
[07:34] <Red_Herring> no, not kasbar
[07:35] <Red_Herring> hmm
[07:35] <Red_Herring> maybe it is kasbar
[07:35] <Random1> gkrellm doesnt show up on Adept
[07:35] <ilba7r> here are some themes you can check http://www.muhri.net/
[07:35] <ilba7r> random1 perhaps you do not have the right repos
[07:35] <ilba7r> let me check where it is
[07:35] <Random1> ohhh, what's repos? lol
[07:36] <Red_Herring> !repos
[07:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:36] <ilba7r> it is in universe
[07:36] <Random1> ohhh, ya
[07:37] <ilba7r> !easysource
[07:37] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:37] <ilba7r> that is the easiest way random1
[07:37] <Random1> ok
[07:39] <ilba7r> oh this guy is running it with enlightenment 17 a real eye candy
[07:39] <Red_Herring> yup
[07:39] <ilba7r> http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=screenshots
[07:39] <Red_Herring> i have it installe
[07:39] <Red_Herring> BOY IS IT BUGGY
[07:39] <ilba7r> am waiting for the stable
[07:39] <Red_Herring> i need to use cvs to install it
[07:39] <ilba7r> for i had it installed then maintining it a pain
[07:40] <Red_Herring> ilba7r: you waiting
[07:40] <Red_Herring> prepare to wait a LONG time
[07:40] <Red_Herring> you know how long e16 came out?
[07:40] <Red_Herring> in 2000
[07:40] <ilba7r> no problem am quite happy with ion3 and fluxbox so far
[07:41] <Red_Herring> i like kde
[07:41] <ilba7r> take too many resources
[07:41] <ilba7r> and i love window tabbing
[07:41] <stoned> I can't seem to run kynaptic/synaptic.  it fials with su returned with error, when I launch it from console, I get this, |(synaptic:27729): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:.  apparantly root ran programs can't run on X.  how exactly do I run get synaptic to work
[07:41] <Red_Herring> surprixingly fast on mine
[07:41] <Red_Herring> stoned: did you enable su?
[07:41] <stoned> how?
[07:41] <Red_Herring> run it using sudo
[07:41] <Random1> i still can't find this gkrellm
[07:42] <Red_Herring> you shouldnt enable su, so if you dont know wtf im talking about, thats good
[07:42] <ilba7r> random1 reload first
[07:42] <Random1> i enabled both restricted and universe
[07:42] <ilba7r> reload the sources.list
[07:42] <kkathman> Red_Herring:  yah we typically dont tell people to do that
[07:42] <Red_Herring> i know
[07:42] <Random1> umm
[07:42] <kkathman> its not wise
[07:42] <Random1> how?
[07:42] <stoned> sudo kynaptic doesn't tell me anything, just sits there
[07:42] <stoned> no errors
[07:42] <Red_Herring> i was telling him NOT to run it using su
[07:42] <kkathman> if people are experienced, they already know that...if they arent, they shouldnt be running at root
[07:42] <Red_Herring> kkathman: is it really more secure to run it as sudo?
[07:42] <kkathman> yes
[07:42] <kkathman> much
[07:42] <Red_Herring> elaborate
[07:43] <Red_Herring> ive been told both ways
[07:43] <kkathman> its a very superior model to root
[07:43] <kkathman> you have much more selective control over sudo than root
[07:43] <stoned> well how superior is it really, cuz it doesn't work
[07:43] <Red_Herring> well... i have been told it still has many of the shortcomings su has
[07:43] <ilba7r> random1 for sure there is source reload button. if you can not find it close adept and run this in a terminal. sudo apt-get update
[07:43] <Random1> oh, i got iy
[07:43] <kkathman> yes it does stoned
[07:43] <Random1> it*
[07:43] <kkathman> it works great
[07:43] <stoned> kkathman: i know
[07:43] <stoned> so help me get it wokrin gman
[07:44] <stoned> i can't run synaptic/kynaptic because of this
[07:44] <kkathman> you dont have sudo working?
[07:44] <stoned> apparantly not
[07:44] <kkathman> what happens when you try to run something with sudo?
[07:45] <stoned> nothing
[07:45] <stoned> it takes the command, but nothing happens
[07:45] <ilba7r> stoned do you have administrative privalages
[07:45] <ilba7r> are you in the sudoers file?
[07:45] <stoned> ilba7r: applications ran as root error out with can't open display
[07:45] <stoned> ilba7r: i don't know
[07:46] <Random1> ok, so i installed gkrellm, but how do i get it up?
[07:46] <stoned> first thing I did after i installed ubuntu was sudo su passwd
[07:46] <ilba7r> when sudo do not do anything this mean your account is not in the sudo users
[07:46] <stoned> and set a pass on root
[07:46] <owner> stoned thats X security
[07:46] <kkathman> well then anything you do with sudo is moot then
[07:46] <owner> you have to type xhost +
[07:46] <kkathman> stoned:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?action=show&redirect=UsingSudo
[07:46] <owner> and then you can run apps from root
[07:46] <owner> su account
[07:47] <stoned> here it goes
[07:47] <stoned> owner: thanks dude man homie bro
[07:47] <owner> np
[07:47] <stoned> sudo was crashing cuz of that too
[07:47] <owner> shouldnt do..
[07:47] <stoned> hmm apparantly not
[07:48] <stoned> now kynaptic works but synaptic don't
[07:48] <stoned> gaaaRHQQ!
[07:48] <stoned> how does one add an account to the sudoers list
[07:48] <owner> use visudo
[07:50] <stoned> there it goes
[07:50] <stoned> man i'll smoke a bowl to your good health
[07:50] <stoned> sudo is kickin rectums
[07:50] <owner> lol
[07:50] <owner> i have this line in my sudoers file
[07:50] <owner> %admin	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:51] <owner> thats how ubuntu sets up sudoers
[07:51] <stoned> yeh
[07:51] <stoned> i just copied the one for root, and subsituted for username
[07:51] <stoned> i don't like kynaptic
[07:52] <stoned> now i need to install prawn viewing gear
[07:52] <stoned> oh hey, I can't find kplayer anywhere in kubuntu
[07:53] <owner> its not installed
[07:53] <stoned> mplayer/gmplayer don't have the sdl output lib.  I use sdl for videos
[07:53] <stoned> what if i used marillat's kplayer package on kubuntu
[07:53] <owner> yes
[07:53] <owner> thats a good idea
[07:53] <owner> because its not in the official repos
[07:54] <stoned> i just hope there isn't any dep probs
[07:54] <owner> true
[07:54] <owner> marillat is for debian
[07:54] <owner> unstable
[07:55] <stoned> and etch/sarge as well
[07:55] <LiteHedded> nzbget users here?
[07:55] <stoned> lets hope one of them works
[07:55] <owner> lol
[07:55] <stoned> i really hate install dev packages to compile one app
[07:55] <owner> yes
[07:55] <owner> i had to compile kmplayer last time i wanted it
[07:56] <stoned> i need another 19" monitor
[07:58] <ilba7r> ok an old question anyone know of a pdf editor for linux
[07:58] <EightiesK> how can i get to my linux files in windows?
[07:58] <ilba7r> editor not form filling tool
[07:58] <ilba7r> EightiesK, ext2fs
[07:58] <ilba7r> !ext2fs
[07:58] <ubotu> ilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:59] <EightiesK> lpol
[07:59] <ilba7r> http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
[08:03] <LiteHedded> does anyone use NZBGET?
[08:03] <LiteHedded> I can't figure out the cfg file
[08:04] <ilba7r> LiteHedded, am afraid your only way so far is to google it or ask in ubuntu channel
[08:04] <LiteHedded> yea I've tried
[08:05] <ilba7r> LiteHedded, it would be easier if you just cast your specific question
[08:06] <LiteHedded> ok in the nzbget.cfg file
[08:06] <LiteHedded> for server IP I don't know what to put
[08:06] <EightiesK> ilba7r, it won't load.
[08:06] <LiteHedded> there's another option that asks for my news server URL
[08:06] <ilba7r> EightiesK, what will not load?
[08:07] <ilba7r> LiteHedded, in ubuntu you may have more chance of an answer :). just ask your question there and do not say who uses a package
[08:07] <LiteHedded> if no one uses it they won't be able to help
[08:08] <LiteHedded> my question is complicated
[08:08] <ilba7r> LiteHedded, they will answer most of the time direct questions not vague ones. try it you will loose nothing
[08:13] <stoned> how do i get the navigation sidepanel in konq.  it seems to have disappeared
[08:13] <GameOver69> hey guys where can i download extensions for konquerer
[08:17] <stoned> hello
[08:18] <stoned> i don't have the save view profile/loda view profile etc in konqueror menu
[08:18] <stoned> what happened
[08:18] <stoned> i hope i don't have to regret installing ubuntu over debian
[08:18] <stoned> :(
[08:25] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can find the matrix code animation somewhere WITHOUT it being in screensaver form?
[08:28] <unix_infidel> ANYONE?!?
[08:39] <Traumi> !root
[08:39] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:42] <Tm_T> ubotu: krhm, yelling doesn't help
[08:42] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Tm_T
[08:42] <Tm_T> whops
[08:42] <Tm_T> unix_infidel: I mean
[08:42] <Tm_T> ubotu: how are you?
[08:42] <ubotu> shiny!, Tm_T
[08:42] <Tm_T> :)
[09:14] <Himel> Is there a difference in the drivers included in Kubuntu and Ubuntu? Ubuntu is working fine with the wifi adaptors I'm using (Netgear W311v2), but Kubuntu doesn't pick up the wireless access point, and states that my network probably isn't using DHCP, even though it is.
[09:14] <hussam> My upgrade to dapper worked but I after I reboot, it says: Alert! /dev/hdb2 does not exist Dropping to shell. Anyway I can fix this?
[09:15] <eXSiR> kubuntu doesnt detect the network correctly, u should set it urself
[09:17] <kkathman> eXSiR: actually Kubuntu sets it just fine if you are connected to the net when installing...I've not had a problem with that at all
[09:18] <eXSiR> i am using an ethernet card and kubuntu didnt detect my connection
[09:18] <eXSiR> i set it after
[09:23] <Captainbraille> Whats a good engine to play Mp3s with for amaroK? Can you set up RealPlayer10 for that?
[09:25] <eXSiR> u can try xine or gstreamer engines with alsasink
[09:26] <Captainbraille> eXSiR: What is alasink?
[09:26] <kkathman> eXSiR: my install was smooth as silk, and it never had a problem...with 3 machines, 3 different cards, and 2 of those are older machines too :)
[09:26] <eXSiR> i mean u can set this engines for alsa output
[09:26] <Captainbraille> ohhh, okay =) thanks lemme try that
[09:27] <eXSiR> i am using gstream engine with alsa
[09:27] <eXSiR> but i tried xine and it worked too
[09:28] <Captainbraille> eXSiR: I'm looking in Adept for alsa, which one should I get?
[09:28] <Tainted> Fuck yeah.
[09:28] <eXSiR> for amarok?
[09:29] <Tainted> Got IE working, not that I like IE, but I need it.
[09:29] <Tainted> I'm a webdesigner.
[09:29] <Captainbraille> Yeah, amarok
[09:29] <Tainted> So, I have to test for Windows IE mainyl
[09:29] <Tainted> mainly*
[09:29] <eXSiR> try amarok-engines
[09:30] <eXSiR> it will install amarok-xine, amarok-gstreamer and amarok-arts
[09:30] <Captainbraille> Will alsa also let me use the "Eq?"
[09:32] <eXSiR> i am using alsa on my ubuntu and kubuntu and there is no problem
[09:33] <aeon17x> Some of the alsa problems come from playing restricted formats like MP3s.
[09:33] <fatejudger> is anyone able to use checkinstall in Dapper?
[09:33] <fatejudger> I think the package is broken
[09:33] <eXSiR> u can install akode-mpeg package for amarok to listen mp3s
[09:34] <fatejudger> or there's some bug
[09:34] <fatejudger> in checkinstall itself
[09:34] <Captainbraille> Sound System- GStreamer Engine / Output Plugin: alsasink  -- It's not working with MP3s for me
[09:34] <eXSiR> did u install akode-mpeg package
[09:35] <eXSiR> it is neccessary to listen mp3s
[09:36] <Captainbraille> You my friend are a genius
[09:36] <eXSiR> after install this package try 'killall artsd' then try again
[09:38] <Captainbraille> I just type 'killall artsd' in the konsole?
[09:38] <Tainted> http://infiniti-hax.com/images/ss.png
[09:38] <Tainted> Help me fix that.
[09:38] <eXSiR> without '
[09:39] <Tainted> Look at the clock on the bottom right.
[09:39] <Tainted> Also may I suggest downloading this: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29153 ?
[09:40] <Tainted> It's an awesome little app.
[09:42] <Tainted> Anyone have an ideas whats wrong with my clock?
[09:45] <Captainbraille> eXSiR: I still can't get it to work =\
[09:47] <eXSiR> i dont know why but u can try edit /etc/libao.conf as default_driver=alsa
[09:47] <eXSiR> maybe this works
[09:47] <Tainted> eXSiR: Will you help me?
[09:48] <Captainbraille> I don't know, but thank you for the help eXSiR =)
[09:48] <eXSiR> Tainted: i am not helper, just a user and dont know why it happened to u
[09:48] <Tainted> Ah, ok.
[09:48] <Captainbraille> Whats wrong with your clock Tainted?
[09:48] <Tainted> I don't know...
[09:49] <Tainted> http://infiniti-hax.com/images/ss.png
[09:49] <Captainbraille> Is something wrong with the time or timezone?
[09:49] <Tainted> No, the background.
[09:49] <eXSiR> Captainbraille: may /etc/libao.conf is alsa and i am using amarok gstreamer engine with alsasink, i installed akode-mpeg
[09:49] <eXSiR> this is just what i did and worked for me
[09:50] <fatejudger> !win32codecs
[09:50] <ubotu> I heard win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:51] <Captainbraille> That is weird Tainted
[09:53] <fatejudger> !w32codecs
[09:53] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:54] <Captainbraille> I'm trying that out =)
[09:55] <Tainted> !lart fatejudger
[09:55] <Tainted> !lart Captainbraille
[09:56] <Tainted> Lol
[09:56] <Captainbraille> Noooooooo! Hahaha
[09:56] <Captainbraille> !lart Tainted
[09:56] <Tainted> Wow
[09:56] <Captainbraille> Haha, those are funny
[09:56] <Tainted> !lart Captainbraille
[09:56] <Captainbraille> not as creative, but still effective
[09:57] <Tainted> Lol
[09:57] <Tainted> What IRC client do you use?
[09:58] <Captainbraille> Kopete? Is that right Tainted?
[09:59] <kkathman> Kopete is an IM proggie
[09:59] <kkathman> IRC - like xchat, Konversation, or Kvirc
[09:59] <kkathman> or irssi at CLI
[10:00] <Tainted> Ah ok.
[10:00] <Tainted> I'm using gAIM and X-Chat.
[10:16] <blekos> hello ppl
[10:21] <blekos> is there a theme manager for kde?
[10:23] <Hobbsee> blekos: it's in system settings, appearance
[10:23] <blekos> i do not meen only for icons
[10:23] <Hobbsee> colours tab
[10:24] <blekos> o i c
[10:25] <blekos> and can i istall there themes from kde-look?
[10:25] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:26] <weedar> How do I change the file association in KDE? (specifically for text/html)
[10:26] <Tainted> Hey!
[10:32] <_andrea> hello. how can i apply a new theme i downloaded?
[10:32] <blekos> can anyone tell how i can have an icon of the mounted drive on my desktop?
[10:33] <_andrea> blekos
[10:34] <_andrea> right click on desktop
[10:34] <_andrea> then go on configure desktop
[10:34] <_andrea> choose the Behaviour tab
[10:34] <_andrea> then go on Device Icons
[10:34] <_andrea> and tick "Mounted Hard Disk Volume"
[10:34] <Hobbsee> _andrea: in system settings, appearances, colours
[10:36] <_andrea> Hobbsee: my package is a tar.gz format file
[10:36] <_andrea> and when i extracted it...i get lots of folders
[10:37] <Hobbsee> you dont usually have to extract them...
[10:37] <Hobbsee> i think
[10:37] <blekos> it is alreaydy ticked...
[10:37] <Hobbsee> you got it from kde-look.org?
[10:37] <Hobbsee> instructions are there for it
[10:38] <_andrea> yes
[10:40] <_andrea> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668
[10:40] <_andrea> where are the instructions?
[10:41] <_andrea> have to go for now
[10:41] <_andrea> 10q
[10:41] <_andrea> byeee
[10:45] <Tainted> Is anyone here fluent with Javascript?
[10:56] <Tainted> hey!
[10:56] <Tainted> Is anyone here good with Javascript?
[10:57] <Tainted> !javascript
[10:57] <ubotu> Tainted: Syntax error in line 1
[10:57] <Tainted> !js
[10:57] <ubotu> Tainted: I give up, what is it?
[10:57] <Tainted> !c
[10:58] <ubotu> Tainted: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:58] <Tainted> !you
[10:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:58] <Tainted> !me
[10:58] <ubotu> Tainted: Syntax error in line 1
[10:58] <Tainted> !crack
[10:58] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[10:58] <Tainted> !pot
[10:58] <ubotu> Not a clue, Tainted
[10:59] <Tainted> !poop
[10:59] <ubotu> Tainted: I haven't a clue
[10:59] <Tainted> !sex
[10:59] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, Tainted
[10:59] <Tainted> !tainted
[10:59] <ubotu> Tainted: What?
[10:59] <Tainted> !lart tainted
[10:59] <laga> !yo momma
[10:59] <ubotu> laga: Syntax error in line 1
[10:59] <laga> hehe
[10:59] <Tainted> !lart laga
[10:59] <Tainted> !lart laga
[10:59] <laga> :/
[10:59] <Tainted> !lart laga
[11:00] <Tainted> ARe you good with Javascript?
[11:00] <laga> ope
[11:00] <laga> nope*
[11:00] <Tainted> Oh.
[11:18] <mindfocus> hello
[11:19] <Hobbsee_away> hi
[11:19] <mindfocus> I just installed Kubuntu, very nice indeed.
[11:30] <weedar> During boot, when I see "configuring interfaces", what script is run? It hangs so I need to alter it
[11:36] <Tainted> Is anyone here good with Javascript?
[12:26] <blekos> is it possible to c in kopete simultaenously contacts from yahoo &msn etc?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> blekos: yes, just add all the accounts, and sign in with them
[12:29] <blekos> ok thanks
[12:30] <blekos> do u hava any idea why i cant c my mounted drive on the desktop?
[12:30] <blekos> i've checked the button from the menu... but no luck
[12:40] <Mythril> I don't know what is going on, I recently installed Kubuntu and it works great for the first hour and a half, then suddenly drive access picks up, and I can't do anything more, even trying to open a console can take upwards of an hour, what is going on?
[12:49] <knubbe> is there a GSynaptics but for KDE?
[12:50] <Hobbsee> ksynaptics
[12:51] <Tm_T> too simple
[12:57] <knubbe> Hobbsee: hah, thank you  :-)
[12:57] <knubbe> Tm_T: indeed
[12:57] <Hobbsee> knubbe: no problem
[01:02] <Bobikus> is it a good thing to upgrade to kde 3.5 or better wait and use 3.4.3? are there any problems whick may occur?
[01:04] <Tm_T> Bobikus: I would say "upgrade!" but I'm using dapper so don't listen my opinion ;(
[01:09] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: did you upgrade to 3.5.1 testing?
[01:10] <knubbe> Bobikus: 3.5 isnt unstable
[01:11] <_david> hy
[01:16] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: sure
[01:16] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: how is it?
[01:16] <Tm_T> fine here
[01:16] <Tm_T> I'm now wondering celestia and why it's not loading map textures
[01:17] <muzzle> It seems wine can't open my setup.exe correct. Do I need some kinky arguments for wine?
[01:18] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: hmmm...might try it then
[01:20] <Bobikus> ok, thanks for information
[01:21] <JohnFlux> mmm, information
[01:22] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: :)
[01:23] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:24] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: not as much I do ;)
[01:24] <Hobbsee> true
[01:26] <muzzle> How do I code a GUI app for Kubuntu? What lib. do I need etc? I've done alot of coding with the win32 api and c++.
[01:26] <muzzle> but I am totally new with linux
[01:26] <Blejdfist> QT
[01:27] <Blejdfist> muzzle: you can find documentation and tutorials at http://doc.trolltech.com/
[01:28] <muzzle> and thanks :D
[01:28] <Blejdfist> np
[01:28] <Blejdfist> good luck
[01:29] <muzzle> so when I make some win32 app. it runs on all windows versions. How is it with linux?
[01:29] <Blejdfist> as long as there is QT installed
[01:29] <muzzle> If I make something for Kubuntu it doesn't nes. run on other linux systems?
[01:29] <Blejdfist> it will run on any Linux system that have the libraries you use
[01:30] <muzzle> ok cool
[01:30] <muzzle> QT is the standard lib?
[01:30] <Blejdfist> and if they don't have it.. they can install it
[01:30] <muzzle> for GUI coding?
[01:30] <Blejdfist> no there are many others
[01:30] <muzzle> alrighty
[01:30] <muzzle> but you like QT I guess, hehe
[01:30] <Blejdfist> but it's one of the most used and it's well documented
[01:30] <Blejdfist> i'm quite new to QT actually.. i have been using GTK
[01:30] <muzzle> That's important. The documentation.
[01:31] <muzzle> Is it hard? QT?
[01:31] <Blejdfist> no not really
[01:31] <muzzle> Coding c++ with the win32 api is SO easy.
[01:31] <Blejdfist> well if you are used to creating windows etc in Win32 API then QT is easier :)
[01:32] <muzzle> Cool. That's what I wanted to hear ;)
[01:32] <Blejdfist> go with kdevelop and you will have a good IDE for developing
[01:33] <Blejdfist> only one thing i don't like with QT so far.. and that's the signaling system
[01:33] <muzzle> alright
[01:33] <Blejdfist> but that's just a matter of taste i guess
[01:34] <muzzle> It seems it's all C++ in that URL you gave me. They don't document C coding?
[01:34] <Blejdfist> QT is a C++-library
[01:34] <muzzle> hehe ofcourse
[01:34] <muzzle> hmm
[01:35] <muzzle> so what would you recomend for C?
[01:35] <muzzle> I normally use C++, but with school we have to use C.
[01:35] <Blejdfist> GTK is C but it also has C++-wrappers (gtkmm)
[01:35] <muzzle> ok
[01:36] <muzzle> I'll just download a c++ compiler and try the tutorial. It's so new for me. I'm like a kid who just got candy ;)
[01:36] <Blejdfist> apt-get install build-essential
[01:36] <Blejdfist> and you will get the compiler tools
[01:36] <muzzle> gpp ?
[01:36] <Blejdfist> gcc
[01:37] <Blejdfist> GNU Compiler Collection
[01:37] <muzzle> gcc is only for c code?
[01:37] <muzzle> That's what I thought
[01:37] <Blejdfist> C/C++ compilers
[01:37] <muzzle> oh
[01:37] <Blejdfist> it contains g++ that is for C++
[01:37] <muzzle> what is gpp then? hehe
[01:37] <Blejdfist> no idea where you got that from :)
[01:38] <Blejdfist> gpp - a general-purpose preprocessor with customizable syntax
[01:38] <knubbe> is there a gui (or tutorial somewhere) to set up TV-out on other video cards than nvidia? (i have intel media accellerator i915)
[01:38] <muzzle> Blejdfist: hehe okay. Don't know either.
[01:38] <Blejdfist> muzzle: For GTK i can recommend using glade to create the GUI
[01:39] <muzzle> okay
[01:39] <Blejdfist> you can use the glade-lib for GTK to load the glade XML file and it can autoconnect buttons to you functions etc
[01:39] <Blejdfist> it can even generate C-code for you to get you up and running :)
[01:41] <muzzle> hehe ok
[01:44] <muzzle> I can't find anywhere to download the files, hehe
[01:45] <muzzle> I want to isntall QT
[01:45] <muzzle> install*
[01:48] <Blejdfist> it's in apt
[01:48] <Blejdfist> use the package manager and install what you need
[01:48] <muzzle> so what do I write? When I did the search for it I got MANY lines, hehe
[01:49] <Blejdfist> unline windows you shouldn't download stuff and install :)
[01:49] <muzzle> not sure what I need. I'll try and find some tutorial on how to get started, hehe
[01:49] <Blejdfist> unlike*
[01:49] <muzzle> I do know that. That's kinda all I know about Linux so far. I've used apt-get alot :D
[01:49] <Blejdfist> qt3-dev-tools perhaps
[01:49] <muzzle> It's heaven. I can just download everything I want. It's cool.
[01:50] <Blejdfist> for qt ofcourse
[01:50] <muzzle> I also now the line:
[01:50] <Blejdfist> for gtk libgtk2.0-dev
[01:50] <muzzle> gcc hello.c -o hello ;) hehe
[01:50] <muzzle> I want qt for now
[01:50] <muzzle> then the c lib. when I start school again next week.
[01:51] <muzzle> qt3-dev-tools worked I think
[01:51] <muzzle> it's downloading something, hehe
[01:51] <Blejdfist> install build-essential and qt3-dev-tools then :)
[01:51] <Blejdfist> and kdevelop to make it easier (it will take care of makefiles etc)
[01:51] <muzzle> ok
[01:52] <muzzle> and then after that, how do I compile?
[01:52] <muzzle> juts gcc again?
[01:52] <Blejdfist> in kdevelop you use the Build-menu
[01:52] <muzzle> oh ok
[01:52] <Blejdfist> first "Run automake & friends" :)
[01:52] <muzzle> it's an IDE
[01:52] <muzzle> I get it know
[01:52] <Blejdfist> then build project
[01:52] <Blejdfist> :)
[01:52] <muzzle> :D
[01:53] <Blejdfist> it's kinda tricky to make Makefiles by yourself for QT
[01:53] <muzzle> I kinda liked the command line thing though :D
[01:53] <muzzle> oh ok
[01:53] <Blejdfist> so i recommend you go with an IDE in the beginning
[01:53] <muzzle> yes
[01:53] <muzzle> I would have to use QMAKE to make else?
[01:53] <muzzle> I think I saw that somewhere
[01:53] <Blejdfist> dunno.. kinda new to QT as i said earlier :)
[01:53] <muzzle> yea ok
[01:53] <Blejdfist> but after kdevelop have done the makefiles you can use the commandline
[01:54] <Blejdfist> just type "make"
[01:54] <muzzle> ehm ok
[01:54] <Blejdfist> but you must add new files etc from the IDE
[01:54] <muzzle> yes yes
[01:54] <Blejdfist> and run automake & friends again to generate new makefiles
[01:58] <muzzle> I can't find the kdevelop
[02:01] <Blejdfist> what do you mean?
[02:02] <muzzle> Isn't it something I have to download also?
[02:02] <muzzle> I have t3-dev-tools now
[02:02] <muzzle> but I need the kdevelop
[02:02] <Blejdfist> it's in apt :)
[02:03] <muzzle> yes
[02:03] <muzzle> and I can't find it
[02:03] <muzzle> I'll try again
[02:03] <Blejdfist> ah it's in universe
[02:03] <Blejdfist> have you added the universe repository?
[02:03] <C-O-L-T> does exist any other skin for open office
[02:03] <C-O-L-T> ?
[02:03] <muzzle> I have that enabled
[02:03] <muzzle> yes
[02:03] <Blejdfist> have you run apt-get update after you enabled it?
[02:04] <muzzle> ok found it
[02:04] <muzzle> there are more than just one
[02:04] <muzzle> kdevelop3 ?
[02:04] <Blejdfist> yup
[02:04] <Blejdfist> it will depend on the others that it needs
[02:04] <muzzle> what abour the data, dev and doc?
[02:05] <Blejdfist> dev is for creating plugins for kdevelop i think
[02:05] <muzzle> ok
[02:05] <Blejdfist> and doc is the documentation
[02:05] <muzzle> yea
[02:06] <muzzle> got it now I think
[02:06] <muzzle> How do I run it? hehe
[02:06] <Blejdfist> it's in the K-menu under development
[02:06] <Blejdfist> or you could just type kdevelop3 in a terminal :)
[02:07] <muzzle> I didn't install it before, weird
[02:07] <muzzle> it did download something
[02:07] <muzzle> but when I do sudo apt-get install kdevelop3 it's downloading
[02:07] <muzzle> It's weird it didn't from adept
[02:07] <muzzle> but anyways, I'm getting it now
[02:07] <muzzle> so programs installed doesn't make shortcuts in kubuntu like programs in windows?
[02:08] <Blejdfist> just like in Windows it depends on the program
[02:09] <Blejdfist> i never use the menu anyway :)
[02:09] <Blejdfist> it's faster to use katapult or a terminal
[02:09] <muzzle> and katapult is?
[02:09] <muzzle> :
[02:09] <muzzle> :)
[02:09] <Blejdfist> alt+space
[02:09] <Blejdfist> and then you type what  you want to start :)
[02:10] <muzzle> cool
[02:10] <muzzle> there is alt+F2 also
[02:11] <Blejdfist> yep.. to run any command yes
[02:11] <Blejdfist> but katapult (as far as i know) takes stuff from the K-menu. And by the name they have there
[02:11] <muzzle> Thanks for the help. I have to leave for a while. I can't wait to try QT ;)
[02:11] <muzzle> ok
[02:11] <Blejdfist> np :)
[02:25] <Massacration> hi everyone
[02:25] <Hobbsee> hi
[02:25] <Massacration> can anybody help me with the cups?
[02:26] <Massacration> it keeps prompting me for a adm password
[02:26] <Massacration> I've just installed it
[02:26] <Massacration> and I haven't defined any psw before
[02:27] <Massacration> which password should I use?
[02:27] <Massacration> ?
[02:29] <Massacration> can anybody help me?
[02:31] <howcomes> I'm trying to remove xorg-driver-fglrx and its not letting me
[02:31] <howcomes> can anyone help? its complaining about some 'divesion libGL.so.1.2
[02:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:37] <howcomes> hiya
[02:59] <howcomes> Can anyone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=689874&postcount=284
[03:00] <Ace2005> Hi
[03:01] <Ace2005> Can anyone help me set up internet connection sharing between 2 computer, connected via a crossover cable?
[03:03] <praotec> Hallo!!
[03:08] <Tainted-Time> How do I install Fluxbox on Kubuntu?
[03:10] <Tainted-Time> Anyone?
[03:13] <`Nomad> sudo apt-get install fluxbox  ?
[03:14] <Tainted-Time> ok its installed.
[03:14] <Tainted-Time> How do I get it running?
[03:15] <`Nomad> It's a different windows manager?
[03:15] <`Nomad> man fluxbox might be a start
[03:16] <`Nomad> You may want to read this: http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=123157
[03:16] <`Nomad> as to what to expect running it for the first time..  I'm just googling all of this by the way, I know shit!
[03:17] <`Nomad> read the FAQ on Kubuntu, it's probably all there
[03:18] <`Nomad> and sometimes the bot can help..
[03:18] <`Nomad> !fluxbox
[03:18] <ubotu> somebody said fluxbox was a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[03:18] <`Nomad> there you go..
[03:18] <`Nomad> Good day, I'm off to breakfast
[03:25] <praotec> Hi!! I have any question about compilation scripts! When I launch ./configure in different source I obtain error massage. *** configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH .... (sorry my bad english ;) Can anyone help me?
[03:33] <N17R0> Hi I just installed Ubuntu, and did a update with synaptic, but after I reboot, I only see a black screen and in the upper left corner I see this: GRUB_
[03:34] <N17R0> and nothing happens, how come?
[03:38] <dark_suic> praotec, it may be that you need a C compiler for it.. u have it??? and u sure u need to configure it and it isn't in apt?
[03:39] <howcomes> I really need to get this fixed! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=689874&postcount=284 - attempting to apt-get remove outside of KDE didnt work either.
[03:42] <eidolon> hi can someone share their sources.list file for working with Dapper?  I'm trying us.archive.ubuntu.org dapper/main, and i'm getting 404 errors.
[03:42] <eidolon> have been for almost a week :(
[03:42] <praotec> I have any compiller installed but I dont know, which of "gcc, gcc4.0 ... " is right! I have default installed gcc4.0..
[03:44] <praotec> I try install gcc instead version4.0 but it dont solve it..
[03:45] <eidolon> gcc --version?
[03:48] <praotec> gcc --version:   gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[03:53] <praotec> I have installed gcc AND gcc4.0 and problem is now: ** checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
[03:55] <praotec> and then: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:58] <praotec> I think the problem is in setting of compiler, but I have not how do it.. :((
[04:05] <LjL> praotec: try "sudo aptitude install build-essentials" just to be user
[04:05] <LjL> user=sure
[04:05] <praotec> Ok...
[04:06] <LjL> sorry that's "build-essential"
[04:10] <praotec> I have done it but problem is same like before :(
[04:10] <praotec> C compiler cannot create executable
[04:13] <LjL> what happens when you just type "gcc"?
[04:14] <praotec> gcc: no input files
[04:15] <LjL> create a "test.c" file, and type the following into it:
[04:15] <LjL> #include <stdio.h>
[04:15] <LjL> int main(void) {
[04:15] <LjL>   printf("This is a test.\n");
[04:15] <LjL> }
[04:15] <LjL> and then type "gcc -o testprogram test.c"
[04:17] <Blejdfist> you probably don't have a compiler installed
[04:17] <Blejdfist> apt-get install build-essential
[04:18] <LjL> Blejdfist: that's what i just told him ;)
[04:19] <praotec> test.c:1:18: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[04:19] <Blejdfist> ok then :)
[04:19] <LjL> uhm
[04:19] <eidolon>  build-essentials should install the headers.
[04:20] <LjL> indeed it should
[04:20] <LjL> praotec: try "apt-cache policy build-essential"
[04:20] <LjL> what does it say under "installed:"?
[04:20] <test> where do I need to install video codecs so that kaffeine will see them ?
[04:20] <tucoz> Hi, I wonder how I install flash-player for konqueror
[04:20] <trispace> test: /usr/lib/win32
[04:21] <trispace> test: if you're using xine
[04:21] <trispace> tucoz: just install it and add the directory to the plugin path (if necessary)
[04:21] <test> trispace: I try using kaffeine
[04:22] <praotec> hm.. This is strange.. It say: "Installed: NONE"
[04:22] <test> trispace: I tried /usr/lib/win32 and it doesnt work
[04:22] <trispace> test: yeah, but kaffeine uses (or can use) the xine library to play videos
[04:22] <test> trispace: ah ok
[04:22] <tucoz> trispace: apt-get or installing it to a local dir with macromedias flash-player?
[04:22] <test> trispace: it uses gstreamer, let me install xine
[04:23] <trispace> tucoz: i've installed it with macromedias installer
[04:23] <trispace> test: i had no luck with gstreamer so i switched to the xine libs - but it depends on what you want to do
[04:24] <tucoz> trispace: ok, thanks. I was curious, because the package flashplugin-nonfree in the reps states it is usefull for mozilla browser variants
[04:24] <trispace> tucoz: it doesn't matter
[04:24] <tucoz> not mentioning konqueror.
[04:24] <tucoz> ok, thanks
[04:25] <trispace> tucoz: as far as i know konqueror is able to use any mozilla-plugin
[04:25] <tucoz> trispace: ok good. It's just that some (very few) flash-based pages freezes my firefox. I thought I try it with konqueror as well.
[04:26] <trispace> tucoz: hmm, ok. good luck
[04:29] <tucoz> Nah, that page is not working at all. Probably bad flash-programming. Anyway, thanks for the help.
[04:29] <trispace> tucoz: you're welcome
[04:37] <praotec> LjL: SUPER! The problem is out.. I installed build-essential from apt Package Manager and now it function.. I am gawk.. Thank you very very much :))
[04:40] <_malte> the kdevelop packages for kubuntu, from kdevelop.org, depend on kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.3-1) which doesn't exist in breezy. does anyone know how to get this / circumvent the problem?
[04:42] <_malte> oops
[04:42] <_malte> anyway... do i need to compile kdevelop myself or something like that?
[04:43] <visik7> kdevelop.org proviede debs for ubuntu or debian ?
[04:43] <_malte> yeah
[04:43] <dark_suic> kdevelop packages are on the repos
[04:43] <visik7> it's a question that you cannot replay with a "yeah"
[04:43] <_malte> visik7: i'm sorry, then i don't understand your question.. what do you mean?
[04:43] <dark_suic> the package is named kdevelop3
[04:43] <dark_suic> you just can install directly from the repositories
[04:44] <_malte> dark_suic: yes, but it's 3.2.3 i think
[04:44] <_malte> i'd like 3.3
[04:44] <visik7> why ?
[04:44] <visik7> what's the big difference from 3.2 to 3.3 ?
[04:44] <trispace> _malte: well, then you probably need to compile it for yourself, or try google to find some prebuild debs
[04:44] <_malte> visik7: at least some bug fixes
[04:45] <_malte> and more support for qt4 i think
[04:45] <_malte> trispace: ok, thanks
[04:45] <dark_suic> $ apt-cache show kdevelop3 | grep Version
[04:45] <dark_suic> Version: 4:3.3.1-0ubuntu0breezy1
[04:45] <dark_suic> malte
[04:45] <dark_suic> that's it
[04:45] <dark_suic> 3.3.1 in the repos :P
[04:46] <_malte> uhm
[04:46] <dark_suic> at least in mine :P
[04:46] <_malte> not here. what sources are you using?
[04:46] <dark_suic> i have slightly different repos :P
[04:46] <_malte> and i don't think 3.3.1 is stable :)
[04:47] <dark_suic> well, i'm not in dapper, but you can see it's breezy ;)
[04:47] <visik7> I've 3.3 in my repo
[04:47] <dark_suic> and i don't have any kdevelop specially made repo
[04:47] <visik7> dark_suic: 3.3.1 ? I've 3.3.0 can you do an apt-cache policy kdevelop3 ?
[04:47] <_malte> visik7: but can you install 3.3.0?
[04:48] <visik7> yes
[04:48] <_malte> from which rep is it?
[04:48] <visik7> it's in kde3.5 repo
[04:48] <_malte> oh
[04:48] <trispace> _malte: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[04:48] <dark_suic> still 331
[04:48] <dark_suic> :P
[04:48] <dark_suic> well
[04:48] <_malte> thanks trispace
[04:48] <dark_suic> i have the kde351 repositorie
[04:48] <dark_suic> that may be it :P
[04:48] <visik7> dark_suic: 3.5.1 ?
[04:48] <dark_suic> if you add a 1 after kde35 you'll get 3.5.1 ;)
[04:48] <visik7> give to me :)
[04:49] <dark_suic> yeah
[04:49] <trispace> _malte: with this source you get 3.3.0
[04:49] <visik7> rulez
[04:49] <dark_suic> you can go to http://kubuntu.org/packages
[04:49] <dark_suic> and see that the folder is there
[04:49] <dark_suic> not released officialy though, so probably some things will be missing
[04:49] <dark_suic> but i have no problem for the moment
[04:49] <_malte> is 3.5 usabel?
[04:49] <_malte> usable*
[04:49] <trispace> _malte: yeah, it is
[04:49] <dark_suic> 3.5 is for sure
[04:50] <_malte> fairly stable? :)
[04:50] <trispace> _malte: i don't have any problems with it
[04:50] <_malte> what's new in 3.5 then?
[04:50] <dark_suic> lots of things
[04:51] <trispace> _malte: maybe you should read the changelog
[04:51] <dark_suic> look into kde.org or kubuntu.org to see the changelog
[04:51] <_malte> yeah, i'm reading it right now
[04:51] <dark_suic> but _malte i assure you that kde3.5 is quite FASTER than 3.4.3
[04:51] <dark_suic> don't ask me why
[04:51] <dark_suic> but it runs better than 3.4.3
[04:52] <_malte> cool
[04:52] <_malte> but i don't really feel like living on the edge right now :)
[04:52] <dark_suic> well, i've had no problems with kde3.5
[04:52] <dark_suic> nor with 3.5.1
[04:53] <tecs> anyone knows how to make windows as my first selection in the grub menui?
[04:53] <trispace> tecs: just drop it as first entry
[04:53] <dark_suic> tecs, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as superuser with your favourite editor
[04:53] <dark_suic> (kdesu kwrite for example)
[04:53] <trispace> tecs: or adjust the "default" entry
[04:54] <dark_suic> and then you can either put the entire windows block as first selection
[04:54] <dark_suic> or change the default entry to the number the windows entry is (remember that it starts in 0, not 1)
[04:56] <_malte> ok, i'll do a dist-upgrade with 3.5 now then
[04:56] <_malte> has anyone done that today btw?
[04:56] <tecs> why cant i edit it it says read only
[04:56] <tecs> using gedit
[04:57] <dark_suic> not today, but yes about 3 weeks ago
[04:57] <dark_suic> :P
[04:57] <_malte> :o
[04:57] <dark_suic> tecs, before you need to edit it as root
[04:57] <dark_suic> are you in gnome or kde?
[04:57] <_malte> i just wanted to know if something broke today, but i guess i'll find out
[04:57] <dark_suic> :P
[04:58] <tecs> gnome
[04:58] <tecs> i right click it no edit as root option
[04:58] <dark_suic> there was a bug in konqueror 3.5.0, but it was solved about 5 days after it's release :P
[04:58] <dark_suic> tecs, then run this
[04:58] <dark_suic> gksudo gedit(i think is like that)
[04:59] <dark_suic> and then open it form the editor
[04:59] <tid-wave> hello what mirror should i use for flight dapper packages ?
[04:59] <tid-wave> the one from my country doesn't work
[04:59] <dark_suic> then try another country
[04:59] <tecs> a bun ch of warning came up int he terminal
[05:01] <tecs> got it. hope its ok, anyways  if i install easyubuntu on gnome and decided to install kde desktop will easyubuntus effects still be applicable?
[05:02] <dark_suic> don't know a thing about easyubuntu
[05:03] <tecs> ok, here is another one, well sorry i am a real noob. how do i make a folder accessible both read and write by other users?
[05:03] <trispace> tecs: chmod o+rw
[05:03] <trollig> tecs: no, don't just follow a comman like that.
[05:04] <tecs> do i need to sudo that?
[05:04] <trollig> tecs: you'll need to understand what you're doin
[05:04] <trispace> tecs: chmod o+rw foldername
[05:04] <trispace> tecs: yes, its wise to read something about Unix file permissions first
[05:04] <trollig> trispace: yes of course that's correct but the next one'll say rm -rf / or so
[05:04] <tecs> yes, im the only one using this comp, in this user all my media is in the home folder, but when i use the other user account i cant accesss my media
[05:05] <trollig> and he'll type it
[05:05] <trollig> and he'll use sudo
[05:05] <tecs> rm is remove right? why will i do that?
[05:06] <trispace> trollig: yes, i know what you mean. But he asked a question and my answer was the solution to his question. I mean, first it asked about changing the grub menu, its also very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing
[05:06] <trollig> tecs: go through all that http://www.debian.de/doc/user-manuals#usersguide
[05:07] <trispace> s/it asked/he asked/
[05:07] <tecs> honestly i appreciate it when you guys teach noobs the essentials...but i mean...to do such a small thing a newbie needs to go under or over the learning curve. but all i want is to do a simple thing...jsut an opinion.
[05:08] <LjL> tecs: well, if you asked me about something, and i told you to "`echo "/ f- r- mr" | rev", would you do it? :)
[05:08] <LjL> (don't)
[05:08] <visik7> ok 3.5.1 upgrade successfully a part from a dep problem
[05:08] <LjL> (it's got a syntax error anyway, just to be sure ;)
[05:09] <tecs> well no, primarily because ive been reading for about a month now. and im kinda frustrated really. honestly. that my system is still not yet up and running. i mean its working but its not totally working.
[05:09] <trispace> tecs: well i think that most of the people here want to tell newbies the right way to do something - and yeah - sometimes it's more complicated to do it properly
[05:09] <tecs> so many components still down, and it takes me a week of trial and error to make one thing work i mean its really too much for a fresh linux user.
[05:09] <LjL> tecs: i don't have my system "totally working" as i want it either, not nearly, and i don't think i'll have it in such a state for the next year
[05:10] <tecs> i mean i want to amke the "switch " but time and time again it seems like without the expertice it is really impossible not unless i quit my job and study linux fulltime
[05:10] <LjL> again, i think for your purposes the best thing to do would be to assign user2 to user1's group. but i'm really not too sure this is a good idea either
[05:11] <LjL> i would do "sudo adduser user2 user1", and then "newgrp user1" when i am user2 and want to access user1's dir
[05:11] <trispace> tecs: you're right. Configuring a Linux system properly takes time
[05:13] <LjL> at that point, you could just "chmod -R g+rwx /home/user1" to access all files. although you should really not just activate all group permissions, but *copy* owner permissions to group permissions
[05:13] <LjL> but i don't know how to do that off hand
[05:14] <tecs> well, i think ive asked this before but i just cant remember the exact code... its like chmod 777 not sure but it really worked
[05:14] <SpentCasing> how would i connect to an irc server using open ssl and konversation?
[05:14] <LjL> why do you insist with all those numbers? chmod has a handy alphabetic syntax for the flags
[05:14] <tecs> i jsut had my again isntall because after applying easy kubuntu this morning my pc wont boot anymore and is locked isnide the terminal, well being a not at all good at the terminal i had no other choice but to reinstall.
[05:15] <LjL> anyway, 777 won't really copy anything to anything, it'll just make everything world-whateverable
[05:15] <trispace> SpentCasing: mark the SSL checkbox in the server edit dialogbox
[05:15] <tecs> yes. thats what i want to do
[05:15] <SpentCasing> k cool thanks
[05:15] <LjL> yeah, and that's what you probably should *NOT* do
[05:15] <tecs> i dont want to copy i jsut want my folder accessible to my other account.
[05:15] <LjL> but if you really want to, then i don't see why "chmod -R a+rwx /home/user" shouldn't do it
[05:16] <tecs> i eman i dont understand it....its me alone using this pc why cant i use that?
[05:16] <JohnFlux> SpentCasing: btw, our next konversation release is on tuesday
[05:16] <LjL> tecs: then following your reasoning, why don't you simply stay root all the time?
[05:16] <SpentCasing> cool, thanks for the heads up, i love conversation
[05:17] <JohnFlux> SpentCasing: we are hoping to get it in the next release of kubuntu, but might be too late
[05:17] <SpentCasing> lol, err konversation
[05:17] <SpentCasing> the dapper release?
[05:17] <tecs> ok then
[05:17] <LjL> tecs: anyway, what i was telling you was not to *copy files*, but to *copy the permissions*, so that you could precisely do what you wanted, i.e. access user1's files from user2
[05:18] <LjL> but if you insist that you want to do that by doing everything world writable, then again, feel free to "chmod -R a+rwx /home/user"
[05:18] <malte> 3.5 won't start :(
[05:18] <trispace> JohnFlux: is there a way to display whois information directly in the user context menu?
[05:18] <LjL> just don't be too suprised if you someday install an FTP server, a Samba server or something, and somebody reads and deletes your home dir ;)
[05:18] <malte> kde 3.5 that is. when i login through kdm nothing i get a blank screen and then kdm returns
[05:18] <malte> -nothing
[05:19] <malte> kdm.log says "> Error: Can't find file "sv" for symbols include"
[05:19] <tecs> whats 128mb in kB?
[05:20] <malte> that's for xkbcomp, and the log also states that errors from xkbcomp shouldn't be fatal to the x server
[05:20] <visik7> how can I report a bug for kde351 packages on kubuntu.org ?
[05:20] <visik7> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[05:20] <visik7> sorry
[05:20] <dark_suic> u did apt-get update && upgrade?
[05:20] <trispace> tecs: what do you mean by "mb" and "kB" ?
[05:20] <malte> dark_suic: yeah
[05:21] <dark_suic> well, it sounds kinda weird to me..
[05:21] <dark_suic> i updated without any problem...
[05:21] <howcomes> http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2149223/mpaa-accused-piracy
[05:21] <dark_suic> u tried again?
[05:21] <dark_suic> maybe a package was left in the way
[05:21] <malte> dark_suic: no, all packages was upgraded :/
[05:21] <dark_suic> try with apt-get upgrade (and not dist-upgrade)
[05:21] <tecs> eheh got it... configuring my ati card using easyubuntu
[05:21] <dark_suic> :(
[05:22] <visik7> howcomes: quite old article
[05:22] <malte> i'm trying 351 now instead
[05:22] <tecs> wait is kB the same with KB?
[05:23] <LjL> tecs: yes, except that KB is wrong technically
[05:24] <tecs> icic thats why its in small k here in linux
[05:24] <LjL> tecs: on the other hand, kb is different, and usually means "kilobit", even though "kbit" would probably be a better choice
[05:25] <Tainted-Time> Can anyone recommend a good window manager?
[05:25] <tid-wave> kwin ? :)
[05:25] <LjL> tecs: and note that "kB" sometimes means 1000 bytes, and sometimes 1024 bytes, usually the latter except in telecommunications
[05:25] <Tainted-Time> kwin?
[05:25] <dark_suic> Tainted-Time, you mean like kde or like kdm?
[05:26] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: Yeah like that.
[05:26] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: But simpler...
[05:26] <tid-wave> Tainted-Time KDE is just fine
[05:26] <dark_suic> simpler than kdm or than kde?
[05:26] <tid-wave> you can simplify it :)
[05:26] <LjL> tecs: so 128 MB is usually 131072 kB
[05:26] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: What's the difference?
[05:26] <Tainted-Time> tid-wave: Oh?
[05:26] <Tainted-Time> I guess I am just looking for something awesome looking. :D
[05:26] <tid-wave> Tainted-Time kdm is a display manager... that thing that you use for logging in
[05:27] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: Still.
[05:27] <dark_suic> kdm is the login screen, kde is the desktop environment (taskbar, desktop, etc)
[05:27] <tid-wave> Tainted-Time KDE is the best desktop environment for linux
[05:27] <Tainted-Time> Oh. I think I am looking for a Desktop Environment thing.
[05:27] <LjL> tid-wave: i suppose you shouldn't make that kind of statements
[05:27] <dark_suic> then kde is your friend :P
[05:27] <LjL> KDE is a very widely used desktop environment on Linux, as is Gnome
[05:27] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: But how can I change it?
[05:28] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: I want it more customized than Themes...
[05:28] <Tainted-Time> dark_suic: And simpler...Its hard to explain.
[05:28] <tid-wave> simple ? fluxbox ...
[05:29] <Tainted-Time> tid-wave: Tried it, I didn't like it much....unless you can recommend a good theme.
[05:29] <dark_suic> Tainted-Time, you just can edit what you like separately
[05:29] <LjL> Tainted-Time: have you tried gnome?
[05:29] <dark_suic> without being a single theme
[05:29] <Tainted-Time> LjL: yeah.
[05:29] <dark_suic> you can make your own theme
[05:29] <tid-wave> Tainted-Time www.enlightenment.org
[05:29] <LjL> Tainted-Time: have you tried window maker?
[05:29] <Tainted-Time> LjL: Nope.
[05:29] <dark_suic> if you want anything simple try icewm, fluxbox or anything like that
[05:29] <tecs> well, how do i know if my 3d accelerator is working?
[05:29] <tid-wave> window maker is cool
[05:29] <LjL> Tainted-Time: give it a chance, i quite liked it
[05:29] <tid-wave> tecs glxinfo | grep direct
[05:29] <Tainted-Time> www.enlightenment.org
[05:29] <Tainted-Time> Doesnt work
[05:30] <Tainted-Time> Where can I find window maker?
[05:30] <LjL> Tainted-Time: though i use KDE now. i don't see much point in using a "simple" window manager / desktop environment, when at the end of the day i'll mostly be using KDE and/or Gnome applications
[05:30] <LjL> Tainted-Time: "sudo aptitude install wmaker"
[05:30] <tecs> so if direct rendering is :no that means it isnt working?
[05:32] <Tainted-Time> LjL: Well do you have anything customized? A theme? Different applets? I find this "boring"...thats not the right word. I feel uncomfortable..lol
[05:32] <Tainted-Time> I don't know how to explain what I mean.
[05:32] <LjL> Tainted-Time: you're talking about kde or wmaker?
[05:32] <Tainted-Time> Both
[05:32] <LjL> Tainted-Time: i can show you a screenshot of my desktop, but i'm afraid i have rather "boring" preferences ;)
[05:33] <tid-wave> Tainted-Time http://www.get-e.org/
[05:34] <malte> 3.5.1 seems to work however
[05:35] <GameOver69> hey guys anyone know where i cain download extensions and plugins for hte konquerer browser?
[05:35] <malte> and it really is faster. especially at startup
[05:37] <Tainted-Time> Oh yeah...
[05:37] <tecs> is there an existing script to detect printers? because the add printer wizard cant make my printer work
[05:37] <LjL> Tainted-Time: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i7777 <- my boring desktop
[05:37] <Tainted-Time> Is there a way to make Kubuntu bootup faster?
[05:38] <LjL> Tainted-Time: you could avoid booting it in the first place, by making use of hibernation aka software-suspend
[05:38] <LjL> Tainted-Time: unfortunately, that doesn't work very well yet, or at all, depending on your hardware, and it's not nearly as fast as it could be (or as it is on Windows)
[05:39] <tecs> thanks for the help guys good night:)
[05:39] <Tainted-Time> WOW!
[05:39] <Tainted-Time> Im diggin' Enlightenment.
[05:42] <howcomes> http://www.bash.org/?608100
[05:42] <LjL> Tainted-Time: have you browsed around www.kde-look.org?
[05:42] <Tainted-Time> Yeah.
[05:43] <Tainted-Time> The only good thing I found was YaKuake  or w/e its called.
[05:43] <Tainted-Time> I've been using that.
[05:43] <LjL> yakuake is nice yeah
[05:43] <LjL> but i was thinking more about themes and styles for you
[05:43] <Tainted-Time> Yeah.
[05:43] <LjL> by the way, why is yakuake on kde-look? it's an app, not a theme
[05:44] <Tainted-Time> They have acouple of apps on there.
[05:44] <LjL> "kde improvements", right
[05:44] <LjL> by the way you should install yakuake using "sudo aptitude install yakuake", not by getting it from kde-look
[05:45] <muzzle> So I want GTK+ but there are like 200 things with GTK in adept. Linux is not easy :)
[05:45] <LjL> muzzle: uhm, why would you want to install *GTK+* by itself?
[05:45] <Tainted-Time> LjL: Why?
[05:45] <LjL> muzzle: if you want GTK, i suppose it's because you have an app that needs it, or not?
[05:45] <muzzle> no I need to make one
[05:46] <LjL> Tainted-Time: because when something is in the repositories, it's *waaaay* better to install it from there than compile it
[05:46] <LjL> and yakuake happens to be in the repositories...
[05:46] <LjL> and even when something is *not* in the repositories, it's a very good idea to take some special precautions installing it (like using checkinstall)
[05:47] <JER3My> hi
[05:47] <Tainted-Time> LjL: Are there any special things I can do with yakuake
[05:47] <callie> does anyone here have k750i mobile?
[05:47] <Tainted-Time> Can I have "true" transparency?
[05:47] <LjL> muzzle: i see, but then you need "-dev" packages, not just plain gtk+... isn't "libgtk2.0-dev" the one you'd want?
[05:47] <Tainted-Time> Not pseudo
[05:47] <callie> im wondering about synching
[05:47] <LjL> Tainted-Time: no
[05:48] <JER3My> i'm a newbee, but i have a problem with liquid weather
[05:48] <LjL> Tainted-Time: i don't think you can have "true" transparency anywhere in X, except by enabling things that are currently much better left disabled
[05:48] <_andrea> i need to play mp3's and mpeg videos....but the wiki instructions i found are for ubuntu...
[05:48] <muzzle> LjL:  it might be
[05:48] <callie> wassup JER3My ?
[05:48] <muzzle> I just have this page which says some different things I need
[05:48] <JER3My> liquid weather is transparent on my desktop
[05:48] <JER3My> (sorry for my english)
[05:48] <muzzle> Is gtk2 the same as gtk+ ?
[05:49] <callie> hmmm. certain elements of liquid weather should be transparent
[05:49] <callie> lemme check something JER3My
[05:49] <LjL> muzzle: i think "gtk+" is both 1 and 2... anyway, version 2 is the one that looks like most programs in current Gnome, while version 1 is the one that looks like, for instance, XMMS
[05:49] <LjL> muzzle: if the app you're trying to compile is recent, my bet is on gtk2
[05:50] <JER3My> when i do a right click, there are the options
[05:50] <LjL> muzzle: why don't you just run ./configure and see what it's missing?
[05:50] <Tainted-Time> Wow.
[05:51] <callie> which version of liquid weather are you using JER3My ?
[05:51] <Tainted-Time> I can't wait for E17 to be released.
[05:51] <JER3My> the last
[05:51] <callie> you sure?
[05:51] <muzzle> LiL > I'm totally new to linux. I just need some stuff for school.
[05:51] <LjL> muzzle: can you point me to the tarball of the application you're compiling?
[05:51] <JER3My> hum... yes
[05:52] <callie> different versions have different dependancies so you need to check you're using the right version of liquid weather with the right version superkaramba
[05:53] <callie> check the page on www.kde-look.org for info on dependancies
[05:53] <muzzle> LjL: I'm not compiling anything. I just need those lib. and stuff.
[05:53] <muzzle> LjL: http://www.cs.aau.dk/~madsen/Homepage/Teaching/Glade_F05/html/index-slide-gtk.html
[05:53] <callie> make sure you're using the right libaries JER3My
[05:53] <JER3My> i downloaded "the latest version of liquid weather ++ (9.2.1) ..." on the official website of liquid weather
[05:54] <GameOver69> hey guys anyone know where i cain download extensions and plugins for hte konquerer browser?
[05:54] <callie> and superkaramba JER3My ?
[05:54] <LjL> muzzle: well i think they're definitely thinking about gtk 2 there
[05:54] <muzzle> LjL: If you say so :D hehe
[05:54] <JER3My> moreover, i have installed superkaramba with apt-get install
[05:55] <JER3My> and also imagemagick
[05:55] <LjL> muzzle: well there is no reason why you should use an old, terribly obsolete version like gtk 1
[05:55] <muzzle> ofcourse not
[05:55] <muzzle> LjL: so what do I write to download what? hehe
[05:55] <callie> JER3My, and PYQT?
[05:55] <LjL> muzzle: my bet is still on "sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev"
[05:55] <JER3My> i think that it is the problem
[05:55] <muzzle> ok
[05:56] <JER3My> when i write "apt-get install pyqt" in Konsole there isn't nothing
[05:56] <callie> lemme get the exact filename JER3My
[05:56] <muzzle> downloading ;)
[05:56] <JER3My> what is lemme
[05:56] <JER3My> ?
[05:56] <LjL> JER3My: there is no "pyqt", but there is a pyqt-tools as well as a python-qt-dev and more
[05:56] <muzzle> LjL: But I guess I need more than just that? GIMP? GNU?
[05:57] <muzzle> LjL: And Glade?
[05:57] <LjL> muzzle: GNU simply means a GNU/Linux operating system, such as Ubuntu
[05:57] <JER3My> i have install "pyqt-tools"
[05:57] <LjL> muzzle: The GIMP is a graphics editor. you can install it with "sudo aptitude install gimp"
[05:58] <callie> JER3My, and you're tried restarting X?
[05:58] <JER3My> no
[05:58] <LjL> muzzle: Glade is a visual user interface editor, a bit like what you have in Visual C for example, and you can install it with "sudo aptitude install glade-2"
[05:58] <muzzle> LjL: THANKS :D
[05:58] <JER3My> how i can do this ?
[05:58] <muzzle> LjL: THANKS :D
[05:58] <muzzle> hehe
[05:58] <LjL> muzzle: as well as "sudo aptitude install glade", but that will let you create gtk-1 interfaces, not gtk-2
[05:59] <callie> CTR+ALT+BACKSPACE [not delete]  JER3My
[05:59] <LjL> muzzle: you could also type "apt-cache show anjuta". have a look at it, it could probably be handy
[05:59] <muzzle> LjL: I guess I need glade-2 then
[06:00] <muzzle> LjL: ok
[06:00] <muzzle> Wow they really don't like Denmark down there anymore.
[06:01] <Tainted-Time> Is there a way to download and install of these at one time, eet, evas, ecore, embryo, and edje?
[06:03] <dark_suic> are they in the repositories, Tainted-Time ?
[06:03] <Tainted-Time> Not sure
[06:03] <dark_suic> if they are, apt-get install eet evas ecore embryo edje
[06:03] <dark_suic> then try searching them :P
[06:03] <Tainted-Time> Lol.
[06:03] <Tainted-Time> How?
[06:03] <gamma> anyone get ndiswrapper-modules-1.8 installed on dapper? i'm getting this msg when trying to install "Package ndiswrapper-modules-1.8 is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[06:04] <dark_suic> well, they aren't in the repos :P
[06:04] <LjL> they're not in the reps
[06:04] <callie> back to my original question, anyone here sync their sony ericsson with Kontact? or know if its even possible?
[06:04] <LjL> i guess you'll have to compile them, whatever they are
[06:04] <gamma> well ndiswrapper-utils needs it
[06:04] <Tainted-Time> Dang.
[06:04] <gamma> D:
[06:05] <LjL> gamma: hold on i was talking to Tainted-Time :)
[06:05] <Tainted-Time> lol
[06:05] <LjL> have no idea about ndiswrapper, though i hear you do often need to compile it, and i guess it's far from easy
[06:05] <Tainted-Time> btrb
[06:05] <Tainted-Time> brb
[06:06] <gamma> is sourceforge.net down for anyone else?
[06:06] <LjL> gamma: times out apparently
[06:06] <callie> seems that way gamma
[06:07] <Tainted> Holy mother of hell.
[06:07] <Tainted> I absolutely love enlightenment.
[06:07] <Tainted> Who was is that suggested it?
[06:08] <callie> buddha?
[06:08] <Tainted> HAHHAHAHA
[06:08] <Tainted> That was good.
[06:10] <neoncode> is it possible to use any kind of on-the-fly enycripted filesystem with linux?
[06:12] <Pupeno_> neoncode: yes, I am doing it right now.
[06:13] <Pupeno_> neoncode: search for "linux encrypted file system" there are various howto's on line.
[06:15] <neoncode> Pupeno_: How strong is the enycription?
[06:17] <Pupeno_> neoncode: in my particular case it is said that some big agencies (or anyone with enough computing powerf) could do a dictionary attack and break it in a short time (month ? year ?), that's because I am using a passphrase as key, if you use a generated keys (it's on the howto's as well) it can be practically un-decrypteable (without the key).
[06:18] <neoncode> Pupeno_: What's the maximum size of encryption key I can use?
[06:18] <Pupeno_> neoncode: I don't know, I droped the idea of using a key, it was too complicated, but they can be big enough.
[06:19] <LjL> i'fd really like an on-the-fly *compressed* filesystem on the other hand
[06:21] <Pupeno_> LjL: ?
[06:21] <neoncode> LjL: Is an on-the-fly compressed and enycripted filesystem possible? plus won't that be harder to crack if you compress then enycript?
[06:21] <LjL> neoncode: of course it is possible, NTFS does both
[06:22] <LjL> neoncode: i don't know if it would be harder to crack, guess it wouldn't matter
[06:22] <neoncode> Because it'll make it harder for big brother to look if the decrypted data matches into files each time they try a key?
[06:22] <LjL> Pupeno_: well, though some people say it's not a good idea, i always used NTFS's compression feature a lot, and it always worked for me
[06:23] <neoncode> compressed files don't look like ordanary files apparently
[06:23] <neoncode> I thought I read that somewhere.... I dunno
[06:23] <LjL> neoncode: well they'd have to know what *is* in the file in any case, to be able to match... and then if they do, what's the problem with de-compressing before trying to match?
[06:23] <Pupeno_> neoncode: compressing it won't make it practially harder to de-crypt.
[06:23] <LjL> would get a bit slower perhaps, but that's all
[06:25] <neoncode> What do we think to google's cencorship then? Have they turned evil now?
[06:25] <Pupeno_> neoncode: and the linux way to encrypt a file system is creating a layer over your hd device (/dev/hda1 for example) and offering another device where you create the file system (/dev/mappings/home for example). If you can compress on /dev/hda1, you can compress on the other.
[06:25] <neoncode> Pupeno_: Oooo
[06:26] <Pupeno_> Here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/16179
[06:27] <tecs> hi, how do i make kde my default desktop
[06:27] <Pupeno_> tecs: default where ?
[06:27] <Pupeno_> kdm ?
[06:28] <neoncode> Pupeno_: Oooo, so your /home/ is mounted as a seprate file system that is enycripted.... Oooo
[06:28] <tecs> default display, because right now im still using gnome. i knw i can choose kde as desktop but i want it to be set to kde whenever i boot
[06:28] <LjL> i still prefer NTFS allowing to encrypt individual files...
[06:29] <Pupeno_> neoncode: yes, my setup is not the most secure one, it is meant to protect me and my contacts if my laptop is stolen. If a big goverment want the data, they'll find the closer path of puting a gun in my head.
[06:29] <neoncode> LjL: I thought linux had trouble writeing to NTFS
[06:29] <Pupeno_> LjL: I am not sure if you can encrypt individual files, but you can create loopback devices (encrypted folders).
[06:29] <LjL> neoncode: indeed i'm talking about Windows
[06:29] <Pupeno_> neoncode: yes, it has.
[06:30] <visik7> LjL: ntfs enc is flawfull
[06:30] <LjL> visik7: well i never actually *used* it (though i did use compression), no idea if it's flawed, but from a user's point of view it's very simple to use
[06:31] <visik7> LjL: and useless if u encrypt to be secure
[06:31] <LjL> i'd love if a linux filesystem had the same flexibility for compressing and encrypting files transparently (especially compressing for what i care)
[06:31] <visik7> LjL: reiser4 can do it if someone will write a plugin
[06:31] <visik7> (or maybe it's already written
[06:32] <LjL> visik7: don't think it is. i've read about that in many places -- actually, from what i gathered, the author(s) claimed to *have* such a plugin written -- but it always seemed to ended up as vaporware
[06:32] <neoncode> reiser4?
[06:32] <neoncode> !reiser4
[06:32] <ubotu> neoncode: I give up, what is it?
[06:33] <neoncode> oh well, worth a try
[06:33] <Pupeno_> http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html
[06:33] <arthur> hi
[06:33] <visik7> !reiserfs
[06:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, reiserfs is a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[06:33] <visik7> !reiserfs4
[06:33] <ubotu> visik7: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:34] <arthur> can you play real video files?
[06:35] <arthur> if i go to http://euronews.tv/ and click on one of those red buttons labeled "video", konqueror crashes
[06:36] <LjL> visik7: i know, but from what i have been able to understand, there isn't working compression even though the page appears to claim otherwise
[06:36] <LjL> visik7: in any case, i've mostly read that reiser4 is currently sort of dangerous to use
[06:37] <arthur> why?
[06:37] <visik7> I was never interested by this kind of feature
[06:38] <LjL> arthur: not sure, i'm saying this with far from first-hand experience, but when i read from multiple source that a filesystem makes me risk losing data, i have a tendency to avoid it =)
[06:39] <kkathman> LjL:  I currenty have reiser on my SUSE box and have never had a problem with it
[06:39] <arthur> is there any way to convert the filesystem to ext3?
[06:40] <kkathman> However, my breezy install is ext3
[06:40] <LjL> kkathman: reiser4?
[06:40] <LjL> arthur: to convert *what* filesystem?
[06:41] <kkathman> LjL  reiserfs
[06:41] <LjL> kkathman: i think the worse problems i read about were related to version 4
[06:41] <LjL> perhaps i should try running a small test reiser partition for a while
[06:42] <LjL> but the other thing that bothers me is that it's not in the mainstream kernel (afaik?)
[06:42] <kkathman> ahhh could be
[06:43] <kkathman> LjL:  I had no experience on reiser at all until I installed SUSE.  Apparently Fedora and SUSE both use this as their default.
[06:43] <arthur> LjL: reiser4 to ext3
[06:43] <LjL> arthur: don't think that's possible. i had researched the opposite a bit (i.e. ext3 to reiser), and i think i recall that i found no solution
[06:44] <kkathman> arthur: As for conversion, it can be done, but its not really a conversion, per se...and its kinda risky...you can check it out here:  http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jan/2093.html
[06:44] <kkathman> thats a SUSE link, but the principle is close I'd think
[06:44] <_tony> quick question
[06:45] <_tony> every time I try to install stuf with the terminal I get this error:
[06:45] <kkathman> Its really more of a backup, wipe repartition and restore kind of think
[06:46] <_tony> Erroers were encountered while processing: setiahome Ksetisaver E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:46] <_tony> errors*
[06:46] <_tony> how do I fix that?
[06:47] <kkathman> _tony  what are you using to install?
[06:47] <_tony> I am using Konsole trying to install some mplayer plugins for firefox
[06:47] <_tony> does it when installing other programs as well
[06:47] <_tony> like, most games from the repos
[06:47] <kkathman> _tony:  ok, so you are doing something like  sudo apt-get install <package>
[06:47] <_tony> yaeh
[06:47] <_tony> yeah*
[06:47] <LjL> kkathman: well, that just describes storing your files somewhere else, re-formatting, and then restoring ;)
[06:48] <kkathman> LjL  yes, see my comments above
[06:49] <kkathman> _tony:  that particular error is very odd
[06:49] <_tony> exactly why my friend sent me here instead of telling me what to do
[06:49] <shammy> Will ndiswrapper run on an x64 Breezy install?
[06:50] <kkathman> _tony what version of ubuntu/kubuntu are you running?
[06:50] <_tony> 5 I think
[06:50] <tristanmike> Hello, I have a quick question. Will K3B burn a bootable cd, like a live cd, and is there any special settings I need to know?
[06:51] <_tony> the ISO I downloaded said Kubuntu-5
[06:51] <kkathman> _tony: do you remember whether its 5.04  or   5.10 ?
[06:51] <_tony> all it said was kubuntu-5
[06:51] <_tony> didn't get specific
[06:51] <neoncode> uname?
[06:52] <neoncode> oh no wait sorry, that won't work..
[06:52] <_tony> is there a way I can check?
[06:53] <kkathman> _tony:  well Ksetisaver is like a replacement for KDE's normal screen saver, so whats weird is that Im not sure thats a standard install, or maybe your friend had you load it afterward?
[06:53] <tristanmike> I guess go to K->Help->Kubuntu Documents
[06:54] <_tony> all I did was install Kubuntu onto a blank HD and re-set the repos to allow me to install stuff
[06:54] <_tony> neoncode guided me through that part
[06:54] <neoncode> hi
[06:54] <_tony> then it just started being a dick about stuff suddenly
[06:55] <shammy> Is it nessasary to download Breezy if I alread have Hoary?
[06:55] <kkathman> perhaps neoncode knows about Ksetisaver then
[06:55] <neoncode> Never heard of it
[06:55] <neoncode> I didn't tell him to install it. I just told him how to enable universe/multiverse
[06:56] <_tony> thats all he did
[06:56] <kkathman> I suspect you have maybe a bum repository and have gotten a debian package in there thats not exactly compatible, but I dont know
[06:56] <_tony> and thats why I'm puzzled
[06:56] <kkathman> _tony  theres alot of stuf on Ksetisaver on Google, I just looked...but it doesnt seem to be a normal thing
[06:56] <neoncode> Did I screw up trying to help him?
[06:57] <_tony> I did download a screensaver and istalled it, so I'll check on that to see if it has anything to do with it
[06:57] <_tony> installed*
[06:57] <kkathman> _tony try this...   sudo apt-get remove ksetisaver
[06:57] <_tony> lemme open a terminal
[06:57] <kkathman> get rid of that and try your installs again see if that solves the prob
[06:58] <neoncode> is ksetisaver an alpha/beta app?
[06:58] <_tony> yay for lag!
[06:58] <kkathman> its not a normal app, he's installed that on his own or at someone's direction
[06:58] <kkathman> its in the repos tho
[06:59] <_tony> Errors were encountered while processing: setiahome
[06:59] <kkathman> its just a screen saver
[06:59] <neoncode> He's being saying that his linux is now lagging a lot. He thought it was spyware. Can you even get linux spyware?
[06:59] <_tony> EL sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:59] <_tony> e:*
[06:59] <basit> how would i install kubuntu on ubuntu dapper 3?
[06:59] <kkathman> neoncode: not that I know of
[06:59] <_tony> I can't type today
[06:59] <basit> do we hav a repository for that?
[06:59] <_tony> now its saying setiathome is giving me errors
[07:00] <_tony> it was that and ksetisaver
[07:00] <_tony> now its just setiathome
[07:00] <_tony> preventing the remvoal of ksetisaver apparently
[07:00] <kkathman> basit: same way as any update....  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:00] <neoncode> sudo apt-get remove setiathome?
[07:00] <kkathman> _tony yes... hmmm let me think a sec of some other way
[07:00] <basit> kkathman, it can't find that package
[07:00] <_tony> neoncode, if i can't remove one, then I probably can't remove the other
[07:01] <_tony> isn't that just common sense?
[07:01] <neoncode> Possibly... I dunno. Carn't you force unintall packages?
[07:01] <kkathman> basit  really?  hmmm you DO have your repos set to dapper?
[07:01] <basit> kkathman, yes
[07:03] <_tony> well, neoncode, it removed setiathome
[07:03] <kkathman> _tony the only other thing I can think of is to try dpkg -r  on the package but dont hold hopes out for it
[07:03] <kkathman> it DOES sound like thats a bug in ksetisaver tho and should be reported
[07:04] <neoncode> _tony: Good, now try to remove ksetisaver I guess?
[07:04] <_tony> trying that
[07:04] <_tony> says Package ksetisaver is not installed, so not removed
[07:04] <neoncode> I guess setiathome removed ksetisaver as well.?
[07:04] <kkathman> _tony  try this    dpkg -i | grep ksetisaver       see what it returns
[07:05] <basit> Hmm
[07:05] <kkathman> dpkg -l   I mean
[07:05] <kkathman> typo
[07:05] <basit> kkathman, can u give me your sources list?
[07:05] <_tony> one sec trying to run my original liine before i got my errors
[07:05] <kkathman> !sources
[07:05] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:06] <_tony> it installed
[07:06] <_tony> the mplayer plugin for firefox
[07:06] <kkathman> kewl
[07:06] <kkathman> _tony you might report that as a bug :)
[07:07] <_tony> gonna
[07:07] <neoncode> mozilla-mplayer plays .mov files right?
[07:07] <_tony> we'll find out in a few minutse
[07:07] <_tony> minutes*
[07:08] <_tony> how would I report that?
[07:10] <_tony> found it
[07:10] <`Nomad> Is nvu installation broken in Breezy?  Nothign ever seems to work with it
[07:10] <visik7> I've open office font too big not the document font but the menu font how can I reduce it ?
[07:10] <`Nomad> !nvu
[07:11] <ubotu> [nvu]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[07:18] <andrea> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27033
[07:18] <andrea> how can i make something like this work on my system?
[07:19] <andrea> i only managed to install new icon packs
[07:23] <mars> Hi Can someone give me link to sources list for breezy
[07:23] <kkathman> !sources
[07:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:24] <andrea> !theme
[07:25] <kkathman> hi andrea...were you having difficulties?
[07:25] <andrea> from where do i install new themes?
[07:26] <andrea> yes
[07:26] <mars> I have a question what is DApper?
[07:26] <andrea> i cant find where to install new themes
[07:26] <andrea> System Settings/Colors
[07:26] <andrea> *Appearance/Colors
[07:26] <kkathman> mars: dapper is the next release of ubuntu... its currently in development scheduled out in April
[07:26] <andrea> there the import button....but the file type is different from the types i downloaded from kde-look
[07:27] <kkathman> andrea yes some of the themes have to be compiled, others manipulated... on that theme page there is usually an instruction link for installation
[07:28] <andrea> oh i see
[07:30] <andrea> does a system update automatically update kde from 3.4 to 3.5?
[07:31] <kkathman> andrea no, you'll need to go here:  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[07:31] <kkathman> follow the directions on that page
[07:31] <andrea> kkathman: thanks
[07:31] <kkathman> np
[07:32] <callie> Hey kkathman
[07:33] <kkathman> hi callie!!  how are you?
[07:33] <callie> not so bad, you kkathman ?
[07:33] <neoncode> hey the Ctrl+Alt+Esc kill click thingy. Is that bascly just an instant kill for any app?
[07:33] <kkathman> im very well, thanx :)
[07:34] <callie> i just came into possession of a Palm III
[07:34] <kkathman> callie:  Nice! How do you like it?
[07:35] <callie> its pretty cool kkathman just looking into synching with my cell phone and then with my e mail contacts
[07:35] <kkathman> very good...totall connectivity, eh callie ?? hehe
[07:35] <callie> possibly
[07:36] <Traum> !configure x11
[07:36] <ubotu> Traum: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:36] <Traum> !x11
[07:36] <ubotu> [x11]  a protocol used by X servers and clients  X11 stands for the eleventh version of the X window system.
[07:36] <Traum> !xconf
[07:36] <ubotu> Traum: No idea
[07:36] <callie> !xorg.conf
[07:36] <ubotu> callie: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:36] <Traum> !xorg.conf
[07:36] <callie> lol
[07:36] <Traum> lol
[07:36] <Traum> thanks, callie
[07:36] <kkathman> Traum:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <Traum> ok, thanks for the hint
[07:37] <kkathman> I hope thats what you wanted?? hehe
[07:37] <callie> that command really needs shortening
[07:37] <Traum> this forum I find more helpful than the ubuntu -- why is that ?
[07:37] <callie> its kde way Traum
[07:37] <kkathman> There are good people in both..just could be the questions hehe
[07:38] <kkathman> lol
[07:38] <Traum> well, the Ubuntu feels like a big bar, with lots of noisy boasters
[07:38] <Traum> whereas the Kubuntu is more: how can we get nirvana, we all need it...
[07:38] <Traum> right?
[07:39] <kkathman> haha
[07:39] <andrea> why did Linus Torvalds say that people should stick to KDE?
[07:39] <kkathman> never quite heard it explained that way before :)
[07:39] <callie> i've always found the atmosphere in #ubuntu to be a little hostile
[07:39] <Traum> see, they even laugh politely :-)
[07:40] <Traum> Kurzes, militrisches Lachen:  haha
[07:40] <kkathman> andrea:  its very configurable I think is his main point, and desktop personalization is very important to acceptance
[07:40] <callie> i discovered that me and torvalds have a common link the other day
[07:40] <kkathman> callie:  reallY??? care to share?
[07:40] <callie> we where both users of the Sinclair QL ;)
[07:41] <callie> its the machine that lead him to developing the Linux kernal
[07:41] <kkathman> the old handheld Sinclair??
[07:41] <Traum> still using it? Callie?
[07:41] <callie> i have it at home
[07:41] <Traum> good for you
[07:41] <callie> its a  great computer for its time
[07:41] <kkathman> oh my... callie yer showing your years :)  I can remember putting one of those together :)
[07:41] <callie> still in the box with mauals
[07:41] <callie> *manuals
[07:42] <callie> kkathman, it was a hand me down from my brother
[07:42] <kkathman> possibly mine was a few years before that one tho
[07:42] <kkathman> callie: ahhhh ok I thought it must have been :)
[07:42] <_andrea> kkathman: I'm slowly learning linux, coming from a windows environment...and found KDE to be intuitively similar to Windows GUI
[07:42] <_andrea> kkathman: and thats a plus....because you get going quickly
[07:42] <callie> built in networking!
[07:42] <_andrea> i'd like the buttons to be a little smaller though...sometimes they're too large
[07:43] <kkathman> andred: Yes, very true, but you'll find that configuring KDE is much more robust and simpler than tweaking so many things in Windows :)
[07:43] <Traum> _andrea: KDE is a life preserver, isn't it?
[07:43] <_andrea> yes....Theming in windows is TOUGH
[07:43] <kkathman> oops..sorry _andrea that was for you...I misspelled your name
[07:43] <callie> and expensive sometimes _andrea
[07:43] <_andrea> yes u need to buy themeing software
[07:43] <_andrea> just for the sake of a theme
[07:44] <callie> exactly
[07:44] <kkathman> _andrea:  If you really want to get to know KDE, spend the day playing around in system settings, appearance and themes
[07:44] <callie> ridiculous
[07:44] <_andrea> kkathman: is there a way to reduce the size of buttons?
[07:44] <callie> it took me a while to get my KDE desktop looking how i want, but now im very happy
[07:44] <_andrea> that's my only worry for now
[07:44] <kkathman> _andrea:  which buttons?
[07:44] <kkathman> like the icons on the screen?
[07:44] <callie> Superkaramba is so perdy!
[07:45] <callie> !superkaramba
[07:45] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[07:45] <_andrea> kkathman: System Settings/Colors...."Save Scheme" button....
[07:45] <_andrea> those kind of buttons
[07:45] <_adam_> Hwllo, as a Kubuntu newbee, am I in the right place here to ask questions?
[07:46] <kkathman> _andrea:  I think the size, is based on that panel, so Im not sure you can change it much, but the icons can be changed
[07:46] <callie> go ahead _adam_
[07:46] <kkathman> _adam_:  please ask away :)
[07:46] <kkathman> _andrea:  you can change the style of the buttons
[07:46] <_adam_> thanks, I installed from Adept achilles, but I don't find it on my computer now...
[07:46] <_andrea> kkathman: how?
[07:47] <_andrea> ok found :)
[07:47] <kkathman> _andrea:  system settings, appearance, style
[07:48] <_adam_> it doesn't appear in the All application list
[07:48] <kkathman> _adam_:  achilles is an application?
[07:48] <callie> i wish that window decoration installing was a little more straight forward
[07:49] <kkathman> _adam_:  some applications install on the menu, others do not.  Almost all apps will install to /usr/bin  though and you can enter them manually on the K-menu using its menu editor (right click on the K menu and choose menu editor)
[07:50] <_adam_> ok, let me see!
[07:51] <_andrea> kkathman: I'm reading a  Computer Science degree at my University (malta)....but things are very windows-based here...and it's tough to find people who can show you what linux is all about...but i figured that its worthwile exploring it for myself. I wish to make it my development platform
[07:51] <_andrea> kkathman: i've read in magazines that it's a "dream world" for development
[07:52] <kkathman> _andrea:  I applaud your curious nature.  You'll find some great journeys here in Linux :)
[07:52] <_adam_> Thanks a lot!
[07:52] <kkathman> _andrea:  What is really nice, is that its much less expensive to set up a quality development environment in LInux than Windows
[07:53] <callie> _adam_, some apps dont appear until you restart kde so you may want to try that too
[07:53] <_andrea> kkathman: let's say i want to write a simple pascal program....in windows i would need an IDE like Dev-Pascal
[07:53] <JohnFlux> kkathman: er, most students have friends with copies ;)  cost isn't a good reason
[07:53] <_andrea> what would be the steps to follow on a Linux box?
[07:53] <JohnFlux> _andrea: well borland actually have delphi ide for linux
[07:53] <kkathman> _andrea:  For instance, in Windows to work, say on a program or a web application, you'd need an IDE (that costs money) and other tools like say Dreamweaver or Visual Studio (hundreds if not thousands of dollars)
[07:54] <_andrea> i use java :D
[07:54] <JohnFlux> _andrea: c++ version too.  and their widgets are lgpl
[07:54] <ccc_> callie: no need to restart kde, however i've found sometimes it doesn't update the k menu unless you enter the menu editor and save it.
[07:54] <kkathman> JohnFlux:  well, I tend to speak in terms of being legal, too.
[07:55] <callie> ccc_, in my experiences restarting kde has worked, maybe it just refreshes a cache or something
[07:55] <_andrea> i've had some ppl tell me that you need an IDE...and some other compiling tools.....(that's my main worry) since i'm very green on what these "tools" are
[07:55] <kkathman> _andrea:  you'll find those in Linux rather easily I think
[07:56] <kkathman> _andrea:  for instance, Quanta+  is an excellent IDE for web development (somewhat comparable to Dreamweaver)
[07:57] <_andrea> aha....the name isnt new!
[07:57] <kkathman> Kdevelop is a good all-purpose coding IDE.
[07:57] <Tm_T> Kate is also good
[07:57] <_andrea> Kdevelop
[07:57] <kkathman> Yes Kate is excellent in fact
[07:57] <_andrea> can i apt-get it?
[07:58] <kkathman> Kate comes standard in the KDE environment,  Quanta+ and Kdevelop you have to install
[07:58] <kkathman> Tm_T:  o/
[07:58] <_andrea> Kate looks like a text editor
[07:58] <Tm_T> it is
[07:58] <Tm_T> with syntax hilighting
[07:58] <kkathman> _andrea:  it does, but its much more...try opening an html page in it, or an XML page...it has syntax highlighting and line numbers...etc
[07:59] <kkathman> Tm_T:  do you work with docbooks any?  I.e. documentation
[07:59] <_andrea> kkathman:  how do i tell Kate i'm writing in Delphi?
[07:59] <JohnFlux> _andrea: it guesses
[07:59] <kkathman> ya exactly
[07:59] <JohnFlux> but kate is only a syntax highlighted
[07:59] <kkathman> It might not know all environements, but its pretty good at guessing
[08:00] <_andrea> Sources options?
[08:00] <JohnFlux> most windows coders don't really understand how coders develop without an ide
[08:00] <JohnFlux> for example, I use just the command line and vi
[08:00] <kkathman> Yes, Kate is not an IDE
[08:00] <JohnFlux> almost all the kde developers i know do the same
[08:01] <JohnFlux> it does take getting used to, but it's hard to go back to an ide afterwards
[08:01] <_andrea> JohnFlux: Why hard to go back? Aren;t IDE features helpful?
[08:02] <JohnFlux> _andrea: you'd be surprised how much you get used to the freedom of a console
[08:02] <kkathman> I like IDEs for somethings
[08:02] <trispace> is there a way to use vim as kpart with KDE texteditors like kate?
[08:02] <JohnFlux> being able to grep, use svn commmands, and so on
[08:02] <JohnFlux> _andrea: i'm not saying it's better, it's just different really
[08:02] <JohnFlux> _andrea: at work I use an ide, and appreciate some of the features.  but in linux I never miss those features for some reason
[08:03] <_andrea> ok i wrote a hello world program in Kate in pascal code....
[08:03] <_andrea> how do i "Run" it lol :)
[08:03] <JohnFlux> _andrea: what did you save it as?
[08:03] <_andrea> .pas
[08:03] <trispace> vim + kate would be the coolest thing since sliced bread ;)
[08:03] <JohnFlux> _andrea: go to a console and do "make filename"
[08:03] <JohnFlux> _andrea: where your file is called  filename.pas
[08:03] <JohnFlux> note you don't use the suffic
[08:03] <JohnFlux> suffix
[08:04] <JohnFlux> trispace: well kdevelop can use vim
[08:04] <JohnFlux> trispace: maybe that's what you want
[08:04] <JohnFlux> trispace: it uses the kvim part
[08:04] <_andrea> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=27033
[08:04] <_andrea> sorry
[08:04] <_andrea> wrong paste..
[08:04] <_andrea> i did "make hello"
[08:04] <trispace> JohnFlux: great! i'll take a look
[08:04] <_andrea> since the filename is hello.pas
[08:04] <JohnFlux> _andrea: and what did it say>
[08:05] <_andrea> and it gave-> make: *** No rule to make target 'hello'. Stop
[08:05] <JohnFlux> I guess make doesn't recognise pascal.  not many people use pascal in linux afaik
[08:05] <trispace> JohnFlux: i saw that it's possible to select the "embedded editor" - so there should be a vim plugin, should'nt it?
[08:06] <_andrea> i updated to kde 3.5
[08:06] <_andrea> can i refresh without a reboot?
[08:08] <JohnFlux> _andrea: just log out
[08:08] <Pupeno_> _andrea: yes, log out, on the log in screen press ctrl alt backspace (just in case), log in.
[08:09] <JohnFlux> Pupeno_:restarting X isn't necessary
[08:10] <Pupeno_> JohnFlux: will it use the new kdm right away ?
[08:14] <_andrea> back
[08:14] <hDp`> GoGo Fra Ce Sohoir !!!!!
[08:17] <_andrea> !wiki
[08:17] <callie> !spcaxx
[08:17] <ubotu> callie: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:18] <callie> !spca5xx
[08:18] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, callie
[08:18] <michael> Anyone use Eclipse with the Jigloo plugin?  I'm finding I need to run eclipse with sudo or I get errors with that plugin...  is there an easy way to set an app to run with sudo via a launcher icon or do I need to always start it via the command line?
[08:18] <fatejudger> JakubS_: ping
[08:19] <arafat> michael: try kdesu
[08:20] <michael> searching apt-cache, thanks arafat
[08:21] <_andrea> !prelink
[08:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, _andrea
[08:21] <_andrea> !pre-link
[08:21] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, _andrea
[08:21] <_andrea> erm....
[08:22] <callie> i want a file manager that isnt konqi, i dont want webbrowsing in my file manager but not something as complex as Krusader, any suggestions ?
[08:26] <callie> you got any ideas kkathman ?
[08:26] <kkathman> callie:  try krusader
[08:27] <kkathman> thats what I use...I know you think its complex, but its very nice
[08:27] <kkathman> build in FTP and all that
[08:27] <kkathman> can cross your samba network too
[08:27] <callie> im using it at the moment, but it just seems to do alot of things i dont need
[08:27] <callie> so i was wondering if there where any lighter apps
[08:27] <kkathman> callie: yeah I dont use them myswld
[08:28] <kkathman> ew...
[08:28] <kkathman> myself I mean...whew...just washed my hands and cant do anything with em
[08:28] <callie> lol
[08:28] <kkathman> callie:  check this:  http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/23/2226202&tid=13&tid=49
[08:29] <kkathman> that might steer you in the right direction to look for another
[08:29] <callie> cheers dude
[08:29] <kkathman> np
[08:29] <callie> that is, if you're a dude
[08:29] <callie> or a dudette
[08:29] <kkathman> i am :)
[08:29] <kkathman> hehe
[08:29] <kkathman> a dude that is
[08:30] <callie> oooh, i remember using Rox a while ago in a fluxbox setup
[08:30] <callie> forgot about that one
[08:31] <_andrea> !prelink
[08:31] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, _andrea
[08:31] <_andrea> i need info about prelinking my system
[08:31] <_andrea> anywhere i can find it?
[08:31] <callie> pre linking?
[08:31] <_andrea> callie: yes
[08:31] <callie> im as lost as ubotu there _andrea
[08:32] <_andrea> lol
[08:32] <_andrea> its a way to make proggies come up faster
[08:32] <callie> perhaps you could explain a little more
[08:32] <_andrea> Program HelloWorld;
[08:32] <_andrea> Begin
[08:32] <_andrea> 	Writeln("Hello World!");
[08:32] <_andrea> 	Readln;
[08:32] <_andrea> End.
[08:32] <_andrea> wait
[08:32] <_andrea> sorry
[08:32] <michael> arafat: thanks again for kdesu, i've got the launcher customized perfectly to run with sudo :-)
[08:32] <callie> oops
[08:32] <gsuveg> re
[08:33] <_andrea> prelinking modiefies ELF shared libraries and executables
[08:33] <_andrea> so that fewer relocations need to be made at runtime
[08:33] <_andrea> and thus programs come up faster
[08:34] <callie> its scary down there!
[08:34] <_andrea> coz my apps seem to be going a little slow...on quite a powerful system.... :(
[08:34] <callie> which apps _andrea ?
[08:34] <_andrea> anything i try... :(
[08:34] <_andrea> OOo takes ages
[08:34] <_andrea> amarok too
[08:34] <callie> odd
[08:35] <callie> ages like 5 seconds? or like 30?
[08:35] <_andrea> Ooo takes some 15 seconds
[08:35] <_andrea> Amarok...some 5
[08:35] <_andrea> but....i'm used to faster speeds....
[08:35] <callie> speed isnt everything
[08:36] <_andrea> but it's nice to have
[08:36] <callie> and considering crashes are less frequent and less damaging a slight increase in load time will be balanced out in productivity
[08:36] <_andrea> especiall when u've got money spent on hardware
[08:37] <callie> what gfx card you using?
[08:37] <_andrea> nvidia 6800
[08:37] <callie> and you've installed the nvidia kernel drivers?
[08:37] <_andrea> nvidia-glx
[08:37] <_andrea> and nvidia-settings
[08:37] <callie> yeah
[08:37] <_andrea> and they work well
[08:37] <_andrea> even if windows still have that draggy feeling
[08:38] <callie> cool, just checking it wasnt something to do with rendering
[08:38] <callie> my computer isnt that high spec and things run pretty zippy
[08:38] <callie> havent made any major tweeks either
[08:38] <_andrea> hence my..."problem"
[08:38] <_andrea> i'm fairly new to linux
[08:39] <_andrea> but i'm quite confident with pc's overall...and i know enough to know it should be snappy
[08:39] <_andrea> i've even installed the 686-smp kernel
[08:39] <callie> something i need to get round to doing
[08:40] <_andrea> its easy with Adept
[08:40] <_andrea> find the 686-smp kernel
[08:40] <_andrea> select, install it...and reboot
[08:40] <callie> yeah, i know, i just dont feel the need at the moment
[08:40] <_andrea> u'll find the new 686 entries
[08:40] <callie> been using linux for 4 years _andrea
[08:41] <_andrea> wow
[08:41] <_andrea> ok
[08:41] <_andrea> ;D
[08:41] <callie> i dont fix anything that isnt broken
[08:41] <_andrea> sorry
[08:41] <callie> something you'll learn with linux
[08:41] <_andrea> but it's running SLOW :(
[08:42] <callie> i guess it could be any number of things, try to pin down whats slowing down your system and try looking on the forems _andrea
[08:42] <callie> *forums
[08:44] <callie> perhaps running a system monitor might help you see where the bottleneck is _andrea
[08:45] <_andrea> ok lets give that a try
[08:45] <JakubS_> fatejudger: pong
[08:45] <kameron> anyone find ktorrent really unstable?
[08:45] <JakubS_> like in crashing? nope
[08:46] <kameron> hmm, aight.
[08:46] <kameron> it crashes for me constantly.
[08:46] <JakubS_> is use current svn version
[08:46] <JakubS_> s/is/i/
[08:46] <kameron> what?
[08:47] <_andrea> !prefetch
[08:47] <ubotu> _andrea: Not a clue
[08:51] <_andrea> callie: http://bin-false.org/?p=10
[08:51] <_andrea> callie: this is what i was talking about
[08:53] <callie> cool _andrea, it's just i've never done it before because i've never felt the need to, so the fact your system is running a bit slow is interesting
[08:54] <_andrea> these instructions seem to be for an older version
[08:54] <_andrea> :(
[08:54] <callie> you using dapper?
[08:54] <fatejudger> JakubS_: are you busy today?
[08:54] <_andrea> 5.10
[08:54] <_andrea> with full updates
[08:54] <JakubS_> unfortunately, horrid exam tomorrow :(
[08:55] <fatejudger> JakubS_: ok, well I sent you the email as to when I would be available
[08:55] <fatejudger> JakubS_: do you think you could check it and let me know which time would be best for you?
[08:55] <JakubS_> wireless networks, and i _still_ does not understand gaussian minimum shift keying modulation :-(
[08:55] <JakubS_> ok, tuesday probably
[08:55] <JakubS_> you will be on #kubuntu?
[08:56] <fatejudger> JakubS_: yeah
[08:56] <JakubS_> good
[08:56] <callie> _andrea, thats kubuntu breezy
[08:56] <_andrea> breezy badger
[08:56] <_andrea> :D
[08:57] <trollig> anybody here that can tell me how network configuration has changed in dapper?
[08:58] <trollig> what the hell would everybody need an avahi-daimon for?
[08:58] <callie> _andrea, exactly
[08:58] <_andrea> callier: i'm learning as much as i can :)
[08:58] <trollig> why do I have to type /etc/init.d/networking restart to get my dns settings running after every boot?
[08:59] <trollig> where can I find documentation on that?
[08:59] <callie> _andrea, no worries, its confusing for me, i have no training at all, completely self taught. so its been a long frustrating road
[09:00] <_andrea> my training is all Windows...
[09:00] <_andrea> so i'm on my own too
[09:01] <callie> yeah, and yet you just taught me about pre linking so you've got some good grounding there, that will take you a long way
[09:01] <_andrea> hopefully :D
[09:03] <GameOver69> hey guys how do i uninstall firefox 1.5 from kubutnu... this is the package installed by automatix
[09:13] <unix_infidel> does kubuntu use artsd by default?
[09:13] <Xemanth^^> yes kde uses
[09:14] <unix_infidel> how can i disable artsd and use dmix instead?
[09:14] <unix_infidel> i run fluxbox, so i dont start kde at bootup.
[09:18] <trollig> unix_infidel: if you type ~$ ps ax|grep artsd
[09:18] <trollig> do you get a process?
[09:18] <unix_infidel> yes.
[09:18] <unix_infidel> 12003 ?        SL     1:52 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f
[09:19] <unix_infidel> so i guess i AM using artsd, how do i prevent artsd from init at bootup and use dmix by default using /etc/asound.conf which doesnt exist>
[09:20] <closeasperil> did anyone use the xmms-kde plugin here before? it kept crashing xmms and disabled the whole kde screen :/
[09:20] <trollig> can't tell you out of the box. Would have to do some reading myself
[09:24] <apacheLAGger> http://dev.bit-freaks.net/apachelogger/deb/
[09:24] <apacheLAGger> keyman, my first multi-deb
[09:24] <apacheLAGger> :D
[09:27] <St_Iron> hi
[09:29] <fatejudger> JakubS_: what time did you decide would work for you?
[09:38] <JakubS_> fatejudger: anytime on tuesday
[09:38] <fatejudger> JakubS_: like I said in my email, Tuesday doesn't work
[09:39] <fatejudger> JakubS_: read the email and let me know which time works for you, I listed a bunch of times in it
[09:39] <JakubS_> sorry, i misread :-)
[09:39] <JakubS_> let's say wednesday then
[09:39] <fatejudger> JakubS_: what time on Wednesday?
[09:40] <JakubS_> anytime after noon, just call me at #amarok or #kubuntu
[09:40] <fatejudger> JakubS_: what time zone are you in?
[09:40] <JakubS_> central european
[09:41] <fatejudger> JakubS_: oh geez, that's going to be difficult
[09:41] <fatejudger> JakubS_: I'm the Pacific Standard Time Zone
[09:41] <JakubS_> completely opposite side of the globe :-)
[09:41] <fatejudger> JakubS_: yeah, by the time I get home at 6
[09:42] <fatejudger> JakubS_: you'll be in bed
[09:42] <fatejudger> JakubS_: perhaps a different day?
[09:42] <unix_infidel> can anyone tell me how to prevent artsd from starting at boot?
[09:42] <fatejudger> unix_infidel: got into the KDE sound settings
[09:43] <fatejudger> unix_infidel: and disable the sound there
[09:43] <unix_infidel> fatejudger: already there.....
[09:43] <unix_infidel> fatejudger: where is says disable sound system?
[09:43] <JakubS_> fatejudger: i will have time since tuesday until sunday
[09:43] <fatejudger> unix_infidel: uncheck "enable the sound system"
[09:43] <JakubS_> after that another exam is coming
[09:43] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[09:44] <fatejudger> JakubS_: how about Friday at 10 AM PST?
[09:44] <fatejudger> JakubS_: what time would that be there?
[09:44] <unix_infidel> fatejudger: thanks.
[09:44] <fatejudger> unix_infidel: np
[09:44] <unix_infidel> how would i go about generating an asound.conf?
[09:44] <linuxboyfriend> i was trying to install my modem and when i gave command make install it gives me error that kernel source is not installed, how can i install kenel source
[09:45] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: it's in the repos somewhere
[09:45] <trispace> linuxboyfriend: aptitude search kernel-source
[09:45] <linuxboyfriend> fatejudger: can i install from CD
[09:45] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: no
[09:45] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: you'll have to download it
[09:45] <linuxboyfriend> fatejudger: why its not there in the CD
[09:45] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: it's only about 30 MB
[09:46] <linuxboyfriend> fatejudger: how can i connect to internet without installing my modem
[09:46] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: just search for "linux" in Adept, you'll see it somewhere
[09:46] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: well how are you connected right now?
[09:46] <linuxboyfriend> fatejudger: its someother system with suse
[09:46] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: wow, that kind of sucks
[09:47] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: it's really hard to use Kubuntu without high speed internet access though, IMO
[09:48] <linuxboyfriend> fatejudger: can i download and install kernel source manually
[09:48] <linuxboyfriend> fatejudger: from this system
[09:48] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: I would imagine so
[09:49] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: I think it's packaged as a .deb
[09:49] <fatejudger> linuxboyfriend: navigate to the repo that has it
[09:49] <fatejudger> !linuxsource
[09:49] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, fatejudger
[09:49] <fatejudger> !kernelsource
[09:49] <ubotu> kernelsource is, like, totally, apt-get install linux-source-<your kernel version>
[09:49] <fatejudger> there you go
[09:49] <fatejudger> find the package "linux-source-<your kernel version>"
[09:50] <trollig> linuxboyfriend: and then you read this http://www.debian.de/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-kernel-details
[09:51] <trollig> linuxboyfriend: well, at least start there :-)
[09:52] <trollig> n8
[09:59] <michael> Why might Kaffeine keep complaining it can't find decoders to handle mp3?  I have both xine and gstreamer and lame installed...?
[10:00] <michael> It says I might need to install the corresponding plugins and has a "Details" button that does nothing.  Quite unhelpful.  Does anyone think kaffeine is a great player?  Any ideas what I can do so it will read mp3s?
[10:02] <ilba7r> anyone know of a pdf editor in linux
[10:03] <Aji-Dahaka> for regular stuff, you can edit it in koffice or whatever
[10:03] <Aji-Dahaka> maybe openoffice, also
[10:03] <ilba7r> nope neither work
[10:04] <ilba7r> kword open only some text pdf files
[10:04] <Aji-Dahaka> does adobe put out acrobat for linux?
[10:05] <Aji-Dahaka> they have reader out for sure
[10:05] <ilba7r> ya only the reader
[10:06] <ilba7r> and adobe professional do not run under cxoffice
[10:06] <Aji-Dahaka> huh, seems someone asked about this on a mailing list I'm on, just a moment :)
[10:08] <ilba7r> i think someone just trying to help me :)
[10:08] <ilba7r> for i asked the same questions in other channels
[10:08] <ilba7r> eh i know it was slim chance but needed to be updated before re installing window
[10:08] <ilba7r> thanx Aji-Dahaka
[10:11] <Aji-Dahaka> ah, didn't see it but it looks like some people are using flpsed
[10:16] <jorik> for some programs sound doesnt work unless i so killall artsd, can i fix this ?
[10:17] <jorik> so=do
[10:18] <ilba7r> jorik those programs use the old sound server oss
[10:18] <ilba7r> they need exclusive acess to your sound device
[10:22] <Aji-Dahaka> ilba7r: can linux/kubuntu make virtual devices to allow multiple oss applications run at once?
[10:23] <ilba7r> Aji-Dahaka, i use virtual sound mixing
[10:23] <ilba7r> and for oss applications i run a wrapper with alsa aoss
[10:23] <ilba7r> works like a charm
[10:23] <Aji-Dahaka> ah, I see
[10:23] <ilba7r> !tell Aji-Dahaka about dmix
[10:23] <Aji-Dahaka> but nothing built into their oss device?
[10:24] <ilba7r> Aji-Dahaka, i am sorry i can not understand the question
[10:24] <ilba7r> whenever oss try to play a sound it has to connect to your sound device. and need exclusive lock on it to work this is /dev/dsp
[10:25] <Aji-Dahaka> well, I'm rather new to linux so don't understand its "intricacies" yet, but: is there anything built into the sound driver to allow virtualisation so that the exclusive lock on /dev/dsp is both fake and transparent to the user (application)
[10:25] <ilba7r> i never heard of that sorry
[10:27] <ilba7r> the new sound servers do that by default Aji-Dahaka ie alsa and to some extent esd
[10:27] <ilba7r> what program are you trying to run. for some can be config to run either sound sys
[10:28] <GameOver69> can anyone help me getting kaffeine working in firefox... i installed the mozilla plugin but it didnt work
[10:30] <azerty> hey all, does kubuntu Dapper Drake boot faster than Breezy ?
[10:30] <fatejudger> azerty: hell yes
[10:31] <fatejudger> azerty: about 20% faster I'd say
[10:31] <azerty> oh, thanks
[10:33] <ilba7r> Aji-Dahaka, you will need alsa-oss for the oss raper it is not installed by default
[10:36] <Aji-Dahaka> oh, I was just wondering if the kernel had anything for it
[10:37] <Aji-Dahaka> (used to FreeBSD which does have it built in)
[10:42] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[10:42] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm over kde
[10:42] <MetaMorfoziS> please tellme how can i cahnge the dpi
[10:42] <fatejudger> dpi?
[10:43] <MetaMorfoziS> my fonts -texts in the windows - are very nasty
[10:43] <fatejudger> well what did you do?
[10:43] <MetaMorfoziS> and i think the dpi is on the bad value - i'm readed this in forum
[10:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to set the dpi
[10:43] <fatejudger> I know the default uses a beautiful font
[10:44] <fatejudger> dpi is a figure most generally used for printers
[10:44] <Aji-Dahaka> X allows you to set that somehow
[10:44] <fatejudger> most everything that has to do with monitors uses pixels
[10:44] <fatejudger> I've never heard of changing the dpi for a font
[10:44] <callie> dpi is often used to express ppi
[10:44] <callie> no need to nit pick
[10:44] <fatejudger> perhaps a screenshot would help?
[10:45] <fatejudger> true...
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS> its not ide
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS> oh
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS> moment so..
[10:45] <MetaMorfoziS>  /clear:)
[10:46] <Aji-Dahaka> windows is like 96 bi default and X maybe 75, but it grabs the proper value from the DDC of the monitor in all cases where it can, iirc
[10:46] <callie> MetaMorfoziS, go to control centre > appearance and themes > fonts
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm at here
[10:46] <MetaMorfoziS> and i'm fuck this window about 20 minutes:D
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> so my fonts at times very nasty...
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> lumpish
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> and the antialiasing is nowhere..
[10:47] <Aji-Dahaka> contact your local webmaster ...
[10:47] <callie> well, you'll just have to find some fonts you like
[10:47] <Aji-Dahaka> tell him to be more sane about font choices
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm isntalled my win fonst
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> and setted the arial
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> but for ex konqueror ...
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> not working its not good
[10:47] <MetaMorfoziS> so where i can set the dpi?
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> tu 96?
[10:48] <MetaMorfoziS> o
[10:48] <GameOver69> where do u get extensions for conqueror.... like how firefox has
[10:48] <LjL> GameOver69: nowhere, that i know of
[10:49] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: it's an X setting somewhere ...
[10:49] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: seems google knows
[10:49] <callie> konqueror uses mozilla plugins
[10:50] <callie> netscape that is
[10:50] <MetaMorfoziS> x setting.. so its in the xorg.conf
[10:50] <Aji-Dahaka> seems windows fonts would be baddish at 75 (or whatever your monitor actually uses)
[10:50] <Aji-Dahaka> yeah, probably xorg.conf
[10:50] <MetaMorfoziS> okay i check it a moment i'm uploading an image
[10:50] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't think its nice...
[10:50] <MetaMorfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/snapshot3.png
[10:51] <MetaMorfoziS> see the "start" menu
[10:51] <MetaMorfoziS> and the font in the konqueror ath right side down
[10:51] <MetaMorfoziS> and window titles...
[10:52] <callie> MetaMorfoziS, you have a tft monitor?
[10:52] <Aji-Dahaka> http://www.mozilla.org/unix/dpi.html (looks relevant)
[10:53] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[10:53] <MetaMorfoziS> 17" ctx s700a
[10:53] <Aji-Dahaka> looks like Xresources is the place
[10:53] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[10:53] <callie> MetaMorfoziS, just checking since your using a 5:4 aspect ratio
[10:54] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@metagepe:/etc/kde3$ xdpyinfo | grep resolutio
[10:54] <MetaMorfoziS>   resolution:    75x75 dots per inch
[10:54] <MetaMorfoziS> shit!
[10:55] <GameOver69> can anyone help me... firefox doesnt not seem to recognize any of my media plugins i install
[10:55] <callie> MetaMorfoziS, watch the language dude
[10:55] <GameOver69> not kaffeeine... not mplayer
[10:55] <GameOver69> etc
[10:55] <MetaMorfoziS> sry
[10:55] <ilba7r> GameOver69, which ver of firefox you use
[10:55] <MetaMorfoziS> so x thinks my dpi is 75...
[10:56] <GameOver69> 1.5
[10:56] <ilba7r> GameOver69, you can copy the links to your direct. the problem you report is only for 11.5
[10:56] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: it probably is 333
[10:56] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: is*
[10:56] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[10:57] <MetaMorfoziS> 333?
[10:57] <ilba7r> GameOver69, you will need to copy the plugins or make symbolic links to them
[10:57] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: typing accident ;)
[10:57] <GameOver69> ilba7r..... ok from where to where
[10:57] <GameOver69> u lead the way
[10:57] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: ... is what I meant, the keys are one away from each other
[10:57] <ilba7r> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[10:58] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: anyways, windows just chooses 96 regardless of what reality is.  X detects the dpi that your monitor tells it
[10:58] <ilba7r> or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> the link
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> and?
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> if it's true
[10:58] <MetaMorfoziS> why this nasty fonts?
[10:58] <ilba7r> put them in your home directory under .mozilla/plugins
[10:58] <GameOver69> ok one sec
[10:59] <MetaMorfoziS> the link said
[10:59] <MetaMorfoziS> edit the cnf
[10:59] <Aji-Dahaka> MetaMorfoziS: because you are using fonts that were designed to be used only at 96 dpi on a monitor that is 75dpi?
[10:59] <MetaMorfoziS> and add the dimensions of my mon.
[10:59] <MetaMorfoziS> the default fonts, in kde
[10:59] <MetaMorfoziS> all font is bad..
[11:00] <GameOver69> ilba, howo come this works.... and it doesnt when i install it properly
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> if i set all font setting to default
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> but set the font size to 12
[11:00] <MetaMorfoziS> but 10 is very low, its going to nasty
[11:00] <ilba7r> GameOver69, sorry can you repeat that again
[11:00] <LjL> duh, my monitor says its DPI is 98x108, now *that's* quite a number =)
[11:01] <Aji-Dahaka> huh, they look goodish here
[11:01] <ilba7r> firefox1.07 know where to look for the plugins
[11:01] <Aji-Dahaka> LjL: widescreen?
[11:01] <ilba7r> you made a custom install
[11:01] <LjL> Aji-Dahaka: no, bog standard 15" sony trinitron
[11:01] <LjL> err 19"
[11:01] <ilba7r> so you just needed the symbolic links. 1.5 is not supported under breezy
[11:01] <Aji-Dahaka> LjL: huh, interesting
[11:01] <Aji-Dahaka> LjL: a crooked number
[11:01] <GameOver69> iba7r....howo come it hasnt been realeased yet... any idea?
[11:02] <LjL> Aji-Dahaka: actually i think i'm running it with a non 1:1 aspect ratio resolution, now that i think of it
[11:02] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody help me to set beautiful fonts...:(
[11:02] <GameOver69> its been out for a while now
[11:02] <ilba7r> GameOver69, it will cause some packages to break
[11:02] <Aji-Dahaka> ah, that could be it
[11:02] <ilba7r> and it can only enter through the backports anyway
[11:02] <ilba7r> dapper will support it though
[11:02] <MetaMorfoziS> :((
[11:03] <m_tadeu> hi...i'm unable to read dvd's
[11:03] <MetaMorfoziS> what i do? set manually the dpi in the xorg conf? or what?
[11:03] <MetaMorfoziS> windows use 96dpi, and its work...
[11:03] <m_tadeu> something like "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. "
[11:03] <m_tadeu> what can i do abou this?
[11:03] <ilba7r> GameOver69, ubuntu policy is to take a snapshot and not introduce any new ver. The official policy is for security updates only. This give you a more stable os. The snapshots are updated though every 6 month which is quite fast compared to debian
[11:04] <LjL> Aji-Dahaka: yeah 1280x1024. i even forgot about this, because it goes almost completely unnoticed in X (while it would be very visible in Windows, probably for the very reason that the DPI there are fixed)
[11:04] <ilba7r> GameOver69, sometime applications or new versions can be backported sometimes it is risky to do so so you just wait for the next release
[11:05] <Aji-Dahaka> man yakuake is slick :)
[11:05] <m_tadeu> i'm getting this error when reading dvd's: "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. " with Kaffeine. how do i solve this problem?
[11:05] <Aji-Dahaka> m_tadeu: did you install all of the dvd stuffs?
[11:06] <ilba7r> m_tadeu, libdvdcss
[11:06] <GameOver69> iba8r... ok no problem... hmm the mplayer plugin works... but it never plays any streaming wmv
[11:06] <GameOver69> loads then stops
[11:06] <ilba7r> !tell m_tadeu about restrictedformats
[11:06] <m_tadeu> "Your DVD is probably crypted. According to your country laws, you can or can't use libdvdcss to be able to read this disc. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)"
[11:06] <Aji-Dahaka> According to your country laws, you can or can't use libdvdcss to be able to ...
[11:07] <ilba7r> GameOver69, it should not be like that
[11:07] <Aji-Dahaka> maybe "The use of libdvdcss is restricted in some countries" or similar?
[11:07] <ilba7r> GameOver69, are you sure the right plugin is installed
[11:07] <m_tadeu> Aji-Dahaka: And if i change the configuration in my OS?
[11:07] <GameOver69> yes
[11:07] <ilba7r> ok go to the dir where the plugins is
[11:07] <ilba7r> .mozilla/plugins
[11:07] <ilba7r> and type
[11:07] <MetaMorfoziS> ql
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> its work
[11:08] <ilba7r> ls -l mplayer*
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> i added to the xorg conf my monitor dimensions...
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> thx all
[11:08] <Aji-Dahaka> did it work?
[11:08] <Aji-Dahaka> good
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> where i can set up the "startup"
[11:08] <GameOver69> iba7r.... and kaffeine says i dont have the proper decoder to handle it
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> if i want to start some programs with kde?
[11:08] <ilba7r> you should at least find 8 plugins pointing to another file
[11:09] <GameOver69> how do i find that out
[11:09] <ilba7r> GameOver69, my recommend remove the kaffiene-mozilla plugin
[11:09] <ilba7r> and just have the mozilla-mplayer one
[11:10] <ilba7r> ok got to go now
[11:10] <hDp`> http://www.2m3.net/images/fichiers/mp3.jpg
[11:10] <ilba7r> take care all
[11:10] <GameOver69> ok but itloads now just doesnt play the file
[11:10] <ilba7r> GameOver69, reinstall the mozilla-mplayer
[11:10] <ilba7r> close firefox and open it again
[11:10] <ilba7r> than try
[11:10] <GameOver69> ok... do i need to copy it over again
[11:10] <GameOver69> to the home directory
[11:11] <ilba7r> where did you copy it from
[11:11] <GameOver69> the usr.lib.mozilla one
[11:11] <GameOver69> that u told me
[11:11] <ilba7r> great
[11:11] <ilba7r> yah copy it again
[11:11] <GameOver69> and if it happens again?
[11:11] <ilba7r> take care now got to go
[11:11] <m_tadeu> thanx guys...
[11:11] <ilba7r> GameOver69, play it with firefox 1.07
[11:12] <ilba7r> if it work than your plugins are proper
[11:12] <GameOver69> ok ill try it out
[11:13] <hDp`> cette fois ci c'est ok : http://www.2m3.net/lien-externe-1200-La_moustafette.html
[11:15] <m_tadeu> btw...how do i enable the dma to my cdrom?
[11:15] <bimberi> !dma
[11:15] <bimberi> !+dma
[11:15] <ubotu> somebody said dma was Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[11:17] <MetaMorfoziS> where i can set programs to auto start up?
[11:18] <m_tadeu> thanx again
[11:18] <dandielionous> I could be a little slow but I don't see how you can transfer data from one memory area to another without having to go throught the central processing unit.
[11:18] <dandielionous> Unless you're just moving floppy discs and cds or dvds around.
[11:21] <Tm_T> dandielionous: easy :)
[11:22] <dandielionous> I'm always about one step behind in technology. :)
[11:22] <Tm_T> hehe
[11:22] <dandielionous> But it did have to do with dvd,cd and other optical readers.
[11:23] <karlwrk> kaffeine locked up, and I killed it, but now it won't start again, anyone have any ideas?
[11:24] <dandielionous> I don't see where it says it's not using the cpu though.
[11:24] <dandielionous> Just doesn't seem logical to me.  No cpu not computer.
[11:25] <karlwrk> it spawns a child process, that immediately goes to zombie state <defunct>
[11:25] <dandielionous> Now that would be more logical.
[11:25] <dandielionous> Sort of like a virtual disc.
[11:26] <dandielionous> Setting up a program to handle that process.
[11:29] <dandielionous> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access
[11:30] <lajos> hi all
[11:31] <MetaMorfoziS> haho
[11:31] <lajos> im use first this OS its very cool....:)
[11:31] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set the startup list?
[11:31] <lajos> sry i dont know
[11:31] <MetaMorfoziS> lajos!?
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> magyar vagy?:D
[11:32] <lajos> igen
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> lol:)
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> cs:)
[11:32] <lajos> hj egy magyar :)
[11:32] <lajos> hali
[11:32] <callie> PALINKA!
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> ezis magyar
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[11:32] <GameOver69> hey how do i get realplayer to work in firefox?
[11:32] <lajos> most raktam fel kubuntut llat:)
[11:32] <lajos> hi magyarok:D
[11:32] <MetaMorfoziS> en most raktam fel a kde-t eddig gnomet hasznaltam
[11:33] <MetaMorfoziS> perceken belul megbasznak minket azert mert magyarul beszelunk:)
[11:33] <lajos> sztem kde j
[11:33] <lajos> ht lehet
[11:33] <MetaMorfoziS> sztem is csak vannak kis kezdeti gondjaim
[11:33] <MetaMorfoziS> minthogy 20perce hasznalom kb
[11:33] <MetaMorfoziS> nemtom hoy lehet autoinditasba rakni cumokat meg ilyenek
[11:34] <dandielionous> GameOver69: I'm still trying to figure out how to get RealPlayer working.
[11:35] <dandielionous> I am a newb though.
[11:35] <GameOver69> lol
[11:35] <dandielionous> I did manage to figure out how to install it.
[11:35] <dandielionous> I'm just now sure if I did it in the right place.
[11:35] <dandielionous> :)
[11:36] <_lajos> nah
[11:37] <fatejudger> is anyone able to use KTorrent RC2 in Dapper?
[11:37] <fatejudger> the plugins don't show up for me
[11:37] <MetaMorfoziS> The firefox is only for me nasty?
[11:37] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm thinking it about the gui
[11:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ff's gui like wine
[11:38] <Tm_T> fatejudger: I compile from svn, works
[11:38] <adriyel> whats the name of the superkaramba widget that functions like the OS X dock?
[11:39] <fatejudger> Tm_T: there is something seriously wrong with my linux install
[11:39] <fatejudger> Tm_T: all of these weird ass problems
[11:39] <fatejudger> Tm_T: me not being able to compile amarok with gstreamer support
[11:39] <fatejudger> Tm_T: now this
[11:39] <fatejudger> I'm wondering if I should reinstall Dapper...
[11:40] <bam_> yes
[11:40] <Tm_T> anyway, good night ->
[11:40] <bam_> reinstall
[11:40] <_lajos> Can i play dvd and videos with basic kubuntu 5.10 install?
[11:40] <adriyel> anyone?
[11:40] <MetaMorfoziS> _lajos: nem, de nezdmeg ezt:
[11:40] <MetaMorfoziS> ize
[11:40] <MetaMorfoziS> googlezz ra:
[11:41] <MetaMorfoziS> +site:wiki.hup.hu +ubuntu
[11:41] <MetaMorfoziS> 1-2. link
[11:41] <_lajos> mi kell hozz? player? vagy codec?
[11:41] <MetaMorfoziS> about_breezy badger v ilyesmi
[11:41] <MetaMorfoziS> es ott levan irva minden
[11:41] <GameOver69> question: if u remove programs.... does it delte them from your hard drive... it seems if i reinstall s omething it doesnt even download it just installs and thats it
[11:41] <fatejudger> GameOver69: it doesn't delete the packages
[11:41] <fatejudger> GameOver69: just the installed files
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> nemjol mondtam
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> mind1
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> http://hup.hu/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Kalauz
[11:42] <MetaMorfoziS> ezaz
[11:42] <GameOver69> fatejudger, doesnt that take up space
[11:42] <fatejudger> GameOver69: sudo apt-get clean (if you want to erase the packages too)
[11:42] <fatejudger> GameOver69: yeah, but very little
[11:42] <GameOver69> ok thanks... also where can i download the w32 codecs from
[11:43] <fatejudger> !w32codecs
[11:43] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> Aji-Dahaka: can help me about firefox?
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/snapshot4.png
[11:43] <GameOver69> thanks
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i think my firefox is use the gnome gui...
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i have gnome and kde but use the kde
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> my ff use gnome under kde?:D
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> so its nasty...
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> nem tudok angolul bassztokmeg.
[11:43] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[11:43] <lajos_> :)
[11:44] <lajos_> firefox megy kde alatt is
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> igen
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> de nekem van gnome-m
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> es ugynezki a guija
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> mintamikor egy gnomes progit inditok kde alatt
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> es a gombjai is olyanok
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> sot  a mgse gomnak a kis kpecskje is ua
[11:44] <lajos_> aha szal nem kde-s a kinzet
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> ja
[11:44] <nalioth> english please here
[11:44] <MetaMorfoziS> de hoygtudom ravenni hogy kdeslegyen?
[11:45] <lajos_> a moment :)
[11:45] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i force firefox, tu use KDE gui? not gnome?
[11:45] <MetaMorfoziS> tu:DDDDD
[11:45] <MetaMorfoziS> to...
[11:45] <lajos_> if u change the skin on ff?
[11:45] <nalioth> MetaMorfoziS: firefox has to be built with qt libs to appear as kde
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> qt?
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> i downloaded a clean firefox
[11:46] <fatejudger> why don't you just use Konqueror?
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> but its not work...
[11:46] <fatejudger> why does everyone feel that they need to use Firefox?
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to use firefox.
[11:46] <fatejudger> why?
[11:46] <fatejudger> give me one good reason
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> firefox is better than all...:)
[11:46] <MetaMorfoziS> the extensions
[11:46] <fatejudger> which extension
[11:46] <fatejudger> hmm?
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm developing and i need a lotof
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> for ex
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> web developer
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> measure it
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> color zilla
[11:47] <GameOver69> does anyone know where i can get more sources to add to the update list?
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> adblock
[11:47] <fatejudger> Firefox is slow, ugly, and has poor boot times
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> wml browser
[11:47] <fatejudger> Konq has adblock
[11:47] <fatejudger> if you want web developing tools for Konq, get Quanta
[11:47] <lajos_> metamofozis: the new konqueror is good but i dont use java chat...
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm not know konqueror
[11:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm using kde 20minutes ago
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> quanta?
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> what is it?
[11:48] <fatejudger> I used to think that Konqueror was bad too, but that's because I never even tried it
[11:48] <fatejudger> once I did, I found out that it was awesome
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> btw, i want firefox.
[11:48] <fatejudger> Quanta is a HTML code editing suite
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> my problem is the firefox's gui
[11:48] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm dont want html editing suite
[11:48] <fatejudger> with previewing using the KHTML engine
[11:48] <fatejudger> which is what you do want
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> i want firefox:)
[11:49] <fatejudger> omg...
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> with kde based gui
[11:49] <fatejudger> but you can't get that
[11:49] <ubuntu> dandielionous, hi, it's tmbr
[11:49] <fatejudger> because Firefox sucks
[11:49] <fatejudger> hence the uglyness
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> no.
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> because firefox using my gnome gui...
[11:49] <fatejudger> have you even tried Konqueror?
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm said
[11:49] <fatejudger> well then try and
[11:49] <MetaMorfoziS> 20minutes ago using kde...
[11:49] <fatejudger> tell me that you don't like it
[11:49] <fatejudger> wtf does that mean?
[11:50] <fatejudger> that isn't even a sentence
[11:50] <MetaMorfoziS> fatejudger shut up. i want firefox, i want help.
[11:50] <fatejudger> then apt-get install firefox
[11:50] <fatejudger> and deal with the shittyness
[11:50] <MetaMorfoziS> not missionary
[11:50] <fatejudger> what the hell do I care
[11:50] <MetaMorfoziS> lol:)
[11:51] <fatejudger> but don't come in here bitching about how Firefox sucks when there's a perfectly good replacement
[11:51] <MetaMorfoziS> you are fazed:)
[11:51] <fatejudger> ...
[11:51] <_StarScream> fatejudger has a point
[11:51] <MetaMorfoziS> and i'm dont has help.
[11:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm has only the missionaring...
[11:51] <MetaMorfoziS> ezek mekkora faszok
[11:52] <lajos_> nem tudjk sztem mit akarsz:)
[11:52] <tmbr_41> dandie, hello
[11:52] <MetaMorfoziS> de
[11:52] <MetaMorfoziS> irtam
[11:52] <dandielionous> hello tmbr_41
[11:52] <MetaMorfoziS> hogy firefoxot kdevel, erre lekezd ugatni hoyg mekkora faszvagyok hoyg firefoxot akarok hasznalni
[11:52] <MetaMorfoziS> sztem akkoris a firefox a legjobb mindegyik felett, es leszarom ha mast gondol...:)
[11:52] <MetaMorfoziS> csak a guija idegesit:)
[11:52] <lajos_> egybknt kubuntu minden gnomeos cuccot kdes-en kezel gy olvastam
[11:53] <tmbr_41> had to break into the kids' room, as the door was locked from the inside, with n one inside..
[11:53] <tmbr_41> so I'm just getting here
[11:53] <lajos_> nem tom mi lehet a baj
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> kezelkezel...
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> de guija ocsmany
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/snapshot4.png
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> hat lattad:)
[11:53] <lajos_> a gnome-nak :)
[11:53] <dandielionous> I'm trying to figure out how to im you tmbr_41 so we're not off topic.
[11:54] <dandielionous> I think I have to register.
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> a gnomenak is szep guija van gnome alatt
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> a kdenak is kde alatt
[11:54] <dandielionous> One moment tmbr_41 .
[11:54] <tmbr_41> ok
[11:54] <lajos_> na ja
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> de gnome alatt a kdes cucc az csunya
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> kde alatt a gnomes cucc undorito.
[11:54] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[11:55] <lajos_> na indtok valami gnomeost megnzem:)
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> na nemge belovom a kopete-t
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> istenem de undorito ezisbazeg
[11:55] <dandielionous> Is there a kubuntu offtopic room?
[11:55] <MetaMorfoziS> mi a fasz utott ebbe?
[11:56] <dandielionous> How do I join it?
[11:56] <tmbr_41> me too, but how do I register it too?
[11:56] <dandielionous> lol m2 tmbr_41 .
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> hallod ez megint elcseszdtt
[11:57] <Arcanimus> how do you make it so that linux runs a script when any user logs in <NOT KDE AUTOSTART>
[11:57] <Arcanimus> i'm assuming it's like /etc/init.d/something
[11:57] <MetaMorfoziS> istennbizny megolom
[11:57] <GameOver69> ok guys anything i play in mplayer in firefox... loads then stops
[11:57] <GameOver69> nothign plays
[11:57] <Arcanimus> I want it to run fortune when someone logs in
[11:57] <GameOver69> i have all the codecs and plugins installed
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> Arcanimus: .bashrc?
[11:57] <GameOver69> help :(
[11:57] <dandielionous> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration I found this tmbr_41 .
[11:58] <lajos_> mi cseszdtt el?
[11:58] <Arcanimus> LeeJunFan, where do I find this bashrc?
[11:58] <fatejudger> where does apt store all of the .deb packages that it installs?
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> bazz
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> msotmar jo
[11:58] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[11:58] <trispace> Arcanimus: you may create one in your homedirectory
[11:58] <Arcanimus> how do I do it for all users?
[11:58] <LeeJunFan> Arcanimus: in the $HOME dir of the user, but if it's run there it won't really do anything if they log into a GUI, if you want it to work with the GUI you'll have to use kde Autostart.
[11:59] <Arcanimus> i know, i don't want it to show on a gui
[11:59] <dandielionous> tmbr_41: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:59] <Arcanimus> i want it to be sent if someone logs in over ssh
[12:00] <lajos_> i think etc/init.d... maybe
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> Arcanimus: do it there and it will show up every time they start a bash shell. in .bashrc that is, you could also edit the system wide /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:00] <Arcanimus> yeah but there's no bashrc there
[12:00] <MetaMorfoziS> mimi
[12:00] <SuperNova> Hi!
[12:00] <MetaMorfoziS> autostartrol beszelnek?
[12:00] <lajos_> aha
[12:00] <MetaMorfoziS> na azt hogylehet?
[12:00] <SuperNova> does anyone know when kubuntu with KDE 3.5 is goint to be released?
[12:00] <MetaMorfoziS> ha elakarok inditani auto egy progit?
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> Arcanimus: .bashrc (it's hidden) have to use the .
[12:00] <lajos_> n gy tom etc/init.d mappba kell tenni
[12:00] <Arcanimus> i know :P
[12:01] <Arcanimus> the /etc/bash.bashrc was what i was looking for
[12:01] <Arcanimus> thanks
[12:01] <lajos_> use the mc :)