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robotgeekhi, anybody home?03:11
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Burgundaviarobotgeek, nope03:31
robotgeekBurgundavia: what's the best way to create diff's for new files, individual?03:32
robotgeeki mean i added new files, should i just create diff's for each one?03:33
Burgundaviayou want to get a new file added to svn?03:33
robotgeekyessir03:34
Burgundaviajust attach the whole file to your email and mention that you want to add it03:34
robotgeekheh, that is so much easier. lol03:34
robotgeekokay, i'll just attach and email. can i just tar.gz the directory and mail it?03:36
Burgundaviarobotgeek, are you looking at a lot of files?03:43
Burgundaviaand what sort?03:43
robotgeekBurgundavia: if you can copy the ubuntu-desktop-guide contents over here, that would be great03:44
robotgeekubuntu-doc/ubuntu/desktopguide/C -> ubuntu-doc/kubuntu/desktopguide/C03:45
BurgundaviaI don't have enough experience with the svn server recently to be comfortable doing that03:47
robotgeekokay, i'll just ask on the mailing list?03:48
Burgundaviayep03:48
robotgeekthank Burgundavia 03:49
Burgundavianp03:50
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sola_phideshi05:04
sola_phidesi was wondering if there is a guide for installing ubuntu without internet connection05:05
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mdkerobotgeek_away, you can just diff the whole directory09:47
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mdkeenrico, buongiorno, have you got 2 minutes?10:08
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enricomdke: I can try 10:16
enricomdke: buongiorno!10:16
mdkeenrico, :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-January/004930.html10:16
mdkecould you have a look for that user and see if anything is obviously wrong on his settings?10:17
enricomdke: ok.  let's see if I find the list admin password :)10:17
Burgundaviamdke, any objections to me also getting admin rights on the ubuntu-doc mailing list?10:18
mdkeno10:18
mdkeyou could replace Liz?10:18
Burgundaviasure10:18
mdkeenrico, grazie10:19
Burgundaviathough my chromosomes are rather different and i don't think I am pretty10:19
enricomdke: looks like I can't find the password. Let's search in my mail archive...10:19
mdkeenrico, ok, don't spend too long on it tho10:19
enricomdke: could it be that the password has been changed recently?  I tried passwords from my old mail archive and they don't work either10:21
mdkeenrico, I don't know I'm afraid. No problem, we can wait for Jerome to turn up. He should have it10:23
enricok10:24
enricomdke: if the list configuration is ok, then it could be an error on his side, like a spam filter10:24
robotgeekmdke: thanks for the commit10:24
mdkeenrico, yeah these things are normally user problems I guess10:25
mdkerobotgeek, no problem10:25
mdkeman I hate it when evolution randomly expands all my threads in all the folders10:33
robotgeekheh, i use kmail > evolution10:34
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mdkebut robotgeek_away has plans for working on it01:03
jsgotangcoahhh01:03
jsgotangcomdke, you taking over rob's work?01:03
jsgotangco(happy new year btw)01:03
mdkejsgotangco, which work?01:04
jsgotangcofaqguide01:05
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mdkerob isn't working on the docs anymore01:06
jsgotangco:(01:07
mdkehe said he might do a bit01:08
mdkebut i think it makes sense to take him off as contact for the guide01:08
jsgotangcook sir01:08
jsgotangco:)01:08
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mdkehmm wtf is docbase? https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/2910501:10
jsgotangcoenrico?01:11
enricojsgotangco: hi!01:15
enricomdke: docbase is a system used to register documentation in a Debian-based system01:15
jsgotangcomdke, what about https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/29153 can we close this after we edit the source and change it to alacarte?01:15
mdkeenrico, do we need it?01:15
enricomdke: sure :)01:16
enricomdke: and it's just a matter of writing a small metadata file01:16
enricomdke: apt-get install doc-base01:16
mdkejsgotangco, sure, we fix the bug, then close it01:16
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enricomdke: the package contains a small "Debian doc-base Manual" which will tell you everything about it01:17
mdkealrighty01:17
enricojsgotangco: how can I help you?01:17
jsgotangcoenrico, hi, you already did (the malone bug above)01:17
jsgotangco:D01:17
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jsgotangcoyes great leader01:20
mdke??01:21
jsgotangcook will dear leader do?01:24
jsgotangco:)01:24
jsgotangcoi've wanted to tackle those pending bugs since bugzilla but couldn't find anyone to discuss it before :/01:24
enricojsgotangco: oh, cool! :)01:28
highvoltagemdke: i can see :)01:46
mdkesorry for spam01:48
mdkeok i've had enough01:48
mdkecya01:48
highvoltageseeya!01:56
mpt__mdke, if "The fix will be in dapper with the next upload", it hasn't been released yet, so it shouldbe Fix Committed02:09
mpt__The distinction is so that people using the current release can search for a bug and see that a fix has been committed since that release, instead of reporting a duplicate.02:10
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mdkempt, yes I know, but I am cutting corners. The problem is that we don't get round to looking at bugs very much, so it is quicker to close bugs like that. I'm willing to take the risk of duplicates03:06
jsgotangcohrmmm how much would 1GB USB stick cost lately03:14
jsgotangco?03:14
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robitaillemdke:  ping07:25
mdkerobitaille, pong07:28
robitaillebugs 29059  and 29137  Should they be "rejected"?  They are still open upstream07:29
mdkerobitaille, they are rejected in ubuntu-docs because they aren't bugs in that package. I _think_ that "rejected" includes the bugzilla UPSTREAM07:30
mdkei might be wrong tho07:30
robitailleso they should be rejected for "ubuntu-docs (ubuntu)", but unconfirmed for  upstream07:31
robitailleor something like that...still getting use to Malone...07:31
mdkeyes, but in this case the upstream is gnome, which doesn't use Malone, so there is no upstream fix there07:32
mdkealso, ubuntu-docs is also an upstream project with bugs filed :) that's the confusing part07:33
mdkein fact all the bugs I've been working on today were in ubuntu-docs (upstream)07:33
robitaillefor 29059,  maybe   we should do "gnome users docs(upstream) unconfirmed" and "ubuntu-docs (ubuntu) rejected".  07:36
mdkeis there a gnome users docs (upstream)?07:36
robitaillelet me try07:36
mdkei thought because gnome doesn't use malone, there wouldn't be one07:36
robitaillethere is a gnome2-user doc.  look at 29059 now07:38
robitaillemaybe it makes more sense that way.  the bug is close for us, but malone can still point to upstream if anyone ever care07:40
mdkerobitaille, i don't think it helps, because the gnome developers don't use or maintain that. It is just adding confusion about when the bug gets fixed. That module was probably just added because some translator team uses rosetta to translate gnome07:41
mdkein fact, it might be a bit counterproductive07:43
mdkeusers might think that doing that will help get their bug fixed, but it won't07:43
robitaillebut personally I find this confusing to see that upstream is rejected while it is not07:44
robitaillebut at the end of day, I don't really care one way or the other :)07:44
mdkethat is a bug in malone, IMO07:46
mdkethe bug is: "rejected" doesn't mean rejected07:46
mdkeor rather, it means rejected for ubuntu-docs, and the correct package where the bug is doesn't use malone, so...07:47
mdkeit would work if everyone used malone :D07:48
mdkebut we can't keep bugs open in two places, IMHO07:50
robitailleall the upstream bugs are open in two places....07:53
robitaillein Malone and gnome's bugzilla for example07:53
mdkegnome bugs aren't open in malone as upstream bugs, or at least, they shouldn't be07:54
mdkeonly ubuntu bugs and bugs in products that use malone as their bugtrackers are in Malone07:54
mdkeafaik07:55
robitaillei guess you're right.  07:55
mdkeit's pretty confusing, but I think that is how it works07:56
mdkelaunchpad is easy if everyone uses it, but a bit tricky if upstream doesn't use it07:56
robitaillei have been looking at my pile of bugs in malone, and all the upstreams are also valid ubuntu bugs as well, thus open in both locations07:58
mdkeah07:59
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mptmdke, if Launchpad could show you (or anyone else) a summary of all Ubuntu doc bugs, including how many were New, how many were Fix Committed, how many were Fix Released, and so on, would that make you less likely to cut corners?08:43
mdkempt, absolutely. Especially "list all Fix Committed"09:10
mptyeah09:11
mdkempt, if launchpad would send me fewer emails, that would be good too09:16
mdkemaybe figure out that I'm a member of the ubuntu-doc group, and not send me a separate mail too09:16
mdkedunno if that would work tho09:16
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SteveMyersMr.Galvin, you available?09:24
mpt(mgalvin)09:24
mgalvinSteveMyers, mpt: yes?09:25
SteveMyersmglavin are you available?09:25
SteveMyersah ok09:25
SteveMyersmind if I pm you real quick?09:25
mgalvinsure09:25
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