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| JohnnyMast | ots back :) | 02:25 |
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| JohnnyMast | *its back | 02:25 |
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| JohnnyMast | any one from the UK here ? | 03:41 |
| LaserJock_away | doko: ping? | 03:47 |
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| bmonty | how stupid is it to not put any password on console access to your router? | 05:25 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: very | 05:26 |
| bmonty | tell that to the hotel I'm currently staying at | 05:26 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: so where is this router >:) | 05:26 |
| bmonty | that wouldn't be nice :) | 05:26 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: It's my job - besides when I'm sick, sometimes I'm tempted by the darkside | 05:27 |
| bmonty | I added a password for them ;) | 05:27 |
| Yagisan | r00tm3 :) | 05:28 |
| bmonty | yeah, something like that | 05:28 |
| === Yagisan is suffering from bad food poisoning :( | ||
| bmonty | that was me a couple days ago | 05:29 |
| bmonty | I prayed to the porcelin god for a couple hours :( | 05:29 |
| Yagisan | I was so bad last night, my wife called an ambulance | 05:30 |
| bmonty | ouch | 05:30 |
| Yagisan | yep - ouch is the word | 05:30 |
| bmonty | I'm guessing they hooked you up to a saline IV, right? | 05:31 |
| Yagisan | nope :( I was advised due to the current waiting times at all hospitials near me | 05:31 |
| Yagisan | I'd have more dignaty lying in a corner of my house | 05:32 |
| Yagisan | before I'd get medical treatment | 05:32 |
| bmonty | you are in Canada, right? | 05:32 |
| Yagisan | Australia | 05:32 |
| bmonty | ah, sorry | 05:32 |
| bmonty | :) | 05:32 |
| Yagisan | I took the dignified (if you can call it that) option | 05:33 |
| Yagisan | and that was 18 hours agao | 05:33 |
| VoX | what state you in, Yagisan? | 05:33 |
| Yagisan | I can now start to move arround | 05:33 |
| Yagisan | VoX: NSW | 05:33 |
| VoX | ah | 05:34 |
| bmonty | something a pharmacist avised me on the other day for naseau... | 05:34 |
| bmonty | take some cola syrup and pour a couple tablespoons over ice and then sip it | 05:34 |
| bmonty | helped calm down my nausea the other night | 05:34 |
| Yagisan | that may be hard - I'm having trouble keeping that water down :( | 05:35 |
| Yagisan | s/that/the | 05:35 |
| bmonty | keeping water down would be a prerequist I would think | 05:35 |
| Yagisan | I advise no one to ever eat at subway, in the DFO centre, homebush bay, NSW | 05:36 |
| bmonty | Yagisan: gotta hand it to you, there is no way i could sit at my computer when I feel like blowing chunks | 05:36 |
| bmonty | as of a couple days ago, Quiznos is my new favorite sub shop | 05:37 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: It's holding me up - If I lie down it gets worse | 05:37 |
| Yagisan | and anyway - I don't get sick pay | 05:37 |
| Yagisan | so I'd still be here - even if I snapped my arms and legs off | 05:38 |
| Yagisan | my kids need to eat - so I need to work | 05:38 |
| bmonty | unfortunately, I know the feeling | 05:38 |
| bmonty | even though I've been sick, I think I'm pushing 80 hours for this week | 05:40 |
| Yagisan | ouch - I hate working that long | 05:41 |
| bmonty | at least I get to fly home tommorrow | 05:41 |
| bmonty | and I got to mess with this stupid hotel's router :) | 05:41 |
| Yagisan | so, where are you now ? | 05:41 |
| bmonty | Idaho | 05:42 |
| Yagisan | I was given a card by the ambulance people last night | 05:42 |
| bmonty | I don't want to take down their network, cause I'm sure their billing system is somehow tied to it, and I don't want to mess up leaving tomorrow morning | 05:43 |
| Yagisan | it says to give it to the *next* ambulance if I get worse | 05:43 |
| Yagisan | I wonder - If I get worse - how will I even remember that I have a card to give them ? | 05:43 |
| bmonty | that is a prime example of why I hope the democrats never succeed in making a government health care system in the US | 05:44 |
| Yagisan | I wish the government here spent some money on health care | 05:47 |
| Yagisan | I was quoted between 5~7 hours waiting time | 05:47 |
| bmonty | damn, that sucks | 05:48 |
| Yagisan | :( | 05:48 |
| bmonty | is there the option to pay a hospital to get faster service? | 05:48 |
| Yagisan | possibly - but I don't have private insurance | 05:48 |
| bmonty | is that common to not have health insurance in australia? | 05:49 |
| Yagisan | if you are under 30, there really is no incentive or reason to have private insurance, although with the current government determined to Americanize everything that may change :( | 05:51 |
| === Yagisan liked my free education, my free healthcare etc | ||
| Kyral | uuuh | 05:52 |
| Kyral | how would someone debianize a Ruby app? | 05:52 |
| bmonty | Yagisan: interesting....I wouldn't go without insurance, but I know people that do | 05:54 |
| bmonty | Kyral: I have no clue, but I would start with looking at a ruby app that is packaged | 05:56 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: considering how much people a taxed in Australia, we have an expectation of timely quality health care. I discovered however that it has gotten much worse since I last needed to use it | 06:00 |
| Yagisan | bmonty: the last time I needed a hospital trip (about 14 years ago) I had about a 20 minute wait as it was non-urgent | 06:01 |
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| === Yagisan needs to lie down | ||
| bmonty | Yagisan: take it easy...I hope you feel better soon | 06:06 |
| Yagisan | thanks bmonty | 06:07 |
| phlaegel | so... any chance of updating python-libgmail? the version in universe now doesn't work at all... v0.1.3.3 from libgmail.sf.net works fine | 06:42 |
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| Slant_Laptop | Is the method of moving from breezy to dapper update/dist-upgrade? | 10:34 |
| Slant_Laptop | Or is there any place with further documentation noted? | 10:34 |
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| Slant_Laptop | That was smooth. | 10:36 |
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| Zomb | hi | 11:54 |
| Zomb | for those who care about... (icewm) - don't pull Sid version 1.2.14-1, it is slightly flawed | 11:54 |
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| zyga | what is the current standards version? | 12:09 |
| siretart | Zomb: thank you very much for your notice. we currently have 1.2.23-3 in dapper | 12:13 |
| Zomb | yeah, freeze it before 1.2.24-2 appears | 12:13 |
| siretart | Zomb: and since we are past UVF (Upstream version freeze), updates have to be requested manually | 12:13 |
| Zomb | ok | 12:14 |
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| ajmitch_ | morning \sh | 12:25 |
| \sh | morning ajmitch | 12:26 |
| \sh | hmm..does anybody see error message in /var/log/{messages,user.log,*} | 12:26 |
| \sh | Jan 29 12:20:05 amd64-home sudo: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_foreground.so) | 12:26 |
| \sh | Jan 29 12:20:05 amd64-home sudo: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_foreground.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] | 12:26 |
| ajmitch_ | \sh: yes | 12:26 |
| \sh | Jan 29 12:20:05 amd64-home sudo: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_foreground.so | 12:26 |
| ajmitch_ | maybe install libpam-foreground | 12:27 |
| ajmitch_ | broken dep somewhere :) | 12:27 |
| \sh | ajmitch: well, it's in the default config | 12:27 |
| \sh | hehe.... | 12:27 |
| === ajmitch_ is trying to get various things on this box working again ;) | ||
| ajmitch_ | sound sort of stopped working | 12:27 |
| \sh | other thing is, that my ssh -X doesn't work anymore (again.the last time I think I had some problems with X) | 12:28 |
| ajmitch_ | pick a developer to blame | 12:28 |
| \sh | hmmm | 12:32 |
| \sh | an 29 12:30:43 amd64-home sshd[5424] : error: Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket. | 12:32 |
| \sh | wtf is this/ | 12:34 |
| \sh | time to file some bugs against ssh and/or pam and/or daniels ;0 | 12:34 |
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| ajmitch_ | \sh: failed creating a socket in /tmp? | 12:37 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: no message about /tmp...only this crap..I'll file a bug | 12:38 |
| ajmitch_ | \sh: strace sshd | 12:39 |
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| \sh | ajmitch_: it's a problem...there is no local monitor connected to the machine I sshd to .. | 12:47 |
| ajmitch_ | aha | 12:48 |
| ajmitch_ | why is that a problem? :) | 12:48 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: I don't want to reboot the machine :) | 12:48 |
| ajmitch_ | reboot? whatever for? :) | 12:49 |
| \sh | ajmitch_: ok...how would you do strace sshd? | 12:49 |
| ajmitch_ | ssh in normally, attach to the process, and then ssh -X | 12:50 |
| ajmitch_ | look for the open() calls or similar | 12:50 |
| \sh | well... | 12:53 |
| \sh | there is not much to see | 12:53 |
| \sh | i'm attaching the the root process of sshd | 12:53 |
| \sh | (which is running as uid root) | 12:53 |
| ajmitch_ | strace -f ? | 12:54 |
| \sh | argl.. | 12:54 |
| \sh | i used strace -p | 12:54 |
| ajmitch_ | well you'd use both I think | 12:54 |
| ajmitch_ | since -f follows forks | 12:54 |
| \sh | yeah....forgot that | 12:54 |
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| \sh | oh damn | 01:07 |
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| \sh | argl | 01:13 |
| \sh | device lo is not setup properly | 01:13 |
| \sh | ifconfig tells me only eth0 is setup | 01:14 |
| \sh | but not the loopback | 01:14 |
| ajmitch_ | ah | 01:15 |
| ajmitch_ | that problem | 01:15 |
| \sh | yep | 01:15 |
| ajmitch_ | I had that yesterday | 01:15 |
| \sh | bug interfaces shows the correct configuration... | 01:16 |
| \sh | auto lo is there.. | 01:16 |
| \sh | lo is set to loopback | 01:16 |
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| ajmitch_ | and /etc/init.d/networking restart fails | 01:16 |
| \sh | you tried it? | 01:17 |
| ajmitch_ | yes, I thought it was just because my box hadn't been upgraded for a few days :) | 01:18 |
| \sh | no..ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 fixes the problem | 01:18 |
| ajmitch_ | I got my interfaces up fine, eventually | 01:18 |
| \sh | 2.6.15-14 kernel | 01:20 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 01:29 |
| hyakuhei | hi phanatic | 01:29 |
| hyakuhei | Im reading through the first motu school, interesting stuff ajmitch_ | 01:32 |
| phanatic | i have a question: there's an old upload of sysinfo on revu (dated october 17th). i have a corrected version of that package, but i'm not the original uploader, and the original uploader didn't reply to my mail... could i upload my version to revu? | 01:52 |
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| === StevenK ponders fixing Malone #3392. | ||
| siretart | StevenK: easy target. Though it would be better if it was fixed in debian | 02:40 |
| siretart | see the http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343236 | 02:41 |
| phanatic | siretart: can i upload a corrected package to revu, if i'm not the original uploader? (no response from him on revu, nor by email) | 02:45 |
| StevenK | siretart: I'm pondering how to fix it. It works with any PHP, so there should be a general way to fix this. | 02:49 |
| StevenK | I can add two depends on phpapi-* (provided by php{4{,-cgi},5{,-cgi}}) | 02:50 |
| === StevenK cackles at his evil bash expansion. | ||
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| StevenK | Which makes the Depends php4 | phpapi-20050606 | phpapi-20041030 | libapache2-mod-suphp | 02:53 |
| StevenK | Uf. | 02:53 |
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| phanatic | hi raphink | 02:59 |
| siretart | phanatic: sure | 02:59 |
| phanatic | siretart: thanks | 02:59 |
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| siretart | StevenK: looks crackful, but I'm not that familar with php issues either.. | 03:01 |
| === StevenK might just have to ask infinity. | ||
| siretart | isn't there a php mailing list somewhere? | 03:02 |
| StevenK | I have no idea. | 03:04 |
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| phanatic | hi raphink, i have a new package for you ;) | 03:16 |
| phanatic | omg | 03:16 |
| phanatic | :) | 03:16 |
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| mrfreeze | hello everybody, slomo are you here ? | 03:21 |
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| zen-pc | Hi there ! | 03:22 |
| mrfreeze | hello zen-pc, are you a motu ? | 03:22 |
| zen-pc | mrfreeze, not yet :) | 03:22 |
| zen-pc | I want to create an ubuntu package for some people here. My package should add entries into gnome menu. Can you explain me how ? | 03:22 |
| mrfreeze | you juste have to writ .desktop files | 03:23 |
| mrfreeze | and put it in /usr/share/applications | 03:23 |
| zen-pc | mmh ok. The software is currently a tar.gz (only binaries). Can I use checkinstall to build the package ? | 03:24 |
| mrfreeze | ... well I do not made an ubuntu package by myself | 03:24 |
| mrfreeze | so I don't know ... I'm only a stupid developer ;) | 03:25 |
| zen-pc | arf :) | 03:25 |
| siretart | zen-pc: to create menu entries, you just need to install a suitable .desktop file in /usr/share/applications. gnome-panel will do the rest | 03:26 |
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| mrfreeze | can't you make a source tarball ? | 03:26 |
| siretart | zen-pc: we don't accept packages made by checkinstall. every package in our archives is built on autobuilders. please try to provide a usable source package. | 03:26 |
| zen-pc | mrfreeze, I can't, the company who did the software didn't release the sources | 03:27 |
| mrfreeze | arf | 03:27 |
| === Zomb wonders, why do people rewrite Debian's new maint guide just to have a "Ubuntu Packaging guide" | ||
| zen-pc | My goal is not to add a package in universe. I just want to create a package for myself and my friends. | 03:28 |
| mrfreeze | so checkinstall should work :) | 03:28 |
| zen-pc | mrfreeze, OK, I'll try | 03:28 |
| zen-pc | thanks for help guys :) | 03:29 |
| mrfreeze | de nada | 03:29 |
| mrfreeze | so, sirestart, you're a motu ? | 03:29 |
| zen-pc | (quit | 03:29 |
| siretart | Zomb: We don't have a document, which describes ubuntu procedures like "what is universe" "what are motus doing" and something like that | 03:29 |
| siretart | Zomb: these topics will be covered by the "Ubuntu Developers Guide", (or however it is called) | 03:30 |
| Zomb | sure, sure, but for the basics part I would just take the new-maint-guide as-is and add another chapter | 03:30 |
| Zomb | but DWYW | 03:30 |
| siretart | Zomb: thats the plan. and to strip off the parts which don't apply to ubuntu. | 03:31 |
| siretart | e.g. we don't have 'testing' or 'experimental' distributions, we don't use debbugs and that stuff | 03:31 |
| Zomb | yep | 03:33 |
| mrfreeze | please, sirestart, you look like a motu, could you help me ? | 03:34 |
| siretart | mrfreeze: depends. what is it? | 03:35 |
| siretart | ;) | 03:35 |
| mrfreeze | well, The packager of my app submitted the sources on revu....de | 03:35 |
| mrfreeze | and it's a long time since nobody checked it :( | 03:36 |
| mrfreeze | whereas I modified the autotool process as slomo asked me last week | 03:36 |
| siretart | mrfreeze: ah. okay. who is your packager? | 03:38 |
| mrfreeze | gloubigoulga | 03:38 |
| siretart | and what application is it? | 03:38 |
| mrfreeze | and the app libswitch & gswitch | 03:38 |
| mrfreeze | upid= 1503 & 1505 | 03:38 |
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| phanatic | siretart, raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1623 | 03:59 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello | 04:01 |
| mrfreeze | hello gloubiboulga | 04:02 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi mrfreeze :) | 04:02 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo_, ping | 04:06 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga | 04:06 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey phanatic :) | 04:06 |
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| siretart | slomo_: around? | 05:27 |
| slomo_ | yes, but somewhat busy now :/ | 05:27 |
| siretart | ok | 05:27 |
| siretart | just wanted to ask if you already imported xine to svn | 05:27 |
| siretart | I can do that myself, if you don't have local changes yet | 05:28 |
| slomo_ | no, i have everything uploaded... thanks :) can you write a mail to elmo about the extracodecs issue? he seems to ignore me... | 05:29 |
| siretart | I think he is really busy with soyuz right now | 05:29 |
| slomo_ | oh ok... is it planned to be launched soon? | 05:30 |
| siretart | slomo_: yesterday evening, fabbione was asked to break it by broken uploads | 05:31 |
| siretart | slomo_: and it was expected to go online this week. | 05:31 |
| slomo_ | oh sounds good :) i'm really curious about it | 05:32 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all ! | 05:45 |
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| zen-pc | hi. | 06:24 |
| zen-pc | I would like to build a simple package from some python scripts. I juste want to create a .deb which copy the file into the correct directory. Which tool should I use ? | 06:24 |
| raphink | zenrox: did you study the New Debian Maintainer's Guide already? | 06:34 |
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| siretart | slomo_: whats the plan with ffmpeg: stay in universe or move to multiverse? | 06:49 |
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| zen-pc | back. Sorry. | 06:52 |
| slomo_ | siretart: universe... too many people are against moving it to multiverse and we would have to move some other packages shipping ffmpeg to multiverse too for consistency reasons... | 06:52 |
| zen-pc | So, I'm asking again. I want to create a simple package which just copy some script into the filesystem. Which tool should I use ? | 06:53 |
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| siretart | zen-pc: you were away too early | 06:54 |
| siretart | zen-pc: I'd use debhelper, see espc. the manpage to dh_install(1) | 06:54 |
| zen-pc | siretart, Yes, I had unplugged the power cable... | 06:55 |
| siretart | slomo_: I'm asking because of malone #6366 | 06:55 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 6366 in ffmpeg "Multiverse Ffmpeg Request" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6366 | 06:55 |
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| slomo_ | siretart: yes, either we have ffmpeg in multiverse or nothing as it's static only... but i don't think you can get it to multiverse *shrug* | 06:57 |
| siretart | slomo_: yes. exactly my point | 06:57 |
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| slomo_ | siretart: do you want to try to get it into multiverse? you have my vote for it but i guess that doesn't help too much ;) | 07:00 |
| siretart | hm. first we'd need to identify all reverse dependencies | 07:00 |
| siretart | including reverse build dependencies | 07:01 |
| slomo_ | i had a list for them some time ago... one moment | 07:01 |
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| slomo_ | gem, gnusound, lynkeos.app, motion, opencv, smilutil, gst-ffmpeg, vlc | 07:02 |
| slomo_ | siretart: your svn commit mails are evil... evolution fills all my ram on the big ones ;) | 07:04 |
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| siretart | slomo_: oh :) | 07:10 |
| siretart | slomo_: I had to approve them anyway. I can discard them the next time | 07:10 |
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| siretart | chninkel_away: I forwarded your drip/glib patch to debian | 07:21 |
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| thierry | how could I get gedit working in my chroot without having to mount --bind my whole /home ? | 09:17 |
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| Kyral | I hate homework lol | 09:30 |
| dredg | i hate lack of motivation | 09:30 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hey slomo | 09:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | slomo, do you think you could have a look at libswicth when you got time? | 09:51 |
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| ajmitch_ | morning all | 11:23 |
| slomo | hi ajmitch_ | 11:25 |
| crimsun | moins | 11:27 |
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| ajmitch_ | hm | 11:42 |
| ajmitch_ | there's a whole bunch of zope stuff that I'd love to get UVF exceptions for | 11:42 |
| ajmitch_ | I just have to think of some justifications | 11:42 |
| crimsun | major bugfixes? :-) | 11:46 |
| ajmitch_ | sadly not ;) | 11:49 |
| ajmitch_ | plenty of minor ones | 11:49 |
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