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spivGood morning.12:16
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kikohello there12:29
kikohow is everyone this fair sunday evening?12:29
AlinuxOSnot very well :)12:30
AlinuxOSkiko, where are you from bro?12:31
kikobad news, so to speak?12:31
kikoI'm from brazil, though I am in london this week12:31
AlinuxOSkiko, I've found that Georgian GNOME translation mantainer is working for microsoft 12:32
AlinuxOS:(((12:32
kikothat's okay, I think12:32
kikoI have good friends that work there12:32
ajmitch_hi kiko 12:32
AlinuxOSand almost nothing is translated in GNOME official site12:32
AlinuxOSI've wrote some mails to him but...no respond...12:33
kikohey ajmitch_ how goes it?12:33
kikoAlinuxOS maybe he's on holidays?12:33
ajmitch_great, enjoying london?12:33
AlinuxOShe don't want to work on...and don't want to give others his place.12:33
AlinuxOSkiko, 8 months?12:33
AlinuxOS:)12:33
ajmitch_sounds like something the gnome guys have to sort out12:34
AlinuxOShe submite hiself when gnome was 2.10 ...now there will be gnome 2.14 but nothing is done :)12:34
kikoajmitch_ it's difficult to really ENJOY london12:34
AlinuxOSI mean, that I have a big quantity of translation of gnome locally on my computer...12:34
kikofor one the weather in this fair city is MISERABLE12:35
AlinuxOSbut can't submit.12:35
ajmitch_kiko: a shame you couldn't be in dunedin for LCA this last week then12:35
AlinuxOSonly on rosetta.12:35
kikothat was indeed a shame12:36
kikobut..12:36
AlinuxOSkiko, so you can understand that things for GNOME georgianisation... are not going in a god way :(12:37
kikosoyuz is the imperative 12:37
kikoAlinuxOS have you considered bringing it up with the gnome folks?12:37
kikothey usually sort this out12:37
AlinuxOSbringing up?12:38
AlinuxOShow?12:38
kikodiscussing?12:38
kikothere are a number of mailing lists AIUI12:38
AlinuxOSnot yet...12:38
AlinuxOSIRC channels?12:38
AlinuxOSmaybe on this server? 12:38
kikoIRC is a bad medium for this sort of thing12:39
AlinuxOSah12:39
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hubhu12:56
hubhi12:56
hubI mistakenly created a project instead of a product12:56
hubhow can I remove the project?12:57
kikohub: mail launchpad-users.12:57
hubok 12:57
hubthx12:57
hubkiko: stupid question: it is a mailing-list?01:00
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kikohub: yes! launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com01:02
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kikoI suspect it is TIME TO SLEEP01:02
hubkiko: good night then01:03
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hubit is only 7PM here01:03
hub:-/01:03
siretarthm. launchpad-users is not on gmane :(01:20
mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!01:30
mptsiretart, request it then01:30
ajmitch_afternoon mpt 01:31
ajmitch_you haven't come down sick after LCA?01:32
mptnope, but I wasn't at the dinner01:39
mptGeorgianisation? That's such a cool word.01:39
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kokeit's strange but I can't open launchpad.net with safari, it says something about the secure connection but it's not very verbose :(01:41
ajmitch_mpt: I thought you might be interested in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12263201:42
ajmitch_koke: certificate issues?01:43
mptkoke, we've had one other person reporting that problem, but neither of the Launchpad developers who use Safari can reproduce it01:46
mptajmitch_, joy01:56
kokeif anyone knows how to get more detail...01:57
kokeit's safari 1.3.2, the panther one02:01
kokegoing to sleep, see you02:01
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mptweird, 1.3.2 is the version I have02:14
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Give importd user DELETE access to RevisionNumber table (r3046)06:48
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SteveAlifeless: ping07:46
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lifelesspong07:51
mpt_hi SteveA 08:01
mptSteveA, will you have time for a voip call sometime soon?08:07
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sivangmorning all08:38
SteveAmpt: sure08:43
SteveAmpt: about 15 mins?08:43
mptsure08:44
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SteveAmpt: i'm ready09:01
SteveAmpt: internet gone down?09:13
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BurgundaviaSteveA, I was chatting with him in -desktop and he appears to have dropped off there as well09:15
SteveAthanks BjornT 09:16
SteveAthanks Burgundavia 09:16
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mptstu1, ping09:23
stubmpt: pong09:24
mptSteveA, still there?09:24
SteveAmpt: yes09:24
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mptsorry SteveA, skype and IRC died while the Web was still working09:24
mptvery curious09:24
mptstub, nm, SteveA has mailed you09:25
SteveAmpt: excuse me09:34
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jordihello dudes09:44
ajmitchmorning jordi 09:45
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jordiSo, SteveA, carlos will be online whenever he finds some internet link09:49
jordihis is not working09:49
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lifelessback09:53
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lifelessSteveA: meeting time10:01
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jordikiko10:22
kikomorning jordi 10:23
kikoSteveA?10:23
kikohey stub 10:23
SteveAhi kiko10:23
SteveAstill in the uk?10:23
kikowhere's Kinnison?10:23
kikoenjoying the weather, SteveA 10:23
SteveAit's almost warm here now10:23
jordiI sent two activity reports10:24
jordiIt feels good10:24
stubkiko: hi10:24
kikohow's it going10:24
jordikiko, SteveA: regarding what we talked about adding the names of the products I import in my reports.10:24
stubfuzzy :)10:24
kikojordi, yeah?10:24
jordiWith the new queue, it's a bit difficult to keep track. Having a log of hwat happened would be cool.10:25
jordido we have something like that?10:25
kikoa log of the new queue?10:26
kikostub, can you set up a launchpad tree on prat.ubuntu.com for the gina run?10:26
kikoor perhaps we should10:26
kikowe need to be able to a) run gina and b) run the publisher -- this against production -- so I need to plan this out a bit.10:27
stubprat? 10:28
kikoI think it's easiest to run gina using rocketfuel tip10:28
kikostub, it's a new box.10:28
kikoshould we #canonical-meeting to explain this, stub, SteveA?10:29
SteveAi'm in a meeting with ddaa and lifeless right now10:29
kikookay10:29
kikoI'll privmsg stub10:29
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kikomdz! mdz_!10:45
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lifelessis jamesh around ?11:22
SteveAnot yet11:23
SteveAstill traveling back from lca i think11:23
lifelessah11:23
lifelesscould be it11:23
lifelessI seeking a re-review on the story tests work11:23
lifelessI finally got back to it11:23
lifelessand its now beautifully isolating the standalone tests without making them into one blob11:24
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lifelesskiko: you are in a sprint right ?11:49
kikoyes11:49
lifelesswho else is htere that is a reviewer? and when do they become avaiable again ?11:50
kikonobody.11:50
kikooh, you mean "there" as in "out there in the world"?11:50
lifelessat the sprint11:50
kikothere are no reviewers here at the sprint apart from me.11:50
lifelessok11:50
kikojamesh was at LCA.11:50
lifelesswhen do you become available for reviews again ? I'm updating your wiki-section of the pending reviews page for you11:51
kikonot in the near future.11:51
lifeless2 weeks ? a month ? indefinately ?11:51
kikothe latter.11:51
lifelessthanks11:52
lifelessit just avoids confusion about where its all at if its up to date11:52
lifelessspiv: if you are around, my story branch needs a once over11:53
lifelessspiv: it was semi-conditionally approved by jamesh, but I had to make non trivial incremental changes in order to correct the standalone defect.11:54
lifelessreviewer meeting time12:03
lifelessall present emote 12:03
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lifelesshahaha12:03
lifelessOOPS-30B23512:03
lifelessthe link to login on that page is to12:04
lifelesshttp://localhost:9030/people/lifeless/+assignedbugs/+login12:04
lifelessSCORE12:04
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Fix bracket handling bug in text search (Bug #29828 (r3047: Stuart Bishop)12:04
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lifelesssweet12:07
lifelesswe're it12:07
lifelessagenda is empty12:07
lifelessI've just allocated out reviews12:07
lifelesskiko is not reviewing for the indefinite future, so without de machine we'll need to pickup the load a little12:08
spivI'm here.12:10
BjornTyeah. lifeless: mabye you'll have time to review my SupportTrackerTweaks branch soon? it's been unreviewed for quite a while now.12:10
lifelessBjornT: yes indeed I do12:11
spivlifeless: I can give your story branch a once over, but it'll have to wait until tomorrow if that's ok.12:11
lifelessBjornT: I spent last week over-focused on bzr while martin was away12:11
lifelessBjornT: this week I'm all about lp12:11
BjornTcool12:11
SteveAhere12:11
lifelessspiv: thats fine12:11
lifelessspiv: I'm just keen to land it ;)12:12
lifelessspiv: also, your stop on first failure patch - can you dig that up ?12:12
spivlifeless: Ok, I'll dig that up tomorrow too.12:13
lifelessand dont forget to email me the branches you want merged12:13
lifeless /joined12:13
lifelesswhatever12:13
lifelessok, any new business ?12:13
BjornTno12:14
lifelesshow do you guys feel the 'branches are assigned to people' process is working out ?12:14
spivFrom this reviewer's perspective, it's working well.12:16
BjornTwell, i feel i review a lot less than i used to. not sure if that's a good or bad thing :)12:16
spivI feel like I've been doing more ;)12:17
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lifelessI might reformat the page 12:18
spivBut my reviewing load has always seemed a bit variable, so I don't think the new process is necessarily a difference there.12:18
lifelessto be easier for me to manage - I may be not balancing it greatly12:18
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lifelessok, well meeting over then12:20
lifelessthanks!12:20
lifelessI'll do minutes tomorrow, I have an early start tomorrow12:20
lifelessnight all12:21
spivG'night.12:21
kikohello salgado 12:21
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kikoguess where we still are?12:22
salgadoyo kiko12:22
salgadojdahlin told me yesterday that you guys are going to stay a few more days...12:23
kikothat's the plan12:23
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matsubaragood morning!12:32
elegantbasuramorning12:33
kikostub?12:40
sivanghey matsubara :)12:42
stubkiko: ?12:48
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kikostub!12:57
kikostub, two things12:57
kikoa) do you have a suggestion on what user the package removal tool elmo wrote should be run as?12:57
kikob) where is the logging directory for launchpad stuff defined?12:58
stubb) launchpad.conf12:58
stuba) I would need to know more about the tool and who is to use it12:59
kikoa) it basically writes to the publishing table12:59
kikob) where in launchpad.conf?01:00
stubIs it a command line tool? is it a twisted app? is elmo the only one to use it? Does it need configuration?01:02
stubaccesslog and eventlog directives in launchpad.conf01:02
stuboh... you asked db user...01:03
stubA new user should be defined in security.cfg with minimal permissions required, and the tool connects as that user01:03
kikoit is a command line tool01:06
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pmjdebruijnhi01:12
pmjdebruijnRosetta has finished exporting your requested files.01:12
pmjdebruijnHowever, problems were encountered exporting the01:12
pmjdebruijnfollowing files: {nl|fr}.po01:12
pmjdebruijnis there anything I can do about that?01:20
kikopmjdebruijn, carlos and jordi are your points of contact01:21
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kikoSteveA, can you handle cvd's request?01:28
SteveAkiko: people at the sprint?01:28
SteveAi can do that01:29
kikoyes. thank you vm01:29
AlinuxOShello :)01:30
AlinuxOScarlos, jordi when is previsted dapper rosetta translation?01:31
pmjdebruijnkiko, I have replied to the mail as instructed, but I've received no replies as of yet01:32
kikowhere is carlos?01:33
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jbaileyWhat's the best way to get an upstream bugzilla added to the tracker?01:41
kikojbailey, just go and add it yourself at +bugtrackers?01:42
jbaileyAh, cool, I didn't know about +bugtrackers.01:42
jbaileyIs it something that can be found through navigation, or is it a magic cookie?01:43
jbaileyhttps://launchpad.net/+bugtrackers <-- 40401:43
kikohttps://launchpad.net/malone/bugtrackers/01:43
kikosorry.01:43
jbaileyLovely, thanks!01:43
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jordipmjdebruijn: I saw your mail. I think carlos can help you there, I have no access to those files AFAIK.02:18
jordipmjdebruijn: carlos is having network issues this morning, otherwise he would be online now02:18
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kiko-fudbradb, how's it going?03:33
kikoI have a special request for you03:33
kikolisting bugs filed in other products in a product's project.03:37
kikowhen you do searches.03:37
kikothat would help me out immensely with launchpad03:37
kiko:)03:37
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elmotwo random bzr questions: 1) why is log so painfully slow?, 2) what do blank LHSs mean on annotate?04:09
kikoelmo, that's a good set of #bzr questions!04:10
elmooh, nm, help explains (2)04:10
elmokiko: feh04:10
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jordi15:37 < kiko> :)04:17
jordi15:37  * kiko tries the smiley-trick04:17
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seb128jordi: when are you going to fix gnome-python dude04:21
bradbkiko: hi, just got back from catching up on some sleep04:23
kikook04:23
bradbMaybe I should open a bug on that?04:24
kikothere must be one already04:24
bradbbug 558404:25
jordiseb128: I thought you would04:25
Ubugtumalone bug 5584 in malone "Project bugs page needs implementing" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/558404:25
kikonot sure that's the one, but ok, great.04:26
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kikosalgado-lunch, are you still working on the vocabs changes?04:40
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salgadokiko, I've finished and it's up for review, but it seems I have some test failures 05:28
kikotest failures of the world unite05:28
salgadowill check what failed now05:28
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pmjdebruijnjordi, ah hi, sorry I was gone back then...06:41
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jordipmjdebruijn: hey07:03
pmjdebruijnjordi, I've also just uploaded a new .pot (wrapped in a .tar.gz), but it's not appearing in Rosetta07:07
pmjdebruijnjordi, it only has a few minor additions07:07
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jordilet me have a look07:13
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pmjdebruijnjordi, my project is called 'Corbicula'07:14
jordipmjdebruijn: why does your name ring a very loud bell?07:14
jordipmjdebruijn: I guess we exchanged email when I imported corbicula07:15
pmjdebruijnjordi, I've emailed with you before07:15
jordiaha07:15
pmjdebruijnjordi, you also did Corbicula's Catalan translation, (thanks again for that :))07:17
jordiI did? Oh my :D07:17
jordipmjdebruijn: I just approved your pot07:17
jordias it was a new appearance with the new system, it had to go through admin edit07:18
pmjdebruijnoh cool, the older translations are kept ;)07:18
pmjdebruijnjordi, anyway, Rosetta has been a real boon, for smaller project like I have :)07:19
pmjdebruijnjordi, thanks07:19
jordiof course they are kept07:20
jordiit'd be madness if not :)07:20
pmjdebruijnhehe, right...07:21
jordihmm you haev a string that hardcodes the version07:22
jordiyou should make that one dynamic07:22
jordiuse the VERSION define from automake07:22
jordierr autoconf07:22
jordipmjdebruijn: also, you list the transaltor credits in a string07:24
pmjdebruijnjordi, well my project isn't autotooled yet07:24
jordiwhat we nromally do is have a "translator-credits" strings, which people translate07:24
pmjdebruijnjordi, it's on my TODO list07:24
jordioh07:24
jordiok07:24
pmjdebruijnbut it's not a priority right now07:24
jordianyway, Catalan up to date again :)07:24
pmjdebruijnoh cool, thankyou07:24
pmjdebruijnjordi, I still seriously need to read up on autotools...07:26
pmjdebruijnmaking a debian/ubuntu package is a priority right now07:27
jordipmjdebruijn: if you autotoolize, creating a .deb is a piece of cake07:28
jordidoyou have a static makefile now?07:29
pmjdebruijnjordi, well autotools aren't nesseccarry for making a .deb right? the Makefile is most essential right?07:30
pmjdebruijnjordi, yeah, it's static right now07:30
jordiyes07:30
pmjdebruijnjordi, Rosetta has finished exporting your requested files.07:31
pmjdebruijnHowever, problems were encountered exporting the07:31
pmjdebruijnfollowing files: {nl|fr}.po07:31
jordihrm07:32
jordiare they included at all?07:32
jordican you file a big?07:32
jordia bug07:32
pmjdebruijnjordi, no they're not included at all07:34
jordicool, hrm07:35
pmjdebruijnhmm searching malone for bugs seems to oops malone07:36
pmjdebruijnOOPS-30D46707:36
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jordiwoops07:36
jordibradb is your Malone commander07:37
jordipmjdebruijn: I just tried to individally request those two files to see07:37
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bradbpmjdebruijn: hm, our OOPS report finder seems to be broken, atm. What URL is causing you the error?07:38
Kinnisonbradb: It can take up to ten minutes for the OOPS to turn up in our viewing interface07:39
bradbah07:39
jbaileyIs there a standard syntax for closing Malone bugs that we ought to be using in our changelogs?07:39
bradbjbailey: Not yet.07:40
Keybukjbailey: "OOPS-1291B"07:40
bradbheh07:40
pmjdebruijnbradb, hmm damn, now it works :s07:40
pmjdebruijnbradb, I might have used a slightly different search string, I'm not sure07:40
bradbpmjdebruijn: It might have been an ephemeral performance problem.07:40
jbaileypmjdebruijn: Did the OOPS say "timeout" at the top of the page? 07:40
bradbLaunchpad is very ephemeral in nature.07:41
pmjdebruijnbradb, https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bugs?field.searchtext=problems+were+encountered+exporting+the%0D%0Afollowing+files&search=Search&orderby=-priority%2C-severity07:41
Keybukbradb: "here today, gone tomorrow" ?07:41
pmjdebruijnbradb, I think the line-end made it oops07:41
bradb:)07:41
pmjdebruijnbradb, I did a copy-paste from a multi-line email07:41
bradbinteresting07:41
Kinnisonjbailey: Nothing as yet07:41
bradbpmjdebruijn: I'll report a bug, thanks.07:42
jbaileybradb, Kinnison: Thanks07:42
pmjdebruijnjordi, https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/3008607:43
Ubugtumalone bug 30086 in rosetta "Problems were encountered exporting the following files" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  07:43
bradbjbailey: btw, bug 203707:45
Ubugtumalone bug 2037 in malone "feature request: closing via changelog" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/203707:45
jordipmjdebruijn: I got the erorrs as well07:45
jordipmjdebruijn: thanks for filing07:45
pmjdebruijnjordi, my pleasure, please let me know if I need to add anything...07:46
jordiok07:46
bradbpmjdebruijn: I filed bug 30087, if you're interested.07:50
Ubugtumalone bug 30087 in malone "A search that includes newline chars cause search to bomb" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3008707:50
pmjdebruijnbradb, ah cool07:50
pmjdebruijnhmm berlios doet ook alleen cvs?07:51
pmjdebruijnwhoops, sorry07:51
pmjdebruijnjordi, is there any way to obtain the nl.po translations in the short term?07:54
niemeyerclass PublicToAllOrPrivateToExplicitSubscribersForBugTask(AuthorizationBase):07:55
niemeyerWow :)07:55
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pmjdebruijnniemeyer, that's a work of art :)07:56
bradbI might have named that one :P07:56
zygadarn07:56
zygano carlos07:56
jordipmjdebruijn: not sure. Carlos should know, but is having network trouble :(08:01
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jordioi hannosch 08:02
hannoschhi jordi08:02
jordipmjdebruijn: it seems both files have broken encoding08:04
jordipmjdebruijn: de bestanden zijn ge\xefnfecteerd met een virus, deze bestanden vormen "\n"wellicht een bedreiging voor uw systeem of dat van iemand anders. Selecteer "\n"de ge\xefnfecteerde bestanden die u verwijderen wil:"'08:08
jordipmjdebruijn: try to edit that string08:08
jbaileybradb: Yeah, I was just hoping that there was already some agreed upon format like "(Malone: 1234)" or something that you already had speced out for parsing in changelog and bzr log entires.08:09
jbaileybradb: I figured I may as well get used to doing it the way the automatic parsers will eventually want me to.08:09
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pmjdebruijnjordi, okay, but the translations are correct, those should be e's with dots on them08:17
jordipmjdebruijn: probably, you have a PO header that claims it's ISO-8859-1, while the content is UTF-808:17
jordiCarlos is telling me he'll fix so in this case, the file is exported as UTF-808:18
pmjdebruijnjordi, thanks again08:22
niemeyerSteveA: ping08:25
SteveAhi08:25
niemeyerSteveA: Hiho!08:25
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sivang_hey all08:56
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sivangmatsubara: hi09:06
sivangmatsubara: "Fix Commited" == Closed , speaking of https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/28768 09:06
Ubugtumalone bug 28768 in launchpad ""Search for Products" on the "Welcome to Launchpad" page does nothing." [Normal,Fix committed]  09:06
matsubarasivang: hello. yep, that one is fixed. 09:10
matsubarasivang: I was just waiting to get it on production, so I can close it. :)09:10
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=kiko]  Cleanup query generation in bpr.{find,get}ByPackageName. (r3048: James Troup)09:24
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kikorock on elmo09:24
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KinnisonUmm, FYI guys, we have a publisher running against production, if we get interesting timeouts then we need to think about locking levels10:11
bradbKinnison: Does this mean Dapper is on Soyuz?10:13
KinnisonNo10:14
sivangmatsubara: ok cool10:43
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kikoahoy there11:14
kikoSteveA, are you still around?11:14
sivanghey kiko 11:14
sivangkiko: am testing RFS at last, wish me luck :)11:14
kikoheh11:14
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sivangjblack: ping, you still around ?11:26
sivangyay, it's running11:58
sivanganyway, I'll cotninue without IRC open. night all12:01

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