[12:11] <LaserJock> hi doc people!
[01:45] <Burgundavia> is it possible to change me password to the svn repo?
[01:58] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: I was wondering that as well
[01:59] <Burgundavia> evidentally not
[01:59] <Burgundavia> you know, not having a phone is a major annoyance
[02:01] <LaserJock> I bet
[02:02] <Burgundavia> my landlord is selling his house and Telus (the bastards) decided to cut off the phone three days ago
[02:06] <LaserJock> that's not right
[02:08] <Burgundavia> this is the same company that took 15 days to reconnect a phone after a move and is widely considered by largely evil and incompetent
[02:09] <Burgundavia> they got investigated for having 2000 complaints to the CRTC (telecom watchdog) in a 4 month span
[02:10] <Burgundavia> ever seen the film "The Corporation", about how evil corporations are and must be? Telus goes beyond that
[02:12] <LaserJock> lol
[02:12] <LaserJock> well, not really
[04:58] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot 
[04:59] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia
[04:59] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot 
[04:59] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: found a place yet?
[04:59] <Burgundavia> yep
[04:59] <Burgundavia> only $312
[04:59] <Madpilot> cool, nice deal. Where, and do you need a hand moving sometime this week?
[05:00] <Burgundavia> I need a hand next Sunday, if you are free
[05:01] <Madpilot> Sundays work. 
[05:01] <Burgundavia> what about next Sat?
[05:01] <Madpilot> I'm free this coming Saturday too, I think
[05:02] <Burgundavia> ok, the 4th it is
[05:02] <Madpilot> My shifts at Central keep getting swapped between Monday & Saturday, which is an irritation
[05:02] <Burgundavia> ugh
[05:02] <Burgundavia> I love how much personal chatter goes on in this channel
[05:02] <Madpilot> last weekend I had a three day weekend, but I worked Saturday & tomorrow...
[05:03] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, how bad is the spam load to -doc?
[05:03] <Madpilot> wow, mdke must have spent the entire weekend bughunting & doing docteam-svn commits...
[05:03] <jsgotangco> not that much
[05:03] <jsgotangco> around 30+ a day
[05:04] <Burgundavia> -users is about twice that
[05:32] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: did you figure out the svn password thing? I would imagine elmo would have to be the one to change it
[05:34] <Burgundavia> LaserJock, nah, I am not going to worry about it
[05:35] <bhuvan> LaserJock, why would you want to change the password ?
[05:38] <LaserJock> bhuvan: it's hard to remeber?
[05:38] <LaserJock> remember
[06:21] <bhuvan> LaserJock, true. but, it is depend on svn client you use. what's your svn client ?
[06:26] <Madpilot> that'll be a lengthy run of svn up...
[06:38] <LaserJock> bhuvan: client? svn
[06:40] <bhuvan> LaserJock, if so it will remember for you, isnt it ?
[06:40] <LaserJock> right, but if I need to check it out again somwhere else I have to dig up the email that has the password. Not a problem but it does bring up the lack of control we have with the repo
[06:41] <bhuvan> you are correct. but, to checkout we dont require our password. to commit, yes.
[06:42] <bhuvan> LaserJock, yep, you are trying to address different problem anyway!
[06:42] <LaserJock> yeah, Burgundavia just asked and I was just wondering too
[06:44] <bhuvan> bshumate, ping
[06:45] <mpt_> mdke or anyone, how do I stop getting mail about ubuntu-docs bugs?
[06:45] <mpt_> I'm not sure why I'm getting them
[06:46] <LaserJock> mpt_: probably because you are a member of the docteam LP team?
[07:02] <LaserJock> is the building of the html for doc.ubuntu.com from the svn repo automatic (like cron job)?
[07:02] <bhuvan> LaserJock, yes
[07:02] <LaserJock> do you know what time it does it?
[07:03] <bhuvan> LaserJock, i know it is done every day. but not sure about the time
[07:14] <jsgotangco> i used to ahve access to that server but i lost my account credentials
[07:16] <LaserJock> whay to go jsgotangco ;-) just kidding
[07:21] <LaserJock> jeffsch: ping?
[07:45] <robotgeek> LaserJock: hey
[07:47] <robotgeek> wow, my first useful email to the list needs moderation :)
[07:49] <LaserJock> hi robotgeek 
[07:49] <LaserJock> really?
[07:49] <robotgeek> i apparently sent a too large an email
[07:49] <LaserJock> oops
[07:49] <robotgeek> i sent 5 patches in one email
[07:50] <jeffsch> LaserJock: pong
[07:50] <robotgeek> jeffsch: i saw your email regarding kde documentation, feel free to move it to en
[07:51] <LaserJock> jeffsch: I was looking at your email as well
[07:51] <jeffsch> :)
[07:51] <LaserJock> jeffsch: I was wondering what packaging you were needing? just somebody to try to package a fresh checkout?
[07:52] <jeffsch> it needs to be put into a .deb and registered with scrollkeeper and tested to see what else (if anything) needs to be done to get it to work
[07:56] <LaserJock> hmm, I'm not familiar enough with the packaging to do that very fast (I gotta get to bed soon).
[07:58] <jeffsch> me too, and I won't have time until friday
[07:58] <jeffsch> tuesday at the earliest
[07:59] <LaserJock> well, I can take a look in the morning and/or I can get dholbach to take a look
[08:00] <jeffsch> that would be nice :)
[08:00] <jeffsch> the more eyes the better
[08:00] <crimsun> which mailing list?
[08:00] <LaserJock> -doc
[08:01] <robotgeek> howdy crimsun 
[08:01] <LaserJock> crimsun: oh, then you missed out on the mdke bug spamathon ;-)
[08:01] <jsgotangco> let me fix that
[08:01] <robotgeek> i got the most emails i've gotten in a day
[08:01] <robotgeek> i also subscribed to the commits list :)
[08:02] <crimsun> oh trust me, that still doesn't top when I was subbed to lkml, bugtraq, and debian-devel
[08:02] <crimsun> poor mailhost exploded
[08:02] <LaserJock> ouch
[08:02] <jsgotangco> yeah
[08:03] <robotgeek> my mail host is gmail :)
[08:03] <LaserJock> hmm, I also need to ask dholbach about the debian/copyright file
[08:04] <jsgotangco> you can ask enrico as well when he's around and not busy
[08:04] <jsgotangco> he's whitelisted anyways
[08:04] <crimsun> I get about 200 per day now, which is fairly manageable
[08:05] <jsgotangco> i only read what interests me
[08:05] <LaserJock> that's about what I get I think. Over Christmas I was at my in-laws and parent and both had 28.8 dialup. It was painful to read mail
[08:33] <mpt> painful to *read* it, or to download it?
[08:49] <mdke> mpt, they go to the mailing list
[08:50] <mpt> mdke, so leaving the Launchpad ubuntu-doc team wouldn't help?
[08:50] <mpt> rats
[08:50] <mpt> I'll set up a filter then :-)
[08:50] <mdke> mpt, we might want to consider a separate list I guess
[08:51] <jsgotangco> let's just forward all bugs to mdke :D
[08:51] <mpt> or just badger BjornT into implementing ProductSubscriptions
[08:52] <mpt> and ProjectSubscriptions
[08:52] <jsgotangco> oh he's been doing it?
[08:52] <mpt> no, that's the problem :-)
[08:58] <mdke> jeffsch, debian/install is the only file that needs to be changed for testing "en". just replace C with en
[08:58] <mdke> (for those guides where you have implemented en)
[08:59] <mdke> then to build, just do "debuild" in the trunk directory (with devscripts installed)
[08:59] <robotgeek> hey mdke 
[08:59] <mdke> mornin
[08:59] <mdke> just going for a shower
[09:00] <robotgeek> i got an email about some "size too big" should i resend individually?
[09:00] <jsgotangco> sorry if i'm ignoring list queues or patches; i'm currently moving data from brisbane to LA :/
[09:01] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: hmm, okay. i'll assume that i don't need to resend my email then :)
[09:01] <jsgotangco> if its too big, then you'll have to resend it
[09:01] <robotgeek> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
[09:01] <jsgotangco> oh
[09:01] <robotgeek> anyways, i'll just resend it
[09:01] <jsgotangco> hold on
[09:01] <jsgotangco> let me check first
[09:01] <robotgeek> okay
[09:02] <jsgotangco> how big are the attachments?
[09:02] <jsgotangco> there's nothing on queue
[09:02] <jsgotangco> i've already approved your last email
[09:02] <jsgotangco> the one with 4 or 5 patches
[09:02] <robotgeek> yeah, that one. cool
[09:05] <robotgeek> i signed the files, is that going to affect anything?
[09:06] <robotgeek> cause i don't see the attachments on the mailing list
[09:08] <mdke> mpt, actually ideally I suppose the first email for a bug would go to the list, then none of the subsequent ones
[09:09] <mdke> robotgeek, i see them
[09:09] <mdke> 5 attachments
[09:10] <robotgeek> mdke: cool
[09:10] <robotgeek> alrite then, i'm off to bed :)
[09:35] <bhuvan> mdke, ping
[10:02] <mdke> bhuvan, pong
[10:02] <bhuvan> mdke: shall i go ahead with s/(Desktop) Starter Guide/$1 Guide/gc
[10:03] <mdke> bhuvan, sure go ahead.
[10:03] <bhuvan> mdke, ok
[10:04] <jsgotangco> you should say "yes dear leader!"
[10:04] <mdke> :(
[10:04] <mdke> bhuvan, don't worry about the "en" version for now, I think
[10:04] <mdke> just change the C version
[10:05] <bhuvan> mdke, ok
[10:05] <jsgotangco> !
[10:23] <mdke> can't get the damn "en" package working
[11:52] <mdke> bhuvan, oy, we'll need that script. Don't worry, I'll get it from the desktopguide version
[11:53] <jsgPC> mdke, nice so shaunm prefers to keep C
[11:53] <mdke> yeah
[11:54] <jsgPC> might as well abide by it
[11:54] <jsgPC> it makes good ground for further research though
[11:55] <mdke> it think you're right
[11:55] <mdke> s/it/i
[01:10] <bhuvan> mdke, ok. why do we need that script btw ?
[01:17] <mdke> bhuvan, it deals with translations
[01:18] <bhuvan> mdke, ok
[01:20] <bhuvan> mdke: i wish to discuss about list of server guide authors now if you have time
[01:21] <bhuvan> mdke: i wish to include bshumate in list of contributors. till now his contribution is significant
[01:21] <mdke> bhuvan, absolutely.
[01:21] <mdke> all contributors should be in there
[01:22] <bhuvan> mdke: all significant contributors imo!
[01:22] <mdke> heh
[01:22] <mdke> it's the license that counts
[01:22] <mdke> but yeah, more or less the same thing
[01:23] <bhuvan> ok. i also prefer to remove robert stoffers from the list as havnt contributed to server guide
[01:24] <mdke> didn't he contribute to the sections which were taken from the faqguide?
[01:24] <bhuvan> no idea. if he have contributed to faqguide, sure i must retain then
[01:25] <mdke> the faqguide was largely his work
[01:25] <bhuvan> cool
[01:25] <bhuvan> fine, as i joined after breezy i am unaware. i'll retain, thanks
[01:26] <mdke> np, nice work on adding more sections btw
[01:27] <bhuvan> ok, imo i have almost covered all possible sections
[01:27] <bhuvan> we have covered atleast 80% i guess
[01:28] <bhuvan> looking forward for contributions on "help wanted" sections
[01:28] <bhuvan> btw, as someone suggested during a ccm, i have planned to request fabbione to have a look and get his valuable feedbacks/corrections/additions if any
[01:30] <mdke> excellent idea
[03:55] <jsgotangco> who the heck is editing my timetable page
[05:40] <robotgeek> hey jjesse , the preview should work now
[05:41] <robotgeek> kkathman and i are working on the desktop guide
[11:15] <mhz_translatin> any one here could make sure my english is well written (369 word for a small article about edubuntu) ?
[11:16] <robotgeek_work> sure, i can proofread
[11:16] <mhz_translatin> thx robotgeek_work 
[11:16] <mhz_translatin> I'll provide a wiki url for you
[11:16] <robotgeek_work> cool
[11:20] <mhz_translatin> robotgeek_work: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/MauricioHernandez/ScrapBook/ArticleForJuliux
[11:20] <mhz_translatin> I appreciate your effort
[11:20] <mhz_translatin> and help
[11:21] <robotgeek_work> mhz_translatin: sure, no problem
[11:21] <mhz_translatin> +e
[11:35] <robotgeek_work> mhz_translatin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7789
[11:37] <robotgeek_work> mhz_translatin: also it might be good to rephrase "When we say Edubuntu is a system, we are indeed talking about a set of over 90 applications shipped with Edubuntu so they become integrated inside the educational curriculum at different academic levels, ages and skills." not to use first person speech
[11:37] <robotgeek_work> damn, long paste . sorry
[11:53] <robotgeek_work> mhz_translatin: http://robotgeek.org/wiki/Main/Temp i've rewritten showing yours and mine
[12:00] <mhz_translatin> robotgeek: re