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| LaserJock | hi MOTU land! | 12:08 |
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| ajmitch_ | hi LaserJock, Hobbsee | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch_ | 12:08 |
| Hobbsee | hi LaserJock | 12:08 |
| LaserJock | hiya ajmitch_ and Hobbsee | 12:09 |
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| dredg | do my job. i'd love a day or 3 off | 12:11 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 12:14 |
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| LaserJock | darn it, vnc isn't working for me again | 12:21 |
| psusi | http://pastebin.com/529583 < WTF?! there is no error, everything is going fine then make ups and decides to bail out | 12:22 |
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| siretart | yay, ekiga in dapper! | 12:25 |
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| hub | anyone know how to delete a project from Launchpad? | 12:55 |
| hub | I mistakenly created one | 12:55 |
| ajmitch_ | ask #launchpad | 12:56 |
| hub | right | 12:56 |
| ajmitch_ | it probably needs deleted by an admin | 12:56 |
| LaserJock | any aptitude experts around? | 12:59 |
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| raphink | psusi: I believe the error happened before the part you pasted | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | how can I get aptitude to not try to fix broken packages and forget and selections of made in the past? | 01:03 |
| raphink | why do you use aptitude? :p | 01:03 |
| raphink | if you want to control your installations, use apt-get ;) | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | well, it is easier to move around in aptitude, but it's totally messed up right now | 01:04 |
| psusi | raphink, doesn't look like it... the last gcc called looks to have completed successfully... as do all those before it | 01:04 |
| psusi | then make says there's nothing to be done, and THEN decides there's an error | 01:05 |
| raphink | weird | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | argh, how can you do a complete removal (--purge) after you've done an apt-get remove | 01:08 |
| crimsun | apt-get --purge remove foo | 01:09 |
| crimsun | or aptitude purge foo | 01:09 |
| crimsun | or dpkg -P foo, if you're desperate | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | hmm, apt-get --purge remove foo says foo is already removed and my aptitude is screwed up | 01:10 |
| crimsun | then dpkg -P it is | 01:11 |
| crimsun | though how you got to that point... | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | well, I'm just trying to get tightvnc to work | 01:13 |
| LaserJock | so I wanted to reinstall it but also get rid of the config files | 01:13 |
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| crimsun | I presume the last-ditch effort was successful? | 01:15 |
| LaserJock | yes | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | darn it, it still doesn't work. I shouldn't have rebooted | 01:18 |
| crimsun | pixie dust | 01:20 |
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| LaserJock | and I've got a poster due tomorrow >:( | 01:21 |
| crimsun | g'luck w/ that | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | lol, thanks | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | I guess I should just spend more time in the lab | 01:25 |
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| LaserJock | how would I get a clean /etc/ssh/sshd_config file? | 02:23 |
| crimsun | cf. line 198- of /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst | 02:27 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: hmm, could I delete the sshd_config file and run the posinst script? | 02:30 |
| crimsun | you could, but it's better just to copy the relevant section from /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | doh, crimsun you're amazing | 02:33 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I have finally narrowed down the ssh server on problem to my Ubuntu box is not doing X forwarding right | 02:45 |
| ajmitch_ | LaserJock: is the interface lo up & has 127.0.0.1 assigned? | 02:46 |
| LaserJock | ohhh, just a sec | 02:48 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch_: how would I do that (from CLI)? | 02:49 |
| ajmitch_ | ifconfig | 02:50 |
| LaserJock | hmm, not working. I do ifconfig up lo ? | 02:52 |
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| ajmitch_ | ifup lo | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I get "/etc/network/interfaces:23: interface eth0 declared allow-auto twice | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" | 02:54 |
| ajmitch_ | right | 02:55 |
| ajmitch_ | so it's that bug | 02:55 |
| ajmitch_ | edit /etc/network/interfaces | 02:55 |
| ajmitch_ | there'll be a duplicate 'auto lo' line | 02:55 |
| ajmitch_ | well | 02:55 |
| ajmitch_ | auto eth0 | 02:55 |
| LaserJock | got it. dang it, I've been beating my head against this for over a day | 02:56 |
| ajmitch_ | :) | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | I feel pretty stupid | 02:57 |
| ajmitch_ | nah | 02:57 |
| ajmitch_ | it's not obvious | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | well, when I rebooted my computer I had to manually activate eth0 so I guess I should've figured that lo wouldn't have been working | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | live and learn I guess :-) | 02:58 |
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| thinkle | For my application, I want to run a script to export any old data using the old version before upgrading to a newer version. In other words,I want the new version to run a script that relies on the presence of the old version (if it is present) before installing. Is this possible using standard deb magic? | 03:20 |
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| ajmitch | yes, but is the data stored in users' home directories? | 03:21 |
| thinkle | ajmitch: Yes, alas. | 03:22 |
| ajmitch | ah | 03:22 |
| ajmitch | then it has to be done when the user runs the program, rather than install time | 03:22 |
| thinkle | ajmitch: That's bad news, I'm afraid. | 03:23 |
| thinkle | ajmitch: Makes sense though. I assume it's rather bad form for a pre-installation script to try to become all the users on a system to check for data. | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | yes, that is rather evil | 03:25 |
| thinkle | ajmitch: This is very ugly... I was hoping to work around having to build in support to import all old formats of DBs by simply building installation scripts that automatically exported necessary data into a format all versions could read. | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: is Debian's NEW queue usually as slow as it is right now? | 03:27 |
| ajmitch | nope | 03:27 |
| ajmitch | it's usually faster | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | thinkle: yes, that's a problem with a number of programs | 03:28 |
| thinkle | ajmitch: I'd imagined as much... I was hoping there was a standard packaging work-around. | 03:29 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: ok, I thought so (I've had my first Debian package on there for 2 weeks). I'm getting kinda anxious | 03:29 |
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| LaserJock_ | hi minghua | 04:36 |
| minghua | LaserJock_: hi | 04:37 |
| minghua | LaserJock: how are things going? | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | minghua: ok, working on a poster for a conference Wednesday :( | 04:43 |
| minghua | LaserJock: hey, attending conference is not that bad ;-) | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | well, honesty I'd rather be working on Ubuntu stuff | 04:44 |
| jsgotangco | minghua, happy new year | 04:46 |
| minghua | hehe, that's more fun, I suppose. but still, ubuntu can't give you a degree | 04:46 |
| minghua | jsgotangco: hi, thanks. happy new year to you | 04:46 |
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| marcin` | hello MOTU | 05:33 |
| marcin` | got short question - I would like to prepare package for web application | 05:33 |
| marcin` | that uses LAMP | 05:34 |
| marcin` | and I would like to know if wwwconfig-common package has any documentation | 05:34 |
| marcin` | and if wwwconfig-common is something preferred to use with webapp package | 05:35 |
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| LaserJock | minghua: have you had a chance to look into bug stuff for MOTU Science? | 07:28 |
| minghua_ | LaserJock: not yet, but I plan to do soon | 07:29 |
| minghua_ | I've been busy the past week too | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | minghua_: np, I just forget so I thought I would ask | 07:30 |
| minghua_ | LaserJock: yeah, it's good to know others' progress :-) | 07:31 |
| LaserJock | I've been working on a poster for a conference so I haven't been able to do much MOTUScience work | 07:32 |
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| LaserJock | hi raphink | 07:36 |
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| Gloubiboulga | morning | 09:19 |
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| zakame | hmmm, I'm beginning to think SDL is the culprit for abuse-sdl, holotz-castle bugs... | 10:07 |
| jsgotangco | slay it! | 10:07 |
| ajmitch | hey zakame, jsgotangco | 10:07 |
| jsgotangco | hey ajmitch how was LCA? | 10:08 |
| zakame | heya ajmitch :) | 10:08 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: it was excellent | 10:08 |
| ajmitch | very impressive | 10:08 |
| ajmitch | I enjoyed it more than the last one I was at | 10:08 |
| ajmitch | partly because I understood a lot more :) | 10:08 |
| jsgotangco | and it solidifies the fact that NZ is the other AU state? | 10:08 |
| StevenK | Heh | 10:08 |
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| ajmitch | or that .au is just west island | 10:09 |
| === StevenK kicks ajmitch. | ||
| ajmitch | :) | 10:09 |
| StevenK | I resent that. | 10:09 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 10:09 |
| ajmitch | you can handle it :) | 10:09 |
| StevenK | Wanna bet? | 10:09 |
| === StevenK breaks down and cries. | ||
| StevenK | :-) | 10:09 |
| ajmitch | as long as you don't lose your hair over it | 10:09 |
| zakame | haha | 10:10 |
| StevenK | Mmm, Rusty's pornstar mo is gone. | 10:10 |
| ajmitch | yeah, he almost looks respectable now | 10:10 |
| StevenK | Heh | 10:10 |
| StevenK | And Jeff looks crazy. | 10:10 |
| ajmitch | crazier | 10:10 |
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| ajmitch | there were a lot of good talks this year | 10:11 |
| ajmitch | your turn next :) | 10:12 |
| StevenK | Mmm. LCA in Sydney is good, since I just need to take a week off. :-) | 10:12 |
| ajmitch | yeah, I was unemployed anyway ;) | 10:12 |
| ajmitch | < 10 minute walk to uni | 10:12 |
| StevenK | If it's the same time, I don't have to worry about uni either. | 10:12 |
| ajmitch | I don't think they have settled on a date yet | 10:13 |
| StevenK | Last status is state "idle" (backup done) as of 1/30 20:10. | 10:13 |
| StevenK | Finally. | 10:13 |
| ajmitch | I'd like to visit sydney again | 10:13 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: I might be in brisbane in a few days | 10:13 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch: when would that be | 10:14 |
| StevenK | Sydney's not that good. :-P | 10:14 |
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| StevenK | blase, even. | 10:15 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: maybe at the end of this week, for 2-3 weeks | 10:17 |
| ajmitch | doing some work over there | 10:17 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch: im in manila at the moment i won't be there till end of feb | 10:17 |
| ajmitch | ah right | 10:17 |
| jsgotangco | :/ | 10:17 |
| ajmitch | so I'll be back in NZ by then, I think | 10:17 |
| jsgotangco | my trips have been frequent lately but short | 10:18 |
| ajmitch | if I'm unlucky I might end up back there later in the year, too | 10:18 |
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| ajmitch | StevenK: I can do that easily | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | I just have to use more than 10GB in a month :) | 10:33 |
| === StevenK has two torrents and a download going. | ||
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| ajmitch | hey dholbach | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: how's london? | 10:33 |
| dholbach | hey ajmitch | 10:33 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: The whole 'rate-limit after xGb' pisses me off. | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: I might switch ISP soon to one that allows 30GB or so | 10:34 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: fine, thanks | 10:34 |
| ajmitch | of course, the rate limiting thing is nasty | 10:34 |
| StevenK | I reach my limit (currently 16Gb), and I get charged at $3/Gb. | 10:34 |
| zakame | hi dholbach | 10:34 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: on another ISP I could have 10GB & then $10 per 10GB over | 10:34 |
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| StevenK | And downloads between 1am -> 10am aren't counted. | 10:34 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: what does the week hold for you? lots & lots of hacking? | 10:34 |
| StevenK | So, 'at 1am wget .....' | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | hey doko | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: I wish I had that | 10:35 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: first a new gnome | 10:35 |
| dholbach | :-) | 10:35 |
| dholbach | how are you? | 10:35 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: I've downloaded 80Gb in one month. And I paid $1.50 extra. | 10:35 |
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| ajmitch | dholbach: I'm good, had a fun week last week with LCA :) | 10:37 |
| ajmitch | morning ogra | 10:37 |
| dholbach | nice | 10:37 |
| ogra | heya ajmitch | 10:37 |
| StevenK | Muahah, a twisted bug is assigned to MOTU, and twisted is in main. | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: sounds like a bug for doko then :) | 10:38 |
| dholbach | StevenK: i can prod doko - he's sitting at the next table :) | 10:40 |
| dholbach | StevenK: just CC him on the bug. | 10:40 |
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| ajmitch | or one of us can look at it, what's the bug # ? | 10:40 |
| StevenK | Ahh, dholbach is at the sprint. | 10:41 |
| StevenK | #3444 | 10:41 |
| dholbach | :-) | 10:41 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: all the distro team is, afaik | 10:42 |
| StevenK | Ah | 10:42 |
| ajmitch | so instead of the usual ubuntu conference, this is a whip-cracking week for the canonical employees ;) | 10:42 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, that's why we brought janew along. :-P | 10:43 |
| Mithrandir | (for the whip-cracking, I mean) | 10:43 |
| jsgotangco | probably good if its cold in london | 10:43 |
| zakame | hehe | 10:44 |
| StevenK | Ugh, another bug about depending on php5 | 10:47 |
| ajmitch | yay | 10:47 |
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| ajmitch | but that may require slapping upstream around some | 10:48 |
| ajmitch | which is no real problem, since I'm supposed to be doing those patches upstream :) | 10:49 |
| ajmitch | and the main developer was here for LCA last week | 10:49 |
| StevenK | As was Rasmus, right? :-) | 10:49 |
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| ajmitch | StevenK: sure, but I mean the phpgw developer | 10:49 |
| ajmitch | I didn't go to rasmus' talk this time | 10:50 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: I know. | 10:50 |
| jsgotangco | rasmus is always in LCA | 10:50 |
| ajmitch | though I'm sure it was interesting :) | 10:50 |
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| StevenK | (Malone #4078) | 10:50 |
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| ajmitch | StevenK: hm? what's wrong with that? | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | apart from that it should be assigned to motumergers | 10:52 |
| StevenK | It's still open. | 10:52 |
| ajmitch | ah well | 10:52 |
| ajmitch | I have to close a bunch of my merge bugs also :) | 10:53 |
| ajmitch | Mithrandir: users are such fun, aren't they? | 10:57 |
| Mithrandir | ajmitch: #d-d, you mean? | 10:57 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 10:58 |
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| Hobbsee | is anyone else having masses of trouble with the dapper networking not starting properly on boot? | 01:04 |
| Gloubiboulga | Hobbsee, I haven't | 01:05 |
| Hobbsee | Gloubiboulga: right | 01:06 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, if you're relying on n-m or have not upgraded it from breezy - then yes | 01:06 |
| Mez | I believe dapper is relying on n-m atm for networking stuff mainly | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | n-m? I installed flight 1, and upgraded from there | 01:06 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, thats probably why | 01:07 |
| Mez | Network Manager | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | right | 01:07 |
| Mez | I think thedispatcher daemon is broken at the mo | 01:07 |
| \sh | loopback wasn't setup properly somehow yesterday.. | 01:07 |
| \sh | (without n-m) | 01:07 |
| \sh | with n-m everything is fine here. | 01:07 |
| Mez | weird: I know my n-m has been having sporadic problems - I assumed it was that | 01:08 |
| Mez | and that it was falling back on the networking stuff I have left over from breezy | 01:08 |
| Mez | I know it doesnt like my wireless card now | 01:08 |
| \sh | Mez: my amd64 is not running with n-m, and /etc/network/interfaces looks quite ok...but it doesn't setup my networking devices properly. eth0 is not dhcpclient-ized neither loopback is setup properly somehow...on my laptop with n-m everything is fine. | 01:09 |
| Mez | ah - ok then :D | 01:10 |
| Mez | lol | 01:10 |
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| \sh | and me needs an ack/nack for uvf exception for wine 0.9.6 | 01:14 |
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| StevenK | \sh: Is that for the Real Life Upstream 0.9.6? | 01:33 |
| \sh | StevenK: yepp | 01:33 |
| \sh | StevenK: packages are ready for deployment :) | 01:34 |
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| pef | hello | 01:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | salut pef | 01:36 |
| pef | Gloubiboulga: salut, tout se passe bien ? ;) | 01:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | pef, yep :) | 01:37 |
| pef | why uqm-4 isn't synced from Debian/unstable ? in Dapper we have uqm-content-4 and uqm-3 I cannot find uqm-4 in bd logs | 01:37 |
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| zakame | magandang gabi | 01:45 |
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| siretart | dholbach: when running ekiga, I get this error: | 02:45 |
| siretart | ekiga: error while loading shared libraries: libopal.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 02:45 |
| siretart | dholbach: known bug or shall I report via malone? | 02:45 |
| siretart | ah, never mind. this is malone 29195 | 02:50 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29195 in gnomemeeting "Include Ekiga in Ubuntu" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29195 | 02:50 |
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| zakame | wb dholbach | 03:18 |
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| \sh | grmpf...i need to write another uvf exception report | 03:30 |
| zakame | hmm, during breezy's uvf, how many exception reports were made? | 03:31 |
| \sh | zakame: no reports..only for main | 03:31 |
| zakame | ah | 03:32 |
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| \sh | bah..jabberd2 s10 has to be included for dapper | 03:35 |
| \sh | s8 is broken like hell..and s9 as well | 03:35 |
| zakame | waah!!! | 03:37 |
| \sh | dholbach: you forgot to include wine in your report :) | 03:39 |
| \sh | dholbach: (20th of Jan) | 03:40 |
| \sh | dholbach: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-January/000192.html | 03:40 |
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| TomaszD | hello. I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I found out that SoundConverter is outdated in Dapper Universe. According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/sound/soundconverter the version in dapper is 0.8.1. The newest is 0.8.3 http://soundconverter.berlios.de/ . Is anyone here responsible for pushing new versions into Dapper Universe? | 05:06 |
| dholbach | yes | 05:07 |
| TomaszD | ok, so it's just a hint for whoever takes care of it :) | 05:07 |
| dholbach | we're in upstream version freeze (uvf), i have the changes prepared locally, filed a uvf exception request, will have to mail it to release manager | 05:07 |
| TomaszD | dholbach, so already took care of it? | 05:09 |
| TomaszD | *so you | 05:09 |
| dholbach | It's not uploaded yet, because I need approval for a UVF exception. | 05:09 |
| TomaszD | ok. | 05:09 |
| dholbach | and I need to mail the release manager (among 243697246 other things I have to do). :-) | 05:09 |
| dholbach | But I'll take care of it. | 05:09 |
| TomaszD | ok cool. | 05:09 |
| TomaszD | also, after over a year, Psi 0.10 has been released. The version in Dapper is 0.9.3, same as was in Breezy. I'd be very glad if someone took care of it as well. | 05:10 |
| TomaszD | these are my only gripes as far as universe goes :) | 05:11 |
| dholbach | Yes, you should read ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com | 05:11 |
| dholbach | psi is taken care of too | 05:11 |
| TomaszD | ok. I see it's just a matter of time then. | 05:12 |
| dholbach | Yeah. :) | 05:12 |
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| TomaszD | are there many exceptions made to the uvf? I mean, is there a chance in hell both of these apps will be updated? | 05:16 |
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| Apoll013 | Sorry if being OT, but I've got a problem with hotplug not uploading firmware to my DVB-Card... wiki, google #ubuntu, #ubuntu-de didn't get me further. Some more ideas? | 05:30 |
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| dholbach | Could you all do me a favour and review and reply to waiting UVF approval requests? | 06:14 |
| dholbach | I'll have a look at them later, but it's easier if somebody has flicked through it already and I can push them to Matt and Colin. | 06:14 |
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| raphink | siretart: you there? | 06:52 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 06:53 |
| raphink | hi phanatic | 06:54 |
| phanatic | raphink: i'd like to ask you to have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1623 please... | 06:56 |
| raphink | siretart: ping | 06:56 |
| raphink | hehe I'm gonna test my new tool on you then phanatic ;) | 06:57 |
| phanatic | raphink: is it autorevu, or what? ;) | 06:58 |
| raphink | it's just a small tool to generate some reports on the tarballs ;) | 06:58 |
| lucas | raphink: have you thought about integrating it with lintian or linda ? | 07:00 |
| lucas | (/me jumping in the discussion) | 07:00 |
| raphink | yes I have thought about it | 07:00 |
| raphink | but not right now | 07:00 |
| raphink | it's not very stable | 07:01 |
| raphink | and it's just a small bash script | 07:01 |
| raphink | I have a pb with it atm | 07:01 |
| raphink | trying to find out what it is | 07:01 |
| phanatic | sounds interesting :) | 07:02 |
| raphink | hehe fixexdc | 07:04 |
| raphink | fixed | 07:04 |
| raphink | now it worked :) | 07:04 |
| raphink | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1623 | 07:04 |
| raphink | it adds three stuff : | 07:04 |
| raphink | tarballs.md5 115 Bytes | 07:04 |
| raphink | extracted_tarballs DIR | 07:05 |
| raphink | upstream_orig.diff 0 Bytes | 07:05 |
| raphink | I still have to get the upstream tarball manually | 07:05 |
| raphink | which is quite logical | 07:05 |
| raphink | but it helps cause any reviewer can check that the md5 and the diff -ru are fine in one click :=) | 07:05 |
| raphink | well 2 in total :) | 07:05 |
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| phanatic | :) | 07:08 |
| raphink | I'm not sure keeping the extracted tarball is helpful, but I'm keeping it so far | 07:09 |
| raphink | phanatic: can you add a Homepage entry to the long Description in debian/control please? | 07:11 |
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| phanatic | oh, forgot :( | 07:14 |
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| phanatic | raphink: uploaded | 07:18 |
| raphink | ok | 07:18 |
| raphink | wait | 07:19 |
| phanatic | raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1626 | 07:21 |
| raphink | yes wait ;) | 07:22 |
| raphink | you can correct the other comment, too ;) | 07:22 |
| raphink | while I'm working on some stuff | 07:22 |
| raphink | then i'll look at it again | 07:22 |
| phanatic | i cannot clean that one, because that's in the orig.tar.gz | 07:23 |
| phanatic | shall i touch that? | 07:23 |
| raphink | ah! | 07:23 |
| raphink | you can remove it in debian/rules I guess | 07:23 |
| raphink | so it's clean in the end ;) | 07:24 |
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| phanatic | okay... while testing i added rm -f ... but it screamed anyway :) | 07:24 |
| raphink | yes but you have to add it | 07:25 |
| phanatic | ok | 07:25 |
| raphink | as said by lintian | 07:25 |
| raphink | it will keep screaming but it'll be clean ;) | 07:25 |
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| phanatic | raphink: done, upped... | 07:27 |
| raphink | ok wait | 07:28 |
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| phanatic | raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1628 | 07:32 |
| raphink | wait | 07:32 |
| phanatic | ok | 07:32 |
| phanatic | :) | 07:32 |
| raphink | hmmpf | 07:35 |
| raphink | stupid me | 07:35 |
| raphink | nm ;) | 07:35 |
| raphink | there's no dapper chroot in dapper :s | 07:36 |
| raphink | I mean | 07:36 |
| raphink | dapper chroot on tiber | 07:36 |
| raphink | i'm getting tired I guess | 07:36 |
| raphink | lol | 07:36 |
| phanatic | :) | 07:36 |
| phanatic | sorry, i have to go... don't want to miss the bus :) | 07:36 |
| phanatic | i hope everything is alright | 07:37 |
| raphink | ok | 07:37 |
| raphink | later | 07:37 |
| phanatic | if not, i'll correct it tomorrow | 07:37 |
| phanatic | bye | 07:37 |
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| raphink | siretart: ping | 07:39 |
| siretart | raphink: pong. whassup? | 07:53 |
| raphink | hey siretart :) | 07:53 |
| raphink | well I just made a small tool I'm using on tiber and i wanted your opinion on it :) | 07:54 |
| raphink | it's /home/raphink/revu-orig | 07:54 |
| raphink | it generates a few files | 07:54 |
| raphink | makes it easier to check the md5sum or the diff -ru between the upstream and orig tarball ) | 07:55 |
| raphink | I tested it on a few packages already | 07:55 |
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| raphink | like http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1615 | 07:55 |
| raphink | :) | 07:55 |
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| siretart | raphink: looks useful. do you think this is something which should be done unconditionally on every upload? | 07:58 |
| raphink | siretart: well the only thing is that I need to get the upstream tarball manually | 08:03 |
| raphink | siretart: so it can be done as soon as you have it ;) | 08:03 |
| raphink | the hard part is getting it | 08:03 |
| raphink | even grepping the package (like debian/copyright for example) doesn't give you enough infos to make the download automatic | 08:03 |
| raphink | siretart: I think if you like it it could be added to /usr/local/bin though, so other reviewers can run it | 08:04 |
| raphink | ;) | 08:04 |
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| raphink | siretart: it shouldn' tbe added to revu-build since it doesn't meet the same requirements | 08:04 |
| raphink | revu-builds runs on the dsc, whereas revu-orig runs on the upstream tarball | 08:04 |
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| raphink | siretart: so it's up to you, just keeping you informed of it :) | 08:06 |
| ajmitch | morning | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 08:15 |
| tseng | hi ajmitch | 08:15 |
| SloMoSnail | hi ajmitch | 08:17 |
| siretart | raphink: I'm really busy right now. it could be run as 'revu hook' | 08:19 |
| siretart | raphink: would you like to commit your script to the revu1 svn? | 08:20 |
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| bur[n] er | anyone know what package gnome-mouse-properties is in? | 08:53 |
| azeem | bur[n] er: packages.ubuntu.com | 08:54 |
| bur[n] er | azeem: i did apt-cache search gnome-mouse to no avail | 08:54 |
| tseng | dpkg -S `which gnome-mouse-properties | 08:54 |
| ajmitch | gnome-control-center: /usr/bin/gnome-mouse-properties | 08:54 |
| tseng | ajmitch: yay for enablers | 08:54 |
| ajmitch | :P | 08:54 |
| ajmitch | I shouldn't encourage them | 08:54 |
| bur[n] er | thanks ajmitch and tseng, that's a neat dpkg trick I never knew! | 08:55 |
| sivang_ | hi all | 08:55 |
| tseng | between dpkg, apt, and grep-dctrl | 08:56 |
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| tseng | you can find anything | 08:56 |
| bur[n] er | with that dpkg command, I think that's the missing piece | 08:56 |
| bur[n] er | thanks, adios | 08:56 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, Debian NEW is up to 199 packages :( | 09:05 |
| slomo | and 100 of them are new X11? | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | not 100, maybe 20 | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I get ~28 X11 packages | 09:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | sources under BSD license can be included in Ubuntu ? | 09:11 |
| tseng | yes, of course | 09:11 |
| Gloubiboulga | tseng, thanks, I wasn't sure | 09:11 |
| Kyral | hey all | 09:11 |
| LaserJock | hi Kyral | 09:11 |
| Kyral | yea! *hugs whoever Tomboy's maintainer is* | 09:13 |
| tseng | eh? | 09:14 |
| tseng | myself and then dave beckett adopted it | 09:14 |
| Kyral | ty for including the watchfile | 09:15 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: uh why? | 09:15 |
| Kyral | Since there is a new version out after the UVF all I have to do it sourceget it from apt and run uupdate to compile the new one for myself :D | 09:15 |
| tseng | thats useful | 09:16 |
| ajmitch | and it would have been a great challenge to do it without a watch file? | 09:16 |
| Kyral | ajmitch: No, but it makes it easier and you gotta admit easier is good :D | 09:17 |
| ajmitch | not when it breaks things | 09:17 |
| Kyral | yah, btu I know how to handle myself | 09:17 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: but not how to type ;-) | 09:19 |
| Kyral | ..bah | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: how's the packaging going these days? FlowDesigner still a no go? | 09:21 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: yah | 09:23 |
| Kyral | and right now I'm focusing on School | 09:23 |
| Kyral | I have an Exam on Thursday lol | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | well study hard, I've got a poster I have to finish today :( | 09:24 |
| Kyral | hhe | 09:24 |
| Kyral | Yah...as soon as Flight 4 comes out I'll have to start working on the Install Guide | 09:24 |
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| LaserJock | yeah, and I got to get the Packaging Guide in shape before String Freeze | 09:25 |
| Kyral | When is that? | 09:25 |
| LaserJock | March 16th | 09:25 |
| Kyral | ah okay so I have time :D | 09:26 |
| LaserJock | depends on how much you have to do | 09:27 |
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| raphink | siretart: sorry I was away... would you like me to commit this script to the svn ? | 10:23 |
| raphink | LaserJock: don't hesitate pinging me anytime about the Packaging Guide ;) | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | raphink: well, I filled out the outline with skeleton sections last night. Doesn't look like it has hit doc.ubuntu.com, but when it does you can see sections that need to be done ;-) | 10:24 |
| siretart | raphink: sure. | 10:24 |
| raphink | siretart: how do I do that? | 10:25 |
| raphink | LaserJock: i'll be happy to write for it, if you can correct my english afterwards ;) | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | raphink: I'd like to do a little section on packaging for Kubuntu so you might be a help out there | 10:25 |
| siretart | raphink: you are already in the 'revu' group, the svn is on tiber in /srv/svn/revu | 10:25 |
| raphink | LaserJock: sure, there are some specific points indeed | 10:25 |
| siretart | raphink: do a svn co svn+ssh://tiber.tauware.de/srv/svn/revu on your machine | 10:25 |
| raphink | let's see | 10:27 |
| raphink | hmm doesn't seem to do anything :s | 10:29 |
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| raphink | oh yes now it does :) | 10:29 |
| raphink | siretart: revu-build is not in the svn? | 10:29 |
| siretart | raphink: I'll get an email on commit with your diff and commit changelog | 10:30 |
| siretart | raphink: no, not yet. I should have included it, you are right | 10:30 |
| siretart | I rather focus on revu2 | 10:30 |
| raphink | yes | 10:30 |
| raphink | do you want me to commit revu-build, too? | 10:30 |
| raphink | I don't know how to commit to the svn though :s | 10:31 |
| raphink | this is a point where I really lack knowledge today | 10:31 |
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| GURT | How can i find a repository with wxPython 2.6.1.x or higher? | 10:38 |
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| crimsun | 'python-wxgtk2.6' is in dapper/universe | 10:39 |
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| raphink | let's see if I understood how to use svn ... | 10:53 |
| GURT | crimsun: can i use packages from dapper/universe in breezy? | 10:54 |
| raphink | siretart: I can't commit my changes :s | 10:55 |
| crimsun | GURT: if you recompile them in a Breezy pbuilder, sure | 10:56 |
| GURT | oi | 10:57 |
| GURT | i don't know what that means heh | 10:57 |
| azeem | GURT: maybe you should ask in #ubuntu | 10:58 |
| siretart | raphink: use svn add <file> to add files to your working copy, and then 'svn commit' to commit your changes | 10:59 |
| GURT | yeah. thanks anyhow :) | 10:59 |
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| lucas | somebody has any merge reviews pending ? | 11:15 |
| sebest_ | hello | 11:19 |
| minghua | lucas: it would be nice if you can review bug 29724 | 11:21 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29724 in xfonts-mona "xfonts-mona installs font to wrong directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29724 | 11:21 |
| minghua | lucas: I looked at the debdiff and think it's good, but I've not built or tested it myself yet | 11:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm going to have to go through the science packages and figure out what we can merge/sync according to the list we have 58 outdated packages in Ubuntu | 11:27 |
| minghua | oh really, we are so behind now? | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | minghua: well it is after UVF | 11:29 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: you'll have to provide good reasons for UVF exceptions | 11:29 |
| lucas | minghua: regarding #29724, we should see whether there's a better solution than fixing all packages | 11:31 |
| lucas | I'm not familiar with X fonts packaging | 11:31 |
| lucas | wow, 58 ... | 11:31 |
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| minghua | lucas: no problem, I've done an X font package merging before, and I'll test this one then look for an MOTU | 11:34 |
| minghua | ajmitch: but sync from debian with same upstream version but new debian revision is still allowed (no need for exception request), right? | 11:35 |
| lucas | minghua: right | 11:35 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: it's not UVF exceptions I'm looking at but merges/syncs we can do without an exceptions | 11:47 |
| siretart | I don't want that a shell script abort on errors | 11:53 |
| siretart | should I use set +e or set -e? | 11:53 |
| LaserJock | ok, I counted 32 out of the 58 oudated MOTUScience packages could be merged/synced without UVF exceptions | 11:55 |
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| minghua | siretart: set +e, I believe. | 11:58 |
| siretart | ok | 11:59 |
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