=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:08] hi MOTU land! [12:08] hi LaserJock, Hobbsee [12:08] hey ajmitch_ [12:08] hi LaserJock [12:09] hiya ajmitch_ and Hobbsee === Hobbsee is looking for something to do in a few days time [12:11] do my job. i'd love a day or 3 off [12:14] hehe === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.93.78] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] darn it, vnc isn't working for me again [12:22] http://pastebin.com/529583 < WTF?! there is no error, everything is going fine then make ups and decides to bail out === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa97.3.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] yay, ekiga in dapper! === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lguerra [n=lguerra@201.236.214.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-10.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] anyone know how to delete a project from Launchpad? [12:55] I mistakenly created one [12:56] ask #launchpad [12:56] right [12:56] it probably needs deleted by an admin [12:59] any aptitude experts around? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] psusi: I believe the error happened before the part you pasted [01:03] how can I get aptitude to not try to fix broken packages and forget and selections of made in the past? [01:03] why do you use aptitude? :p [01:03] if you want to control your installations, use apt-get ;) [01:04] well, it is easier to move around in aptitude, but it's totally messed up right now [01:04] raphink, doesn't look like it... the last gcc called looks to have completed successfully... as do all those before it [01:05] then make says there's nothing to be done, and THEN decides there's an error [01:05] weird [01:08] argh, how can you do a complete removal (--purge) after you've done an apt-get remove [01:09] apt-get --purge remove foo [01:09] or aptitude purge foo [01:09] or dpkg -P foo, if you're desperate [01:10] hmm, apt-get --purge remove foo says foo is already removed and my aptitude is screwed up [01:11] then dpkg -P it is [01:11] though how you got to that point... [01:13] well, I'm just trying to get tightvnc to work [01:13] so I wanted to reinstall it but also get rid of the config files === torkel_ [i=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-147-229.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] I presume the last-ditch effort was successful? [01:17] yes [01:18] darn it, it still doesn't work. I shouldn't have rebooted [01:20] pixie dust === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] and I've got a poster due tomorrow >:( [01:21] g'luck w/ that [01:22] lol, thanks [01:25] I guess I should just spend more time in the lab === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=niall@83-70-46-48.b-ras1.prp.dublin.eircom.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [02:23] how would I get a clean /etc/ssh/sshd_config file? [02:27] cf. line 198- of /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst [02:30] crimsun: hmm, could I delete the sshd_config file and run the posinst script? [02:31] you could, but it's better just to copy the relevant section from /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst [02:33] doh, crimsun you're amazing [02:45] hmm, I have finally narrowed down the ssh server on problem to my Ubuntu box is not doing X forwarding right [02:46] LaserJock: is the interface lo up & has 127.0.0.1 assigned? [02:48] ohhh, just a sec [02:49] ajmitch_: how would I do that (from CLI)? [02:50] ifconfig [02:52] hmm, not working. I do ifconfig up lo ? === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] ifup lo [02:54] hmm, I get "/etc/network/interfaces:23: interface eth0 declared allow-auto twice [02:54] ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" [02:55] right [02:55] so it's that bug [02:55] edit /etc/network/interfaces [02:55] there'll be a duplicate 'auto lo' line [02:55] well [02:55] auto eth0 [02:56] got it. dang it, I've been beating my head against this for over a day [02:57] :) [02:57] I feel pretty stupid [02:57] nah [02:57] it's not obvious [02:58] well, when I rebooted my computer I had to manually activate eth0 so I guess I should've figured that lo wouldn't have been working [02:58] live and learn I guess :-) === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F966.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thinkle [n=tom@c-65-96-154-14.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] For my application, I want to run a script to export any old data using the old version before upgrading to a newer version. In other words,I want the new version to run a script that relies on the presence of the old version (if it is present) before installing. Is this possible using standard deb magic? === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:21] yes, but is the data stored in users' home directories? [03:22] ajmitch: Yes, alas. [03:22] ah [03:22] then it has to be done when the user runs the program, rather than install time [03:23] ajmitch: That's bad news, I'm afraid. [03:24] ajmitch: Makes sense though. I assume it's rather bad form for a pre-installation script to try to become all the users on a system to check for data. [03:25] yes, that is rather evil [03:27] ajmitch: This is very ugly... I was hoping to work around having to build in support to import all old formats of DBs by simply building installation scripts that automatically exported necessary data into a format all versions could read. [03:27] ajmitch: is Debian's NEW queue usually as slow as it is right now? [03:27] nope [03:28] it's usually faster [03:28] thinkle: yes, that's a problem with a number of programs [03:29] ajmitch: I'd imagined as much... I was hoping there was a standard packaging work-around. [03:29] ajmitch: ok, I thought so (I've had my first Debian package on there for 2 weeks). I'm getting kinda anxious === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-11-87.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] hi minghua [04:37] LaserJock_: hi [04:41] LaserJock: how are things going? [04:43] minghua: ok, working on a poster for a conference Wednesday :( [04:44] LaserJock: hey, attending conference is not that bad ;-) [04:44] well, honesty I'd rather be working on Ubuntu stuff [04:46] minghua, happy new year [04:46] hehe, that's more fun, I suppose. but still, ubuntu can't give you a degree [04:46] jsgotangco: hi, thanks. happy new year to you === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] hello MOTU [05:33] got short question - I would like to prepare package for web application [05:34] that uses LAMP [05:34] and I would like to know if wwwconfig-common package has any documentation [05:35] and if wwwconfig-common is something preferred to use with webapp package === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua_ [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:28] minghua: have you had a chance to look into bug stuff for MOTU Science? [07:29] LaserJock: not yet, but I plan to do soon [07:29] I've been busy the past week too [07:30] minghua_: np, I just forget so I thought I would ask [07:31] LaserJock: yeah, it's good to know others' progress :-) [07:32] I've been working on a poster for a conference so I haven't been able to do much MOTUScience work === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] hi raphink === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.61.222] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] morning === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-87-8.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.80.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-160.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] hmmm, I'm beginning to think SDL is the culprit for abuse-sdl, holotz-castle bugs... [10:07] slay it! [10:07] hey zakame, jsgotangco [10:08] hey ajmitch how was LCA? [10:08] heya ajmitch :) [10:08] jsgotangco: it was excellent [10:08] very impressive [10:08] I enjoyed it more than the last one I was at [10:08] partly because I understood a lot more :) [10:08] and it solidifies the fact that NZ is the other AU state? [10:08] Heh === jsgotangco hides [10:09] or that .au is just west island === StevenK kicks ajmitch. [10:09] :) [10:09] I resent that. [10:09] lol [10:09] you can handle it :) [10:09] Wanna bet? === StevenK breaks down and cries. [10:09] :-) [10:09] as long as you don't lose your hair over it [10:10] haha [10:10] Mmm, Rusty's pornstar mo is gone. [10:10] yeah, he almost looks respectable now [10:10] Heh [10:10] And Jeff looks crazy. [10:10] crazier === StevenK nods. [10:11] there were a lot of good talks this year [10:12] your turn next :) [10:12] Mmm. LCA in Sydney is good, since I just need to take a week off. :-) [10:12] yeah, I was unemployed anyway ;) [10:12] < 10 minute walk to uni [10:12] If it's the same time, I don't have to worry about uni either. [10:13] I don't think they have settled on a date yet [10:13] Last status is state "idle" (backup done) as of 1/30 20:10. [10:13] Finally. [10:13] I'd like to visit sydney again [10:13] jsgotangco: I might be in brisbane in a few days [10:14] ajmitch: when would that be [10:14] Sydney's not that good. :-P === StevenK is so blaise. [10:15] blase, even. [10:17] jsgotangco: maybe at the end of this week, for 2-3 weeks [10:17] doing some work over there [10:17] ajmitch: im in manila at the moment i won't be there till end of feb [10:17] ah right [10:17] :/ [10:17] so I'll be back in NZ by then, I think [10:18] my trips have been frequent lately but short [10:18] if I'm unlucky I might end up back there later in the year, too === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK watches his downstream link choke. [10:33] StevenK: I can do that easily [10:33] I just have to use more than 10GB in a month :) === StevenK has two torrents and a download going. === dholbach [n=daniel@82.109.136.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] hey dholbach [10:33] dholbach: how's london? [10:33] hey ajmitch [10:33] ajmitch: The whole 'rate-limit after xGb' pisses me off. [10:34] StevenK: I might switch ISP soon to one that allows 30GB or so [10:34] ajmitch: fine, thanks [10:34] of course, the rate limiting thing is nasty [10:34] I reach my limit (currently 16Gb), and I get charged at $3/Gb. [10:34] hi dholbach [10:34] StevenK: on another ISP I could have 10GB & then $10 per 10GB over === doko [n=doko@82.109.136.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] And downloads between 1am -> 10am aren't counted. [10:34] dholbach: what does the week hold for you? lots & lots of hacking? [10:35] So, 'at 1am wget .....' [10:35] hey doko [10:35] StevenK: I wish I had that [10:35] ajmitch: first a new gnome [10:35] :-) [10:35] how are you? [10:35] ajmitch: I've downloaded 80Gb in one month. And I paid $1.50 extra. === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] dholbach: I'm good, had a fun week last week with LCA :) [10:37] morning ogra [10:37] nice [10:37] heya ajmitch [10:38] Muahah, a twisted bug is assigned to MOTU, and twisted is in main. [10:38] StevenK: sounds like a bug for doko then :) [10:40] StevenK: i can prod doko - he's sitting at the next table :) [10:40] StevenK: just CC him on the bug. === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:40] or one of us can look at it, what's the bug # ? [10:41] Ahh, dholbach is at the sprint. [10:41] #3444 [10:41] :-) [10:42] StevenK: all the distro team is, afaik [10:42] Ah [10:42] so instead of the usual ubuntu conference, this is a whip-cracking week for the canonical employees ;) [10:43] yeah, that's why we brought janew along. :-P [10:43] (for the whip-cracking, I mean) [10:43] probably good if its cold in london [10:44] hehe [10:47] Ugh, another bug about depending on php5 [10:47] yay === ajmitch needs to fixup phpgroupware to work nicely with php5 [10:48] but that may require slapping upstream around some [10:49] which is no real problem, since I'm supposed to be doing those patches upstream :) [10:49] and the main developer was here for LCA last week [10:49] As was Rasmus, right? :-) === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] StevenK: sure, but I mean the phpgw developer [10:50] I didn't go to rasmus' talk this time [10:50] ajmitch: I know. [10:50] rasmus is always in LCA [10:50] though I'm sure it was interesting :) === StevenK kicks crimsun. [10:50] (Malone #4078) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] StevenK: hm? what's wrong with that? [10:52] apart from that it should be assigned to motumergers [10:52] It's still open. [10:52] ah well [10:53] I have to close a bunch of my merge bugs also :) [10:57] Mithrandir: users are such fun, aren't they? [10:57] ajmitch: #d-d, you mean? [10:58] yeah === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-90-233.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@194.125.126.172] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d076126.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fatalerror [n=fatalerr@unaffiliated/fatalerror] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:04] is anyone else having masses of trouble with the dapper networking not starting properly on boot? [01:05] Hobbsee, I haven't [01:06] Gloubiboulga: right [01:06] Hobbsee, if you're relying on n-m or have not upgraded it from breezy - then yes [01:06] I believe dapper is relying on n-m atm for networking stuff mainly [01:06] n-m? I installed flight 1, and upgraded from there [01:07] Hobbsee, thats probably why [01:07] Network Manager [01:07] right [01:07] I think thedispatcher daemon is broken at the mo [01:07] <\sh> loopback wasn't setup properly somehow yesterday.. [01:07] <\sh> (without n-m) [01:07] <\sh> with n-m everything is fine here. [01:08] weird: I know my n-m has been having sporadic problems - I assumed it was that [01:08] and that it was falling back on the networking stuff I have left over from breezy [01:08] I know it doesnt like my wireless card now [01:09] <\sh> Mez: my amd64 is not running with n-m, and /etc/network/interfaces looks quite ok...but it doesn't setup my networking devices properly. eth0 is not dhcpclient-ized neither loopback is setup properly somehow...on my laptop with n-m everything is fine. [01:10] ah - ok then :D [01:10] lol === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] <\sh> and me needs an ack/nack for uvf exception for wine 0.9.6 === dholbach [n=daniel@82.109.136.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] \sh: Is that for the Real Life Upstream 0.9.6? [01:33] <\sh> StevenK: yepp [01:34] <\sh> StevenK: packages are ready for deployment :) === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] hello [01:36] salut pef [01:36] Gloubiboulga: salut, tout se passe bien ? ;) [01:37] pef, yep :) [01:37] why uqm-4 isn't synced from Debian/unstable ? in Dapper we have uqm-content-4 and uqm-3 I cannot find uqm-4 in bd logs === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] magandang gabi === susus [n=sz@p5089DF4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] dholbach: when running ekiga, I get this error: [02:45] ekiga: error while loading shared libraries: libopal.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [02:45] dholbach: known bug or shall I report via malone? [02:50] ah, never mind. this is malone 29195 [02:50] malone bug 29195 in gnomemeeting "Include Ekiga in Ubuntu" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29195 === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@82.109.136.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] wb dholbach === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.109.62] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] <\sh> grmpf...i need to write another uvf exception report [03:31] hmm, during breezy's uvf, how many exception reports were made? [03:31] <\sh> zakame: no reports..only for main [03:32] ah === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] <\sh> bah..jabberd2 s10 has to be included for dapper [03:35] <\sh> s8 is broken like hell..and s9 as well [03:37] waah!!! [03:39] <\sh> dholbach: you forgot to include wine in your report :) [03:40] <\sh> dholbach: (20th of Jan) [03:40] <\sh> dholbach: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-January/000192.html === dholbach [n=daniel@82.109.136.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackb1r@ubuntu/member/mitsuhiko] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dataw0lf [n=dataw0lf@70.103.239.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Apoll013 [n=Chatter@dslc-213-023-178-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@82.109.136.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=Tomasz@aih30.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] hello. I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I found out that SoundConverter is outdated in Dapper Universe. According to http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/sound/soundconverter the version in dapper is 0.8.1. The newest is 0.8.3 http://soundconverter.berlios.de/ . Is anyone here responsible for pushing new versions into Dapper Universe? [05:07] yes [05:07] ok, so it's just a hint for whoever takes care of it :) [05:07] we're in upstream version freeze (uvf), i have the changes prepared locally, filed a uvf exception request, will have to mail it to release manager [05:09] dholbach, so already took care of it? [05:09] *so you [05:09] It's not uploaded yet, because I need approval for a UVF exception. [05:09] ok. [05:09] and I need to mail the release manager (among 243697246 other things I have to do). :-) [05:09] But I'll take care of it. [05:09] ok cool. [05:10] also, after over a year, Psi 0.10 has been released. The version in Dapper is 0.9.3, same as was in Breezy. I'd be very glad if someone took care of it as well. [05:11] these are my only gripes as far as universe goes :) [05:11] Yes, you should read ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com [05:11] psi is taken care of too [05:12] ok. I see it's just a matter of time then. [05:12] Yeah. :) === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] are there many exceptions made to the uvf? I mean, is there a chance in hell both of these apps will be updated? === lamont [n=lamont@15.238.4.200] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] Sorry if being OT, but I've got a problem with hotplug not uploading firmware to my DVB-Card... wiki, google #ubuntu, #ubuntu-de didn't get me further. Some more ideas? === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.93.124] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=xerxas@58.100.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@c-67-183-18-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] Could you all do me a favour and review and reply to waiting UVF approval requests? [06:14] I'll have a look at them later, but it's easier if somebody has flicked through it already and I can push them to Matt and Colin. === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.244.117] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d016149.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === looksaus [n=looksaus@86-39-96-244.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] siretart: you there? === phanatic [n=phanatic@3e44bb11.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] hi people [06:54] hi phanatic [06:56] raphink: i'd like to ask you to have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1623 please... [06:56] siretart: ping [06:57] hehe I'm gonna test my new tool on you then phanatic ;) [06:58] raphink: is it autorevu, or what? ;) [06:58] it's just a small tool to generate some reports on the tarballs ;) [07:00] raphink: have you thought about integrating it with lintian or linda ? [07:00] (/me jumping in the discussion) [07:00] yes I have thought about it [07:00] but not right now [07:01] it's not very stable [07:01] and it's just a small bash script [07:01] I have a pb with it atm [07:01] trying to find out what it is [07:02] sounds interesting :) [07:04] hehe fixexdc [07:04] fixed [07:04] now it worked :) [07:04] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1623 [07:04] it adds three stuff : [07:04] tarballs.md5 115 Bytes [07:05] extracted_tarballs DIR [07:05] upstream_orig.diff 0 Bytes [07:05] I still have to get the upstream tarball manually [07:05] which is quite logical [07:05] but it helps cause any reviewer can check that the md5 and the diff -ru are fine in one click :=) [07:05] well 2 in total :) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] :) [07:09] I'm not sure keeping the extracted tarball is helpful, but I'm keeping it so far [07:11] phanatic: can you add a Homepage entry to the long Description in debian/control please? === sivang_ [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] oh, forgot :( === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] raphink: uploaded [07:18] ok [07:19] wait [07:21] raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1626 [07:22] yes wait ;) [07:22] you can correct the other comment, too ;) [07:22] while I'm working on some stuff [07:22] then i'll look at it again [07:23] i cannot clean that one, because that's in the orig.tar.gz [07:23] shall i touch that? [07:23] ah! [07:23] you can remove it in debian/rules I guess [07:24] so it's clean in the end ;) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] okay... while testing i added rm -f ... but it screamed anyway :) [07:25] yes but you have to add it [07:25] ok [07:25] as said by lintian [07:25] it will keep screaming but it'll be clean ;) === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-411.wfd77a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] raphink: done, upped... [07:28] ok wait === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1628 [07:32] wait [07:32] ok [07:32] :) [07:35] hmmpf [07:35] stupid me [07:35] nm ;) [07:36] there's no dapper chroot in dapper :s [07:36] I mean [07:36] dapper chroot on tiber [07:36] i'm getting tired I guess [07:36] lol [07:36] :) [07:36] sorry, i have to go... don't want to miss the bus :) [07:37] i hope everything is alright [07:37] ok [07:37] later [07:37] if not, i'll correct it tomorrow [07:37] bye === j^_ [n=j@e178023068.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] siretart: ping [07:53] raphink: pong. whassup? [07:53] hey siretart :) [07:54] well I just made a small tool I'm using on tiber and i wanted your opinion on it :) [07:54] it's /home/raphink/revu-orig [07:54] it generates a few files [07:55] makes it easier to check the md5sum or the diff -ru between the upstream and orig tarball ) [07:55] I tested it on a few packages already === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] like http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1615 [07:55] :) === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart looks [07:58] raphink: looks useful. do you think this is something which should be done unconditionally on every upload? [08:03] siretart: well the only thing is that I need to get the upstream tarball manually [08:03] siretart: so it can be done as soon as you have it ;) [08:03] the hard part is getting it [08:03] even grepping the package (like debian/copyright for example) doesn't give you enough infos to make the download automatic [08:04] siretart: I think if you like it it could be added to /usr/local/bin though, so other reviewers can run it [08:04] ;) === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] siretart: it shouldn' tbe added to revu-build since it doesn't meet the same requirements [08:04] revu-builds runs on the dsc, whereas revu-orig runs on the upstream tarball === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] siretart: so it's up to you, just keeping you informed of it :) [08:14] morning [08:15] hi ajmitch [08:15] hi ajmitch [08:17] hi ajmitch [08:19] raphink: I'm really busy right now. it could be run as 'revu hook' [08:20] raphink: would you like to commit your script to the revu1 svn? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-004-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-004-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] anyone know what package gnome-mouse-properties is in? [08:54] bur[n] er: packages.ubuntu.com [08:54] azeem: i did apt-cache search gnome-mouse to no avail [08:54] dpkg -S `which gnome-mouse-properties [08:54] gnome-control-center: /usr/bin/gnome-mouse-properties [08:54] ajmitch: yay for enablers [08:54] :P [08:54] I shouldn't encourage them [08:55] thanks ajmitch and tseng, that's a neat dpkg trick I never knew! [08:55] hi all [08:56] between dpkg, apt, and grep-dctrl === jvw [i=jeroen@220pc220.sshunet.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["bye] [08:56] you can find anything [08:56] with that dpkg command, I think that's the missing piece [08:56] thanks, adios === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] hmm, Debian NEW is up to 199 packages :( [09:06] and 100 of them are new X11? [09:06] not 100, maybe 20 [09:07] hmm, I get ~28 X11 packages [09:11] sources under BSD license can be included in Ubuntu ? [09:11] yes, of course [09:11] tseng, thanks, I wasn't sure [09:11] hey all [09:11] hi Kyral [09:13] yea! *hugs whoever Tomboy's maintainer is* [09:14] eh? [09:14] myself and then dave beckett adopted it [09:15] ty for including the watchfile [09:15] Kyral: uh why? [09:15] Since there is a new version out after the UVF all I have to do it sourceget it from apt and run uupdate to compile the new one for myself :D [09:16] thats useful [09:16] and it would have been a great challenge to do it without a watch file? [09:17] ajmitch: No, but it makes it easier and you gotta admit easier is good :D [09:17] not when it breaks things [09:17] yah, btu I know how to handle myself === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] Kyral: but not how to type ;-) [09:19] ..bah [09:21] Kyral: how's the packaging going these days? FlowDesigner still a no go? [09:23] LaserJock: yah [09:23] and right now I'm focusing on School [09:23] I have an Exam on Thursday lol [09:24] well study hard, I've got a poster I have to finish today :( [09:24] hhe [09:24] Yah...as soon as Flight 4 comes out I'll have to start working on the Install Guide === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-197.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] yeah, and I got to get the Packaging Guide in shape before String Freeze [09:25] When is that? [09:25] March 16th [09:26] ah okay so I have time :D [09:27] depends on how much you have to do === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-5581.lns3-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable151.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral starts to use Tomboy to schedule his lfie [10:23] siretart: sorry I was away... would you like me to commit this script to the svn ? [10:23] LaserJock: don't hesitate pinging me anytime about the Packaging Guide ;) [10:24] raphink: well, I filled out the outline with skeleton sections last night. Doesn't look like it has hit doc.ubuntu.com, but when it does you can see sections that need to be done ;-) [10:24] raphink: sure. [10:25] siretart: how do I do that? [10:25] LaserJock: i'll be happy to write for it, if you can correct my english afterwards ;) [10:25] raphink: I'd like to do a little section on packaging for Kubuntu so you might be a help out there [10:25] raphink: you are already in the 'revu' group, the svn is on tiber in /srv/svn/revu [10:25] LaserJock: sure, there are some specific points indeed [10:25] raphink: do a svn co svn+ssh://tiber.tauware.de/srv/svn/revu on your machine [10:27] let's see [10:29] hmm doesn't seem to do anything :s === Zomb [n=eb@x118.rhrk.uni-kl.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["I] [10:29] oh yes now it does :) [10:29] siretart: revu-build is not in the svn? [10:30] raphink: I'll get an email on commit with your diff and commit changelog [10:30] raphink: no, not yet. I should have included it, you are right [10:30] I rather focus on revu2 [10:30] yes [10:30] do you want me to commit revu-build, too? [10:31] I don't know how to commit to the svn though :s [10:31] this is a point where I really lack knowledge today === GURT [n=pastafzu@unaffiliated/gurt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] How can i find a repository with wxPython 2.6.1.x or higher? === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] 'python-wxgtk2.6' is in dapper/universe === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] let's see if I understood how to use svn ... [10:54] crimsun: can i use packages from dapper/universe in breezy? [10:55] siretart: I can't commit my changes :s [10:56] GURT: if you recompile them in a Breezy pbuilder, sure [10:57] oi [10:57] i don't know what that means heh [10:58] GURT: maybe you should ask in #ubuntu [10:59] raphink: use svn add to add files to your working copy, and then 'svn commit' to commit your changes [10:59] yeah. thanks anyhow :) === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas has some available time [11:15] somebody has any merge reviews pending ? [11:19] hello [11:21] lucas: it would be nice if you can review bug 29724 [11:21] malone bug 29724 in xfonts-mona "xfonts-mona installs font to wrong directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29724 [11:22] lucas: I looked at the debdiff and think it's good, but I've not built or tested it myself yet [11:27] hmm, I'm going to have to go through the science packages and figure out what we can merge/sync according to the list we have 58 outdated packages in Ubuntu [11:28] oh really, we are so behind now? [11:29] minghua: well it is after UVF [11:29] LaserJock: you'll have to provide good reasons for UVF exceptions [11:31] minghua: regarding #29724, we should see whether there's a better solution than fixing all packages [11:31] I'm not familiar with X fonts packaging [11:31] wow, 58 ... === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-75-248.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] lucas: no problem, I've done an X font package merging before, and I'll test this one then look for an MOTU [11:35] ajmitch: but sync from debian with same upstream version but new debian revision is still allowed (no need for exception request), right? [11:35] minghua: right [11:47] ajmitch: it's not UVF exceptions I'm looking at but merges/syncs we can do without an exceptions [11:53] I don't want that a shell script abort on errors [11:53] should I use set +e or set -e? [11:55] ok, I counted 32 out of the 58 oudated MOTUScience packages could be merged/synced without UVF exceptions === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58] siretart: set +e, I believe. [11:59] ok