[12:11] <btn> I'm confused on why my KDE 3.4.3 isn't updating to the latest when I apt-update, apt-upgrade. I uncommented the probler lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list. Am I missing something?
[12:11] <btn> *proper
[12:11] <kkathman> btn:  you mean to 3.5 ?
[12:12] <btn> ya
[12:12] <kkathman> btn:  http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/sintro.html
[12:12] <kkathman> OOPS NOT THAT! HEHE
[12:12] <btn> ah
[12:12] <kkathman> btn:  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[12:13] <kkathman> that one
[12:13] <kkathman> hehe
[12:13] <btn> i see, thx
[12:13] <kkathman> you have to use a diff repo
[12:31] <eieiyo> i am trying to compile a program and it needs kernel-sources. but when i do apt-cache search kernel-sources... i dont see anything?? any ideas?
[12:32] <robotgeek> eieiyo, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:32] <eieiyo> so that will install kernel-sources and kernel-headers?
[12:32] <eieiyo> for the version of the kernel i have
[12:34] <robotgeek> eieiyo: you probably don't need kernel-sources
[12:35] <E-Train> I just hooked up an external hard drive and when i play mp3's off of it they will sometimes pause then start back up?
[12:35] <E-Train> anyone else run into this
[12:36] <laga> !dma
[12:36] <laga> ubotu: tell E-Train about dma
[12:36] <E-Train> ??
[12:37] <E-Train> you guys rock so hard
[12:38] <zeballin_kub> Just installed Kubuntu. Looked great. All other partitions had device icons on desktop. I did a full upgrade with Adapt... now all device incons are gone. Did fstab get hosed?
[12:38] <eieiyo> robotgeek: i see... i am trying to install asterisk and it says i need kernel-sources. so i dont know?
[12:38] <eieiyo> well, it says Linux 2.4 kernel sources or kernel 2.6 header files
[12:39] <robotgeek> eieiyo: you are on 2.6 , so all you need is the headers
[12:39] <eieiyo> great. so that one line you told me will make it work right then
[12:39] <robotgeek> yeah
[12:39] <eieiyo> robotgeek: thanks so much for the help. :)
[12:40] <eieiyo> by the way. kubuntu is awesome. my favorite distro so far
[12:41] <eieiyo> if i type uname -r at the terminal will it give me the kernel i am using?
[12:44] <robotgeek> yes
[12:44] <eieiyo> k. thanks
[12:44] <Mr_DataWolf> hi a question.  Since moving to kubuntu when we mount our servers nfs share it takes a LONG time (2 minutes maybe) to mount it. It's a Suse server. Anyone else ran into this problem?
[12:44] <mcsteels> can some1 please paste thir repos for me?? I have just deleted mine without backing them up
[12:45] <btn> sure
[12:46] <bimberi> !repos
[12:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:47] <btn> wont let me pm - -
[12:48] <bimberi> btn: you need to be (registered and) identified.  mcsteels: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:48] <zeballin_kub> Just installed Kubuntu. Looked great. All other partitions had device icons on desktop. I did a full upgrade with Adapt... now all device incons are gone.
[12:57] <djmaster> Bsoir all
[01:10] <slow-motion> n8
[01:10] <korkow> hey, im having problems with CVS cedega
[01:10] <korkow> it fails when it tries to make
[01:11] <Hobbsee> korkow: paste the error?
[01:11] <Hobbsee> and the stuff before it, in the pastebin?
[01:11] <wolf_> HEY!
[01:11] <wolf_> Got it up and running.
[01:11] <wolf_> This is Tainted-Time.
[01:11] <korkow> http://pastebin.com/531359
[01:11] <korkow> Hobbsee, thats the link to pastebin
[01:12] <wolf_> Now, is yakuake in the suppositories? I tried 'aptI yakuake'
[01:12] <wolf_> It didnt come up
[01:12] <Hobbsee> eep
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !info yakuake
[01:12] <korkow> what?
[01:12] <wolf_> aptI is an alias I have for 'sudo apt-get install
[01:12] <ubotu> yakuake: (an alternative KDE console resembling those found in Quake), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2.6-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 344 kB
[01:12] <Hobbsee> wolf_: it's there, enable universe
[01:12] <korkow> Hobbsee, whats up with it?
[01:12] <Hobbsee> korkow: got no idea how to fix that - looks like a problem with the makefile
[01:13] <korkow> hmm... is it my compys fault?
[01:13] <hub> hi
[01:13] <korkow> hi
[01:13] <hub> I just wanted to congratulate the Kubuntu team.
[01:14] <wolf_> Awesome! <333
[01:14] <hub> for the first time, I'm not willing to switch back to my previous desktop after starting KDE
[01:14] <hub> and that is a performance
[01:14] <dell500> how do i delete an icon theme once installed?
[01:15] <wolf_> hub: Have you tried YaKuake?
[01:15] <dell500> the Remove Theme button doesn't highlight...
[01:15] <hub> wolf_: tried what?
[01:15] <wolf_> yakuake
[01:15] <wolf_> Its a dropdown terminal.
[01:15] <hub> what is that?
[01:15] <hub> no
[01:15] <wolf_> Its always there, and it comes up when you press f12
[01:15] <wolf_> !info yakuake
[01:15] <ubotu> yakuake: (an alternative KDE console resembling those found in Quake), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2.6-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 344 kB
[01:16] <wolf_> I love it.
[01:16] <hub> and believe it or not, KDE 3.5 feels faster on thise machin than Gnome :-/
[01:17] <wolf_> Is there a way to get KDE 4.0?
[01:17] <hub> wolf_: it is a killer that thing
[01:17] <hub> I'll have to repackage it to put at work :-/
[01:17] <wolf_> hub: What do you mean?
[01:17] <hub> wolf_: I love it
[01:17] <wolf_> You love what? yakuake?
[01:18] <hub> yep
[01:18] <wolf_> yeah
[01:18] <wolf_> I got addicted to it.
[01:18] <wolf_> but I also use irssi
[01:18] <wolf_> Type 'irssi' into a konsole...or yakuake
[01:18] <wolf_> its an irc client
[01:18] <wolf_> but more linuxy and texy.
[01:18] <wolf_> no gui
[01:19] <zeballin_kub> Can anyone help me?  Just installed Kubuntu. Looked great. All other partitions had device icons on desktop. I did a full upgrade with Adapt... now all device incons are gone.
[01:19] <dell500> is there a folder for icon themes for kde??
[01:20] <wolf_> Hobbsee: How do I get KDE 3.5.1?
[01:21] <hub> wolf_: Dapper :-)
[01:21] <Tainted> I know that but...
[01:21] <Tainted> On Breezy
[01:21] <Tainted> Oh this is wolf.
[01:21] <hub> wolf_: I installed Dapper after Dapper screwed up my system beyond repair
[01:22] <Tainted> I tried, but it doesn't pick up my CD drive...which means no install.
[01:22] <mr-russ> there are packages on the Kubuntu site for 3.5 on Breezy.
[01:22] <Tainted> 3.5.0 or 3.5.1?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> Tainted: not sure that you can get 3.5.1 on breezy
[01:22] <Tainted> Hobbsee: Really?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> i'll go have a look - my informatoin is old
[01:23] <Hobbsee> trouble when i only come back from holidays, then have to work
[01:23] <dell500> ...
[01:24] <Hobbsee> dell500: yeah, think so, locate icons
[01:24] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[01:24] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:25] <zeballin_kub> I give up. If a upgrade can hose a distro, it's obviously not very stable.
[01:26] <zeballin_kub> Last try: Can anyone help me?  Just installed Kubuntu. Looked great. All other partitions had device icons on desktop. I did a full upgrade with Adapt... now all device incons are gone.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> Tainted: there are 3.5.1 repos
[01:26] <Tainted> Okay.
[01:26] <Tainted> Thanks!
[01:27] <Hobbsee> Tainted: follow http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php but instead of the repo saying 35, add a 1 on the end, making it say 351
[01:28] <zeballin_kub> Of all the people here no one knows how to get the device icons back afer an upgrade?
[01:29] <mr-russ> zeballin_kub: what Kubuntu version, any addons, using only main, or universe?
[01:30] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: version 5.1. I had universe in the repos.
[01:30] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: no addons that I know of.
[01:30] <mr-russ> K, so kde3.4
[01:30] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: correct.
[01:31] <mr-russ> Was this a recent update/change?
[01:31] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: I was looking for 3.5, but never found it so decided to just to the upgrade adapt wanted. upgrade was done about 30 minutes ago.
[01:31] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: I installed about an hour ago.
[01:32] <mr-russ> hmm.  and what does it look like when you are missing device icons?
[01:32] <zeballin_kub> They were on the deskop. I restared computer, and they are not there. However I can go to Konq and click the in /media and they will mount and dispaly in kong. Just not on desktop where they should be.
[01:33] <mr-russ> So icons are not displaying on the desktop and not automounting correctly?
[01:33] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: do not display on desktop. They will automount from inside kong.
[01:34] <mr-russ> and they are then not displayed on the desktop after they are mounted?
[01:34] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: I checked the desktop config program and made sure they were all checked.
[01:34] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: they do not display on desktop no matter what I do.
[01:34] <mr-russ> If you installed 1 hour ago, and updated 30 minutes ago, you've gone through kernel upgrade, if not two.
[01:34] <zeballin_kub> (I've been using kde for 5 years and have never seen something like this.)
[01:35] <mr-russ> I've seen much worse.
[01:35] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: yes there was a kernel upgrade because my boot screen shows old and new.
[01:35] <mr-russ> I could be a kernel problem, but I don't know.
[01:35] <dell500> just wondering, but why can't i uninstall the current icon theme? i installed it, but it won't let me remove it...
[01:35] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: I doubt it is a kernel thing.
[01:36] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: kernel wouldn't now beans about desktop icons.
[01:36] <zeballin_kub> It's a kde thing. fstab looks good however.
[01:36] <mr-russ> I think you will have to investigate further then, I don't have other brilliant ideas.
[01:37] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: ok, thanks. I put a note on the kub forum. maybe someone will know.
[01:37] <Tainted> How do I share a folder with a computer on the network?
[01:37] <Tainted> It used Windows
[01:37] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: stuff like this makes want want to just junk linux and buy a Mac.
[01:37] <Tainted> uses**
[01:38] <mr-russ> zeballin_kub: yes, and the mac does the same thing, as does win32, you just need to use each enough!
[01:38] <mr-russ> only way to get CD's out of a mac sometimes is to reboot.
[01:39] <zeballin_kub> mr-russ: well thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
[01:39] <Tainted> Anyone?
[01:40] <Hobbsee> !+samba
[01:40] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:40] <Hobbsee> Tainted: ^
[01:40] <mr-russ> Tainted: open konq, right click folder, clikc share doesn't work for you?
[01:41] <Tainted> mr-russ: All the options are grayed out
[01:41] <mr-russ> and the message at the top says "You don't have samba or NFS installed"
[01:41] <mr-russ> like installing samba.
[01:42] <dell500> how do you get the KDE Control Center?
[01:42] <dell500> or is 3.5 diff or something.
[01:42] <Hobbsee> dell500: it's called system settings
[01:42] <dell500> alrighty
[01:42] <dell500> just makin' sure
[01:42] <Hobbsee> otherwise, alt+f2, kcontrol
[01:42] <Hobbsee> both work
[01:43] <dell500> oo i like that more
[01:43] <dell500> gives a lot more information and stuff
[01:43] <phoenixX> does anyone know how to check the version of gcc and glibc being used?
[01:44] <dell500> bbl
[01:44] <Hobbsee> phoenixX: programname -v
[01:45] <phoenixX> Hobbsee, but I type gcc -v  and it doesn't work
[01:45] <Hobbsee> gcc -v works here - not the second one
[01:46] <robotgeek> phoenixX: cat /proc/version
[01:47] <phoenixX> ah there we go
[01:47] <phoenixX> I have gcc version, but what about glibc?
[01:47] <robotgeek> phoenixX: dpkg -l glibc ?
[01:48] <Tainted> Is there a simpler way?
[01:50] <crimsun> dpkg -l libc6|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $3 }'
[01:50] <crimsun> you can substitute the string "libc6" with any binary package name
[01:51] <flipjarg> What do i have to do to see Window's users on my Wireless Network?
[01:53] <mr-russ> flipjarg: can't you just click on network  shares in konq?
[01:53] <flipjarg> Nothing shows up, i just get an error message.
[01:54] <flipjarg> wait samba shares or network shares?
[01:54] <mr-russ> any chance of sharing that error message?
[01:54] <mr-russ> if you want to access windows, you need samba shares.
[01:54] <flipjarg> Unable to find any workgroups in your local network.
[01:54] <Tainted> mr-russ: Is there any easy way to set all that up?
[01:54] <flipjarg> sorry had to get it
[01:54] <flipjarg> yeah
[01:54] <mr-russ> Tainted: apt-get install samba
[01:55] <Tainted> when i try to do it konq all the options in share are grayed out.
[01:55] <flipjarg> it's installed already.
[01:55] <mr-russ> Tainted: and then right click again.
[01:55] <flipjarg> There is configuration files... but i'll try anywah
[01:55] <mr-russ> flipjarg: can you ping the windows machines?
[01:56] <flipjarg> Hmmm odd. i've looked through the smb.conf file and it still installed after apt-get install samba
[01:56] <flipjarg> yes i've pinged them successfully.
[01:56] <flipjarg> error installing samba
[01:56] <mr-russ> I don't know off hand then, as it "just works" for me.
[01:56] <mr-russ> error installing samba, that's bad.
[01:57] <flipjarg> i had kcontrol open. Maybe that was screwing it up. Now i'll try.
[01:58] <flipjarg> It says this...
[01:58] <flipjarg> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:58] <LiteHedded> i need background images for the kde panel
[01:58] <LiteHedded> where can I find them?
[01:59] <mr-russ> flipjarg: got adept or anything open?
[01:59] <flipjarg> no just cloesed everything.
[01:59] <flipjarg> except for this.
[01:59] <Tainted> hey
[01:59] <Tainted> mr-russ: I shared it and stuf.
[01:59] <Tainted> But it doesnt show up on Windows?
[01:59] <LiteHedded> anybody?
[01:59] <mr-russ> Tainted: but can you connect to it.
[01:59] <Tainted>     username = george
[01:59] <Tainted>     password = secret
[02:00] <Tainted> An error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/wolf/Desktop/Shit/Pictures2'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root.
[02:00] <Tainted> How do I fix that?
[02:00] <mr-russ> home is not NFS mounted is it?
[02:00] <robotgeek> flipjarg: lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[02:00] <Tainted> Nope..
[02:01] <mr-russ> Tainted: ls -l /usr/bin/fileshareset
[02:01] <phoenixX> robotgeek, it says it can't find anything eith glibc
[02:01] <phoenixX> *with
[02:01] <picoss> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/531447
[02:01] <Tainted> An error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/wolf/Desktop/Shit/Pictures2'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root.
[02:02] <Tainted> Got the same thing.
[02:02] <picoss> sorry mistyping
[02:02] <flipjarg> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[02:02] <flipjarg>       Output information may be incomplete.
[02:02] <flipjarg> robotgeek: ^ is the output
[02:02] <mr-russ> Tainted: what was the output of the ls?
[02:02] <Tainted> -rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 10997 2005-10-05 08:40 /usr/bin/fileshareset
[02:03] <mr-russ> flipjarg: try as sudo
[02:03] <mr-russ> Tainted: it has the stickybit set.
[02:03] <flipjarg> Yeah, just saw i wasn't root.
[02:03] <flipjarg> Here is my lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[02:03] <flipjarg> ....
[02:03] <Tainted> mr-russ: What does the mean?
[02:03] <flipjarg> COMMAND    PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE  SIZE    NODE NAME
[02:03] <flipjarg> dpkg-prec 9812 root    4rW  REG    3,1 67252 7474365 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[02:04] <mr-russ> r = read, w = write, x = execute, s = setuid/sticky
[02:04] <Tainted> ah ok
[02:04] <robotgeek> flipjarg: dpkg-prec is using that process :)
[02:04] <mr-russ> flipjarg: there is a dpkg process running with that file open.
[02:04] <mr-russ> user, group, everybody.
[02:04] <flipjarg> hmmm maybe one that's hanging
[02:04] <mr-russ> Tainted: I don't think I have the time to help further at the moment.
[02:05] <flipjarg> if i killed dpkg-prec would anything screw up?
[02:05] <flipjarg> any system stuff screw up.
[02:05] <robotgeek> flipjarg: nope
[02:05] <flipjarg> k
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> whoa, the tabs are on top, it's freaking me out man!
[02:08] <flipjarg> Thanks robotgeek and mr-russ i'm able to see workgroups and view files on shared folders now!
[02:08] <flipjarg> :-)
[02:08] <E-Train> is it ok to use dmau on a usb 2.0 external hard drive that is media/sda1
[02:08] <E-Train> ?
[02:09] <E-Train> or can you only do it on something that is on hdc like in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA example
[02:12] <E-Train> does anyone have any advice on that?
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: dma cannot be set on scsi devices which is how your external usb and firewire drives will be treated. You don't need it for those types of devs.
[02:13] <E-Train> ubotu recomended that i do it because my mp3 playback will sometimes pause then start back up
[02:13] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, E-Train
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: for how long?
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: and what player?
[02:14] <E-Train> about 15 seconds
[02:14] <E-Train> xmms
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: wow, that's crap. What if you test the speed of your external hd with hdparm? id 'sudo hdparm -t /dev/hda1' will test the speed of the internal HD partition 1.
[02:15] <E-Train> its not located in dev/hda1
[02:15] <E-Train> it is media/sda1
[02:15] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: that was just an example, you probably want to use /dev/sda1
[02:15] <LeeJunFan> right.
[02:16] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: /media/sda1 is just a directory where linux mounts/attaches your filesystem, the actual raw device access would be through /dev/sda1
[02:17] <E-Train> 2 MB in  6.73 seconds = 304.17 kB/sec
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: that's why, that's horrible.
[02:17] <robotgeek> E-Train: do you have usb 2.0  ?
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> my internal is 40MB/s, my external is 25MB/s
[02:17] <robotgeek> it is still slow for usb 1.1, it's supposed to do more
[02:17] <E-Train> yea its a new card that i just dropped in
[02:18] <E-Train> i think that it isnt set up right
[02:18] <robotgeek> 8.66 MB/sec for me, i don't think i have dma enabled. lol
[02:19] <brodel> is VNC the best remote control solution for ubuntu?
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> robotgeek: yeah, but an external drive shouldn't be.
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> another possibility is an irq conflict of some type with the usb port.
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: laptop or desktop?
[02:20] <robotgeek> LeeJunFan: my dma is on, but i'm already busy with lots of activities. Maybe that's why it's slow for me. plus, slow processor
[02:20] <E-Train> leejun - desktop. dosent usb solve irq conflects or do you mean with my new pci usb 2.0 card
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: mean with the new card. Try "safely remove" by right clicking the device, then open a shell and do 'sudo modprobe ehci' then plug your drive back in, and try hdparm -t on it again.
[02:21] <LeeJunFan> perhaps the usb2.0 module (ehci) isn't loaded.
[02:23] <E-Train> FATAL: Module ehci not found.
[02:24] <E-Train> leejun - FATAL: Module ehci not found.
[02:24] <Xemanth^^> its ehci_hcd
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> yeah, sorry.
[02:24] <Xemanth^^> :)
[02:25] <Xemanth^^> did it work ?
[02:26] <orion_fr_24> !apache
[02:26] <ubotu> I heard apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:26] <Xemanth^^> with sudo modinfo ehci_hcd you shoulg get info more
[02:29] <E-Train> xemanth^^ its not doing anything
[02:30] <Xemanth^^> what aint ?
[02:30] <E-Train> sudo modprobe ehci_hcd
[02:30] <Xemanth^^> well then it loaded that module... ^^
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: now plug your drive back in and run the hdparm test again.
[02:31] <Xemanth^^> yop
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> E-Train: if it's still plugged in, unplug it and plug it back in.
[02:32] <Xemanth^^> well im off to sleep 3.30 am here  :| and im totally fucked up, this is like 7th nn when i'm so long awake
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> thing is even with usb1 you should do better than 300KB/s.
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> gnight.
[02:32] <Xemanth^^> well yesterday i was up at 5.30
[02:32] <Xemanth^^> :|
[02:32] <E-Train> thanks for some help man
[02:33] <Xemanth^^> nn peeps
[02:33] <Xemanth^^> E-Train: no problem, happy to help :>
[02:33] <Xemanth^^> E-Train: when you do modprobe *module* you get info about it with modinfo :)
[02:34] <E-Train> no info poped up
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> yep, modprobe loads it, modinfo will give you info.
[02:34] <E-Train> 66 MB in 74.77 seconds = 903.85 kB/sec is what i got when i hdparm -t
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> modinfo ehci_hcd
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> better but still not good.
[02:35] <Xemanth^^> well but i go to sleep now, every day waking up at 3 pm :o
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> I dunno man, and sry to say I gotta go. good luck.
[02:35] <E-Train> description:    10 Dec 2004 USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
[02:36] <E-Train> k thanks
[02:36] <Xemanth^^> E-Train: well you got info from that module ;)
[02:36] <Xemanth^^> but npw to sleep --->
[02:39] <E-Train> ubotu or dark_suic - you got any ideas?
[02:39] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, E-Train
[02:39] <bimberi> !yourself
[02:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:11] <orion_fr_24> !lamp
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:21] <_wd_> just installed kubuntu, had ubuntu but had problems with printers, scanners and lot more... how do i configure my windows hd's to boot up in kubuntu?
[03:29] <m_tadeu> hi....i'm getting 2 errors on kernel modules...how do i remove these modules?
[03:34] <robotgeek> !windows
[03:34] <ubotu> hmm... windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:34] <robotgeek> sorry, wrong factoid
[03:34] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: what modules?
[03:35] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: fan and thermal
[03:36] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: you remove modules using "sudo rmmod modulename"
[03:36] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: i think it was because i had acpi enabled at install time
[03:36] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: i have no idea about all three, sorry
[03:37] <m_tadeu> mmm...says that those modules don't exist
[03:37] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: lsmod | less
[03:38] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: i get an error on loading those modules, so i guess they wont be in lsmod
[03:39] <ClayG> does anyone know a good howto on compiling a custom kernel for ubuntu? I know there is one that is basically grabbing a package from synaptic and adding a patch someone wrote. I'm looking for something that gets a little messier
[03:39] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: true
[03:39] <robotgeek> ClayG: look on the wiki, KernelCompile i think
[03:39] <ClayG> thanks
[03:41] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: is there a file that defines the modules to be loaded?
[03:42] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: /etc/modules contains modules to be loaded on startup
[03:43] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: not these ones :(
[03:43] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: also look in the /etc/modprobe.d/
[03:45] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: no luck
[03:46] <robotgeek> m_tadeu: i'm sorry, i have no clue about those things :(
[03:46] <robotgeek> maybe ask in #ubuntu too
[03:46] <m_tadeu> robotgeek: thanx...i'll guvi it a shot
[03:46] <hub> m_tadeu: most of them are probed
[03:46] <jamonation> anyone know how I can install i386 on amd64 without having to resort to dpkg --force-all?
[03:46] <hub> m_tadeu: but you can blacklist some
[03:47] <hub> jamonation: dpkg-cross
[03:47] <jamonation> ah, thanks
[03:47] <Surb> Does anyone know the order of the wires for a Cat6 cable that will uses gigabit ethernet?
[03:47] <Surb> Google hasn't been much help.
[03:47] <m_tadeu> hub: how do i do that?
[03:56] <brodel> is VNC the best remote control solution for ubuntu?
[03:57] <dj_tasaka> is there a way i can make thunderbird display a new mail notification in the kde tray?
[04:02] <bimberi> brodel: vnc is good,  so is ...
[04:02] <bimberi> !freenx
[04:02] <ubotu> [freenx]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[04:07] <brodel> hmm
[04:07] <brodel> never heard of that before
[04:08] <brodel> maybe I'll play with it a bit.
[04:08] <brodel> thanks :)
[04:13] <shmeebegek> I just ran the kubuntu install CD, and on the first boot it just hangs at "starting hotplug system"
[04:13] <shmeebegek> any ideas?
[04:16] <bimberi> brodel: yw :)
[04:17] <shmeebegek> ? :-/
[04:23] <eightiesk> !firefox1.5
[04:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:23] <eightiesk> !gaim2.0
[04:23] <ubotu> eightiesk: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:24] <eightiesk> !gaim
[04:24] <ubotu> gaim is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[04:24] <pestilence> where do i set the default web browser for mozilla-thunderbird?  for some reason links are opening in konqueror.  i already tried the one in "system settings -> user account"
[04:26] <ArthurB> Hi, can I have pointers as to how to set powernowd, there is no configure example conf file shipped with the package
[04:27] <gamma> anyone here on dapper manage to get kde to recognize cups?
[04:27] <gamma> it's telling me cups server not found with kde-3.5.1.. localhost:631 works too
[04:28] <eitan> hello all
[04:28] <eitan> can I have some help with ndiswrapper?
[04:28] <gamma> eitan: what's the problem?
[04:28] <pestilence> gamma, if you mean "system settings -> printers", then yes that works ok
[04:29] <eitan> I installed the driver for my linksys card via ndiswrapper
[04:29] <gamma> pestilence: :/... i'm going to upgrade and see if that fixes anything
[04:29] <gamma> pestilence: kde-3.5.1 for you?
[04:29] <eitan> when i do "ndiswrapper -l" I get "lsbcmnds driver present" but no "hardware present"
[04:29] <gamma> is it the right driver? 0.o
[04:30] <eitan> I'm thinking maybe it can't tell i have a pcmcia plugged in?
[04:30] <eitan> pretty sure it's the right driver, yeah
[04:30] <pestilence> gamma, whatever kubuntu-desktop installed today
[04:30] <pestilence> gamma, where do i find the version
[04:30] <gamma> pestilence: well you'd need to add the testing thingy to package.args
[04:30] <gamma> go to about kde
[04:30] <gamma> if you don't know the version chances are you arent on 3.5.1 :P
[04:31] <pestilence> gamma, according to help, 3.5.1
[04:31] <gamma> eitan: did you try modprobing it?
[04:31] <eitan> yeah
[04:31] <gamma> and no dice?
[04:31] <eitan> modprobing ndiswrapper you mean? yeah
[04:31] <whappd> I'm having a lot of trouble with adept/apt-get/dpkg (Broken Installations) .... can anyone help me figure out how to correct this issue?
[04:31] <pestilence> gamma, if by testing you mean "dapper sources", that's what i have.
[04:31] <gamma> yea ndiswrapper i mean
[04:31] <eitan> nope
[04:31] <eitan> diceless
[04:32] <gamma> eitan: try running dmesg |grep pcmia
[04:32] <gamma> err
[04:32] <gamma> dmesg |grep pcmcia
[04:32] <eitan> nope...nothing grepped
[04:33] <Hobbsee> whappd: pastebin all the errors?
[04:33] <gamma> yea i'm guessing it's not loading the pcmcia stuff
[04:33] <gamma> cuz i get [4294681.989000]  pcmcia: parent PCI bridge I/O window: 0xd000 - 0xefff
[04:33] <eitan> poo...guess I'll have to get a different card...
[04:34] <gamma> eitan: i don't think its the card
[04:34] <gamma> i think it's the pcmcia not being detected..
[04:34] <gamma> in the kernel
[04:34] <pestilence> so anybody know why mozilla-thunderbird is opening links with konqueror?
[04:34] <eitan> poo
[04:34] <eitan> is that software?
[04:34] <gamma> eitan: what type of computer/motherboard?
[04:34] <eitan> can i fix it?
[04:34] <eitan> errmm...dell latitude d500...not sure bout motherboard
[04:35] <gamma> yea you gotta get pcmcia support working in your kernel
[04:35] <gamma> is that relatively new?
[04:35] <eitan> nope
[04:35] <eitan> relatively old
[04:35] <brodel> hehe.. yeah the d500s aren't new
[04:35] <eitan> pentium m
[04:35] <whappd> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/531588
[04:35] <gamma> dell has too many models/model numbers for me to remember :P
[04:35] <eitan> lol, yeah
[04:35] <brodel> kubuntu worked fine with a lat d810 I had at work though
[04:36] <gamma> eitan: does the card work in windows? (hides)
[04:36] <eitan> donno...haven't used windows on this comp ;-)
[04:36] <gamma> :)
[04:36] <Hobbsee> whappd: what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[04:37] <gamma> eitan: i'd try searching ubuntu forums for pcmcia not working.. worse comes to worse you can compile a custom kernel
[04:37] <gamma> linksys cards should be supported natively w/o ndiswrapper
[04:37] <eitan> i'm not leet enuff to compile kernels, heh
[04:37] <gamma> well search the forums :P
[04:37] <brodel> ha.. you and me both eitan
[04:37] <gamma> brb gotta reboot
[04:38] <eitan> http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54
[04:39] <brodel> bah
[04:39] <whappd> Hobbsee: tell you in a sec
[04:39] <brodel> you just reminded me I don't have flash working :(
[04:39] <whappd> Hobbsee: it went through a whole lot of successful updates, and then displayed the exact same errors
[04:39] <whappd> but it hasnt returned an error status yet
[04:40] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[04:41] <whappd> yeah. i'm really stumped... i've spent most of the day searching the ubuntu forums and doing trial/error with apt and dpkg
[04:41] <whappd> but to no avail
[04:42] <eitan> well someone thank gamma for me when he or she comes back...i'm off...
[04:44] <whappd> Hobbsee: it finally errored...
[04:44] <whappd> circle-jerk dependencies. errors because Pkg1 depends on Pkg 2, and Pkg 2 depends on Pkg 1
[04:44] <whappd> oy
[04:45] <Hobbsee> ah great
[04:45] <gamma> i'm going back to straight kubuntu breezy
[04:45] <Hobbsee> what are you on now?  dapper?
[04:45] <gamma> yea
[04:45] <gamma> it's so broken it hurts
[04:45] <Hobbsee> try force installing both at once
[04:45] <Hobbsee> well, you *are* running a development release
[04:46] <Hobbsee> what, really, did you expect?
[04:46] <gamma> well development to me meant little bugs
[04:46] <gamma> this is all out broken
[04:46] <gamma> i can't print, ndiswrapper (wireless) doesn't work, adept dies all the time, kde crashes a lot
[04:47] <gamma> printing was the last straw for me
[04:47] <robotgeek> gamma: dapper will be broken. it will become more worse than it is now
[04:47] <Hobbsee> try in a few months
[04:47] <robotgeek> like in march
[04:47] <gamma> robotgeek: wouldn't it get less broken closer to launch? ;)
[04:47] <Hobbsee> hehe - that should be interesting, seeing as i no longer have breezy on here
[04:48] <Hobbsee> theoretically
[04:48] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: you are lucky, we havent lost X yet
[04:48] <gamma> Hobbsee: you're on dapper?
[04:48] <robotgeek> when's that expected? :)
[04:48] <nalioth_zZz> gamma: march is about the time i'd start checking it out
[04:48] <Hobbsee> gamma: yep, only problems i've had are my buggy touchpad, networking trouble, and a few other bits and pieces
[04:48] <nalioth_zZz> gamma: march is about the time for feature freeze, iirc
[04:48] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: we did for a few days months ago - i hope we dont again!
[04:49] <gamma> Hobbsee: no problems with cups there?
[04:49] <Hobbsee> it says it wont start, yet it will print to both network printers
[04:50] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: i don't have sound, it's a regression bug, fixed in next upload
[04:50] <Hobbsee> no linux OS (i've only tried (k)ubuntu) will find my parallel port printer
[04:50] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: ah yep - happened to me in breezy with the particular kernel
[04:50] <gamma> Hobbsee: i can't add a printer in kde to test to see if it prints
[04:50] <rjune> Hobbsee: is it listed in www.linuxprinting.org?
[04:50] <Hobbsee> why not?  it tells you cups isnt supported?
[04:50] <stupendo44> I need some help figuring out what's eating up all my ram right now. This is something that is happening at the moment, but rather than reboot to fix it, I figured I would try to get some help to determine what is causing it. I have 512MB of ram, and KDE System Guard says there's only 5 MB free.
[04:50] <rjune> Hobbsee: is it listed in www.linuxprinting.org ?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> rjune: yes, hp deskjet 500 - i think it is
[04:51] <Hobbsee> stupendo44: try "top" in a console
[04:51] <gamma> i get the message in kde printing saying can't connect to cups daemon
[04:51] <rjune> stupendo44: run top, then hit 'M'
[04:51] <rjune> that will sort by memory usage
[04:51] <gamma> even though it's running
[04:51] <whappd> Hobbsee: any ideas?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> rjune: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_500
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Tainted: ^
[04:52] <rjune> similar to VmSizes in ksysguard
[04:52] <Hobbsee> whappd: thought i replied
[04:52] <stupendo44> rjune: it says 10MB free right now
[04:52] <Hobbsee> whappd: [14:45]  <Hobbsee> try force installing both at once - sorry, forgot your nick
[04:52] <stupendo44> I had azureus open a while ago, and I thought maybe closing that would help, but it jumped up and then went right back down to like 5MB free
[04:53] <Hobbsee> stupendo44: use top, and see what's taking up all the processor power
[04:53] <rjune> stupendo44: can you open a shell for me?
[04:53] <stupendo44> Hobbsee: I did
[04:53] <Hobbsee> likely culprit is something like firefox, or oo.o, or something
[04:53] <stupendo44> Hobbsee: I don't have any of the normal memory-hungry programs open. Top shows that the top program is taking 53MB. They drop down quickly from there
[04:53] <rjune> stupendo44: then run free -m for me please
[04:54] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[04:54] <stupendo44> 8 free
[04:54] <rjune> I'm gonna guess you have a lot cached
[04:54] <stupendo44> used 495
[04:54] <stupendo44> swap total 1043, used 110, free 932
[04:54] <rjune> what does it say under cached?
[04:54] <whappd> Hobbsee:
[04:54] <stupendo44> cached 375 for the mem. sorry, didn't see that
[04:55] <whappd> dependency issues prevent configuration
[04:55] <rjune> there ya go.
[04:55] <stupendo44> and buffers 3
[04:55] <stupendo44> rjune: what does that mean?
[04:55] <rjune> you've got a huge cache
[04:55] <stupendo44> rjune: what's the cached. I've never seen that before
[04:55] <Hobbsee> whappd: hmmm
[04:55] <rjune> basicly rather then free the memory, it'll keep the data in case it's needed again
[04:56] <stupendo44> rjune: how do I clear it?
[04:56] <rjune> you don't
[04:56] <rjune> you leave it
[04:56] <rjune> it's a happy thing
[04:56] <stupendo44> rjune: why haven't I seen this until now. Normally closing a program frees it up
[04:56] <rjune> stupendo44: my guess? you don't usually leave the machine up very long
[04:57] <stupendo44> days at a time. Opening and closing many big programs like realbasic, firefox, adobe reader
[04:57] <rjune> opening and closing large apps will keep the cache low
[04:57] <rjune> escpially if you don't have a whole mess of ram
[04:58] <stupendo44> rjune: oh
[04:58] <rjune> seriously unless cache size *AND* free ram approach 0, you're good
[04:58] <rjune> ok, now for my question. does ubuntu have mythtv in the repo?
[04:59] <stupendo44> rjune: ok, thanks
[04:59] <stupendo44> rjune: yes
[05:00] <stupendo44> rjune: 0.18.1-5
[05:02] <rjune> thanks. I'm downloaing the livecd to play with
[05:02] <rjune> how long do ubuntu releases get updates?
[05:02] <pixelbugs> network help?>> I have a usb to ethernet adapter connecting 2 machines running XP.  Network setup worked fine and files are currently transferring.  Is this possible to do with Ubuntu so I can transfer files from kubuntu folder to windows machine?
[05:04] <stupendo44> pixelbugs: is this one cord running from one to another? Do you have an example of what the device is? Basically, if it's acting as a network adapter, then yes you can do it on kubuntu the same as any other network.
[05:04] <stupendo44> rjune: I don't understand the question. Could you rephrase?
[05:04] <pixelbugs> stupendo44, yes, the adapter lets me use a standard ethernet cable (not crossover) to plug into the usb adapter on the windows machine
[05:05] <rjune> Ubuntu releases are every 6 months, how long can I expect updates before I have to isntall a new version?
[05:05] <pixelbugs> stupendo44, are there any special packages i need to install?
[05:06] <stupendo44> pixelbugs: there shouldn't be. I would say just try it and see what happens
[05:06] <pixelbugs> if not, i suppose the rest is a matter of setting up the shared folder on linux right?
[05:06] <stupendo44> pixelbugs: right
[05:06] <pixelbugs> ;)
[05:06] <pixelbugs> thx
[05:06] <pixelbugs> will do as soon as window box is done transferring
[05:06] <stupendo44> pixelbugs: which is an adventure in and of itself... :)
[05:06] <rjune> you could prolly get winsftp or something similar
[05:06] <rjune> and just transfer over ssh
[05:06] <pixelbugs> stupendo44: sure is!
[05:07] <pixelbugs> thx for the tip
[05:07] <pixelbugs> ill come back if it doesn't work
[05:07] <pixelbugs> thx again
[05:09] <stupendo44> rjune: I'm stupid tonight. I still am not sure what you're asking. Are you asking how often there will be package updates? The package updates are irregular. They mostly contain security fixes, but also some bug fixes and new versions. The "new version" upgrade can be done just by changing the repo, so it accesses the latest packages. It's very easy to upgrade a system once a new version is released.
[05:09] <unix_infidel> anyone here use kwifi manager without problems for their wireless device?
[05:10] <rjune> unix_infidel: did you see the ssh -X root@localhost tip?
[05:10] <unix_infidel> sethk: i'm using sethk's method.
[05:10] <stupendo44> unix_infidel: I have no problems at all. oh, wait. I don't use wireless. That would explain it...
[05:10] <rjune> stupendo44: you have release A, six moths later release B comes out.
[05:10] <stupendo44> rjune: right
[05:10] <rjune> at what point does release A stop getting paches/updates
[05:11] <stupendo44> rjune: almost never, really.
[05:11] <stupendo44> rjune: as long as people keep putting out packages...
[05:11] <stupendo44> rjune: I'm sure ubuntu has a policy, but I think it's a few years
[05:11] <rjune> so then you'll have 8 releases getting supported at a time?
[05:11] <unix_infidel> stupendo44: well, many people DO use wireless and turn to ubuntu, which is why i asked.
[05:12] <stupendo44> unix_infidel: yeah, I know. I was just being dumb
[05:12] <unix_infidel> using iwconfig is pretty decent but i'm at abot the point where i'm going to be writing custom scripts if i dont a good gui
[05:12] <rjune> unix_infidel: xhost +localhost? that'll open it up to anybody on the local machine
[05:12] <bbeck> rjune: I had thought I read that dapper was going to be supported for three years.
[05:12] <stupendo44> rjune: yeah, pretty much. I'm not 100% sure on the answer
[05:13] <unix_infidel> rjune: yea.
[05:15] <rjune> ubuntu uses sudo for all root required programs
[05:15] <rjune> right?
[05:15] <unix_infidel> rjune: yea...but i dont like that methodology.
[05:15] <bbeck> rjune: According to wikipedia, dapper will be supported for three years on the desktop and five years as a server. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_linux)
[05:15] <rjune> why not?
[05:15] <rjune> bbeck: thanks.
[05:15] <unix_infidel> regardless, wondering if anyone has had any luck with kwifimanager?
[05:15] <unix_infidel> getting it to function properly and flawlessly.
[05:16] <rjune> unix_infidel: what do you mean?
[05:16] <unix_infidel> rjune: googling kwifimanager and looking to see if there are any huge problems that people are reporting...wondering if anyone her has had any experiences with it.
[05:17] <rjune> unix_infidel: I mean the sudo setup
[05:17] <unix_infidel> rjune: i'm just not used to how ubuntu does sudo vs su.
[05:17] <unix_infidel> i prefer the other method.
[05:17] <rjune> oh, ok.
[05:17] <rjune> I was curious what program ubuntu uses for GUI sudo
[05:18] <unix_infidel> rjune: nono, i meant for kwifimangaer.
[05:18] <unix_infidel> kwifimanager*
[05:18] <stupendo44> rjune: kdesu for kde I know. Not sure about gnome...
[05:18] <unix_infidel> lol...well yea, that's just a gui window prompting for user password.
[05:19] <stupendo44> unix_infidel: that's what he was asking, isn't it?
[05:19] <unix_infidel> that's what HE was asking not I.
[05:19] <unix_infidel> i'm still waiting on a pertinent answer to MY question :P
[05:20] <stupendo44> unix_infidel: I was answering him. I didn't realize you had a question left unanswered.
[05:20] <rjune> stupendo44: kdesu doesn't have sudo support I thought
[05:20] <rjune> stupendo44: I'm wanting to know what it uses for sudo
[05:20] <stupendo44> rjune: kdesu is basically sudo in a gui window. so you can run gui programs as root without going to a terminal
[05:20] <stupendo44> or console, however you say it
[05:21] <rjune> no, kdesu is su in a gui window.
[05:21] <stupendo44> rjune: what it uses?
[05:21] <rjune> sudo is different then su
[05:21] <stupendo44> rjune: my understanding is that sudo is running a program as a certain user, and su is completely changing the user for anything
[05:23] <rjune> su requires the password of the user you want to operate as
[05:23] <stupendo44> from man: su - Change user ID or become super-user
[05:23] <stupendo44> sudo, sudoedit - execute a command as another user
[05:23] <stupendo44> so does sudo
[05:23] <rjune> sudo can be configured to authenticate as the  current user(as mac os x does) or without a password at all
[05:24] <stupendo44> from man: kdesu - Runs a program with elevated privileges.
[05:24] <stupendo44> it does say that it's a frontend to su, though
[05:24] <rjune> ayup
[05:25] <stupendo44> gksu and gksudo
[05:25] <stupendo44> gtk frontends for both
[05:25] <stupendo44> gksu  is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.  Their pri
[05:25] <stupendo44>        mary purpose is to run graphical commands that need  root  without  the
[05:25] <stupendo44>        need to run an X terminal emulator and using su directly.
[05:27] <stupendo44> hmm, I don't see a kde equivalent. I still don
[05:27] <stupendo44> I still don't understand how it would function differently. I need a password to run kdesu
[05:28] <stupendo44> but with ubuntu, it's different
[05:28] <rjune> you don't need a password for sudo
[05:28] <stupendo44> because when I run sudo the password is the same as my password
[05:28] <stupendo44> rjune: why does it ask then?
[05:29] <stupendo44> rjune: I don't understand how you could not need a password. How could you have elivated priveleges without a password? That would be insecure.
[05:29] <michael> amarok crashes on load for me; is uninstalling and reinstalling a likely fix?
[05:29] <rjune> in theory, yes
[05:29] <stupendo44> michael: can't likely hurt, but usually it won't fix it
[05:30] <stupendo44> michael: crashes as soon as it loads?
[05:30] <michael> yes stupendo44
[05:30] <stupendo44> michael: one sec
[05:31] <michael> I get the splash logo for 2 secs and then nothing... sometimes a taskbar button, nothing else... also xmms and kaffeine are not working for me, but beep media player is the only one that works
[05:31] <rjune> stupendo44: limit what you can do as root. and it doesn't have to be insecure
[05:32] <stupendo44> michael: work for anything, or only certain filetypes?
[05:32] <michael> mp3s stupendo44
[05:32] <michael> stupendo44: be right back one sec
[05:32] <stupendo44> rjune: is there a file that determines the permissions sudo has?
[05:32] <rjune>  /etc/sudoers
[05:33] <stupendo44> mine looks like it's set to all
[05:34] <stupendo44> michael: I don't know enough about getting mp3s to work to walk you through it. There's some walkthroughs on the ubuntu and kubuntu forums. They should help you. The information's there, you just have to find it. You can also try over in #amarok
[05:35] <sambagirl> i just instaleld proftpd
[05:36] <rjune> stupendo44: want to see an example config?
[05:36] <stupendo44> rjune: sure
[05:36] <sambagirl> doesnt it have a gui for useing it?
[05:36] <michael> thanks stupendo... Yeah, I figure the info's there somewhere... mpg321 and beep work for mp3s and kaffeine works for ogg... xmms just creates a segmentation fault on load though!  strange for a fresh kubuntu install it seems to me... thanks though stupendo44
[05:36] <stupendo44> sambagirl: no
[05:38] <ba> anyone know about setting up a raid in ubuntu?
[05:38] <stupendo44> michael: yeah, I have my own troubles. I think I have a different program for each filetype. vnc works with more than some others, but doesn't do microsoft format. kaffeine doesn't even load most of the time...
[05:39] <unix_infidel> ba: software raid is a joke man.
[05:39] <michael> stupendo44: ah well good to know i'm not alone :-P
[05:39] <ba> unix_infidel> it isnt for me. i have the ability to do a hardware raid with my asus av8, my uncle wants to know how
[05:40] <unix_infidel> i'd recommenda seperate controller for that.... but whatever.
[05:40] <stupendo44> unix_infidel: I'm curious. what's wrong with software raid. Is it too cpu-intensive?
[05:40] <ba> unix_infidel: he says he had a epox nforce 4 ultra, he  doesnt know the model
[05:40] <ba> are there any how-to's anyway
[05:40] <unix_infidel> stupendo44: you get much more out of hardware raid.
[05:40] <stupendo44> ba: if it's on the motherboard then I think the bios configures it. It should work easily enough in ubuntu
[05:41] <stupendo44> ba: mostly a guess from what I've seen though
[05:42] <stupendo44> ra: here's a little article, don't know if it will help: http://www.linux-sxs.org/hardware/raid_for_idiots.html
[05:42] <ClayG> is there a cli command that shows the processor speed?
[05:42] <stupendo44> ra... ba ra same thing
[05:42] <bimberi> ClayG: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:43] <stupendo44> cli command?
[05:43] <stupendo44> what's cli?
[05:43] <ba> i found your raid for idiots doc
[05:43] <ba> stupendo44: ba and ra were compleatly different people
[05:43] <ba> haha
[05:43] <bimberi> !cli
[05:43] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:43] <trekkor> anybody have any idea how i forward a port with shorewall? which /etc/shorewall file refers to this?
[05:44] <stupendo44> ClayG: what bimberi said
[05:44] <ClayG> thanks
[05:44] <bimberi> ClayG: np :)
[05:45] <stupendo44> anyone here tried REALBasic for Linux?
[05:46] <trekkor> stupendo44: is there any such thing?
[05:46] <stupendo44> trekkor: yes
[05:46] <stupendo44> trekkor: it's free
[05:47] <trekkor> stupendo44: that's nice
[05:48] <stupendo44> trekkor: it is. I used to use VB in windows, and RB was an easy transition. I'm always overwhelmed by any other language. I'd have to take a class or something for it. At least start
[05:49] <trekkor> stupendo44: i see
[05:49] <trekkor> stupendo44: i am considering trying it
[05:51] <stupendo44> trekkor: it's free for noncommercial use on linux, and it will even create time-limited windows binaries. You have to pay for the professional to create unlimited windows binaries.
[05:53] <rjune> stupendo44: I have
[05:53] <stupendo44> rjune: I need a small bit of help with it, do you know a lot about it?
[05:53] <rjune> not so much
[05:54] <rjune> I'll help if I can though
[05:54] <stupendo44> rjune: ok, then you probably wouldn't know about layering objects created at runtime?
[05:54] <rjune> uhm, no
[06:21] <_nate> does anyone know how to, in effect, shrink everything so that it appears as though it is at a higher resolution than it is?
[06:22] <_nate> because I'm at 1024x768, all this monitor supports, and its drivin me crazy
[06:29] <_nate> anyone know how to adjust the font dpi in kde?
[06:30] <ilba7r> _nate check out the font under kde control center
[06:30] <_nate> ilba7r: it jsut has a font installer...
[06:32] <ilba7r> sorry _nate am not using it but i remember i used to change it from kcontrol
[06:32] <_nate> hmm, thanks
[06:33] <ilba7r> :)
[06:45] <_nate> argh!
[07:17] <dell500> !dvd
[07:17] <ubotu> Dvd plyaing is possible in Ubuntu with totem, vlc mplayer and other players. You may need !libdvdcss.
[07:18] <dell500> !libdvdcss
[07:18] <ubotu> well, libdvdcss is DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:31] <E-Train> I just installed a SUNIX USB 2.0 PCI card and when I sudo hdparm -t the usb 2.0 devices i get very slow speeds. One of them is a external hard drive and during mp3 playback it pauses for about 8 seconds after a few minutes of play. Anyone heard or seen this or have some advice
[07:32] <_root> hi people
[07:33] <dell500> i'm not able to get dvd playback for some reason, lidvdcss2 and libdvdread are both installed...
[07:51] <E-Train> I just installed a SUNIX USB 2.0 PCI card and when I sudo hdparm -t the usb 2.0 devices i get very slow speeds. One of them is a external hard drive and during mp3 playback it pauses for about 8 seconds after a few minutes of play. Anyone heard or seen this or have some advice
[07:51] <E-Train> ?
[07:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[07:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am searching for a program
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need to change manually the speed of the cpu
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is very simple... i need only two states
[07:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> full power and NO-FAN
[07:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you suggest me anything?
[08:12] <eightiesk> !mp3
[08:12] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:12] <eightiesk> !xine
[08:12] <ubotu> eightiesk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:13] <ilba7r> !info xine
[08:13] <ilba7r> !+info xine-386
[08:13] <ubotu> Package 'xine-386' does not exist.
[08:13] <boz> !wine
[08:13] <ilba7r> !+info xine-ui
[08:14] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1680 kB, Installed size: 3416 kB
[08:14] <ilba7r> there it is
[08:14] <boz> lol
[08:25] <eightiesk> !mp3
[08:25] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:36] <linux_user400354> can kubuntu cds be order free like the ubuntu cds can?
[08:49] <owner> dont think so
[09:13] <boz> anyone ever get this ?? when i try to install a theme i point it to the theme.tar.gz file and it kicks back the "file format is invalid"  ?? any ideas?
[09:15] <boz> i notice one of the tips is to drag the file into the install themes window.  The tar.gz file??
[09:15] <mr-russ> ar eyou supposed to import tar.gz for themes?
[09:15] <boz> thats what the manual said but it sure isn't working
[09:15] <boz> sounds kinda odd to me too
[09:18] <mr-russ> how do you get to themes in kde, I never use them.
[09:19] <mr-russ> *.kcsrc
[09:19] <mr-russ> that is a theme file.
[09:19] <mr-russ> untar the tar.
[09:21] <boz> lemme try that thanks
[09:28] <eightiesk> !katapult
[09:29] <ubotu> it has been said that katapult is an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[09:34] <_wd_> hey all what is the proper mounting point in kubuntu using the disk and filesystems?
[09:35] <pollo> hi
[09:35] <mr-russ>  /media?
[09:37] <_wd_> mr russ my floppy won't enable
[09:38] <mr-russ> so if you open konq and click media, you don't get a floppy drive?
[09:38] <_wd_> my windows hd is mounted under /media but now all the files show up under media instead of hd first
[09:39] <_wd_> i'll see again
[09:39] <mr-russ> what?
[09:39] <_wd_> is there a media button?
[09:40] <mr-russ> open konq.
[09:40] <mr-russ> Storage Media <- that link
[09:43] <_wd_> mr russ yes i see it but in disk filesystems it shows up as "media/floppy0 disabled
[09:43] <pollo> i want to make some packages that are on sugested packages , what i need to send it to kubuntu when they are completed ?
[09:44] <mr-russ> _wd_: they should, but you are not getting your floppy there when you click on it?
[09:46] <ilba7r> _wd_ can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file
[09:47] <eightiesk> !Azureus
[09:47] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:47] <_wd_> mr russ i just hit enable it said only root can enable, guess what it worked thanks another question for u
[09:54] <stupendo44> when I do 'man nslookup' a bunch of the options say "not implemented". What does this mean?
[09:56] <eightiesk> !limewire
[09:56] <ubotu> limewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[09:56] <_wd_> mr russ i'm trying to make a directory for my windows fat hd, in konsole i typed mkdir media/windows and it says no such file or directory why?
[09:58] <_wd_> hey ubotu what's up been awhile i just loaded kubuntu from ubuntu, nice... i need help look at my recent message above
[09:59] <ilba7r> _wd_, ubotu is a boot <a computer>
[09:59] <poningru> _wd_: ubotu is a bot
[09:59] <poningru> a bot
[09:59] <_wd_> ohh no, was very helpful
[09:59] <ilba7r> :) ok bot
[10:00] <_wd_> help look at message @ 8:58
[10:00] <poningru> dude we are in different timezones
[10:00] <poningru> for me thats a 3:58
[10:01] <poningru> in the morning
[10:01] <stupendo44> me too
[10:01] <_wd_> well here it's 1:01 usa pacificccc
[10:01] <ilba7r> 4:03 am here
[10:01] <poningru> _wd_: regarding your problem make sure you have write access to that partition
[10:02] <_wd_> poningru how do i check
[10:02] <_wd_> poningru sorry under disk filesystem it say writeable
[10:03] <poningru> oh
[10:04] <poningru> hmm
[10:04] <poningru> wait where were you when you typed this?
[10:04] <poningru> as in which directory where you in?
[10:04] <poningru> did you cd into the windows before doing this?
[10:05] <stupendo44> yeah, you probably want 'mkdir /media/windows'
[10:05] <_wd_> poningru in disk and filesystem it says /media but all my files are under media, i want to make a directory under media that says windows "like what's advised in the forum" but when i go to konsole and type mkdir media/windows it says "no such file or directory"
[10:05] <stupendo44> that's because it's by context
[10:05] <stupendo44> if you're in the home directory, there's no "media" directory. I just tried it myself
[10:06] <poningru> dude what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:06] <stupendo44> the "media" directory is off the root (/). So to create a directory, you need to start at the root, which would be mkdir '/media/windows'
[10:06] <_wd_> ok i'll try that
[10:06] <poningru> if you have a windows partition that loads automatically there should be a directory already called /media/windows
[10:07] <stupendo44> you don't need any of the quotes, that was only for clarification
[10:07] <poningru> _wd_: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:07] <stupendo44> poningru: they don't normally mount automatically
[10:07] <poningru> stupendo44: you serious?
[10:07] <poningru> well mine does
[10:07] <stupendo44> poningru: only if you installed it that way
[10:07] <poningru> err did
[10:07] <poningru> I dont remember an option for that
[10:07] <stupendo44> poningru: added after the fact they are not automatically mounted
[10:08] <poningru> _wd_: if you are trying to auto mount your windows partition then download the diskmounter
[10:08] <poningru> !diskmounter
[10:08] <ubotu> [diskmounter]  to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:08] <stupendo44> _wd_: what filesystem is this partition that you are trying to mount?
[10:09] <_wd_> stupend44 vfat
[10:09] <poningru> _wd_: communicate mate, you still havent told us what exactly you want to do
[10:09] <poningru> what the situation is etc.
[10:10] <stupendo44> _wd_: can you give us a story of what's going on so we get a better idea of what you're trying to do?
[10:10] <_wd_> i just want to change my dev/hdd1 "windows hd" to another directory under media because when it's just under media all the files show up on the hd under media
[10:10] <stupendo44> and what's wrong with that?
[10:11] <_wd_> i thought i had to go by the "instructions"
[10:12] <_wd_> which says to create windows directory under media for "other/windows hd" mounting
[10:12] <stupendo44> run 'cat /etc/stab' and paste in in the pastebin
[10:12] <poningru> yes a very good idea
[10:13] <_wd_> run cat under konsole like "cat /etc/stab"
[10:13] <stupendo44> yes
[10:15] <stupendo44> you got it?
[10:16] <_wd_> pasting now
[10:16] <stupendo44> don't paste here
[10:16] <stupendo44> paste on the Kubuntu Pastebin
[10:16] <poningru> !pastebin
[10:16] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:16] <poningru> didnt know kubuntu had its own pastebin
[10:17] <stupendo44> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:17] <_wd_> ok it's there
[10:17] <stupendo44> looks like it's already being mounted correctly
[10:18] <stupendo44> in /media/windows, which is normal
[10:18] <poningru> so where?
[10:18] <stupendo44> poningru: where what?
[10:18] <poningru> I see it
[10:19] <poningru> he didnt link it
[10:19] <poningru> so...
[10:19] <poningru> but found it
[10:19] <stupendo44> he doesn't need to
[10:19] <_wd_> stupendo44, i did it before i post
[10:19] <_wd_> so everything is ok
[10:19] <poningru> _wd_: so what exactly is the prob dude?
[10:19] <poningru> _wd_: everything is ok
[10:20] <stupendo44> _wd_: What prompted your original question? Was there a problem with something? You mentioned that the windows hard drive wasn't where you thought it was, but it looks like it's already where you want ti.
[10:20] <_wd_> nothing now , well, when i went to use my files i went to media and all the files were there but i was told it should be media/windows
[10:20] <stupendo44> *it
[10:20] <stupendo44> ah, ok...
[10:21] <stupendo44> but did you change the fstab?
[10:21] <_wd_> i guess i just wanted a little more organization
[10:21] <stupendo44> because that wouldn't change just by creating a directory
[10:21] <stupendo44> which is understandable
[10:21] <poningru> _wd_: you sure its in /media?
[10:21] <poningru> cause your file says otherwise
[10:21] <stupendo44> poningru: he said it was, and isn't anymore
[10:21] <poningru> oh
[10:21] <_wd_> at least now i know to look for the windows directory for my windows hd
[10:22] <poningru> hmm weird
[10:22] <stupendo44> yeah, I'm confused
[10:22] <stupendo44> it doesn't seem to me like you've changed anything
[10:22] <stupendo44> your fstab would remain the same unless you specifically changed it
[10:22] <_wd_> i just added a directory "windows" right?
[10:23] <stupendo44> which would mean that it would either mount the windows hd into /media/windows, or fail and not mount it at all. So I don't think that it was mounted directly under /media
[10:23] <stupendo44> maybe, and then what did you do
[10:23] <stupendo44> after you tried to create the directory, did you run "mount" or anything?
[10:24] <_wd_> i used the disk and filesystems utility and changed the mount location after i created the directory "windows"
[10:25] <stupendo44> oh, ok
[10:25] <stupendo44> that makes sense now
[10:25] <_wd_> i saw something about automount?
[10:26] <stupendo44> yeah, I don't know much about that
[10:26] <_wd_> ok
[10:26] <poningru> _wd_: when you start up ubuntu does it not mount your window partition?
[10:26] <stupendo44> poningru: it will not, because it's in the fstab
[10:27] <stupendo44> *now, not not
[10:27] <stupendo44> bad mistake
[10:27] <_wd_> at first no, i had to use the disk and filesystem utility in kubuntu, it's really easy interface
[10:27] <poningru> right true
[10:27] <poningru> hmm I should switch to kde
[10:27] <poningru> everything seems easier
[10:27] <poningru> atleast thats what people say
[10:27] <poningru> it wasnt like this about a year and a half ago
[10:29] <_wd_> i had ubuntu at first but those command lines were killing me..... i'm a real newbie but i learn fast. i wanted to stay true to the "ubuntu" code of honor but i chicken out and went for the graphical interface and easy navigatiing of the kde instead of the gnome
[10:30] <stupendo44> kde is so much better
[10:30] <stupendo44> gnome is ugly too
[10:30] <_wd_> stupendo44 r u kde?
[10:30] <stupendo44> get some color, guys!
[10:30] <stupendo44> yes
[10:30] <_wd_> wow
[10:30] <_wd_> wow
[10:30] <stupendo44> kubuntu 5.10
[10:30] <_wd_> same here
[10:30] <_wd_> tonight
[10:31] <_wd_> i had ubuntu but it wouldn't find my lexmark printer, my scanner all my hpna home network usb device man i was crying
[10:33] <_wd_> then this programmer told me to try suse 10, it would configure everthing, especially since it's a brand name "novell". i did and it's nice. i loaded the kde on that. but i like ubuntu so i figured i'll try the kde for it, man i am happy. my printer isn't working still so dual boot to xp when i want to print
[10:34] <_wd_> i'll just by a linux compatible printer next week
[10:34] <_wd_> ooops i mean buy
[10:39] <tristan_> Hello, someone here?
[10:40] <mr-russ> possibly
[10:40] <poningru> is this the famous tristan?
[10:40] <poningru> guess not
[10:41] <tristan_> No
[10:41] <tristan_> I'd like to know how do I install a thme for KDE? I have downloaded one wih the extension .kth and I don't know how to install....
[10:42] <poningru> just go to the theme manager
[10:42] <hawking> everytime I open KDE I get "klipper crashed" message saying it crashed and sent some signal... why does that happen? is this a bug? I am usin kde 3.5?
[10:43] <tristan_> Where is it loacted. I canot find it in my kde menu
[10:43] <_wd_> poningru and stupendo44 hey guys check this out, look at the right side of this screen shot this isn't gkrellm, what is this program? http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=530&slide=5&title=bintoo+gnu/linux+0.1a+screenshots
[10:44] <aeon17x> klipper also crashes a lot for me
[10:44] <hawking> aeon17x : do you know the reason?
[10:44] <aeon17x> *shrug*
[10:45] <hawking> :/
[10:45] <aeon17x> If you're using advanced GUI features like transparencies, the chances that kicker'll crash go up, it seems.
[10:45] <stupendo44> _wd_: I'm not sure.
[10:45] <tristan_> I cannot find theme manager in kde. any command line to launch it?
[10:46] <poningru> tristan_: hmm
[10:46] <poningru> it should be in the control panel
[10:46] <poningru> iirc
[10:46] <mr-russ> system settings -> appearance
[10:46] <mr-russ> "Color Scheme" section
[10:46] <_wd_> oh stupendo44 how long kubuntu?
[10:46] <stupendo44> _wd_: 6 months
[10:47] <Tm_T> _wd_: ?
[10:47] <_wd_> 2 days after fighting with command lines for 45
[10:48] <Tm_T> _wd_: that is SuperKaramba with systeminfo theme or something like that
[10:48] <tristan_> mr-russ : where is system settings. Cannot find it too... Sorry
[10:48] <stupendo44> Tm_T: I was trying to remember what that was called
[10:49] <_wd_> hey thanks
[10:49] <Tm_T> stupendo44: kde-look.org or kde-apps.org helps
[10:50] <_wd_> u guys had printer problems if so did u purchase linux compat
[10:51] <Tm_T> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=11405
[10:51] <Tm_T> there's one similar
[10:52] <_wd_> nice
[10:53] <_wd_> hey guys after u download a file for install how do u install it? i mean i dl mozilla in ubuntu and couldn't find where it was to unzip it.
[10:54] <Tm_T> err, it depends
[10:54] <_wd_> then i saw in the universe the old program was there but i wanted the 1.5
[10:54] <Tm_T> ubotu: firefox
[10:54] <_wd_> yes
[10:55] <Tm_T> !firefox1.5
[10:55] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:55] <Tm_T> your welcome
[10:55] <Tm_T> ;)
[10:55] <Tm_T> ubotu: thanks
[10:55] <ubotu> Tm_T: bitte
[10:55] <_wd_> thanks but after i dl how do i execute
[10:56] <Tm_T> _wd_: did you read that wikipage?
[10:56] <_wd_> sorry i am now
[10:56] <Tm_T> ok
[10:56] <Tm_T> I'm gone ->
[10:58] <_wd_> good night everyone or should i say good morning, i'm off to bed. thank u all.
[11:01] <tristan_> Please, someone tell me how to install my .kth theme. When I right click on it and click install it does nothing or at least it does not change the theme and I cannot find the theme manager....
[11:11] <_ole> greetings. i am quite new to linux, and just installed kubuntu. now i got a simple question: whats the ebst quake2 linux client ? :] 
[11:15] <bobesponja> hey all
[11:15] <bobesponja> how can I add w3c validator to the Tools in konqueror?
[11:20] <_ole> (oh ye, is it possible to have shortcut favorites in a toolbar of konquerer like at firefox ?) thx upfront for help :] 
[11:21] <_ole> oh ye one more question. whats the diffrence between a deb and a rpm package of a tool ? :?
[11:22] <squid0> deb is in the format for a Debian (-based) distribution, rpm is a similar format for others, such as red hat
[11:22] <_ole> kubuntu is debian, right ?
[11:22] <bimberi> debian-based yes
[11:23] <auturge> Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) are derived from Debian.
[11:23] <auturge> They use the same packaging infrastructure.
[11:23] <bobesponja> _ole: right click on tool bar and go to tool bar and select the bookmark tool bar
[11:23] <squid0> _ole: although you can use a tool called alien to convert from rpm to .deb
[11:23] <_ole> thx alot
[11:24] <squid0> pleasure
[11:26] <bunghole> how can I order 1 free ubuntu cd for myself?
[11:26] <bunghole> or sorry, LUBUNTU cd
[11:26] <bunghole> doh
[11:26] <bunghole> Kubuntu cd, I need 1
[11:26] <auturge> Is there even a shipit for Kubuntu?
[11:26] <bobesponja> does anybody know could I add w3c validator to the Tools in konqueror?
[11:27] <auturge> No. There is not.
[11:27] <bobesponja> auturge: not yet
[11:27] <bunghole> bobesponja, I use firefox
[11:27] <bimberi> only for people who can spell the name properly :P
[11:27] <auturge> bunghole: the free CDs are only available for Ubuntu (at the moment)
[11:27] <bunghole> that probably doesn' thelp much does it
[11:27] <squid0> auturge: they're possibly planning one. apparently if they can get ubuntu live + install on one cd, they may ship kubuntu on a separate cd too
[11:27] <bobesponja> auturge: there should be for shipit with the next version
[11:27] <bunghole> kubuntu is good
[11:27] <bunghole> there are just a few things i can' tfind and its pissing me off
[11:28] <bunghole> for one, kmenupdating tool
[11:28] <bunghole> i can't find it
[11:28] <squid0> bunghole: ask on kde for stuff you can't find
[11:28] <squid0> #kde
[11:28] <bunghole> update-menus only works for debian menu
[11:28] <bunghole> but its available on the regular kde menu in debian sid
[11:28] <bunghole> its not a kde issue, its a kubuntu issue
[11:29] <bunghole> i installed the kubuntu-dekstop package and kde meta package on ubuntu.
[11:29] <bunghole> i'll ask there too
[11:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to execute emifreq, a gnome applet to control CPU in KDE?
[11:29] <bunghole> watch me get the run around
[11:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or in general a gnome applet in KDE
[11:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> please answer me..
[11:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  i'd like to know before going to bed
[11:30] <auturge> GNOME applications can be run in KDE, yes. But eww.
[11:30] <_ole> hmm i wanted to install the org bittorent client. the debian package had 3 files in it. where do i put thoose, and what do i do with them. i know theese are newbie questions you prolly get alot every day and sick to answer it. and i am sorry if i didnt see the manual for thios. :(
[11:31] <auturge> bunghole..
[11:31] <bunghole> squid0, yup, as I thought, they told me to ask in #kubuntu
[11:31] <squid0> lol
[11:31] <auturge> Right-click on the K-menu icon.
[11:31] <bunghole> squid0,  you could try and be a bit more useful than giving me a run around there
[11:32] <squid0> i could
[11:32] <bunghole> auturge, im not trying to get to kmenuedit
[11:32] <bunghole> im trying to get to the kmenuupdate thingy
[11:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> auturge: how?
[11:32] <bunghole> two seperate entities
[11:32] <auturge> ole: it is very preferable to install Ubuntu packages wherever available, rather than Debian packages
[11:32] <auturge> !info bittorrent
[11:32] <ubotu> bittorrent: (Scatter-gather network file transfer), section net, is optional. Version: 3.4.2-3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 86 kB, Installed size: 536 kB
[11:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> auturge: that gnome APPLET is the only thing that i need
[11:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i can't find a way to execute it or to include it in KDE kicker
[11:33] <squid0> bunghole: what does that package do
[11:33] <squid0> ?
[11:34] <bunghole> its called kappfinder
[11:34] <bunghole> and its not in my friggin kubuntu desktop
[11:34] <bunghole> anywhere
[11:34] <auturge> ole - the standard BitTorrent client is an official Ubuntu package, you should be able to install it using Adept or Synaptic or apt-get
[11:34] <squid0> just answer my question
[11:34] <bunghole> dpkg regurgitattes the same crap, it is installed
[11:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> bunghole: are you speaking with me?
[11:34] <bunghole> squid0, you're question was answered
[11:35] <bunghole> Tallia1Kubuntu, no
[11:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> have you got an answer for me too?
[11:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gnome applets in kde...... is it possible?
[11:35] <squid0> Tallia1Kubuntu: as far as i know, it's not
[11:35] <bunghole> I don't think can have gnome panel applets in kicker
[11:35] <squid0> look around for a kde applet that does the same thig
[11:35] <bunghole> but you can run gnome-panel
[11:35] <bunghole> and save session
[11:35] <squid0> you may also be interested in superkaramba
[11:36] <auturge> My kicker gives me a "add non-KDE application" to panel option
[11:36] <auturge> Right-click the panel, add application to panel->add non-KDE application
[11:36] <squid0> *application*, not applet
[11:37] <auturge> bunghole, you're trying to get kappfinder?
[11:38] <_ole> auturge:  thx. gonna goolge apt-get now :] 
[11:38] <auturge> ole - Adept is easier
[11:38] <auturge> look on your System menu.
[11:38] <_ole> package manager ?
[11:38] <auturge> Yes.
[11:38] <auturge> The package name is simply "bittorrent"
[11:39] <_ole> k thx
[11:39] <auturge> bunghole: apt-get
[11:39] <auturge> !info kappfinder
[11:39] <ubotu> kappfinder: (non-KDE application finder for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 251 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[11:39] <auturge> Non-default Ubuntu package.
[11:39] <bunghole> its already installed
[11:40] <auturge> ah.
[11:40] <bunghole> its not in system
[11:40] <bunghole> dpkg -L tells me the shortcut is in /system/
[11:40] <bunghole> but its not
[11:40] <_ole> cant find a bittorent package :?
[11:41] <bunghole> _ole, ktorrent/qtorrent/Azuerues/
[11:41] <bunghole> _ole, apt-cache search torrent
[11:41] <auturge> !info bittorrent
[11:41] <ubotu> bittorrent: (Scatter-gather network file transfer), section net, is optional. Version: 3.4.2-3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 86 kB, Installed size: 536 kB
[11:41] <auturge> !info ktorrent
[11:41] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[11:41] <auturge> Which version are you running, ole?
[11:42] <_ole> where do i check this ?
[11:42] <_ole> konsole cmd vor verison checking ?
[11:42] <auturge> Hm, no, version shouldn't really matter.
[11:43] <auturge> Are you saying bittorrent just doesn't show up in Adept? I see it.
[11:44] <auturge> Several, in fact.
[11:44] <chakie_work> personally i recomment ktorrent
[11:44] <_ole> adept = ? its not in my ->system->packagemanage
[11:44] <auturge> Oh, I see.
[11:45] <auturge> The file /etc/lsb-release says what version of Kubuntu you're running.. is it Hoary?
[11:46] <_ole> strnage packer manager also saiys i got firefoxy installed. cant find it :?
[11:47] <auturge> It sounds like you're running Hoary Hedgehog and that's why you don't have Adept - it was added in Breezy.
[11:47] <auturge> The old package manager should work too, but you might want to consider upgrading to Breezy.
[11:48] <_ole> how do i do that ?
[11:48] <auturge> !breezy
[11:48] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:49] <auturge> Breezy is the current release of Ubuntu/Kubuntu. I think you're on the previous one, Hoary.
[11:49] <_ole> oh and hoow do i set double click to open things instead of one click ? i get double windows all the time :] 
[11:50] <auturge> I can't tell you exactly because I'm running a newer version where some things have been moved around - but check out the mouse preferences.
[11:52] <auturge> Anyway, if you want the quickest easiest way to get a BitTorrent client right now, type in Konsole: sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[11:52] <_ole> ok. i am working on the upgrade.
[11:52] <auturge> -or- sudo apt-get install ktorrent for the KDE GUI version
[11:52] <auturge> Or if you're upgrading do that later :)
[11:53] <auturge> Adept and apt-get do the same thing, one with a GUI and one at the command line. But on the older version you're running, it's not Adept, it's the Synaptic Package Manager.
[11:53] <auturge> You'll see that change soon since you're upgrading.
[11:53] <_ole> couldnt find package
[11:54] <_ole> na i try to upgrade, doenst work tho ... dont know what "sudo apt-get install bittorrent" means
[11:54] <_ole> ups
[11:54] <_ole> Change your repositories to look for Breezy" means
[11:56] <auturge> OK - have you ever used the command line?
[11:57] <_ole> ye using it now. works . thx :] 
[11:57] <auturge> Are you using the apt-get version of the instructions, or the package manager version?
[11:58] <_ole> apt-get works
[11:58] <_ole> package manager ddnt
[11:58] <auturge> I was about to say.. I recommend apt-get
[11:58] <_ole> since i didint knwo how to make the changes :(
[11:58] <auturge> The package manager instructions assume familiarity with Synaptic.
[11:58] <auturge> Note, you should ignore step 4 in the post-upgrade part.
[11:59] <_ole> ok
[11:59] <_ole> why ?
[11:59] <auturge> It's for Ubuntu but not Kubuntu.
[11:59] <_ole> ah ye. gnome
[12:00] <_ole> whats NFS ? (thx for all the help btw)
[12:00] <auturge> Network File System - it's the UNIX method of sharing disks across a network.
[12:00] <auturge> Rather like SMB is the Windows way to do that.
[12:01] <_ole> ok. then i dont use it. (thaught it might be need for speed :P )
[12:02] <_ole> btw i tried to unrar something from my backup cd. and it said: no can do sir. not authorised. ask your admin.
[12:03] <_ole> what might be the problem
[12:03] <panteraazul> anyone?
[12:04] <auturge> Anyone!
[12:04] <auturge> I don't know, ole - unrar how?
[12:04] <panteraazul> do u want to unrar a file?
[12:05] <panteraazul> i dont understund y
[12:05] <panteraazul> u
[12:08] <_ole> ark
[12:08] <_ole> its a .rar file from my old windows days
[12:09] <auturge> How did you try to unrar it?
[12:10] <auturge> !info unrar
[12:10] <auturge> ah
[12:10] <auturge> !info unrar-free
[12:10] <ubotu> unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[12:20] <cjreig> Hey people. Does anyone here know how to enable audio notifications in Kopete?
[12:23] <_ole> sorry had to to dishes
[12:24] <_ole> auturge: ark should do it, shouldnt it ?
[12:25] <_ole> btw the kubuntu clock is bugged. saisa 13:30 for my timezone, but its definatly 12:30
[12:25] <_ole> brb reboot
[12:31] <hDp`> #Groahrg pournoufaireplaiz ?
[12:38] <DexterF> hi
[12:38] <DexterF> where is "file associations" from kcontrol in kubuntu? can't see it in that osx-copycat
[12:40] <JohnFlux> DexterF: in konqueror go to settings
[12:41] <JohnFlux> configure konqueror
[12:41] <JohnFlux> then file associations
[12:42] <DexterF> ah.. of course.. thanks
[12:43] <LeeJunFan> kcontrol is still there too - just not an entry in the menu for it.
[12:51] <DexterF> bad idea hiding options from users to make the system look alike something else imo.
[12:52] <auturge> I'm not a fan of making systems look like other systems at all.
[12:52] <auturge> If I want an interface that looks and feels like OS X.. hey look, there's a PowerBook to my left.
[12:55] <_ole_> back
[12:56] <_ole_> auturge:  got another question.
[12:57] <_ole_> prolyl in fawq, but i am bit short in time right now
[12:57] <auturge> ole - Ark is just a front end to command line tools. It won't be able to deal with a .rar unless you install unrar and rar.
[12:57] <_ole_> whats the standart root pwd
[12:57] <auturge> There isn't one.
[12:57] <auturge> The standard is to use sudo.
[12:57] <_ole_> hmm...
[12:57] <auturge> root login is normally disabled on an Ubuntu system.
[12:57] <_ole_> need it for kpackage
[12:58] <Vampis> hm, I installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu installation yesterday and I had problems with Konqeror
[12:58] <Vampis> When I used it , it locked the whole computer
[12:58] <auturge> It's asking for your own login password.
[12:58] <_ole_> yes
[12:58] <_ole_> when i said install amrked
[12:58] <Vampis> Forcing me to reboot, is this a known problem, or maybe something that will dissapear if I make a clean installation with Kubuntu ?
[12:59] <auturge> I'm not sure there's anyone here with a good answer for you, Vampis.
[12:59] <dark_suic> Vampis, it's still happening?
[12:59] <auturge> ole, I mean, I think you'll find it's asking you to enter your own password, not the root password.
[01:00] <_ole_> adept works (now i have adept)
[01:00] <_ole_> na it said root:
[01:00] <_ole_> and mine didnit work
[01:00] <_ole_> anyways. adept works
[01:00] <manveru> hey guys, anyone knows why the latest version of mplayer is over half a year old?
[01:00] <Vampis> dark_suic, It happend like 4 times in 15 minutes, so I got tired of It, threw it out and now i use Gnome
[01:00] <manveru> no news in the meanwhile, no updates, no new files...
[01:01] <auturge> !info mplayer
[01:02] <auturge> *cough*
[01:02] <manveru> ^^
[01:02] <manveru> ubotu sleeps?
[01:02] <ubotu> manveru: What?
[01:02] <manveru> !info mplayer
[01:02] <manveru> uhm, well...
[01:02] <dark_suic> Vampis, did you had KDE last version?
[01:02] <auturge> mplayer is in multiverse.
[01:03] <manveru> !info mplayer-k7
[01:03] <ubotu> mplayer-k7: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[01:03] <auturge> Is that the package you've got installed?
[01:03] <Vampis> dark_suic, 3.4.x , I didnt feel that the 3.5 would be stable enough :)
[01:03] <auturge> mplayer-k7?
[01:03] <DexterF> how can I rescan the scsi bus?
[01:03] <manveru> hmm, well i've got an amd :)
[01:03] <auturge> breezy?
[01:04] <manveru> however, the latest version was 1.0pre7 - dates back to 2005.06.19
[01:04] <auturge> mplayer-k7 was replaced by mplayer-k6
[01:04] <Vampis> dark_suic, the latest one from the repositories
[01:04] <auturge> Are you on breezy? hoary?
[01:04] <Vampis> Breezy
[01:04] <auturge> !info mplayer-k6
[01:04] <ubotu> mplayer-k6: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3683 kB, Installed size: 8072 kB
[01:04] <auturge> manveru?
[01:05] <manveru> auturge: hmm
[01:05] <auturge> Are you breezy or hoary?
[01:05] <manveru> well, it's a month younger then
[01:05] <manveru> breezy
[01:05] <auturge> That's only four months old - far cry from a year and a half.
[01:05] <auturge> Newer is in dapper.
[01:05] <manveru> however, i wonder what happened to it
[01:06] <manveru> there is no newer one...
[01:06] <manveru> check the mplayer-page
[01:06] <auturge> 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu1: all
[01:06] <auturge> is in dapper.
[01:06] <dark_suic> Vampis, kde 3.5.0 IS stable :P
[01:06] <dark_suic> in fact i have 3.5.1 now (and it's quite stable)
[01:06] <manveru> auturge: that's only the build-date - same version...
[01:06] <Vampis> dark_suic, hm, maybee should try it then :)
[01:06] <weedar> Anyone had success using dreamweaver or flash on kubuntu?
[01:06] <dark_suic> i've knew of some people who had a similar problem
[01:07] <dark_suic> kde crashing with everything (although not the complete computer)
[01:07] <dark_suic> and after updating to kde 3.5 all went ok
[01:07] <auturge> In other words, you're saying it's current.
[01:08] <Vampis> dark_suic,  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[01:08] <Vampis>   , that one should be enough in the repository ?
[01:08] <auturge> Only, actually
[01:08] <auturge> 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu1: all *is* newer
[01:08] <auturge> The version string is saying it's from cvs as of 17 January.
[01:08] <auturge> But that doesn't matter, it's dapper only.
[01:08] <dark_suic> that's it, Vampis
[01:08] <manveru> auturge: hmm, well - it does
[01:08] <auturge> Ignore all of this nonsense, kill mplayer-k7 and install mplayer-k6.
[01:08] <auturge> Sorted.
[01:08] <manveru> auturge: i would have liked mplayer for windows :)
[01:09] <Vampis> dark_suic, I'll try that then :)
[01:09] <manveru> auturge: but still i will install the k7... - i'm only searching for a recent mplayer for win... (have to use the machine - wich has a incredible large screen and using mplayer on it would have been sweet)
[01:10] <auturge> auturge, the mplayer-k7 package is obsoleted.
[01:10] <Vampis> dark_suic, install kubuntu-desktop aught to be enough ?
[01:10] <auturge> It has been replaced. You should delete it.
[01:10] <auturge> er
[01:10] <auturge> manveru
[01:10] <auturge> Who am I again?
[01:10] <manveru> lol
[01:10] <manveru> yeah, doing that, don't worry
[01:10] <manveru> didn't know that k6 is newer than k7...
[01:10] <auturge> For Windows, you want vlc.
[01:11] <manveru> hmm, that's an idea
[01:11] <dark_suic> it should, vampis, but if you didn't uninstall kde
[01:12] <dark_suic> upgrading the packages should be enough
[01:12] <Vampis> I did uninstall it
[01:12] <dark_suic> ok, then that's the solution :P
[01:12] <Vampis> Its all downloaded now
[01:12] <Vampis> :)
[01:12] <dark_suic> i can't say that this will be the solution to the problem, but may be, just a few minutes lost if it doesn't work :)
[01:12] <Vampis> Exactly :)
[01:12] <Vampis> Worth trying
[01:13] <dark_suic> :)
[01:14] <Vampis> Soon finished :D
[01:15] <Vampis> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[01:15] <Vampis> wtf
[01:19] <hDp`> #Groahrg pournoufaireplaiz ?
[01:20] <Vampis> dark_suic, the big test now ;)
[01:20] <Vampis> *poff*
[01:21] <_ole> hmm i installed firefox, but i dont see it anywhere. how do i open itz ?
[01:21] <_ole> beside console firefox
[01:22] <dark_suic> alt+f2
[01:23] <dark_suic> firefox
[01:24] <_ole> thx
[01:25] <Vampis> dark_suic, Hm, not hanged yet
[01:25] <Vampis> :)
[01:26] <dark_suic> kool :)
[01:27] <Vampis> dark_suic, Now I'm using konq* as much as possible to see what happens :)
[01:29] <dark_suic> ok :)
[01:29] <dark_suic> you'll tellme how it goes :
[01:29] <dark_suic> :)
[01:34] <Vampis> dark_suic, ofcourse :)
[01:37] <Vampis> dark_suic, so far so good :P
[01:39] <dark_suic> kool :D
[01:41] <raphink> konq rocks
[01:46] <WolfT> hey everyone
[01:46] <Hobbsee> hi
[01:47] <WolfT> I am (Wolf, Tainted-Time, Tainted...all the others).
[01:47] <WolfT> :P
[01:48] <dark_suic> lol
[01:48] <dark_suic> well, Vampis it seems that worked correcly, didn't it?
[01:49] <dark_suic> i've had a bad day, i'm happy actually something worked :)
[01:50] <WolfT> dark_suic: How do I upgrade to 3.5.1?
[02:02] <Vampis> dark_suic: So far so good :D
[02:06] <Vampis> Hm, how do I get KDE to NOT save the session? I want a fresh session everytime I log in
[02:06] <Hobbsee> controls are in kcontrol or system settings
[02:07] <Hobbsee> Vampis: session manager
[02:07] <Hobbsee> under kde components
[02:07] <Hobbsee> and modify the checkbox under "on login"
[02:08] <Vampis> *looking*
[02:08] <Vampis> found it :)
[02:08] <Vampis> Thank you :)
[02:09] <Hobbsee> :) no problems
[02:17] <hDp`> #Groahrg pournoufaireplaiz ?
[02:19] <[Vampis] > Hms, I cant find any valid icon themes
[02:19] <[Vampis] > DOH
[02:19] <[Vampis] > It's good if you look @ the right place :D
[02:27] <melonipoika> hi all, anyone knows how to configure the tv output in kde? i plug the s-video cable, but i can't find any menu to choose tv output or anything like that...
[02:32] <weedar> melonipoika, depends on what card you have, but you have to install some software
[02:33] <melonipoika> thanks, i found in a forum to install i855-crt, i am doing it now
[02:33] <melonipoika> i have a intel extreme graphics, it is a toshiba laptop
[02:36] <weedar> not sure what to use with intel, I'm an nvidia-man myself :)
[02:36] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[02:36] <melonipoika> i will try if it works now
[02:36] <melonipoika> bye!
[02:36] <weedar> good luck! :)
[02:36] <melonipoika> thanks :D
[02:58] <_ole> ok i am back formore :] 
[02:59] <_ole> i just shoot away. before i installed kubuntu, i once made a partition on my hdd (with part.magic) for backup data. now this 40 gig backup is still there, but i cant open it. nor do i know how/where to find it. all my music etc are there
[03:02] <_ole> i didint format it on installation. i am 100% sure
[03:08] <_ole> btw., i still need help unraring this file. i tried this: installing unrar-free packet. open konsole: do unrar-free quake2.rar
[03:08] <_ole> but all files failed (error 407)
[03:30] <kitsch> lol
[03:30] <laga> :)
[03:45] <auturge> Google has confirmed it is working on a desktop linux project called Goobuntu, but declined to supply further details, including what the project is for.
[03:45] <WolfT> wo
[03:45] <WolfT> w
[03:45] <WolfT> really?
[03:45] <laga> goobuntu sounds rather..umm..adult.
[03:45] <WolfT> Lol
[03:50] <_ole> lol
[03:50] <_ole> better then uboogle
[03:50] <Outlook> lol
[03:51] <laga> :))
[03:54] <_ole> anyone got time to answer a small question ?
[03:56] <howcomes> #goobuntu
[03:56] <_ole> i dl sdl-quake2-client for linux. i gto 5 "tar.bz2.tar" files and a "makefile" and a "module.mk" aynone tell me what to do with it ?
[03:57] <trappist> _ole: sudo apt-get install quake2 quake2-bin quake2-data
[03:58] <_ole> but thats not sdl-quake2 then, is it ?
[04:00] <trappist> _ole: it supports X11, SDL and SVGAlib rendering
[04:00] <trappist> and opengl
[04:00] <_ole> ok
[04:00] <_ole> but it says: quake2.bin is not avaibale
[04:00] <trappist> _ole: my bad, it's provided by the quake2 package - so, just quake2 and quake2-data
[04:01] <_ole> thx. i did that.
[04:01] <_ole> now how do i start it ?
[04:01] <trappist> quake2
[04:02] <_ole> pushed f2. typed quake2: Could not run the specified command.
[04:02] <trappist> if I run it from the command line it wants me to acknowledge a disclaimer
[04:03] <trappist> maybe /usr/games isn't in your $PATH
[04:04] <tristan_> hello
[04:04] <_ole> there is no quake2 in usr/games/ :?
[04:04] <tristan_> Is there anyway to automatically clear the history upon exiting in konqueror?
[04:05] <_ole> yes. you can set that inpreferences i think
[04:05] <tristan_> _ole : I did not find it in pref...
[04:06] <_ole> true. cna only specify a daytime. sorry
[04:06] <_ole> mozilla firefox has this setting
[04:07] <_ole> but i am new here too. :)
[04:07] <tristan_> _ole : yes I know I use both but I thought that konqueror would have it...
[04:16] <WolfT> Well. I want goobuntu.
[04:17] <_ole> ok again. please. i extracted the tar files. now i got a "makrfile" a "modul.mk" and lots of other files where most are ***.h
[04:17] <_ole> how do i get the binary out of it :?
[04:18] <WolfT> Which file?
[04:18] <_ole> sdlquake2
[04:18] <WolfT> Where did you get it from?
[04:18] <_ole> r1ch.net forum link. wait a moment
[04:19] <_ole> http://koti.mbnet.fi/~turol/
[04:20] <_ole> got lost of ***.h and ***.c files
[04:20] <_ole> :?
[04:20] <WolfT> .h are Header Files.
[04:20] <WolfT> .c are the programming language C files.
[04:20] <_ole> alright. do i need to compile it or something ?
[04:20] <WolfT> Yeah.
[04:20] <WolfT> Do you know how?
[04:20] <_ole> can you tell me how ?
[04:20] <_ole> nope i dont.
[04:21] <WolfT> I'm not the most experienced..but, I can't explain things.
[04:21] <wolf> Hm..
[04:22] <_ole> :(
[04:23] <_ole> any idea ?
[04:24] <_ole> like compile *.c :P
[04:24] <Tainted> Lol, go to the folder in a Konsole.
[04:24] <_ole> i am
[04:24] <Tainted> type in './configure'
[04:24] <_ole> bash: ./configure: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[04:25] <_ole> means: file or folder not found
[04:25] <Tainted> ok.
[04:25] <Tainted> Hold on give me a link to the file you downloaded.
[04:25] <_ole> bash: ./configure: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[04:25] <_ole> ups
[04:25] <_ole>  http://koti.mbnet.fi/~turol/
[04:25] <_ole> sdlquake2
[04:27] <Tainted> Ok, you said you extracted the contents of the bz2 right?
[04:27] <_ole> yes
[04:27] <_ole> to ym orginal quake2 folder
[04:30] <Tainted> Type in 'make'
[04:30] <_ole> ok
[04:31] <_ole> getting some inda error msg
[04:31] <_ole> can i pm you ?
[04:31] <Tainted> I'm sorry, I have no idea what to do.
[04:31] <Tainted> I'm a linux newb myself.
[04:31] <_ole> ok thx
[04:41] <_ole> aynone knwo what cl_ents.d is ?
[04:51] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:52] <dark_suic> hi
[04:52] <admrl_> if i do grep sorted: blah and get sorted:  1 2 3 4 and i direct that output to $sorted
[04:53] <admrl_> is there a way to take sorted:?? out of the variable
[05:03] <sweet_kate> hello:  once given "sudo aptitude install wine" i get a warning message about non secure packages.. is it normal that it alerts me?
[05:14] <sweet_kate> how can i write a floppy in order to be viewed also on windows?
[05:25] <dark_suic> sweet_kate, it depends on the error message that wine gives
[05:25] <dark_suic> and you can write a floppy the same way that in windows
[05:25] <dark_suic> and it will be windows-readable given you don't format it in ext2-3 format
[05:25] <howcomes> Updated my desktop/theme again :D -> http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/3815/desktop15lj.png
[05:26] <Blejdfist> interesting hostname you got
[05:26] <howcomes> thx
[05:26] <_wd_> hey does kopete have sound
[05:26] <howcomes> was actually wondering how to change that
[05:26] <howcomes> i just hit enter during install
[05:27] <Blejdfist> just edit /etc/hostname
[05:27] <Blejdfist> and then run hostname --file /etc/hostname
[05:28] <Blejdfist> the last step can be skipped if you reboot.. :P
[05:28] <Blejdfist> you might want to edit the /etc/hosts also to reflect your changes
[05:30] <_wd_>  hey i tried to adept / upgrade and it tells me to run as root so i log in then it says "it will open in read only to open as root" i thought i did.
[05:36] <howcomes> sudo: unable to lookup x1-6-00-0a-e6-b7-13-c6 via gethostbyname()
[05:38] <howcomes> can i add a entry to /etc/hosts as a user ?
[05:38] <howcomes> nope
[05:39] <howcomes> reboot it is
[05:42] <_wd_> hey i tried to adept / upgrade and it tells me to run as root so i log in then it says "it will open in read only to open as root" i thought i did.
[05:43] <howcomes> hmm, that hostname thing didnt work too well
[05:44] <howcomes> i tried to make it the.something.or.other.etc.etc
[05:44] <howcomes> and its only showing up howcomes@the:~$
[05:45] <howcomes> thoughts/suggestions ?
[05:48] <_gtakito> how do I get codec for kaffeine to play .mpg
[05:48] <MetaMorfoziS> anyone can help me about bootsplash installing? on ubuntu with kde?
[05:52] <_wd_> hey guys hey i tried to adept / upgrade "kubuntu" and it tells me to run as root, so i log in under root with my pass, then it says "open in read only you need to open as root" i did why again?
[05:54] <howcomes> anyone know why when i edit my /etc/hostname to the.something.or.other.etc.etc it only shows up root@the:~$
[06:01] <mcsteels> how come I cant apt-get install anything?? last time i had ubuntu hoary on my computer there was loads of things I could get but now with breezy there is nothing
[06:01] <laga> !multiverse
[06:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:02] <josesito> can someone help me configuring a speedtouch 330 usb adsl modem? please?
[06:02] <mcsteels> i have added extra repos but apt-get update doesnt like them
[06:04] <_wd_> how do u add repositories in kubuntu
[06:04] <arafat> ^^
[06:04] <mcsteels> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <_wd_> how do u add repositories in kubuntu is it possible
[06:11] <_wd_> hey guys i tried to adept / upgrade "kubuntu" and it tells me to run as root, so i log in under root with my pass, then it says "open in read only you need to open as root" i did why again?
[06:12] <eric_> hi
[06:13] <eric_> I am new to kde and linux, I was wondering
[06:13] <eric_> what irc apps do you guys use for downloading from bots
[06:16] <Riddell> eric_: downloading from bots?
[06:17] <eric_> yeah
[06:17] <snikker> hi, i'm unable to upgrade to breezy from dvd with synaptic...
[06:17] <eric_> I see some anime fansub groups got that
[06:23] <nikita> !php
[06:23] <ubotu> I guess lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:24] <_wd_> how do i install synaptic under kubuntu
[06:24] <mars> Hi I have one question. How to delete history in Konqueror?
[06:24] <mars> _wd_: use Adept
[06:25] <sampan> mars: settings --> configure konq --> history sidebar ... there's a button "clear history"
[06:25] <_wd_> mars go here here is what happens http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7820
[06:25] <howcomes> http://trippmd.com/uploaded_images/google-os_large-727216.jpg
[06:26] <mars> _wd_: Are you running something what is using apt database?
[06:27] <_rjune> howcomes: that's pretty slick looking, what is it?
[06:28] <howcomes> i think its Goobuntu :P
[06:28] <_rjune> well, last I heard there wasn't a google OS, so I figured somebody did a theme for gnome or kde.
[06:28] <snikker> hi, i'm unable to upgrade to breezy from dvd with synaptic... it say that i've not inserted a deb cd
[06:29] <howcomes> http://plod.popoever.com/upfiles/img/050902/googleOS.jpg
[06:31] <howcomes> http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/5572/googleos58sm.jpg
[06:32] <_wd_> mars every since i updated i've been having problems
[06:32] <howcomes> I think it might be real
[06:32] <huerlisi> Hi, I just updated my kubuntu to 'dapper'
[06:32] <huerlisi> well, works quite nice
[06:33] <huerlisi> but the kde deamon keeps crashing
[06:33] <huerlisi> hints, anybody?
[06:37] <chx> is there an mp3 util which would dump a list of how long a directory of mp3s are (per file and total)?
[06:37] <_wd_> why isn't my adept program allowing me to login as root?
[06:38] <chx> !sudo
[06:38] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:38] <_wd_> ubotu same for kubuntu
[06:39] <chx> _wd_: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same OS with a different GUI
[06:39] <chx> and ubotu is a bot.
[06:39] <kkathman> ubotu: hi
[06:39] <ubotu> hey, kkathman
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> chx: you you looking for file size or count of files?
[06:40] <kkathman> ssssssshhhhhh he thinks he's human
[06:40] <chx> LeeJunFan: neither. length of music
[06:40] <chx> mp3info -x |grep Length
[06:40] <chx> I googled it out :)
[06:41] <chx> now I need to write a small script to create a total. Alas, my awk-fu is weak.
[06:41] <chx> however, my php-fu is very strong :) and it'll do
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> chx: that's what I was thinking. I just tried mp3info and didn't get the length field though.
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> ahh -x
[06:42] <_wd_> how do i insert my root pass for adept, i accidentally shut down konverstation
[06:44] <_wd_> ubotu can you send me that link again
[06:44] <ubotu> _wd_: Huh?
[06:44] <_wd_> how do i unlock the root pass
[06:45] <laga> Root
[06:45] <laga> !root
[06:45] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:45] <_wd_> thanks
[06:45] <LeeJunFan> _wd_: konversation logs by default btw - you probably could just scroll up or click 'window' menu and open the logfile for the channel.
[06:46] <trappist> chx: what about -p %s
[06:46] <trappist> err %S
[06:47] <huerlisi> join #linuxchicks
[06:47] <_wd_> Open Konqueror and open the /etc/kde3/kdm/ folder "how?"
[06:48] <_wd_> sorry how so i "open Konqueror and open the /etc/kde3/kdm/ folder"
[06:48] <trappist> josesito: please don't do that
[06:48] <trappist> chx:
[06:48] <trappist> err
[06:48] <chx> trappist: -p looks interesting
[06:48] <trappist> chx: x=0;for i in *.mp3;do x=$(($x+$(mp3info -p %S "$i")));done;echo $x
[06:48] <josesito> do what?
[06:48] <chx> trappist: wow thanks!
[06:49] <trappist> josesito: spew public away messages, or change your nick back and forth, much less both
[06:49] <josesito> sorry...
[06:50] <josesito> hey, you complain about that, but no one can help me about my problem? i've been trying to configure my modem for 3 days now, and there are still problems...
[06:51] <LeeJunFan> one thing has nothing to do with the other.
[06:51] <frozon> hi
[06:51] <frozon> i have some problem, i just install kubuntu on my amd64 with an ati x800 pci express and xorg don't want to boot, i tried to configure xorg, but i get no device detected
[06:52] <josesito> i know, but maybe that way someone answers...
[06:53] <mars> Hi I am trying to install some windeco from deb but i still get /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control what to do?
[06:53] <mars> I mean that it cant read /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control
[06:54] <mars> Any idea?
[06:54] <mars> Ehh
[06:58] <mars_> Can someone help me?
[06:58] <frozon> sorry mars_ i'm not used to kubuntu so dunno how to help you
[07:01] <cypher___> i am having probs installing kdevelop. it tells me that kdelibs4c2 has a wrong version. my version is ...-0ubuntu2  but its searching for ...-1   ( version number is the same), any help?
[07:01] <frozon> cypher__ try a ln -sf on your -0ubuntu2 to a -1
[07:02] <cypher___> hmm thats an idea I havent thought of
[07:02] <cypher___> the odd thing is that kdevelop runs thou adept tells me its broken
[07:03] <cypher___> thx for the help so far
[07:03] <cypher___> cya
[07:04] <_wd_> when i try to enable root password by "sudo passwd root" at the passwd prompt it won't let me enter
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i logout from kde from commandline?
[07:07] <JoeBlow> how do i turn the top kubuntu menu off, that has like file ect... without loosing a small bar with my icons on it
[07:08] <_mars> Ehh so maybe now. I have problem cause when i try to install windeco fron deb it shows that it cant read /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control
[07:09] <_wd_> hey guys i can't use adept for kubuntu it say to put in my root password, i do but still nothing  i sudo passwd root but at the prompt it won't allow me to enter passwd
[07:11] <_wd_> hey guys i can't use adept for kubuntu it say to put in my root password, i do but still nothing  i sudo passwd root but at the prompt it won't allow me to enter passwd
[07:15] <_mars> I cant dsownload deb in normal way cause ion kde look it opens kwrite all the time.
[07:16] <_mars> How to download it?
[07:17] <JoeBlow> how do i turn the top kubuntu menu off, that has like file ect... without loosing a small bar with my icons on it
[07:25] <sweet_kate> can u suggest a hackers channel on whatever server?
[07:25] <laga> sweet_kate: to you, what does the word 'hacker' mean?
[07:27] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i logout from kde from command line?
[07:29] <trappist> /etc/init.d/kdm restart will do the trick, but if you 'logout' from the command line it'll just log you out of that terminal session
[07:30] <trulux> hi
[07:30] <trulux> I've been trying flight 2 cd for i386, xorg didn't get configured properly
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to set it to ksensors
[07:30] <trulux> in fact, xorg.conf is empty
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> if my machine goes too hot, it's logout
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> (when i'm play ut2004 or etc)
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> but without root it's not applicable
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> halt
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> reboot
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> kdm stop restart etc...
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> needs root...
[07:32] <_nick01> I'm trying to play an audio cd- I get errors in kaffeine and kscd doesn't make a sound :(
[07:33] <trulux> any idea on why this happened?
[07:33] <_nick01> how do I get it to play the damn cd ?
[07:40] <Ayiden> I am installing flash player 7. I have finished setting it up on firefox and opera... what directory do I goto to install it in konqueror? I know firefox is /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[07:41] <jr_> Ayiden: same as for firefix, just scan for new netscape plugins
[07:41] <Ayiden> oh alright thanks
[07:42] <Ayiden> where in system settings do I go to do that *(lol)
[07:47] <Ayiden> How do I scan for new netscape pugins? Where do I go?
[07:47] <ilba7r> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[07:47] <ilba7r> that is where they are normally installed
[07:48] <merc> xchat doesnt seem to have an 'open new tab' option for konqueror, and the konq man page doesnt have any info on how to launch it from the command line to open a new tab...anyone know how?
[07:48] <Ayiden> Do you have to scan for them for konquerer to use them? or will konquerer just use them?
[07:48] <ilba7r> ayiden i do not use konq
[07:49] <ilba7r> but if you put them under your .netscape/plugin folder there where it should look for it
[07:49] <Ayiden> okay thanks alot
[07:49] <ilba7r> am not so sure though i remember you can set it on konq
[07:54] <nalioth> netscape?
[07:54] <ilba7r> nalioth konq normally look for netscape plugins
[07:55] <ilba7r> at least it used to when i was using it
[07:55] <nalioth> ilba7r: use ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[07:55] <ilba7r> nalioth, i know how to use it thanks. but am afraid that was konq always looking for
[07:56] <ilba7r> it used to make a .netscape dir though i do not have netscape in stalled
[07:56] <nalioth> konq will look at "any" directory you point it at
[07:56] <ilba7r> any way i do not know about the new one so will not argue there
[07:57] <ilba7r> nalioth, agree was talking about where it looks for by default
[07:58] <nalioth> ilba7r: if you use defaults, you get what you get
[07:58] <ilba7r> nalioth, i was just trying to help someone. Am not using kde anymore my friend :). I prefer ion, fluxbox and gnome
[07:59] <boz> !rpm
[07:59] <ubotu> somebody said rpm was the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[07:59] <laga> !alien
[07:59] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:59] <boz> !alien
[07:59] <nalioth> ilba7r: i use konq for file mangling on occasion
[07:59] <nalioth> boz: what are you trying to install?
[08:00] <boz> slimp3 server should i just use the tar.gz file from their site?
[08:00] <_brandon> what is "hotplug subsystem"?  it always fails to load on my laptop
[08:00] <ilba7r> nalioth, i still prefer nautilus i love the embelm
[08:00] <boz> _brandon mine always did thaT ALSO UNTIL I UNPLUGGED MY SCSI cd writer
[08:01] <ilba7r> boz your pref should be .deb , source and finally rpm
[08:01] <nalioth> boz: yes, use the tar.gz
[08:01] <_brandon> hmmm, i don't have any scsi devices though. Is there a way to disable it so that it doesn't try to load?
[08:01] <boz> ok thanks guys.  This channel has been a lifesaver!
[08:02] <_brandon> yeah this channel is great.
[08:02] <ilba7r> boz check checkinstll
[08:02] <ilba7r> and deb-helper
[08:02] <ilba7r> let me check the right name for it
[08:02] <boz> the repos have a version of slimp3 but i was wondering if i would be better off sarting with the latest ver.
[08:03] <boz> from the slimp3 website?
[08:03] <ilba7r> boz try the one in the repos it will be the most stable. if you find it inadequate you can always opt up
[08:03] <boz> great 3 questions answered at once !!! thanks again
[08:04] <nalioth> boz: the slimp3 that is in the repos works fine, i'd expect (in linux, 'newer' -= better)
[08:04] <nalioth> dammit
[08:10] <_brandon> does anyone know if it's possible to disable the "hotplug subsystem" from loading during boot?
[08:12] <laszlok> _brandon: system settings --> system services
[08:13] <laszlok> _brandon: is that what you are looking for?
[08:14] <pr1r> anyone got info on GOOBUNTU?
[08:15] <pr1r> google + ubuntu
[08:15] <ilba7r> nothing except what is in the news
[08:15] <laszlok> pr1r: only what was on /.
[08:15] <pr1r> slashdot?
[08:15] <pr1r> really
[08:16] <pr1r> didnt think that site still existed
[08:16] <pr1r> bastards
[08:17] <_brandon> laszlok : i've looked in the system services before and hotplug is set to no for "start at boot" any other ideas?
[08:19] <laszlok> _brandon: all the init scripts are in /etc/init.d/ -- you can disable them by remove the executable permission
[08:20] <_brandon> laszlok: thx i'll check that out.
[08:27] <humboldt> can anybody tell me, why my pptp connection does not work any more? has anybody ever seen these messages:
[08:27] <humboldt> info: [pppd] Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 /dev/pts/6
[08:27] <humboldt> info: [pppd] LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Connection terminated.
[08:27] <humboldt> info: [pppd] Using interface ppp0 Connect: ppp0 /dev/pts/7
[08:27] <humboldt> info: [pppd] Child process pptp 63.130.182.5 --nolaunchpppd (pid 11822) terminated with signal 15
[08:27] <humboldt> info: [pppd] tcflush failed: Bad file descriptor
[08:29] <zypo> hey.. can anyone help me
[08:29] <zypo> i have 2 sound cards and the on-board needs to be disabled
[08:29] <nalioth> humboldt: please don't paste in here (read the channel /topic when you enter channels)
[08:31] <`Nomad> zypo: Did you turn it off in BIOS if it's an option?
[08:32] <`Nomad> I need help with my glx extension in xorg.conf.  I have nvidia for the card, and I have glx-enables, but it doesn't seem to eb there, I can't run blender
[08:38] <eightiesk> cherry
[08:38] <eightiesk> oops
[08:38] <eightiesk> lol
[08:38] <eightiesk> !ntsf
[08:38] <ubotu> Not a clue, eightiesk
[08:38] <eightiesk> !nstf
[08:38] <ubotu> eightiesk: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:38] <eightiesk> !ntsf
[08:38] <ilba7r> !ntfs
[08:38] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:38] <eightiesk> ya that one
[08:38] <eightiesk> lol
[08:38] <eightiesk> :-(
[08:38] <ilba7r> :)
[08:38] <eightiesk> \i can't get my figers working.
[08:42] <decoye> hallo
[08:43] <decoye> ist momentan jemand anwesend?
[08:43] <decoye> or anybody speaking english
[08:43] <decoye> at least
[08:44] <dark_suic> english maybe :P
[08:44] <decoye> nice
[08:44] <_brandon> Is there a way to build a deb package w/ a .tgz file?
[08:44] <ilba7r> dh-make
[08:44] <decoye> my problem is about instaling the current airsnort  0.2.7e version on the kde ubuntu...
[08:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _brandon about checkinstall
[08:45] <nalioth> ilba7r: dh-make is a bit advanced for most users, checkinstall is advised for them
[08:45] <decoye> i get the error message "c compiler cannot create executeables"
[08:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell decoye about compile
[08:45] <decoye> haha
[08:45] <ilba7r> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources _brandon
[08:45] <decoye> nice one
[08:45] <decoye> i did this ....
[08:45] <_brandon> thanks
[08:45] <dark_suic> decoye, did you try to download it from the repositories?
[08:45] <dark_suic> and not compile?
[08:46] <ilba7r> nalioth, just giving them choices and they choose :)
[08:46] <dark_suic> i have airsnort in the repos
[08:46] <decoye> i used apt-get and the packet wont compile automatically
[08:46] <dark_suic> ???
[08:46] <nalioth> ilba7r: yes, but dh-make requires a lot more knowledge, while checkinstall is just used in place of 'make install'
[08:46] <dark_suic> they ARE compiled, they shouldn't need to compile, (i think, don't have much idea)
[08:47] <decoye> it just throws it into my home directory
[08:47] <nalioth> decoye: what are you trying to do?
[08:47] <decoye> so what should i do to it...
[08:47] <decoye> maybe i try to launch airsnort...?!
[08:47] <hawking> everytime I open KDE I get this --> Klipper has crashed and sent 6(SIGABIRT) signal... how can i fix this?
[08:47] <hawking> SIGABRT is that
[08:48] <DxOffEagle> hawking: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/klipper/history.lst
[08:49] <rrichie> hi all
[08:49] <rrichie> has anyone tried mezzo on ubuntu ?
[08:49] <hawking> DxOffEagle : thx
[08:50] <bogdan> hello guys
[08:50] <DxOffEagle> 'welcome
[08:52] <_mars> Hi I want to configure some windeco but this is what i get during make http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/532602 wjhat to do?
[08:53] <_mars> ?
[08:53] <humboldt> anybody any idea why I get this when I try using pptp? *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080596f0 ***
[08:54] <mars_> I hate sources :/
[08:57] <fit4lfe> having alot of problems with apps
[08:57] <fit4lfe> freezing
[08:57] <fit4lfe> were can I found out whats the problem
[08:57] <humboldt> I want to apt-get remove ppp package but apt wants to remove a million other packages as well. how can I make it just remove the packages I want, ignoring the dependencies?
[08:57] <fit4lfe> like my vmware won't run anymore
[08:58] <fit4lfe> amarok won't even open ?
[08:58] <fit4lfe> like keeps loading
[08:58] <fit4lfe> like its in  loop or something
[08:59] <_mars_> Does windecos for KDE3.2 works with 3.5?
[09:00] <chx> I have a question re. Azureus. I enabled UDP port 6881 in Guarddog, even tried to disable the firewall, yet Azureus tells me "There appears to be a problem with Distributed Database's UDP mapping (NAT). I am connected directly not via a NAT.
[09:02] <Mars^> Hi
[09:02] <Mars^> I have Problem http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/532602
[09:03] <orion> picoss: saluuuut
[09:04] <Mars^> I cant install no windeco from sources
[09:05] <Mars^> Ehh
[09:05] <Mars^> I see
[09:05] <Mars^> No I dont know where can i look for help
[09:06] <Mars^> NIce
[09:07] <_brandon> i'm getting a make command not found error when trying to use checkinstall
[09:09] <sampan> _brandon  perhaps a silly question, but did you install the "build-essential" package?
[09:09] <nalioth> sampan: use apt-get or synaptic
[09:10] <sampan> nalioth  i've installed it a long time ago -- was wondering if _brandon has or not since he's getting a "make command not found error" when using checkinstall
[09:10] <sampan> memory is kinda iffy sometimes, but iirc "make" is part of the build-essential package ...?
[09:11] <nalioth> sampan: most likely he has not
[09:11] <_brandon> sampan: i'm not sure. i used sudo apt-get install checkinstall to install
[09:11] <sampan> _brandon, you'll need to install it then: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:11] <_brandon> ok, thank you
[09:11] <sampan> sure, np
[09:11] <sampan> nalioth  kinda what i suspected :)
[09:15] <_brandon> ok great, i've gotten much further now thanks to the help of this channel. Now i'm getting error Install: cannot start: no such file or directory. Any ideas?
[09:16] <_brandon> It says install error 1
[09:17] <Mars^> Ehh
[09:18] <Mars^> I even cant compile decorator
[09:25] <picoss> hello all
[09:25] <picoss> i would like to install APACHE+MYSQL+PHP on KUBUNTU BREEZY, what is the best way to do that ?
[09:26] <sampan> !lamp
[09:26] <ubotu> hmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:26] <sampan> picoss  see the link ubotu just posted ^^^
[09:27] <picoss> sampan: thx
[09:27] <sampan> sure
[09:28] <fujisan> hi
[09:28] <picoss> sampan: would it be possible to install php5 rather than php4
[09:28] <Tm_T> picoss: use apt magic
[09:29] <picoss> Tm_T: What is that ?
[09:29] <Tm_T> humm
[09:29] <orion_fr_24> Tm_T: apt magic wtf is that ?
[09:29] <sampan> picoss i don't really know much about lamp ... i just pointed you to the wiki since i know it's a common question.  others will have to help you on the specifics
[09:29] <snikker> i've got a problem with apt-cdrom ident... dvd not detected...
[09:30] <orion_fr_24> !lamp
[09:30] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:30] <Tm_T> orion_fr_24: picoss:
[09:30] <Tm_T> !apt
[09:30] <ubotu> from memory, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[09:30] <Tm_T> apt magic = you can almost everything with apt
[09:30] <Tm_T> +do
[09:30] <orion_fr_24> I know apt but whaaaaat is apt magic ?
[09:33] <snikker> don't work again :(
[09:33] <sampan> sudo apt-get install coffee-beans && sudo apt-get install coffee-grinder && sudo apt-get install coffee-machine && sudo grind beans && sudo add water && sudo percolate coffee
[09:34] <snikker> ???
[09:35] <Tm_T> aye
[09:36] <trappist> what's up with all the public away messages
[09:36] <Tm_T> sampan: smells good indeed ;)
[09:36] <Tm_T> trappist: just ignorance
[09:36] <trappist> I guess
[09:36] <Tm_T> trappist: and getting points, 10 is kickban
[09:36] <sampan> tm_t, it's the juice of life ... i'm not even human until i've had a cup ... or three
[09:36] <Tm_T> sampan: I'm not human
[09:36] <sampan> O/o
[09:38] <Captainbraille> Hi, anyone have a minute for a question?
[09:38] <sampan> to*
[09:38] <Tm_T> sampan: not that it makes me human but it keep my animal steady ;)
[09:38] <Tm_T> Captainbraille: never
[09:38] <Tm_T> !help
[09:38] <Tm_T> humm
[09:39] <Tm_T> !helme
[09:39] <ubotu> Tm_T: Huh?
[09:39] <Tm_T> aergh!
[09:39] <Tm_T> botabuse++
[09:39] <Tm_T> !helpme
[09:39] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:39] <Tm_T> bhew, finally
[09:40] <Captainbraille> Thanks Tm_T =P, okay, on www.kubuntu.org/faq.php  .. under How do I play MP3's .. it says "killall artsd" to restart the sound server, then to restart Amarok and Kaffeine, right?
[09:40] <Tm_T> hum, maybe
[09:40] <Tm_T> what about it
[09:41] <Captainbraille> well I just type killall artsd in a konsole right?
[09:41] <Tm_T> yes
[09:41] <Captainbraille> What do you use for mp3s?
[09:41] <Tm_T> amaroK
[09:41] <Tm_T> with Gstreamer 0.10 engine
[09:42] <Tm_T> I don't have arts running at all
[09:42] <Captainbraille> Yeah, the 0.1
[09:45] <luka74> Tm_T: how do you configure amarok to use gstreamer 0.10
[09:45] <Tm_T> luka74: I compile myself
[09:45] <luka74> amarok depends on gstreamer 0.8
[09:46] <Tm_T> and I have both gstreamers, working
[09:47] <Tm_T> that reminds me, svn up!
[09:52] <Kejk_PL> Hi, I found that latest libxine1 (1.0-1ubuntu3.6) from Hoary secury updates breaks Amarok and Kaffeine - they crash sudenly after start
[09:54] <Tm_T> Kejk_PL: hoary?
[09:55] <Tm_T> Kejk_PL: have you tried gstreamer in both?
[09:55] <muzzle> gtk+is for GUI programming. What about gtk? The same?
[09:56] <orion_fr_24> !pureftpd
[09:56] <ubotu> orion_fr_24: Huh?
[09:56] <Kejk_PL> Tm_T: no, because they crash :)
[09:56] <orion_fr_24> !pureftp
[09:56] <ubotu> orion_fr_24: No idea
[09:56] <Kejk_PL> I downgraded to version 1.0-1ubuntu3.3 and it works
[09:56] <orion_fr_24> does anybody got an howto install pureftp on breezy ?
[09:57] <Kejk_PL> Tm_T: I think that letest package is simply broken :(
[09:57] <Tm_T> orion_fr_24: "sudo apt-get install pureftp" ?
[09:57] <orion_fr_24> Tm_T: already try but cant find anything
[09:57] <Tm_T> orion_fr_24: if not, use google to find package, if not, compile from sources
[09:58] <Kejk_PL> In changelog.Debian.gz mainteiner wrote, that is is rebuilded version - none secury updates, so I downgrated one version back
[09:58] <orion_fr_24> maybe I m just missing the correct server within sources file
[09:58] <yellowdart> orion_fr_24: apt-cache search pure-ftp
[10:00] <Tm_T> noirequus: you little!
[10:01] <hawking>  I have firefox 1.5 and everytime I run it I get two windows open near it with the title Mozilla Quality Feedback Agent and I can't close those windows... anyone knows why this happens?
[10:01] <owner> its crashing hawking
[10:01] <owner> thats what Mozilla Quality Feedback Agent is
[10:01] <owner> it sends crash reports back
[10:02] <yellowdart> orion_fr_24: did you find it?
[10:02] <hawking> owner : but firefox just works ok
[10:02] <hawking> owner : how can i make it stop giving reportS?
[10:03] <owner> you can disable feedback agent
[10:03] <hawking> owner : how?
[10:03] <orion_fr_24> yellowdart: well actually it s not apt-get install pureftpd but pure-ftpd
[10:03] <owner> it doesnt send reports unless you actually tell it to
[10:04] <owner> when the window comes up it will ask you if you want to use feedback agent or turn it off
[10:04] <yellowdart> orion_fr_24: yeah, i know.. i was just pointing out 'apt-cache' for searching packages
[10:04] <yellowdart> :)
[10:06] <Paradosso> is there a tool to recover freshly deleted files?
[10:09] <_wd_> i just that i have firefox installed in kubuntu, i don't see it in menu, how do i get it to run
[10:10] <visik7> Paradosso: depend on the FS
[10:11] <Paradosso> visik7, fat
[10:12] <owner> paradosso look up undelete programs for fat
[10:12] <owner> most are for windows
[10:12] <owner> i dont know of any for linux
[10:15] <trappist> recovering deleted files in linux pretty much means restore from backup
[10:20] <phin> anyway to fix this alsalink crash in konq when i goto a site with sound?
[10:21] <Zappa> is there a way to disable KDE's auto start feature (how it automatically restarts things you left open when you last logged out/restarted)
[10:21] <Zappa> I want to set up a list of stuff I really want to start up when i log in
[10:22] <DxOffEagle> Zappa: look for "session manager" (or session management) settings in kcontrol (not sure  the simpler settings UA has that)
[10:22] <sampan> system settings -- user account -- session manager
[10:23] <phin> ya this alsalink crash sucks :(
[10:23] <mat7h3w> hello, i'm a new user of kubuntu, the system i am installing it on has an amd 64 processor, is there a version of cedega that works on the 64 bit version of kubuntu? could anyone tell me?
[10:24] <phin> opps
[10:24] <phin> alsasink
[10:27] <mat7h3w> anyone?
[10:30] <egolost> is there a gui alternative for dselect?
[10:30] <sorush20> egolost: don't know is there one?
[10:32] <phin> synaptic is pretty solid
[10:34] <egolost> ahh.. thats what i was looking for.. hehe.. never used it myself... a friend was talking about not like using the shell for updateing things...
[10:35] <ClayG> is there any sort of command or tool that will show other nodes on your lan?
[10:38] <tvo> ClayG: nodes? as in other PCs? try nmap on the commandline, read the docs, look for ping scan
[10:38] <Zappa> DxOffEagle: thanks
[10:54] <pointwood> kde 3.5.1 packages are now available for kubuntu :)
[10:59] <visik7> there is a bug in avahi-demon package it use dbus-1-utils but it's not in the dependancies and on of the install script fails
[11:08] <`Nomad> pointwood:  From 3.5, that is a regular update?
[11:08] <pointwood> I just updated
[11:08] <pointwood> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[11:08] <`Nomad> is it a dist-upgrade?
[11:08] <`Nomad> thanks
[11:09] <pointwood> I tried a plain upgrade first and some packages was being kept back
[11:09] <pointwood> so I've done a dist-upgrade now
[11:10] <pointwood> I guess I should reboot and see whether it works :)
[11:10] <pointwood> brb
[11:10] <Ayiden> I need to know where to go to get information on how to setup my own domain name and dsn server etc... I pretty much know how to set everything up accept obtaining a domain name for my server.. that is really confusing to me at the moment
[11:11] <`Nomad> Ayiden: you want to buy a domainname?
[11:12] <`Nomad> upgrade seems to be goign well for me so far..
[11:12] <`Nomad> does anyone know if quicktime plays with wine?  I,d liek to use those lynda.com videos
[11:12] <Ayiden> brb
[11:13] <ltdangle> i guess i cant connect to servers that are window's based
[11:13] <ltdangle> ?
[11:14] <gamma> can someone tell me if sounds is all borked for this media file? http://69.46.24.198/~gkko/media/438/wackytubemen.wmv
[11:15] <`Nomad> pointwood: How did the reboot go?
[11:15] <pointwood> `Nomad: quite well it seems :)
[11:15] <pointwood> no errors so far at least
[11:16] <pointwood> gamma: seems to play fine in mplayer here
[11:16] <gamma> pointwood: mind trying with xine/kaffiene?
[11:16] <gamma> that's where i'm getting the issue :/
[11:17] <pointwood> I don't have xine installed
[11:17] <`Nomad> kewl.. I did a regular update but you were right, a few packages were held back, so doing a dist now and will reboot afterwards
[11:18] <`Nomad> Where can I read what the improvements are?
[11:19] <pointwood> gamma: I do find multimedia on linux to be problematic though :(
[11:19] <pointwood> `Nomad: it's on the dot
[11:19] <pointwood> there's a link the changelog there
[11:19] <gamma> something is hard locking my system.. im guessing it's the borked videos
[11:21] <Nukeador> hi all
[11:22] <pointwood> gamma: :(
[11:22] <Nukeador> its me or since i installed kubuntu-deskop on my ubuntu auto-updates disappeared?
[11:24] <_localhost> hi
[11:25] <_localhost> is there a good page for irssi scripts / support (except the official one)?
[11:26] <_localhost> and maybe themes
[11:26] <robotgeek> _localhost: no, that is the best place
[11:27] <_localhost> hmm, so.. what's the best irc client then
[11:28] <Nukeador> i like xchat
[11:28] <robotgeek> irssi :)
[11:28] <_localhost> hehe, but .. it's kinda tough to chat with.. I mean .. without a real good newbie guide :P
[11:29] <robotgeek> agreed
[11:29] <Nukeador> any idea about my prob?
[11:30] <Nukeador> auto-updates works 4 u?
[11:30] <_localhost> hmm, robotgeek how much scripting work did you do?
[11:30] <robotgeek> zilch
[11:31] <robotgeek> i hate perl
[11:31] <_localhost> hehehe
[11:32] <_localhost> I just wonder how I could get started.. like the thing.. I want to be "noticed" "alarmed" "informed" if someone queries me.. ..with standard config I neither see whether someone wrote in the channels :P
[11:33] <Ayiden> I am trying to learn as much much as I can about setting up my own server. But I am confused about How dns and domain names work. Do you have to buy a domain name? If not how can you set one up to point to your own servers IP? Basically my question is where can I find information on setting up dns and domain names?
[11:33] <robotgeek> _localhost: /help hilight , /help beep
[11:33] <_localhost> thx
[11:33] <hatake_kakashi> anyone having troubles getting into failsafe mode? I'm currently running Breezy (5.10) with KDE3.5 installed
[11:34] <_localhost> Ayiden: www.no-ip.com www.dyndns.org
[11:35] <_localhost> robotgeek: which theme are you using?
[11:36] <Ayiden> _localhost: thanks
[11:36] <Nirvana> I've been trying to compile flock for a while now, and always receive an error when it comes to building Mozilla. I have checked the mozilla build pre-req page, but it wasn't clear. I did what I could though. I downloaded their libIDL, and aliened it, I made sure I had all that gcc, pkgconfig, fontconfig, etc, and I get an error because (of what I believe is) the gtk files. Now, I am on Kubuntu, so I have to downloa
[11:36] <bobesponja> does anyone know when will 3.5.1 be in unstalbe?
[11:37] <Nirvana> I've tried this so far: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev libgtk1.2-dev, sudo apt-get build-dep mozilla-browser, and sudo apt-get build-dep firefox
[11:37] <`Nomad> Arghh!!   Updating to kde 3.5.1 left me with a screen half white, half black on reboot
[11:37] <Nukeador> any idea how to unistall all gnome-deskop packages and keep the kde ones?
[11:38] <Nirvana> None of them eased the error. I only thought of using the apt-get build-dep  because I figured if I was building from source, it might be smart to get the build dependancies...
[11:38] <`Nomad> Nuke: Look into sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop
[11:38] <`Nomad> not sure
[11:38] <Nukeador> uhm
[11:38] <Nirvana> error I receive: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/532048
[11:38] <_localhost> how does it come that irssi won't save anything... do I have to save manually?
[11:38] <Nukeador> my problem is that i have docens of programs that i dont use
[11:39] <`Nomad> Would anyone have an idea as to what happened to my box upgrading to 3.5.1?  I never saw this before, it gets to a screen that half black, half white
[11:39] <`Nomad> an ddies there
[11:39] <`Nomad> kde killed my box :(
[11:40] <hatake_kakashi> _localhost: save what manually?
[11:41] <_localhost> like.. networks.. servers.. settings
[11:41] <_localhost> he forgot like everything
[11:42] <hatake_kakashi> _localhost: check your permissions and all to write to the irssi directory
[11:42] <_localhost> okay
[11:42] <hatake_kakashi> s/irssi/.irssi
[11:42] <hatake_kakashi> fyi its a hidden folder, you may need to check it via konsole or one of those vty consoles
[11:43] <_localhost>  ah. right - now I understand why I wasn't able to copy the theme :P
[11:43] <_localhost> sorry.. my first day linux alone :P
[11:43] <hatake_kakashi> _localhost: heh :) now you know where to go :)
[11:46] <callie> hey kkathman
[11:46] <hatake_kakashi> anyone been to failsafe mode whilst on kde3.5?
[11:46] <_localhost> chmod 666 /usr/share/irssi good one? :D
[11:46] <callie> once hatake_kakashi
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> _localhost: I wouldn't do that imo.. chown -Rv `whoami`:`whoami` .irssi
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> callie: and does it work for you? just a question of curiousity
[11:48] <callie> well im not sure how its supposed to work, i think i just had a concole
[11:49] <callie> *console
[11:50] <hatake_kakashi> callie: yeah that's what basically you end up with on kubuntu.. hmm for some reason I can't even get to that part.. I get xorg error with that console emulator or something
[11:50] <callie> well in that case hatake_kakashi yes, it worked ;)
[11:51] <hatake_kakashi> callie: and you had clean install of breezy? or is it upgraded from hoary?
[11:51] <callie> clean
[11:51] <hatake_kakashi> bah.. that maybe the reason why
[11:52] <callie> perhaps
[11:52] <callie> i've heard the upgrade has caused a few problems
[11:52] <hatake_kakashi> yeah :/ I may have to get the latest cd and reinstall *sigh*
[11:53] <Nukeador> where can i find the auto-update utility in KDE?
[11:53] <callie> Nukeador, adept
[11:53] <Nukeador> ok
[11:53] <Nukeador> thanks
[11:53] <Nukeador> it runs auto?
[11:53] <callie> pretty much
[11:53] <callie> what kind of update you doing?
[11:54] <Nukeador> no update actually
[11:54] <Nukeador> i just want to know if autoupdate exists on kubuntu
[11:54] <callie> ah ok, cool
[11:55] <Nukeador> cause since i install kde i have no update notifies
[11:55] <Nukeador> is it normal?
[11:55] <`Nomad> Looks like the 351 update screwed up my video settings.. What,s teh best way to fix it, I just found my 5.10 dvd, I'll boot from it and wipe out the xorg.conf file on teh HD?
[11:56] <callie> Nukeador, as far as i know KDE doesnt notify you of updates, at least not out of the box, but im sure there's a way to get it to
[11:56] <Nukeador> oh
[11:56] <slow-motion> n8
[11:57] <`Nomad> !repair
[11:57] <ubotu> `Nomad: I give up, what is it?
[11:57] <`Nomad> !rescue
[11:57] <ubotu> rescue is, like, totally, Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode
[11:59] <hatake_kakashi> callie: it would probably be nicer if the upgrade did somehow fix it.. its not that I cannot use the console vtys but the arrow keys such as up, left, down, and right does not work on console vty, I get other bits and pieces of error coming off.. maybe its something to do with keyboard mapping?
[12:00] <`Nomad> While in rescue mode, can I run xconfig and save that xorg.conf?
[12:00] <hatake_kakashi> `Nomad: possibly
[12:00] <hatake_kakashi> `Nomad: are you able to stop X from loading? like immediately switch to one of the console vty before it even loads up X?
[12:01] <`Nomad> Oh I didn't try that..
[12:01] <`Nomad> with ALT-Fx you mean?
[12:01] <hatake_kakashi> or Ctrl+Alt+Fx