[12:16] <Riddell> amu!
[12:19] <amu> moin Riddell 
[12:24] <Riddell> amu: going to do us a CD with kde 3.5.1 and koffice 1.5 beta?
[12:25] <amu> yep
[12:26] <Riddell> great :)
[12:27] <amu> you reached elmo for my acc?  
[12:28] <Riddell> amu: no, I sent the request but sysadmin is slow for these things
[12:28] <Riddell> amu: can you upload it to  ne of your servers and I'll copy it across?
[12:28] <Lathiat> Riddell: yeh
[12:29] <Lathiat> Riddell: aseigo also bought a load more
[12:29] <Riddell> Lathiat: he says he never found you
[12:29] <Lathiat> err
[12:29] <Lathiat> yes he did
[12:29] <amu> Riddell: ack, i'll write you a mail, where you'll find it
[12:29] <Lathiat> we had a good chat one night at unicol and it took him a bit to figure out who i was (and he other way around)
[12:30] <Riddell> Lathiat: ha, he must be loosing his mind
[12:31] <sebas> krootimage: Fatal IO error: client killed
[12:31] <sebas> This one seems to prevent my kdm from starting.
[12:33] <Lathiat> i said who i was, and we started chatting, and then i picked up my name badge at some point and he goes "OH LATHIAT!" i know who you are ;p didn't understand my accent or something :)
[12:33] <sebas> Is that krootimage thing a known problem?
[09:28] <Tonio_> hi folks
[09:32] <Riddell> morning Tonio_ 
[09:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: hello ;)
[09:37] <Tonio_> Riddell: I couldn't be there for the TB.... crazy schedule this week
[09:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: I've spend a few hours working with a default kde config, and I think I have a few interesting ideas for the kubuntu-default-settings package
[09:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: may I send you a debdiff in a few days and a mail to comment the modifications ?
[09:38] <Riddell> Tonio_: like raising konqueror's minimum font size to something sane :)
[09:38] <Riddell> Tonio_: sure
[09:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: yep, I have a way to set dpi to 100 in kdmrc :)
[09:39] <Tonio_> then cleaning fonts, modifying the menus, adding a .desktop for the konqueror's filemanagement profile
[09:39] <Tonio_> a few things like that ;)
[09:39] <Tonio_> ho, and I had a question riddell....
[09:40] <Tonio_> the "system" applet is set by default nearby the K button
[09:40] <Tonio_> it is very usefull but there is a problem using it
[09:40] <Tonio_> assume that with you open "home"
[09:41] <Tonio_> konq is launched with "system:/home"
[09:42] <Riddell> what's wrong with that?
[09:42] <Tonio_> it works fine, but all opened files are copied in tmp before beeing opened
[09:42] <Tonio_> try to open a big file, it take hudge time
[09:42] <Riddell> depends on what you open them with
[09:43] <Tonio_> hum, for examle videos with kaffeine or big ogg files with amarok or any other player
[09:43] <Tonio_> it depends if the application is able to manage system:/ urls ?
[09:45] <Riddell> hmm, yes
[09:45] <Riddell> but kaffeine has Exec=kaffeine %U  so it should be able to manage URLs
[09:47] <Riddell> I'll query that with ervin when he's around
[09:47] <Riddell> otherwise can't be too hard to change it back to $HOME
[09:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay thanks ;)
[09:56] <amu> Riddell: iso uploaded ... needs some tests 
[09:56] <Riddell> amu: URL?
[10:04] <Riddell> Mez: new akode is in
[10:04] <Riddell> Mez: should be backportable
[10:07] <freeflying> hi all
[10:07] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[10:07] <amu> Riddell: http://he.debian.net/kubunt+koffice.iso
[10:08] <freeflying> Riddell: if there has changes in debian/rules , shall I provide it as a patch
[10:19] <Riddell> freeflying: no
[10:19] <Riddell> freeflying: what are you changing?
[10:20] <freeflying> Riddell: some include file has been moved to another directions from upstream
[10:20] <Riddell> freeflying: in what?
[10:21] <Riddell> amu: copying to kubuntu.org, although I don't have any way to test it here
[10:21] <Riddell> anyone able to test amu's ISO?
[10:21] <Riddell> live cd
[10:21] <freeflying> Riddell: it's skim, the include file in libskim-dev has some changes
[10:21] <Lathiat> i can
[10:21] <Riddell> freeflying: ah, just edit debian/rules directly
[10:21] <Riddell> Lathiat: cool, see URL above
[10:22] <freeflying> Riddell: may new skim release been uploaded now 
[10:23] <freeflying> amu: I'll have a test on your LiveCD
[10:23] <Riddell> freeflying: put it on revu, I'll need a changelog and I'll have to ask for an upstream version freeze exception
[10:24] <freeflying> Riddell: this release will fix this bug :https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/29255
[10:26] <amu> thx i've no idea if it boots/works complete ... it was an automatic build ... 1000nds km away from the build server :) 
[10:26] <Riddell> freeflying: great, fixing bugs helps for upstream version freeze exception :)
[10:27] <Lathiat> Riddell: hrm im getting 30K/s, can i wait till you have it to kubuntu.org?
[10:28] <Riddell> 40 mins to download
[10:28] <Lathiat> i have 5 hours left
[10:28] <Lathiat> so
[10:28] <Lathiat> :)
[10:28] <Lathiat> i'll wait for that
[10:29] <amu> no i've alo on my desk on a 10GB line ... where i can upload it? 
[10:29] <amu> s/no/now
[10:30] <amu> MD5 (kubunt+koffice.iso) = eaf4299ff9f732389cc2846e9f74f1a1
[10:34] <freeflying> about 4hrs for downloading 
[10:37] <freeflying> amu: may you upload to ftp.ubuntu.org.cn
[10:37] <amu> user: pass ? 
[10:37] <amu> ftp | scp ? 
[10:39] <freeflying> amu: anonymous ftp
[10:40] <amu> kubunt+koffice.iso                            100%  559MB   7.9MB/s   01:11
[10:45] <amu> freeflying: hmmm ETA 1D 4h 
[10:45] <jsgotangco> 1D
[11:03] <freeflying> amu: will you give me more details about your livecd
[11:05] <freeflying> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1633
[11:06] <freeflying> Riddell: skim has been uploaded
[11:07] <Riddell> freeflying: you've tested that it works?
[11:08] <freeflying> Riddell: I'm testing it now . and I will feedback to you later this night
[11:36] <JRe> Riddell: I have tested koffice 1.5 beta1 and there is a problem with the krita package
[11:39] <Riddell> JRe: what's up?
[11:40] <JRe> Riddell: it's try to replace a file which is already in digikam package (on dapper)
[11:40] <Riddell> which file?
[11:42] <Riddell> hmm /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-raw.desktop
[11:42] <JRe> Riddell: /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-raw.desktop
[11:42] <JRe> :)
[12:04] <amu> re
[12:05] <Riddell> hi amu 
[12:06] <amu> Riddell: new build with koffice looks fine .... uploading it now 
[12:06] <Riddell> yay
[12:10] <Mez> hmm
[12:10] <Mez> someone was building katapult for gentoo :D
[12:11] <Riddell> was?
[12:11] <Tm_T> diu
[12:16] <pef> hello
[12:16] <Mez> lol @ http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?popcon=katapult
[12:16] <Mez> popcon stuff already ?
[12:18] <amu> kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso                              0% 4336KB 185.1KB/s 1:02:59 ETA
[02:02] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[02:02] <Tonio_> hello freeflying ;)
[02:02] <freeflying> Tonio_: hi
[02:03] <freeflying> Riddell: skim works fine 
[02:03] <Riddell> freeflying: excellent, I'll take a look
[02:03] <Riddell> freeflying: that bug is fixed?
[02:03] <freeflying> Riddell: y
[02:27] <amu> Riddell: ftp://ftp.bay13.net/pub/kubuntu-devel/
[02:28] <amu> new version uploaded, this time with koffice and better download rates    
[02:30] <freeflying> amu: hi
[02:32] <amu> ftp://ftp.bay13.net/pub/kubuntu-devel/kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso
[02:33] <amu> pls announce it for an test *g* 
[02:35] <sealne> amu: so that is different from http://he.debian.net/kubunt+koffice.iso ? bah just burned that
[02:36] <amu> yep, this time koffice 1.5b is really included :) 
[02:36] <sealne> atleast its ftp this time so i don't need to go through the proxies :)
[04:25] <Riddell> sealne: were you able to download that new iso from amu?
[04:27] <sealne> still downloading its very slow
[04:29] <Riddell> I couldn't get dns on the host
[04:30] <Riddell> oh, there it goes
[04:30] <sealne> 2 hours in and only 80%
[04:31] <sebas> Hm, kword from the koffice beta doesn't start, it says:
[04:31] <sebas> koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: Library files for ".la" not found in paths.
[04:31] <sebas> Is that  a known bug, the  other apps don't expose that.
[04:32] <freeflying_> amu: would you mind give us the md5 of your iso 
[04:33] <amu> 97d61bf1e83559ccdd91d5c5fefa8a4b  kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso
[04:35] <freeflying_> it's seems I'd re-download it again
[04:41] <amu> freeflying_: hmm, the md5 matches at both hosts 
[04:42] <amu> sebas: i've null problems, error messages, starting koffice/kword from the live
[04:43] <Riddell> I agree with md5sum
[04:43] <freeflying_> amu: both sites?  and what is the other site ?
[04:43] <sebas> amu: Good for you ;-)
[04:43] <sebas> Dunno what's wrong though.
[04:43] <Riddell> amu: null problems?  meaning none?
[04:44] <amu> freeflying_: from the buildenv to destination server, both matches   
[04:44] <amu> Riddell: works perfect and very fast! 
[04:44] <amu> running it from my vmware  
[04:44] <freeflying_> amu: dose your livecd support chinese 
[04:45] <amu> freeflying_: i found it out, it's better to build localized images, the boot 30% faster 
[04:46] <amu> freeflying_: i offered you once a chinese version, my offer is still valid
[04:46] <freeflying_> amu: how can i build it ?
[04:48] <Riddell> amu: excellent :)
[04:50] <amu> i've customized the kubuntu-default-settings and put all logic in it. What i need from you is, your customized version, than i can build a deb, rebuild my locale mirror and run the build    
[04:51] <Riddell> amu: I don't understand
[04:51] <freeflying_> amu: I've submit what I need from your website to you
[04:54] <amu> Riddell: thats a standart breezy with package updates from kubuntu.de backports + my own settings, i dont like the default settings 
[04:55] <amu> Riddell: than i modified the settings in an extra package 
[04:55] <amu> added it to my local pool, and run the build  
[04:55] <amu> freeflying_: the webpage isnt ready .... i've too much work to do
[04:56] <amu> first i've to solve my payed work, if there's some free time, i can do the funstuff ;) 
[04:58] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso
[05:07] <amu> freeflying_: my private messages reach you ? sorry i use first time kopete for irc :) 
[05:21] <Riddell> "Nicolas Velin (nsv) wants to join this team." ever heard of him?
[05:22] <jjesse> not me
[05:22] <Tm_T> nope
[05:22] <Tm_T> but invite him to come here, then we do hear about him ;)
[05:23] <Tm_T> glibc stuff keeps bugging me
[05:30] <jpatrick> Riddell: afternoon - small problem I've found: The requested URL /announcements/special-cds.php was not found on this server.
[05:36] <Tm_T> Riddell: humm, in new amarok package, gstreamer support removed?
[05:42] <Riddell> jpatrick: well spotted, fixed
[05:43] <Riddell> Tm_T: yes, gstreamer 0.8 is old and there's no 0.10 support yet
[05:43] <Tm_T> ok
[05:43] <Tm_T> oh well, "old" gstreaer is the one working best here
[05:44] <jpatrick> Riddell: is that .iso for x86, ppc or amd64?
[05:44] <Riddell> jpatrick: good question, i386 I assume
[05:44] <Tm_T> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08348a70 ***
[05:44] <Tm_T> again ;(
[05:45] <Riddell> Tm_T: where?
[05:45] <jpatrick> Tm_T: gstreamer was the only engine that works here
[05:45] <Tm_T> amarok, gst10 engine
[05:45] <Tm_T> jpatrick: looks like it's only one working here
[05:45] <jpatrick> xine crashes changing song and aRts is old
[05:47] <Tm_T> yup, only gst-0.8 works here now
[05:48] <jpatrick> do gst have cross-fading now?
[05:48] <Tm_T> hmm, I think no
[05:49] <Tm_T> I hope
[06:29] <jpatrick> err Riddell 
[06:29] <jpatrick> Unpacking replacement superkaramba ...
[06:29] <jpatrick> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:29] <jpatrick>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-kio-plugins_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb
[06:29] <jpatrick> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:29] <Riddell> jpatrick: where?  when?  how?
[06:30] <jpatrick> Updating to KDE 3.5.1
[06:31] <Riddell> jpatrick: breezy?  dapper?
[06:31] <jpatrick> Breezy
[06:32] <jpatrick> wait I think I got it working again
[06:37] <Riddell> Tm_T: you were asking about artwork needing doing?
[06:37] <Riddell> Tm_T: the website needs updating to the new logo
[06:37] <jpatrick> cool
[06:39] <Riddell> jpatrick: what did you do?
[06:39] <Riddell> jpatrick: and do you have the actual error?
[06:39] <jpatrick> Riddell: kicked "sudo apt-get install -f" into action
[06:40] <jpatrick> It was trying to overwrite something
[06:41] <jpatrick> but: "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)" happened
[06:53] <jpatrick> hello Seth
[06:55] <seth> hiya jpatrick :)
[06:55] <seth> props Riddell for getting them to break UVF for konvi 0.19, it's rockin'
[07:00] <Riddell> requested package: kalzium simulations http://cniehaus.livejournal.com/14929.html
[07:01] <Riddell> cool :)
[07:03] <jpatrick> Isn't that SVN stuff?
[07:03] <seth> Riddell, shall I do speedcrunch 0.7beta1? (and how did they go from 0.6beta2 to 0.7beta1 with no 0.6 in between :)
[07:03] <Riddell> seth: no, new speedcrunch needs qt 4 and that's not going to be in main for dapper
[07:04] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, but he requeste we package it
[07:04] <seth> ah ha
[07:04] <jpatrick> Riddell: okay adding to TODO
[07:06] <seth> Riddell, and other question... any idea why every time I start KDE, kded crashes anywhere between 20 and 100 times? Is there a package with debug symbols I can grab to get some useful debug output?
[07:07] <Riddell> kdelibs4c2a-dbg 
[07:08] <seth> thank you
[07:09] <seth> I wasn't sure what package debugging symbols for kded would live in
[07:10] <Riddell> seth: breezy or dapper?
[07:11] <seth> dapper
[07:11] <seth> up-to-date as of 10 minutes ago, but I still crash hardcore
[07:11] <seth> I'll file a bug now that I have debugging symbols
[07:22] <Riddell> jjesse: see that post on kubuntu-users from Malcom Hunter?
[07:25] <jjesse> Riddell: just read it
[07:25] <jjesse> will get it changed
[07:26] <Riddell> groovy
[07:32] <kkathman> man I havent heard "groovy" in a LONG time he he :)
[07:32] <jpatrick> Riddell: what's the syntax for SVN pkgs? name-verison+svn??
[07:33] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes
[07:33] <Riddell> foo-0.0+svn20060201
[07:33] <Riddell> can use snapshot instead of svn to be more generic
[07:33] <jpatrick> where can I find a snapshot?
[07:34] <Riddell> svn :)
[07:36] <jpatrick> Riddell: It needs Qt4
[07:37] <jpatrick> according to the page...
[07:39] <jpatrick> packaging anyhow
[07:40] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes
[07:40] <jpatrick> "libqt4-dev"
[08:17] <jpatrick> Riddell: Huzzah! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1638
[08:18] <jpatrick> arg! No manpage for binary...
[08:19] <Riddell> jpatrick: you rock
[08:20] <jpatrick> Riddell: build deps are wrong, one sec
[08:20] <jpatrick> thank you :)
[08:21] <JRe> is X from dapper work right ?
[08:21] <JRe> (in short can i update?)
[08:21] <Riddell> JRe: works for me
[08:22] <Riddell> so kalzium-simulations uses kalzium from kde 3 but uses qt 4?
[08:22] <jpatrick> JRe: do you have a packager for Keep? :)
[08:23] <Tm_T> Riddell: ok, what I need to do then? just css + gimp work?
[08:23] <JRe> jpatrick: Tonios has been making package till now
[08:23] <jpatrick> JRe: ok
[08:23] <Riddell> Tm_T: new logo http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-dapper.png
[08:23] <Riddell> Tm_T: actually you probably need the svg to fix the top right gear there
[08:24] <Tm_T> aye
[08:24] <Riddell> Tm_T: and just edit the website graphic to use the
[08:24] <Tm_T> ok
[08:24] <Riddell> Tm_T: I think the crystal style text should be kept, so just update the circle/gear part
[08:25] <Tm_T> jeh
[08:25] <Tm_T> a) fix svg b) replace old with new
[08:25] <Tm_T> else?
[08:25] <jpatrick> Riddell: that's what I was thinking of...
[08:26] <Riddell> Tm_T: fix png using svg, update kubuntu-crystal.{png,svg}, update logo on website
[08:26] <Riddell> the difficultly with the update logo on website bit is making the logo visible on a blue background
[08:26] <Riddell> since it doesn't have a border any more
[08:26] <Tm_T> hehe, how about small shadow?
[08:27] <Riddell> possibly
[08:27] <Riddell> or the effect used on ubuntu.com
[08:28] <Tm_T> ah, you mean "light up" in background
[08:28] <Tm_T> yes, can be done
[08:28] <Riddell> jpatrick: what was?
[08:29] <jpatrick> uses kalzium from kde 3 + qt 4
[08:34] <Tm_T> Riddell: so, I take http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-crystal.svg, put fixed new gear to it, add some effects, ok?
[08:35] <Riddell> Tm_T: yes
[08:35] <Tm_T> aye aye sir
[08:36] <jpatrick> Riddell: uploaded new package
[08:37] <Riddell> Tm_T: and make it look good on the website
[08:38] <Tm_T> ..I'll try, no promises :p
[08:38] <Tm_T> I can do things, but when it also have to look good ;)
[08:45] <Riddell> jpatrick: it doesn't install anythng
[08:46] <jpatrick> I'm on it
[08:46] <jpatrick> waiting for pbuilder to finish updating
[09:01] <jpatrick> Riddell: dh_install is commented - could that be the problem?
[09:39] <sebas> Riddell: Could you send me a short summary of your FOSDEM talk?
[09:39] <sebas> I'd like to prepare the schedule.
[09:40] <jpatrick> I'm off cya
[10:34] <seth> Hi again Riddell, what package should I file a bug under if kded is crashing? Still kdelibs4c2a?