=== amu [n=amu@gprs-pool-1-012.eplus-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] amu! [12:19] moin Riddell [12:24] amu: going to do us a CD with kde 3.5.1 and koffice 1.5 beta? [12:25] yep [12:26] great :) === Riddell off to bed [12:27] you reached elmo for my acc? [12:28] amu: no, I sent the request but sysadmin is slow for these things [12:28] amu: can you upload it to ne of your servers and I'll copy it across? [12:28] Riddell: yeh [12:29] Riddell: aseigo also bought a load more [12:29] Lathiat: he says he never found you [12:29] err [12:29] yes he did [12:29] Riddell: ack, i'll write you a mail, where you'll find it [12:29] we had a good chat one night at unicol and it took him a bit to figure out who i was (and he other way around) [12:30] Lathiat: ha, he must be loosing his mind === Riddell sleeps [12:31] krootimage: Fatal IO error: client killed [12:31] This one seems to prevent my kdm from starting. [12:33] i said who i was, and we started chatting, and then i picked up my name badge at some point and he goes "OH LATHIAT!" i know who you are ;p didn't understand my accent or something :) [12:33] Is that krootimage thing a known problem? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-50-62.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shapeos [n=enfact@cpe-72-228-0-103.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-1-26.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shapeos [n=enfact@cpe-72-228-0-103.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shapeos [n=enfact@cpe-72-228-0-103.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shapeos [n=enfact@cpe-72-228-0-103.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan__ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shapeos [n=enfact@cpe-72-228-0-103.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === teprrr [n=tpr@kde/developer/rytilahti] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F531A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-1-26.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] hi folks [09:32] morning Tonio_ [09:36] Riddell: hello ;) [09:37] Riddell: I couldn't be there for the TB.... crazy schedule this week [09:38] Riddell: I've spend a few hours working with a default kde config, and I think I have a few interesting ideas for the kubuntu-default-settings package === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] Riddell: may I send you a debdiff in a few days and a mail to comment the modifications ? [09:38] Tonio_: like raising konqueror's minimum font size to something sane :) [09:38] Tonio_: sure [09:39] Riddell: yep, I have a way to set dpi to 100 in kdmrc :) [09:39] then cleaning fonts, modifying the menus, adding a .desktop for the konqueror's filemanagement profile [09:39] a few things like that ;) [09:39] ho, and I had a question riddell.... [09:40] the "system" applet is set by default nearby the K button [09:40] it is very usefull but there is a problem using it [09:40] assume that with you open "home" [09:41] konq is launched with "system:/home" [09:42] what's wrong with that? [09:42] it works fine, but all opened files are copied in tmp before beeing opened [09:42] try to open a big file, it take hudge time [09:42] depends on what you open them with [09:43] hum, for examle videos with kaffeine or big ogg files with amarok or any other player [09:43] it depends if the application is able to manage system:/ urls ? [09:45] hmm, yes [09:45] but kaffeine has Exec=kaffeine %U so it should be able to manage URLs [09:47] I'll query that with ervin when he's around [09:47] otherwise can't be too hard to change it back to $HOME === amu [n=andm@gw01.combots.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:55] Riddell: okay thanks ;) [09:56] Riddell: iso uploaded ... needs some tests [09:56] amu: URL? [10:04] Mez: new akode is in [10:04] Mez: should be backportable [10:07] hi all [10:07] Riddell: hi [10:07] Riddell: http://he.debian.net/kubunt+koffice.iso [10:08] Riddell: if there has changes in debian/rules , shall I provide it as a patch === robotgeek [n=robotgee@62.240.70.121] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [10:19] freeflying: no [10:19] freeflying: what are you changing? [10:20] Riddell: some include file has been moved to another directions from upstream [10:20] freeflying: in what? [10:21] amu: copying to kubuntu.org, although I don't have any way to test it here [10:21] anyone able to test amu's ISO? [10:21] live cd [10:21] Riddell: it's skim, the include file in libskim-dev has some changes [10:21] i can [10:21] freeflying: ah, just edit debian/rules directly [10:21] Lathiat: cool, see URL above [10:22] Riddell: may new skim release been uploaded now [10:23] amu: I'll have a test on your LiveCD [10:23] freeflying: put it on revu, I'll need a changelog and I'll have to ask for an upstream version freeze exception [10:24] Riddell: this release will fix this bug :https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/skim/+bug/29255 [10:26] thx i've no idea if it boots/works complete ... it was an automatic build ... 1000nds km away from the build server :) [10:26] freeflying: great, fixing bugs helps for upstream version freeze exception :) [10:27] Riddell: hrm im getting 30K/s, can i wait till you have it to kubuntu.org? [10:28] 40 mins to download [10:28] i have 5 hours left [10:28] so [10:28] :) [10:28] i'll wait for that [10:29] no i've alo on my desk on a 10GB line ... where i can upload it? [10:29] s/no/now [10:30] MD5 (kubunt+koffice.iso) = eaf4299ff9f732389cc2846e9f74f1a1 === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:34] about 4hrs for downloading [10:37] amu: may you upload to ftp.ubuntu.org.cn [10:37] user: pass ? [10:37] ftp | scp ? [10:39] amu: anonymous ftp [10:40] kubunt+koffice.iso 100% 559MB 7.9MB/s 01:11 [10:45] freeflying: hmmm ETA 1D 4h [10:45] 1D === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:03] amu: will you give me more details about your livecd === amu [n=andm@debian/developer/amu] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [11:05] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1633 [11:06] Riddell: skim has been uploaded [11:07] freeflying: you've tested that it works? [11:08] Riddell: I'm testing it now . and I will feedback to you later this night === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:36] Riddell: I have tested koffice 1.5 beta1 and there is a problem with the krita package === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:39] JRe: what's up? [11:40] Riddell: it's try to replace a file which is already in digikam package (on dapper) [11:40] which file? [11:42] hmm /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-raw.desktop [11:42] Riddell: /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-raw.desktop [11:42] :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [n=amu@gprs-pool-1-001.eplus-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:04] re === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:05] hi amu [12:06] Riddell: new build with koffice looks fine .... uploading it now [12:06] yay === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:10] hmm [12:10] someone was building katapult for gentoo :D [12:11] was? [12:11] diu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] hello [12:16] lol @ http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?popcon=katapult [12:16] popcon stuff already ? [12:18] kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso 0% 4336KB 185.1KB/s 1:02:59 ETA === mornfall_ [n=mornfall@r31s01p04.home.nbox.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall_ is now known as mornfall === pef is now known as pef_aw === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.120.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F45E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ is now known as KaiL [02:02] Riddell: hi [02:02] hello freeflying ;) [02:02] Tonio_: hi [02:03] Riddell: skim works fine [02:03] freeflying: excellent, I'll take a look [02:03] freeflying: that bug is fixed? [02:03] Riddell: y === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D0D65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] Riddell: ftp://ftp.bay13.net/pub/kubuntu-devel/ [02:28] new version uploaded, this time with koffice and better download rates === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:30] amu: hi [02:32] ftp://ftp.bay13.net/pub/kubuntu-devel/kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso [02:33] pls announce it for an test *g* [02:35] amu: so that is different from http://he.debian.net/kubunt+koffice.iso ? bah just burned that [02:36] yep, this time koffice 1.5b is really included :) [02:36] atleast its ftp this time so i don't need to go through the proxies :) === sebas is now known as Wait === Wait is now known as sebas === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:25] sealne: were you able to download that new iso from amu? [04:27] still downloading its very slow === amu [n=amu@gprs-pool-1-001.eplus-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] I couldn't get dns on the host [04:30] oh, there it goes [04:30] 2 hours in and only 80% [04:31] Hm, kword from the koffice beta doesn't start, it says: [04:31] koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: Library files for ".la" not found in paths. [04:31] Is that a known bug, the other apps don't expose that. [04:32] amu: would you mind give us the md5 of your iso [04:33] 97d61bf1e83559ccdd91d5c5fefa8a4b kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso [04:35] it's seems I'd re-download it again === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:41] freeflying_: hmm, the md5 matches at both hosts [04:42] sebas: i've null problems, error messages, starting koffice/kword from the live [04:43] I agree with md5sum [04:43] amu: both sites? and what is the other site ? [04:43] amu: Good for you ;-) [04:43] Dunno what's wrong though. [04:43] amu: null problems? meaning none? [04:44] freeflying_: from the buildenv to destination server, both matches [04:44] Riddell: works perfect and very fast! [04:44] running it from my vmware [04:44] amu: dose your livecd support chinese [04:45] freeflying_: i found it out, it's better to build localized images, the boot 30% faster [04:46] freeflying_: i offered you once a chinese version, my offer is still valid [04:46] amu: how can i build it ? [04:48] amu: excellent :) [04:50] i've customized the kubuntu-default-settings and put all logic in it. What i need from you is, your customized version, than i can build a deb, rebuild my locale mirror and run the build [04:51] amu: I don't understand [04:51] amu: I've submit what I need from your website to you [04:54] Riddell: thats a standart breezy with package updates from kubuntu.de backports + my own settings, i dont like the default settings === freeflying_ sleep time , night all [04:55] Riddell: than i modified the settings in an extra package [04:55] added it to my local pool, and run the build [04:55] freeflying_: the webpage isnt ready .... i've too much work to do [04:56] first i've to solve my payed work, if there's some free time, i can do the funstuff ;) [04:58] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu351+koffice15b1.iso [05:07] freeflying_: my private messages reach you ? sorry i use first time kopete for irc :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.120.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:21] "Nicolas Velin (nsv) wants to join this team." ever heard of him? [05:22] not me [05:22] nope [05:22] but invite him to come here, then we do hear about him ;) === Tm_T is still recompiling amarok [05:23] glibc stuff keeps bugging me === jpatrick [n=patrick@247.Red-83-35-12.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:30] Riddell: afternoon - small problem I've found: The requested URL /announcements/special-cds.php was not found on this server. [05:36] Riddell: humm, in new amarok package, gstreamer support removed? === luka74 [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:42] jpatrick: well spotted, fixed [05:43] Tm_T: yes, gstreamer 0.8 is old and there's no 0.10 support yet [05:43] ok [05:43] oh well, "old" gstreaer is the one working best here [05:44] Riddell: is that .iso for x86, ppc or amd64? === Tm_T had much problems in time to time with xine engine in amaroK [05:44] jpatrick: good question, i386 I assume [05:44] *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x08348a70 *** [05:44] again ;( [05:45] Tm_T: where? [05:45] Tm_T: gstreamer was the only engine that works here [05:45] amarok, gst10 engine [05:45] jpatrick: looks like it's only one working here [05:45] xine crashes changing song and aRts is old [05:47] yup, only gst-0.8 works here now [05:48] do gst have cross-fading now? [05:48] hmm, I think no [05:49] I hope [06:29] err Riddell [06:29] Unpacking replacement superkaramba ... [06:29] Errors were encountered while processing: [06:29] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-kio-plugins_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb [06:29] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [06:29] jpatrick: where? when? how? [06:30] Updating to KDE 3.5.1 [06:31] jpatrick: breezy? dapper? [06:31] Breezy [06:32] wait I think I got it working again [06:37] Tm_T: you were asking about artwork needing doing? [06:37] Tm_T: the website needs updating to the new logo [06:37] cool [06:39] jpatrick: what did you do? [06:39] jpatrick: and do you have the actual error? [06:39] Riddell: kicked "sudo apt-get install -f" into action [06:40] It was trying to overwrite something [06:41] but: "dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)" happened === seth_k [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:53] hello Seth === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D0D65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:55] hiya jpatrick :) [06:55] props Riddell for getting them to break UVF for konvi 0.19, it's rockin' === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:00] requested package: kalzium simulations http://cniehaus.livejournal.com/14929.html === jpatrick jumps to it [07:01] cool :) [07:03] Isn't that SVN stuff? [07:03] Riddell, shall I do speedcrunch 0.7beta1? (and how did they go from 0.6beta2 to 0.7beta1 with no 0.6 in between :) [07:03] seth: no, new speedcrunch needs qt 4 and that's not going to be in main for dapper === jpatrick goes out for supper (brb) [07:04] jpatrick: yes, but he requeste we package it [07:04] ah ha [07:04] Riddell: okay adding to TODO [07:06] Riddell, and other question... any idea why every time I start KDE, kded crashes anywhere between 20 and 100 times? Is there a package with debug symbols I can grab to get some useful debug output? [07:07] kdelibs4c2a-dbg [07:08] thank you [07:09] I wasn't sure what package debugging symbols for kded would live in [07:10] seth: breezy or dapper? [07:11] dapper [07:11] up-to-date as of 10 minutes ago, but I still crash hardcore [07:11] I'll file a bug now that I have debugging symbols === _jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:22] jjesse: see that post on kubuntu-users from Malcom Hunter? [07:25] Riddell: just read it [07:25] will get it changed [07:26] groovy [07:32] man I havent heard "groovy" in a LONG time he he :) [07:32] Riddell: what's the syntax for SVN pkgs? name-verison+svn?? [07:33] jpatrick: yes [07:33] foo-0.0+svn20060201 [07:33] can use snapshot instead of svn to be more generic [07:33] where can I find a snapshot? [07:34] svn :) [07:36] Riddell: It needs Qt4 [07:37] according to the page... [07:39] packaging anyhow [07:40] jpatrick: yes [07:40] "libqt4-dev" === jpatrick [n=patrick@247.Red-83-35-12.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:17] Riddell: Huzzah! http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1638 [08:18] arg! No manpage for binary... [08:19] jpatrick: you rock [08:20] Riddell: build deps are wrong, one sec [08:20] thank you :) [08:21] is X from dapper work right ? [08:21] (in short can i update?) [08:21] JRe: works for me [08:22] so kalzium-simulations uses kalzium from kde 3 but uses qt 4? [08:22] JRe: do you have a packager for Keep? :) [08:23] Riddell: ok, what I need to do then? just css + gimp work? [08:23] jpatrick: Tonios has been making package till now [08:23] JRe: ok [08:23] Tm_T: new logo http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-dapper.png [08:23] Tm_T: actually you probably need the svg to fix the top right gear there [08:24] aye [08:24] Tm_T: and just edit the website graphic to use the [08:24] ok [08:24] Tm_T: I think the crystal style text should be kept, so just update the circle/gear part [08:25] jeh [08:25] a) fix svg b) replace old with new [08:25] else? [08:25] Riddell: that's what I was thinking of... [08:26] Tm_T: fix png using svg, update kubuntu-crystal.{png,svg}, update logo on website === hunger [n=tobias@p54A644E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:26] the difficultly with the update logo on website bit is making the logo visible on a blue background [08:26] since it doesn't have a border any more [08:26] hehe, how about small shadow? [08:27] possibly [08:27] or the effect used on ubuntu.com === Tm_T checks it [08:28] ah, you mean "light up" in background [08:28] yes, can be done [08:28] jpatrick: what was? [08:29] uses kalzium from kde 3 + qt 4 [08:34] Riddell: so, I take http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-crystal.svg, put fixed new gear to it, add some effects, ok? === Tm_T wants to make sure he understood it right [08:35] Tm_T: yes [08:35] aye aye sir [08:36] Riddell: uploaded new package === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:37] Tm_T: and make it look good on the website [08:38] ..I'll try, no promises :p [08:38] I can do things, but when it also have to look good ;) [08:45] jpatrick: it doesn't install anythng [08:46] I'm on it [08:46] waiting for pbuilder to finish updating === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0D65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] Riddell: dh_install is commented - could that be the problem? === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0D65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:39] Riddell: Could you send me a short summary of your FOSDEM talk? [09:39] I'd like to prepare the schedule. [09:40] I'm off cya === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [n=amu@gprs-pool-1-013.eplus-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:34] Hi again Riddell, what package should I file a bug under if kded is crashing? Still kdelibs4c2a? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === amu [n=amu@debian/developer/amu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.187.88] has joined #kubuntu-devel