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| zul | BenC: new crack for you | 02:21 |
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| BenC | ok | 02:21 |
| zul | compiled tested and running it right now.. | 02:22 |
| zul | rt8180 is not in there yet though | 02:22 |
| lamont | BenC: could I talk you into adding ns87415.ko to the ide-modules udeb on hppa with the next upload? | 02:50 |
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| zul | later.. | 03:17 |
| pdr | just a quick question, is it intended to have 2.6.16 on dapper? | 06:51 |
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| lamont | pdr: upstream version freeze already happened. I would doubt that 2.6.16 would hit dapper, unless something was very very very broken in 2.6.15 | 07:08 |
| lamont | and even then, probably not. | 07:09 |
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| crimsun | pdr: no, 2.6.15.x | 08:46 |
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| pdr | lamont, crimsun: thanks | 11:21 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I've just sent you a patch that updates the sdhci driver | 12:28 |
| mjg59 | It seems pretty stable here now | 12:29 |
| sn9 | BenC: awake? | 12:29 |
| sn9 | i finally rebooted for the first time since the -14 install | 12:29 |
| sn9 | i cannot get it to detect the tumbler's presence | 12:30 |
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| sn9 | downloaded snd-powermac-[12] .ko | 01:04 |
| sn9 | -1 doesn't work either; -2 does | 01:04 |
| sn9 | sound is muted on wake from sleep | 01:05 |
| sn9 | any idea for a workaround? | 01:05 |
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| BenC | awake | 02:22 |
| BenC | sn9: not sure about that sound issue | 02:22 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:27 |
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| zul | hmm....thats cool the rt8190 doesnt have sysfs support.. | 04:35 |
| zul | more hacking for me | 04:37 |
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| lamont-work | git-core: Depends: libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.15.0-1) but it is not going to be installed | 06:15 |
| lamont-work | sigh | 06:15 |
| lamont-work | git 4.3.20-7build1 - is that new enough? | 06:17 |
| lamont-work | prolly not | 06:18 |
| === lamont-work backports the current dapper git-core to breezy | ||
| === lamont-work decides that backporting libcurl3-gnutls-dev is more work than he feels like atm | ||
| zul | heh...i built from source | 06:31 |
| lamont-work | zul: well, that is the alternative - new machine, etc. | 07:03 |
| lamont-work | I tend to prefer packed .debs, just because I'm lazy | 07:03 |
| lamont-work | zul: hey, speaking of lazy.. you wanna apply a diff for me? | 07:04 |
| lamont-work | debian/d-i/hppa/modules/hppa/ide-modules needs to have ns87415 added to it | 07:04 |
| lamont-work | hrm.. actually, maybe I'll use this as an excuse to actually learn git enough to be useful. | 07:07 |
| === lamont-work freshens his git tree at home | ||
| lamont-work | "can I swap to a ramdisk?" | 07:09 |
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| zul | sorry lamont-work was at lunch | 07:16 |
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| lamont-work | np - still watching the home machine catch up on way too many git patches | 07:17 |
| lamont-work | up to 33/ now. | 07:17 |
| zul | cool.. | 07:18 |
| lamont-work | does it count clear to ff/? | 07:18 |
| zul | yep | 07:18 |
| === lamont-work needs --bwlimit= in git pull | ||
| zul | hehe | 07:18 |
| lamont-work | iz gonna hurt my bw bill | 07:18 |
| lamont-work | esp since the next git-push is gonna do the same thing, no? | 07:18 |
| lamont-work | or can I just hop onto rookery and get pull there? | 07:19 |
| zul | i think you can hop onto rookery not sure though...bw is not really a problem for me | 07:19 |
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| BenC | lamont: only the first pull is big | 07:26 |
| lamont-work | BenC: not when you last pulled right after BenC set up git... | 07:27 |
| BenC | heh, pull more regularly :) | 07:27 |
| BenC | you can always setup a git-fetch in cron | 07:27 |
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| BenC | then you can git-pull from the fetch branch and it's all local (and the git-fetch can be cron'd because it doesn't require merging) | 07:28 |
| lamont-work | BenC: I sent you mail (which you can disregard), but wondered if my rookery git-tree was in the automerger... | 07:28 |
| BenC | not yet | 07:29 |
| BenC | actually, I don't automerge anyone | 07:29 |
| zul | BenC: question for you did you have a look at my stuff yet? | 07:29 |
| lamont-work | ah, ok. well then.. in that case... pls apply the patch I sent you in the first place. :-) | 07:29 |
| BenC | my message on wiki was just to make people be careful :) | 07:29 |
| BenC | zul: not yet, I have a butt load of stuff from mjg and others I am working on now, I plan to pull from you tonight | 07:30 |
| BenC | lamont: ok :) | 07:30 |
| zul | BenC: ok | 07:30 |
| lamont-work | and then I'll find something benign to tweak and see if I can drive git without hitting any cliffs. | 07:31 |
| zul | wheeee...cliffs!! | 07:33 |
| lamont-work | woot. over half way. (8c) | 07:35 |
| zul | freaking open office export the date properly!!! | 07:36 |
| cjb | lamont-work: BTW, I use trickle http://www.monkey.org/~marius/trickle/ to rate-limit things like apt-get. It's very simple. | 07:39 |
| cjb | (It overloads read(2) with LD_PRELOAD and adds usleeps until you're at the rate you want.) | 07:40 |
| lamont-work | cjb: thanks | 07:42 |
| lamont-work | Filename: pool/universe/t/trickle/trickle_1.06-4_i386.deb | 07:43 |
| cjb | trickle -d40 git-fetch .. should be enough to limit to 40KB/s download. | 07:43 |
| lamont-work | BenC: if I set up a git-fetch cron, does the cronjob have to finish before I can merge from the tree, or is it consistant and/or locking as needed? | 07:45 |
| lamont-work | maybe that's not clear. :( | 07:45 |
| BenC | I think you can git-pull while a fetch is going | 07:46 |
| BenC | should be atomic | 07:46 |
| lamont-work | fb! woot | 07:54 |
| lamont-work | BenC: nice. thanks | 07:55 |
| lamont-work | I assume the git-fetch cron thingy is in a faq somewhere | 07:55 |
| lamont-work | hrmpf. | 07:55 |
| lamont-work | 2nd rsync started now. wonder how many of those there are. | 07:56 |
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| zul | lamont-work: finished yet? | 08:58 |
| lamont-work | still pulling pack/pack-0741dd55e7c560f401c7f37120f3203ad8664bb0.pack | 08:58 |
| zul | well its almost done then | 08:58 |
| lamont-work | which is good, since it's put me over quota for tomorrow, too. | 08:59 |
| zul | ouch.. | 08:59 |
| lamont-work | well, if I do nothing more until then end of tomorrow, I'll be back under quota. | 08:59 |
| lamont-work | there.. that's more accurate | 08:59 |
| zul | what if you over quota for something like for a week worth of data | 09:00 |
| lamont-work | the start of the month can be like that... no time to build up extra quota-headroom | 09:00 |
| lamont-work | it doesn't help that I wind up ctl-z ing it anytime I need interactive response in mutt on the machine at home... | 09:00 |
| lamont-work | since it is maxing out the bandwidth across the hilltop (~170kbps) | 09:01 |
| zul | does it cut you off for a week or do end up paying more? | 09:01 |
| lamont-work | hrm... there's a 209kbps block in there | 09:01 |
| zul | or it just throttles you? | 09:01 |
| lamont-work | if I get to the end of the month, having used more than quota (with the prior month's headroom available), then I pay more | 09:01 |
| zul | ah ok | 09:02 |
| lamont-work | I think I had something over 300MB of headroom at the end of jan, so I get 3.5GB this month, if I must. | 09:02 |
| lamont-work | and time < 56kbps doesn't count (5 minute blocks of time, looking at agregate use) | 09:03 |
| zul | nifty...sounds communistic ;) | 09:03 |
| lamont-work | the free-under-56k was added specifically for me... | 09:03 |
| lamont-work | I usually come in at somewhere around 10-14GB total use for the month | 09:03 |
| zul | oi..i dont think i use that much....i probably do though | 09:04 |
| lamont-work | just put an iptables rule on input and ouput: "iptables -A INPUT; iptables -A OUTPUT" and see what the accounting has to say... | 09:05 |
| lamont-work | well, "-I INPUT 1" if you have rules already | 09:05 |
| cjb | Huh, wow. Where do you live such that this is necessary, lamont? | 09:05 |
| zul | mongolia ;) | 09:05 |
| lamont-work | cjb: 802.11b co-op in rural colorado | 09:05 |
| cjb | Awesome. | 09:06 |
| lamont-work | I'm arguably on the border of DSL availability, as I keep reminding the phone company... | 09:06 |
| lamont-work | but in the meantime, my internet connectivity is via an 802.11b link (1W ERP) to a hilltop 18 miles away | 09:07 |
| zul | hehe | 09:07 |
| lamont-work | it generally stays up, although bad weather at the hilltop desenses the receiver, and life sucks | 09:07 |
| zul | its like two cans and a string interfnet | 09:08 |
| lamont-work | it beats the hell out of dialup | 09:08 |
| zul | true.. | 09:08 |
| lamont-work | still debating the relative merits of sucky-latency bouncing off the geo-sync satellite. | 09:08 |
| zul | i havent had dial-up in like 6 years...except for the year i wasnt working | 09:09 |
| lamont-work | dialup is what they offer here. | 09:09 |
| lamont-work | well, I suppose isdn might be available too. | 09:09 |
| lamont-work | I had that once | 09:09 |
| lamont-work | cjb: www.cwx.net | 09:09 |
| cjb | Yeah, been six years since dialup for me too. | 09:10 |
| lamont-work | the cool part about a 3.2GB quota is that it's ~100MB/day, so you can just leave a window open with the total bw usage for the month (thank you iptables, cron and python) and easily read where you are at. | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | 20060201.1250: 2257587: 67727 | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | 26170 | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | 20060201.1300: 4400102: 132003 | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | 20060201.1305: 6435003: 193050 | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | 20060201.1310: 6889995: 206699 | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | total: 190,596,891 | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | hrm.. looks better in a non-proportional font | 09:11 |
| lamont-work | that's time-at-end-of-5-min-block: bytes: bits-per-sec | 09:12 |
| lamont-work | what it really means is that I run a local mirror, and sync it with a bw-limited script that makes sure that the archive, while possibly stale, always has a consistant set of packages/sources/release files | 09:13 |
| lamont-work | thereby timeshifting the whole thing | 09:13 |
| lamont-work | and then, when I'm tracking dapper, I suppliment that with sneaker-net bandwidth | 09:14 |
| cjb | You'd think working with bandwidth-intense trees and needing to track a whole operating system would be incompatible with having a crappy net connection. :) | 09:16 |
| lamont-work | cjb: hence the sneaker-net bandwidth suplementation | 09:26 |
| lamont-work | the part I haven't mentioned yet is that the home mirror took a crap last night (hard drive died), so I'm using a USB drive as a high-latency, high-bandwidth network connection to pull a copy of the site's mirror for the house. | 09:27 |
| lamont-work | I really need to dust off my archive code and get back to just mirroring the packages I want, instead of everything | 09:28 |
| lamont-work | cjb: also, that's why I was dealing with getting git on the work machine. or rather, thinking about it | 09:30 |
| cjb | Ah, the "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of backup tapes." approach. | 09:32 |
| lamont-work | exactluy | 09:36 |
| lamont-work | 1ea 120GB packet. | 09:36 |
| lamont-work | cjb: and for the correct quote, I believe it's: s/backup tapes/mag tapes, hurtling down the highway." | 09:52 |
| lamont-work | wth is in that .pack file? | 10:14 |
| lamont-work | which is over 100MB | 10:16 |
| lamont-work | and the one from nov 24 is 96MB. ouch | 10:17 |
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| lamont-work | finished. finally. | 10:39 |
| lamont-work | 108MB | 10:40 |
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