=== sistpoty is off to bed [12:08] gn8 everyone === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-082.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-082.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] anyone here ready for a tetrinet game ? ;) [12:30] oh i've totally forgotten about the TB tonight :s [12:32] <_jason> is this tertrinet game open to everyone? === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] what is the usefullness of debian/dirs file? [12:57] it's used by debhelper to create subdirectories in the package build [12:58] crimsum, ah [12:58] because i use install -D [12:58] -D create the destination dir [12:59] i shouldn't use -D and put this directory in "dirs" ? [12:59] whichever way works for you [12:59] both way are ok? [01:00] ok, thanx, i'll leave it like this as it's working === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] sebest_: can also be usefull to include blank dirs for whatever reason [01:13] Lathiat: i'm trying to conver mezcalero RFP, into an ITP [01:13] convert [01:14] RFP for? [01:14] can i use ubuntu's reportbug, to access debian's BTS? [01:14] RFP for mod_dnssd [01:14] sebest_: i think so [01:15] keep in mind, iirc, you can only ITP if your a DD [01:15] ah === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] but you could get someone to sponsor, or perhaps use it to become a dd? :) [01:15] because i did the package [01:15] but i'm not DD [01:16] Lathiat, could you have a quick look at it? [01:16] http://sebest.ovibes.com:8000/ [01:17] it's my first package, but i did it carefully reading the docs [01:17] sure [01:18] thanx [01:18] Lathiat: everybody can file an ITP, one does not need to be a DD [01:18] azeem: really? [01:18] hrm i read differently somewhere [01:18] azeem: i followed the following docs: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l1 [01:19] lifeless: whoa! [01:19] but issueing "reportbug wnpp" doesn't give me the same output as in the example [01:20] sebest_: you might have to specify bts=debian or something in the config [01:20] azeem: yeah, took its time [01:20] azeem: but we can now do the guis and the plugins [01:22] coincidently, I've been very busy with uni the last weeks, but should have more time from today on === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-50-62.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] Damn LaserJock [01:29] I was working on his specialty === j^_ [n=j@e178018099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] sebest_: need to build-dep lynx [01:34] ah [01:34] yes [01:34] (pbuilder is good) [01:38] i didn't know pbuilder [01:38] i fixed the missing build-dep [01:38] any other issue? [01:39] hey lathiat, today i saw a demonstration of XGL! [01:39] Novell was demoing it [01:40] it's quite really impressive [01:45] sebest_: where are you? [01:46] i'm here [01:46] in paris === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] sebest_: i've been finding it nice not to depend on avahi-daemon (since e.g. i like to use my svn version) [01:51] yes but the package must depend on it === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa233.4.tellas.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu [""] [01:52] sebest_: mod_dnssd.load has an error [01:52] sebest_: says mono_dnssd [01:52] sebest_: should be mod_dnssd [01:52] ah ues [01:52] yes [01:53] what are the rules to add packages to backports ? === orion_fr_24 [n=orion@roa76-5-82-234-252-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] here i am [01:53] cool ;) [01:54] siretart: do you know what are the rules to add packages to backports ? [01:54] siretart: backporting pureadmin to breezy fixes a major bug [01:55] everybody sleeping here ? :p [01:55] raphink: ask Mez [01:55] ok [01:55] Since I'm not gettin' an answer anywhere else [01:55] Mez: what are the rules to backport stuff to breezy? [01:56] does anacron take care of my personal crontab? [01:56] Mez: backporting pureadmin to breezy fixes a major bug [01:56] ty crimsun ;) [01:57] raphink: 1) it builds from dapper 2) it doesnt break 3) it works 4) it doesnt break everything else [01:57] Mez: exactly, don't worry i've checked ;) [01:57] meh no one knows lol [01:57] Mez: i've just ported it on orion_fr_24's comp [01:57] it's even debhelper compat 4 [01:58] yep he did [01:58] so it builds without even a change in debian/ [01:58] Mez: the current pureadmin in breezy is incompatible with pure-ftpd === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-1-26.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] malone 3349 [01:58] malone bug 3349 in pureadmin "pureadmin package outdated" [Normal,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3349 [01:58] backporting 0.3 from dapper fixes this bug [01:59] your opinion Mez ? [01:59] Lathiat, thanx i think i fix it [02:00] raphink: email case for the backport and logs of build and stuff to ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com and it'll be looked at [02:01] Mez: you want the debdiff and buildlog ? [02:01] debdiff ? [02:01] just the buildlog ? [02:01] :) [02:01] why a debdiff? [02:02] hmm just in case there are things to change to backport it, but it's nto the case actually [02:02] hehe [02:02] *blush* [02:02] well - if it doesnt work from dapper sources [02:02] it doesnt get backported [02:02] simple as [02:02] it does work [02:02] unless the changes are fixed in dapper [02:02] ok understood ;) [02:02] hence why we're having lots of fun trying to backport kde [02:02] :D [02:02] so I juts send the buildlog attached to the email to ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com [02:02] hehe I guess ;) [02:03] and a use case for backporting (why you want it backported!) 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[09:49] hi daniel [09:49] heya andrew === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-156-169.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] morning dholbach === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] hey Tonio_ [10:21] ajmitch: wasn't gooby supposed to support avahi? why does it not show up in my service discovery applet? [10:21] yes [10:22] gobby only supports howl afaik [10:22] someone made some dapper packages [10:22] because s-d-a only shows the configured services [10:22] for the howl compat layer [10:22] that too [10:22] gobby in dapper still doesnt depend on avahi tho [10:22] ah, ok. thanks [10:22] try avahi-browse _lobby._tcp [10:22] siretart: Lathiat knows better than I ;) [10:22] i doubt it sthere but [10:23] Lathiat: what about ssh? how to I make the sshd easily pop up in s-d-a? [10:23] copy th eexample service file from /usr/share/doc/avahi-daemon to /etc/avahi/services [10:25] and restart avahi, I assume [10:25] only need to reload [10:25] avahi-daemon -r [10:25] or init.d/avahi reload might work, dunno [10:25] Lathiat: settled back to perth time yet? :) [10:26] yeh [10:26] oddly enough [10:26] well [10:26] somewhat [10:26] :) [10:26] probably because you don't have a real sleeping pattern :) [10:26] Heh. [10:26] sleeping pattern? ;) [10:26] so going to bed at 5am is 'normal' [10:26] Lathiat: ok nice. what is howl? is there a faq for that somewhere? [10:26] howl is another implementation of mdns/dns-sd (the protocol avahi speaks) [10:26] ajmitch, sure it is [10:27] ogra: for some people :) [10:27] which is obviously inferior! [10:27] heh === ajmitch is going to brisbane later next week, should be real fun [10:27] ajmitch: While your up there, see if the case I ordered is still up there. [10:27] lol [10:27] s/your/you're/ [10:27] Lathiat: ok. so, if I want to advertise services like gobby or ekiga, what is the local admin supposed to do? create these funny xml files in /etc/avahi/services and done? [10:28] siretart: ekiga has support for avahi itself [10:28] as in, the program registers the service at runtime [10:28] StevenK: sure [10:28] gobby should too, altho only has support for the howl api atm [10:28] It should be here tomorrow. Hopefully. [10:28] and its hard to static service that since its a random port iirc [10:28] StevenK: I'll probably be up there for 2-3 weeks :) === StevenK glares at ajmitch. [10:29] Lathiat: I told s-d-a to display local services as well, but ekiga doesnt show up [10:29] heh === StevenK wants to install liquified [10:29] why so friendly? [10:29] siretart: s-d-a probably doesnt know about sip services? [10:29] siretart: try avahi-discover [10:29] (Which is what I'm planning on calling it) === ajmitch has a nice full tower case that unfortunately needs filled with computer bits === StevenK has a full tower case crammed full of hard drives. [10:29] nice [10:29] (My file server) [10:29] avahi-discover finds it.. [10:30] StevenK: > 1TB? [10:30] siretart: s-d-a only shows certain services it knows how to launch [10:30] ajmitch: I wish. [10:30] siretart: i think you can configure it, try right click? [10:30] steven@broken:~% df -h | grep nfs [10:30] nfs:/home/steven 29G 15G 13G 55% /media/infected [10:30] nfs:/srv/media 429G 369G 61G 86% /media/media [10:30] StevenK: that's not much, you can get that with 1 drive these days [10:30] now if I filled up the 15 drive bays with 500GB drives.. === ajmitch would have a smoking hole for a bank account :) [10:31] Lathiat: ah, I added the service types to s-d-a, and they instantly popped up. nice [10:31] so i just got a CC and the tempt to guy buy a nice new system with lots of disk is big :) [10:31] siretart: :) [10:31] must.. resist. :) === StevenK is planning on dropping the last 80Gb out of the LVM (the 430Gb partition) and replace with say, a 320Gb drive. [10:32] 320s seem to be at a good price point [10:32] StevenK: pvmove! [10:32] either 250 or 320 seems to be the best price per GB now [10:32] 320 if you get wholesale [10:32] last check [10:32] yeah [10:32] I'm looking at putting in a couple of SATA drives [10:32] hdg: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } [10:32] hdg: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } [10:32] Hrrrrrrm [10:33] nasty [10:33] oops === StevenK glares at his file server. [10:33] careful, it might get scared [10:33] a good incentive was seeing bulging, leaky caps on the current motherboard === Lathiat laughs at ajmitch [10:33] :P === Lathiat wants to get an X2 === ajmitch is going to [10:33] probably just a 4200+ [10:34] put in 4GB RAM [10:34] in a coolermaster stacker (biig case top down with 5.25" slots, takes 3x5.25->4x3.5" convertors [10:34] fill it upp :) [10:34] (over time, ofc, i cant afford that much disk at once :) [10:34] how many drives? [10:34] i'm getting towards being able to afford the base system tho [10:34] ajmitch: 12, i think you can fit 16 if you hack the top bit [10:34] each convertor has a 120mm fan on the front [10:34] this case has 9 3.5" bays, another 6 5.25" [10:34] nice :) [10:34] nice [10:35] I think 15 drives might be a little noisy [10:35] said case also has a nifty 'cross-flow' fan that blows underneath the motherboard [10:35] The case being shipped down from Brissy is a SFF case - 1 5.25" and 1 each internal and external 3.5" [10:36] Lathiat: this one is second-hand, from a friend who was willing to sell it cheap [10:36] 2 80mm fans down front, right in front of 6 3.5" drive bays [10:36] so the air blows through all the drives [10:37] and 2 in back, right beside the cpu heatsink [10:37] http://www.systemcooling.com/cm_stacker-02.html [10:37] nice, you bought this, or just dreaming of it? [10:38] you can hack the top bay out to make another 3 bays and fit a 4th convertor in [10:38] ajmitch: going to get [10:38] its only $225 or so [10:38] not insanely expensive [10:38] good price for it [10:38] hunting around for a good motherboard [10:39] http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=stc-t01 === dous [n=dous@efreet.edu.ms] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] I think a 4200+ X2 ought to be adequate for compiling [10:41] not too expensive [10:41] $569 retail [10:41] not bad [10:41] thats what i'd get [10:41] its at the sweet price point [10:42] yeah [10:42] a bit over $600 NZ here === otep [n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:42] wonder what i can get it at work for [10:43] get one for me ;) [10:43] i'll let you know, keep in mind shipping tho [10:43] yeah [10:43] aus->nz usually isn't too bad [10:43] i can get $569 - 3% at least [10:43] work will probably be better === ajmitch looks up current exchange rates [10:45] about $606 NZ [10:46] I think I was looking at $630 to get one here [10:46] prob [10:46] what can you get it locally for? [10:46] hm, it wasn't $630 [10:47] it was $695 [10:47] so even if shipping was $20 it'd be worth it [10:47] ah [10:47] nice [10:48] I might have to check out australian prices while I'm over there & once I get the money [10:49] jetsetter [10:49] jsgotangco: i'm going there for work [10:50] you can hardly talk :) [10:50] flying all over the place, doing the conference celebrity gig [10:50] oh? [10:50] whatcha doing? [10:50] Lathiat: just some coding [10:50] since it's dealing with some specific hardware it's easiest for me to fly there [10:51] ah fun [10:51] i wonder how pascals flying limo ride went [10:51] ? [10:51] didn't hear about that? [10:51] nope [10:51] mark flew pascal klein back to canberra [10:51] nice [10:51] pascal was this 16yo guy [10:51] does ubuntu art team [10:51] yeah I know [10:51] got sponsored to goto lca winnign some price from linux.conf.au [10:51] ah [10:51] cool [10:52] everyone else knows too [10:52] knows what? [10:52] remember the conference close? [10:52] ah, yeh [10:52] Lathiat, do tell === ajmitch wouldn't have minded a ride in canonical one :) [10:54] pascal seems pretty cool, reminds me of me a couple years back [10:54] a little annoying but potentially usefull :) [10:54] a little too eager at times :) [10:54] stuff like that can be fairly encouraging [10:54] sure [10:54] 16yo and not eager would worry me [10:54] (flying on canonical 1) [10:54] alot of people di dthings for me when i was younger === ajmitch never gets encouraged like that :) [10:54] so i know what its like [10:54] i mean, no one ever flew me on canonical 1 [10:54] but yeh [10:54] lol [10:55] i have managed to be paid for to goto lca for the 3rd year running [10:55] i need to come up with a new project so i can go for the fourth [10:55] i'll see it later but won't ride it though [10:55] cheapskate [10:55] how did you scam that? [10:55] or get a (male) conference organisers obsessed with me again [10:55] maybe jeff likes me :) [10:55] haha [10:55] Burgundavia: well, in lca2003, it was in my home city [10:55] lol [10:55] that would be worrying [10:55] and i helped organise, so free rego [10:55] ajmitch: it happened in 04 [10:55] then in 04 [10:55] very worrying :) [10:56] i was running the ipv6 mini conf === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] which was the "reason" i was paid for [10:56] but i think the guy organising it liked me a little too much for my personal tastes [10:56] (which he later indicated clearly, altho he was somewhat drunk on both occasions) [10:56] haha [10:56] then in 2005 i won the RDP (sun pays for 1 person from each state) [10:56] then this year i was doing a talk and got travel assistance [10:59] the sad reality of where I live is that almost no tech conferences happen north of Oregon [10:59] all we have around here is LCA :) === sivang admits all this travelling talks whip your appetite for some travelling :) [11:00] sivang, I leave tomorrow morning, in about 4 hours [11:00] and who really wants to hear boring old hackers like linus come & talk? :) [11:00] Burgundavia: yeah, already heared that , good for you :) [11:00] Burgundavia: where are you off to now? [11:00] ajmitch: are you sponsered to go to LCA by the hardware vendor you're writing stuff for? [11:01] ajmitch, Toronto, Ontario Library conference [11:01] Burgundavia, corporate jetsetter [11:01] sivang: certainly not [11:01] sivang: LCA was in dunedin, where I live [11:01] if I owned a suit, I would even get to where that [11:01] s/where/wear [11:01] and this job is after LCA :) [11:01] yeah, jsgotangco , well spoken [11:01] Burgundavia: a suit? nasty [11:01] ajmitch: what type of hardware is that going to be ? [11:02] ajmitch, I do sales now. I am one of those nasty suits that techs talk about [11:02] huhu [11:02] sales [11:02] yeah, but although techs like to talk about them, they stay in office, while those sales people travel al over [11:03] the ones who call you and say "I just promised X. You can deliver that, right?" [11:03] sivang: just some little devices to go in vans, etc [11:03] I'm not entirely clear on the specs [11:03] I've got to read more of the provided docs :) [11:03] ajmitch: hehe :) [11:03] ajmitch: sounds pretty cool. poking in the inner belly of hardware is always interesting. [11:03] ajmitch: is this arm/risc based? [11:04] (/me is thinking about GPS stuff) [11:05] anyway my dear mates, gotta catch something to eat. Laters === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d078077.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] ajmitch: hrm, works supplier is actually slightly more expensive than that price from nintek.com.au [11:32] heh [11:33] some of those prices are impressively cheaper though [11:34] actually [11:34] i lie [11:34] i was looking at the 4400 [11:35] ah [11:35] what price for the 4200? [11:35] oh [11:35] no i wasnt [11:35] i lie [11:35] stop lying! [11:35] i cant help it [11:35] nintek seems to have the cheapest prie anywhere [11:36] yeah, but shipping would probably be cheaper from an east coast supplier [11:37] staticice.com.au only shows 1 other place at that price [11:38] pricespy.co.nz shows a few cheaper than the site I was looking at here === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] Lathiat: I see that shipping costs will probably make it a bit steep [11:46] the preferred retailer I use has free shipping within NZ === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] crimsun: could you and janimo get the changelog-diff and diffstat of exo and thunar on the mailing list as well? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-220.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@82.109.136.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] hello [12:16] dholbach: are you around ? [12:17] yes [12:17] dholbach: how are you ? :) === ajmitch wanders off to sleep [12:17] night all [12:18] pef: could be better - the distro team sprint is full of sick people and I feel quite tired myself [12:18] blame NZ? :) [12:18] :/ hope you won't be ill too [12:19] pef: ++ - I hope that too. :-) [12:19] dholbach: you have main upload rights, isn't it ? [12:19] Yes. [12:21] dholbach: ekiga (old gnomemeeting) is currently broken, libopal.so.2: cannot open shared object file, the fix is to simply rebuild it :) [12:21] error at startup [12:22] I will look into it. I got around 10 bug reports about that already. [12:22] aha [12:22] I'm not entirely convinced, that a rebuild will fix it, I'll look into it later today. [12:22] There was a whole new GNOME, which I'm currently tending. [12:22] 2.13.90 [12:24] a rebuild in my dapper chroot solved the problem, I can use it [12:25] what does apt-cache show ekiga | grep opal say? [12:26] pef: ^ [12:28] dholbach: nothing [12:28] missing bdepends ? [12:28] No. [12:28]