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Lord_Athurhi all04:53
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DeMoNSeEdhello08:00
DeMoNSeEdanyone around08:00
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Infinity-1Hello?11:24
jsgotangcohi there :)11:26
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mhzJaneW: hi there12:23
mhzJaneW: got a minute?12:23
JaneWmhz: hello ... yes12:24
mhzJaneW: As you already noticed, I had problems to do the meeting's minute and when I wanted to do it, I really had no clue what to add regarding technical part :(12:25
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mhzJaneW: on a different matter, I sent an email to Mark on tuesday, regarding the event and tour we are planning here, is it ok if I send it to you too, so you can 'maybe' have him read it soon and give us answer?12:28
JaneWmhz: yes sure12:33
JaneWmhz: we were discussing using moin for the edubuntu web site yesterday btw...12:34
JaneWthought you may be happy to hear that12:34
mhzheheheheh12:34
jsgotangcoJaneW, i got to meet Hande at last12:34
JaneWjsgotangco: cool, I haven't!12:34
JaneWjsgotangco: got pics?12:34
jsgotangcoshe's stunning12:35
mhzJaneW: moin makes me happy, yes, but I feel happier knowing we all are using something we can really work on and fits all our needs12:35
JaneWjsgotangco: how's it going? / gone?12:35
JaneWjsgotangco: really? PICS!12:35
jsgotangcoi'll upload them later12:35
JaneWjsgotangco: I'd expect no less from Mark ;)12:35
jsgotangcoits in my phone12:35
jsgotangcoheh12:35
jsgotangcobut mark wore a suit :/12:35
jsgotangcoand a golden tie...12:36
mhzJaneW: and I thought we were gonna try Drupal instead12:36
=== mhz has not even had time to read the logs :(
mhzjsgotangco: so there was a meeting! :)12:37
jsgotangcowell it was a canonical trip :/12:37
mhzyeah, I should have figured JaneW whould have told us it was cancelled, otherwise we were sticking to the plan.12:38
=== mhz slaps himself
jsgotangcowell12:39
jsgotangcoi just stumbled on it12:39
jsgotangcoi thought them being in london, we won't hvae a meeting12:39
JaneWI forgot and only popped on when I was pinged12:40
JaneWso it was pretty disjointed and impromtu12:40
JaneWsorry12:40
jsgotangcoahhh12:40
jsgotangcostill good results though12:40
=== mhz printing logs to read on the bus
JaneWheh12:41
=== mhz hates to print info from web
jsgotangcomhz, are you still pursuing open content/curriculum?12:41
JaneWthe plague is still ravaging here12:41
mhzjsgotangco: ?12:41
mhzJaneW: plague? M$? disease?12:41
JaneWout of 18 only 6 of us haven't been sick... and I am very tired and lethargic.12:42
jsgotangcomhz, you said before you wanted to add some curricula stuff in edubuntu12:43
mhzJaneW: oh, vitamin C is always welcome and some herbal teas12:43
jsgotangcoare you sure it wasn't sladen?? :)12:44
jsgotangcoheh12:44
JaneWlol12:44
mhzjsgotangco: oh, yes! The tour is intended to show to teachers many of the ideas and the potential still hidden behind edubuntu community12:44
JaneWhe is ot here, but normally he is the carrier of dreaded disease...12:44
mhzso they get motivated to once and for all start collaborating12:45
jsgotangcoJaneW, mark told me the may conf will be in germany :/12:45
JaneWjsgotangco: this is what I have heard...12:45
jsgotangcoand that he wanted to do asia for the next probably in bagalore12:45
mhzJaneW: if in germany or any other place... when should the may conf be?12:46
jsgotangcoa few weeks after release12:46
mhzhmmm, first 10 days in May?12:46
JaneWmhz: yes prolly12:46
JaneWrealease is set for 20 april12:46
=== mhz turns 31 on may 9th!
JaneWcvd will be planning exactly where and when12:47
=== JaneW turns 32 on 30 April
mhzwow!12:47
=== jsgotangco turns 32 on August 28
mhzTHAT'S why you are so lovely!12:47
JaneWheh12:47
JaneWjsgotangco: we are all pretty much the same age as Mark ;)12:47
jsgotangcoexcept he has a billion+ and we don't12:48
mhznah! except he has a jet12:48
mhz;012:48
JaneWjsgotangco: but we have children! :)))12:48
jsgotangcolol12:48
mhz$ doesn't matter, as long as we are happy and our families are healthy12:49
JaneWagreed12:49
=== mhz feels he's a liar!
JaneWheh12:49
jsgotangcomoney money money12:49
mhzYES!!!!12:49
mhz:D12:49
JaneWamended to $ not THE most important thing...12:49
jsgotangcomark was pretty happy here from the looks of it12:49
mhzmoney AND healthy family :D12:49
mhzpics?12:50
jsgotangcoi'll transfer it from my phone later12:50
jsgotangco(bluetooth)12:50
mhzokis12:50
JaneWjsgotangco: I am pleased he finally gave SE Asia a try12:50
jsgotangcobut still...jeez he cut his hair and wore a suit...12:50
JaneWI suspect he will be bitten by the bug and want to keep going back...12:50
=== jsgotangco was forced to wear something formal too...
=== JaneW needs to see the haircut
JaneWhe is doing Bangkok too... 12:51
=== JaneW suspects he will discuover the joys and naughtiness of Thailand too ;)
jsgotangcoeven if he flies in his own jet, its still tiring to do trans pacific flights12:51
jsgotangcoyeah, he asked about the nightlife scene..hehehe12:52
mhzJaneW: email happily knocking on your inbox12:52
JaneWsounds like him...12:52
jsgotangcoyeah12:53
=== \sh just turned 35...and you are still so young ;)
jsgotangcodon't fret12:56
jsgotangcowe'll all past the calendar12:57
jsgotangco:/12:57
jsgotangco30s should be the prime of our lives :)12:58
\shlooks like I have to have a drink with ogra..he is still beating me in age :)12:58
\shjsgotangco: yes...if you like "Hey, you are too old for this job"12:59
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jsgotangco\sh, :( don't feel so bad about it01:00
mhzactually, I get "How can I help you young man"01:00
jsgotangcoheh01:00
jsgotangcothat doesn't happen to me01:01
jsgotangconow they call me sir01:01
jsgotangco:(01:01
mhz\sh: but you'll never be told you are too young if your run for president, that's the good part01:01
jsgotangcolol01:01
mhzlol01:01
\shmhz: president of what? 01:01
mhzany01:01
mhzpresidents are always over 3501:02
mhzafaik01:02
\sh"The > 35ish group of jobless people in germany"?01:02
mhzLOL!!01:02
mhz\sh:  35ish group of jobless people in germany and Chile01:02
=== mhz would vote for you
\shthis president thing reminds me of "Escape from New York": "Yes, I'm the President, I knew when I took this thing, that I'm the President"01:03
\shmhz: oh then I wish that this "\sh for president" thing will never happen :)01:04
mhzhehehe01:05
mhz\sh: but if you give a couple of good speeches to young newbies, i bet they'll follow you :D01:06
\shmhz: well, we have a lot of jobless young people here in germany...but I don't think they will follow me, because they wouldn't understand me :)01:07
mhzoh, well, then you have big issues :p01:08
=== mhz has been jobless for the last 3 months and everytime I get to give speeches, many young newbies want to talk to me... at least if they were girl-groupies!
mhz:D01:09
jsgotangcodue01:09
jsgotangcodude01:09
jsgotangcoi hope you're doing those talks for a good cause :/01:10
mhzlol01:10
\shmhz: well..best thing would be, you will get some money for the talks :01:10
\sh)01:10
mhzjsgotangco: it's good...for whom? well, that depends :D01:10
jsgotangcotalks are good money especially if you do it outside your home country01:11
mhz\sh: oh, no...my wife always tells me the same thing.. "clap, clap, clap,...now make sure the claps become money"01:11
mhzwell, not here, unless you are PhD on some very important subject01:12
jsgotangcomhz, "outside"01:12
mhzhere = latinamerica01:12
\shmhz: I know what you mean. right now I'm waiting for the company I did some work last week..that they pay my money...so I can pay my rent and my car and my ex+son01:13
jsgotangcook outside Latin america01:13
mhzjsgotangco: lol01:13
=== jsgotangco can say it based on experience
jsgotangcobut you really have to work hard and maitain a good reputation :/01:13
mhz\sh: well, i am not saying I feel ok with this but.. if you ever happen not to have money to pay the rent for 3 months... the 4th month you start feeling more "ok" with it :D01:15
mhzjsgotangco: good reputation? hmm, not good future ;001:15
jsgotangcomhz, it comes later01:15
\shmhz: well, my landlord would chase me out when I don't pay my rent this month :)01:15
mhz\sh: any chances you can exchange/trade knowledge or services instead of moeny ?01:17
mhzmoney01:17
\shmhz: no...01:18
mhzwell, I had to ask ;p01:18
\shmoney makes it all..and only money....01:18
\shknowledge is not valuable in germany somehow :)01:18
\shanyways...need to do some knowledge transfer from /dev/web to /dev/brain about java and servlets and jsp stuff...cu later :)01:20
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mhz:D01:22
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Infinity-1can someone tell me howto configure loadlin to start edubuntu install from dos prompt01:24
Infinity-1Thinkpad57001:24
Infinity-1does not recognize usb cdrom01:24
Infinity-1no floppy01:24
mhzInfinity-1: you mean, you have M$ and want to install Edubuntu on that box but it can't boot form CD drive nor Floppy drive?01:25
Infinity-1right01:29
Infinity-1I can boot slax live cd from dos using loadlin included in boot folder from slax cd01:29
Infinity-1linux recognizes usb cdrom01:29
mhzInfinity-1: then, basically, you have to place a couple of files on to your C:\01:29
Infinity-1I have loadlin.exe01:30
Infinity-1and lilo.conf01:30
mhzoooohh, okis01:30
Infinity-1I need to know which device to use for my boot device01:30
Infinity-1I tried /dev/hd101:30
Infinity-1/dev/hd001:30
Infinity-1not sure what it is on thinkpad01:31
mhzInfinity-1: I installed Edubuntu on this laptop, with no CD drive nor floppy drive01:31
Infinity-1I get error message "not able to mount fs"01:31
Infinity-1can you email me the lilo.conf file?01:31
Infinity-1I think that is all I need01:31
Infinity-1and to copy the correct files from the edubuntu cd to the c: drive01:31
Infinity-1just.cruisin@yahoo.com01:32
Infinity-1I would greatly appreciate it01:32
Infinity-1been banging my head for 3 days now01:32
mhzInfinity-1: welll..... I dont have them any more01:33
Infinity-1hmmm ok01:34
mhzbut I got them from the wiki01:34
mhzlet me get the urls for you01:34
mhzplease gimme a minute01:34
Infinity-1thanks!01:34
Infinity-1no worries01:34
Infinity-1take ur time01:34
Infinity-1I am working graveyard shift and want to get edubuntu working when I get home.01:35
Infinity-1how is everybody else doing?01:35
Infinity-1I received my 15 cd's in the mail for ubuntu 2 days ago01:35
Infinity-1and I have already distributed them!01:35
Infinity-1I am in BC, Canada01:36
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mhzInfinity-1: good to hear that01:38
Infinity-1I just ordered some edubuntu cd's - I have 3 kids myself and think we should start with the kids to increase the linux population01:40
mhzInfinity-1: edubuntu cd'?01:42
mhzlocal provider?01:42
Infinity-1I ordered it through the ubuntu site01:43
Infinity-1haven't heard back if they will do it or not01:43
jsgotangcothere's no edubuntu cd yet01:43
Infinity-1I may just have to burn everyone a copy01:43
jsgotangcojust download for now :)01:44
Infinity-1you can download the install cd from their wesite01:44
Infinity-1then burn it01:44
jsgotangco:)01:44
Infinity-1mhz: any luck with the urls01:46
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mhzInfinity-1: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/Netboot01:56
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ograEEEK 01:57
ograwho wrote that ? 01:57
ograxinetd is evil 01:57
mhzInfinity-1: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/FromWindows01:58
mhzogra: not me ;D01:59
ograjust install tftpd-hpa and dont configure anything, thats all preconfigured ...01:59
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Infinity-1thanks mhz02:08
Infinity-1I will try that in 2 hours02:08
Infinity-1when I'm off work02:09
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spaceyogra, did you ever managed to get willow+transparant proxy?02:10
ograspacey, had no time to try ... i will put more effort into content filtering for dapper+102:12
ogra(read that as: i want to have it as a high prio distro target for edubuntu dapper+1)02:12
spaceyyeah sure02:13
spaceyjust wondering02:13
ograbut iirc i had it running with transparent proxying when i tested it02:14
Infinity-1mhz: if ur there thanks! gotta run. be back l8r02:17
mhz_BBSogra: you may like this http://vybiral.info/mockup/tango-windowsXP.PNG02:22
jsgotangcolol02:23
jsgotangconice fonts though02:24
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mhz_BBSjsgotangco: http://www.openworkshop.org/03:07
mhz_BBSmoin freak site03:07
jsgotangcooh my god03:08
jsgotangcofreaky moin hakcs03:08
mhz_BBSyup03:08
mhz_BBSwell, except the Calendar03:09
mhz_BBSthat's MoinCalendar in action03:09
jsgotangcoyeah03:10
jsgotangcothat's pretty cool03:10
=== jsgotangco wonders if there is wikipedia calendar
jsgotangcoerr03:10
jsgotangcomediawiki calendar03:10
mhz_BBShehehe03:10
mhz_BBSwell, I can show you a Moin looking just like mediawiki03:11
mhz_BBShttp://beta.el-directorio.org:8080/Instalando_MozEx_en_Firefox_103:11
mhz_BBSwell, that was 1.503:13
mhz_BBSand this is 1.4 http://wiki.slec.net/wiki/Ayuda_de_uso_Zope_de_emacs03:13
jsgotangcoi need mediawiki :/03:16
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thefamousnomohello people!07:56
thefamousnomoi am having install issues with edubuntu 5.10 on hp e-vectra...07:57
thefamousnomoamong other errors i am generally getting to 50% ltdp client...07:57
thefamousnomoanyone able to help?07:57
thefamousnomoanyone even here?07:58
thefamousnomothanx07:58
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mhzre08:26
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DeMoNSeEdhello08:46
DeMoNSeEdanyone aboot?08:46
DeMoNSeEdi seem to need some help with GCompris08:47
DeMoNSeEdanyone here?08:49
lucasvoDeMoNSeEd: please ask a more specific question08:50
DeMoNSeEdfirst i wanted to establish if indeed there was a live body in here.......okay, i'm running Breezy on box boxes here, i installed gcompris on my wife's machine for my daughter to play, it seems to install fine, comes up okay, but when she chooses the memory games in gcompris, it comes up, what happens is, when she makes a match, gcompris kicks out totally08:53
DeMoNSeEd*both boxes08:53
DeMoNSeEdi at first thought it might have been because i also had install Childsplay in there too, so i tried installing gcompris on my box, so it's alone, i get the same thing, it kicks08:55
DeMoNSeEdshe's very yoing so memory is anongst the few she can play08:56
DeMoNSeEd*young08:56
lucasvoDeMoNSeEd: sorry, I can't help you about that08:56
DeMoNSeEdk, thanks....it's kinds of a p.o08:57
DeMoNSeEdhopefully this will be fixed by the time Dapper comes out08:58
DeMoNSeEdbut again, thanks for listenin08:58
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mhzDeMoNSeEd: could it be due to lack of memory?09:03
DeMoNSeEdi doubt it09:03
DeMoNSeEdi've got 512 on mine09:04
mhzoh09:04
mhzDeMoNSeEd: but are you running Edubuntu (LTSP -> client boxes ?)09:05
DeMoNSeEdit's frustrating as i knw that on other distros it works fine, but her machine runs like a dream on everything else, i had to blow off a perfectly good system due to 1 thing09:05
DeMoNSeEdnope, i'm running breezy (ubuntu) 09:05
DeMoNSeEdi apt -get gcompris09:06
mhzhmmm09:06
mhzDeMoNSeEd: apt-get install childsplay09:06
DeMoNSeEdi had asked in bunty room, but in the tradition of deb derivs, i was totally ignored till i was told, like we care about gcompris, just take it out man......that was huge help09:07
mhzand in the meantime, please run gcompris from a terminal so when it kicks out we can know WHY it does it09:07
DeMoNSeEdk, if i boot it in term it does show something about gnomecanvas09:07
mhzDeMoNSeEd: they ignored you and were not polite to you in a #ubuntu room?09:08
DeMoNSeEdand yup, i do have childsplay in there, it works like a dream, prob being it doesn't have as much to offer as gcompris09:08
DeMoNSeEdyup09:09
DeMoNSeEdi'm not new, so i am very familar with Deb folk09:09
DeMoNSeEdi deal in migrations.....57 from windass to ubuntu to date, so i'm very sensitive to such, as i advise all my converts to seek help in irc, but i digress, that another matter09:10
DeMoNSeEdgimme 5, i'll apt gcompris back into her machime, i had indeed removed it last night, i'll boot it in term and show you what it gives09:11
DeMoNSeEdk?09:12
mhzDeMoNSeEd: I would please encorage you to save that logfile, and present it to ogra or someone else. AFAIK, every channel has admins, and each admin has signed Code of Conduct 09:13
DeMoNSeEdogra?09:13
mhzyup09:14
mhzMr. Edubuntu09:14
DeMoNSeEdk, but it didn't happen in here, to be fair, you're being huge help, this took place in the ubuntu room proper and it's far some an isolated incident, you've brought back my faith in ubuntu a little, just by your helping here...the main room should be such09:16
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DeMoNSeEdk, brb09:18
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DeMoNSeEdthis is what i get in term if i boot it from term09:19
DeMoNSeEd** (gcompris:24366): WARNING **: config_file /home/jacqui/.gcompris/gcompris.conf09:20
DeMoNSeEd** Message: gcompris_set_locale 'ca'09:20
DeMoNSeEdinit_plugins 0.379278 sec.09:20
DeMoNSeEdgcompris_load_menus 0.415322 sec.09:20
DeMoNSeEdgcompris_load_mime_types 0.430239 sec.09:20
DeMoNSeEd__main__:1: DeprecationWarning: Module gnome.canvas is deprecated; please import gnomecanvas instead09:20
DeMoNSeEdNot using psyco (psyco.sf.net), AI not a maximum speed!09:20
DeMoNSeEd(gcompris:24366): GnomeCanvas-CRITICAL **: gnome_canvas_item_set_valist: assertion `GNOME_IS_CANVAS_ITEM (item)' failed09:20
DeMoNSeEd(gcompris:24366): GnomeCanvas-CRITICAL **: gnome_canvas_item_set_valist: assertion `GNOME_IS_CANVAS_ITEM (item)' failed09:20
DeMoNSeEdSegmentation fault09:20
DeMoNSeEdit comes up great, but there's a rubiks cube looking game section, in which has memory type card...match pics game, they come up all right, but once you match 2 pics, the whole thing kicks out totally09:21
mhzDeMoNSeEd: I have no clue what GNOME_canvas is09:21
mhzI use Wmaker and XFCE :(09:21
DeMoNSeEdas me09:21
DeMoNSeEdk09:21
DeMoNSeEdi'm grateful for you trying, very much so09:22
DeMoNSeEdhopefully Dapper will be okay09:22
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mhzthx, at least we now have that output09:22
mhzdid you google for gnome.canvas09:22
DeMoNSeEdlike i saids before, i know i can run gcompris on other distros, as i already have, but i don't want to take off a perfectly running system for 1 build09:23
mhzsure09:23
DeMoNSeEdnope, but the time i gave up trying to get an answer i was a lil frustrated and had just stepped away for a bit09:24
DeMoNSeEdi do the goog and see09:24
DeMoNSeEdthanks again, you're doing a great job09:24
DeMoNSeEdi'll pop back after09:25
DeMoNSeEdthanks again.....take care09:25
mhzDeMoNSeEd: or09:25
DeMoNSeEdor?09:25
mhzmaybe it is indeed a bug09:25
mhzand reporting it could be good idea09:25
mhzDeMoNSeEd: hold on, let me ask a friend about canvas09:26
DeMoNSeEdk, i'll look at gcompris site09:26
DeMoNSeEdfor bug reports...k..i'll hang in09:26
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DeMoNSeEdi'll be back in bout 15 mins09:35
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