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flipjargCan anyone tell me how to upgrade the ubuntu bittorrent to the bittorrent from bittorrent.com? It's a deb file that i have to manually install.12:06
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visik7anyone on breezy that has security repo up can do an apt-get install perl-suid12:07
visik7and tell me if it works ?12:07
flipjargCant you enable the repo?12:08
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starhawkI am in terminal and tring to su and it wont Authenticate for me I know the password and it still wont do it12:09
flipjargvisik7: It will install for me.12:09
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kernel_i386is there a new package for konversation?12:10
visik7flipjarg: can u put an apt-file policy perl-suid ?12:10
visik7sorry12:10
visik7apt-cache policy perl-suid12:10
owner!automatix12:10
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.12:10
visik7and show it to me ?12:10
flipjargi don't know how to.12:10
visik7flipjarg: www.pastebin.com12:10
visik7flipjarg: paste it there12:10
eightieskhow do i veiw movies in mozilla?12:11
flipjargvisik7: Is this something i should do after it's installed, because i didn't go through with the install.12:11
visik7no12:11
flipjargok12:11
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visik7u don't need12:11
starhawkI am in terminal and tring to su and it wont Authenticate for me I know the password and it still wont do it12:12
flipjargah i see what it does... here is the link......12:12
flipjarghttp://pastebin.com/53460012:12
visik7flipjarg: can u paste apt-cache show perl-suid too ?12:13
flipjargsu12:13
flipjarg*sure12:13
Hobbsee!tell flipjarg about sudo12:14
visik7got the problem12:14
visik7flipjarg: thanks12:14
flipjargHobbsee: i already know about that, but thanks :-)12:14
Hobbseewell, why are you using su, rather than sudo then?12:15
visik7be back soon12:15
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flipjargbecause then i don't have to type sudo every time i want to use a command as root.12:17
rich0rdsudo bash12:17
flipjargdidn't knwo about 'sudo bash'12:18
flipjargthanks12:18
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starhawkhelp I cant become su12:20
Hobbsee!sudo12:21
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.12:21
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kernel_i386where can I set the font color for the "konqueror" file manager - like the files that displayed are "grey" on "grey" almost  - don't find it in Appearance settings menu12:25
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skypaany ideas on how to handle an accidental "mkdir old ; mv /* old/" over ssh? :/12:25
skypahe won't let me run "mv" from that new dir.. missing libraries I guess12:25
skypadamn shame12:25
ownerhow about cp12:27
ownerand then rm the old dir12:27
skypacp also won't do it12:27
skypamhh, that's a thinker12:27
skypaI would just boot from a live system if that system wouldn't be about 10 miles away12:28
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bimberiskypa: does using 'old/bin/mv' work?12:30
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skypabash: /old/bin/mv: No such file or directory12:30
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bimberino leading /12:30
skypaalthough it's correct.. it even displays with TAB completion12:30
skypa*tries.that*12:30
skypanah, same12:31
bimberik :|12:31
laszlokIs it worth the trouble to upgrade to 3.5.1, or are there problems?12:31
skypathat is tricky12:31
dark_suici haven't had any in a few days12:31
ownerit is recommended laszlok12:31
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eightieskhow do i watch movies in firefox1.512:31
eightiesk?12:32
skypaapt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc12:32
skypakaffeine provides a plugin, mplayer does too12:33
laszlokeightiesk: install mozilla-mplayer12:33
skypapick one :)12:33
eightieskand also why does my kaffeine not playt stuff12:34
eightieskit  says its busy.12:34
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eightieskresource busy or not aval.?12:35
eightieskne1 have ne idea?12:37
skypasry m812:38
kernel_i386anyone got an idea where to find amarok support?12:39
skypahow about #amarok12:39
dark_suickernel_i386, what you need?12:39
kernel_i386ow..12:39
kernel_i386well.. I'd like a script that shuts my pc down after playback end12:40
kernel_i386since I am listening to radioplays till I sleep and dont want my pc being on all night12:40
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dark_suicwell, if you're listening to radio plays, amarok shouldn't know when it stops, should it?12:41
Hobbseekernel_i386: get your machine to shut down at a certain time then?12:41
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kernel_i386no, Hobbsee - but I was told that it's existing12:42
kernel_i386dark_suic - I don't know the word for it.. ..12:42
kernel_i386it's not really radio.. but a few decades ago when not all had TV, radio plays were popular... and I think it kept the name..12:43
laszlokkernel_i386: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2225112:43
kernel_i386even if it's not played in the radio12:43
kernel_i386thanks laszlok12:44
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ninjakinhello i see that ff is now 1.5.0.1 is out how can i go about updating it i have 1.5 now but the "check for  updates" is grayed out.12:47
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visik7someone should fix the fileshare module in kde3.5.112:48
`NomadFF 1.5?  really?  kewl12:54
skypa1.5.0.1?12:55
skypawhat did they change.. one icon? :p12:56
`NomadI think the kerning between the o and x has changed a bit  hehe12:56
Hobbseespeaking of icons, i want the proper FF icon back...12:56
visik7kdenetwork-filesharing is broken in 3.5.112:57
ninjakin yeah12:57
visik7(kubuntu packages)12:57
Hobbseevisik7: filed a bug for it?12:57
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ninjakinbut anyoen know why the check for updates is greyed out?12:57
visik73.5.1 isn't in breezy12:57
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visik7dunno if I can bug report something isn't in the official distro12:58
ninjakinthey need to put out drake.. or aleast a new beta12:58
Hobbseeninjakin: new beta of what?12:58
Hobbseeof drake?12:58
ninjakindrake12:58
Hobbseejust get the previous one and update - simple12:58
`Nomad!easysource12:58
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:58
Hobbseeninjakin: how'd you install firefox?01:01
ninjakini followed the wiki01:02
Hobbseeso who owns /opt/?  root?01:02
ninjakinum let me check01:02
kernel_i386how can I change my local LAN ip address?01:02
ninjakinyeha root01:03
ninjakinso would i just need to open ff as root?01:03
Hobbseei'd try - use sudo firefox01:04
Hobbseemake sure you dont browse any more pages than you have to - just do the update01:05
Knowerrorshow do I change number of colors for an image in Krita?01:05
kernel_i386do I have to reboot after I changed my LOCAL LAN iP address?01:06
ninjakinhahaha!! oh wow im an stupid01:06
trooper00kernel_i386: no :p take the interface down. bring it back up01:06
kernel_i386how do I do that`?01:06
ninjakinthanks Hobbsee01:06
trooper00kernel_i386: well from the command line, ifup <interface> and ifdown <interface> would do it, if you have them defined in the /etc/network/interfaces file01:07
Hobbseekernel_i386: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0 usually01:07
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kernel_i386thanks01:07
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ninjakinhow do i check to see what ver of kde im running?01:08
Hobbseeninjakin: konversation --version01:09
ninjakinthanks yeah i jsut got that right wehn you sent it01:09
ninjakindo i really need 3.5.1?01:09
ninjakinnaw...01:10
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DirkGentlyis the Live CD only in German? I couldn't tell how to change it to English01:10
deaconAnybody here know if there is a driver that will work with a canon CP-200 photo printer?01:10
DirkGently(because all the instructions were German)01:10
ninjakinbleach time...!01:10
KnowerrorsIve got an image with 65535 colors, want it to be 255, how do I do that?01:11
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KnowerrorsKrita should do it, but I don't know how01:13
`Nomadgimp?01:16
`NomadIs it a drawing type picture or a photo?01:16
Knowerrorsdon't have gimp...01:16
`Nomadhow come?  It's just one command away  :)01:17
KnowerrorsIm on dialup 28.8 modem01:17
Knowerrorstakes forever to download gimp01:17
Knowerrorswill if I have to01:17
`Nomadahh ok.. Well if it's better, anc for a limited time, you can send it to me and I,ll see what i can do..01:18
`Nomadanc = and01:18
Knowerrorsthe image is a pnm drawing01:18
`Nomad:D01:18
Knowerrors.pnm01:18
Knowerrorshehe01:18
`Nomadif you have the install CD, it would be on there01:18
KnowerrorsI opened the original image, which was 255 colors, to change the size from 704 to 720, then saved it, Krita changed the color range w/o asking me01:19
Knowerrors'Nomad, on the Kubuntu install CD?01:19
`Nomadyup01:19
`NomadKrita is for SVG tyoe drawings anyway Then again, i don't knwo what a pnm file is :)01:20
Knowerrorswhats the apt command for installing off of cd?01:21
`Nomadwell if you can just browse to it, double-click the file and it will ask if you,d liek to install01:21
trooper00Knowerrors: edit your sources.list file. add the cd to the list of respositories.01:22
`NomadIf you find it there as a deb, the command would be dpkg -i filename.deb01:22
Knowerrorsgot it sudo apt-cdrom add01:22
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WillySillyanyone know where i can find the patches ubuntu applies to their packages?01:22
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Knowerrors`Nomad: it aint on the cd01:24
`Nomadah?  sorry01:25
`NomadI usually get the DVDs myself, but I would have thought it was on teh CDs01:26
`NomadMy offer still stands, if you send me it I'll resize/resample and send back01:26
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Knowerrorsok01:27
Knowerrorsjust a sec01:28
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SetNetworking in Kubuntu = nightmare01:32
Knowerrors`Nomad: nevermind, gimp isn't that big01:35
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dark_suicwow, that's a clever person... enters a channel, flames and goes out01:36
`NomadI know :)01:38
bimberiwell as long as (s)he feels much better now :P01:38
Kaiser_Awayhi `Nomad :)01:39
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`NomadOh I'm sorry I missed your file, I was on anothe rscreen absorned in translating01:39
`Nomadhi01:39
Kaiser_Away:)01:39
Hobbseedark_suic: hehe yeah01:39
`NomadGod teh typos are flying low tonight01:39
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Kaiser_Awaylol01:41
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fabioopa01:42
[Nirvana] cheers01:43
fabioalgum sabe me dizer pq o media:\ s esta mostrando o floppy??01:43
[Nirvana] read here on other language: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat01:43
`Nomadsudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy01:44
`NomadI think is what they are asking?01:44
[Nirvana] buh..01:45
fabiosorry, my konqueror diplay only icon the floppy and no show icons the partitions01:45
`Nomadahh01:46
fabioin media:\01:46
`NomadThat is still a mystery to me too01:46
bobesponjadoes anybody know how do I know the current resolution I'm using?01:46
bobesponja(on xorg)01:46
[Nirvana] fabio: it was taken out in KDE 3.501:47
bobesponjafabio: it's back in 3.5.101:47
bobesponjafabio: you need to install kde 3.5.1, it was a bug with hal/kde incompatibility01:48
fabioi m upgrade for 3.5.101:48
bobesponjafabio: go to kubuntu.org and grab the debs01:48
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fabiovia adept with new mirrors for kde 3.5.101:49
[Nirvana] Hey `Nomad, is there a bug in Adept Updater? I tried to update to KDE 3.5.1, and when I used adept updater (I usually use the command line, but I wanted to see why there was 4 pkgs being lept back), and instead of updating, it removed all KDE components! It was weird. Thankfully, I know how to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :P or else I'd be screwed01:49
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[Nirvana] that said, I'm on a Windows computer now, and boy is it strange!01:50
`Nomadweird..01:50
[Nirvana] yep01:50
`NomadI once removed everything KDE all at once by stupidly not reading about all the dependent packages it was going to remove if I took out package A..  That was scary.. .01:50
[Nirvana] now gotta re-d/l KDE 3.5.1 all over again... on a slow connection... and there's only an hour left now!01:50
`NomadI grabbed the screen output and did a apt-get install of all those packages before I rebooted01:51
`Nomadhour left for what?01:51
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[Nirvana] downloading kubunt-desktop and kde 3.5.101:51
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[Nirvana] chatzilla is a neat app btw :D fits right into Fx01:52
`NomadI always use the command line too, or simply adept, very rarely the adept-updater01:52
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[Nirvana] yeah, I figured it would load faster...but now I realize.. adept updater = dist-upgrade01:53
[Nirvana] the updater in adept = ugrade01:53
[Nirvana] or at least, I think that's it01:53
`Nomadprobably01:53
evilhi need help getting my usb drive to work01:53
`Nomadyou know that for 3.5.1 you have to do a dist-upgrade right?01:54
[Nirvana] yep01:54
`Nomadoops, should have read up first01:54
[Nirvana] no wait, no,01:54
`NomadI just still wish I coudl mak emy laser printer work.. I am stuck with CUPS authentication01:54
[Nirvana] dist-upgrade = breezy > Dapper01:54
`Nomadhaven't been able to figure it out01:55
[Nirvana] maybe you have to make the group "printer" and give is access?01:55
`Nomadreally? I never realized.  Dapper is officially coming out in March or April right?01:55
[Nirvana] I did that with my Epson stylus color 777 :D01:55
`NomadI hav etried so many things I don't know anymore01:56
[Nirvana] evilh: post the prob of your usb drive, we don't bite01:56
[Nirvana] evilh: most usb drives are plug and play, well, at least most MP3 players are plug and play01:56
`NomadShitty thing is, linux is actually supported by Samsung.. But when I try to use thir installer, I get stuck at that CUPS auth. prob.01:56
`Nomadvery frustrating..01:57
`NomadI've used it with another printer's driver, but it'd be nice to have all the functions, like 2 pages per sheet, etc..01:57
[Nirvana] email them01:57
`NomadI will01:59
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`Nomadbut I figure it's more of a Kubuntu CUPS config issue.. Using sudo instead of root maybe01:59
[Nirvana] ahh, maybe it's like the webmin conundrum!02:00
[Nirvana] webmin needs su to install (or something like that)02:00
[Nirvana] maybe the installer is the same way02:00
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[Nirvana] welcome back evilh02:00
evilhsorry bout the sudden log off02:00
evilhlaptop locked up02:01
evilhbut now my usb stick is working02:01
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evilhit was saying that it couldnt create the folder for it before02:01
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Nirvanaforty five mins :P02:04
`NomadNirvana: I think so yes02:06
Nirvana!cookie02:09
ubotuHey nirvana, ops noobhelp #DEL# is being naughty02:09
Nirvana!fortune02:09
ubotuNirvana: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:09
Nirvana!cookie02:09
Nirvana!cookie02:09
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NirvanaI want a cookie!02:09
Nirvanayaaay!02:10
NirvanaOMG! Best. NTFS. Info. Ever02:10
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owner!cookie02:11
ubotuHey owner, howcome is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth02:11
owner!botsnack02:11
ubotuthanks owner :)02:11
owner!dance02:11
ubotudance is, like, totally, o/-<  o|-<  o\-<02:11
Nirvanaoooooo, your good :D02:11
ownerlol02:11
Nirvana^^ he's a good dancer, quick on his feet02:12
ClayGanyone know a good lightweight web browser that supports https?for the gui?02:13
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NirvanaDillo is lightweight, but it doesn't render pages good02:14
owneryes02:14
ownerits very basic02:14
owneri recommend operaa02:14
owneropera02:14
ownernow that its free02:15
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Nirvanaopera is lightweight?02:16
ownerprobably02:16
NirvanaI thought it was like Fx, but yeah, Opera rocks because it's QT, like KDE, and will look better than Firefox02:17
`Nomadreally?02:18
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owneroperas still lighter than firefox02:18
Nirvanalol, whoever is sending me chuck norris jokes in my inbox is pissing me off... I don't even know who he is, but someone thinks it's02:18
Nirvana"cool"02:18
`Nomad!google chuck norris02:19
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, `Nomad02:19
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rancecould someone point me to some docs for getting apache2 to work correctly, the package doesnt seem to be configured correclty, and I'm not sure what needs to be changed02:19
`Nomadrance: what's wrong?02:19
Nirvanato say that chuck norris doesn't teabag people, he potato sacls them--- WHO CARES?02:19
`Nomadand have you tried #apache if there is one?02:20
NirvanaI know CN is an actore from a 6002:20
Nirvana60's TV show02:20
PaloDeQuesoKoffice 1.5 beta1 mirrors down?02:20
rance`Nomad, Im not sure, possibly nothing, hand on a sec, it didnt work last night, but its trying to now02:20
`Nomadrance: is it accessibl from the web?02:21
rancewell, I think I get it now02:21
`Nomadkewl02:21
evilhi got a retarded noob question02:21
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`Nomadgo!02:21
`Nomad:)02:21
`Nomadthere are no bad questions02:22
NirvanaPaloDeQueso: try "ping -c 3 http://<mirror here>.com" and see if it responds02:22
evilhhow do you play .wma files02:22
Nirvanaevilh: aren't we all retarded noobs :P02:22
ranceIm used to the web root being /var/www/htdocs, with /var/www/cgi-bin and all that, and with this package, all of that is missing, you just have to add it yourself02:22
`Nomadreally?02:22
`Nomadrance: mine was /var/www02:22
evilhnirvana: yes but i am the king02:22
evilhbeen using linux all of 6 days02:23
ranceIve got /var/www/ but I dont have any /var/www/*02:23
`Nomadoh..02:23
Nirvana.wma files = gstreamer plugin02:23
`NomadI had this in /var/www  --->  apache2-default02:23
Nirvanasudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins-0.802:23
`Nomadno htdocs02:23
Nirvanaevilh: try: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins-0.8 (may not work, not on a linux comp right now)02:24
evilhok02:24
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ranceIm just used to /var/www/htdocs /var/www/cgi-bin /var/www/icons, and like that02:24
`NomadNirvana:  I can't get that exact file, it's got an issue with libfame0.9 or something02:24
`Nomadrance: that may have been apache1 :)02:25
Nirvanaevilh: if it doesn't work, try enabling extra repos, and getting the other plugins package (after an apt-get update of course!)02:25
Nirvana`Nomad: maybe enable extra repos?02:25
rancewell, its apache2 on my old distro (im still getting used to kubuntu)02:25
`NomadI thought I did02:25
`NomadI used easysource02:25
evilhhow do you enable other repos. the only thing i found was for ubuntu not kubuntu02:26
`NomadI went with the cipherfunk one, upgrading to 3.5.1, none of my audio/video stuff worked02:26
`Nomaduntil I used cipherfunk02:26
Nirvanaevilh: one sec02:26
`Nomadubotu tell evilh about easysource02:26
ranceI installed mplayer, and the w32codecs, but Im getting an error from mplayer, just as soon as mplayer opens a video file, I get an error message about a font missing, why does mplayer need a font to play a video?02:27
`NomadIs it a movie about text files?02:27
`Nomadlol02:27
Nirvanaevilh: I'm just guessing here, but I think this is the correct URL for how to enable extra repositories: http://psychocats.net/linux/sources.php02:27
rancethe video plays correctly behind the message02:27
`NomadI had the same..  now it's gone, I never really looked into it02:27
ranceit isnt one of those darned "run as root to configure first" apps is it?02:28
Nirvanarance: you have to symlink the font you want to use for subtitles in your .mplayer dir02:28
ranceoh, ok02:28
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rancedidnt offer any help, just barked that something wasnt right02:29
Nirvanaas in ln -s /dir/font/font.ttf subtitles.ttf (I can't tell the exact filenames and directories because I'm not on my linux box, but the font file subtitles.ttf > substitute it for the one you want02:30
`NomadHow do I clear my apt-get update process.. I'm stuck in a loop where install -f won't work02:30
`NomadThe following packages have unmet dependencies:02:30
`Nomad  gstreamer0.8-fame: Depends: libfame0 but it is not going to be installed02:30
NirvanaI did that, then it worked. Then I found vlc, which is 100000x better02:30
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Nirvana`Nomad: sudo kill xxxx (where xxx is apt-get's process ID, you can find it in "top")02:31
Nirvanathis updating stuff is a joke...it takes too long :(02:32
`Nomadoh it,s not running, I meant that now I can't update02:32
NirvanaI know what'll cheer me up though02:32
Nirvana!dance02:32
ubotumethinks dance is o/-<  o|-<  o\-<02:32
`Nomadyup, VLC is it!02:32
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Nirvana`Nomad: "remove gstreamer-fame --purge" ?02:33
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ClayGA while ago on a freinds compuer i saw a program called "file system visualizer" it was this cool gui that showed the FS. Is there anything apt-get'able for ubunut/kubuntu?02:33
Nirvanaflashlight?02:34
NirvanaI don't think that's what you want though02:34
fabiohello, I resolved the problem with icons on media:\02:34
Nirvanaclayg: FileLight, not flashlight xP02:34
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ClayGfilelight02:35
fabiothe command: sudo adduser hal disk02:35
ClayG?02:35
NirvanaClayG: I know it looks cool, and it has disk usage and stuff02:36
ClayGvery good man02:36
ClayGahh it's similar to it02:36
ClayGthanks02:36
Nirvanatry googling for it and looking at a screenie02:36
fabiothanks, Nirvana and Nomad02:37
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`Nomad;)02:37
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Nirvanaahhhh02:39
Nirvanafour-day weekend^^02:39
evilhkaffeine is the gui for xine in kubuntu right?02:39
Nirvanakaffeine uses gstreamer, you have to manually install the xine engine02:39
`Nomadtotem-xine works well i think02:40
Nirvanayep, totem media player is pretty good (not VLC-good, but hey, can't beat the best...)02:40
evilhcause im trying to follow the following forums instructions:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7022702:40
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Nirvanaevilh: broken link?02:42
evilhhuh?02:42
Nirvanaohhh, not it's not, it's cause I'm still d/ling kde 3.5.1...02:42
fabionomad: i no have susses in sudo apt-get install w32codecs. The package exists in kubuntu repository?02:42
NirvanaI thought it was done :(02:42
evilhaccordint to what ive read they removed the repository for legal resons02:43
Nirvanafabio: add the PLF repository02:43
ranceare there any sql-ledger users in here?02:43
Nirvanagoogle search PLF ubuntu02:43
Hobbsee!w32codecs02:43
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:43
fabiook thanks ...02:44
evilhubotu: thanks that did the trick02:45
ubotubitte, evilh02:45
Nirvanahobbsee: is there a list of those commands?02:45
Hobbseeof factoids?02:46
Hobbseeyeah02:46
Hobbsee!blah02:46
ubotuHobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:46
HobbseeNirvana: ^02:46
evilhdeutsch!!02:46
`Nomadevilh: ubotu is a bot. ;)02:47
evilhi know02:47
`Nomadohhh  lol02:47
`Nomadok02:47
`Nomadhe/she is pretty handy02:47
evilhvery02:47
Hobbseedefinetly!02:47
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bimberi!blah02:48
ubotuSame to you bimberi02:48
bimberi:P02:48
brodelwhat is the best program to use to watch mov files on kubuntu?02:48
`Nomadmine pop up in totem02:49
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`Nomadgoing through some lynda.com stuff rightnow02:49
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Hobbseehehe @ bimberi02:50
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ubuntuhey, I stupidly installed windows after linux02:51
bimberi:) (factoid now forgotten btw - nowanna get banned :) )02:51
Nirvanaubuntu: smart02:52
ubuntunow im on the live CD02:52
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ubuntuwith my hard drives mounted02:52
ubuntuso how do i fix grub02:52
bimberiubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:52
ubuntuthanks02:52
Nirvanabimberi: I was just about to press enter, you cheat!!02:53
Nirvanalol02:53
`Nomadhehehe02:53
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Nirvanabrb, gonna test out the newly updated kde 3.5.102:55
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bimberi:)02:59
Calilasseia-Hello everyone ....03:00
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NirvanaI am back!03:00
CalilasseiaI need a little help ... connecting a friend's new installation to the net ....03:00
bimberihi Calilasseia03:00
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fabiowow thanks nirvana and ubotu, now I can see my videos and animes03:00
fyrmedicI have a problem with hanging while "Looking up www.whateversite.xyz" in firefox can anyone help?03:00
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`Nomadwhat,s teh link?03:01
CalilasseiaIt's a clean install of Kubuntu,  with an NTL cable modem connected to the PC via Ethernet ...03:01
CalilasseiaAt the moment there's no net connection ...03:02
fyrmedicit happens with any link that I want to load. It usually hangs for 10 to 20 seconds before it loads then generally loads at normal speed..03:02
CalilasseiaWhat do I need to do to make the connection?03:02
`Nomadfyrmedic: sounds like you may have routing issues, or DNS03:02
HobbseeCalilasseia: sudo ifup eth0?03:02
CalilasseiaMy friend's instllation is the Hoary Hedgehog version ...03:03
CalilasseiaHang on I'll take notes ...03:03
Hobbseewhy back on hoary?  oh yeah, cant upgrade to breezy, with no net connection...oops lol03:03
fyrmedic`Nomad: I have redone the DNS in kubuntu a couple of times and played around with the router, which isn't having issues with any other computers. I think that firefox is doing the lookups on very remote DNS servers.03:04
CalilasseiaMy own installation is upgraded to breezy, but until the net connection is extant on this other machine it'll be stuck in Hoary ...03:04
Hobbsee!networking03:05
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee03:05
Hobbsee!network03:05
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.03:05
`Nomaddo you have those proxy settings on?03:06
CalilasseiaHang on, I'm chatting in Trillian on Windows, so I can't look up the manual for ifup yet ... will do that when I switch to Linux ...03:06
fyrmedic`Nomad: I don't have a proxy server. I use a default gateway and it is set right03:06
`Nomadok03:06
CalilasseiaAre there any config files I need to edit to forge the connection or will ifup do that automatically?03:07
HobbseeCalilasseia: /etc/network/interfaces - check that there's a line called auto eth0 in there, towards the top03:07
Hobbseealso check that it's eth0 instead of eth1 - if it's eth1, change it in the interfaces file03:08
`Nomadfyrmedic: I was referring to the connection settings, under the general tab in preferences(Firefox)03:08
CalilasseiaGot ti - took notes ... "auto eth0" ....03:08
`Nomadmaybe your firefox is trying to detect proxies03:09
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CalilasseiaAny other details in the network config files to check out while I'm doing this? IP address etc?03:09
Hobbsee_awayyeah, network manager in system settings might help03:10
CalilasseiaAnd do I need to tell the system about the modem's MAC address or will it fetch that automatically?03:10
Hobbsee_awayifconfig will show some interesting bits - what's connected03:10
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SigmaXndiswrapper.  modprobe tells me "permission denied" (Yes I'm sudo'd).  Any help?03:12
CalilasseiaSigmaX, did you just sudo or did you "sudo su" to remain in super user mode for the duration of your terminal session?03:12
SigmaXCalilasseia: Nope, didn't do sudo su03:13
SigmaX"sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"03:13
CalilasseiaOnly "sudo su"  might -however I stress "might" - resolve this ...03:13
SigmaXI even set a password for root and logged in directly. No luck.03:13
CalilasseiaDo "sudo su" then "modprobe ndiswrapper" and see if that helps ...03:13
CalilasseiaInteresting ...03:13
SigmaXit yields "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"03:13
CalilasseiaHmm ... I'm still in the learning curve myself by the way :)03:14
CalilasseiaYou couldn't even do it logged in as root? Strange ...03:14
SigmaXCalilasseia: Nope.  So I assume there must be a greater issue at hand. :-|.03:15
CalilasseiaHang on I'll log out of windows and fire up Kubuntu ... disconnecting ...03:15
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CalilasseiaBe back in 3 mins or so when Kubuntu is up and running ... bye....03:16
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evilhanyone have kubuntu installed on a hp pavilion ze5700 laptop03:16
evilhdoes anyone have kubuntu installed on a hp pavilion ze5700 laptop?03:19
NirvanaOMG, in KDE 3.5.1, the fonts are MASSIVE!03:20
SigmaXevilh: Apparently not.03:20
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Peolohi03:20
SigmaXNirvana: .... are they not customizable as in every other KDE version?03:20
`NomadNirvana: More font for your buck huh?  :)03:20
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Peoloanyone of you using tor proxy and privoxy with kubuntu ?03:20
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Nirvanayeah, I had them customized to my liking in 3.5, then,in 3.5.1, they are massive!!!03:21
Peologet this error when i try to start privoxy http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/168703:21
calilasseiaHello again ....03:21
Nirvanacrap, how do I roll back the fonts to their original settings03:21
Peolohi calilasseia03:21
evilhpoo was hoping someone could tell me how to get the function keys to work03:21
SigmaXwb calilasseia03:21
calilasseiaHello SigmaX ....just trying something now ...03:22
calilasseiaRight, I just did "sudo su" followed by "modprobe ndiswrapper" and got no errors ....03:23
calilasseiaI've got Breezy running by the way ...03:23
SigmaXcalilasseia: Me too.03:24
SigmaXcalilasseia: I thought it would have been the driver I installed before modprobing... but I tried it on a clean system with the same results.03:24
fatejudgerfglrx doesn't work in 2.6.15-14, is this because ATI hasn't released the drivers for it yet?03:24
SigmaXWait... no... not same error.03:24
calilasseiaRight, try modprobe -v ndiswrapper to make it report everything it does ...03:24
SigmaXinsmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko03:26
SigmaXFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted03:26
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Nirvanaanyone know how I can rollback to the default font and style of Kubuntu?03:26
calilasseiaHmm ... weird ....03:26
calilasseiatry modprobe --showconfig to dump the configuration file ...03:27
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calilasseiaMight be something in there that gives a clue ... missing dependency etc ...03:27
calilasseiaBe warned you'll get a LOT of text on screen ....03:28
PaloDeQuesoAnyone here used wxwidgets with kdevelop. I get all kinds of build errors when compiling a simple program?03:28
SigmaXwell the only thing I've done is "ndiswrapper -i LSBCMNDS.inf" after downloading the driver.  So i imagine that must be the source of my troubles.03:28
calilasseiaHmm .. just looked at my config file ... MASSIVE set of aliases ,.....03:29
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Nirvana!blach03:30
ubotuNirvana: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:30
`NomadNirvana: ??    http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-desktop-x-windows/2651-configuring-default-theme.html03:33
fatejudgerdoes anyone have an ATI that's working on Dapper?03:33
fatejudger*ATI card03:33
`Nomadfatejudger: I set one up earlier for a friend over ssh from here03:34
`Nomadno issues, went smoothly03:34
PaloDeQuesoAnyone here used wxwidgets with kdevelop. I get all kinds of build errors when compiling a simple program?03:34
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eieiyowhen a new version of an application comes out...can you just recompile the new versions source code and it overwrites the old version. or do you first remove the older version of an application?03:38
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nikita!midi03:39
ubotu[midi]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo03:40
nikita!paw03:40
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nikita03:40
ranceim having the worlds worst time with something, I need a software program that prints invoices, and thats all it needs to do (it would be nice if it could remember the invoces in a database, but thats not even required.03:40
`NomadYou should beable to build somethign like that using OpenOffice03:41
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`NomadIt has an access like database now too :)03:41
`Nomadrance: Do you have a standard invoice already? (As a template)03:42
rancewell, now really, I have a windows program that I used to use for the invoice printing, but I finally made the jump and no longer dual boot, and that seems to be the only thing I cant do the way I want to03:42
rancesorry, NOT really03:42
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`Nomadso you want a software that will print invoices that will keep on changing in layout?03:43
rance`Nomad, Im sure I can, If I can find the time, I just bought a house, and have to pack my office and move, dont have time must bill clients and figure the rest out later03:44
`Nomadok03:44
zorba64apt-cache search invoice...gnotime maybe?03:44
dr_wurance- checked out Gnucash?03:44
`Nomadgnucash does invoicing?03:45
ranceyea, just wish it didnt depend on 1/3rd of the 17000 packages ubuntu can install03:45
rance(i know its an exaggeration, but you know what I mean)03:45
dr_wuaccording to their website, and not my personal experience, yes.03:46
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`Nomadlooking at OO.base now.  Interesting03:48
multimediacan anyone help me out with sound for ppc dapper? it worked until i updated last night03:49
`Nomadrance: what did you use on windows?03:49
`Nomadmaybe it can run under wine03:49
rance`Nomad, GnuCash will just about wash your dishes for you, it really is amazing stuff, but its a whale of a package, and it still depends on gtk, gtk2 support is a LONG way off03:49
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nikitai've just read the instruction "how-to-play-midi-files" and i03:50
nikitaam scared03:50
nikitais it that difficult?!03:50
Nirvananikita: as long as it is properly documented, everything is easy in ubuntu03:50
ranceI just used a cheap $20 dollar program I found a retail store several years ago, its called My Deluxe Invoices and Estimates, from My Software, and thats all it does, its great stuff03:50
dr_wurance- well, it sounds like doing something in OpenOffice is likely your best bet.03:51
nikitaNirvana: you are saing that i should follow that: 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo' and i'll be fine?03:51
ranceI did install xwine, but since I dont have a windows partition anymore, I couldnt get it to install03:51
rancenot sure why really03:52
dr_wurance- never used wine or other derivatives, so no help here..03:52
rancethere are some OO template web sites, maybe I can find a nice invoice template and just do that for awhile03:53
Nirvananikita: absolutely03:53
dr_wurance- i'd imagine you can. probably not too difficult either..03:54
nikitaNitvana: okey, will try that :) thanks03:54
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dr_wurance- you could probably come up with a Mail Merge type thing that gets data from the OO database program?03:55
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ranceif I really had the time to do it, I think Id just clone the features of the windows program into a python script that interacts with a database03:56
dr_wurance- or that way..03:56
ranceand then I could email pdf copies of the invoice as opposed to printing03:56
dr_wurance- yup03:56
calilasseiaI just tried opening Openoffice and creating a quick & dirty database ... and it won't let me create tables (sigh) ....03:56
`Nomadsame here03:56
`NomadI created it, but it didn't stick.. Then again I had turned off Java before for performance03:57
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ranceim not much in the way of writing a gui but I could drive out a menu driven cli app in about a week probably that did what all I needed it to do03:57
`Nomadrance ; sounds like you're on top of it. :)03:58
calilasseiaWhy does OpenOffice insist I create a form before doing anything else with a database?03:58
ranceof course I have a full time job, to that week is really nights and weekends03:58
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`Nomadcal: oh really?03:58
dr_wuwell, it seems that the OO database thing is right out then.. i can't do it either..03:58
calilasseiaYes - if I select the "create table2 wizard it just packs up and exits ...03:58
dr_wudid i just see someone say its a java thing?03:59
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calilasseiaApparently so Dr Wu ....03:59
dr_wui suppose it's because i have blackdown on and not sun.. who knows..04:00
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calilasseiaRight, I've just opened OpenOffice 2.0 Base ....04:01
calilasseiaWizard is up ....04:01
`Nomadargh. This is sad.. :(04:01
calilasseiaSelected "create new database" and then it moves on ...04:02
ranceif you open the OO base, its let me create a database add a table and some fields, then register it in open office04:02
dr_wuyeah.. i got the wizard bit.. but died shortly after creating the dbase file name.. sort of a non-feature if you ask me.. :)04:02
ranceI had to check the checkbox next to "after create database, add tables"04:02
calilasseiaNow it asks me if I want to register the database in OpenOffice.org ....04:02
ranceyou want to register the database to the rest of open office apps so you can do mail merges and the like04:03
calilasseiaIt also has options "open the database for editing" and "create tables using table wizard" ... I've just ticked both ,...04:03
rancenot sure why its an option not to really04:03
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calilasseiaNow click on finish, and it wants me to save the file ...04:03
calilasseiaAnd here we go again ... it opens up with "Forms" highlighted, and as my tasks, "Create Form Using Form Wizard" and suchlike ...04:04
calilasseiaI click on "tables" and it says "Connection to database could not be established" ...04:05
`Nomadwow, it really sucks!  table I saved is not even there when i go back04:05
dr_wuyeah.. i've not used that so i guess i should look into this some more.. maybe kexi will work better..04:05
dr_wubrb..04:05
calilasseiaI would say that this app is about as much use as a fishnet condom personally ....04:05
`Nomadlol04:06
calilasseiaOnly I was about to try and create a quick & dirty database and see if I could help out Rance ...04:06
rancewhich is about as much use as I ever found for access, so Id say that did pretty well04:06
calilasseiaOh I can get Access 97 to work in Windows no problem ...04:07
calilasseiaLater version for XP is a dog though ...04:07
ranceIve spent more points on experts-exchange on access than any other problem04:07
calilasseiaBut I can't even create a table in a new database in OpenOffice ...04:07
calilasseiaPretty bloody pointless that isn't it ???04:07
`Nomadyup04:07
`NomadI'm going to try the SUN java04:08
calilasseiaOh no - you mean OpenOffice needs java?04:08
calilasseiaEnough said ...04:08
ranceI did, but I really dont want to use a proprietary data layout, sooner put it in postgresql, or mysql, and use phpmyadmin or something04:08
rancethen write a set of python scripts04:08
`Nomadrance: that's the way to go04:09
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`Nomadan invoice layout should be easy to do from php to PDF04:09
rancecustomer maintenance, and invoice creation, and payment tracking04:09
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scorp007Hi whats the easiest way to share data between multiple kubuntu pcs?04:09
calilasseiaOh that's *marvellous* - I run Openoffice Base, but this time don't select "open for editing", just "create tables" and it packs up and dies ...04:10
ranceI dont do parts, just labor so my invoices are just a description of the project, and which installment they are paying on04:10
ranceand the balance owed04:10
calilasseiaWell that was 15 minutes of my life put to productive use ...04:10
rancescorp007: share data how? you mean like windows shared folders or what?04:11
calilasseiaThe irony being that if I was running Access in Windows, I'd have the database up and running by now ....04:11
scorp007rance: I mean so I can copy files from one pc to another.04:11
rancethansk cal, and `Nomad for the interest04:11
calilasseiaI tried Rance ... but OpenOffice let me down ...04:11
calilasseiaWon't be using that again in a hurry ...04:12
rancethats ok04:12
ranceyea, I see that04:12
calilasseiaRight, quick question, where does the iptables file live ???04:12
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rancewell scorp007, you can make one linux box an NFS server (network file system) and then you can mount the files system on the nfs host via an nfs client on the second machine and manipluate files just as if they were mounted locally04:13
scorp007rance: that will make sharing work from both ends?04:14
ranceyou could set up a rsync script that syncs to directories04:14
NirvanaOMG. Kubuntu = God -- It fixed itself!04:14
`Nomadoh oh.. If it starts replicating, disconnect the RJ-45!!  Kubuntu has become self-aware!04:15
rancewell, kindof , it would be like on a big windows server if you save the file into the local folder that is also part of the share, that file is now shared04:15
NirvanaI was pulling my hair out trying to get fonts to look proper and the shut down button to reappear, and then, BOOM, I restarted and it was fixed04:15
fatejudgerwtf happened to KWord in the KOffice Beta 1?04:16
rance<---- thinks it must be more than just slightly broken04:16
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`Nomadwoohoo!! Using Sun Java, the oo.base crashes much quicker.. No waiting! ;)04:18
Nirvanafatejudger: it is slightly broken, expect it to be out of the infirmary shoryly04:18
`Nomadwell, to all a goo dnight04:18
rancehey, if I start a consultants invoice history program, would you guys like to take a crack at it and see if it would work for some of what you guys do04:18
Nirvana`Nomad: that's amazing!04:18
`Nomadyup04:19
ranceg'nite04:19
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calilasseiaJava is a crock ....04:19
Nirvanarance: what is a consultants invoice history program?04:19
Nirvanawhat is a consultants invoice history program?04:19
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calilasseiaSo far I've tried three difference IDEs for Java, and NONE of them have worked ...04:20
Nirvanacome on guys, I'm too young to know what that means04:20
rancewell, most consultants dont sell parts, just labor, so there is no tax, I would do a simple invoice that describes the project someone is paying for, and print or send as pdf the invoices to the clients04:20
scorp007rance: would scp do what I need?04:21
ranceim not looking for a full accounting system, just a simple customer history app, with work and payment history via the invoices04:21
rancescorp007: it might04:21
Nirvanarance: mabye  OOo base? You need a database-ish program right?04:22
rancewell, I was thinking mysql, and python04:22
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Nirvanarance: wise choice, my uncle knows python, and his work is always smooth04:23
ranceOO Base seems kindof flaky for some people yet04:23
calilasseiaAh, KNEW there was something I needed to ask ...04:23
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calilasseiaThe dreaded MSN Messenger on Windows (spit) ... friend of mine wants to know how to connect to MSN on a Linux system if it's possible ....04:23
`Nomadquick check04:23
`Nomad!java04:23
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:23
`Nomadgaim rocks04:24
Nirvanacalilasseia: for java IDE check here04:24
`Nomadthough Kopete has video04:24
ranceI figured Id get it to a level of functionality I needed, then make a sourceforge project out of it and ask for developers to help out with other things like maybe a gtk2 based gui, or alternate database backends04:24
Nirvanacalilasseia: sorry, here: http://www.apl.jhu.edu/~hall/java/IDEs.html04:25
Nirvanacalilasseia: and for msn, use amsn04:25
Nirvanabetter than kopete, and better-looking than GAIM04:25
calilasseiaRight - amsn ..... I'm also looking at that IDE site you posted in Konqueror ...04:26
ranceI use kopete simply becuase it connects to almost all the chat systems04:26
dr_wui like kopete too..04:26
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Nirvanakopete ain't bad,but it aint amsn, if your just coming from Windows, and you use kopete, you feel weird, but in amsn, it seems to flow better04:27
Nirvana^^ I tested that theory on my neighbour who doesn't know who/what/where/when/why/how linux is04:28
dr_wubut then again, i don't use msn either so i really don't know if kopete will work with msn..04:28
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rancekopete does work with msn, I use it for that, but it is different, but then again, I am different, so different doesnt scare me04:28
dr_wuah.. ok.04:29
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`NomadI like Gaim, it talks to all, and I can use gaim-otr, which thrills me for soem reason.. Ahhh encryption..04:30
ranceI just used a stock kubuntu install for as long as I could till I could get used to the debian package layout04:30
calilasseiaOh no, it mentions NetBeans .... I **hate** NetBeans with a vengeance ....04:31
ranceafter all I was new to the "debianesqe" way of doing things while I was new to kubuntu at the same time.04:31
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Hobbseehi again calilasseia04:31
calilasseiaHello hobbsee ...04:31
Hobbseedid you get more help with the networking?04:32
rancewell, nite all04:32
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rancethanks for the insite and help04:33
dr_wunite. me too..04:33
Nirvanacoolest topic title ever: So NOOB that a NOOB would laugh at me (from kubuntuforums.net)04:33
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NirvanaLonnneeeely...I'm so lonnneeeely...I've got nobaaawwwddyy, bah I don't know the words of this song...04:35
calilasseiaGoing to try the networking tomorrow Hobbsee ... when I get access to the target machine ...04:35
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`Nomadguys, with Sun's java it works very well :)04:35
Hobbseecalilasseia: gotcha - there should be a networking troubleshooting guide on ubuntu wiki - probably worth findign it and printing it out04:36
Nirvanadoesn't Sun just brighten your day :)04:36
calilasseiaRight, will give that a shot too - thanks Hobbsee ...04:36
Hobbseeno problems04:36
calilasseiaWhat works Nomad?04:38
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`Nomadoo.base04:39
`Nomadfollowing the instructions given by !java04:39
calilasseiaAh .... was hoping you'd say OpenOffice Base finally worked :)04:40
calilasseiaGuess I couldn't get that lucky :)04:40
calilasseiaMy luck with such things is usually abysmal ....04:41
calilasseiaPut it this way, if Liz Hurley had triplets I'd be the one on the bottle ....04:41
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calilasseiaOh yes - one minor thing to clear up on my own installation ... I installed Skype recently .... every time I start up Kubuntu, Skype appears whether I want it to or not ...04:42
calilasseiaHow do I remove it from the startup list (if that's where it is) ...???04:43
nikitai was trying to tune timidity to play midis, now it says: "No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 50 - this instrument will not be heard" what am i supposed to do to make that thing work?04:43
nikita=)04:43
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Hobbseecalilasseia: check if there's a symlink in either Autostart folder04:44
Hobbseeone's ~/.kde/Autostart, forgotten where the other one is04:44
`Nomadcali: And also your session is saved from the last time.. That oen almost drove me nuts.. Well nuttier04:44
Nirvananikita: check timidity's website, it's not a Kubuntu problem, it looks like a program problem04:44
`Nomadit's /usr/share/Autostart I think04:45
calilasseiaAh ... of course - session details are saved ...04:45
`NomadCalil: OpenOffice Base DOES work :)04:45
nikitaNirvana: ok, i will, but i tried Kmid  as well and it gives and error as well =(04:45
calilasseiaOh it DOES Nomad????04:45
`NomadI hav ejust inserted fields in a report, now trying to see how to generate04:46
`NomadIf it works this well, rance shoudl be very happy with it, and I'll be impressed04:46
`Nomadyour report can be emailed, saved to PDF, etc..04:46
`Nomadmail merged04:46
calilasseiaSo how did you get it to accept table creation Nomad?04:47
`NomadSun Java04:48
`Nomadbut I had to overwrite the database I'd created with Blackdown's04:48
calilasseiaSo I go to sun.java.com, get Sun's java runtime and install it???04:49
`Nomad!java04:49
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:49
`Nomaddo you see the java stuff when I do !java ?04:50
calilasseiaEr, no ... all I see is your text with the "!" in it ...04:50
`NomadIt's near teh bottom of  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:50
`Nomadubotu tell calilasseia about java04:51
`Nomadhave fun, now I'm off to bed04:51
`Nomadbye all04:51
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Nirvananikita: I found a site in French http://lea-linux.org/pho/read/20/272757/27476504:52
calilasseiaGot it - it says install j2SE ....04:52
Nirvananikita: I can work on reading that04:52
calilasseiabut do NOT install one of the JDK or J2EE versions ....04:52
calilasseiaCould be fun ....04:52
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Lord_Athurhi all04:53
Nirvana!javadebs04:54
calilasseiaOh those autostart folders ... one's in usr/share, the other is in /home/yourusername/.kde ....04:55
calilasseiaCan't find any mention of Skype in either though ....04:55
NirvanaOMG, the lead guitarist of System Of A Down is crazy04:56
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eightiesk!skype04:56
ubotufrom memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/04:56
calilasseiaThat's where I got it from .... now how do I stop it auto running every time I start up Kubuntu?04:57
Nirvanacheck your autostart folders04:57
Nirvanatry "whereis skype"04:57
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calilasseiaAh, there's a usr/share/skype entry ....04:58
calilasseiaThere's also an executable copy in /usr/bin/X11 under the name usr/bin/X11/skype ... could that be auto running?05:02
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calilasseiaOK, it's 4 am here and I need my sleep :)05:06
calilasseiaI'll deal with more of this when I've had some shuteye:)05:06
calilasseiaBye everyone ....05:06
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LiteHeddedanybody got a newsvine invite?05:11
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frank23does the firefox update really help for memory leaks?05:17
Nirvanafrank23: it might vary from system to system05:19
frank23I hope it does. Firefox is really bad on memory for me05:19
KnowerrorsAnybody know how to use Krita, to change the pallet range?  I have an image with 65000 colors, need to change it to 25005:20
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saguro134can anyone help me please?05:28
saguro134I can't get X server to start.05:28
saguro134"no screens found" is the error05:28
Nirvanaedit xorg.conf05:28
saguro134and I've tried to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:28
Nirvanawhat does it say saguro134?05:28
xwolf-does wine have a GUI?05:28
saguro134what do I edit?05:28
saguro134(EE) No devices attached05:29
ilba7rsaguro134, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:29
Nirvanahe tried that ilba7r05:30
ilba7rin a command line login05:30
ilba7rsaguro134, try to login in safe mode05:30
saguro134done it.05:30
saguro134still isn't working.05:30
saguro134even when I go to like failsafe resolutions and freqa.05:30
saguro134done.05:30
saguro134oh.05:30
saguro134and I still can't get x05:30
saguro134but I'm at the prompt now05:30
ilba7rsaguro134, did you play with it. was that after installation or did it work before05:31
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juliuskonversasion is pretty nice05:32
juliusI think I like it more than xchat05:32
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saguro134no... this was from right after the install that it died.  I havn'05:32
saguro134t been in X once yet05:32
ilba7r!hardware05:33
ubotu[hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:33
saguro134anybody have any ideas?05:33
ilba7rcheck your hardware if it is supported saguro13405:33
Nirvana^^ read that05:33
ilba7rfollow ubotu link05:33
saguro134X800GT pci-x?05:33
saguro134it doesn't mention anything.05:34
saguro134F***05:34
ilba7rsaguro134, do you know if you are using the ati or fglrx drivers05:34
saguro134so i just partitioned my HDD for nothing?05:35
ilba7rand watch your lang you will not get support this way05:35
saguro134I forget what command to use to check...05:35
saguro134it's been like 2 years since I toyed w/ Linux05:35
ilba7rsaguro134, type /join #ubuntu might find someone who can help there too05:35
saguro134I'm pretty sure I used the standard ones w/ kubuntu 5.10 which should be the fglrx05:36
ilba7rlspci05:36
saguro134I've been there already.05:36
ilba7ris that what you are looking for05:36
saguro134nobody's answering.05:36
ilba7rfglrx is buggy use the standard ati05:36
ilba7rsaguro134, can you paste the contents of your xorg.conf file found under /etc/X11/ in the pastebin05:37
saguro134thanks.05:38
saguro134lsmod says an unrecognized  device05:39
saguro13455405:39
ilba7rsaguro134, perhaps the drive is not supported yet. I am afraid you will have to do some research on that05:40
ilba7ran easy way to check is get the latest MEPIS they have good hardware support and they are uptodate right now05:41
scorp007The settings under system settings->sharing->file sharing are all disabled... why is this?05:47
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eidoloneek.  why is 'amarok' held backon dapper?  if i do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade', i get 'following packages will be removed: amarok, amarok-gstreamer' ?05:51
Hobbseeeidolon: yes, but amarok-xine gets added05:52
Hobbseethey must have decided to switch away from gstreamer to xine05:53
eidolonright, but why remove amarok?05:53
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duklashey all05:54
duklasnewbie in need of help!:P05:55
duklasanyone?05:55
ilba7rduklas, just cast your question if someone know the answer he/she will help05:56
duklaso ok05:56
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duklasthing is i just installed kubuntu in a vaio vgn-s3xp and when the system loads sometimes the desktop becomes fuzzy05:57
duklasi dunno how to describe it best05:57
duklasit is still functional but i can't clearly see what's going on05:58
duklasmakes sense to anyone?05:58
ilba7r!fixtures05:58
ubotuilba7r: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:58
ilba7rmm seems you need to adjust the setting of your monitor05:58
ilba7ris that describe what you complain about05:58
ilba7rbut it should be always fuzzy not occasionaly !!!05:59
duklashmm06:00
duklasfe when i log on its ok06:00
duklasafter a while it messes up06:00
duklasbut it may not06:00
duklas:)06:00
duklassorry if i make not much sense fellas06:01
duklasjust struggling to get rid of the MS disease:(06:01
ilba7rduklas i am sorry i do not know what is wrong maybe another can help or you can check in ubuntu room06:01
ilba7rtype /join #ubuntu06:02
duklasthnx though for trying ilba7r06:02
ilba7rmy guess would be problems with mem06:02
ilba7rbut am not sure better check with others06:02
duklasthnx m806:05
stupendo44Problem: when I try to start Krita, it says "Cannot start Krita: no colorspaces available". I should note that I upgraded to KOffice 1.5 beta earlier today.06:06
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eightiesk!windowsmobile06:15
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk06:15
eightieskne1 here no what i can use for my pocket pc?06:16
eightiesk!pocketpc06:16
ubotueightiesk: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:16
eightiesk!ppc06:16
ubotu[ppc]  PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer than Intel.06:16
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eightiesk!smartphone06:16
ubotusomebody said smartphone was a guide to syncing smartphones can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8630206:16
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ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk06:18
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gatolashelf where are thou06:24
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fredcanada614if someone where are able to help me?06:26
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gatolasask an ye shall find out06:29
fredcanada614so, i did some updae , i install kdevelop, and now, kde show and error end is starting06:31
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fredcanada614if someone know how to fix that problem?06:34
ilba7rfredcanada614, if you can just state your problem more clearly. what type of error06:35
fredcanada614hum, a box "You need to seed this bug...."06:37
fredcanada614send*06:37
ilba7rfredcanada614, you will see that box a lot on kde06:37
fredcanada614i know, but i cant login06:37
ilba7rjust send it you just had a crash and the recovery is easy06:38
fredcanada614this is the first thing that i saw06:38
fredcanada614how to recovery?06:38
gatolasilba7r: ouch. does that happen in kde 3.5 a lot?06:38
fredcanada614no, 3.406:39
ilba7rgatolas, not the stuff on not being able to login. but packages do crash occasionaly06:39
ilba7rkbear is one of the most frequent crashers06:39
ilba7rfredcanada614, you need to give us more information in order we can help06:40
ilba7ryou can not boot into kde or you can not login with your username and account06:40
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cgentry72can someone tell me what i edit? when i put in a dvd - Totem wants to play the dvd which sucks.. how do i get it to load xime automatically?06:41
fredcanada614ok, y start my computer, i saw grub, the "opening animation of kubuntu", i saw X server starting, end just a moment after, i saw the kde background and the error box06:42
fredcanada614so, i dont saw the login box06:42
fredcanada614kde have problem before06:42
ilba7rfredcanada614, did you make an upgrade of kde?06:43
ilba7rkdevelop have nothing to do with your problem by the way06:43
fredcanada614no, just install koffice, kdevelop, and update kdevelop lib06:44
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ilba7rwould you like to upgrade kde might help your problem06:44
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fredcanada614yes, how to06:45
ilba7rfor frankly i do not know what cause this problem06:45
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ilba7rfredcanada614, ok when you login login in safe mode06:45
ilba7rthis will give you a terminal06:45
fredcanada614how to start in safe mode?06:45
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fredcanada614.. okok...06:45
ilba7rfredcanada614, on the login screen you select it06:46
layertooanyone in here using openldap to authenticate?06:46
nateis xfs a stable file system?06:46
fredcanada614that work, but kde a anyway a error06:46
ilba7rafter you login i will guide you to upgrade kde06:46
fredcanada614my kubuntu is installed on multi-boot...06:47
fredcanada6141 computer...06:47
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cgentry72can someone tell me what i edit? when i put in a dvd - Totem wants to play the dvd which sucks.. how do i get it to load xime automatically?06:47
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ilba7rlogin to the partition where you have kubuntu06:48
ilba7rcgentry72, you mean xine-ui06:48
natersSo, no one knows anything about xfs?06:48
cgentry72yes sorry06:48
cgentry72long day :)06:48
cgentry72i'm lookin in kde control module - file association and dont see anything there for dvdvideo says preferred app is none06:49
fredcanada614thanks for your help.. i will try some thing else...06:49
ilba7rfredcanada614, good luck06:50
gatolascgentry72: go browsing for multimeda>video>then choose something, like totem or or06:50
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T-WolfGah, Dapper has pissed me off.06:52
T-WolfI will wait until my Laptop HD gets here and then try it on that.06:52
zero0why doesn't trolltech use gcc to compile qt source but use msvc?06:53
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naterswhat size should your /boot partition be?06:58
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ilba7rnaters you do not need to create a seperate partition for it06:59
natersi know, but i hear its good practice06:59
ilba7rnaters, was an old practice. But good one mm do not really know07:00
ZhiChiangI encounter an issue on my Kubuntu 5.10 breezy. It took me 2 seconds to press the letter on the keyboard before the letter appears on the screen... been using the OS for months without problem.. just now,07:00
natersyeah, i generally follow good practices, mostly because i don't want to find out why they are good practices07:00
ZhiChiangdoes anybody encounter this issue before?07:01
ilba7rnaters it was old practice because old linux could not handle large partitions. Now you might under or over utilize your space having a seperate boot partition. But again I did not research it07:03
gammais there a good svg making app similar to inkscape for kde/qt?07:03
gammaZhiChiang: you've got slow keys on07:03
ZhiChianggamma: how to turn it off?07:04
gatolasbye07:04
gammaSystem settings/regions and accessibility/keyboard filters07:04
gammauncheck use slow keys07:04
ZhiChiangbeen using gimp... i might accedentally press the hot key for slow keys07:04
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gammai don't get the point of slowkeys to be honest :P07:05
ZhiChiangthanks... will try this07:05
ZhiChiangthis might be usefull for old people.. slow in typing hehehe just kidding... i dont get the point either07:06
ZhiChiangthanks07:06
ZhiChiang:)07:06
ZhiChianglaters07:06
gammanp :P07:06
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stupendo44gamma: what's wrong with running inkscape on kde?07:09
gammai was hoping they had a qt-inkscape :P07:09
Tm_Theh07:09
gammai wanted to avoid gtk apps if possible07:09
stupendo44not that I know of07:09
=== Tm_T uses inkscape and gimp <3
stupendo44so you don't use firefox?07:09
gammakarbon14 from koffice does svg..07:09
Tm_Tstupendo44: yuk, no!07:10
gammawhy would i when konqueror owns <#07:10
gammaerr <307:10
stupendo44not compared to firefox07:10
stupendo44I can't stand konqueror07:10
gammawhat does firefox have that konq doesnt?07:10
Tm_Tgamma: leak memory?07:10
stupendo44I don't know specifically07:10
stupendo44Tm_T: that must be it... :)07:10
Tm_Tbecause Fxis known to leak07:11
gammafirefox is slow in linux07:11
stupendo44does Konq have extensions?07:11
gammawindows it's blazing07:11
stupendo44can it use firefox ext?07:11
Tm_Tstupendo44: what kind of extensions?07:11
gammastupendo44: nopers, but it's got adblock and "plugins"07:11
stupendo44extensions like firefox does07:11
Tm_Tstupendo44: yes, but extension to do what07:11
stupendo44well, that's a major killer. I can do anything I want with firefox07:11
gammastupendo44: plugins = extensions there chief07:12
Tm_Tthat might be builtin to konqueror07:12
stupendo44I'll tell you what I have to give you an idea07:12
gammathe way i see it.. if i want to run thunderbird, gimp, inkscape, gaim and all that stuff then i might as well be using gnome07:14
gammakde and qt apps do everything i need them to do..07:14
stupendo44Change text links into clickable link, quick translate page, bugmenot built-in, quick dictionary search, greasemonkey, alternating stop-reload button, google images relinker, copy image to clipboard, tab mix plus for awesome tab control, targetalert puts icons next to links so I know what kind they are before I click, siteadvisor, How'd I get here07:15
stupendo44I bet you there's definitely some things in there that konq can't do.07:15
stupendo44I'm not trying to start a flame war, btw...07:15
stupendo44do you have a link to a konq plugins page?07:15
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gammano greasemonkey, or site advisor other than that konq can pretty much do all the other stuff07:16
stupendo44what is autocomplete in konq?07:16
gammatab mix plus (?) either07:16
gammawhat do you mean? what is it like?07:16
stupendo44so it will automatically add the www and .com after a url without having to type it07:17
stupendo44it's very convenient in any other browser. usually it's ctrl + enter07:17
gammadefault action for typing a word in while do locate: on that word07:18
stupendo44?07:18
stupendo44what kind of tab control does konq have? can I have it close a tab when I doubleclick?07:18
gammaif i type cheese in it'll do a local search of the word cheese07:18
stupendo44so you have to type the tld?07:19
gammastupendo44: why not try it and mess with options07:19
gammakonq has built in spell check which firefox doesn't07:19
stupendo44well, I thought you would know. I'm giving you some ideas of why I like firefox better.07:19
stupendo44firefox has a spell-check extension, same thing07:19
gammaadblock, translate, dictionary, browser identification, web shortcuts, bookmark tabs to folder, web page archival07:20
gammawebsite validator, text to speech07:20
gammait basically can do everything firefox does.. minus like sarge and the gmail checker07:21
stupendo44text to speech sounds interesting07:21
stupendo44oh, and konq isn't for windows, is it?07:22
gammanever tried it.. just saw it was there07:22
gammano07:22
gammastupendo44: it can do the acid2 test also07:22
gammafirefox isn't fully w3c complient07:22
stupendo44I don't see any tab control options07:22
stupendo44no browser is fully compliant07:23
gammaweb behhavior/tabbed browsing07:23
gammakonqueror is07:23
stupendo44but I will admit that konq is more compliant than ff07:23
gammahttp://www.webstandards.org/act/acid2/07:23
gammago there on konq-3.507:23
gammaand then take it on ff07:23
ilba7rgamma, just a question out for cur. does konq support saving sessions?07:24
stupendo44good one07:24
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stupendo44the new tab mix plus includes it, and I can hardly do without it07:24
gammailba7r: it's got view profiles you can save07:24
stupendo44crash recovery?07:24
gammaincludes what?07:24
stupendo44includes sessions and crash recovery07:25
gammadunno konq hasn't crashed on me yet07:25
ilba7rgamma, its saving whatever tabbed windows you had so that you can autoload them again07:25
stupendo44I don't see where you pointed me for tabbed browsing07:25
stupendo44nm07:25
ilba7rilba7r, i just loved this stuff in opera and was glad to see it in firefox07:25
gammaweb behavior?07:25
gammaare you on kde3.5?07:26
stupendo44I got it07:26
gammailba7r: yea you can save all tabs.. and you can bookmark all tabs to a folder07:26
stupendo44There's "Behavior" and "Web Behavior". bad design imho07:26
gammait's a file manager too...07:26
stupendo44well of course you can do that...07:26
ilba7rgamma, i know i used to run kde07:27
stupendo44I don't need a file manager, I have konq...07:27
ilba7rthanx for the info07:27
gammalol you asked me07:27
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stupendo44lol07:27
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damnhilwhat package has glib-config ?07:29
stupendo44well, the lack of the CTRL + ENTER (as well as shift and shift+ctrl in firefox) functionality seems pretty lacking for a supposedly good browser. Would really slow me down...07:29
gammastupendo44: did you look at configure shortcuts?07:29
Tm_Tplease don't, you might find something...07:30
gammalol07:30
gammakonq has it all, just it might not be in the "right" place ;)07:30
stupendo44don't see it07:30
gammasettings menu/configure shortcuts07:31
stupendo44I saw that07:31
stupendo44I don't see anything like the function that I'm talking about07:31
stupendo44and since you at first didn't know what I meant...07:31
stupendo44even if it did have it, not being set by default seems pretty strange07:31
damnhilhow do I download a package without installing them07:36
sampandamnhil  you can go to http://packages.ubuntu.com (iirc) and manually d/l packages07:36
gammadamnhil: apt-get -d programname07:37
sampangamma's way is probably easier ;x07:37
gammadunno where it stores the files once it gets them though :P07:37
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sampanlol07:38
sampanprobably some /var/apt/cache or somesuch07:38
sampan/var/cache/apt -- maybe?07:38
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gammaoh.. new to kubuntu.. i was a gentoo man :P07:42
sampannew to linux ... i was a windows man :( so i'm allowed to be clueless07:43
gammawhat made you switch?07:47
Tm_T /var/cache/apt/archives/07:48
sampantoo many security updates, silly having to "authenticate" to do so, too expensive to buy a legit copy of an OS simply because i built my pc instead of buying an OEM one, all the time it was taking to do virus scans/trojan scans/etc. etc. -- finally i'd just had enough07:49
Tm_Thehe07:49
sampan:D07:49
gammai switched to linux 4 years ago for that reason, and there wasn't even that much crap out there as there is no07:50
gammaw07:50
Tm_TI'm proud owner of legal copy of DOS 6.2207:50
gammaTm_T: how much did that cost you?07:50
gammai thought it was dumb to have to pay 60 bucks for a stupid useless app like a disk defragmenter or 60 bucks for cd burning software07:50
Tm_Tgamma: I got it with my laptop, 486sx2 22MHz and 8M ram, 20 07:51
gammahaha oh07:51
sampangamma, i guess i never really even thought there were viable alternatives (plus, i was a hardcore gamer for a couple years too)07:51
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Tm_Thaha07:51
gammaif i kept buying software in windows it'd cost me easily 1000 dollar07:51
gammas07:51
sampanlol07:51
gammayea that's most windows user's problems07:51
gammathey think that's the only solution07:51
sampanyep07:51
Tm_T"it can't be good because it's not widely used"07:52
gammaluckily apple is getting some popularity due to itunes and people are buying macs07:52
Tm_T"free can't be good because then noone would pay"07:52
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gammamy friend who is an idiot when it comes to computers bought a g5 the other day..07:52
sampanso the time it's taken to learn (the little i know about linux) i figure is just a useful investment of the time i used to spend on security crap07:52
gammaexactly07:52
gammaspend more time using your system rather than fixing it07:53
Tm_T"but I have to learn something, that's evil" ;(07:53
sampanyep ... learning something useful instead of repetitive task of putting out security fires07:53
gammabut learning is fun!07:53
Tm_Ttoo many people think that way07:53
gammaubuntu you don't even have to learn linux really07:54
Tm_Tgamma: that's what I think, but most of people don't07:54
gammano compiling software or kernels or manually configuring stuff07:54
sampangamma, that's true; sorta why after 8 months of ubuntu i still don't know as much as i could -- tis okay by me though, i do have other learning work i have to do each day07:55
sampanit's a nice medium -- if i want to i can delve in and learn the nuts and bolts, but i'm not forced to do so at every step07:56
gammayea exactly07:56
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sampanand as a bonus there are winning personalities that come with kubuntu -- like tm_t hobbsee and kkathman-zzzz ;)07:57
Tm_Trrrrhhh07:57
Hobbseehehe @ sampan07:57
sampanlol07:57
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Tm_T] ;=07:57
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Tm_Tkidding07:57
=== sampan threatens tm_t with remembering a certain something
sampan:X07:58
Tm_Tssshhhh07:58
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Tm_Tthat never happened!07:58
sampanwhat never happened?07:58
gammahttp://home.cfl.rr.com/gamma/images/ss-kde.png latest desktop here :D07:58
Tm_Twhat?07:58
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Tm_Thumm, what's my latest...07:59
Hobbseenice desktop07:59
sampangamma, what icon set is that?08:00
sampanawww hobbsee ... that wounds me!08:00
Hobbseehehe08:00
gammacrystal clear08:00
Hobbsee:P08:00
Hobbseeyeah, crystal clear does look nice08:00
gamma@ linuxcult.com08:00
sampannice08:00
Tm_Thttp://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_102.png08:00
gammai love it.. it's like a crystal osx looking theme08:00
Tm_Tthat for example08:00
gammaTm_T: you don't look like you're a big man for eye candy :P08:01
Tm_Tgamma: hey, that's pekwm08:01
sampanmy desktop is way too plain-jane to even show you guys08:02
gammai hate pekwm.. i used to use it a lot, but every cvs update of it they ended up changing the theming api08:02
gammaso i gave up08:02
Tm_Tgamma: heh, I don't really use it, just playing around with it08:02
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gammagood :D08:04
Tm_Thttp://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_099.png && http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_103.png08:04
gammahmm not bad08:05
gammai've got so many tray icons running it isn't even funny08:05
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gammaI've got 12 atm08:05
Tm_Tphuoh, I need someone to pay me so I can do all KDE/Kubuntu devel things I like to do08:06
Tm_Tthere's small possibility I get sponsor for summer08:07
gammawhy what do you do? make artwork?08:07
Tm_Tand try to code, debug...08:07
Tm_TI find my place between users and coders08:08
Tm_Tso, artwork and ui & all user experience related08:08
gammai help @ the forums and here when i can.. that's how i give back08:08
Tm_Theh08:09
Tm_TI never help ;(08:09
gammai'm also thinking of working on some kind of application that will sync all documents, contacts, bookmarks and calender events with a network08:09
Tm_Tjust yelling "utfgyn!"08:09
Tm_Tsampan: right?08:09
sampantm_t, that information i cannot divulge08:09
sampani've been threatened into silence08:10
Tm_T=)08:10
sampan;x08:10
gammahaha08:10
Tm_T7kick sampan stfuyn!08:10
Tm_Twhoopsie08:10
sampan:X08:10
sampanmy lips are sealed!08:10
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Tm_Tspeak, child08:11
sampanand give you an excuse to boot me?  no way, jose!08:12
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Tm_TI will!08:12
sampanoh my08:13
Tm_Terh, where's that big red button with "kick sampan" sticker on it08:14
sampan:(08:14
Tm_T;)08:14
sampandon't they issue that to all the kubuntu ops?08:14
sampani thought it was standard issue08:14
Tm_Tmeh meh08:14
Tm_Taye aye sir! back to work (there's only 1061 emails to read) ->08:15
sampanenjoy!08:15
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Hobbseehehe08:15
LiteHeddedwhere does superkaramba put installed themes?08:15
Hobbsee~/.superkaramba, perhaps?08:16
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LiteHeddeddon't see em in there08:16
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HobbseeLiteHedded: ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba/themes/08:18
Hobbseetry there08:18
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gammaBED ALL08:19
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LiteHeddedI'm clicking add to desktop but I don't see anything08:22
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Saguro134hey.. anyone know why I can't get my x800gt to work in kubuntu?  I know it's not supported, but even after I install the ati drivers, it fails..08:33
Saguro134can/has anyone installed them before?08:33
morrowdid you try the current ati drivers from their homepage?08:34
morrowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI has a guide for this08:35
Saguro134yeah..  maybe i didn't install then right?08:36
Saguro134I made the file executable (b/c it wasn't)08:36
Saguro134ran it as su,08:36
Saguro134then ran dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg, and chose the fglrx...08:36
Saguro134it does?  many thanks!08:36
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morrowi have no idea if the x800gt is already supported by ati. So if it fails again it could be to new :/08:37
Saguro134ugh.08:38
Saguro134dumb question..  I need to apt get the equiv. of linux-686, but I have the x86_6408:38
Saguro134tried that, but no go08:38
Saguro134"apgt-get install linux-x86_64'08:38
Saguro134couldn't find the package.08:38
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LiteHeddedi need vnc help08:41
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naliothSaguro134: search for "linux-image"08:43
Saguro134where?08:44
naliothSaguro134: and since you already are running amd64, you may have more trouble than you think08:44
naliothSaguro134: did you not mention "apt" ?08:44
Saguro134how come?08:44
morrowSaguro134: i think ati kernel module is not available for x86_6408:44
Saguro134yeah... why?08:44
Saguro13432-bit?08:44
naliothSaguro134: if you want more compability, you should have used the i386 version of kubuntu08:45
Saguro134they have one @ their site..08:45
Saguro134I downloaded it..08:45
Saguro134but I loose my 64-bit edge, no?08:46
naliothSaguro134: if you have amd64 for an 'edge' you trade the 'edge' for incompatibilities08:46
LiteHeddedwhere do you set up the sounds for kopete?08:47
Saguro134haha..  I havn't used linux in like two years, and I just bought this thing, so I partitioned up and thought I'd try Kubuntu-6408:48
naliothSaguro134: you lose the ability to easily use flash, w32codecs, etc08:49
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Saguro134is that why I can't see any flash pages?08:51
Saguro134f08:51
Saguro134wow.. what a wasted install.08:51
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Saguro134no way to view flash?08:54
Saguro134at all?08:54
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Saguro134a friend of mine uses gentoo and I'm sure he can.. no?08:55
Saguro134he's 64-bit.08:55
Saguro134brb08:55
frank23should I be able to find usb devices in /dev ?08:57
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Saguro134how do I see if I got the drivers working properly?08:58
Saguro134lsmod?08:58
naliothSaguro134: you can run anything you like in a 32bit chroot08:59
naliothSaguro134: but that is a PITA08:59
frank23Saguro134: its possible to have flash and w32codecs in a 64 bit install. just more complicated08:59
Saguro134pita?08:59
Saguro134can you direct me to a place where I might learn>?08:59
frank23I just use the 32 bit version of ubuntu and save hours of pain and misery09:00
Saguro134I'm a masochist?09:00
naliothpain in the arse09:00
Saguro134;p09:00
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Saguro134so yeah...how can I check to see if I actually got these drivers loaded and I'm not still using the vesa one?09:01
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naliothSaguro134: look at your /etc/xorg.conf09:06
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Saguro134I don't have one?!09:10
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nalioth!fixres09:13
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:13
naliothSaguro134: that wiki will tell you what to do09:13
Saguro134I did it all w/o error..  I just wanted to see?  ah well.09:15
Saguro134one last question... I've downloaded limewire and azerus...  do I still make install / install?09:15
naliothubotu: tell Saguro134 about limewire09:15
naliothubotu: tell Saguro134 about azureus09:15
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visik7howcan I file a bug for kde3.5.1 that isn't in breezy09:35
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owner!bugzilla09:35
ubotuUbuntu's bugzilla ( http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ) is now closed to new bugs.  The new bugtracker is at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs09:35
LiteHeddedwhy does my clock show the timezone?09:35
LiteHeddedit says new york under the clock09:35
owneryou can change that09:36
LiteHeddedhow?09:36
naliothLiteHedded: right clicking may show you options09:36
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snapyhello there, I would like to ask you what the arts daemon is useful for09:38
snapyI always work in my local PC and don't need to forward the sound from a distant machine09:39
ownerarts is used by some kde apps09:39
ownerbut can safely be disabled09:39
ownercan be09:39
snapyand Gnome applications seem to have a delay with the arts daemon09:39
snapyok, so if I disable arts, I can still fully use amarok and company?09:40
visik7how can I mail to maintainer of ubuntu package if Mainteiner is still the one of debian09:40
ownerif you are using gstreamer output yes snapy09:40
owneror xine09:40
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snapythanks owner, I'll have to check that of gstreamer later09:41
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jordani'm having trouble installing kde 3.5.1 on kubuntu 5.10... any help?... isn't there an easy way to upgrade using programs??09:42
snapyvisik7: I guess you can contact him as usual, just make it clear that you are using the ubuntu version of the package09:42
snapyof course it is up to him to react09:42
ownerjordan be specific09:43
ownerwhat is your issue09:43
visik7snapy: I don't think they'll be pleased of it09:43
snapyIf you have a specific bug you may propose him to test it and file it in the Debian BTS09:43
jordanim completely new to linux but i like it.... i have no idea how to start to upgrade the kde... i've only downloaded the konstruct for it and don't know where to go from there09:44
owner!kde3.509:44
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".09:44
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jordanok tks... where do i find the sources.list?09:45
Hobbsee /etc/apt/sources.list09:46
jordanok and last question... this is exactly what i put in the sources.list... "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main" ??09:47
ownery09:48
snapyjordan: yes, but don't forget to issue "apt-get update" as root to make the change effective09:48
naliothsnapy: there is no root here09:49
snapymalioth:  root or "sudo -s"09:49
jordanok tks guys09:49
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naliothsnapy: if you ask *buntu devs, they suggest sudo -i09:51
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naliothsnapy: and sudo works great for all my tasks09:51
snapymalioth:  ok, I must admit that I have just arrived to (k)ubuntu world from Debian09:51
snapyand I had used sudo before09:51
naliothubotu: tell snapy about root09:51
naliothsnapy: root comes disabled by design. enabling it breaks things09:52
snapymalioth:  I was not realising I was talking to a bot :)09:54
jordansnapy: i just opened up the sources.list and where do i put the deb... line?? at the very bottom?09:54
snapyI am not still too familiar with IRC09:54
snapyjordan: any place will do.  Put it at the button with a comment saying that the line applies for KDE5 in Breezy09:55
jordanok09:55
snapynalioth: so just to close up the root password issue...09:56
snapyI see that all documentation asks for sudo <blah blah> and I think I understand their point09:56
snapybut however I had once to set up remotely samba via the web admin swat09:57
snapyand the only way to do it was entering as root with a root password09:57
snapyso I don't know if some procedures related with remote server administration (different from desktop usage) would require the root password anyhow09:58
jordanawesome! it looks like everythings working, tks10:02
jordani got a little poll for anyone... which do you prefer, KDE or GNOME??10:03
vgeasking in Kubuntu channel? lol10:03
jordanlol yea... im sure there are people that have tried both here10:03
snapyjordan:  I use both10:04
snapyI like konqueror as file explorer (not as web client though)10:04
snapyand I prefer evolution as mail client and callendar10:04
snapyas web browser I use galeon10:04
jordansnapy: what's ur preference?... im finding that KDE is a little more friendly and still is very powerful10:04
jordanoh ok10:04
snapyI don't like konqueror mixing my file exploring windows with my web exploring sites.10:05
jordanyea true10:05
snapyand I use emacs as editor (not vi !!!!)10:05
snapyI am anyway in a KDE session also for being able to specify application colors10:06
snapyIn gnome they have all the theme stuff but there is no way to say I want my screen background grey (you need to create a whole theme for that)10:07
snapyexcept nautilus (that I still find it lacks many things) I prefer gtk applications10:07
jordanyea... gnome has a gdesklits for making widgets on ur desktop like a Mac... does KDE have a similar app?10:07
snapybut now I welcome the possibility of KDE 3.4 in Kubuntu to force GTK applications of a specific color10:08
snapyI don't know about the gdesklits10:08
jordanok10:08
jordanErrors were encountered while processing:10:09
jordan /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeartwork-theme-icon_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_all.deb10:09
jordanE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:09
jordanoh... i just got that message in the shell10:09
snapyjordan:  ok, don't panic :)10:09
jordanlol k10:09
snapyhow did you install KDE5 did you do an apt-get upgrade or just an apt-get install <lots of packages>=10:10
jordanthe upgrade using the deb... from the website10:10
snapy?10:10
snapyok, that's the correct way in my opinion.  But anyway we never escape to broken packages with unstable sources10:11
snapylook a little bit further up before the "Errors were encountered..." and see if you find the specific error10:12
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jordani think the specific error was the "kdeartwork-theme-icon" that i pasted because it had a colon after making it look like it was just listing them10:13
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jordanyea that looks like the only error to me... i think everything else got installed ok10:15
snapyI was looking for something else more specific.  But I guess you can reproduce it again with a "sudo apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-icon"10:15
jordanok i'll give that a try10:15
snapy(now I include the sudo so that other people don't protest :) )10:15
jordanlol10:15
jordanok i think i fixed it... but now do i have to do an sudo apt-get install for all the other packages because i think i just unpacked and prepared the other packages and didn't install them10:17
jordanand do i have to reboot for a KDE upgrade?10:18
snapyfor the apt-get install.  The difference with apt-get upgrade is that apt-get install allows the removal of conflicting packages while apt-get upgrade does not10:18
jordanoh... well shouldn't i have done an apt-get install for everything?10:19
snapyso maybe the error was caused for a file that belonged to an existing package that was not removed with apt-get upgrade (by default all files installed by packages belong to a single one)10:19
snapybut all that is just a guess10:19
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snapyLaunch "apt-get -f install" (with no package name) to continue the remaining half-installed packages if you still have some and then I suggest you continue with apt-get upgrade10:20
jordanoh ok... so do i have to reboot now before the KDE is upgraded to 3.5.1?10:20
snapyFor reboot I would wait to have all the packages installed, that is when "sudo apt-get upgrade" does not do any more actions10:21
jordanok i think they are all installed now... i've done what u said there... reboot then?10:22
snapyyep10:22
jordank tks10:22
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jordansnapy: i just rebooted and it didn't change.. i thinik i found the problem tho... i did sudo apt-get upgrade and it shows 101 packages that need to be upgraded but it didn't do it... how can i upgrade those 101 packages?10:30
snapyjust say yes after the sudo apt-get upgrade :)10:31
snapythe upgrade was interrupted with the kdeartwork problem. apt-get -f install only finishes the half-installed packages, but that does not mean that the upgrade is finished10:32
jordanoh... that easy lol k10:32
snapythe upgrade will be finished when apt-get upgrade does not show any more packages "needed to be upgraded"10:33
jordank10:33
snapyalso10:33
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abuam I the only one to have keyboard layout problems with new kde 3.5.1 ?10:34
snapyif you have some packages "left not to be uploaded", it means that these packages require removal of others and they should be installed manually with apt-get install10:34
snapyyou can put all of them in a single apt-get install command (but wait until the upgrade is finished)10:34
jordanok10:35
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jordanits still not working... it says the 101 packages have been kept back... is there an install app that i should use?:10:41
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ownerdo sudo apt-get -f install10:44
snapyjordan: (I was away, don't hesitate to hail me for this)10:45
owneri mean su, apt-get -f install10:45
snapyI think apt-get -f install would not install the kept back packages10:46
snapyfor them you need to do a normal install with package names (copy-paste them with your mouse)10:46
abuplease, am I the only one to have keyboard layout problems with new kde 3.5.1 ?10:47
snapyor if you are looking for an application I don't know if adept-installer should do it (I have never used it)10:47
fireporthi there10:47
snapyabu:  I suggest you are more concrete with your question.  What problems do you have?10:48
fireporthow do i get nvidia-display drivers work ?10:48
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jordanoh ok.. well i tried adept-installer but it kept giving me break problems10:49
abusnapy, keyboard is configured correctly in xorg.conf, but it's not correct under KDE. Trying to configure keyboard layout under kde control-center (System settings -> regional and accessibility -> keyboard layout) not a single keyoard model is available,10:50
abusnapy, so when I presse z, y appears or things like that10:50
vantenanyone knows where to find the updated koffice 1.5 beta packages that solve the problem with red and blue lines like described at http://www.valdyas.org/fading/index.cgi/index.comments???10:51
snapyabu:  I'm sorry but I don't have time to look for that.  Anyway you have just given some information with which somebody else may help you10:51
snapypersonally I installed (k)ubuntu with a spanish keyboard right from the installer and it seems to work with me.10:52
abusnapy, I understand. But, do you know where kde gets a list of keyboard layouts ?10:53
snapygood question10:53
abusnapy, in fact the layout is correct, but not the keyboard variant...10:53
snapywhich layout and which variant are you trying to get?10:54
abusnapy, swiss keyboard, french variant10:54
snapywhat about french keyboard, swiss variant, does it exist?10:54
abusnapy, that was how it was called before ubuntu 5.10, but anyway ... kde offers me no choice, not even american keyboard...10:55
vantenso no koffice 1.5 beta without ?enable-final ey?10:57
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snapyabu:  I have seen two places for the keyboard options.  In preferences->peripherals and preferences->regional settings.  Have you tried both?10:58
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snapyI personally have the preferences->keyboard blank and with preferences->regional_settings->keyboard layout I have many countries10:59
snapybut only one for Switzerland10:59
abusnapy, maybe a guidance problem ... how do you restore the original system-settings already ?10:59
abuoh kcontrol11:00
snapyI suggest you create a new pristine user and compare its settings with yours11:00
snapyyes there are two applications that seem to do the same thing:  system-settings and kcontrol11:00
abusnapy, good idea, do you know where those settings are kept ?11:00
snapybut we are used to it already in the GNU/Linux world11:01
abusure :)11:01
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snapyabu: look in .kde I guess11:02
snapyabu:  I have to leave now.  Good luck!!11:02
jordansnapy: what about trying a different mirror to download that packages from?... and if so, how do i delete the ones i've downloaded so far?11:03
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vantenjordan: look in /var/cache/apt/archives to delete already downloaded debs11:05
snapyjordan:  (as I said :) ) I have to leave now.  I don't think there should be a problem with the mirror (or at least that another one will improve the things)11:05
jordanok tks11:06
snapyto come back is not easy at all, I don't have any cue on that11:06
snapybut well as I said I am leaving, good luck anyway11:07
abusnapy, no keyboard list either for a new user, but keyboard is working as configured in xorg...11:07
abusnapy, thank you11:07
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jordanhey does anyone have any help about installing KDE 3.5.1 on kubuntu??... i've got 101 packages that won't upgrade11:08
abujordan, did you try dist-upgrade ?11:09
jordanyea i did apt-get dist-upgrade using root11:10
abujordan, oh, that's that I had to do ...11:10
vantenjordan: did you add the repository for 3.5.1?11:10
abusure11:10
jordanim new to linux.. not sure what repository is?... i added the "deb..." line into the sources.list tho11:12
jordanit looks like i've downloaded all the packages but they won't upgrade or install11:13
vantenthe deb line is what i meant11:13
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jordanok.. yea i've added that11:14
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WWGood Morning,  anyone here ?11:59
WWDoes anyone know of a mail clinet on kubuntu ?11:59
WWI just installed Sendmail,  and I want to test it from command line12:00
WWI would use the client called 'mail'   but it doesn't seem to have made it into kubuntu solution set.   :-(12:00
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WWGood Morning,12:02
Tm_TWW: morgen12:02
Tm_TWW: how about pine?12:02
WWI'll try it,  Danke12:02
Tm_Thttp://www.washington.edu/pine/12:03
WWTm_T > pine: comand ont found12:03
bimberianother is 'mutt'12:03
Tm_TWW: aye, cannot be provided with distro due licences12:03
WWthanks,  any idea if these are already installed ?12:03
vantenor use sendmail itself to send a mail12:03
vantenor telnet to your port 25 and be a mailclient yourself :)12:05
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WWMy aim is to install Bugzilla.  When I read the installation instructions it says 'Test the mail service, Bugzilla is dependant on an e-mail system to authenticate users'12:07
WWvanten> port 25 - tooo sneaky for words12:07
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[Vampis] Morning ppl :)12:08
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WWvanten> OK I'm in on port 25....12:10
WWso now I need to know the format of a simple mail message ,  is that right ?12:10
_brianhow do i turn off the menu panel at the top of the desktop?12:10
WWsoething like header....body...end_of_file ?12:11
WWbrian>  are you using Gnome or KDE ?12:11
WWbrian> if you have KDE,  try a right mouse click over the K-menu,  then select Panel Menu>Configure Panel12:13
WWDoes anyone know what the option 'Remove Kmenu Menu ' will do,  it sounds a little dangerous12:14
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HobbseeWW: well...it'll remove the kmenu from the kicker12:15
Hobbseebut you can always add it again, right click on kicker, add applet, select it, hit add12:15
fireportcan anybody tell me how to install nvidia drivers in (k)ubuntu ?12:17
Hobbsee!nvidia12:17
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:17
WWvanten> on port 25 - I found HELP is helpfull.  And it looks like there is a MAIL comand there12:18
WWOK I'm reading the other screen now......12:18
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sezaiHi. Is there anyone who has problems with keyboard switcher of KDE 3.5.1?12:23
sezaiI installed KDE 3.5.1 yesterday.12:23
sezaiAnd now the keyboard switcher tool (kxkb) and its configurator emnedded in kcontrol does not show strings.12:24
sezaimy .xsession-errors file contains the following two lines12:25
sezaikcmshell: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program12:26
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sezaiQComboBox::changeItem: (comboModel) Index 0 out of range12:26
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sezaiis there a known solution for that problem?12:26
fireportit seems that nvidia drivers work but game et won't start12:26
fireportSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem12:27
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_rootls12:27
fireportcan someone help me ?12:30
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fireportcan someone help me with nvidia drivers ?12:35
nalioth!nvidia12:36
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:36
fireporti do it already but it doesent work12:36
naliothfireport: ask in #ubuntu12:38
fireportthx12:38
baloCan anybody explain to me why kaffeine is always starting the install wizard (if I'm in gnome)?12:39
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PzGren|Hunnybunnanyone knows a good knowlegde-source for linux-beginners?12:40
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divansantanagoogle search kubuntu kudos faq12:45
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divansantanaKubuntu IRC channel is not busy because Kubuntu JUST WORKS!!! :D02:04
Tm_Theh02:04
Kamping_Kaiserlol02:05
divansantana:D02:05
Kamping_Kaiser:)02:06
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tristanhello02:12
tristanSomeone there?02:12
divansantanaYes?02:13
divansantanatristan: ?02:13
Tm_Tno, no one here02:13
tristantoo badd02:14
Kamping_Kaiserno one ever here - Kubuntu just works remember divansantana ;)02:14
tristanAny of you have both gnome and KDE?02:14
Tm_Ttristan: some of usyes02:14
Tm_Terrh, broken space02:15
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tristanUnder gnome, there is a graphical interface to connect to a remote server. I launch the graphical interface, chose Windows share, I enter the IP adress and then I can acces to the share of the computer02:16
tristanIs there the same GUI under KDE?02:16
Riddellremote:/02:16
Riddellsmb:/02:17
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Riddellsmb4k02:17
jjessefish:/02:17
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Riddellfish won't work with windows02:17
tristanI'd like a graphic interface not a console mode02:17
jjesseoh yeah doh, didn't read it correctly02:17
tristanAnyone sees what I am talking about for gnome? I want the same for KDE02:17
divansantanaKamping_Kaiser: Wow this channel is busy now! :D I like it like that!02:17
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Kamping_Kaiserlol. yep.02:18
divansantanatristan: If you really want you can install krusader and that has some graphical connection02:18
divansantanatristan: But its not necessary open konqueror and type remote:/blah.blah.blah.boo02:19
Tm_Tboo!02:20
Tm_Taye, konqueror is multitool++02:20
tristanWhen I tupe remote:/IPadress : no file or directory02:20
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divansantanatristan: try smb:/IP02:20
tristanAnd I don't understand why it is built-in under gnome and why not on KDE02:20
tristansame for smb:/02:21
Tm_Terr02:21
Tm_Tbreak ->02:21
Tm_TRiddell: if those pics still need some work, hit me02:21
divansantanatristan: It is built in. Open your system go to remote places, goto samba shares and thats network neighborhood with pretty icons!!02:21
Tm_T->02:21
tristandivansantana : yes I found. smb did not work in console but works fine with conqueror02:22
tristankonqueror sorry02:22
divansantanatristan: in konqueror you too can go to remote:/02:22
tristanyes but remote isn't working but smb works fine02:23
divansantanatristan: and then click on "add a network folder" - thats quite easy...02:23
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divansantanatristan: did u type remote:/ in location bar? If so perhaps you need to upgrade to fix some wierd bug. Never not worked for me...02:23
tristanI launched Konqueror, choose network share and after samba share and I can access computer of the network running under Windows02:24
morrowi hate to say that but this kmail thing still bugs alot with imap and shared foldern :(02:26
morrowfolders even02:26
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Red-Sox'ello02:28
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Red-Soxhow do you add repositories in kubuntu?02:28
Red-Soxwell, actually, I installed ubuntu, then put kubuntu-desktop on it.... but still, in kde02:29
divansantanamorrow: filed a bug? Hopefully they improve kmail some more...02:29
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_iNFUSiONhey02:29
divansantanaRed-Sox:kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:29
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Red-Soxdivansantana: okay, now what?02:30
divansantanaRed-Sox: what do you want to do?02:30
morrowdivansantana: most of them are already known02:30
Red-Soxdivansantana: mulitiverse02:30
Red-Soxdivansantana: can you pastebin me the correct sources.list?02:31
morrowbut you're right i should file some more bugs :)02:31
divansantanaadd multiverse after universe and uncomment or search ubuntuforums for latest sources.list02:31
divansantanamorrow: One thing I'm not keen on in KDE is that Kmail is the only native KDE mail program02:31
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_iNFUSiONI have a BIG BIG problem.. I don't have internet @ linux ... when I yesterday wanted to change eth0 from "dhcp" to "manual" ip address he didn't do anything.. and after a reboot the NICs were "disabled" or "deactivated" - and no way to enable ... if I click on "enable" it lasts for 2 seconds.. and switches back to disable .. any ideas..? (damn I just wanted to change local ip address...)02:32
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divansantanainfusion:what do you actually want to do?02:33
_iNFUSiONmy router gave me an IP .. and the portforwardings were to another ip .. so I tried to give me back the ip with the portforwardings02:33
Red-Soxdivansantana: I think I got it] 02:34
Red-Soxdivansantana: thank you02:34
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_iNFUSiON...I already tried to "disable" onboard LAN in bios ... and rebooted.. and restarted in the hope that kubuntu will work again with the Network interface Controller..02:37
alvaroHello02:37
_iNFUSiONno ideas how to fix this?02:37
alvaroPlease I need help with nvidia drivers, X don't work02:37
alvarowith Nvidia drivers02:37
Red-Soxhmm... now I need to be sure that it is enabled....02:37
Red-Soxhow do I check that?02:37
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alvaroPlease someone can help me with nvidia drivers02:41
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deusaiuto02:41
deusragazzi ho messo la kubuntu02:42
divansantanainfusion:Not quite sure what the prob is?02:42
divansantanaalvaro: Have you tried to install automatix to install nvidia?02:42
alvarohmm02:42
alvaronope02:42
alvarowhat's automatix??02:42
deuslancio la schel scrivo su e metto la password utente ma non mi fa diventare root02:42
deuscosa devo fare02:42
Nirvanaalvaro: automatix is a "newbie-friendly" script that installs the most popular add-ons and apps for you02:43
divansantanaubuntuforums search automatix and install it and tada!02:43
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Nirvanaalvaro: like Mp3 playback, movie playback, and firefox02:43
visik7!automatix02:43
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.02:43
alvarobut does it work for amd 64?02:43
Nirvana^just about to type that02:43
visik7alvaro: are u the author of amsn ?02:43
alvaroheheh02:44
dipnlik!easyubuntu02:44
alvaronope02:44
Nirvana!easyubuntu02:44
alvaroalvaro's messenger02:44
alvaro:P02:44
alvaromy name is alvaro02:44
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visik7alvaro (of amsn) should help kopete guys02:44
malix_Hi all I have a problem with quanta 3.5.1 that crash on dapper. With 3.5.0 worked for me02:45
dipnlikalvaro: use easyubuntu instead of automatix02:45
Nirvanaalvaro: type this: "!easyubuntu" and follow the instructions in the PM02:45
alvarohm02:45
alvaroI think I tried the two02:45
alvarobut some months ago02:45
Nirvanamalix_: bug report?02:45
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alvaroI installed linux yesterday02:45
alvaroand I followed a guide02:45
malix_I fill a bug report on lounchpad02:45
alvaroand the drivers seemed to work02:45
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alvarobut then I restart, and X doesn't start02:46
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Tm_Tvisik7: what?!02:46
Nirvanaalvaro: what drivers were you installing02:46
dipnlikdumb question: why "echo -e 'ynY\n'" is a security risk?02:46
Nirvanamalix0: bake cookies and hope for it to be fixed soon :P02:46
Nirvanadipnlik: I think it answers yes to questions02:46
alvaroNirvana:  the official ones02:47
Tm_Tdipnlik: it doesn't care if it's destroying whole system, it just says "yes, please do"02:47
divansantanawhat is easyubuntu???02:47
dipnlikTm_T: oh i see.02:47
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Nirvanaalvaro: I meant for which card, etc02:47
_iNFUSiONdivansantana: as I said - no connection .. no internet ... ...because the eth0 (and 1) are disabled.. and on "enabling" they switch back to disabled.. and STILL no connection to router.. nor to the internet..02:47
tuxiushi everyone02:47
tuxiusive got this major problem02:47
alvaronvidia Geforce 7800GTX02:47
Nirvanadivansanta: type !easyubuntu02:47
tuxiusI've lost user and root pw02:47
alvaroUsing this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 (method 2)02:47
visik7Tm_T: nothing just complain about msn support in kopete02:47
Tm_Tubotu: tell divansantana about easyubuntu02:47
dipnliktuxius: kill yourself? :P02:47
tuxiusdipnlik: I didnt understand thatone?02:48
Tm_Tvisik7: yeah, it could be better, but imho propietary protocol is not in our highest priority02:48
alvaro!easyubuntu02:48
ubotusomebody said easyubuntu was an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more.  It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesnt change any settings by default. https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu or #easyubuntu02:48
alvaroSo which one is better02:48
alvaroeasy ubuntu02:48
alvaroor automatix?02:48
Red-SoxYAYA02:48
Nirvanaalvaro: easyubuntu is safer, and probably better02:48
malix0Nirvana: I included the backtrace in the bug report, but there are missing symbol is it OK or I must recompile kdewebdev with --enable-debug=full?02:48
Red-SoxI did it, thank you gnomefreak and lite02:48
Tm_Talvaro: easyubuntu, it's far more secure02:48
tuxiussome "buddies" have been at my house and changed both root and username password, how do i change it   back?02:49
Red-Soxoh02:49
Red-Soxwrong channel :D02:49
visik7Tm_T: it's used a lot and would be usefull if it work (at least send and recive messages without errors)02:49
tuxiusin gentoo i just chrootet via livecd and entered passwd02:49
divansantanawhat is easyubuntu???02:49
alvaroTm_T:  Easy ubuntu 2.4 beta?02:49
Nirvanadivansanta: it installs stuff for the newbie user02:49
Tm_Tvisik7: it does send and receive mesasages just fine, as long as msn servers are fully functional (too many times they're not)02:49
alvarobut East Ubuntu works in AMD64??02:50
visik7Tm_T: with other client never lost messages02:50
visik7with kopete I lost messages both incoming and outcoming02:50
Tm_Tvisik7: with MSN:s own client, it does, just like with Kopete02:50
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visik7Tm_T: maybe it resend02:50
Tm_Tmaybe02:50
Nirvanamalix0: I'd do whatever you can do to get the symbols there. I think a package that goes along the lines of dbg or gdb or something can help you02:51
visik7Tm_T: btw amsn and gaim works much better on msn02:51
Nirvanaamsn = king ^^02:52
visik7Nirvana: yes but support only msn02:52
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tuxiussome "buddies" have been at my house and changed both root and username password, how do i change it   back?02:53
Tm_Tvisik7: might be02:53
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malix0Nirvana: how I can build package with debug enabled directly from apt-get -b source?02:53
Tm_Tvisik7: whole msn plugin in Kopete needs rewrite02:53
Nirvanamalix0: no idea, but you could try downloading the dbg symbols with sudo apt-cache search dbg > and then finding the program you want dbg symbols for02:54
visik7If I could able to write I'll do02:54
visik7but I'm not :(02:54
Nirvanamalix0: your problem is in quanta right?02:54
malix0Nirvana: yes quanta crashes during edit of big php file02:56
Nirvanamalix0: sudo apt-get install kdewebdev-dbg02:56
Nirvanamalix0: should be the debugging files02:56
malix0Nirvana: I got it02:57
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tuxiussome "buddies" have been at my house and changed both root and username password, how do i change it   back?02:58
Nirvanatuxius: if you know it, the do passwd xxxx02:58
Nirvanatuxius: if you don't you are screwed02:59
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tuxiusmust i reinstall the whole shiat?02:59
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Nirvanatuxius: yes, the root pass is the most important thing on the entire system. With it, you can do grave damage, and if you forget it, your screwed03:00
Nirvanatuxius: which is why it is disabled by default03:00
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_iNFUSiON...hmm... now maybe some time for me...? somebody experienced..? :)03:18
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_iNFUSiONNirvana :)03:18
Nirvanayay03:18
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Nirvana_infusion: what's you problem?03:19
Nirvanayour^03:19
_iNFUSiONI have a BIG BIG problem.. I don't have internet (nor a connection to my router) anymore @ linux ... when I yesterday wanted to change eth0 from "dhcp" to "manual" ip address he didn't do anything.. and after a reboot the NICs were "disabled" or "deactivated" - and no way to enable ... if I click on "enable" it lasts for 2 seconds.. and switches back to disable .. any ideas..? (damn I just wanted to change local ip address...)03:19
_iNFUSiONeth0/1 are simply "dead" .. and I am unable to enable them again03:19
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_iNFUSiON(it's onboard lan controller btw)03:20
Nirvanatry "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0  && ifconfig" and post the output at the kubuntu pastebin03:20
_iNFUSiONkubuntu pastebin?03:21
Nirvanayeah03:21
_iNFUSiONwhat is that03:21
Nirvanahttp://kubuntu.pastebin/com03:21
Nirvanahttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com ^^03:21
_iNFUSiON(the problem is that I don't have internet @ kubuntu ...03:21
Nirvanaoh yeah03:21
Nirvanaone sec03:21
_iNFUSiONokay :)03:21
Nirvanaumm, do you have floppies?03:23
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_iNFUSiONnope..03:23
_alvaroHello!03:23
_iNFUSiONI could burn a cd.. or write the output on a paper :D03:23
_alvaroPlease can someone help me with Kubuntu 6.10 AMD 6403:23
_iNFUSiONdo you think it's a large output?03:23
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Nirvana_infusion: it will be a long output, but do this and write it down on paper03:24
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_iNFUSiONokay03:24
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_iNFUSiONbe back in a few minutes..03:24
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Nirvanaalvaro: what do you need help with03:24
_iNFUSiONor wait.. is it easy to "mount" ext3 on windows2k? *G*03:25
_iNFUSiON"quick"03:25
Nirvanasure03:25
mcsteelshi, Im just installed kmldonkey on my kubuntu machine but it is asking for kmldonkey core.... where is that any1 know??03:25
Nirvanaoh wait03:25
Nirvanano03:25
_iNFUSiONthe other way is easy hehe..03:25
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NirvanaOn windows 2k, you need a program ext2fs03:25
_iNFUSiONbut I heard that there are drivers for ext3 on win2k03:25
dipnlik_iNFUSiON: Explore2fs can be used to read from ext3. don't know about writing03:26
visik7_iNFUSiON: it bsod the system use explore2fs is safer03:26
pa1is there a way to shut down KDE to start a new session with a dcop call from the command line?03:26
visik7no writing03:26
_iNFUSiONI don't need writing..03:26
_iNFUSiONjust read the "output"03:26
mcsteelshi, Im just installed kmldonkey on my kubuntu machine but it is asking for kmldonkey core.... where is that any1 know??03:26
visik7u need to use colinux if u want write support03:26
howcomesWhats it mean when im in Adept and i click to Install a package and under action it says BREAK (install)03:26
_iNFUSiONokay..03:27
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_iNFUSiONeasy.. it works .. thanks dudes!03:27
_iNFUSiON...booting linux now03:27
_iNFUSiONbbl03:27
Nirvanawait03:27
_iNFUSiONk03:27
Nirvanato mount your linux partition in windows, look at this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd03:27
_alvaroPlease someone has Kubuntu with AMD64 and Nvidia drivers installed?03:27
_alvaroI can't install them03:28
_iNFUSiONNirvana - it works..03:28
mcsteels_alvaro: i have03:28
_iNFUSiONexplorer2fs is easy ...03:28
_iNFUSiONit's showing my linux ext3 hdd03:28
_alvaromcsteels:  how did you install them?03:28
_alvaroI get errors03:28
_iNFUSiONand I tried to open a .conf.. worked..03:28
mcsteelsany1 know where the kmldonkey core is??03:28
_alvaroX doesn't start03:28
Nirvanaalvaro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=nvidia&titlesearch=Titles = nvidia drivers03:29
Nirvana_infusion: does that mean the internet works?03:29
mcsteels_alvaro: ^^ there:P03:29
Nirvana_infusion: ohh, nvm, you mean the extension program :P03:29
_iNFUSiONNirvana: that means I can "browse" linux hdd in windows03:29
_iNFUSiON:D03:29
Nirvanayes03:29
_iNFUSiONbrb.. :)03:29
mcsteelsany1 know anything bout kmldonkey??03:30
Nirvanaalvaro: you prolly want the top post, which is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:30
_alvaroNirvana:  I have nvidia drivers installed03:30
_alvaroI have even nvidia settings03:31
_alvarobut when I restart03:31
mcsteelssudo nvidia-glx enable or something03:31
_alvaroX doesn't start03:31
_alvaroand It gives me an error03:31
mcsteels_alvaro: wat u mean by not start??03:31
_alvaroX doesn't start03:32
_alvaroOnly console03:32
_alvaroUbuntu Login:03:32
mcsteelshave u tried startx03:32
Nirvanawat does startx tell you?03:32
_alvaroyep[15:32]  <_alvaro> Only console03:32
_alvaroyep03:32
_alvaroAn error03:32
_alvarolike I said03:32
_alvarobut I don't find it03:32
_alvaroin the logs03:32
mcsteelshow bout /etc/init.d/kdm start03:32
_alvarosomething about drivers version03:32
_alvarokernel using a version an X another version03:33
_alvaroI don't know03:33
mcsteelshow bout /etc/init.d/kdm stop??03:33
_alvarosame03:33
_alvarobut I restored xorg.conf03:33
_alvaroand now its working03:33
_alvarobut without drivers03:33
mcsteelshave u logged in as root or sudo??03:33
_alvaroyes03:33
mcsteelsok...03:33
_alvaronow I'm going to install them03:33
mcsteelsnano /etc/X11.xorg.conf03:33
_alvarohow did you do that?03:33
Nirvanatype it03:33
_alvaroX11/03:34
_alvaroyes03:34
_alvarowhat?03:34
mcsteelschange nvidia or nv to vesa03:34
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_alvaroDriver "nv"03:34
mcsteelschange it to nvidia and see what happens03:34
mcsteels"nvidia"03:34
_alvarobut I don't have nvidia drivers now03:35
_alvaroI removed the kernel03:35
_alvaroand I downloaded amd64-k803:35
_alvaroI was using -generic03:35
mcsteelsthey are built into kubuntu i think03:35
_alvaroI will try to install the drivers know03:35
_alvarowith the installed in nvidia.com03:35
mcsteelsany1 know anything bout kmldonkey??03:35
_alvaroI have to stop X03:35
_alvaroBye!03:36
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StukaI was feeling adventurous, and did a dist-upgrade to dapper, and now it appears that KDE is broken somehow03:38
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Stukathe best information I've found is by trying to log in using the 'failsafe' session, which pops up an error that dcopserver isn't running - is this a known issue?03:39
`Nomad!skype03:39
ubotusomebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/03:39
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howcomesWhats it mean when im in Adept and i click to Install a package and under action it says BREAK (install)03:39
tuxiusanyone here who knows what to type to start kde:)?03:40
Nirvanatuxius: try startx03:40
_iNFUSiONNirvana03:40
tuxiusi tried03:40
_iNFUSiONI paste you @ query03:40
Stukatuxius: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart might work for you03:40
_iNFUSiONor wait.. only two lines03:40
tuxiusmkey, thanks03:41
NirvanaI didn't receive a query...03:41
_iNFUSiON/etc/network/interfaces:21: too few parameters for iface line03:41
_iNFUSiONifdown: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"03:41
_iNFUSiONthat's the output03:41
tuxiusdont i have to reconfigure /etc/X11/... etc?03:41
_iNFUSiONI can show you the content of "interfaces" as well if you need :)03:41
Stukatuxius: that depends03:41
NirvanaOK, now, post your /etc/network/interfaces file at http://kubuntu.pastebin.com03:41
tuxiusStuka: depends on what?03:41
_iNFUSiONokay03:41
Nirvanatuxius: depends on if your having problems or not03:42
Nirvanatuxius: no problems = no reconfigure03:42
tuxiusNirvana: I see03:42
Stuka^^what he said03:42
Nirvanatuxius: visual problems = reconfigure03:42
Stukawas your xserver working before?03:42
_iNFUSiONhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/53535103:42
Nirvanahowcomes: it means your either missing a dependancy, or something's up. What package is it?03:42
_iNFUSiONNirvana: iface eth1 inet <--- eth0 inet?03:43
dipnlik!bugreport03:43
ubotudipnlik: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:43
Stuka_iNFUSiON: do you have 2 NICs in that box?03:43
_iNFUSiONyes03:43
_iNFUSiON2 onboard03:43
Stukaok...you need more information in your eth1 stanza03:44
_iNFUSiONhmm that means?03:44
Stukait needs to look a lot more like the eth0 part03:44
Stuka(with proper settings for the LAN it's on, of course)03:44
howcomesNirvanda - monodevelop-0.9-0pre203:44
_iNFUSiONhmm.. well.. I haven't used eth1 so far..03:45
howcomes(monodevelop)03:45
Stukaso comment the line out - or fill it in, but don't use it03:45
_iNFUSiONeth0 is my primary NIC - connected to my router.. eth1 is only connected to my xbox03:45
Stukaok - so what's the IP scheme there? (or is there one yet?)03:46
Stukadoes an Xbox have a way to set a static IP?03:46
_iNFUSiONyes.. but eth1 .. we don't have to care about right now03:46
Stukaok - then just comment that line out03:46
Stukathat's why you're getting that error03:46
dipnlikhas anyone filed a bug report about kubuntu icons for the laptop icons in settings:/System/ ?03:46
_iNFUSiONlet's try?03:47
howcomesit would seem im more then likely missing a dependancy03:47
_iNFUSiONNirvana: are you agreeing? :)03:47
Nirvanahmm..03:47
_iNFUSiONyou must know.. it takes very long switching between OS *G*03:47
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Stukaoh, I know - though I'm relatively fluent in Linux and that Redmond OS03:48
_iNFUSiONokay03:48
Nirvanayes, I agree, comment it out.03:48
_iNFUSiONokay..03:48
Nirvanahowcomes: one sec, haven't forgot about it03:49
howcomes;)03:49
Nirvanahowcomes: one sec, haven't forgot about you ^^03:49
howcomesim in no hurry03:49
_iNFUSiONhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/535361 <-- Stuka like this?03:49
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Stuka_iNFUSiON: yup03:51
_iNFUSiONokay, thank's03:52
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Stukano problem03:52
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_iNFUSiONmaybe in a few minutes back @ linux :)03:52
^rob^hello03:52
Nirvanahowcomes: it's in the universe, so you obviously have extra repos enabled.. try this "sudo apt-get install -s monodevelop" and see what the error is03:52
^rob^anyone use kde 3.5.1 ?03:52
Nirvana_infusion: if you enable hibernation, you prolly won't have to wait thru the long boot time03:52
Stuka^rob^: I'm trying, but having issues with kdmgreet apparently03:52
_iNFUSiONhmm, okay, thanks for the hint Nirvana03:52
Nirvana^rob^: I do03:52
^rob^Stuka: using deb packages or you compile it?03:53
Nirvana^rob^: at first I had many problems, but I finally got it up03:53
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^rob^Nirvana: what problems?03:53
Nirvana^rob^: well, it was more like a problem with me03:53
howcomesI downloaded monodevelop_0.9-0pre2_all.deb if that helps....03:53
^rob^Nirvana: 3.5 has lots of bugs - that's why i ask03:53
howcomeswas going to sudo dpkg -i monodevelop_0.9-0pre2_all.deb , but ill try your command first03:54
howcomesk03:54
^rob^quanta keeps asking me that someone else edit externaly the file, chmod - crashes etc...03:54
howcomesThe following packages have unmet dependancies03:54
Nirvana^rob^: what I did was add it and apt-get upgrade, and some files didn't download, so I opened adept updater, and it wanted to remove all pkgs, so I did that, because I had nothing better to do, then I just apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop and all was fine03:55
^rob^Nirvana: can you chmod a file or a dir - without konquerror err??03:55
howcomeshttp://pastebin.com/53536503:55
^rob^Nirvana: can you pls do that test for me?03:55
Nirvana^rob^: yes, right click, permissions, and edit them03:55
Nirvanait also worked for me in 3.5 though...03:56
^rob^Nirvana: after you press apply or ok button - my 3.5 gives an err - but it does change the perms.. do you have errs after that or not?03:56
Nirvananope03:57
Nirvanadidn't on 3.5.0 either though, so maybe I'm not very helpful03:57
Nirvanahowcomes: try sudo apt-get install -f03:57
Stuka^rob^: I felt brave and did a dist-upgrade to Dapper03:57
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Stukabroke kde apparently03:57
howcomessudo apt-get install -f monodevelop ?03:57
Nirvana:)03:57
Nirvanahowcomes: no, just the way I wrote it03:58
Stukakdmgreet: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program03:58
^rob^Nirvana: and another problem - that's anoying - is that i can't add custom collor in color selection (quanta or kcoloredit)03:58
Stuka^^that's the only error I can see that appears fatal03:58
howcomes0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:58
Nirvanahmm03:58
^rob^Stuka: what kde does dapper has?03:58
^rob^Stuka: si stable enough?03:58
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Stukaoh, my bad...it's 3.5.0-103:59
Nirvanahowcomes: try the sudo dpkg -i mono*.deb, and if it doesn't work, then sudo apt-get -f install03:59
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cgentry72can someone help me out? when loading a dvd, totem and konquor keep opening, how do i get xine to open instead04:00
cgentry72so kaffeine opens04:00
vgecheck kcontrol and konqueror file assosiations04:01
howcomes-f install returns04:01
howcomes0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:01
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Nirvanahowcomes: which one is to be removed?04:03
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cgentry72i dont get it... theres nothing pointing to kaffeine in the media section at all04:03
antoinehello04:03
howcomesmonodevelop04:03
Nirvanahowcomes: if your having a lot of trouble, it is probably easier to sudo apt-get remove monodevelop --purge && sudo apt-get install monodevelop04:04
antoinedo you know a french irc channel about kubuntu?04:04
vgecgentry72: sry, but then it's over my nolige :)04:04
^rob^cgentry72: kaffeine is not quite the most stable movie player!04:04
Nirvanaantoine: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat04:04
cgentry72yea, that's why i dont want it to open kaffeine04:04
^rob^cgentry72: sudo dpkg -P kaffeine04:04
antoineok thanks04:04
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cgentry72i'd prefer it to open xine instead04:05
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cgentry72there are dependency issues cant remove it04:05
cgentry72isn't there a way to tell kubuntu to play dvd's with xine and where is it cause i cant locate it04:05
Nirvanacgentry72: open the file assosciations KDE control module04:06
cgentry72there04:06
^rob^cgentry72: what kde do you have?04:06
cgentry72kubuntu latest04:06
^rob^KDE version?04:06
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cgentry724 something i think? sorry04:07
Nirvanacgentry72: go to settings:/ click KDE components and then file associations. When in there click media click the media you want to edit, and edit its application preference order04:07
cgentry725.10 actually04:07
cgentry72well under dvdvideo it says none04:07
^rob^cgentry72: ok - 1 sec - i have to look at kpannel - brb04:08
cgentry72scd0 is the device used04:08
cgentry72an external usb dvd04:08
^rob^cgentry72: kcontrol->perhiperals storage-media04:09
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^rob^cgentry72: All Mime Types - select - do nothing04:09
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cgentry72i dont have a storage-media on mine :(04:10
^rob^cgentry72: that's not kde 3.5 then04:10
cgentry72kubuntu 5.1004:10
DaSkreechSo..  what repos have 3.5.1?04:11
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NirvanaDaSkreech: check kubuntu.org front page04:11
Nirvanacgentry72; storage media is under peripherals in kcontrol04:11
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sorush20guys I can't install these icons any help ?04:12
sorush20http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3158504:12
^rob^cgentry72: 5.10 is the kubuntu version - not the kde version04:12
^rob^5.10 comes with kde 3.4.x (5 i guess)04:12
_acehi all04:12
_acequestion about kernel04:13
_aceanyone!?04:13
^rob^DaSkreech: http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35104:13
_aceI need to complie my 'own' kernel becaue of Win4Lin04:13
sorush20what is the question?04:13
Nirvana_ace: just ask04:13
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_aceit can only use 2.6.1104:13
^rob^DaSkreech: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main04:14
_acebecasue of SMP support missing in higher versions of the win4lin patches04:14
_acenow I am lookng trough docs like wiki's and the like04:14
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_aceI find this:04:14
sorush20there is a how to here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064 _ace04:14
^rob^_ace: and you have problems how to compile the kernel?04:14
_aceapt-get source linux-source-2.6.1104:14
Nirvana_ace: also, there is a wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29%7C%28compile%2904:14
_aceno the problem is not how to compile (not yet)04:15
_acethe problem is hot to get the kernel04:15
DaSkreech^rob^: Of course :)04:15
howcomesNirvana - after running that --purge and install it still didnt work L:(04:15
_acehot=how04:15
_acethe apt-get source line doenst work04:15
_aceit says can't find package04:15
_acein symaptec04:15
_aceserach for linux-source gives only 2.6.12 package04:16
_aceyes, i got deb-src in apt/sources.list04:16
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_aceand anyway what's the diffenrec between linux-source and kernel-source in synaptec ?04:16
_aceoh yes, I run breezy kubuntu 5.104:16
^rob^_ace: http://kernel.org04:17
_aceI think going to kernel org doesn't give me a kernel04:17
_acewith all the ubuntu patches04:17
^rob^it does04:17
_aceireally ?04:17
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^rob^go there - fetch your kernel and put it in /usr/src04:17
^rob^or wherever you want to compile it04:17
^rob^and make your kernel.04:18
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_acebut what about the ubuntu patches ?04:18
_acethey are certainly NOT in kernel.org are they ?04:18
Nirvanahowcomes: no idea sorry, try downloading all the packages individually, from http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/monodevelop and installing one-by-one04:18
^rob^_ace: don't forget to go to wiki - read all you neet - how to compile kernel in debian.04:18
fit4lfefor those who system is running slow and you have an nvivdia chipset highly recommend the nforce drivers04:19
fit4lfemy 64 system is so fast now its great04:19
Nirvana_ace: here is a wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto that rob was referring to, I think04:19
_aceBeen there done that04:19
_acefor instance04:19
_acein the wiki04:19
_acego to04:19
_aceKernelBuildpackageHowto04:19
_aceit promises to give me a kernel JUST LIKE THE UBUNTU PACKAGE04:20
_aceit's what I want04:20
_aceinstructions04:20
_aceif you follow them exactly04:20
_acethey may work but you're stuck with a  2.6.8 kernel04:20
_acenow04:20
_acehow to get a 2.6.11 kernel04:20
_acefor those that always say RTFM I say04:20
_aceRTFM !04:20
^rob^_ace - read above - go to kernel.org - get your 2.6.11 kernel04:20
^rob^_ace: and do the same thing that in viki say04:21
_acerob I went to kernel.org but can not find the ubuntu-specific kernels04:21
_acewhat the wiki says CAN NOT BE DONE ROB04:21
_aceunless you ar elooking at a different page04:21
^rob^_ace: don't be lame - linux is universal - ubuntu is a LINUX distribution04:21
_aceokay rob04:21
_acethank you for your help04:21
_acegoodbye04:22
^rob^_ace: cheers04:22
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_acethat does *not* want to call me lame04:22
_aceand *does* understand the question04:23
^rob^_ace: skip the "get the source"04:23
_aceand *does have* an answer ?04:23
_acerob, are you going to be serious now with me ?04:23
^rob^_ace: this is the answer! - LINUX KERNEL IS THE SAME 2.6.11 on REDHAT or SLACKWARE is the same as UBUNTU04:23
_aceokay rob04:24
^rob^linux 2.6.11 is the linux - ubuntu is the name of distro04:24
^rob^;)04:24
_acewaht about the package 'debian-patches04:24
_acethen04:24
_acewhat about that04:24
^rob^skip it04:24
_acerob04:24
_aceI DO NOT WANT TO SKIP IT, okay ?04:24
_acethat was the question04:24
^rob^i'll come on private04:24
howcomesW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508804:24
_aceHow to build a kernel EXACTLY as ubuntu/kubuntu04:24
_acebut the wiki instructions are only for 2.6.804:25
_aceand I can not find the same packaegs for 2.6.1104:25
_acewell rob if you can help me with *that* question04:25
Stuka_ace: what packages are listed other than linux-source?04:25
tuxiusI cant startx04:25
_acestuka: in synaptec ?04:25
^rob^_ace: 1 sec - i'll give you a doc. on debian how to compile kernels - ok?04:25
tuxiusi get, fatal server error: caught signal 4. Server aborting04:25
howcomesUpgrading to KDE 3.5.1 - heres hoping i dont break linux04:26
Stukano, in the Wiki instructions04:26
Stukabecause basically the only difference is the source package names04:26
pointwoodanyone know whether the new version of konversation is available for kubuntu somewhere?04:26
_aceStuka: I was following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto04:26
tuxiuswhy do i get error when i type "startx"04:26
_acein the instructions04:27
^rob^_ace: http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/04:27
_acethe first 3 line that start with a $ DO work04:27
_acethe 4th line is about 2.6.804:27
_aceI want 2.6.1104:27
_acehow'd I do that ???04:27
^rob^_ace: that's a debian howto - see it's the same thing - except he gets the kernel from kernel.org04:27
Stukaso change the package name to 2.6.1104:27
_aceStuka: dont' work04:27
fit4lfewhy does amarok take so long to come up on the desktop ?04:28
fit4lfeseems like it takes forever04:28
Stuka sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.8.1 <---that line? with 2.6.11?04:28
tuxiuswhy do i get error when i type "startx"04:28
_aceStuka: E: Unable to find a source package for linux-source-2.6.1104:28
fit4lfe!amarok04:28
ubotuI heard amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/04:28
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Stukaok...do: sudo apt-cache search ^linux-source04:28
^rob^_ace: because that package is upgraded to 2.6.1204:28
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_acethere is no line 'build-dep' in my wiki04:28
pointwood!konversation04:28
ubotuKonversation is an IRC client for KDE. See http://konversation.org04:28
_aceStuka: i did04:29
Stukaand?04:29
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howcomesI think upgrading to KDE 3.5.1 is totally going to break my DRI Enabled//3D Acceleration on my ATi card04:29
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_aceIt only turns up with 2.6.12 version04:29
Stukawhat was listed?04:29
_acelike rob syas04:29
pointwoodthat's not the correct link for konversation04:29
_acethe packaghe looks like it's upgraded04:29
_acewhere's the old package04:29
_ace?04:29
Stukaok - so looks like there's not an Ubuntu package for 2.6.11 - will .12 not work for you?04:29
cgentry72i've been trying to get xine to open instead of kaffeine and cant seem to get anywhere.. can someone help04:29
_acestuka: linux-source-2.6.1204:29
Stukais there a specific reason you *must* have .11?04:29
cgentry72i have kubuntu 5.1004:29
_acestuka: yes, win4lin04:30
^rob^howcomes: kde is a win manager - has nothing to do with your card  - X11 has04:30
_ace2.6.12 and .13 versions of win4lin patches have no SMP support04:30
tuxiuswhy do i get error when i type "startx"04:30
^rob^_ace: why don't you get the source from kernel.org?04:30
^rob^tuxius: what's the err?04:30
_acerob, i am asking a different question.04:30
^rob^_ace: i was asking you that!04:31
_aceI might be from the FBI and have reasons unknown to you that I do not want to disclose04:31
Stuka_ace: then you'll probably have to get the sources the hard way04:31
DaSkreechOr you might not :)04:31
_aceI f you can help me with the question I have04:31
^rob^_ace: FBI does not use lame linux!04:31
^rob^lol04:31
_acei would be much obliged04:31
cgentry72someone said to go to kcontrol and under peripherals there was removable drives but i dont have that04:31
_aceShow what you know, rob04:31
^rob^_ace: have you heared about WhiteHouse OS?04:31
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_aceStuka: i have no problem with getting the kernel the hard way04:31
shantanuhow do I execute a setup.sh file?04:32
_acerob: no :-)04:32
DaSkreechshantanu: in the folder with the setup.sh type ./setup.sh04:32
tuxiuswhy do i get error when i type "startx"04:32
tuxiusi get, fatal server error: caught signal 4. Server aborting04:32
Nirvana`foodingdoes anyone know how to pre-heat an over to 350deg.F04:32
Nirvana`fooding?04:32
_aceStuka: I just wanted it nice and cleanly patched exaclty like kubuntu does04:32
Nirvana`foodingis it the temp ^ and temp v buttons?04:32
shantanuDaSkreech, ./setup.sh: line 19: ./setup.data/installer/installer: No such file or directory04:32
tuxiusi get, fatal server error: caught signal 4. Server aborting04:33
_acethis seems04:33
^rob^_ace: read pls the link i give you - you-ll see that that one make a deb package at the end.04:33
_aceimpossible then.04:33
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Nirvana`foodingI'd preferably not want to compile this over from source (lol, but seriously, I wanna make cookies...)04:33
Nirvana`foodingoven from source^04:33
DaSkreechshantanu: Whats this for?04:33
Stuka_ace: then you'll have to just get the kernel source directly, and apply patches to it from there04:33
_aceRob: it's not about MAKING a deb package out of it04:34
_aceit's about .config and patches being the same as in kubuntu04:34
_aceman04:34
_acethis it tyring04:34
^rob^Stuka: let him - he does not want to read any docu we gived!04:34
_acesomeone giving you the wrong kind off help04:34
shantanuDaSkreech, TeamSpeak04:34
DaSkreechah04:34
_aceover and over again,04:34
_acebut I appreciate the efforts...!04:35
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shantanuDaSkreech, I extracted the contents into a folder04:35
_aceStuka: I *read* all this docs04:35
DaSkreechRight04:35
_aceLOOOONG ago04:35
shantanuDaSkreech, now i cant seem to install it or run it04:35
cgentry72i cant understand why this is so complicated, associating a dvd with xine instead of kaffiene04:35
Nirvana`fooding_ace: post in ubuntuforums.org, they're smart04:35
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DaSkreechand there is a setup.data folder?04:36
_aceit's just a different question I do have04:36
Nirvana`foodingbtw: I found out how to pre-heat the over, but how do I bake the cookies?04:36
_acenot your standard 'how to compile a kernel' question04:36
_acenow anyway04:36
Nirvana`foodingoven^^04:36
_acethanks again04:36
shantanuDaSkreech, No04:36
howcomesSuccessfully updated to KDE 3.5.104:36
_acebut I am really around for some time now04:36
Stuka_ace: your issue is that you're trying to do something that's not really designed into the system04:36
_acejust that I am not a kernel expert neither am I a .deb and package axpert04:36
DaSkreechshantanu: Ah That might be important :)04:36
Stukakernel patches are against a specific version of the source04:37
shantanuDaSkreech, let me check it could be hidden04:37
_aceStuka: it *is* possible to do this with a 2.6.12 kernel04:37
_acejust read the wiki04:37
_aceI sent tyou the url04:37
^rob^howcomes: how much time did the upgr. take?04:37
_aceor don't you want to read the docs i sent you ?04:37
shantanuDaSkreech, Nope04:37
StukaI'd read it before you put up the link04:37
_aceor anyway it *was* possible with 2.6.804:37
howcomes3 minutes04:37
_aceand it's on the official wiki!!04:37
howcomesif that04:37
^rob^howcomes: gee04:37
DaSkreechIs there a README or an INSTALL file?04:38
howcomesim posting a howto: to the forums now04:38
^rob^howcomes: i'm at 67% and come with 22.6 kB/s04:38
_aceanyway, thanks again04:38
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shantanuDaSkreech, looking for it04:39
Nirvana`foodingcould someone please help? I have cookies that are going to spoil... I need to know how to bake cookies in the oven... do I just put the timer on?04:40
Nirvana`foodingcrap, pre-heating is done! what do I do?04:40
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eightiesk!kaffeine04:40
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk04:40
cgentry72i've been trying to get xine to open instead of kaffeine and cant seem to get anywhere.. can someone help04:40
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grxmrxis that normal that there are no icons in system:/media in konqueror even if I have some devices mounted (eg. cdrom)? I can access to cd from /media/cdrom0 or shell but...04:41
Nirvana`foodingStucka: I got it04:42
Nirvana`foodingI had to push time and time it for 11 minx, then start04:42
Nirvana`foodingI'm out of breath...04:42
howcomeshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12481204:42
Stukaheh04:42
Nirvana`foodingalright, gotta check on the cookies04:42
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robno more angels04:43
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eightieskwhats the comand for apt remove?04:43
Nirvana`bakingwait, why does it smell?04:44
robi lost my wing - i was bad! -04:44
tuxiusdoesnt anybody know or?04:44
Nirvana`bakingapt-get remove eightiesk04:44
robeightiesk: sudo dpkg -P package04:44
cgentry72i've been trying to get xine to open instead of kaffeine and cant seem to get anywhere.. can someone help04:44
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Nirvana`bakingwhy does it smell like burning when I put the cookies in the oven? is this supposed to happen04:45
Nirvana`baking?04:45
robNirvana`baking: LOL04:46
Nirvana`bakingSHEIT! I didn't grease the pan....aww crap, they're gonna be burned at the bottom now....04:46
Nirvana`bakingwill anything burn (such as the house, or the stove..etc) if I don't grease the pan.. it's my first time baking...04:47
cgentry72i think nirvana is banked04:47
cgentry72baked04:47
robNirvana`baking: nope - just your cookyes04:47
Nirvana`bakingOK...04:48
Nirvana`bakinggood04:48
Nirvana`bakingwell, not good, but better the cookies than the house...04:48
roblol04:48
StukaNirvana`baking: you CAN'T be serious....04:49
Nirvana`baking*catches breath from running from stove to computer and back 500000 times*04:49
Nirvana`bakingstucka: I'm 14 > I've never baked before04:49
howcomesEat the cookie doe raw :D04:49
Nirvana`bakingI can use the thing on top though, the circle things, to make pasta04:49
Nirvana`bakingI did howcomes04:49
Stukaoh, man...you've got a looooooong way to go04:49
Nirvana`bakingnot all of it though, maybe 1/804:49
Nirvana`bakingstucka: what do you mean?04:50
eightieskwhy does my kaffine freeze?04:50
Nirvana`bakingif learning to bake was as easy as switching to kubuntu, I should be an iron chef by now04:50
cgentry72cause kaffiene sucks04:50
robNirvana`baking: it means you-re young - no problem if you burn the cookies  ;)04:50
robcgentry72: uninstall kaffeine04:51
eightieskwhen i try to open anything i get resource not found or busy.04:51
rob!kooka04:51
uboturob: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:51
cgentry72i need the dependencies for xine to play dvds04:51
StukaNirvana`baking: basically what he said - but I would recommend learning fast - it REALLY helps to be able to cook at least one or 2 'real' dishes04:51
eightieskthen whats a all in one media player?04:51
Stuka(chicks dig guys who can cook too)04:51
robeightiesk: no clue - i use mplayer for video and amarok for audio04:52
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tuxiuslogin as root after clean kubuntu install dosent work04:52
cgentry72mplayer doesnt allow me to play videos in full screen04:52
tuxiusi get Login incorrect04:52
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robdoes kaffeine have subtitle04:53
tuxiusand i promisse i got no password04:53
tuxiusi guarantee i got no04:53
robcgentry72: use -vo help04:53
robcgentry72: mplayer -vo help - i use gl204:53
robmplayer -vo gl2 movie04:53
Nirvana`bakingstucka: I can cook pasta, and that's like a million different dishes :P because there's many kinds, and my sauce tastes better than my moms :P04:53
robpress f when the movie start04:54
rob;)04:54
cgentry72and how do i make it default for dvd's instead of kaffiene04:54
robmplayer dvd://04:54
robbut i donno why your kaffeine starts when you insert a dvd04:54
cgentry72me neither and it's really irritating me04:55
robcgentry72: or if you want to have dvd control use ogle04:55
robcgentry72: dvd menu - subtitle choose from dvd menu - etc...04:55
cgentry72i get that from xine too04:55
robkde 3.5.1 - 9604:56
robi mean 96^04:56
rob%04:56
robdamn04:56
rob:)04:56
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Nirvana`bakingcgentry72: try settings:/ and click KDE Components, then File Associations. then click media, and DVD_mount, and change it from there04:57
evilhi got what is probably going to be the most retarded question heard on here04:57
jsgotangcoits because kaffeine is the default media player for all things k :)04:57
evilhcan you remote desktop a windows computer from kubuntu?04:57
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jsgotangcoyes04:57
Nirvana`bakingevilh: it's probably an easier question than how to bake cookies04:57
evilhbaking cookies is rather easy04:58
Nirvana`bakingevilh: krfb is your app04:58
evilhyou can really do it!!04:58
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cgentry72i dont have a dvd mount04:58
evilhWORD!!!04:58
Nirvana`bakingevilh: not for me, first time, and I forgot to grease the pan04:58
evilhlol!!!04:58
Nirvana`bakingcgentry72: what does it have then?04:58
cgentry72I have DVD Video but nothing is set to run or open04:59
Nirvana`bakingbrb gotta get cookies and cool them...04:59
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Nirvana`bakingcgentry72: do a ksnapshot of the screen and post it to imageshack.us and link it here04:59
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cgentry72one sec04:59
sweet_katehello: how can i lock my session by shell? what is the command?05:00
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vytautashi05:00
sweet_katehi05:00
vytautasi can't burn files with some special characters05:00
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vytautask3b's gives some uninformative error05:01
sweet_katehello: how can i lock my  X session by shell? what is the command?i have fluxbox05:01
vytautasand gnomebaker gives this05:01
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asranieldoes anyone know if there is any chance that we get open source 3d drivers in dapper for ATI cards? not as default, but a easy way to install them. i know that they are only alpha05:01
Stukasweet_kate: from lists.debian.org -  Alan Ezust schrieb: Is there a command one can run from the command line which does the same thing as "lock screen" from the k menu?05:01
StukaIf you're running the command line as the same user running kde use:dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock05:01
vytautasUTF-8 character encoding detected.... blah blah blah05:01
vytautashas anyone had similar problems?05:02
cgentry72http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot11gm.png05:02
sweet_kateStuka: i have fluxbox05:02
Stukaah - I assumed KDE (due to the channel)05:02
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cgentry72nirvana did u get the snapshot05:07
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kernel_i386hey, Nirvana`baking + Stuka <-- thanks a lot .. works05:09
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kernel_i386<-- the one with the NIC problem :)05:09
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Stukakernel_i386: cool - yw05:12
Phantom^^Hi if was looking for a good inkjet printer that mainly printed text and could do photos, but I wanted very good compatibility and ease of setting up for kubuntu. Which printer should I buy ?05:12
StukaPhantom^^: HP has always been fairly Linux-friendly in my experience05:12
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Nirvanacgentry72: looking at it now05:13
cgentry72k05:13
Nirvanacgentry72: maybe add an entry for dvd_mount and tell it what to do?05:13
howcomesis the UT: GOTY Demo multiplayer ?05:14
cgentry72not sure what i need to tell it to do05:14
cgentry72or how05:14
cgentry72just add xine to list?05:14
Nirvanacgentry72: you click add (the one on the left) and name it dvd_mount. Then add xine to its list05:14
cgentry72ok, i'll try that one second05:15
Nirvanait's weird that it's not there. I've never used a DVD in this comp, and it's still got that entry...heck I don't even know if it read's DVD's...lol05:15
Nirvanastucka: HP is linux-friendly because of HP-UX, HP's own unix OS05:15
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Nirvanathat said, my cookies were good, and I didn't have to grease the pan because ... actually I don't know why, my mom said it didn't matter05:16
cgentry72still does it05:16
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NirvanaOK, it's opening kaffeine, right? maybe look in the kaff. preferences and see if there is an option to turn it off?05:17
StukaNirvana: not really - HP is Linux-friendly because HP's always been about selling printers05:17
cgentry72ok05:17
Stukasince Linux and HP-UX have different printing issues05:17
Nirvanaahh05:18
robbrb05:19
robor05:19
robsee you tomorow05:19
rob;)05:19
robif kde works05:19
roblol05:19
cgentry72still doing it05:19
robbyee05:19
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evilhrepeat of stupid question. is there another program that allows you to remote control a Windows XP machine from a kubuntu one?05:19
cgentry72i cant get of kaffiene cause xine relies on kaffiene somehow05:19
cgentry72cant get rid of kaffeine cause one of the dependencies is kaffeine-xine which for some reason allows me to play dvds05:21
StukaI thought kaffeine-xine depended on xine, not the other way around05:21
cgentry72i don't know but xine wouldn't play dvd's until i installed it05:22
evilhkaffeine is the GUI for xine in kubuntu from what i gathered from the xine website05:22
Nirvanaevilh: remote desktop?05:22
evilhyeah05:22
evilhKrDc only supports VNC servers05:23
vgeevilh: tryed xvncviewer?05:23
vgeworked straight from the box for me05:23
evilhvge: no didnt try that05:23
cgentry72plus it wants to get rid of kubuntu-desktop05:23
Stukaevilh: rdesktop05:24
Stukahaven't used it on KDE, but it worked perfectly in a Gnome environment05:24
evilhthats from the konsole right. sudo access05:25
evilh?05:25
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Stukaevilh: no, it's a graphical program that works a lot like the Windows Remote Desktop program05:25
evilhstuka: is it in the repositories?05:26
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grxmrxhow can I fix packages installation (apt-get install kde) problem: The following packages have unmet dependencies: Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed   Depends: kde-develop3 but it is not going to be installed  - in order to install kde 3.5.1?05:26
Stukait's in one of 'em - I've got universe and multiverse set up - but it's in there somewhere (I checked before I mentioned it)05:26
evilhi found it05:27
evilhits in the multiverse repository05:27
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Nirvanagrxmrx: to install 3.5.1, you apt-get upgrade, not install kde, unless you don't have KDE installed, in which case you apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:27
StukaI wasn't sure - I like having ALL the options05:27
Nirvanastucka: same here, but when I need to know, I look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com05:27
grooelhi can someone help me? I just installed kde 3.5.1 and I'm not able to select any keyboard layout05:28
StukaNirvana: meh, I just enable all the repositories and apt-cache search for what I want05:28
grxmrxNirvana: ok, but after:sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  I have similar message, but about krita package05:28
grxmrxNirvana: Depends: krita but it is not going to be installed05:29
Nirvanastucka: same :)05:29
Nirvanagrxmrx: apt-get install -f05:29
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grxmrxNirvana: it doesn't help, still the same message...05:31
Nirvanagrxmrx: try dist-upgrade (which people have told me you should be using for this kind of thing) or try with the --fix-missing tag05:33
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kernel_i386hehe do you get money for helping people btw? :)05:34
Nirvanaspeaking of dist-upgrade: I was told by many that dist-upgrade is too be used when converting distro's, like Breezy > Dapper, and upgrade is to upgrade a package on the current distro...but I guess I learned wrong05:34
Nirvanakerneli386: unless you work for Mandriva, Suse, and a few other companies with "paid support" no05:34
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Nirvanakernel_i386: unless you work for Mandriva, Suse, and a few other companies with "paid support" no05:34
Stukakernel_i386: not online - but I do get paid occasionally in meatspace for work I've done on PCs05:34
kernel_i386... I just think that this you are very helpful ... very kind of you guys05:35
Nirvanakernel_i386: and I get a 4 day weekend, starting today (thursday) because my exams are done :P05:35
kernel_i386I see hehe05:36
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kernel_i386soo.. passed it with a good feeling? or already got results05:36
Nirvanagrxmrx: did you try it? what was the outcome?05:36
Nirvanakernel_i386: I know I did good on all of them, and come third week of February, I'll be able to support that with a report card05:37
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Nirvanakernel_i386: ^that would be well, I did well on all of them... pity that I take academic english :P05:38
_acerob, stuka ?05:38
grxmrxNirvana: I've tried dist-upgrade yestarday and it seems that distribution is upgraded but not all packages are upgraded, so now when i type: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade the outcome is that everything is ok but it isn't05:39
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eightiesk!grub05:39
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:39
Stukayes _ace?05:40
Nirvanagrxmrx: how about with --fix missing?05:40
Nirvanaapt-get upgrade --fix-missing05:41
Nirvanaor apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --fix-missing05:41
grxmrxNirvana: the same message05:41
Nirvanaor even apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:42
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Nirvanaremoving kubuntu-desktop isn't harmful btw, it is a meta-package...05:42
_acehi stuka05:42
grxmrxthere is no kubuntu-desktop package installed..., so I can't upgrade it05:43
_acei  found http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/linux-source-2.6.11/05:43
_acethere's a lot of packages there05:43
Nirvanagrxmrx: so install kubuntu-desktop, and you'll have 3.5.1.05:43
_acebut from downloading 2.6.12 I think you only need05:43
Nirvanaf-ing mute button... I was trying for ten minutes to troubleshoot why sound wouldn't come out....05:43
_acelinux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2_all.deb05:43
_aceanyway05:43
_aceif you unpack that05:44
grxmrxNirvana: I can't install it :]  if I type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then I have the same message about krita package05:44
Nirvanaohh. watch and be amazed05:44
Nirvanawait 2 minutes, gotta read man apt-get05:44
evilhyay! i got remote desktop to work!! though i can't perform the actions i was hoping to control05:44
_acethen you'lf fin in /usr/src/linux-version/debian/congifs05:44
_aceyou will find the .config fot 686-smp and others05:45
Nirvanaevilh: if it's about working with files/folders, use Samba05:45
Stukacool05:45
_aceand it's alos patched for debian/kubuntu05:45
_aceit's a pity though that you cant' access the package from within synaptec05:45
_acenow it's still a puzzle05:45
evilhnirvana: i was hoping to be able to control winamp on my windows computer to play files while im on this machine05:45
_acewhich packages you need from the pool05:45
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evilhthink i didnt know how remote desktop worked05:46
_aceJust thought I might enlighten you and Rob for future reference :-)05:46
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evilhso i feel special for getting it to work and stupid cause i cant do what i wanted05:46
Nirvanagrxmrx: try this: sudo apt-get clean --list-cleanup  && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing05:47
tuxiusFUCK05:47
tuxiusi get login incorrect05:47
_acelinux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2.diff.gz05:47
_acelinux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2.dsc05:47
_acelinux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11.orig.tar.gz05:47
_aceStuka: might be you need three packages:05:47
tuxiusAND I HAVE NO ROOT PW05:47
_aceand not the _all package05:47
Nirvanatuxius: in what?05:47
_aceI am about to find that out...05:47
tuxiusroto pw05:47
tuxiusi cant login as root after i reinstall kunbuntu05:47
tuxiusits the third time05:47
evilh*slams head into desk*05:48
Nirvana!sudo05:48
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:48
Nirvana^^05:48
Nirvanaevilh: is it dual booted?05:48
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Nirvanaevilh: or is it another computer?05:49
evilhno i got kubuntu installed on my laptop and windows is on my main gaming machine05:49
Nirvanaevilh: so, another computer?05:49
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evilhi washoping to control winamp through remote desktop to play music through my stereo instead of the shitty laptop speakers05:49
grxmrxNirvana: ok, I have run this, but still I have the same message about krita when I tried to install kubuntu-desktop,05:50
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Nirvanagrxmrx: try this: sudo apt-get clean --list-cleanup  && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -f05:50
muzzleSo first I've enabled everything in manage rep. How I have to make some catalog update or something? How?05:51
Nirvanainstall Samba, and configure your shares, make sure you enable a home/office network in windows, and make your music folder shared. Connect (or Konnect, if you wil ;)) to the windows machine, and play the music05:51
Nirvanamuzzle: click fetch updates in adept, or sudo apt-get update in the terminal05:51
Nirvanaevilh: install Samba, and configure your shares, make sure you enable a home/office network in windows, and make your music folder shared. Connect (or Konnect, if you wil ;)) to the windows machine, and play the music05:51
Stuka_ace: is the orig.tar.gz a full source tree?05:51
Nirvanagrxmrx: or try this: sudo apt-get clean --list-cleanup  && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f05:52
grxmrxNirvana: still the same outcome...05:52
evilhnirvana: i can see my windows computer and browse my "file cabinet" on that machine. i dont want to play the music on the laptop i want to control the music play back on the windows machine because it is hooked up to my stereo05:52
muzzleNirvana: Don't I have to update something first?05:53
Nirvanafetch updates = apt-get update it updates your package lists05:54
Nirvanamuzzle^^05:54
muzzleok05:55
_aceStuka: yes it's the kernel.org stuff05:55
Nirvanaevilh: oh, I see, I don't have a windows computer to test on, sorry I can't help05:55
_aceyou need the .diff. package to make a debian kernel from the 'vanilla' kernel.05:55
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Nirvanagrxmrx: I really don't know then, try a forum post on ubuntuforums.org05:55
grxmrxNirvana: ok05:55
Nirvanawhat is the command for locating a file throughout the whole computer? find just searches the directory, and whereis is for programs05:56
Nirvana?05:56
evilhthats a good one havent tried it yet05:57
Nirvana!commands05:57
ubotusomebody said commands was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/05:57
evilhnirvana: thats ok thanks for all your help. wasnt for you i wouldnt have half the functionality i have now05:57
Nirvana:D05:58
Stuka_ace: so why wouldn't you need just that package?05:59
StukaNirvana: find / -name foo06:00
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_linuxhi06:04
_linuxevery one here ?06:05
evilhdefine everyone06:05
_linuxahh okaz :)06:05
evilh: D06:05
_linuxi have new download  kubuntu06:05
evilhnew to linux?06:05
Nirvana_linux: and you burnt it to a CD as an ISO image?06:06
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linux_i will ask06:07
linux_how can i deinstall packages06:07
linux_ore install new packages06:07
linux_:)06:07
evilhgo to adept, find the packages and right click06:07
evilhselect your action06:07
linux_adept06:08
linux_shows06:08
linux_Error  KDE  SU06:08
linux_SU returned with an error06:08
evilhhmmm06:08
evilhim new to this so i cant help you there06:08
linux_okay06:08
linux_i make a restart06:08
evilhcome back here once you reboot06:08
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linux_okaz06:09
linux_bg06:09
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StukaI'm out y'all..have fun06:11
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Nirvanaback...06:11
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evilhyour cookies come out all right? lol06:12
_aceStuka: the orig package is a plain vanilla kernel06:13
_aceif you want the debian/ubuntu patches (like i do) you need the 'diff' package too.06:14
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Nirvanaevilh: very tasty cookies :)06:14
evilhlol06:14
_aceStuka: the all package doesn't cut the cake.06:18
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cgentry72alright xine is trying to load the dvd but i think there should be a parameter setting instead of just xine06:21
cgentry72srry, for those who were here earlier, when i put in a dvd06:22
Nirvanaman xine for the param06:22
cgentry72got rid of kaffeine and xine still plays06:22
Nirvanacgentry72: man xine = manual full of parameters...get your reading glasses ready :D06:24
cgentry72alright06:24
_aceStuka: here the definitive list of what you need:06:24
_acelinux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2_all.deb06:25
_acelinux-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2_all.deb06:25
_acelinux-tree-2.6.11_2.6.11-0.2_all.deb06:25
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_acenothing elske!06:25
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trappistoh, linux-tree.  that's way better than linux-source for making new kernels.  I didn't know it existed.06:27
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TobsyHi all!06:32
evilhTobsy: Hi06:34
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gammahey is there an application for kde out there that will sync bookmarks and contacts to a central server?06:52
Nirvanagamma: not that I know of, but try deli.cio.us or google personal homepage06:56
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TobsyI have a problem, the install isn't complete, a log file doesn't exist, the error is not displayed, what can i make?06:58
balostart over?06:59
Tobsy@ me?06:59
gammaNirvana: well i was going to program something to do it because i read an article that ubuntu wanted that feature in their OS06:59
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cgentry72is there a way to boot from a usb device (cd/dvd)07:11
Nirvanalike, from the BIOS?07:11
Nirvanaor from sticking a /boot partition on it?07:11
DHGEcgentry72: many ;-) search some wikis07:11
cgentry72i looked in the BIOS and there wasnt a usb device available07:11
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cgentry72the device works but bios doesn't pick it up07:12
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cgentry72can i stick a boot partition?07:12
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Nirvanayou'd have to format it to ext2/307:15
Nirvanawhat are you trying to do?07:16
cgentry72sorry, it's a cd/dvd drive07:16
cgentry72i'm trying to boot an ISO07:16
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Nirvanaohhh... like, a bootable ISO, like the LIVE CD, or INSTALL CD?07:16
cgentry72yea07:16
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NirvanaOK, you have to configure that from the BIOS.07:17
cgentry72didnt see anything in the bios07:17
Nirvanawhat you do is you find boot sequence/boot order (something dealing with booting up devices) and make sure your cd/dvd drive is first in the list07:17
cgentry72it show my hard drive and internal cd/dvd but not external07:17
cgentry72the internal one is broke - damn sony07:18
cgentry72that's why i bought this external one07:18
Nirvanathen maybe your BIOS doesn't support booting from external devices?07:18
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cgentry72k07:18
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Nirvanacheck on the internet to see if your BIOS has updated firmware to make it able to boot from external devices.07:20
cgentry72ok07:20
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KnowerrorsAnybody know how to change color range in Krita?  I have an image that is 65000 colors, want it to be 25507:31
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_ganymedhallo07:33
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_ganymedi know, it is a bit off-topic, but does anybody know what i have to do to be listed in google (my website)...?07:35
SuperNovahi!07:35
SuperNovaiwe seen that a new version of KDE is out for kubuntu... on the homepage it says something about "keys".. what are those keys used for?07:36
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`NomadSupernova: link?07:37
SuperNovahttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php07:37
tuxiusI cant get into root user in kubuntu07:38
tuxiusAMAZING how hard it is to login as root07:38
Riddell!root07:38
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:38
tuxiusin gentoo it worked like "swuup"07:38
`Nomadsuper: they are for your update system to confirm the validity of the origin of the package you,re installing07:39
tuxiusubotu:  ive looked at that page, but i only found out how to disable the root password, but to do that i needed to be in root, see the major problem here or?07:39
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, tuxius07:39
tuxiusive looked at that page, but i only found out how to disable the root password, but to do that i needed to be in root, see the major problem here or?07:40
larsivituxius: ubotu is a bot ;)07:40
Knowerrorstuxius: its not good to enable root on ubuntu, I did before and it can break some things admin wise in KDE07:40
tuxiusokei07:40
Knowerrorstuxius: just use sudo for everything07:40
Knowerrorsor kdesu for kde apps you want to run as super07:40
tuxiusbut i cant sudo since the root user is locked07:40
tuxiusi cant neither startx?07:40
larsiviKnowerrors: it works great for me, never had troubles with kdesu (except for the 3.5 beta)07:40
tuxiuswierd07:40
tuxiusi realy want this to work on my laptop07:41
Knowerrorstuxius: sudo uses your user password07:41
Knowerrorswhatever you created on install07:41
KnowerrorsI sudo all the time,and my root user is locked too, never made a root account (on this install)07:42
tuxiusKnowerrors: and when i uses sudo I have permission to do all?07:42
Knowerrorsyup07:42
gsneddershow much RAM would i need to run kubuntu smoothly on a duron 700?07:43
Knowerrorsit times out though... you have to give it the password again each new session, or if youre idle07:43
tuxiusthen im going to try it!07:43
`Nomadit,s more secure that way07:43
tuxiusKnowerrors: it didnt work07:43
tuxiusKnowerrors: I used my personaly user pass07:43
tuxiusbut when i type "sudo" in login screen it fails07:44
tuxiusit asks for a pass, but when i then types my personal password for user: tommy, i gets an error07:44
`Nomadlogin as you, you use sudo at teh command line07:44
tuxiusallright07:44
`Nomadif you're logged in as you and start somethign that needs root permission, a dialog box will pop up.. Enter YOUR password :)07:45
Knowerrorsright07:45
Knowerrorstuxius: or if you want to launch a gui app like gimp or kate as sudo, go to K menu, run, then type kdesu kate, or kdesu gimp07:46
`NomadI have a stupid question.. When you're in a document (Openoffice in this case) and you want som etext to be on teh vertical (As in those ads where you tear off the phone number), what's teh term for that?  If there's one, trying to find it in menus07:46
SuperNovadoes anyone know what those keys are?07:46
`Nomadgog keys07:47
`Nomadhttp://www.gpg.org07:47
KnowerrorsNomad font rotation I think07:47
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`Nomadk07:47
`Nomadlooking07:47
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Knowerrorsanybody know how to change color range in Krita?07:49
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tuxiushow do  i startx then?07:54
`NomadI'll be happy when I get my wacom board to work with pressure in linux :)07:54
tuxiusstartx does  not work, im getting error07:54
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^rob^hi07:54
`NomadKnowerrors: Found rotation under paragraph style ;)07:54
^rob^does anyone know OOCalc well?07:54
`NomadWell I never went out drinking with it..07:54
`Nomadbut hey!  :)07:54
tuxiusI cant startx07:55
slewit buyes your drinks!07:55
tuxiusgets an error everytime...07:55
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tuxiusfatal IO error 10407:55
Knowerrors`Nomad: cool07:55
tuxiusKnowerrors: do you know how to fix that one, if you do your good07:56
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Knowerrorstuxius: is this new?  Have you ever been able to startx on this install?07:56
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tuxiusKnowerrors: no i have never got into kde07:56
tuxiusKnowerrors: ive installed and reinstalled it three phu*king times07:57
slewi need to install kubunutu-desktop on another system, whats the link for the repository?07:57
`NomadKnowerrors: My krita seg faults.. :(07:57
tuxiusslew: whats the distro you are want it to be using07:57
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tuxiusremember the only diffrence between ubuntu and kubuntu is that kubuntu is using k desktop envirment, and ubuntu uses gnome07:58
Knowerrorstuxius: you have everything plugged in I assume... in that case its prob your monitor or video card didn't get setup right07:58
slewits ubuntu, im installing as server, and need to put kde on it instead of gnome07:58
`Nomadslew: sudo apt-get install kde-desktop07:59
`NomadI think07:59
Knowerrorsslew: just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:59
tuxiusKnowerrors: may it be that  i uses an ati card and have to "sudo apt-get install ati-drivers?07:59
slewdoes that give me the new kde as well?07:59
Knowerrorstuxius: do an apt-cache search ati07:59
Knowerrorsslew: no07:59
Knowerrorsyou need the repos listed on the kubutu.org site08:00
Knowerrorsfor kde 3.5.108:00
slewok08:00
tuxiusi did Knowerrors but it showd an anormas list08:00
slewthanks =] 08:00
tuxiusenormas08:00
tuxiusor whatever, live in norway and suck in english08:00
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bubihello all08:01
bubican anyone help me out with su problems08:01
bubii just installed kubuntu 5.1008:02
Knowerrorsbubi: don't need su, use sudo instead08:03
tuxiusKnowerrors: whats the real diffrence?08:03
bubitried to sudo pppoeconf but i get error "unable to lookup kubuntu via gethostbyname"08:04
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Knowerrorstuxius: su changes you to root, sudo is like doing root things as user, on a per command basis, I think08:06
Knowerrorsyou can set what things sudo is allowed to do in the sudoers file08:06
Knowerrorsrestrict it, so it can't do all that root can08:06
bubippl dont get flamewar here, rather help me :)08:07
bubiif u can08:07
Knowerrorsbubi: no flamewar, think tuxius just didn't know how sudo works08:07
Knowerrorsbubi: I don't know what your error is, sorry08:08
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vanda1does anyone know how to adjust my screen? it seems pushed over to the left08:09
`NomadAnyone here using skype?  I get a weird thing happening, I use headphones and a mic, but somehow the microphone feeds back the caller,s voice back th them, liek using speakers instead of headphones..08:09
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cgentry72ok now konquor wont open as my filemanager for some reason... when i click on an icon08:10
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cgentry72is there a way to restore kubuntu defaults08:11
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_ganymedciao08:17
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Knowerrorstuxius: you should already have the ati drivers/modules with default install, theyre in the package "linux-restricted-modules"08:18
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RiggzyHey ^^   My friend just installed Kubuntu, and since I dont have an install of Kubuntu infront of me I cant help him very accruately... so, how can he install make from the CD after he;s installed everything? I remember there was a package manager for stuff from the CD but I cannot remember  ><08:19
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slow-motionre08:20
KnowerrorsRiggzy: go to Apept, manage repositories, enable the deb cdrom... line, disable the rest, then fetch updates08:21
KnowerrorsAdept08:21
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Knowerrorstuxius: what are the specs of your system? cpu, ram, etc... is the ati card really new?08:22
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tuxiusKnowerrors: pretty new08:23
tuxiusi got a Packard Bell Easynote W08:23
AyidenDoes anyone know how to set the domain name.. when I type host I get my localhost name but if I type host -d I get host lookup failor. I have bind9 installed08:23
tuxiusi bought two months ago08:23
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marsHi what do I need to set tansparency for windows background?08:24
naliothAyiden: "man hostname" or "google hostname"08:24
mars?08:25
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Knowerrorstuxius: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , then select the VESA video driver, that should get x started ok, then you can tweak video settings later08:25
tuxiusKnowerrors: thanks ill trie that, do  you think it will work08:26
Knowerrorstuxius: try going to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and searching for your help with your ati card there08:26
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Knowerrorstuxius: should work, yes, I went to the forum and just typed in your error "fatal IO error 104"08:27
tuxiuspeople like you makes it easyer living08:28
tuxiusthanks very mutch08:28
Knowerrorsmany posts with same problem, go read there for more help if reconfigure doesn't help08:28
Knowerrorsno problem, good luck08:28
tuxiusmuch*08:28
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evilhi was wondering if there was a way to control my music player on my windows xp computer from my kubuntu laptop?08:30
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`NomadCould you control it from another windows machine^08:33
`Nomadwhat player is it?08:34
evilhim not sure. i think so but i dont have another windows machine to test theory08:34
evilhwinamp08:34
`NomadVLC has it's own web interface to it08:34
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`NomadThen winamp.com is the place to look :)  If they have a remote interfacing built-in, then you<ll know what to look for08:35
evilh*slaps head* why didnt i think of that? should have been the first place i looked.08:36
`Nomadcome share it after, maybe some other people would like to know ;)08:37
tuxiusi tried the mesa driver08:37
`Nomadbut VLC rulez!08:37
tuxiusit wouldnt work08:37
tuxiusnow i didnt get the error when i second tried to config it for ati drivers08:37
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`Nomadhehe08:37
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zizaapropos VLC, it's completely screwed on my system, dunno why08:40
`NomadKnowerrors: So Krita is working on your 3.5.1?08:40
KnowerrorsIm still on 3.5.008:40
`Nomadziza: what does it say?  Start it from the command line08:40
zizai did08:41
KnowerrorsIm halfway through updating to 3.5.108:41
`Nomadany message^08:41
zizait says:08:41
`Nomad?08:41
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`NomadKnow: ok.. :)08:41
zizaVLC media player 0.8.4-svn20040920 Janus08:41
zizaGThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.08:41
zizaaborting...08:41
zizaAborted08:41
`Nomadyou probably still have a faulty process running?08:42
`Nomador is it always liek that even if you reboot?08:42
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`Nomadziza: is your system all up to date?08:42
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zizayep08:43
zizagot KDE 3.5.108:43
`NomadI do too and I<m using it right now08:43
DrakesonCool! have you seen this: http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page4.html08:43
zizathe problem with VLC happened just from one moment to the other08:43
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`Nomadsoem corrupted library maybe..  Remove VLC and reinstall?08:43
zizai guess i tried that already, but i can try it again08:44
`NomadDrakeson: Interesting.. Meanwhile  :(    http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0202-26.htm08:44
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kitschi'm on a fresh kubuntu installation now, and for some really weird reason i can't upgrade to kde 3.5.0/3.5.1 or amarok 1.3.8 which is really annoying. i have of course got the correct sources in sources.list and keys, i've updated package index et.c. anyone have any bright ideas what might cause this?08:44
`Nomadyou did an   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    ?08:45
kitschnomad: yes08:45
`Nomadmessages?08:45
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kitschnomad: before it said i had no more packages to upgrade, but now it installed one new package (ksysgauard) (since i commented out the default sources that come with kubuntu).08:47
`Nomadmaybe redo your sources, i tseems to make a difference from time to time08:47
`Nomadyou know easysource?08:47
kitschno?08:48
`Nomadubotu tell kitsch about easysource08:48
`NomadIt's usually recommended to not use the cutting edge repositories if you like your system stable08:48
kitschthanks, i'll try it but i dont think that's the problem. i'm using the sources from the kubuntu website and i've also tried my backup of sources.list ... :/08:49
`Nomadyeah I know08:50
`Nomadjust fishing08:50
Tm_T`Nomad: also, "cutting edge" repositories got newest bug fixes08:50
`NomadTm: i agree08:50
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bisquitHello, everytime I try to log in via the Normal Login screen, my screen goes black, and you see the blinking cursor, but then it comes rite back up, and if I put in the wrong pass, it says login failed, so that can't be the prob08:51
`Nomad!easysource08:52
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:52
bisquitAnyone got anything on that?08:52
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evilhwell i have scoured winamp.com and this is the only plugin for winamp that may allow me to do what i want: http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=143259&show=reviews08:53
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eightiesk!reactos08:54
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk08:54
evilhhow does one compile source code in kubuntu?08:55
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evilhim tired of not knowing how and as a result not being able to do things08:56
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kitschwhat can i do to make apt-get upgrade to not keep certain packages back? i checked the man page quickly but found no good way...08:57
kitschevilh: you need libtool08:58
`Nomadevilh:  The second message in teh comments on that page, the guy offers his help if you compile it on linux.. :)08:58
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apokryphoskitsch: manually select them for upgrade?08:58
evilhnomad: oops missed that. i need new glasses08:59
evilhor a better laptop08:59
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rizohi09:00
kitschapokryphos: when i do sudo apt-get upgrade, i get about 70 packages that are "kept back" from being upgraded. i'd like most of them to be upgraded (and i dont mind if all get upgraded)09:00
`Nomadevilh: th e4rth one actually, srry :)09:00
rizosince installig kubuntu desktop i am unbale to change fonts in my gnome desktop environment09:00
apokryphoskitsch: so do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:00
bozdark_suic  trying to install breezy on my kids system, when i insert the install cd i get a crc error after the ubuntu screen comes up....System Halted. any ideas??09:00
rizocan anyone help ?09:00
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`Nomadboz: You<re CD has become a toaster^09:01
`Nomad?09:01
dark_suiccrc?09:01
dark_suici think more or less the same as nomad :P09:01
dark_suicis the cd ok?09:01
dark_suici don't think so...09:01
`Nomadcoaster I meant..09:01
rizoi have kde and gnome installed on my system but i can not change the font of gnome apps it seems that KDE is controlling it how can i change back to the default?09:01
`Nomadman I<m out of it today.. :)09:01
bozNomad this is the second cd from my shipit order i've tried??09:01
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`NomadI don't know shipit09:02
kitschapokryphos: you're right, forgot to do it :D i did it five minutes ago but i forgot to do it since i hade upgraded my sources.list again. you forget things after you've been working on things like this for hours... :D09:02
apokryphos=)09:02
bozis that common??09:02
`Nomadboz: not that I know09:02
bozlo ok trying copy # 309:02
`Nomadcopy #3^09:02
`Nomad?09:02
`Nomadoh you download it from them?09:02
bozoutta the 5 they sent me i've tried two different ones so far AND the live cd..same error mss09:03
`Nomadweird..09:03
bozno these are from their shipit program09:03
`NomadJust out of curiosity, how much does that cost^09:03
`Nomad?09:03
dark_suicnomad, shipit is the service that sends you free ubuntu cds home09:04
dark_suicit's free09:04
`Nomadohh ok09:04
boznothing... free shipping and all09:04
`Nomadnice09:04
bozit took like 8 weeks though09:04
bozbut who can complain?09:04
`NomadIf you use the Live CD in another PC, does it work?09:04
bozi'm hunting for the install cd that i set this one up on as we speak09:05
`NomadSo people order it that don't have HighSpeed Internet then?09:06
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TuxiscoolI have an ethernet adapter that is listed as "UNCLAIMED" by lshw -C network. Anyone know how I could make it claimed?09:07
TuxiscoolIt's driver is loaded properly, there is just no device file for it.09:07
bozno i tried burning an iso a had some broken packages so i ordered their cd...  BTW same message with the KNOWN GOOD copy09:07
bozcould my cd-rom be getting a little freaky. iwouldn't think so though if it'll boot to the brown screen?09:09
`Nomadboz: hard to say but try a cleaning09:09
`Nomadcould certainly be09:09
`Nomadis it old?09:09
bozits been sitting on a shelf in the garage, very possible : )09:10
dark_suicboz, does livecd work?09:10
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boz<<<giving it a shot09:10
bozsame message09:11
`Nomadlook sliek it needs a kick mor ethan a shot  ;)09:11
TuxiscoolI have an ethernet adapter that is listed as "UNCLAIMED" by lshw -C network. Anyone know how I could make it claimed?09:12
bozlmao. i'll try taking it out to the backyard and shooting it.  I have another cd-rom around here, I'll try that09:13
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darkhunterHi09:15
darkhunterI need help with Kubuntu guys. :(09:15
darkhunterAnybody not away?09:15
evilhurg i cant find the guy that said he knew how to compile that server for winamp in linux *bangs head on desk*09:15
evilhdarkhunter: whats the problem?09:15
darkhunterOk09:15
darkhunterThe problem is09:16
apokryphosserver for winamp?09:16
darkhunterI installed Kubuntu on my PC, and reformatted my Windows. I got no CD for reformatting/installation.09:16
darkhunterIt installed incorrectly.09:16
darkhunterWhen I boot up my computer, I login09:16
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evilhapokryphos: yeah i wanna play music on winamp on my windows machine from my kubuntu laptop09:16
darkhunterand then, It says im logged in (The black and white screen) and then, ti wants mt eo type in commands09:16
darkhunterWhen I installed it (The base system), it selected me about 9 options to choose from (linux-smg-...) or somethinglike that, and I chose any09:17
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tuxiusKnowerrors: i've installed it again, and trying the commandline you gave me, its still not working09:17
eightiesk#reactos09:17
eightieskhello?09:17
darkhunterThey all gave me errors, and I want to go back to Windows. But I have NO cd. I only have DVDs I can burn too09:17
evilhdarkhunter: so you installed kubuntu and when you login you are at a black and white command prompt. is that right?09:17
darkhunterIm on the live CD right now, and the only think I can use09:17
darkhunterthing*09:17
darkhunterYes09:17
darkhunterI tried all commands (boot, startx, etc..). Nothing works.09:17
tuxiusKnowerrors: -- maybe you'll guide me through  the menuz?09:17
darkhunterI typed "help", but I can not scroll up and down :(.09:17
tuxius!help09:18
evilhdarkhunter: i had the same problem when i first installed kubuntu. try reinstalling it if you have the .iso for it burned to a disc. though it sounds as though you dont have that09:18
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tuxiusKnowerrors: i've installed it again, and trying the commandline you gave me, its still not working09:19
tuxiusafk?09:19
darkhunterI have the iso.09:19
darkhunterI tried many times.09:19
darkhunterI keep getting the error.09:19
apokryphosevilh: samba?09:19
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bozDarc_Suic. Figured it out, aopen mobo has a failsafe boot feature, when i disabled it, it took right off, go figure : )09:19
darkhunterI have 9 options to choose from and the options are something like: linux-smg..., linux-smg-4349 or something)09:19
tuxiusCAN ANYONEHELP ME?? CANT STARTX IN UBUNTU09:19
darkhunterThe base system is causing the problem :(.09:19
darkhunterBut...I picked a option that didnt give me errors09:19
darkhunterbut I still get the black and white screen09:19
evilhdarkhunter: hmm the only option i can think of is redownloading the .iso from another mirror from another computer if you can. thats what i did. then i reinstalled and now its working great09:20
darkhunterI got no other computer :(.09:20
apokryphosTuxiscool: drop the caps09:21
darkhunterI ordered the CDs though before I burned it09:21
apokryphos* tuxius09:21
darkhunterbut thats going to take 6-8 weeks :(09:21
evilhapokryphos: samba is on and i can see and play my music off my windows computer. but i dont want to play the music on my crappy laptop speakers i wanna play it on my nice 5.1 surround hooked up to the windows machine09:21
darkhunterEvilh, what option did you choose from for the base system?09:21
bozdark_suic  i guess WinXP was not the least bit happy with me trying to unredmondize my machine, lol09:21
evilhdarkhunter: i went with defaults on everything09:21
evilhthen configured things once it was running09:22
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darkhunteris there a option for it to install09:22
darkhunterdefault things?09:22
dark_suiclol, strange computer, boz09:22
apokryphosevilh: hm, I have no idea what to do there, I guess I'd just run an apache server in that scenario09:22
tuxiussry caps, im just really desperate09:22
apokryphostuxius: what is the error?09:23
evilhdarkhunter: yeah when the install screen pops up when you boot i just hit enter and followed the instructions from there09:23
tuxiuscant startx cuz 104 error09:23
tuxiusfatal error  104 (connection reset by peer) etc09:23
darkhunterYeh...but then, you got to set up the parition09:23
darkhunterand everything. Cant it do it auto?09:23
evilhapokryphos: yeah that looks like what i might have to do since i cant find the website for the guy that configured a sound server for winamp for linux or a linux version of slipstream09:24
eightiesk!nstf09:24
ubotueightiesk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:24
eightiesk!ntsf09:24
ubotueightiesk: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:24
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tuxiusfatal error  104 (connection reset by peer) etc ! help!09:24
apokryphostuxius: that output is more or less useless. Could you pastebin the output?09:24
eightiesk!nfts09:24
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eightiesk09:24
eightiesk!ntfs09:25
ubotuI guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:25
apokryphos!botabuse09:25
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.09:25
tuxiusk09:25
darkhunter!botabuse09:25
evilhdarkhunter: the installation process will do everything as far as i know. the only input it needed from me was a network name, user name and a password and some basic partition info09:25
tuxiusgonna write the whole line09:25
darkhunterOk09:25
darkhunterSo09:25
darkhunterIf I get the error again09:25
darkhunterShould I keep using live cd?09:25
darkhunterand wait 6 weeks for the cds to come?09:25
tuxius"fatal IO error 104 (connection reset   by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with  events remaining09:25
tuxius"09:26
evilhdarkhunter: yes live cd, while extremely slow, will work until you getyour cd's in the mail or can get on another machine to try redownloading the .iso09:26
eightiesk!partition09:26
ubotueightiesk: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:26
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apokryphostuxius: that's really just not enough output. There'd be other things there09:26
evilhdarkhorse: or maybe someone else in here has a better idea. i'm still pretty new at this though i am learning quickly thanks to the people in here09:26
tuxiusapokryphos:  how do i config my ati-card then?09:28
apokryphostuxius: /msg ubotu ati09:28
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humboldtis there a way in kde to make a DVD from divx or any other movie files?09:30
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evilhapokryphos: i think i know a way to do it09:32
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apokryphoshumboldt: k3b09:36
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humboldtapokryphos: not really. I first have to convert my divx movies to mpeg2 movies and extract the audio as well, when I am not mistaken. k3b does not do that for me.09:37
_rafahi ! everybody09:38
evilh_rafa: hi09:38
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apokryphoshumboldt: divx avis, right? Yup, I'm pretty sure it does those09:38
_rafaI am having problems with /dev/parport0, could anybody try to help me ?09:38
_rafa(or give me some clues) ?09:39
humboldtapokryphos: yes. how?09:39
apokryphos(remember, avis are mpeg-1 layer)09:39
tuxiusapokryphos:  - i did it!:D working      for   4 days, and now, finally it works :D09:40
apokryphos=)09:40
humboldtapokryphos: avis can be everything. Avi is just a file format not a codec! divx = mpeg4 = mpeg1 layer 4 by the way09:41
apokryphossorry, I should have said "can be"09:41
grxmrxI have installed kubuntu (breezy) once again and now I want to upgrade kde to 3.5.1, when I tried to dist-upgrade apt informs me that kubuntu-desktop package is going to be removed, is that ok?09:41
apokryphosyes, avis are cupholders =)09:41
_rafaI am trying to use pikdev, or pkp, but when it try to open /dev/parport0 it saids: "/dev/parport0 must be rw enabled): No such device or address"09:41
_rafa  /dev/parport0 is rw for all users (rw-rw-rw-)09:42
apokryphosgrxmrx: it's ok, but I'm not sure that it should happen. Could you pastebin the whole output from the command?09:42
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tuxiushow do i set up my ethernet card09:43
eidolonhi folks.  anyone know why amarok has been pulled from dapper?09:43
tuxiusive found the module its rt250009:43
eidoloni was using it :)09:43
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tuxiusi modeprobe it, but still dosent work09:43
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tuxiusbut i guess i have to do something more?09:43
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apokryphosgrxmrx: I did say paste :)09:44
apokryphos*pastebin09:44
apokryphosheh09:44
tuxiussomeone pleas09:44
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_rafatuxius: perhaps you should tell modprobe which port is using the card09:45
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_rafatuxius: is that a wireless card ?09:46
markrianIs it possible to have amaroK always show all the songs present in your collection, without having to manually re-scan the collection, clear the playlist and add the "All Collection" playlist?09:47
markrianSo for instance, if I copy music files to my collection directory, amaroK automatically adds it?09:47
ackbahrXlib: No protocol specified09:47
ackbahrHi all! I'm trying to follow this tutorial (http://foo2hp.rkkda.com/), but when I try to launch gnome-cups-manager, I get error messages : Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server09:47
ackbahrand what popped in just above.09:47
ackbahrDoes someone know what I am to do?09:47
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ackbahrGood bye....09:50
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grxmrxapokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/53590909:50
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apokryphosnot that I can understand the language at all ;-)09:51
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apokryphosgrxmrx: ok, I see; perhaps the packaging of kdepim has changed. Yes, it should be fine.09:52
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apokryphosthough you should make sure it's installed before you upgrade to dapper09:52
TuxiscoolI have an ethernet adapter that is listed as "UNCLAIMED" by lshw -C network. Anyone know how I could make it claimed?09:53
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grxmrxapokryphos: "Nast&#281;puj&#261;ce pakiety zostan&#261; USUNI&#280;TE:" - following packages are going to be removed09:54
apokryphos[20:52:08]  <apokryphos> grxmrx: ok, I see; perhaps the packaging of kdepim has changed. Yes, it should be fine.09:55
grxmrxapokryphos: "zatrzymane" - stopped, "zaktualizowane" - upgraded09:55
apokryphos[20:52:26]  <apokryphos> though you should make sure it's installed before you upgrade to dapper09:55
EightiesKne1 know a way i can see my linux partition in windows.09:55
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grxmrxapokryphos: I cannot install kdepim :( there is depencences problem with this package09:57
apokryphosEightiesK: might be worth asking in #ubuntu09:57
apokryphosgrxmrx: what is it?09:57
arrinmurrEightiesK: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ ?09:58
grxmrxapokryphos: it's not installed and I cannot install it09:58
apokryphosgrxmrx: what's the error?09:59
EightiesKarrinmurr, what do i want to dl from there?10:00
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grxmrxapokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/53592210:00
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arrinmurrEightiesK: i'd guess "Ext2fsd, An ext2 filesystem driver for Windows NT/2K/XP. The most recent version has read-write support."10:00
EightiesKnice10:01
grxmrxapokryphos: "wymaga" - require, "nie zostanie zainstalowany" - is not installed10:01
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apokryphoshm, I see10:01
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apokryphosgrxmrx: what happens if you try to install one of those individually?10:01
apokryphosgrxmrx: i.e. try sudo apt-get install akregator10:01
EightiesKarrinmurr, do you know how 2 use it?10:02
grxmrxapokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/53592710:02
arrinmurrEightiesK: no, but i think that with that you can use your linux (ext2/ext3) partitions in windows the same way you use the normal windows partitions10:03
apokryphosgrxmrx: try to install kdelibs4c2 now10:03
flipjargf10:04
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grxmrxapokryphos: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/53593310:05
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apokryphosgrxmrx: keep tracing them back ;-)10:07
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tuxiushi10:09
tuxiusi followed a rt2500 install guide10:09
tuxiusit says: This will install neccessery packages for the compilation, after you write your password.10:09
tuxiusNote for Breezy: You need to install gcc-3.4 instead of (or along with) the default gcc-4 using the following command:10:09
FaX-hiya10:09
tuxiussudo apt-get install gcc-3.410:09
flipjargHow do i get my firefox window  to fill the full screen when i open a firefox window up?10:09
tuxiusbut kubuntu says it could not find the package10:09
tuxiuswhat do i do to get the package?10:09
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flipjargtuxius: Open Adept and do a search for gcc10:11
flipjargtuxius: then scroll down untill you see gcc-3.4 and install it.10:12
_blaiseHas anyone figured out a way to stop Kubuntu crashing around the Starting HotPlug Subsystem / Asla routine?10:12
FaX-I need help :(10:13
_blaise*Alsa10:13
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Phazemanis there any place i can see the time frames of the drapper release ?10:16
Phazemandapper*10:16
Knowerrorstuxius: you may need to enable more repositories, go to Adept>Manage repositories, and enable them all, then reload10:16
vandalhow come the install never asked me for a root password?10:17
FaX-any bud know this error?10:17
FaX-xsetroot: unable to open displey "10:17
FaX-xset: unable to open display "10:17
FaX-ecc ecc10:17
FaX-poi10:17
FaX-ksplash: cannot connect to X server10:17
FaX-kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set.10:17
FaX-Warning: Connect failed: :No such file or directory10:17
FaX-ksmserver: cannot connect to x server10:17
grxmrxapokryphos: is it possible if I to turn off kde351 respositories in sources.list and clean information about the newer packages in order to install kdepim from breezy?10:17
FaX-** (ivman:8582): warning **: manager.c/866: couldn't connect to hal!10:17
FaX-error: couldn't attach to DCOP server!10:17
Phazemanvandal: kubuntu/ubuntu doesn't use root account. it works with sudo10:18
grxmrxapokryphos: is it possible to install it from breezy now?10:18
apokryphosGrarg: the 3.5.1  packs work fine, they're really not the things causing the problem10:18
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_vandalopps10:22
_vandalanyone know how i can set my root password?10:22
_vandalthe install never asked me10:22
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arrinmurr!root10:23
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:23
_vandalwisht they would tell me :P10:23
grxmrxapokryphos: ok, I can install kdepim now :]  hope it helps to safe upgrade of kde10:23
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_vandalok and last thing my screen is pushing off the left side a bit, how can i fix that up10:23
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honkzillaI'm getting a sigsegv while trying to configure my wireless network on a Breezy + KDE 3.5.1 system.  The crash happens when I select eth1, and click "configure interface."  Anyone have any bright ideas?10:47
honkzillaBesides "use the commandline tools?"10:48
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trispacehmm, it seems that kgpg doesn't forgets new added keyservers10:53
trispacesorry, i mean: it forgets new added keyservers10:54
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visik7http://pastebin.com/53602510:55
visik7WTF ?10:55
dark_suicwhat happens?10:56
dark_suicyou can install it10:56
visik7why it ask it to me10:57
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Nirvanavisik7: means it's probably not signed with an encryption key10:57
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visik7the pkg itself ?10:57
Nirvanavisik7: yes10:57
visik7oh ok10:58
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Nirvanavisik7: you can still install it, just make sure you know exactly what this pkg does10:58
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Nirvana"checking Qt - version >= 3.2.0... no  /// configure: error: Qt Mozilla requires at least version 3.2.0 of Qt"11:00
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Nirvanaanyone know what pkg I need ^^11:00
visik7libqt-mt-dev11:00
visik7probably11:00
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visik7libqt3-mt-dev11:01
visik7more probably11:01
tuxiusi need to get my ra0 working?11:02
tuxiushow do I make it working?11:02
tuxiusplease, anyone here?11:04
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tuxiushi everyone, please i NEED help11:10
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Nirvanara0 is?11:10
Nirvanavisik7: I have that lib... it's the first thing I checked11:11
Nirvanatuxius: explain the problem, and what ra0 is...11:11
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visik7how can I lock the screen when lid switch is detected ? I can only hibernate or standby or suspend or poweroff or logout but no lock screen11:13
Nirvanavisik7: I don't know if it's a bug or not, I have the same problem. If i want to lock the screen I click the Klaptop button and click hibernate (it hibernates and locks the session)11:14
visik7Nirvana: I know11:15
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visik7I've modified the lid.sh in /etc/acpi/ to lock the screen on lid event11:15
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visik7but I prefer a native kde method11:15
visik7(if exists)11:15
Nirvanavisik7: check if it's a bug at malone11:15
visik7malone ?11:16
Nirvanahttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com >> should direct you to the new bug tracker11:16
bimberi!malone11:17
ubotuhmm... malone is To search for or enter a bug on ubuntu visit https://launchpad.net/malone/11:17
visik7there is another bug in kde 3.5.111:17
visik7but I dunno how if I can submit it11:17
visik7'couse it's out of breezy11:17
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erhan_Rdid anyone make kernel-compile with 2.6.12-10-686-smp and kde 3.5 ?11:21
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_vandalhey again, does anyone why my screen is pushed off to the left a bit and how to adjust that?11:29
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brodel_vandal: Try adjusting your monitor?11:32
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_vandalbrodel: lol11:33
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_vandali never even thought of that...11:33
brodelhehe11:33
brodelthat's what I'd do.11:33
brodelI had to do that when I got my new monitor last week, so it was fresh in my mind.11:34
_vandaldon't i feel like an idiot now11:34
as_28hello11:34
_vandalthat worked just fine thanks a lot man11:34
brodelha.. THAT kind of help, I can do. :)11:34
as_28thus anyone know why I wifi network card is goin disabld with no reason11:34
_vandalkubuntu is basically debian right? so can i install any .deb packages?11:35
brodelbut I wouldn't know how to help something like as_28 :(11:35
chavo___vandal, not really11:35
brodelnot sure about that either. I'm pretty new.11:35
_vandalchavo_: ok was just wondering11:36
chavo__you can install them, but they can mess things up11:36
_vandalis there an apache 1 package for kubuntu?11:36
bimberi_vandal: yes ...11:36
_vandali'm really new to this sorry11:36
bimberi!info apache11:36
ubotuapache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.33-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 374 kB, Installed size: 804 kB11:36
_vandalnice11:37
bimberi_vandal: it's in the universe repository, which you might have to add ...11:37
bimberi!universe11:37
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:37
_vandali am used to console RH products so wanted to try this11:37
_vandalbimberi: is that kept up by 3rd party or something? or what is the reason it's not enabled by default (the universe repository)11:37
bimberi_vandal: it's community supported free software packages.  Look out, here's another factoid ...11:38
bimberi!components11:38
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components11:38
_vandalthanks :)11:38
_vandalthat bot knows everything11:38
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bimberi_vandal: np :)11:38
bimberi!botsnack11:39
ubotuthanks bimberi :)11:39
_vandallol11:39
_vandalbut this flavor compares mostly to debian right? say for paths where stuff is stored11:39
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_vandallike where say httpd.conf would be stored11:40
bimberi_vandal: yes11:40
_vandalcool11:40
_vandalthanks man, been a great help11:40
bimberi_vandal: yw, have fun!11:40
tuxiusis there any good ethernet configurators here=11:40
tuxius*?11:40
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as_28can anyone help me with my ETH0?11:42
`NomadIs there a switch to turn off the Mic. ?  On windows, it was off by default, and turned on by teh app, like skype for example11:42
tuxiusany good eth experts here=11:42
tuxius?11:42
`Nomad!cups11:43
ubotufrom memory, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/11:43
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_vandalgod this package management is amazing11:44
meatonAre there kde 3.5.1 packages available anywher eyet ?11:45
`Nomaddo a dist-upgrade11:45
`Nomadto get 3.5.111:45
kkathmanmeaton: yes you'll need to change your repo11:45
meatonto ?11:46
`Nomadoh yes, of course, ooops11:46
kkathmanmeaton:  read here:  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php11:46
`NomadI need to know, is CUPS broken by default with Kubuntu?11:46
meatonthanks11:46
kkathman`Nomad:  no11:46
kkathmanmine works fine11:47
`NomadI cannot get in as admin, no matter what11:47
as_28hello11:47
`Nomadkkathman: How do I reset that admin so that I know it should work?  I<ve followed the linuxprinting instructions, no luck11:48
`Nomadit's like it<s on it,s own wavelength, ignoring me and teh changes11:48
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kkathman`Nomad:  how are you accessing now?11:52
kkathmanor trying to access I should say?11:52
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FaX`hi11:53
`NomadI've used the installation software that came with it, Samsung ML-201011:53
`Nomadthe printer is there, showing as offline (Cuz the admin can't log in to turn it on!!)  :(11:54
`NomadI'v efollowed the instructions about adding cupsys to the shadow group11:54
`Nomadrestarted and rebooted many times since11:54
kkathman`Nomad:  have you gone it thorugh system settings - printers?11:54
`Nomadyes i did11:54
kkathmanand you cant click on admin group11:54
`NomadI also went that route, going to pick the PPD file from teh CD11:54
`Nomadadmin group?11:54
`Nomadwhere11:54
kkathmandown at the bottom...sorry Admin mode11:55
`NomadI'm gonna f*&*ing cry..  The button too far down to see.. It never looked like there was more....11:55
kkathmanok sounlol11:56
`NomadThanks!!  I hope that this is all that was needed.. LOL11:56
kkathmanoops11:56
kkathmanhehe11:56
`NomadAfter all of this *^%!@#*^%!@#@     LOL11:56
`Nomadsending test page now, seems dead though11:57
tuxiusany good eth experts here?11:57
tuxiusi need help getting my eth card working11:57
`NomadI strated the printer.11:57
tuxiusneither the wierd or the wireless network is working11:57
`NomadWhy ar esome windows larger than the screen?  Shouldn"t they be designed for 1024X768 as a possibility?12:00
kameronanyone having problems with the kde screensaver not starting? i've upgraded all packages.12:00

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