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jsgotangcowow major lag02:17
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rexshi everybody, i'm a new user to kubuntu & i wan't to help in documenting06:20
rexshow can i join?06:20
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mdkemorning08:51
mdkegeez, everyone's writing books08:52
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jsgotangcoerr when is this joint UDSF meeting?11:17
lloydinhohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSF/MeetingAgenda11:19
lloydinhothis friday at 21.00 UTC11:19
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jsgotangcocool that would be 5am on my side :/11:22
jsgotangcohey rob 11:22
jsgotangcohow's it going11:22
robhi jsgotangco 11:22
robpretty good, yourself?11:22
robI hear there is a book coming out?11:23
jsgotangcoyes11:23
jsgotangcothat would be around 400 pages11:24
jsgotangcoi was talking to sabdfl about it a while ago11:24
jsgotangcoi think he already flew11:24
jsgotangcorob, i'm good, sabdfl was in manila today we got to meet up again and chat11:25
robnice11:25
robhe was in australia recently, but too far away for me to meet him11:25
robwhen is the "big" meeting going to take place?11:31
jsgotangcofriday 21UTC11:31
jsgotangcoit'll be saturday on our side11:31
rob7am11:32
robfor me, on saturday11:32
robwhat are the chances of grws (?) people and others making it?11:32
robthat debate on the forums about automatix was pretty bad11:35
jsgotangcoyeah pretty nasty11:35
jsgotangcoi'm more convinced not to even use it now11:35
robsame11:35
jsgotangcoi tried it like twice11:35
robI have never used it11:35
robdon't see the need, really11:36
jsgotangcoi tried it to see the buzz11:36
jsgotangcoand how crackful it seemed to be11:36
robI really hate some of these unofficial ubuntu-related projects, and the people who run them11:36
jsgotangcothey have their own interpretations11:38
jsgotangcoof stuff done the ubuntu way11:38
robubuntu itself is great, I think some aspects of the community bring it down11:39
robin some ways, it's no better then that of what gentoo is renowned for11:40
robhowever, instead of being elitist, they try to help too much11:41
roband then fight about it11:41
=== rob is kind of enjoying his self-imposed break at the moment
jsgotangcommm??11:42
jsgotangcoany reason for that?11:42
robno, other then work being really busy at the moment11:42
robI've been doing a bit of python too, might submit a patch or two for gnome-app-install11:43
robinfact, I really like the way gnome-app-install is now going, it is a little more Synaptic-like11:43
robanyway, I had better hit the sack11:46
robgood night jsgotangco 11:47
jsgotangconight rob 11:47
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mptLook on Amazon, there are already three books12:19
jsgotangcoyes12:20
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jsgotangcowow doc-commits list is really slow01:18
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jjessemorning02:11
jsgotangcohello best selling author to be02:11
jsgotangco:)02:11
jjessegrin thanks :)02:12
=== jsgotangco is glad of the opportunity given to you
jjessei'm was suprised i was offered it02:13
jsgotangcodon't be, you earned your keep02:13
jjessethanks, just need to find time for all the projects i'm working on02:13
jsgotangcojust don't accept too much that would spread you thin :)02:14
jsgotangcoive churned out a couple of new screenshots for the quickguide, i'll be uploading them shortly and was thinking of expanding the preliminary howto sections02:15
jjesseawesome, i've done a little poking at it but not much02:16
jsgotangcoits ok, we have a few more dapper tests to go :)02:16
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ompaulWhat is the correct name for something like "Games" or "Internet" and so on.06:12
ompaulas found on the menu06:13
mgalvinompaul: Accessories, Games, Graphics, Internet, Office, Sound & Video, System Tools, and Add Applications06:15
mgalvinthose you mean?06:15
ompaulI do, what is the noun for them?06:15
ompaulA name of the the items on the Applications menu or Places menu or the System menu06:21
=== ompaul wants a label for those labels :)
ompaulmgalvin, are you the matt.t one?06:22
mgalvinyes06:22
ompaulit is in reply to your mail, (A) your first one is the best one ;-) imho (and we all know there is no humble there) (B) you gave me an idea06:23
ompaulit is a very good idea.06:23
ompauland lovely graphic06:23
mgalvinthanks, i am glad you like it06:25
mgalvinompaul, for the menus they are generally refered to as the "Applications Menu" etc... or globally as the "GNOME Menu(s)"06:26
mgalvinnot sure if that is what you are looking for06:26
ompaulno, just a sec I can explain it in a little more detail and then tell me what you think06:26
ompaulwhat I am thinking about is this - Default enteries at the top of each menu, they can be duplicated further down, so if you have Gedit at your normal editor then it has "a ubuntu editor graphic" if you change it to xcoral or nedit or something it gets the "ubuntu" flag - now mouse over it and it says the name of the product - so we get to internet there is a default browser - email - irc client - so if someone installs a million irc clients their defau06:28
ompaullt one is first06:28
ompaulhas that any value?06:28
mgalvinompaul: i think that may be something you might want to discuss on -desktop with the desktop team06:30
ompaulokay06:30
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mgalvin:)06:31
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