[02:17] <jsgotangco> wow major lag
[06:20] <rexs> hi everybody, i'm a new user to kubuntu & i wan't to help in documenting
[06:20] <rexs> how can i join?
[08:51] <mdke> morning
[08:52] <mdke> geez, everyone's writing books
[11:17] <jsgotangco> err when is this joint UDSF meeting?
[11:19] <lloydinho> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSF/MeetingAgenda
[11:19] <lloydinho> this friday at 21.00 UTC
[11:22] <jsgotangco> cool that would be 5am on my side :/
[11:22] <jsgotangco> hey rob 
[11:22] <jsgotangco> how's it going
[11:22] <rob> hi jsgotangco 
[11:22] <rob> pretty good, yourself?
[11:23] <rob> I hear there is a book coming out?
[11:23] <jsgotangco> yes
[11:24] <jsgotangco> that would be around 400 pages
[11:24] <jsgotangco> i was talking to sabdfl about it a while ago
[11:24] <jsgotangco> i think he already flew
[11:25] <jsgotangco> rob, i'm good, sabdfl was in manila today we got to meet up again and chat
[11:25] <rob> nice
[11:25] <rob> he was in australia recently, but too far away for me to meet him
[11:31] <rob> when is the "big" meeting going to take place?
[11:31] <jsgotangco> friday 21UTC
[11:31] <jsgotangco> it'll be saturday on our side
[11:32] <rob> 7am
[11:32] <rob> for me, on saturday
[11:32] <rob> what are the chances of grws (?) people and others making it?
[11:35] <rob> that debate on the forums about automatix was pretty bad
[11:35] <jsgotangco> yeah pretty nasty
[11:35] <jsgotangco> i'm more convinced not to even use it now
[11:35] <rob> same
[11:35] <jsgotangco> i tried it like twice
[11:35] <rob> I have never used it
[11:36] <rob> don't see the need, really
[11:36] <jsgotangco> i tried it to see the buzz
[11:36] <jsgotangco> and how crackful it seemed to be
[11:36] <rob> I really hate some of these unofficial ubuntu-related projects, and the people who run them
[11:38] <jsgotangco> they have their own interpretations
[11:38] <jsgotangco> of stuff done the ubuntu way
[11:39] <rob> ubuntu itself is great, I think some aspects of the community bring it down
[11:40] <rob> in some ways, it's no better then that of what gentoo is renowned for
[11:41] <rob> however, instead of being elitist, they try to help too much
[11:41] <rob> and then fight about it
[11:42] <jsgotangco> mmm??
[11:42] <jsgotangco> any reason for that?
[11:42] <rob> no, other then work being really busy at the moment
[11:43] <rob> I've been doing a bit of python too, might submit a patch or two for gnome-app-install
[11:43] <rob> infact, I really like the way gnome-app-install is now going, it is a little more Synaptic-like
[11:46] <rob> anyway, I had better hit the sack
[11:47] <rob> good night jsgotangco 
[11:47] <jsgotangco> night rob 
[12:19] <mpt> Look on Amazon, there are already three books
[12:20] <jsgotangco> yes
[01:18] <jsgotangco> wow doc-commits list is really slow
[02:11] <jjesse> morning
[02:11] <jsgotangco> hello best selling author to be
[02:11] <jsgotangco> :)
[02:12] <jjesse> grin thanks :)
[02:13] <jjesse> i'm was suprised i was offered it
[02:13] <jsgotangco> don't be, you earned your keep
[02:13] <jjesse> thanks, just need to find time for all the projects i'm working on
[02:14] <jsgotangco> just don't accept too much that would spread you thin :)
[02:15] <jsgotangco> ive churned out a couple of new screenshots for the quickguide, i'll be uploading them shortly and was thinking of expanding the preliminary howto sections
[02:16] <jjesse> awesome, i've done a little poking at it but not much
[02:16] <jsgotangco> its ok, we have a few more dapper tests to go :)
[06:12] <ompaul> What is the correct name for something like "Games" or "Internet" and so on.
[06:13] <ompaul> as found on the menu
[06:15] <mgalvin> ompaul: Accessories, Games, Graphics, Internet, Office, Sound & Video, System Tools, and Add Applications
[06:15] <mgalvin> those you mean?
[06:15] <ompaul> I do, what is the noun for them?
[06:21] <ompaul> A name of the the items on the Applications menu or Places menu or the System menu
[06:22] <ompaul> mgalvin, are you the matt.t one?
[06:22] <mgalvin> yes
[06:23] <ompaul> it is in reply to your mail, (A) your first one is the best one ;-) imho (and we all know there is no humble there) (B) you gave me an idea
[06:23] <ompaul> it is a very good idea.
[06:23] <ompaul> and lovely graphic
[06:25] <mgalvin> thanks, i am glad you like it
[06:26] <mgalvin> ompaul, for the menus they are generally refered to as the "Applications Menu" etc... or globally as the "GNOME Menu(s)"
[06:26] <mgalvin> not sure if that is what you are looking for
[06:26] <ompaul> no, just a sec I can explain it in a little more detail and then tell me what you think
[06:28] <ompaul> what I am thinking about is this - Default enteries at the top of each menu, they can be duplicated further down, so if you have Gedit at your normal editor then it has "a ubuntu editor graphic" if you change it to xcoral or nedit or something it gets the "ubuntu" flag - now mouse over it and it says the name of the product - so we get to internet there is a default browser - email - irc client - so if someone installs a million irc clients their defau
[06:28] <ompaul> lt one is first
[06:28] <ompaul> has that any value?
[06:30] <mgalvin> ompaul: i think that may be something you might want to discuss on -desktop with the desktop team
[06:30] <ompaul> okay
[06:31] <mgalvin> :)