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| donsmith | Hello? | 12:59 |
| donsmith | Is anyone here who works on the mono pkgs? | 01:00 |
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| LaserJock | have you guys seen elmo on irc lately? | 01:11 |
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| ajmitch | donsmith: yes? | 01:34 |
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| donsmith | ajmitch: so I have a ppc laptop with dapper | 01:52 |
| donsmith | the thing is mono won't install because the classlib is out of date | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | because things haven't been building properly on ppc, afaik | 01:54 |
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| crimsun | ajmitch: were you able to attend the Van Jacobson networking talk at LCA? | 02:58 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: yes, and I'm very glad that I did | 02:59 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: awesome. I just finished reading Jon Corbet's article of it on lwn.net | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | I need to get that paid account on there | 02:59 |
| crimsun | DDs have an acct iirc | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | yes, but we have to request it | 02:59 |
| === ajmitch was just digging around the kernel source & alsa | ||
| ajmitch | I see there have been some commits in the driver I use | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | last time I tried it didn't seem to make a difference | 03:01 |
| crimsun | which codec does yours use, alc260? alc880? | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | 260 | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | git clone is taking awhile from benc's tree | 03:03 |
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| crimsun | hmph | 03:06 |
| crimsun | I wonder if this is the relevant one: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/alsa/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_realtek.c?r1=1.43&r2=1.44 | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | I looked at that | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | iirc I grabbed that single file & rebuilt alsa with it during a talk last week :) | 03:07 |
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| ajmitch | yeah, that's the source I'm currently using | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | my syslog is really getting filled up with crap now | 03:10 |
| ajmitch | so many selinux messages to get fixed up :) | 03:11 |
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| ajmitch | acer's website is about as evil as their hardware | 03:24 |
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| Kyral | Guys...is it alright to change a .dpatch to close a bug? | 03:40 |
| Kyral | Malone 29965 | 03:43 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29965 in synaptic "Synaptic launcher is asking me for root password" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29965 | 03:43 |
| crimsun | I would disable the original dpatch, copy it, and enable the new one | 03:44 |
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| crimsun | then send a diff between the disabled and the fixed | 03:44 |
| crimsun | then delete the disabled one | 03:44 |
| Kyral | okay... | 03:44 |
| crimsun | in other words, send a diff between the broken and the working dpatch | 03:44 |
| Kyral | yah | 03:45 |
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| minghua | Hi, can any MOTU look at bug 29724? | 04:09 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29724 in xfonts-mona "xfonts-mona installs font to wrong directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29724 | 04:09 |
| minghua | I've tested the debdiff and it works. Any MOTU can upload it? | 04:09 |
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| whiprush | hi ajmitch, crimsun, others ... | 04:34 |
| whiprush | dang, looked like I missed the VJ talk discusssion. | 04:35 |
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| pappan | starting a packaging process seems long :( | 09:38 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello | 09:44 |
| dholbach | good morning | 09:47 |
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| Gloubiboulga | morning dholbach | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | mmm, beer | 09:49 |
| ajmitch | hi | 09:49 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: hiya | 09:54 |
| lifeless | I want opensync in universe ... what should I do ? | 09:54 |
| dholbach | lifeless: i want it too - for weeks :-p | 09:54 |
| lifeless | dholbach: its in sid now ;) | 09:54 |
| dholbach | lifeless: tell elmo to do a sync from Debian. | 09:54 |
| ajmitch | dholbach: it's in sid | 09:54 |
| torkel | lifeless: have debian packaged multisync 0.9 yet? or is it only the framework that is packaged? | 10:09 |
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| zakame | hi all | 11:11 |
| Gloubiboulga | heya zakame | 11:12 |
| zakame | hello Gloubiboulga | 11:12 |
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| zakame | not much activity today, or is it just me? | 11:59 |
| ajmitch | fairly quiet | 11:59 |
| jsgotangco | heh sabdfl fanboi | 12:00 |
| zakame | heh | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: eh? | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | was zakame doing the fanboi routine with sabdfl? | 12:00 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch, zakame asked for sabdfls autograph! | 12:00 |
| zakame | yes | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | oh dear | 12:00 |
| zakame | lol | 12:00 |
| ajmitch | not even I did that | 12:00 |
| jsgotangco | and sabdfl was in a black suit and gold tie... | 12:01 |
| ajmitch | sabdfl was little more casual when I saw him last week | 12:01 |
| jsgotangco | ajmitch, actually a lot of the local ubuntu-ph people did aske for an authograph | 12:01 |
| ajmitch | I don't think I could bring myself to do that :) | 12:01 |
| jsgotangco | me too | 12:02 |
| zakame | heh I got carried away when ealden asked for one :P | 12:02 |
| ajmitch | though I've met him a few times now | 12:02 |
| Lathiat | mark was pretty casual at lca in general | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | we had a good chat today | 12:03 |
| Lathiat | lca is a pretty casual event :) | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: yeah, it's good like that | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | too bad he was rushing to tokyo | 12:03 |
| Lathiat | indeed | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | you can actually talk to people | 12:03 |
| Lathiat | its not like, an expo | 12:03 |
| zakame | sure wish I can go to lca :P | 12:03 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 12:03 |
| ajmitch | rather than treating them like celebrities :) | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 12:03 |
| jsgotangco | that is much fun | 12:03 |
| === jsgotangco was forced to wear something a bit formal today too | ||
| ajmitch | though I regret not getting Lathiat's autograph at LCA :) | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:04 |
| \sh | why is someone asking for an autograph of mark? | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | \sh: because he's so famous | 12:04 |
| azeem | I saw people asking mako for autographs | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | \sh, don't be surprised... | 12:04 |
| ajmitch | azeem: haha, how'd he handle that? | 12:05 |
| zakame | moo | 12:05 |
| azeem | ajmitch: tbm (who was standing next ho him) didn't handle it fine :) | 12:05 |
| \sh | oh shit...and I washed my hand after I shook marks hand, damn... | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | heh | 12:05 |
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| azeem | I think he was still the DPL at that time | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | i'm nobody but someone asked form my autograph in korea... :/ | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | it felt strange | 12:05 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: that's because you were speaking | 12:05 |
| Lathiat | haha | 12:05 |
| Lathiat | it is a bit funy when someone first like recognizes yo uout of the blue and thigs like that | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | noone's asked for my autograph yet :) | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: it was easy to recognise you :P | 12:06 |
| jsgotangco | but i got the supreme honor of being ajmitch's roommate | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | poor jsgotangco | 12:06 |
| Lathiat | at lca2003 some guy came up to me and was like "Hey! yoru that guy from <something> & ipv6!" | 12:06 |
| irvin | heya how do we confirm a bug on malone? do i just add a comment confirming it exists? | 12:06 |
| zakame | lol | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | irvin: yeah, seems to be | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | irvin: change the status, it's not obvious :) | 12:06 |
| zakame | irvin: status | 12:06 |
| Hobbsee | ah, ok then! | 12:07 |
| \sh | the first time I met maddog was really funny...I wondered why this old fart was drinking beer with us at the redhat booth during cebit 2001 | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | irvin: eg click on the packagename(ubuntu) under 'fix requested in' | 12:07 |
| === zakame will ask for ajmitch's autograph then when we meet :P | ||
| ajmitch | zakame: that might not be for awhile :) | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | zakame: more importantly, did you get jsgotangco's? | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | wonder if i could go to germany in may | 12:07 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: is germany confirmed though? | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | I know it was still a possibility | 12:08 |
| jsgotangco | that's what mark said to me today | 12:08 |
| jsgotangco | i told him that's the world cup | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | that's what I heard.. | 12:08 |
| jsgotangco | he said he'll make it squeeze in | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | ok | 12:08 |
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| ajmitch | I probably won't be there | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | can't afford it | 12:08 |
| ajmitch | and canonical wouldn't sponsor me :) | 12:08 |
| irvin | bug #29958 | 12:08 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29958 in monodevelop "Monodevelop requires MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME environment variable be set to start" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29958 | 12:08 |
| \sh | ajmitch: why not? | 12:09 |
| jsgotangco | he hinted he might consider bangalore too | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | \sh: because I'm lazy? | 12:09 |
| zakame | ooh | 12:09 |
| jsgotangco | but that would probably be before the end of the year | 12:09 |
| \sh | ajmitch: oh | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | bangalore would be great, a friend who came to LCA works in bangalore | 12:09 |
| \sh | ajmitch: me too...but depends on the location in germany I would consider visiting the ubuntu conf :) | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | \sh: nah you'd get sponsored | 12:09 |
| ajmitch | but I live on the other side of the world | 12:10 |
| \sh | ajmitch: for what? I'm living in germany :) | 12:10 |
| ajmitch | and have done nothing for dapper | 12:10 |
| === jsgotangco wonders where in germany | ||
| jsgotangco | munich? | 12:10 |
| \sh | ajmitch: and I won't get any sponsor ship again :) | 12:10 |
| ajmitch | \sh: you could | 12:10 |
| \sh | jsgotangco: rumors said...munich....I would prefer hamburg | 12:10 |
| zakame | munich world cup | 12:10 |
| ajmitch | \sh: my single dapper goal will probably slip *again* | 12:10 |
| \sh | zakame: world cup is all over germany :) no one can hide | 12:11 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 12:11 |
| \sh | zakame: even in cologne where I live | 12:11 |
| === jsgotangco follows german bundesliga | ||
| === \sh follows dapper changes, but not the bundesliga..I hate soccer | ||
| jsgotangco | strange... | 12:12 |
| zakame | bundesliga? | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | that's the soccer league | 12:12 |
| \sh | german soccer league | 12:12 |
| zakame | ah | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | zakame, frame that CD | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | it might lose its mint condition!!! | 12:13 |
| zakame | jsgotangco: ack | 12:14 |
| ajmitch | cd? | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | autographed 5.10 heh | 12:14 |
| ajmitch | haha | 12:14 |
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| ajmitch | ah it's great to see users complaining on u-devel, and being told that their complaints are addressed in dapper ;) | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 12:20 |
| jsgotangco | smackdown | 12:20 |
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| ajmitch | jsgotangco: no, just progress being made :) | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | dinner | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | have you read the forum thread on automatix | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | ? | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | I don't bother | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | i just looked at it last night | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | it was nasty | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | it's full of ranting & raving & conspiracy theories | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | its so colorful | 12:21 |
| irvin | i thought the issue was already resolved? | 12:21 |
| jsgotangco | irvin, its now pride at stake | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | irvin: it'll never be resolved, while the people involved still can type & rant :P | 12:22 |
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| jsgotangco | i say a line or two and never come back to a thread | 12:22 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:22 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 12:22 |
| ajmitch | jsgotangco: it's one reason for me to stay away from forums | 12:23 |
| zakame | let's have a boxing match then ;P | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | zakame: it's too depressing reading the forums | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | if I read them too much I'd never want to work on ubuntu :) | 12:26 |
| zakame | ajmitch: yeah, too bad :( | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | the automatix author seems to be unhinged | 12:27 |
| zakame | hmm, `unhinged', how APT | 12:28 |
| ajmitch | :P | 12:28 |
| ajmitch | from the topic in #ubuntu-devel.. | 12:29 |
| ajmitch | No uploads on Friday (Soyuz Rollout) | 12:30 |
| ajmitch | scary stuff | 12:30 |
| \sh | coolk | 12:30 |
| zakame | ooh | 12:30 |
| \sh | at least it lands | 12:30 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 12:31 |
| \sh | tryting to install suns jdk on my dapper amd64 box...I need to install tomcat and play with servlets and jsp stuff...scary | 12:31 |
| Lathiat | eww | 12:33 |
| jsgotangco | soyuz | 12:33 |
| Lathiat | hopefully it doesnt crash | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | \sh: btw apt-proxy has given me many problems tonight | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | \sh: so I haven't rebuilt wine yet | 12:34 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:siretart] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTodo | No uploads on Friday (Soyuz Rollout) | ||
| siretart | just copied the topic from #ubuntu-devel | 12:35 |
| Hobbsee | forgive my ignorance, but why no uploads on friday in particular? | 12:35 |
| zakame | ^^ | 12:36 |
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| ajmitch | siretart: yes, I just told them :) | 12:36 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: soyuz rollout :) | 12:37 |
| === Hobbsee suspects that Soyuz Rollout isnt a person, as she first thought | ||
| === Lathiat laughs | ||
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: soyuz is the new distro management stuff in launchpad | 12:37 |
| === Hobbsee checks with google to find out what the heck Soyuz Rollout is! | ||
| Hobbsee | ah right | 12:37 |
| Lathiat | so soyuz is being rolled out | 12:37 |
| Lathiat | (put in place) | 12:37 |
| ajmitch | you'll probably come back with lots of pics of spacecraft | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | hehehe! now i feel like a moron! | 12:37 |
| Lathiat | it takes the uploads and handles building and that sort of thing (i think?) | 12:37 |
| Lathiat | hence no uploads | 12:37 |
| zakame | lol | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 12:38 |
| zakame | those sort of spacecrafts | 12:38 |
| === ajmitch googles 'soyuz rollout' & finds lots of pics | ||
| jsgotangco | lol | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you might even find some photos of sabdfl in a soyuz | 12:38 |
| zakame | woo | 12:38 |
| Hobbsee | ooh, nice | 12:39 |
| zakame | bye all | 12:39 |
| Hobbsee | you know, I did think Soyuz was a rather weird first name... | 12:39 |
| ajmitch | bye zakame :) | 12:39 |
| jsgotangco | weirder than Malone? | 12:40 |
| Hobbsee | i've never thought that malone was a person lol | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | http://images.spaceref.com/news/2003/20030424_rollout_02.jpg <-- nice little soyuz :) | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 12:43 |
| Lathiat | you knwo whats funny | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | could be fun to be in | 12:43 |
| Lathiat | that has rollout in the name | 12:44 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: of course, what do you think I searched for on google? | 12:44 |
| siretart | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz | 12:44 |
| Lathiat | heh | 12:45 |
| Lathiat | oh wow, dapper installs install all in the first round and boot straight into it | 12:48 |
| Lathiat | thats awesome | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: that's surprising? | 12:49 |
| === StevenK is pondering installing Dapper on his new machine. | ||
| Lathiat | ajmitch: i havent done a dapper cd install yet | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | only upgrades | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | did flight1 do that? | 12:50 |
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| StevenK | I wish I could still download Flight 3 via Jigdo. | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | bah, synaptics for ALPS is still farked | 12:51 |
| ajmitch | ok, I think I'll try & just do selinux hacking tomorrow | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | sleep time now :) | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | btw, I found a horrible photo of sabdfl | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | http://www.beefjerky.com/soyuz1.html | 12:58 |
| \sh | well..he pointed the world to ZA biltong :) | 01:00 |
| jsgotangco | "This is the best beef jerky I ever ate. I'm partial to South African biltong, but your beef jerky is really very good." | 01:03 |
| jsgotangco | alright | 01:04 |
| jsgotangco | Final Frontier Jerky | 01:05 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 01:05 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: "synaptics for ALPS is still farked" - would this be with the slow scrolling? or is there something else wrong with it too? | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, you're pointing at the bug I filed | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | Lathiat: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-x-swat | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | the X SWAT team | 01:06 |
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: yeh that bug | 01:07 |
| Hobbsee | Lathiat: damned bug - did you try the solution at the end that i posted for it? my touchpad's working properly with the workaround | 01:07 |
| Lathiat | Hobbsee: as is mine, but a workaround isnt a solution :) | 01:07 |
| Lathiat | i had forgotten about it cus i had the workaround on my last install :) | 01:08 |
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| Hobbsee | true - but it's better than being forced to use a PS2 mouse! | 01:08 |
| Hobbsee | night ajmitch | 01:08 |
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| Gloubiboulga | MOTUs, I have a little problem with my libswitch package (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1627) | 01:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | I don't really know how to handle sistpoty's last comment | 01:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | could someone help me on this ? | 02:00 |
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| === zakame checks | ||
| Gloubiboulga | thanks zakame | 02:07 |
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| zakame | hmm, seems the main netswitch pkg is arch:all, is this right? | 02:09 |
| Gloubiboulga | yes, that's right | 02:09 |
| zakame | is it a script? | 02:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | it is | 02:10 |
| zakame | ah k | 02:10 |
| zakame | well looking at debian/rules you have an empty binary-indep rule, which is what sistpoty was pointing out | 02:11 |
| zakame | perhaps setting it as `binary-indep: binary-arch' would do, but I'm not sure about that either :/ | 02:12 |
| Gloubiboulga | That's what I've done this time, but I'm not sure of this neither | 02:13 |
| Gloubiboulga | that's why I asked :) | 02:13 |
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| zakame | it probably won't hurt though, since iirc binary-arch gets called first anyway, so binary-indep sinply doesn't do anything, unless binary-arch hasn't been made | 02:15 |
| Gloubiboulga | actually, I don't understand the point of this | 02:16 |
| Gloubiboulga | if you build the package, you build everything, not only the binary-indep | 02:16 |
| Gloubiboulga | or I missed something maybe | 02:17 |
| zakame | well the point is to comply with debian policy wrt to the porcessing of debian/rules, which follows that order | 02:17 |
| zakame | configure -> build -> install ->binary-arch ->binary-indep | 02:17 |
| Gloubiboulga | well, debian policy is our guide so... | 02:18 |
| zakame | thats why for some pkgs I see, they explicitly set the binary-* targets for each package to build | 02:21 |
| Gloubiboulga | could you give me an example ? | 02:22 |
| zakame | say for a package `foo' that produces `foo' binary-arch and `foo-data' binary-indep, the targets could be `binary-indep: binary/foo-data' and `binary-arch: binary/foo', where each `binary/*' rule has its own process | 02:24 |
| zakame | anyhow, hth, gtg :D | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | can you say that in english? | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 02:25 |
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| Gloubiboulga | :) | 02:25 |
| zakame | lol | 02:25 |
| zakame | I'll just blog about fanboi me tomorrow ;P | 02:26 |
| zakame | gn8 | 02:26 |
| jsgotangco | hahaha | 02:26 |
| Kyral | Morning MOTU | 02:59 |
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| pef | hello | 06:46 |
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| Gloubiboulga | salut pef :) | 06:58 |
| pef | Gloubiboulga: bonsoir, ca va ? :) | 06:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | a va :) | 06:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | et toi ? | 06:58 |
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| pef | Gloubiboulga: vi :) je trie les bugs | 07:08 |
| Gloubiboulga | pef, c'est un travail ingrat mais essentiel ;) | 07:08 |
| pef | Gloubiboulga: vaut mieux en faire un peu chaque jour | 07:08 |
| Gloubiboulga | pef, je suis d'acoord avec toi | 07:09 |
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| Gloubiboulga | somebody knows if xlibs-static-pic has been replaced by an other package, or if it's been dropped from dapper ? | 07:14 |
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| siretart | LOL: In response to the rumours [1] , I can confirm with a fair level of certainty that Paul Sladen is in fact *not* the cause of this particular outbreak! | 07:35 |
| === siretart loves dementis :) | ||
| Amaranth | it was siretart! | 07:43 |
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| Gloubiboulga | a bug on a xfce package should be assigned to MOTU or xubuntu-team ? | 08:04 |
| dholbach | CC the xubuntu-team | 08:04 |
| dholbach | and maybe CC the motu team as well, if you like | 08:05 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok | 08:05 |
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| zyga | lucas: hello | 09:22 |
| lucas | hi | 09:22 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 10:44 |
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| ajmitch | hey spacey | 10:52 |
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| spacey | hi | 11:10 |
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| raphink | ok I think I'll stop reorganizing the WikiPages for now | 11:43 |
| raphink | it's quite better imo now | 11:43 |
| raphink | but I'd like someone (or even a few people) to review the work a bit if possible | 11:43 |
| raphink | so anyone volunteering to browse a bit around and hunt for some mistakes ? | 11:43 |
| raphink | this is how the organization looks now : http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/MOTUWiki.png | 11:44 |
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