[01:42] <mornfall> do we support breezy in some way? (apart from security)
[01:42] <mornfall> err, i mean hoary
[01:56] <\sh> via updates
[01:56] <\sh> hoary-updates
[02:02] <mornfall> http://rafb.net/paste/results/SZko4a31.html *sigh*?
[02:14] <mornfall> for fucks sake
[02:14] <mornfall> what's this gnome-app-install horror?
[02:14] <mornfall> they apparently managed to make it worse than it already was
[03:44] <seth> anything recent happen that killed sound?
[04:18] <crimsun> seth: RE: #30040?
[04:24] <seth> crimsun, correct
[04:26] <crimsun> ok, I'll need to reboot tonight to look at it
[04:27] <seth> that would be nice. I miss sound. Alsamixer still sees the card, so does Kmix, but nothing comes out
[04:27] <seth> and everything is set normally in SystemSettings > Sound & Multimedia
[04:27] <seth> so I'm stumped
[04:28] <crimsun> ok, I need lspci -v and amixer output
[04:28] <seth> sure thing. You want to work on this now or just have me put it in the bug report?
[04:28] <seth> I've waited a couple weeks, I don't mind waiting longer
[04:28] <crimsun> now's fine, I have a few moments
[04:29] <crimsun> the other's an alsa-utils issue that needs to be resols
[04:29] <crimsun> resolved for all Dapper; yours is a bit more specific to your hardware
[04:29] <seth> lspci -v = http://seth.pastebin.com/536431
[04:29] <seth> you can grep on Audigy to find my card
[04:30] <seth> amixer = http://seth.pastebin.com/536436
[04:31] <crimsun> hmm, and you're using 2.6.15-14.19, correct?
[04:31] <seth> seth@erebus:~$ uname -a
[04:31] <seth> Linux erebus 2.6.15-14-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jan 25 16:23:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:31] <seth> I'm using whatever's up-to-date as of 10 minutes ago :P
[04:32] <crimsun> yeah, that's 14.19
[04:35] <crimsun> could I get lspci -nv, too?
[04:36] <crimsun> do you have multiple cards in this box?
[04:36] <seth> crimsun, http://seth.pastebin.com/536442
[04:36] <seth> I have a USB microphone, does that count?
[04:36] <seth> no onboard sound though
[04:36] <crimsun> yeah, that's your card 0
[04:37] <crimsun> your audigy is card 1
[04:37] <crimsun> so I need amixer -c1 output
[04:37] <crimsun> I think your issue isn't really an issue related to #30040
[04:37] <seth> hmm, all right.
[04:38] <seth> http://seth.pastebin.com/536446
[04:38] <seth> now to figure out how to either switch card order, or to have it use card 1
[04:38] <seth> although it only started doing this recently
[04:38] <seth> and I've always had the USB mic in the same USB port, even
[04:40] <crimsun> ah beautiful
[04:40] <crimsun> your PCM is set to 0
[04:40] <crimsun> turn it up
[04:40] <crimsun> do the same for 'Analog Mix'
[04:41] <crimsun> possibly for 'HD Analog Front', too, if those don't suffice
[04:41] <crimsun> please then test with aplay -Dhw:1 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[04:41] <seth> argggg, I love-hate upgrades. All better.
[04:41] <crimsun> ok, now you can lock your usb to a secondary position
[04:42] <seth> do you have an Amazon wishlist or something? I totally owe you one, this is like the third time you've fixed my sound stuff. (How do I lock it?)
[04:42] <crimsun> echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:43] <crimsun> on next boot, your audigy will be card 0
[04:43] <seth> thanks, very much
[04:48] <crimsun> np
[05:09] <Tm_T> erh, error changed, now I get *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption: 0x086068f8 *** when I try to use amaroK with gst10 engine
[02:38] <jpatrick> Riddell: kalzium-simulations ftbfs no matter how much I patch it
[03:10] <\sh> jpatrick: build log?
[03:10] <jpatrick> \sh: it just fails if you run "make" anyhow
[03:10] <\sh> jpatrick: source packages anywhere?
[03:12] <jpatrick> \sh: SVN (too unstable if you ask me) :: http://cniehaus.livejournal.com/14929.html
[03:13] <jpatrick> and instead of "qmake" you need "qmake-qt4"
[03:44] <Riddell> jpatrick: huh?  it worked yesterday didn't it?
[03:44] <jpatrick> Riddell: no
[03:45] <Riddell> hmm, looked like it did
[03:45] <jpatrick> I'm gonna to try lastest SVN
[03:46] <jpatrick> "qmake-qt4 -project" brings up missing files here
[03:48] <Riddell> jpatrick: poke carsten in #kde-devel
[03:49] <jpatrick> Isn't he a KOffice dude?
[03:49] <jpatrick> talked to him few minutes ago
[04:09] <jpatrick> Riddell: messy : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/536981
[04:12] <Riddell> jpatrick: yay, linking errors!
[04:16] <jpatrick> got to go, back later..
[04:47] <sebas> Riddell: Ping.
[04:47] <Riddell> sebas: yo
[04:47] <sebas> Hi!
[04:48] <sebas> There's an article about koffice in the dot queue for 24hours now.
[04:48] <sebas> Any reasons why it's delayed?
[04:50] <Riddell> because the dot has all of about 1 active editor and I'm at a conference
[04:51] <Riddell> hmm, Wade doesn't know how to capitalise KOffice
[04:51] <sebas> I'll kick him for that. :)
[04:52] <sebas> Understandable, btw.
[05:05] <sealne> hmm i just noticed that in konq (breezy 3.5.1) on https the wee padlock at the bottom right has its top and bottom missing.  anyone else see that?
[05:10] <Riddell> sealne: fixed in latest kdelibs in dapper
[05:10] <Riddell> I can't update breezy packages this week
[05:10] <sealne> cool
[05:10] <sealne> np
[05:11] <Riddell> ...unless you are able to give me access to a fast i386 machine I can sudo a chroot onto
[05:11] <Riddell> sealne: looks like Ireland has won the akademy vote
[05:11] <Riddell> which makes next 6 months easier for us
[05:11] <sealne> cool time to plan summer holiday :)
[05:11] <Riddell> but slightly weird since it's trusting someone with no connection to KDE for akaemy
[05:11] <Riddell> glasgow was number 2
[05:11] <sealne> such is life
[05:12] <kkathman> is there anywhere else in #kubuntu that would override a link being opened in the default browser, other than in kcontrol, component-chooser, web browser?
[05:12] <Riddell> kkathman: depends on the program
[05:12] <kkathman> firefox
[05:13] <Riddell> firefox won't respect kde settings
[05:13] <Riddell> it's a law unto itself
[05:13] <kkathman> Im just trying to help someone over in #kubuntu and its got me wondering what could be happening..it has to be something in firefox
[05:13] <sealne> Riddell: that result is official i take it? just so i can mail uni conference people to let them know
[05:13] <Riddell> sealne: they got the most votes, I'd say someone will need to confirm with ireland that they really do want to do it now
[05:13] <kkathman> He claims that when he clicks an external link in firefox it opens Konqueror, instead of firefox, whereas other apps open firefox
[05:14] <Riddell> external link?
[05:15] <kkathman> yeah like..an a href="" link
[05:15] <Riddell> what other sort of link is there?
[05:15] <kkathman> my thinking was that it was governed by the web browser setting in kcontrol
[05:15] <kkathman> Riddell:  internal anchor link
[05:16] <Riddell> I've never heard of firefox opening anything in konqueror
[05:16] <kkathman> the coding in html is different for each
[05:16] <kkathman> just wanted to be specific :)
[05:18] <kkathman> Riddell:  ok thanks...just wondered if I was missing something
[05:33] <Riddell> seb	?
[05:34] <Riddell> sebas: ?
[05:40] <apokryphos> Riddell: installing akode-mpeg wants to remove juk, kttsd etc? :/
[05:50] <sealne> how does konqueror decide what to use in its identification string? breezy 3.5.1 thinks its dapper
[05:53] <sebas> Riddell: pong
[05:53] <sebas> Was afk for a moment.
[05:53] <Riddell> sebas: in the lounge
[07:01] <jjesse> Riddell: any changes for flight4 that i need to put in the release notes
[07:02] <Riddell> jjesse: kde 3.5.1?
[07:02] <jjesse> Riddell: do we need to include specific version numbers in release notes? can i change it to the latest version of KDE?
[07:03] <jjesse> that way as we go on, we don't have to change a version#
[07:03] <Riddell> jjesse: I think it needs the version number for KDE
[07:03] <Riddell> else people won't know what the latest is
[07:04] <Riddell> and it's useful for people to be able to look it up
[07:04] <jjesse> ok then i'll chang it
[08:47] <jjesse> what is the default kernel version now incldueded in dapper?
[08:48] <Riddell> I seem to have linux
[08:48] <Riddell> version is 2.6.15-14-386
[08:49] <jjesse> Riddell: ok thanks, about kubuntu says "starting with Linux version 2.6, should i change it to version 2.6.15?
[08:49] <Riddell> can do
[08:49] <Riddell> you'll have to remember to update it for dapper+1 :)
[08:50] <jjesse> Riddell: also in about kubuntu "is based on debian's power apt package management system"  I would like to change it to "based on Debian's powerful Adept package managment"
[08:50] <Riddell> hmm, adept is kinday shared between debian and kubuntu
[08:55] <jjesse> ok working on new text
[09:01] <Riddell> jjesse: flight 4 end of next week most likely incase you don't know
[09:01] <jjesse> Riddell: i have heard, any big changes i need to update for release notes?
[11:23] <Mez> Riddell, ping
[11:23] <directedition> pong
[11:23] <Mez> Riddell?
[11:23] <Mez> not riddell