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| signifer123 | good day | 12:19 |
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| qwizzztest | mhz: when you get back, the original semi-root user can log into the terminal even when it (the semi root usr) is logged into the server, and none of the users I create | 01:08 |
| qwizzztest | can login through the terminal machine at all. | 01:08 |
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| qwizzztest | hi | 01:31 |
| qwizzztest | does read error: 110 mean you guys can't see me any more? | 01:32 |
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| qwizzztest | Anybody here? | 01:52 |
| Lord_Athur | yes | 01:52 |
| Lord_Athur | me | 01:52 |
| Lord_Athur | :p | 01:52 |
| qwizzztest | :D | 01:52 |
| qwizzztest | I'm having some trouble with ltsp | 01:53 |
| qwizzztest | I can only log onto the terminal clients with the original user created during OS install. | 01:54 |
| Lord_Athur | :O | 01:55 |
| Lord_Athur | that wrong | 01:55 |
| Lord_Athur | can't you see gdm? | 01:57 |
| qwizzztest | ?? | 01:58 |
| Lord_Athur | cannot you see any graphical applications? (the first to see is gdm(where you enter graphically)) | 02:00 |
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| Lord_Athur | i've to go | 02:01 |
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| qwizzztest | hello? | 04:43 |
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| juliux | ogra, what do you think about this? http://www.juliux.de/ubuntu/edubuntudvdcover.png | 03:37 |
| ogra | nice, but sadly doesnt gain us anything for dapper :) | 03:39 |
| jsgotangco | oohhh cd coverr | 03:40 |
| juliux | jsgotangco, no a cover for a dvd box | 03:43 |
| juliux | ogra, we also will make a dapper version | 03:43 |
| juliux | ogra, we will make edubuntu dvd boxes for the cebit | 03:43 |
| ogra | juliux, re: dapper version for DVD box, thats nice ! | 03:44 |
| ogra | we'll pretty sure get the pressed install CD this time btw ... | 03:45 |
| juliux | cool | 03:45 |
| juliux | for the cebit we will burn dvds so we can give something about edubuntu away | 03:45 |
| ogra | yup | 03:46 |
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| jsgotangco | grrr | 03:55 |
| ogra | nobody answers my call for serial mice testing :'-( | 04:01 |
| ogra | *sniff* | 04:02 |
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| ogra | its one command to issue ... not really time consuming ... | 04:03 |
| ogra | but anyway if nobody answers with some data we wont have serial mouse support and i'll have less work to do ... fine even :) | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | serial | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | this laptop has no serial | 04:04 |
| jsgotangco | i wish it had | 04:05 |
| ogra | i think thats the point ... and thats why we have this longstanding bug since warty ... | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, do you plan to go to linuxtag? | 04:06 |
| ogra | nobody has the equipment to even do tests | 04:06 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, it overlaps with some other stuff iirc (have forgotten what ) | 04:07 |
| ogra | i'll surely be at FOSDEM | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | err FOSDEM is too soon | 04:07 |
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| ogra | but FOSDEM doesnt clash with my dates | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | i still have a serial mouse somewhere downstairs but i doubt if it still works | 04:09 |
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| spacey | i don't have any serial stuff either | 04:21 |
| spacey | why do people insist using such stuff | 04:21 |
| ogra | many users of thin clients in poorer countries do ... | 04:33 |
| ogra | but its solved for LTSP already ... | 04:34 |
| ogra | mdz just asked if i could solve it for the whole distro and add automatic detection | 04:34 |
| jsgotangco | are you still in london? | 04:35 |
| ogra | yup | 04:36 |
| ogra | until tomorrow | 04:36 |
| jsgotangco | ahh goodie | 04:39 |
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| dungodung | I've just installed Edubuntu | 05:14 |
| dungodung | but my mp3s and videos won't play | 05:14 |
| dungodung | are there codecs I should install? | 05:14 |
| ogra | dungodung, see the RestrictedFormats page on wiki.edubuntu.org | 05:15 |
| dungodung | will do | 05:16 |
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| dungodung | how do I go about installing a .rpm? | 05:51 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: sorry, it's been 4 years since I used rpm | 06:05 |
| mhz_dinner | but i guess you could do $sudo apt-cache search rpm | 06:06 |
| dungodung | then why do they exist? | 06:06 |
| mhz_dinner | rpm = are for redhat based packages | 06:06 |
| dungodung | oh | 06:07 |
| mhz_dinner | while deb = debian based packages | 06:07 |
| mhz_dinner | they are already packaged for each distro | 06:07 |
| dungodung | so ubuntu is based on debian, right | 06:07 |
| dungodung | ? | 06:07 |
| dungodung | which means that I shouldn't use rpms? | 06:07 |
| mhz_dinner | however, you can always download the 'source' package (usually tar.gz) and compile it for your own needs | 06:07 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: it means unless you know what you are doing, you don't need to use rpms | 06:08 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: there is a Package Manager called Synaptics | 06:08 |
| dungodung | I know that | 06:08 |
| mhz_dinner | use it to search for applications you need | 06:08 |
| mhz_dinner | and it will install it for you taking care of dependencies and updating your system | 06:09 |
| dungodung | but synaptic doesn't have what I want | 06:10 |
| dungodung | e.g. amarok, mplayer, pptpconfig, some codecs | 06:10 |
| mhz_dinner | ohhh, it does | 06:11 |
| mhz_dinner | you need to enable it to look for those packages in the other repositories | 06:11 |
| dungodung | not edubuntu | 06:11 |
| dungodung | and I can't connect to internet yet over edubuntu | 06:12 |
| dungodung | so I have to download some packages from WinXP for now | 06:12 |
| mhz_dinner | ohhh | 06:12 |
| mhz_dinner | i see | 06:12 |
| dungodung | I hope pptpconfig enables my wireless connection | 06:12 |
| mhz_dinner | :D then it is not a problem of your APT manager but you connecting to web ? | 06:13 |
| dungodung | and how do I install anything | 06:13 |
| dungodung | ? | 06:13 |
| dungodung | make install? | 06:13 |
| mhz_dinner | depends... | 06:13 |
| mhz_dinner | if you get your .deb packages | 06:13 |
| mhz_dinner | you run $ dpkg -i the_package.deb | 06:14 |
| mhz_dinner | I guess synaptics can do that for you too | 06:14 |
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| === mhz_dinner not sure | ||
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: however, the easiest and fastest way (and more safe) is to get your edubuntu box connected to web | 06:16 |
| dungodung | well that | 06:16 |
| dungodung | well that's what I'm trying | 06:16 |
| mhz_dinner | but I have never used wi-fi yet | 06:16 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: any chances you can try with cables? | 06:16 |
| dungodung | mhz_dinner: I found pptpconfig.rpm... | 06:16 |
| dungodung | mhz_dinner: cables? | 06:17 |
| dungodung | my ISP suggested that I should buy a router (50E) | 06:17 |
| dungodung | and I don't feel like spending that much money | 06:17 |
| dungodung | the other option is pptpconfig and I can't seem to find the appropriate one | 06:17 |
| mhz_dinner | hehehe | 06:18 |
| === mhz_dinner NEVER trusts ISP's | ||
| mhz_dinner | they hardly know more than any enduser | 06:18 |
| dungodung | well, with my ISP, it should be NEVER^n (n->inf.) | 06:18 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: can you tell us your network environment layout? | 06:18 |
| dungodung | network environment layout? what would that be? | 06:19 |
| dungodung | :} | 06:19 |
| mhz_dinner | example: ISP -> cable Modem -> home-server -> swithc -> boxes | 06:19 |
| dungodung | oh | 06:20 |
| dungodung | ISP -> antenna on my roof -> some cables -> my computer (ethernet - wifi) | 06:20 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: and your edubuntu box 'must' use wi-fi? can't it be ethernet cable while we get all you need? | 06:22 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: ooh, you have only one computer? | 06:22 |
| dungodung | yes | 06:22 |
| dungodung | I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31516 | 06:22 |
| mhz_dinner | and those "some cables" what are for? | 06:23 |
| dungodung | for connecting wifi with the antenna | 06:25 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: simple.. add the following to your repository. | 06:25 |
| mhz_dinner | deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/ pptpconfig/ | 06:26 |
| mhz_dinner | deb http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/ php-gtk/ | 06:26 |
| dungodung | and the one for electricity | 06:26 |
| dungodung | how do I add to repository? | 06:26 |
| mhz_dinner | can we use a terminal? | 06:26 |
| dungodung | well I'm in windows | 06:26 |
| mhz_dinner | ohh | 06:26 |
| mhz_dinner | so that box is dualboot? | 06:27 |
| dungodung | and I don't, obviously, have internet in linus | 06:27 |
| dungodung | *x | 06:27 |
| dungodung | yes, I'm having grub manage linux/win | 06:27 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: donwload http://quozl.netrek.org/pptp/pptp-linux-1.5.0.tar.gz | 06:28 |
| mhz_dinner | to your guindouz box | 06:28 |
| dungodung | ok... | 06:28 |
| dungodung | done | 06:28 |
| mhz_dinner | get that tar.gz to your linux HD /home partition | 06:29 |
| mhz_dinner | (usb stick, floppy, cd, somewhow ) :D | 06:29 |
| mhz_dinner | oooppp, sorry, | 06:30 |
| dungodung | I can access the files from linux | 06:30 |
| mhz_dinner | family forcing me to have lunch | 06:30 |
| dungodung | it's ntfs, but I found a way | 06:30 |
| dungodung | ok, you go on | 06:30 |
| dungodung | I'll manage | 06:30 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: you'll have to compile it | 06:30 |
| dungodung | bon apetit | 06:30 |
| dungodung | how? | 06:30 |
| mhz_dinner | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wifi&titlesearch=Titles | 06:32 |
| mhz_dinner | in that wiki, you'll find tons of useful info | 06:32 |
| mhz_dinner | to compile | 06:32 |
| mhz_dinner | or maybe even pptpconfig | 06:32 |
| dungodung | allright | 06:33 |
| dungodung | thank you VERY much | 06:33 |
| dungodung | now, go eat ;)) | 06:33 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: you also have | 06:33 |
| mhz_dinner | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wifi&titlesearch=Titles | 06:33 |
| mhz_dinner | sorry | 06:33 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: you also have pptp-linux | 06:33 |
| mhz_dinner | i guess that is included in the CD | 06:34 |
| mhz_dinner | so maybe even you already have it | 06:34 |
| mhz_dinner | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/mppeVPNhowto?highlight=%28pptpconfig%29 | 06:34 |
| mhz_dinner | dungodung: thx | 06:35 |
| dungodung | :D | 06:35 |
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| signifer123 | hello | 10:34 |
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| Lord_Athur | hi signifer123 | 10:55 |
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