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mptFaBMak, sorry, that's not implemented yet, bug 277312:06
Ubugtumalone bug 2773 in launchpad "Deleting or removing or closing an account" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/277312:06
AlinuxOSFaBMak, no way out :)12:07
AlinuxOSYou will launchpader forewer! :)12:07
FaBMakok, i created two accounts12:08
FaBMaknow i will keep both12:09
mptFaBMak, you can merge those accounts12:14
mptthough *cough* I don't know how you go about doing that12:16
kikoIIRC /people/+mergeaccount12:17
mptWhere's that linked from?12:17
FaBMakthis was my bad, using two differents emails12:18
ajmitch_afternoon12:18
=== mpt can *not* find that page anywhere
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Even more DB perms for Soyuz rollout (r3084: Celso Providelo)12:24
=== mpt finally finds it via jamesh's Weblog :-/
mptFaBMak, log in with the account you want to keep, then go to https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge12:28
ajmitch_mpt: it's right in the middle of launchpad.net/people12:29
ajmitch_instead of on the sides with everything else 12:29
mptoh, wow12:29
mptI even wrote that sentence!12:30
mptand I didn't see it12:30
ajmitch_heh12:30
mptwell, it's on the wrong page12:30
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mptbug 3043912:34
Ubugtumalone bug 30439 in launchpad "Link to page for merging accounts is well-hidden" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3043912:34
FaBMaki saw this option but i think it's better delete the duplicate account, but how this is not possible yet, i will merge then12:34
FaBMakthanks12:35
Kinnisonwas the malone rollout this exciting?12:35
kikoyes12:35
Kinnisonhow did your heart take it12:35
Kinnison?12:35
mptyes, but it was a shorter period12:35
Kinnisonmalone had what? 25 thousand things to migrate?12:36
mptSteve said "James, run the script", and then we all just sat and watched12:36
Kinnisonkiko: how many things has dapper got yet?12:36
kikofive billion and eighty two12:36
ajmitch_is that all?12:36
Kinnisonfuck, it was only five billion and eighty one ten minutes ago12:36
Kinnisonit's going up12:36
mptthat extra one will overload the servers12:37
mptand overserve the loaders12:37
ajmitch_buy more servers12:37
Kinnisonneed12:37
Kinnisonmore12:37
Kinnisonmemory12:37
Kinnisonbandwidth12:37
Kinnisondamnit12:37
kikoyes we need a octo-processor for Sinnickon12:37
Kinnisonmmm sin12:37
mptProcessors of Sinnickon Valley12:38
Kinnisonleave my valley out of this12:38
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=spiv,r=SteveA]  Big cleanup of the translation form. It should be more easy to update and maintain now. This change lets us to finsh the PoMsgSetPage spec implementation (r3085: Carlos Perell Marn)12:52
carloswow, finally...12:52
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carlosnight dudes12:52
carlossee you on Monday!12:52
Kinnisonmemory usage went down!12:55
Kinnisonhallelujah!12:55
kikoheh12:55
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Kinnisonguys, say stuff, kiko feels a desperate need to troll01:02
Kinnison We will fight for bovine freedom, and hold our large heads high. We will run free with the buffalo, or diiiiiiieeee! Cows with guns.01:14
Kinnison The order was given to turn cows to whoppers. Enforced by the might of ten thousand coppers. But on the horizon, surrounding the shoppers, came the deafening roar of chickens in choppers.01:15
mptmmmmmm, chicken01:29
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Add some notes on Gina's breakage on bin-only-NMUs (r3087: Christian Reis)01:56
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=kiko]  Make the build state titles more human friendly/useful. (r3086: James Troup)01:56
kikoyay01:57
kikoyay01:57
kikoyay01:57
ddaahey kiko01:57
kikohey ddaa 01:57
kikono sleep for the wicked?01:57
ddaawant to look at my latest docs?01:57
kikoI can't tonight01:57
kikoI am dying01:57
ddaanow with plenty of new UML diagrams and html export :->01:58
kikoheh01:58
ddaanot asking to read, just want to give you inspiration :P01:58
ddaaI'm dying to anyway.01:58
ddaaYou should really give up this old TeX thing.01:58
ddaaI might even take it as personal failure, I gave almost two years of my life trying to make texmacs suck less.01:59
kikohey latex is the future02:00
kikoand I'm not paying ANY attention to you la la la02:00
ddaaman, latex is sooooo pass!02:00
Kinnisonyeah, proper vulcanised rubber is so clearly the future02:01
ddaamhmh...02:01
ddaamaybe I'll call my future structured typographic system (like when I'm rich or on a sabbatical) "rubber"...02:02
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cprovddaa: where is your doc, let me have a look ...02:07
ddaahttps://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~david/bzr-launchpad/bzr-launchpad.ps02:07
ddaahttps://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~david/bzr-launchpad/bzr-launchpad.html02:07
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ddaaI'll get it in rocketfuel early next week02:07
ddaabah, some bastard earned 4ME... and it's not me...02:08
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ddaacprov: don't hurt yourself, it's heavy stuff02:08
cprovddaa: actually, it's quite nice and not so complicated, you have very good sense for diagrams, they are very legible, even if the theme is sort of __hardcore__  02:12
cprovddaa: I liked it, congratulations dude02:12
ddaayou've got no idea how much time I spent on those02:12
cprovddaa: are you using dia ?02:13
ddaaYup.02:13
ddaaGreat stuff.02:13
ddaaThank you for the praise, I love that.02:13
cprovddaa: I do have, did some diagrams for soyuz infra ...02:13
cprovddaa: you deserve it, I know it costs days of hard work, you rock !02:14
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  fix emacs TAGS generation in Makefile (r3088: James Troup)02:36
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monziei want to contribute to Ubuntu05:35
monziei have Debian administering/packaging experience05:35
monziepease tell where my skills will be needed the most05:35
kikomonzie, visit #ubuntu-motu05:53
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kikoyawn07:41
mptstill awake, kiko?07:55
kikounfortunately no07:56
kikoI am rubbing my eyes and typing07:58
kikobut no, I can't really say I'm awake07:58
mptkiko, do you remember when you turned off the auto-bug-summarization code?08:01
kikoI will need a better description of said code 08:01
mptthe code that took the first sentence of a bug report's description and inserted it into the "summary" field08:02
kikodid /I/ turn that off? it was a long time ago if so08:03
mptabout bug 1380...08:04
mptok, #1384 has an auto-summary and #1385 does not08:04
mptjamesh, ping08:16
kikoyeah, good idea, jamesh ping?08:19
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mptYES09:17
mptjamesh, de-ping09:23
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kikomdz!09:47
mdzgood morning09:47
kikohow are you?09:47
mdzthat depends09:47
kikoKinnison needs to give me +v in #soyuzrollout09:47
kikowe're just doing the final touches on putting everything online09:47
kikothank you for your patience09:47
mdzfabio is awake and would like to know his fate09:48
mdzif everything is not online soon, there could be a controversy over interpretation of the bet09:48
kikowell09:49
kikofabbione's fate was sealed the moment he made that bet09:49
kikohonestly, there were no surprises overnight09:50
kikothe process just involves many steps09:50
mdzI think I misinterpreted your original message as 6 hours of downtime rather than 1809:50
KinnisonHey dudes09:51
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kikomorning Kinnison 09:52
kikonice to see you rise and shine09:52
KinnisonSorry I was so long, I figured I'd actually try and get some sleep09:52
KinnisonAre we physically anywhere useful or should I stay here in my room?09:53
Kinnisoncprov is still dead to the world and it may be best to leave him there09:53
Kinnisonthe poor guy was so tired09:53
mdzdoes he know what is at stake?09:53
KinnisonHe does09:54
Kinnisonbut to be honest there's little he could do right now09:54
fabbioneare we there yet?09:54
fabbione:)09:54
Kinnisonkiko: So is James doing the rsync now?09:54
fabbionekiko: sooooooo do i need to shave or not?09:54
Kinnisonfabbione: very almost. All pretty much on track for our original projections09:55
fabbioneKinnison: good job.. i will shave my head with pleasure if all goes well09:56
fabbioneotherwise i will enjoy mdz's beer :)09:56
mdzeveryone will09:56
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kikoKinnison, yes, he's doing the rsync tests now, will take a bit09:57
Kinnisonkiko: right, cool09:57
Kinnisonkiko: are you updating the wiki page and channel?09:58
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Keybukyou realise the roll-out will not be complete until someone brings a set of hair-clippers to ExCeL09:58
Kinnisonis that where you guys are?09:59
Keybukyeah09:59
KinnisonWell that saves me asking again later :-)10:00
kikoKinnison, yes, I am10:00
mdzKeybuk: that won't be necessary10:04
mdzwe're all coming in to central London tonight10:04
fabbionekiko: you better show up this evening :)10:05
fabbionekiko: i am trusty10:05
fabbioneoh how the hell you spell it10:05
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kikoI am awake and my spirits are high10:05
SteveAhmm, beer10:11
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GaNjA`ShAiTaNhi10:13
Keybuka Soyuz web-app "related packages" feature would be nice10:37
Keybukso from alsa-base I could see "alsa-utils" :)10:37
Kinnisonfile a bug I guess10:37
Keybukis it possible?10:37
Kinnisonumm let's have a quick ponder10:38
Kinnisonhow do you define 'related' ?10:38
Keybuk<WAVE HANDS WILDLY>10:40
Keybuk"People who fixed bugs on FOO often fixed bugs on BAR too"10:41
kikoomg10:41
mdza link to the bug contact (ubuntu-audio) which should have a link to the other packages for which it is a contact10:42
mdzthough it doesn't yet10:42
KinnisonKeybuk: that sounds like we need some kind of heuristic analyst which looks at activity in a distro and tries to make/break links between people and packages10:43
KinnisonKeybuk: this is way more than a UI change10:43
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mdkeis it possible to unsubscribe someone from a bug in malone?11:32
mdkeright now, the documentation team mailing list is qa on every bug in ubuntu-docs, which is good. But what we'd like is for only the first message to go to the list. If possible, this would happen automatically, but if necessary, I'd like to remove the subscription manually. Can I do this?11:34
mdzmdke: no, not presently11:41
mdkemdz, ok thanks11:41
mdkeso groups can't be unsubscribed from bugs at all?11:41
mdzcorrect, it's a bug11:42
mdzbradb is aware of the problem, but I can't find a bug report in malone11:42
mdzit may be that it isn't filed yet11:42
mdkei might do one if I can't find it either11:42
mdkethanks11:42
BjornTmdke: well, you can unsubscribe people/teams using the email interface11:44
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mdzKinnison: how is the publisher doing?11:59
siretartwould it be possible to make looking at buildlogs less painfull?12:01
kiko-fudyes12:03
kiko-fudit will be less painful on tuesday12:03
mdzthat is a tuesday problem12:04
mdzhow are we doing on today?12:04
kiko-fudthere is code in RF already that improves that12:04
kiko-fudwe're doing well12:04
kiko-fudwaiting for publisher run 112:04
mdza publisher run is ~30m?12:06
KinnisonNormally yes12:06
Kinnisonbut this one has a huge number of gina fuckage/unfuckage12:06
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KinnisonSodding gina12:11
Kinnisonhatesses her we do12:11
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kikomorning matsubara 12:33
matsubaragood morning Kiko12:34
kikohow's it going?12:42
fabbionekiko: 15 minutes left for the transition12:46
fabbioneor i get more beer :)12:46
kikofabbione, it is inevitable, though it may delay a bit -- THE ROLLOUT WILL HAPPEN12:48
fabbionekiko: i am sure it will happen12:48
fabbionei am just looking at the clock and other stuff to match the bet with mdz12:49
fabbioneso if you want to look at me shaved you better hurry up12:49
fabbioneor pass by an atm before this evening ;)12:49
kikolooking at the clock is for sissie12:49
kikos12:49
fabbionekiko: and to be hounest i wish to go back home without hair.. really12:49
kikoreal men take their bets to the limit12:49
fabbionei want this over for all of us12:49
kikowell12:49
kikowe will need 20 more minutes for the publisher to finish running12:50
fabbioneok12:50
kikoperhaps another 40 for a second publisher run if we are unlucky12:50
kikothen we update dns12:50
fabbioneok i will extend the bet :)12:50
kikoand the mirrors12:50
kikotell you what -- extend the bet and we will shave you AND buy you beer12:50
fabbioneahhaha12:50
fabbioneok12:50
fabbionedeal12:50
kikothat way we all win12:50
fabbionewe need shaving equipment tho12:51
fabbionedoes LP supports external shaving over IP?12:51
kikoit does but it requires you have a preferred email address and 750 karma points12:51
jordikiko: I want to try it12:58
jordiI have like billions of karma points12:58
kikoyou also need to weigh more than 45kg to participate12:59
kikoUnpublishing death row.01:08
Kinnisonthis is gonna take a little while01:08
Kinnison:-)01:08
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kikohopefully less than last time01:09
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fabbionekiko: i can't answer on #soyuzrollout :)01:17
kikothat is the entire point of this exercise :)01:18
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fabbionekiko: so are uploads processed now? as in ARE WE THERE YET?01:23
kikofabbione, we have a golden archive from the comparator's viewpoint01:23
fabbionekiko: cool01:24
kikoelmo is looking at rsync effects of the pool change01:24
fabbionekiko: how bad does it look for the mirror?01:39
fabbione+s01:39
kiko2.3G01:40
mdzwhy so much?01:40
fabbionethat's... that's... INSANE01:40
fabbionetimestamp screwage?01:40
kikothere's two main causes01:41
kikofirst, because we are (at least in some cases) not moving sources around when the binaries change component01:42
kikosecond, because of the change in policy to link main -> universe whenever possible01:42
fabbionewhy did you change policy?01:42
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Kinnisonto make a just-main mirror more correct01:42
fabbioneKinnison, kiko: are all these policy changes going to affect only dapper?01:50
jordimy bad01:50
fabbioneor do we need to go and check from warty back to NOW01:50
Kinnisonfabbione: it affects the pool as a whole01:51
kikofabbione, the symlinks are in place where they need to be.01:51
kikoKinnison, let's un-m #soyuzrollout?01:51
Kinnisonokay01:51
mdzKinnison: oh god, PLEASE tell me you aren't still calling it cron.daily01:54
Kinnisonmdz: for the short term, yes01:54
kikoit almost takes a day to run anyway01:54
Kinnisonmdz: just so we kept terminology shear small while we were deploying01:54
mdzthat is not a very funny joke01:54
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weedarFor some reason I can't log on to my account01:59
weedarCan anyone help?02:00
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weedarHow do I sign codes of conduct?02:08
kikolog into launchpad, download and sign the content, push it back up02:08
weedarWell, it's the "sign the content"-part I dont get02:09
weedarHow do I do that?02:09
fabbioneweedar: with gpg02:09
fabbioneif you don't know what gpg is, there is a lot of documentation on the web02:09
weedarAh, no I have it installed. It's just that it wasn't obvious (to me anyway) that that was what was needed :)02:10
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weedarI get an error, str: no public key02:17
fabbioneweedar: gpg implies that you read the manual, understand what gpg is and so on..02:19
fabbioneif you have never used gpg before, you must do some extensive reading02:19
weedarI use it all the time to encrypt and decrypt messages02:19
weedarAnd it works, which is why I'm bothered as to why when I chose sign/Verify clipboard and then paste the contents it doesn't work02:19
weedarI also tried adding my public key to the contents, but that didn't help either02:20
fabbioneno you need to add you pub key to launchpad02:21
fabbionein the person section02:21
weedarah, okay :)02:21
weedarfabbione, when I am told to upload my key to a keyserver, will wwwkeys.pgp.net do?02:29
fabbioneweedar: yes, but it will take time to propagate, you can also upload to keyserver.ubuntu.com02:34
weedarIn time, will keyserver.ubuntu.com "download" my key or should I for some reason also upload to keyserver.ubuntu.com ?02:34
fabbioneit usually takes about 5 minutes for a key to propagate over the keyserver network02:35
fabbioneso it will eventually hit keyserver.ubuntu.com, but time is not always exact02:35
weedarOk, it works now. I think somebody once mentioned patience beeing a virtue, but I didn't have the time to listen..02:36
weedarAm I required to something else to be able to use my launchpad account to log on to the ubuntu wiki fabbione ?02:42
fabbioneweedar: not that i know of02:43
weedarBecause I am in the launchpad, logged in. But when trying to logon to the ubuntu wiki I get "wrong password" error02:43
fabbioneweedar: i dunno.. it might take time to propagate02:44
weedarOkay. I hope that is the reason, I can't remember the last time I've been this frustrated02:46
weedarBy the way, thanks for all your help so far, you've kept me sane this last hour02:47
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jsgotangcohi04:13
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jbaileyTrying here before filing a bug.  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+search?text=at claims that there's no source package "at" in Ubuntu.  I'm fairly certain there is.04:31
jbaileyWhich of us is confused?04:31
Kinnisonthe statistician may be confused04:32
jbaileyKinnison: Sorry, I'm not sure if you're 1) Being Humourous, 2) Sleep Deprived, 3) Refering to something I've never heard of.04:33
jbailey=)04:33
Kinnison304:33
Kinnisonand 204:33
Kinnisondefinitely not 104:33
Kinnisonwell, not deliberately anyway04:33
jbaileyAh. =)04:34
jbaileyIs there something I can usefull report on this/04:34
Kinnison1. report a bug in /products/soyuz04:36
Kinnison2. 'at' may be a stopword in the fti we use04:37
Kinnison3. /distros/ubuntu/+source/<spn> is useful if you already know the name04:38
ddaasorry guys, that just made me laugh too much to escape the quotes page04:38
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=== sivang wished he could see that quote page :)
sivangKinnison: I know you're famour there :-)04:46
sivangs/famour/famous/04:46
ddaawell, there's a number of quotes which might too offensive for publication...04:48
sivangddaa: Kinnison's ? 04:48
ddaa"<kiko> do babies count as humans?"04:49
sivanghehe04:49
ddaa"< lifeless> hmmm. flaming hamster sucking plastic anal violation ? < thom> lifeless: yes, it's an alias for tla :P"04:49
sivanghehe04:49
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sivangddaa: are you also in the soyuz sprint ?04:50
ddaanope04:50
ddaathese are old quotes04:50
sivangddaa: anything by Kinnison , new? :)04:50
sivangah, jblack is not around, too bad.04:51
ddaaNothing very recent04:51
ddaa"<kiko> man04:51
ddaa<kiko> 3 days with no head04:51
ddaa<kiko> wtf04:51
ddaa<Kinnison> kiko: you must have been bursting04:51
ddaa<Kinnison> oh, you mean source code"04:51
ddaaNot much from Kinnison really04:53
ddaa"<sabdfl> Germany, Amsterdam, The Netherlands; countries like that."04:53
ddaa"Mark: does anyone know how got a bottle of liquid latex in my pocket?"04:53
sivangHAHAHA04:53
sivangddaa: the last once was in UBZ, I was near Mark when he discovered that :)04:54
sivangbut I liked the first one btter04:54
ddaaI was not around, I'm quite sad :)04:54
sivangddaa: he tried to pass it around, and everybody got away from him :)04:54
ddaa<jblack's activity report> * (.25h) Touched elmo for planet.bazaar.canonical.com04:55
ddaaOh, yes ther's a famous one04:55
ddaaSpec Writing04:55
ddaa<Kinnison> pink is nominally green unless it has yellow written on it 04:55
sivang:-)04:56
sivangwhat that thing about spec writing?04:56
sivangI didnt' uunderstand the joke ..04:56
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ddaaI guess it was about nonsensical specs04:57
ddaaOne of the more offensive ones (pretty old one): <Kinnison> But to fix that, we'd need to re-engineer Tom Lord's arsecrack.04:58
ddaa<Kinnison> My knowledge of quebecois is limited to holding my nose whilst speaking french 04:58
ddaanot much funny stuff from Kinni on the quotes page05:00
sivangah I see, I recall marilize going over Kinni's ones in UBZ and ROTFLing05:01
KinnisonIt often needs context05:03
Kinnisonand people aren't always good at recording context05:04
sivangprobably.05:04
sivangKinnison: how are you ,?05:05
Kinnisonsivang: very very very tired05:05
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sivangoh dear.05:05
Kinnisontonight I will sleep the sleep of the dead05:05
sivangwere you hacking on soyuz till late?05:07
Kinnisonsoyuz deployed last night / this morning05:08
Kinnisonubuntu is now run on launchpad05:08
KinnisonOMG05:08
sivangOMG05:08
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sivangheap of bugs?05:08
Kinnisonheap of tired kinnimess05:08
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sivangso now archive.u.com was produced by lp ?05:09
Kinnisonyes05:09
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=== sivang wonders how that will change upload / maintainership process
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tsengcan someone force an account merge for me given a gpg signature?05:24
tsengone of the mail accounts involved isnt working properly05:24
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mebahi06:49
mebai just have one note to Rosetta translator: i did not found possibility to search strings, is it possible? If not, i think it should be implemented, because i just found one untranslated string in gnome-panel for ubuntu dapper and i am trying to find it to translate it...06:51
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