[12:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:03] <Hobbsee> wasnt so horrible from here - left the machine on all night, it compiled, done
[12:19] <Mez> backporting is horrible
[12:19] <Mez> cause I gotta build, then install, build install
[12:19] <Mez> basically bootstrap the whole base system
[12:19] <Hobbsee> ew
[12:19] <Hobbsee> true
[12:20] <Mez> hehe :d
[12:20] <Mez> and then stumbling across a bug
[12:20] <Mez> having to wait for Riddell to fix ti
[12:21] <Hobbsee> lol true
[01:02] <raphink> Riddell: kmail is hugely broken in kde 3.5.1
[01:02] <raphink> I reported a bug in bugs.kde.org
[01:02] <raphink> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121391
[01:38] <Hobbsee_away> leaving the breezy one to build while i'm at work
[01:47] <hunger> This new gnome stuff is really annoying on the kde desktop:-(
[07:23] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping
[07:28] <Hobbsee> dammit, upload to revu froze, now it wont restart...
[09:04] <Tm_T> Riddell: Kopete 0.12 is coming to feature freeze, maybe I do packages for it? as practice
[09:05] <Tm_T> and if I do, with or without libjingle support?
[10:02] <hunger> Damn! Gnome is soooo stupid!
[10:02] <hunger> AAAARRRRGGGGGG!
[10:02] <hunger> Sorry for that.
[10:04] <Tm_T> Kubuntu <3
[10:04] <hunger> Tm_T ?
[10:04] <Tm_T> hey, I just love my KDE
[10:04] <hunger> So do I... but ubuntu really breaks the experience nowadays.
[10:05] <hunger> ubuntu/dapper that is.
[10:05] <Tm_T> hmm, please specify
[10:06] <hunger> Tm_T: I.e. kdm starting gnome by default all of a sudden when not explicitly told to use kde.
[10:06] <jsgotangco> yeah
[10:06] <hunger> Tm_T: Then the screen going dark... (I guess gnome-power-manager hits here).
[10:07] <Tm_T> hunger: never seen anything like that
[10:07] <hunger> Tm_T: Have to adjust the brightness to see anything
[10:07] <jsgotangco> ive experienced that too
[10:07] <jsgotangco> even if my laptop is plugged
[10:07] <hunger> Then I get a gnome window informing me about the fingerprint of localhost... no idea where that suddenly comes from.
[10:08] <hunger> Then nautilus pops up (in addition to konqui) since I have a usb stick connected.
[10:08] <Tm_T> hunger: oh you have nice mess there
[10:08] <hunger> Doing anything suspicious with hardware causes even more gnome windows to pop up...
[10:09] <Tm_T> none of that happens here
[10:09] <hunger> Then when I log out some other gnomeish window informs me that it crashed and I have to close that before logout continues...
[10:09] <hunger> Damn gnome shit!
[10:10] <hunger> Oh... and on shutdown the box freezes on a regular basis... but that is nothing I can blame on gnome I think:-)
[10:10] <hunger> I tried switching to gnome completely, but that environment is so fucked up that I can not even bind actions to key-combos containing a win-key.
[10:11] <Tm_T> you can, after hours of struggle in different menus and settings
[10:11] <hunger> After switching I won't notice that gnome-stuff popping up anymore;-)
[10:11] <hunger> Tm_T: No, you can not.
[10:12] <hunger> Tm_T: You can hack it into gnomes "registry" shit directly, but not via any menu.
[10:12] <hunger> By the way: When trying to switch to gnome I found a config app to set the brightness of the screen for the power manager.
[10:13] <hunger> Why is that configurable at a user level at all?
[10:13] <hunger> Damn icaza... why did he need to start a kde rip-off in the first place:-(
[10:14] <Tm_T> hunger: I did set winkey to use through gui, no registry
[10:15] <hunger> Tm_T: Then you were cleverer than me and the guys in the forums:-)
[10:15] <Tm_T> haha
[10:15] <Tm_T> can't remember how I did it though
[10:15] <hunger> OK, have to run and grab breakfast.
[10:16] <hunger> Tm_T: Doesen't matter. I found out how to do it, I just gave up on the complete gnome idea while doing so.
[10:16] <Tm_T> haha
[10:16] <Tm_T> KDE <3
[10:16] <hunger> Tm_T ?
[10:16] <hunger> <3?
[10:16] <Tm_T> heart
[10:17] <hunger> I am on 3.5.1 of course.
[10:17] <hunger> Oh:-)
[10:17] <Tm_T> I am in KDE 3.5.1/Dapper with some KDE-devel stuff
[10:17] <hunger> Sorry, I am a newbie to this leet speak.
[10:17] <Tm_T> it's not leet speak
[10:17] <hunger> maybe that hal mess is integrated there?
[10:18] <Tm_T> hunger: if you anage, please go ahead =)
[10:18] <Tm_T> s/anage/manage/
[10:18] <hunger> That ksysguard is broken with the dapper kernel is really getting on my nerves anyway.
[10:19] <hunger> add all that new gnome-shit that messes up the experience... I am ready for some switch to something I hope might end up being better.
[10:23] <Tm_T> hum, ksysguard works here just fine
[10:26] <hunger> Tm_T: Try cpu_freq
[10:26] <hunger> Tm_T: uses /proc something which kernels >2.6.14 IIRC report the bootup value only.
[10:27] <Tm_T> hum, but it should be bootup value
[10:27] <Tm_T> here
[10:29] <hunger> Tm_T: Well it is dynamic here...
[10:29] <hunger> Tm_T: Worked in breezy (old kernel), breaks in dapper.
[10:29] <hunger> That app is a huge mess anyway:-( Noboby touched it in ages.
[10:56] <Hobbsee> argh! times are screwed up in dapper now!
[10:56] <Hobbsee> it's not almost 10 in the morning!  it's not!
[10:59] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[11:03] <sealne> anyone else seeing kicker repeatedly dieing in breezy 3.5.1?
[11:04] <Hobbsee> sealne: on shutdown?
[11:05] <sealne> no just during normal use
[11:05] <sealne> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/539777
[11:05] <sealne> that is displayed in the konsole i last started it from
[11:06] <Hobbsee> i'm getting some of that - but my kicker seems to be staying alive..
[11:06] <sealne> happened 3 times in the last ~24hrs to me
[11:07] <Hobbsee> great - sealne are your timezones in kclock working?  seeing as you mentioned kicker
[11:07] <sealne> sorry not sure what you mean
[11:08] <sealne> also when kicker is restarted "Xlib:  extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0"."
[11:08] <Hobbsee> sealne: is your kicker showing the correct time?  also, when you mouseover the kclock in the kicker, and it shows you the list of timezones, do they all say the same time?  (10.08am)
[11:09] <sealne> when starting kicker: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/539782
[11:10] <sealne> it dosen't do anything when i mouse over
[11:10] <\sh> sealne: I think it's more an xmmskde thing then kicker
[11:10] <\sh> sealne: remove first the xmmskde applet then try again
[11:10] <sealne> thats what i was wondering after seeing wht it said when i started it
[11:12] <sealne> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/539783 certainly less complaints when stating without xmmskde
[11:14] <\sh> sealne: run it without this xmmskde stuff some time now
[11:14] <\sh> morning Hobbsee btw :)
[11:15] <sealne> the extension shape thing maybe because i disabled some stuff yesterday while trying to get an agp and pci ati radeon graphics card to play together
[11:15] <Hobbsee> evening \sh - dont try to confuse me like my clock is please lol!
[11:15] <\sh> Hobbsee: lol..
[11:15] <sealne> \sh: yeah will leave it off and see if i have any probs over the next day or so
[11:15] <\sh> sealne: and you don't need xmms :) use amarok :)
[11:15] <Hobbsee> it says it's 10.15am - and if i forget about dinner tonight, i wont even be able to get up tomorrow morning - so it's kinda a pain!!!
[11:15] <sealne> \sh: :P
[11:16] <\sh> Hobbsee: fix it? ;)
[11:16] <Hobbsee> i wish!
[11:16] <sealne> xmms is the best media player in the work ;-)
[11:16] <Hobbsee> dont know how to yet though....will file a bug sometime soon though
[11:17] <sealne> world even
[11:17] <\sh> Hobbsee: what's wrong? did you check your bios clock and your timezone settings?
[11:17] <Hobbsee> \sh: bios clock should be fine, timezone setting is correct - set to sydney australia - but it's showing that it's 10.17am (presumably UTC) in all timezones
[11:17] <sealne> are there buglists for kubuntu.org packages anywhere?
[11:19] <\sh> Hobbsee: hmmm..strange
[11:19] <Hobbsee> \sh: very - seems to have been with the latest updates, which i got around...hmmm...12 hours ago?
[11:19] <\sh> Hobbsee: no..I'm running the same...
[11:19] <\sh> Hobbsee: and it's allright
[11:19] <Hobbsee> \sh: have you rebooted?
[11:20] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes :)
[11:20] <Hobbsee> mine was fine before shutting it down too...
[11:20] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[11:20] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ killall kicker && kicker
[11:20] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ grep: /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo: No such file or directory
[11:20] <Hobbsee> grep: /src/*: No such file or directory
[11:20] <Hobbsee> /bin/bash: /bin/awk: No such file or directory
[11:20] <Hobbsee> \sh: are the messages i get
[11:21] <\sh> Hobbsee: hmmm..zoneinfo
[11:21] <Hobbsee> yeah, /usr/share/lib doesnt even seem to exist on my system
[11:21] <\sh>  /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo doesn't exists
[11:21] <Hobbsee> which is why i'm very confused
[11:21] <\sh> and /bin/awk should be /usr/bin/awk
[11:23] <\sh> ah wait a moment
[11:23] <Hobbsee> will do
[11:23] <\sh> I get a new libc6 now...and this could be a problem
[11:23] <\sh> the kde updates have definitly nothing to do with the problem...I blame more libc6
[11:23] <\sh> but I have to be sure 
[11:24] <sealne> uvf isn't this thursday :)
[11:24] <\sh>  * Drop timezones from main libc package.
[11:24] <\sh>   - debian/debhelper.in/libc.install: Drop /usr/share/zoneinfo
[11:24] <\sh>    drop usr/bin/locale
[11:24] <\sh>   - debian/debhelper.in/libc.manpages: Drop locale.1 and localedef.1
[11:24] <\sh>   - debian/debhelper/in/libc.dirs: Add /usr/share/zoneinfo
[11:24] <\sh>   - debian/control.in/libc: Recommends: locales
[11:24] <\sh> yes it's libc6
[11:25] <\sh> that can mean, that we have to rebuild all the things
[11:25] <\sh> Riddell: ping
[11:26] <Hobbsee> oh dear...
[11:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:26] <sealne> Hobbsee: i was just thinking my lack of mouse over on the clock maybe due to turning off the popup stuff in kicker
[11:26] <Hobbsee> sealne: yeah, that'd be it
[11:28] <\sh> ok let me reboot pls :)
[11:32] <\sh> well...it's the clockapplet somehow...because localtime on console is correct
[11:33] <Hobbsee> localetime on console?  which command is that?
[11:33] <\sh> date
[11:34] <Hobbsee> that's screwed on my machine it seems
[11:34] <Hobbsee> its showing UTC time
[11:34] <Hobbsee> wonder what timezone i really am using then....
[11:34] <\sh> shermann@r200:~$ date
[11:34] <\sh> Sun Feb  5 11:34:35 CET 2006
[11:34] <\sh> that's the correct UTC+1 time for germany :)
[11:35] <\sh> but the clock kicker applet shows UTC
[11:35] <\sh> and fires up with the same error as you reported
[11:35] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ date
[11:35] <Hobbsee> Sun Feb  5 10:33:53 UTC 2006
[11:35] <Hobbsee> right
[11:36] <\sh> Hobbsee: less /etc/timezone
[11:36] <\sh> and ls -la /etc/localtime
[11:36] <Hobbsee> no such file or directory x2
[11:37] <Hobbsee> this thing is warped!
[11:37] <\sh> for which one?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> both
[11:37] <\sh> timezone or localtime?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ less /etc/timezone
[11:37] <Hobbsee> /etc/timezone: No such file or directory
[11:37] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ ls -la /etc/localtime
[11:37] <Hobbsee> ls: /etc/localtime: No such file or directory
[11:37] <Hobbsee> this thing is getting weirder by the minute....
[11:38] <\sh> ok.../etc/localtime is a symlink to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney in your case
[11:39] <\sh> so sudo ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney /etc/localtime 
[11:39] <Hobbsee_away> dinner, back soon
[11:39] <\sh> and /etc/timezone should have the content of "Australia/Sydney" without the quotes :)
[11:39] <\sh> but that doesn't fix the clock applet
[11:39] <Hobbsee_away> still no file or dir for /etc/timezone
[11:41] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: sudo vi /etc/timezone and enter Australia/Sydney :)
[11:42] <\sh> I'm checking now why the clock applet is screwing
[11:43] <\sh> or riddell is appearing magically and has a solution in his hand :)
[11:43] <\sh> but I think 10:43am is a hard time after the sprint :)
[11:45] <sealne> is the sprint still going on?
[11:45] <\sh> should be over since yesterday
[11:47] <\sh> and strange his: "adjust date and time" gives me the wrong timezone but the correct time
[12:03] <Hobbsee_away> \sh: yay, then date is working.
[12:05] <\sh> strange
[12:05] <\sh> I don't find any reference to /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo neither to awk in the whole kdebase package
[12:06] <Hobbsee_away> [21:47]  <\sh> and strange his: "adjust date and time" gives me the wrong timezone but the correct time - i get this too
[12:06] <\sh> but it fetches the wrong timezones
[12:07] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: wanna file a bug, or should I?
[12:07] <Hobbsee_away> you can, if you like :)
[12:07] <Hobbsee_away> seeing as i'll get called away at any min
[12:07] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: k..will do
[12:07] <Hobbsee_away> ok, cool
[12:16] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/30546
[12:17] <Hobbsee_away> \sh: should i confirm it on launchpad as well?
[12:17] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: do it then :)
[12:18] <Hobbsee_away> did you write the orig bug report?
[12:19] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: yes :)
[12:19] <Hobbsee_away> ah right
[12:19] <\sh> but I wrote it that you found it first :)
[12:20] <Hobbsee_away> :) done
[12:20] <Hobbsee_away> i saw that
[12:24] <Hobbsee_away> d
[12:25] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: it's your karma :)
[12:25] <Hobbsee_away> ah, good point
[12:25] <Hobbsee_away> so i wont look like such a moron asking simple questions?
[12:25] <Hobbsee_away> speaking of which, who controls getting rid of stuff on REVU?
[12:26] <raphink> siretart
[12:26] <Hobbsee_away> right
[12:31] <\sh> Hobbsee_away: run the MOTU track :) 
[12:34] <mornfall> http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-installer-3.png 
[12:36] <raphink> :D
[12:36] <Hobbsee> \sh: the MOTU track?  that could be interesting...need to learn a whole lot mroe stuff first
[12:37] <\sh> Hobbsee: you will...because you are smart :)
[12:37] <Hobbsee> \sh: thanks :) i feel like such a moron at times though hehe - then again, i've only been using linux at all for around 8 months...
[12:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: so you can't be a moron :) I'm using linux now since 1992/93 and I'm a moron :) believe me :)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> hehe!  yet you seem so smart!
[12:40] <\sh> Hobbsee: I'm old not smart ;)
[12:40] <Hobbsee> how old are you, out of curiousity?
[12:41] <\sh> Hobbsee: 35...
[12:41] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[12:43] <\sh> ok...cu laters..need to do some real life stuff :)
[12:43] <Hobbsee> cya
[12:59] <mornfall> http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-installer-4.png
[01:03] <jsgotangco> wow that's really nice
[02:07] <mornfall> http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-installer-5.png
[02:07] <OculusAquilae> nice
[02:12] <Limulus> hello :)
[02:12] <Limulus> I am having trouble with the KDE 3.5.1 repository
[02:12] <Limulus> specifically, it seems to be lacking lots of i386 packages
[02:12] <Limulus> I wanted to install kdeedu
[02:12] <Tm_T> ok, one issue found in KDE & dapper, looks like only C locale is available
[02:14] <Limulus> but as you can see from http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages
[02:15] <Limulus> packages such as kstars are only available for amd64
[02:16] <Limulus> and PPC
[02:16] <Limulus> are the rest still in testing or such?
[02:17] <Limulus> #kubuntu sent me here to ask :)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Limulus: if Riddell's not answering, then you'll have to wait for a while...
[02:22] <Tm_T> aye
[02:22] <Hobbsee> wonder if this means i'll be sent to compile more stuff
[02:22] <Tm_T> I afraid Riddell found social life
[02:23] <Hobbsee> pft
[02:23] <Hobbsee> social life is overrated
[02:23] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: yeah, but maybe sir Riddell doesn't know it yet
[02:23] <Hobbsee> true
[02:24] <Tm_T> just got scary thought, if he meet a woman!
[02:24] <Tm_T> you know, he forget whole Kubuntu because of her and... no, that can't happen
[02:24] <Hobbsee> no, it cant!
[02:24] <Limulus> Hobbsee: I understand; I'll just leave the computer running and when I wake up the answer (and packages ;) will hopefully be there :)
[02:25] <Hobbsee> he's been idle for 17 hours - he must be having a lot of fun socialising for that long!
[02:26] <sealne> isn't it terrible that he dosen't spend 24/7/365 working on kubuntu :)
[02:26] <Hobbsee> it is!
[02:26] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:47] <Hobbsee> night all...
[02:55] <nlindblad> is there a German around?
[03:30] <Verwilst> hm
[03:31] <Verwilst> i installed amarok-xine
[03:31] <Verwilst> but now it says it can't play mp3's?
[03:32] <Lathiat> use amarok-gstreamer then :)
[03:33] <kozz> do you have libxine-extracodecs?
[03:34] <Verwilst> yip
[03:34] <Verwilst> amarok-gstreamer is gone
[03:35] <Verwilst> ( dapper eh )
[03:37] <kozz> works for me :)
[03:54] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[04:39] <hunger> \sh_away: IIRC /etc/localtime is a symlink...
[05:28] <Tm_T> oh
[05:29] <Tm_T> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8051
[05:33] <Tm_T> has other too that problem?
[05:36] <hunger> How can I force kde to ignore certain files in /usr/share/autostart?
[05:37] <Tm_T> by commenting them out
[05:37] <hunger> Tm_T: Not an option: They are needed for gnome.
[05:37] <hunger> Tm_T: Gnome seems to somehow ignore the kde files in that dir while kde happily starts up the gnome stuff.
[05:38] <Tm_T> no idea then
[05:38] <hunger> Tm_T: How can I force KDE to ignore the gnome-specific stuff?
[06:13] <Riddell> Mez: pong
[06:22] <luka74> Riddell: I have seen you blog about knetworkmanager: any possibility that you would release them as test repository (no support)?
[06:43] <Riddell> luka74: I don't really have time
[06:43] <luka74> Riddell: OK, no problem - I thought if you already had them and would like some testers...
[06:44] <Riddell> I didn't make packages, just compiled it
[06:45] <luka74> question: is it normal that I still do not see any layout on Keyboard Layout (I think this happened after 3.5.1 upgrade)
[06:45] <luka74> should I report a bug?
[06:46] <Riddell> luka74: it's a known problem
[06:46] <Riddell> I'll be looking into it 
[06:46] <luka74> OK.
[07:22] <mornfall> hey Riddell 
[07:24] <mornfall> Riddell: http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-installer-6.png
[09:18] <Limulus> Hi!  Is Riddell available to answer a question?
[09:20] <Limulus> or did I miss him again...
[09:21] <mornfall> last time seen was 18:45
[09:21] <mornfall> 2:30 back
[09:25] <Limulus> er... so in ~5hrs?
[09:27] <teprrr> hmm, btw, why isn't grub selected as default in kdm's config in kubuntu?
[09:28] <teprrr> mornfall, there's no search for that? klistviewsearch :)
[09:28] <teprrr> or is this klistview at all?
[09:29] <mornfall> teprrr: klistview what?
[09:29] <teprrr> mornfall, talking about your screenshot
[09:30] <mornfall> teprrr: ah, nah, klistviewsearch is useless sorry :)
[09:30] <teprrr> hunger, I think in kde you can't ignore gnome stuff
[09:30] <teprrr> hunger, iirc there was some discussion and even patch for this, but it got rejected for some reason.. can't remember why though
[09:30] <mornfall> teprrr: i'll get that done later :)
[09:31] <teprrr> mornfall, heh, okay :)
[09:31] <teprrr> looks cool anyway :)
[09:32] <teprrr> :)
[09:33] <teprrr> but I'd like kde to work like gnome does.. by hiding the gnome entries completely from the menu.. although I think kmenu is useless.
[09:38] <mornfall> http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/adept-installer-7.png :)
[09:42] <OculusAquilae> nice
[09:54] <Verwilst> mornfall: ow? it's starting to become a bit prettier
[09:54] <Verwilst> sweet :)
[09:56] <mornfall> yeah, i still haven't gotten to my waterpipe because still fixing icons
[09:58] <Verwilst> hehe
[09:58] <Verwilst> mornfall: i still don't like the long pushbutton though ;)
[09:58] <Verwilst> it's nice to see apps mature
[09:58] <Verwilst> at first they all look clumsy and ugly sometimes
[09:59] <Verwilst> and step by step, they become prettier and more user-friendly :)
[09:59] <mornfall> Verwilst: check the 1-7 one by one, that's interesting :)
[09:59] <Verwilst> k :)
[10:00] <Verwilst> hehe
[10:00] <Verwilst> i'll be picking up coding again too i think
[10:00] <Verwilst> but then with c#
[10:00] <Verwilst> c#/Qt probably
[10:01] <Verwilst> maybe kimono when it'll advanced enough
[10:01] <Verwilst> +be
[10:01] <mornfall> and +8 up, current status
[10:01] <mornfall> and i'll have my waterpipe
[10:02] <mornfall> 2 days worth of work, i can have my reward
[10:02] <mornfall> Riddell needs to see that
[10:03] <mornfall> and i need to get a decent filter bar for it
[10:03] <mornfall> --> reward
[10:04] <Verwilst> a job well done mornfall ;)
[10:15] <Riddell> mornfall: looking very goovy
[10:15] <Riddell> mornfall: where does it get the list of applications from?
[10:19] <mornfall> Riddell: gnome-app-install's desktop files
[10:20] <mornfall> Riddell: they need to go into a app-neutral package, though, i'd say
[10:21] <Riddell> mornfall: great.  yes, that can be sorted easily enough
[10:21] <Riddell> Limulus: hmm?
[10:21] <mornfall> (same for part of the icons)
[10:21] <Riddell> hello Gaston 
[10:22] <Gaston> Hello.
[10:22] <Limulus> Ah! Hi hi! :)
[10:22] <Limulus> I was on many hrs ago
[10:22] <Riddell> Limulus: what was your question
[10:22] <Limulus> Hobbsee from #kubuntu sent me here to ask you a question
[10:23] <Limulus> where are all the kdeedu i386 packages?
[10:23] <Riddell> amazing how many people miss them
[10:23] <Riddell> answer is I've no idea, they dissapeared
[10:23] <Limulus> !!!
[10:23] <Riddell> but I'll try and make new ones tomorrow
[10:23] <Limulus> Thank you :)
[10:24] <Limulus> I thought I was going nuts
[10:24] <Limulus> I thought I had setup my sources.lsit wrong ;)
[10:24] <Limulus> ^list
[10:24] <Limulus> thanks for the help!
[10:31] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:31] <tsdgeos> the bugger has arrived :-D
[10:32] <tsdgeos> Riddell: did you read my message on #kde-devel ?
[10:32] <Riddell> tsdgeos: I'll try and add kde-i18n tomorrow too
[10:32] <tsdgeos> :-)
[10:32] <tsdgeos> thanks
[10:33] <Riddell> been at a conference all last week and had no fast machine or internet
[10:33] <tsdgeos> ok, did not know if it was due to some problems or just that you as enlgish speaker forgot kde-i18n ;-)
[10:34] <tsdgeos> bye
[11:15] <Mez> Riddell: did you get my msg bout arts?
[11:24] <sealne> hmm i'm still getting errors out of kicker even without xmmskde