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googlahi need it to set up the network.12:01
googlahmenu --> system settings --> network settings --> type in password --> but it doesnt work12:02
stianuhm, what doesn't work?12:03
stiangooglah, does nothing happen after typing in the password?12:03
googlahnope12:03
stianare you typing in the correct password?12:03
stianand, is caps lock on?12:03
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Nomad411thanks murchadh12:04
googlahwhen i press it, it just returns to the normal page again12:04
googlahit doesnt ask me12:04
kernel_i386Nomad411: are you the 'Nomad?12:04
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googlahor sometimes it does12:04
Nomad411yup... shhhhhhhhh  I'm travelling incognito12:04
kernel_i386hehehe12:05
kernel_i386where do you live?12:05
kernel_i386which country12:05
googlahstian, if i go to console and type "su" i should be able to access it, right?12:05
Nomad411Canada, East coast, buy the Atlantic12:05
Nomad411by12:05
kernel_i386cool12:05
googlahwith my user-password?12:05
kernel_i386canada is the "good" u.s.a. :P12:05
stiangooglah, no, su is disabled, use sudo12:05
Nomad411hehehe12:05
Nomad411we try12:05
kernel_i386hehe12:06
kernel_i386that's a good try though :P12:06
stiangooglah, yes your userpassword, there shouldn't be any other password12:06
Nomad411Though the way things are going these days, I wish we coudl break off and move closer to Europe12:06
kernel_i386why?12:06
googlahthe thing is, stian, it says eth0 is disabled. and i want to active it, and i need to type the password. but it doesnt work.12:06
kernel_i386what's going wrong12:06
googlahit's kinda strange.12:06
stianNomad411, are you aware that we are in europe on the way to a big "issue" with muslim people over here? not pretty at all12:07
kernel_i386rofl stian :P12:07
stiandanish/norwegian embassy in syria got burned to the ground tonight12:07
Nomad411I know12:07
kernel_i386america doesn't? :P12:07
stiankernel_i386, yeah, but you guys to that kinda shit all the time, norwegians, we are the nice people ;)=12:07
stiangooglah, then I don't know what is wrong, are you doing "sudo ifconfig up eth0"?12:08
kernel_i386indeed.. but we in germany try to get along with those people.. since we have like almost 20% (feeled) muslims in here12:08
stiangooglah, sorry that should be "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"12:08
googlahok, gonna try12:08
murchadhgooglah: try sudo ifconfig eth0 up with your user password.12:09
murchadhOops too late!12:09
stianhehe12:09
kernel_i386I am watching a tv report about latin america.. they have a life ... sometimes I wish I just would get all my money together and move there...12:09
Hobbseestian: you mean sudo ifup eth0?12:09
kernel_i386I'd be rich over there and could have an awesome life :P12:09
googlahit seems to be up now12:09
googlahi think12:10
googlahwait12:10
Nomad411kernel: Tierra del fuego has always seemed attractive to me..12:10
stianHobbsee, well, that works as well12:10
stiangooglah, do you use dhcp? or static ips?12:10
Nomad411many people make it to there and just live off the beach12:10
Hobbseeah ok12:10
Nomad411Saw a very kewl doc just last year about that12:10
kernel_i386tierra del fuego - where is that?12:10
kernel_i386is it "fireland"?12:10
kernel_i386or "feuerland" as we in germany say12:11
Nomad411the most southern part of South America. :)12:11
googlahit's up, but i need to configure it manually cuz i cant access it through the graphical interface :(12:11
kernel_i386yes.. so it's feuerland12:11
murchadhNomad411: Better weather in South America for a start, European weather ain't all that!!!12:11
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googlahand i dunno how. i know it's in /etc/network/interfaces, but i dunno the parameters..12:11
Nomad411agreed12:11
stiangooglah, ok, as I said, are you using dhcp on your network or are you using static ip's?12:11
murchadhgooglah: try sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.112:11
googlahdhcp.12:11
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stiangooglah, okey, then do "sudo dhclient eth0"12:12
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kernel_i386I wish I could live somewhere there :P I want good weather12:12
kernel_i386beach12:12
stianthen it should get an ip, then try to ping something12:12
stianlike google.com12:12
kernel_i386and a dreamy seashore12:12
stiana dreamy seawhore?12:12
stian:P12:12
kernel_i386hmm.. no12:12
googlahit kinda worked :D12:12
stiansorry12:12
Nomad411hummmmmmm Seawhore..  salty12:12
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kernel_i386hehehe indeed..12:13
stianlol12:13
googlahbut will this get actived everytime i boot from now on?12:13
stiangooglah, great :D12:13
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kernel_i386na.. I am more the monogam type :P12:13
stiangooglah, hmm, I really have no clue12:13
kernel_i386I want one (ok..maybe two..) wives12:13
googlah:/12:13
murchadhstian: You the man, that dhclient eluded me for ages when I moved from WinXP!12:13
stianhehe12:13
Nomad411Like Homer says... "Why must everythign I love catch fire!!??"12:13
googlahallright, gonna make a try, i'll come back stian.12:13
googlahbut thanks for the help so far!12:13
kernel_i386lol12:13
stiangooglah, no worries12:14
googlahappriciated alot.12:14
kernel_i386Nomad411: is it snowing in canada atm?12:14
googlah:)12:14
stian:)12:14
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Nomad411mot here, it's almost summer.  Global warming is screwing it up big time :(12:14
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kernel_i386hehehee Nomad41112:14
Nomad411There shoudl be feet of snow, there's almost nithing12:14
kernel_i386here it is snowing.. but way too late.. I wish we had a white christmas12:15
Nomad411Buy teh DVD12:15
kernel_i386well.. it's not really snowing.. just cold and 1 cm snow12:15
Nomad411Bing Crosby I think ;)12:15
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optotronis there an easy way to reconfigure the x server?12:15
twanI'm looking to install svgalib12:15
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Nomad411!xorg12:15
ubotuI heard xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:15
kernel_i386well.. global warming sucks :)12:15
googlahoh, it wasn't necessary to disconnect on this computer :)12:16
stianhehehe :)12:16
googlahi can stay online and see if it works, hehe12:16
stian:P12:16
kernel_i386I guess we'll never have a warm summer - or the oposite summers like in the desert12:16
googlahmy bad :)  where you from stian by the way?12:16
murchadhAny good channel to help me with a troublesome ntfs drive. Won't mount under Linux, even after re-fdisking it. I think the data is still there as I can see it with some tools off the Ultimate Boot CD, but I have no spare drive to try a spool copy, using these tools.12:16
googlahif i may ask12:16
Nomad411you're where kernel? Germany?12:16
stiangooglah, I'm from norway, how bout you?12:17
googlahhej hej frn sverige12:17
googlahheh.12:17
stianhejhej12:17
optotronthx12:17
stianhppast du inte e muslim, och kommer och brinner mitt hus12:17
kernel_i386yes Nomad411 germany12:17
googlah:D12:17
googlahare you scared by them?12:17
Nomad411many germans in here, I thought Suse was your national Linux! ;)12:18
kernel_i386hehehe12:18
kernel_i386indeed.. :P12:18
kernel_i386it was the first and only popular linux12:18
kernel_i386..still is12:18
Nomad411Suse?12:18
kernel_i386yes12:18
googlahstian, the configuration was not loaded at reboot :(12:18
stianhmm12:18
stian*investigating*12:19
kernel_i386but I know a friend who is into linux and he told me that kubuntu was the better way to do it :P12:19
Nomad411it is ;)12:19
Nomad411for a desktop, can't be beat12:19
kernel_i386he is using gentoo :P that'd be too difficult for me..12:19
kernel_i386kubuntu still is hehehe12:19
googlahstian, ok, i'm now connected again. just need to figure it out how to save the config.12:19
Nomad411gentoo i ssupposed to b eexcellent too12:19
kernel_i386yes.. it is..12:20
Nomad411but Kubuntu had more Ks in the name  hehe12:20
googlahdoes anybody know?12:20
kernel_i386hehehe12:20
kernel_i386what about gnome? is "ubuntu" running with gnome?12:20
googlahi just made a dhcp renewal manually and need this configuration to load at reboot.12:20
kernel_i386isn't it good?12:20
kernel_i386I hear a lot of voices saying "gnome is better than kde"12:20
Nomad411ubuntu is just as great..12:20
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kernel_i386what's about that12:20
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Nomad411voices?  Maybe look at your nutrition, you may be allergic to wheat!  ;)12:21
kernel_i386hehehe12:21
kernel_i386well.. a lot people say gnome / fluxbox is better12:21
kernel_i386dunno if gnome or fluxbox.. is something different or equal .. or dependent :D12:21
Nomad411I had a girlfriend with a fluxbox, I miss her  hehe12:21
kernel_i386hehehehe12:22
kernel_i386what is it..?12:22
stiangooglah, hmm, i'm not really a seasoned kde user, and when running the network config the bottom part of the window is hidden offscreen and I can login as admin, so I am having dificulties figuring it out12:22
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kernel_i386fluxbox - a style for gnome?12:22
stiangooglah, you wouldn't happen to have gnome as well?12:22
kernel_i386a plugin?12:22
stiankernel_i386, no, it's a windowmanager12:22
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murchadhI was using Slackware in 1993 - and it was pretty good. I had trouble getting ygdrassil to work properly.12:22
Nomad411a different windows manager, you can use it on kubuntu if you'd like12:22
Nomad411murchadh: same here12:22
Nomad411Bought it on CDs, they were made out of wood12:23
kernel_i386Nomad411: would it be an alternative to "KDE" then?12:23
kernel_i386or an alternative to konqueror?12:23
Nomad411kernel: alternative to KDM anyway :)12:23
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kernel_i386KDM? :)12:23
stianno12:23
kernel_i386kde  desktop manager...12:23
stiankdm is the login manager12:23
kernel_i386lol12:23
Nomad411oops..12:23
twanmake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/twan/svgalib-1.4.3/sharedlib'12:23
twanmake: *** [sharedlib/libvga.so.1.4.3]  Error 212:23
kernel_i386hehehe12:23
stian:P12:23
twanWhat is that?12:23
kernel_i386what ever12:23
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kernel_i386to what is fluxbox comperable?12:23
stiandunno what the window manager is called in kde, but oh well12:23
Nomad411not that I ever consider myself an expert at anything anyway :)12:24
kernel_i386*comparable12:24
Nomad411!fluxbox12:24
ubotuI heard fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net12:24
kernel_i386hehe Nomad411 you are in my tiny eyes12:24
stiankernel_i386, you see your windows? they have frames around them :) the frames and close/maximize buttons are there because of the windowmanager12:24
Nomad411Not sure what that means.. hehe12:24
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Nomad411Oh I get it..12:24
stianso, you can change you windowmanager, the thing drawing the edges of your windows12:24
murchadhNomad411: You'll be welcome in Europe, well Ireland anyhow. They were made out of recycled Guinness cans here....12:25
kernel_i386coool.. so I will fluxbox install here? ..or is it bad - or does have any disadvantages for me?12:25
stianyou can also run fluxbox alone, without a desktop and startmenu and all that, just a rightclick menu, very simple and pure12:25
Nomad411God I miss Guiness.. I discovered myself to hav eCeliac disease in teh last years.. No more wheat/gluten, etc... No More Guiness.. :(12:25
kernel_i386Guiness is irish12:25
stiankernel_i386, that depends, I would only use fluxbox if i had a really old computer :P12:25
kernel_i386why stian?12:26
Nomad411I always foudn Ireland attractive.. Think I shoudl look for an IT job there?  Is is still in demand?12:26
twanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/801512:26
kernel_i386Nomad411.. hmm.. dunno.. try! I think they pay well..12:26
stianbecaus it's not really made for giving you a desktop feeling, it's made to be small, simple to use, configurable and lightweight (ie. running on old computers)12:26
Nomad411kernel: Sleek und efficient!!  ;)12:26
kernel_i386okay.. so I might use it to .. run my linux @ full speed performance?12:27
murchadhYeah, but you'll be working for yanks. They're our masters now, Intel,MS, HP, Boston Scientific, etc. etc. etc.12:27
kernel_i386hehehe Nomad41112:27
stianI like to have lots of GUI stuff, so I prefer gnome/kde if I can12:27
Nomad411That or strap it to the hood of your sports car12:27
Nomad411KDE will certainly look better if you like that12:27
kernel_i386ok .. so fluxbox can only be used "instead" of kde / gnome...12:27
stiannono12:27
kernel_i386so... ...how can it be "faster" / or be prefered on older pcs?12:28
stianyou can use it instead of kde/gnome, or, you can use it with kde/gnome just replacing their standard windowmanagers12:28
kernel_i386and "with" your system gets slower.. doesn't it?12:28
Nomad411ok,, coudl I say that KDE is the styles, colors, etc.. and that Fluxbox is teh engine that draws it on teh screen?12:28
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Nomad411but it wouldn't draw as nice as what you have now by default12:28
EightiesK!katapult12:28
ubotukatapult is probably an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.12:28
Nomad411katapult is kewl.. :)12:29
kernel_i386okay..12:29
stiankernel_i386, I would think it makes you system a _little_ less slow using kde/gnome with fluxbox12:29
Nomad411and kompos12:29
EightiesKi need it for fc412:29
EightiesKi can'12:29
EightiesKt12:29
stianit will make you system much faster using only fluxbox12:29
EightiesKfind it12:29
kernel_i386Nomad411: what's kompose  - and which plugins are you using @ katapult?12:29
Nomad411there ar eplugins for katapult?12:29
googlahstian, i made it, to make the configuration work at startup. thanks for the help. :)12:29
kernel_i386well.. themes..12:29
kernel_i386however you call them..12:29
kernel_i386"addins"12:30
stiangooglah, great :D12:30
Nomad411kompose allows you to easily see and switch to any windows on your machine that are open, like on the mac12:30
kernel_i386hmm like on the mac?12:30
kernel_i386never worked with a mac..12:30
Nomad411katapult is to easily start apps, by simply typing a few letters of their names12:30
kernel_i386ah.. okay.. sorry12:30
Nomad411!kompose12:30
ubotuNomad411: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:30
kernel_i386I mixed it up..12:30
kernel_i386with..12:30
kernel_i386ehm..12:30
kernel_i386ehm.. that thing that makes things on your desktop which show cpu % space / storage .. and stuff .. in a stylish way12:31
Nomad411kernel: go to http://www.kde-look.org , you'll find all sorts of great things for KDE12:31
Nomad411including kompose probably12:31
kernel_i386yes I know that page12:31
kernel_i386I mean karamba!12:31
kernel_i386:D12:31
Nomad411it'll be better explained there, and with pictures. :)12:31
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Nomad411I don't use superkaramba12:31
Nomad411I tried it for a dock but ended up going back to ksmoothdock12:32
kernel_i386btw ...  @ kde-look.org does not have "fluxbox" - why? when it's "supported" in kde?12:32
kernel_i386ksmoothdock12:32
kernel_i386ok.. if you use that..12:32
kernel_i386I'll try that too12:32
Nomad411fluxbox will come through kubuntu12:32
kernel_i386what does that mean?12:32
kernel_i386"come through"12:32
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Nomad411install from12:33
kernel_i386ok.. so .. consequence?12:33
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Nomad411you can try fluxbox, and if you don't like it switch back12:33
kernel_i386...switch back to "KDE" or to a style "in" KDE12:34
Nomad411A friend of mine is about ready to switch to Kubuntu from Windows, but I have to make hi sEverQuest game work.. What is best, wine?  or qemu with Windows12:34
Nomad411kernel: I'm not very up on desktop stuff..12:34
kernel_i386cadega12:34
Nomad411the best is to google it :)12:34
Nomad411I'm looking for free alternatives.. and legal :)12:35
kernel_i386hehe, yea.. or know someone here who knows better than google12:35
Nomad411!google12:35
ubotuI heard google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.12:35
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kernel_i386has cagega already been cracked for linux?12:35
EightiesK!cock12:35
ubotuEightiesK: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:35
Nomad411google fluxbox12:35
kernel_i386yea.. I know someone who uses fluxbox12:35
EightiesK!yahoo12:35
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, EightiesK12:35
kernel_i386he will show me tomorrow12:35
Nomad411there you go..12:36
kernel_i386has cagega already been cracked for linux? <-- ?12:36
EightiesKsudo apt-get fluxbox12:36
kernel_i386hehe - btw sudo -i <-- what does the -i mean?12:36
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Nomad411try sudo -h12:36
Nomad411just before the i ;)12:36
kernel_i386hhee k12:36
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kernel_i386can't see an explaination?12:37
kernel_i386sudo: Only one of the -e, -h, -k, -K, -l, -s, -v or -V options may be used12:37
kernel_i386usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v12:37
kernel_i386usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 12:37
kernel_i386            { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }12:37
stianI think iptables is ruining my computer :S12:38
stianneither my webserver nor ssh works anymore12:38
stianbut I don't really know if it's iptables12:38
kernel_i386hehe.. yea a friend had that problem :P12:38
Nomad411stian: turn it off and see12:39
stianNomad411, how do I turn off iptables?12:39
Nomad411I used to just go service iptables stop on redhat, it must be close to that here..12:39
Nomad411lemme see12:39
stianoh12:40
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stianthere's something called firestarter installed, remember that12:40
Nomad411yes12:40
stianI think this happened because this was the first reboot after installing that :P12:40
Nomad411I was looking for the service name in init.d12:40
stiannow everything works :)12:40
stianstupid firestarter :p12:40
Nomad411happy happy joy joy!12:40
stianyeah, thanks12:41
Nomad411fire.. it's sooo ohot!12:41
kernel_i386what is firestarter?12:41
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Nomad411do you want to run without a firewall though?12:41
Nomad411!firestarter12:41
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.12:41
Nomad411You gotta learn about the ! kernel  LOL12:42
kernel_i386hehehe12:42
Nomad411!ubotu12:42
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.12:42
kernel_i386okay.. so that's why nobody (incl. me) can't access my vsftpd?12:42
stianhmm, the firewall seems to have decided to only let itself shutoff when firestarter is running :S12:42
Nomad411kernel: No, I'm on your machien right now..12:42
Nomad411watch me open your CD rom12:42
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Nomad411kidding12:43
kernel_i386lol12:43
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Nomad411!whatisthematrix?12:44
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41112:44
Nomad411Damn! That one shoudl be in there :)12:44
mepleanyone know how to get .wmv files working in Kubuntu?12:44
mepleVLX , bleep or kaffeine wont play em12:45
mepleVLC*12:45
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rosemaryis there a command line way to install packages?12:45
stian212:46
stianrosemary, apt-get12:46
stianrosemary, use "sudo apt-get install package"12:46
stianreplacing package with the name of the package :)12:46
rosemarystian thanks - debian-like, should have have thought of that12:46
stian:)12:47
stianvery much so debian like12:47
kernel_i386rosemary's name sounds like a sweet linux girl :P12:47
rosemaryhow do I set root - don't recall doing it during the install?12:47
stianrosemary, there is no root12:47
stianusing sudo, you provide your users password for doing root actions12:47
rosemarystian okay thanks - giving the PC to someone else if I can get modem going, so don't want her to be able to mess with settings etc12:48
stianI have apple stickers, and wanna stick them somewhere, but no surface large enough for it to be cool12:48
stianrosemary, hehe, that's great12:48
rosemarykernel_i386: old enough to be a grandmother :-)12:48
stianhehe :)12:49
kernel_i386ow ow12:49
rosemarystian but first want to get network it with main PC and install xgce12:49
rosemaryxfce12:49
stianoh, hehe12:49
stianthat's what I installed for my mom :P12:50
kernel_i386rosemary: how old? :)12:50
rosemarythis is for my mother too - I gave her a P3 but want that back and will give her this P212:50
rosemarykernel_i386: me - 5412:50
kernel_i386ow ow :)12:50
Nomad411ubotu tell kernel_i386 abotu manners12:50
kernel_i386"never ask a woman for her age"?12:51
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Nomad411kidding12:51
rosemarylol I am past the age of minding!12:51
stianhehehe12:51
Nomad411hehe12:51
Nomad411Any potential grandma that grokks linux is one kewll mama to have around :)12:52
rosemaryjust switching to other pc and kubuntu to try get network going back in a sec12:52
kamerontry to keep it on topic, or go to #ubuntu-offtopic, or #kubuntu-offtopic12:52
stian:O12:52
kernel_i386lol kameron12:53
kernel_i386are you an "op" or "halfop" or something? :P12:53
stianif there was a topic, sure12:53
kameronkernel_i386, do you want to find out, or can you please stay on topic?12:53
kernel_i386I'd like to find out :P12:53
stianhaha12:53
kernel_i386(without being banned)12:53
kernel_i386?12:55
kernel_i386kameron sent me a query message12:55
kernel_i386is he allowed to?12:55
Nomad411I dunno12:55
stianeeh? why should he not be?12:56
kameronlol, why would i not be?12:56
Nomad411ask ubotu.. lol12:56
stianit's a free universe?12:56
kameronand again, kernel_i386 PLEASE take it to #kubuntu-offtopic12:56
Nomad411multiverse12:56
stianindeed12:56
kernel_i386kameron is a real spoiler..12:57
Nomad411well this channel is incredibly useful for technical info and more, I could see it turning into a chat tavern if not kept up12:58
Nomad411would suck to come in here to watch lines after lines of marital trouble stories. :)12:58
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Nomad411when you want to know how to boot!!! :)12:58
stian:o12:59
stianjust start every message with "One time when I was having trouble booting"12:59
Nomad411LOL12:59
Nomad411In band camp!!12:59
stianhehe12:59
stianwe don't have camps in norway01:00
stiannot the way they seem to have it in north america01:00
stianI wish I could have gone to computer camp, band camp, fat camp and such :P01:00
kernel_i386Nomad411: please use #kubuntu-offtopic to talk about behaviour inhere01:01
Nomad411I just did  :)01:01
rosemarywhat's the name of the xfce package to use using apt-get install01:01
stianrosemary, xubuntu-desktop01:02
rosemarystian - thanks, would never have thought of that one.01:02
hawkingif I get the new version of snort and compile from source will it be replaced by the old one or do i have to remove the other?01:02
Nomad411would that be teh ice wm?01:02
hawkingI got the old one from repos01:02
stianrosemary, hehe, it's sort of going to be it's own version, like kubuntu is01:02
rosemarystian - hmm, need to do a heap of reading I think01:03
rosemarywhat about xchat?01:03
stianhmm, just xchat isn't it?01:03
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stianyeah01:04
stianapt-get install xchat should do01:04
kernel_i386is xchat better than konveration?01:04
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Nomad411I liked it01:04
hatake_kakashikernel_i386: different people different tastes :p01:04
stiankernel_i386, yes :) but that depends on what you like. xchat is gnome/gtk, so it's much more snug to use when you are in gnome/xfce01:04
Nomad411but I'm trying to stay with the k-apps to see if it,s better01:04
rosemaryokay apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gives "can't find package"01:05
stianrosemary, okay, then you need to enable the universe repositories01:05
Nomad411yup, just checked, it,s in there01:05
stianrosemary, do you know how to edit your sources.list01:05
rosemarymaybe network isn't working yet - I'll check01:05
rosemarystian no I don't01:05
stianhmm, okay01:05
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stianrosemary, can you use vi or nano?01:06
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rosemarystian I have used vi in the past but am out of practice as have moved house and hardly used computer except to check email01:07
MrJangleshello01:07
rosemarywhat about mc?  Is that installed in default?01:07
stianhmm, no I don't think it is01:07
MrJangleshow do i run as root so i can edit user/group ?01:07
stianif you can do "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"01:08
dark_suicsudo command, MrJangles01:08
stianrosemary, if you can do "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"01:08
dark_suicif you want to do it via systemsettings, kdesu systemsettings01:08
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MrJanglesi'm trying to use the gui for users and groups, its telling me to click "Administartion mode"01:08
MrJangleswhere is that?01:08
MrJanglesk01:08
MrJanglesthanks01:08
hatake_kakashion the bottom, near Apply, etc01:09
stianrosemary, and then press "i" to enter edit mode, you can delete ever pound sign you find, press escape followed by ":wq" and then return01:09
stianrosemary, then apt-get update and you should have access to everything available01:09
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sagarpi downloaded the kubuntu kde 3.5 + koffice 1.5 livecd...and it's in german!01:10
rosemarystian okay I have written that down and will switch and try01:10
unholyrosemary! Have you jumped ship?01:11
unholyWe didn't see each other here :)01:11
unholyOn the ubuntu hardware compatibility list, there is an entry for U.S.Robotics 5410 card. Would someone mind telling me if this entry means it will work after I install from the 600MB CD? Its located here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards01:13
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cesareciao01:15
Hobbseeunholy: assuming that's correct, it'll work just fine01:15
rosemarystian my problem is network not working.  I can ping both ways but can't get google from kubuntu01:15
unholyHobbsee: you mean assuming the details in the entry are correct?01:15
Hobbseeyeah01:16
Hobbseewhich they should be01:16
sagarphow do i change the language in kde to be english?!01:16
stianrosemary, can you ping google?01:16
rosemarystian can't find googles number01:16
stianhmm01:16
unholyexcellent. Thats what it looks like, but it sounded way too good to be true. Very happy :) I wll be wiping Mandriva sometime next week.01:16
stian74.14.207.9901:17
stianthat's google, you can't ping it?01:17
rosemaryunholy another mandriva user leaving?01:17
Red_Herringi find it odd that many people come here to ask about config problems that i figured out by just clicking around01:17
unholyhehe, yes. There are a few of us arent there!01:17
Red_Herringwhat happened to users just exploring their system to find the cause of their problems01:18
Red_Herringim glad to help01:18
Red_Herringbut still01:18
Red_Herringi dont know01:18
Nomad411mandriva has gone downhill?   I used to like it01:18
Red_Herringyup01:18
Nomad411Not enough since I'm here I guess. :)01:18
Red_Herringits suse vs ubuntu01:18
rosemarystian 100% packet loss - maybe a firewall is intalled by deafult?01:18
kernel_i386hehe01:18
unholyNomad411: Mandriva gets better every release. Its excellent actually. But ubuntu seems to have an edge over it for some people.01:18
Red_Herringand ubuntu, when you include kubuntu, is nearly TWICE as big as suse01:18
Nomad411ahhh01:19
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Nomad411I thougt gentoo was teh king of desktops01:19
unholyGentoo is for people who knit their own clothse :)01:19
stianrosemary, hmm, I don't think so, I've never had that problem. How's your network set up? Are you using static ip's or dhcp? Is your dns as it should be?01:19
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jungwhat is the switch i put after a program so i can free up konsole?01:19
Nomad411using win98 on qemu, what is teh best (easiest to setup) way to exchange files with kubuntu?  Can I FTP to my linux box?01:19
unholyjung &01:20
Nomad411jung: free up?  Oh you mean &01:20
jungyea, i'm trying to run deskcal and its freezing up my konsole until i cancel it01:20
Nomad411look into nohup too01:20
Nomad411that ay you can even close the console after01:20
Nomad411ex:   nohup command  &01:21
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Nomad411oops.. konsole01:21
Nomad411:)01:21
jungsweet the "&" after gdeskcal worked01:21
stianNomad411, installing openssh on ubuntu and a scp client on win98 would be easiest in my opinion01:22
Red_Herringaggreed01:22
Nomad411interesting, yup01:22
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Nomad411How do I refer to my linux world though?  I seem to have a 10.x.x.x address inwondows01:23
Nomad411windows01:23
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rosemarystian just looking at system - don't see firewall.  I ran ifconfig eth0 number then route add default gw bumber01:23
Nomad411ummm.. can my virtual windows have a real IP from my network?01:23
stianNomad411, probably, dunno how to do it though, bridged networking I believe it's called01:24
stianrosemary, hmm01:24
slow-motionn801:24
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stianrosemary, do you have dhcp you could try?01:24
mirshwhat do i need to do to dual boot with grub? i've tried editing grub.conf, but i still get no menu when i grub starts (it boots kubuntu directly). i want to be able to choose what linux kernel to boot.01:25
MrJangleshey, whats a good ftp server to use?01:25
mirsh*start grub :D01:25
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mister_robotocan someone tell me if there is one package name to install kde on ubuntu that will pull in almost everything else?01:25
Red_Herringpro ftp01:25
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mister_robotoMrJangles: might want to just go with ssh and forget ftp01:25
stianmister_roboto, yes, kubuntu-desktop01:25
Red_Herringmister_roboto: kubuntu_desktop01:25
Red_Herringor kde01:25
MrJanglesya01:25
Red_Herringbut ya want the kubuntu look, right?01:25
mister_robotostian: Red_Herring: thx01:25
MrJanglesdo browsers support that tho?01:25
Red_HerringMrJangles: yup01:26
mister_robotothat's right, I want to end up with a KDE desktop01:26
rosemarystian - there is no /etc/resolv.conf file01:26
stianhmm01:26
stianthis is a little out of my league though :/01:26
kernel_i386rosemary: maybe /home/user/ .conf ? *G*01:27
rosemarystian just reading notes from setting previous network - I need to copy this pc /etc/resolv.conf file to kubuntu01:27
MrJanglesis there anything i have to do to start it?01:27
MrJanglessorry nvm01:27
unholyIf its any help, my resolv.conf contains just two lines:01:27
unholynameserver 194.168.8.10001:28
unholynameserver 194.168.4.10001:28
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mister_robotoMrJangles: to start ssh you mean?01:28
rosemarykernel_i386: says command not found01:28
rosemaryunholy thanks I'll take a look at man pc also01:29
kernel_i386ok.. sry.. don't ask me .. I am a bloody linux noob01:29
MrJanglesmy ssh is started, i can connect via an ssh client, but i would like to connect with browser ftp to my web server01:29
unholynp01:29
rosemaryunholy I think mine will be nameserver 192.168.1.1 but will lokk01:30
MrJangleshow do i do that?01:30
stianMrJangles, i believe you will have to set up an ftpserer that accepts passive connections01:30
unholyrosemary: cool, okay.01:30
mister_robotoMrJangles: konqueror has it built in (fish protocol)01:30
MrJanglesi want to be able to access it from a windows machine aswell01:31
stianas mentioned01:31
MrJanglesya01:31
MrJanglesmister says i can use ssh tho01:31
mister_robotoMrJangles: other browsers you will need to tell it what the handler program is for that protocol (or find a plugin to do so)01:31
Nomad411thanks for bringing up resolv.conf, I think I just found out why networking has always been slower on my linux box.  I just added the name servers from teh ISP :)01:31
MrJanglesbah, forget it lol, what can i use for an ftp server?01:31
MrJanglesi dont need to be that secure01:32
stianMrJangles, if you just want to access your /home/user directory, you can use WinSCP3 with the same login as when logging in with sh01:32
Nomad411proftpd is good01:32
dell500anyone here know why there isn't a /src/ folder in kubuntu?? trying to install projectM01:32
Nomad411easy to manage01:32
stianssh, it works out of the box01:32
MrJanglesya, i thought about winSCP01:32
Nomad411sftp you mean?01:32
MrJanglesbut i think i would rather stick with an ftp server01:32
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stianokay then try proftpd01:33
rosemaryunholy stian now I see it /etc/resolv.conf needs my isp as nameserver01:33
MrJanglesexcellent01:33
unholygreat01:33
stianrosemary, ah, you got it working now?01:33
MrJanglesty, miser_roboto, stian01:35
MrJanglest01:35
rosemarystian updating as we speak :-)01:36
stianrosemary :)01:36
unholycool :)01:36
rosemaryglad I kept notes from previous set up01:36
stianhehe, I have a whole notebook for stuff like that :P01:37
unholyGlad I logged in or I would be having the same problem next week :)01:37
rosemaryunholy wasn't following before - are you transferring from mandriva?01:37
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unholyrosemary, yes. I've been using it since 9.0.01:37
rosemaryyes - I keep email instructions too01:37
rosemaryunholy -new to linux really started with 10.1 last year and still on 2005, but this looks very good01:38
rosemaryliked apt-get in debian01:38
Nomad411does networking need to be restarted if changes ar emade to resolv.conf?  No huh?01:39
unholyrosemary, I thought you were on it much longer. I remember talking to you about Irish heritage a long time ago.01:39
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rosemaryunholy I did dabble with it a few years ago, but never really got the hang of it and went back to windows01:40
rosemaryunholy then bought new pc two years ago, and dual boot now01:40
rosemaryunholy windows for scanner and family tree records01:41
unholyrosemary oh. Have you heard of Gramps for linux? (family tree software)01:41
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rosemaryNomad411: I didn't restart.  Simply made the /etc/resolv.conf file added the info and connected01:43
Nomad411That's what I thought, good :)01:43
rosemaryunholy yes I have it installed but used to FTM and like the print output better01:44
unholyokay :)01:44
Nomad411is FTM related to RTFM?01:44
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mars!java01:44
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:44
rosemaryNomad411: but I'm pretty green, just following some old email instructions I had from a maling list01:44
unholyWhen someone says RTFM, you say F*** the manual!01:44
mars!javadebs01:44
Nomad411lol01:45
Nomad411ok..01:45
Nomad411thanbks01:45
unholyno problem :)01:45
marshelpful bot :/01:45
Nomad411hehe01:45
Nomad411yes, don't feed it01:45
marsI still dont know what java i need to install to run limewire and azureus01:45
Nomad411I go for the Sun one01:45
Nomad411from their website01:46
Nomad411though I don't know about limewire01:46
Nomad411Blackdown seems to have issues to me01:46
arrinmurrmars: http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb01:47
rosemaryNomad411: I couldn't get blackdown going in mandriva01:47
Nomad411rosemary: me either back then01:47
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Nomad411ok, I have SCP client installed on windows, inside of qemu, but I still don't knwo what to point to to connect to my linux01:48
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rosemaryNomad411: think someone from #mandriva talked me through it in the end01:48
Nomad411rtfm01:48
arrinmurrmars: and after it's installed, you need to run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to choose that the newly installed java should be used by default01:48
rosemaryhope I don't have same problem with kubuntu01:49
unholyI found suns java easy to get going in mandriva.01:49
Lord_Athurwhere are the files of the wiki documentation?, I use dokuwiki01:50
unholySetting up the likes of firefox to acknowlege it wasnt that easy mind you, but the java was there.01:50
Nomad411My god qemu is a complete software  :)01:51
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rosemaryunholy putting in the link was a problem with firefox I think01:52
unholyoh01:52
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unholyyeah, I did so much messing around with flash / java / realplayer that I forget how I actually got them working. This time, Ill keep a notebook.01:53
rosemaryunholy I do have my notes somewhere - just hope I can follow them, but I've written down the above instructions anyway01:54
Nomad411unholy: great idea to keep a log book with each machine01:55
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Nomad411arghh.. compiling qemu to have kqemu seems to be a bit complex.. They hate gcc 4 to start with..   Is there a kqemu already made for the qemu in kubuntu?01:57
Nomad411!kqemu01:57
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Nomad411Why did I even wonder.. Lol01:57
\merrygn8 all01:58
rosemaryinstalling xuntu-desktop now - anyone using it?01:58
Nomad411niht01:58
Nomad411didn't know about it until tonight :)01:59
Nomad411look forward to your feedback though01:59
rosemaryNomad411: xfce?01:59
Nomad411yes01:59
unholyNomad411, yes. And on paper too!01:59
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unholyI've just read a brief article on Ubuntu. The author suggest that its not preferable for people who have been using other distros.http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2006/01/21/ubuntu-is-not-the-only-distro/02:00
unholyIf anyone has nothing better to do that is :)02:01
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rosemaryNomad411: I like it - use it in mandriva and vectorlinux02:01
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rosemaryunholy will take a look while I wait for my download02:02
unholyokay rosemary02:02
rosemaryunholy link not working02:02
unholyhttp://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2006/01/21/ubuntu-is-not-the-only-distro/02:03
unholyTry that?02:03
unholy The first one worked for me there.02:04
rosemaryworking02:04
unholyok02:04
Nomad411funny, they SAY there are other distros, but never mention one that's easier for the avergage user02:04
unholyIf ubuntu uses apt-get, then I dont think its too hard to configure that to install software. Maybe for a totally new user.02:07
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rosemaryNomad411: well so far kubuntu is easy to install packages, but I've only had it 22 hours :-)02:08
rosemaryunholy my main interest will be dependency issues02:09
Nomad411not 22 hours installing I hope..02:09
unholyyes.02:09
rosemaryNomad411: nope! :-)02:10
unholyWhen people say "an rpm based" distro, does that include .deb files?02:10
Nomad411nope02:10
LeeJunFanHard to use is a relative term. After using linux almost soley for the last 9 years I find windows difficult to use.02:10
unholyGood.02:10
rosemaryunholy probably my main issue with mandriva02:10
unholyme too.02:10
Nomad411rpm is it,s own thing, BUT you can use them here normally, using "alien"02:10
mister_robotounholy: you think adept or synaptic is hard for new users?02:10
rosemaryunholy think they are two distinct systems for packaging02:11
unholyrosemary: I wanted to remove a fax program or something, and it wanted to remove loads of unrelated stuff like audio drivers before it would let me do it.02:11
unholymister_roboto: I've never used them. The article seems to think its an issue when trying to configure other sources I presume.02:12
unholy*article=author.02:12
rosemaryseems as though ubuntu and kubuntu make their own packages for heaps of commonly used applications02:12
unholyyes02:12
rosemaryunholy yes - same with installing, and urpmi didn't always do what it should02:12
unholyI've searched for all the apps I use, and theyre all there. Even odd ones like kxdocker.02:13
mister_robotounholy: seems easier to me than tracking down windows software over the net :)02:13
rosemaryunholy in kubuntu?02:13
mister_robotounholy: and safer02:13
Nomad411I've never missed anything having switched to Ubuntu02:13
Nomad411quit ethe opposite :)02:13
unholyrosemary: yes, theyre all there for kubuntu. I just googled "appname ubuntu"02:13
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unholymister_roboto: well, youre definately installing to a nicer environment.02:14
rosemaryunholy: I have to confess I haven't done a lot of reading yet.  Got it because thought it would go onto this older P202:14
unholyI see.02:14
rosemaryNomad411: how does it go dual booting do you know?02:14
Nomad411very well02:14
rosemaryunholy - good idea, I'll try that02:15
Nomad411and for those that install windows after linux..  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:15
unholyrosemary: I know that when you go to install SimplyMEPIS, it reccomends the 2.4 kernel for older hardware and 2.6 for the newer hardware. But I really dont know anything beyond that :)02:15
unholyNomad411: Excellent! I can never help people with that problem.02:16
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rosemaryunholy: I have tried simplyMEPIS but haven't got my notes handy02:16
rosemaryunholy: I have tried simplyMEPIS but haven't got my notes handy02:17
unholyah :)02:17
unholyah :)02:17
rosemaryI think the time is coming when I will recover more of my windows partiton and reinstall whatever linux I decide to use02:17
rosemaryunholy it is supposed to be very good02:18
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unholyrosemary: I ran the livecd once on my laptop and liked it. But my cdrom is faulty so I couldnt spend much time with it.02:20
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Nomad411is anyone here using kqemu?02:21
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Nomad411i used the script to install/compile and it ended up with an eror loading the module.. I wonder if it,s normal02:21
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rosemaryunholy: for some reason my notes are minimal - found them.  Didn't keep it long at all02:22
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unholyrosemary: Thanks anyway. You've certainly done the rounds as well. At this stage I dont mind putting time into getting it working, but I want it to get working and stay working. I could never get what I wanted 100% in Mandriva so hopefully a month or two on kubuntu will sort me out.02:24
[g2] is there the equivalent of a kubuntu debootstrap ?02:25
Nomad411unholy: great start  --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/02:25
unholyCheers Nomad411!02:25
unholyWhat OS had you before this Nomad411 ?02:26
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rosemaryunholy: part of it for me is supportive community as well.  I am not linux knowledgabel enough to be able to figure things out from the RTFM suggestion always02:28
Nomad411I started with Slackware, then had the obligatory redHat for a long time, then discovered Mandrake, tried various BSDs, and of course always had all the needed windows for work02:28
blackflaghello all02:28
Nomad411switched to Ubuntu one day, was intrigued by teh name, then found that I coudl get KDE by going Kubuntu, an dhere I am..02:28
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Nomad411My Windows machien died yesterday, and I don't think I care.. ;)02:28
unholyLOL02:29
Nomad411especially now that qemu allows me to run win98 in a VM so that i can check my webpages against IE 602:29
unholycool! Whats the performance like? Or have you used it yet?02:29
Nomad411I'll be gettin gthe CPU from the windows box an dupdating this one02:29
blackflagCan someone tell me how I could tell apache2 to diplay a "bin"- file ina browser?02:29
Nomad411I am using it now, it's useable, but not a racer02:29
unholyright02:30
blackflagDoes someone know what I have to add to DirectoryIndex?02:30
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Nomad411that's why I just added kqemu (Speed boost) and taht,s where I am now, just finished recomoiling02:30
Nomad411qemu is free and open, kqemu is free and closed02:30
unholyI see.02:30
unholyInteresting though. Windows98 can be handy.02:30
Nomad411blackflag: display?02:30
unholyAnd its lightweight.02:30
Nomad411yup02:30
blackflagWhat I mean is02:31
unholyActually, I liked ME a lot.02:31
Nomad411blackflag:  directory listing?02:31
blackflagyou can tell to apache2 what kind of files should be displaed in a browser02:32
Nomad411as in parsed and displayed?02:32
blackflagindex.php , index.html......02:32
Nomad411your bin file will be listed?02:32
Nomad411ohh ok..02:32
Nomad411it,s in mime.types02:32
Nomad411coudl be found in /etc directly I think02:32
Nomad411 let me go check to be sure02:32
Nomad411do you mean that .bin is a text file for your system?02:34
blackflagno, I installed mailman02:34
Nomad411oh..02:34
blackflagand I dont have a webgui02:34
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Nomad411it's to interact with mailman?02:35
blackflagwhen I browse to domein.tld/mailman/create02:35
Nomad411web interface?02:35
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Nomad411haven",t used mailman in a while.. :(02:35
blackflagthen I can download a file but it should be  a website displayed02:35
blackflagso its a apache2 issue02:36
Nomad411I must b esleepier than I thought, I don,t get it..02:36
blackflagI googled but cant find a solution02:36
rosemaryhope the 3Gb hard drive is going to be enough02:36
Nomad411so, .bin is actually what, php code?  perl?02:37
blackflagdont know its a mailman file02:37
Nomad411brb02:37
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unholyrosemary, you'll have to stay away from multimedia I guess, but the distro is on a 600MB CD so I guess youll be okay for productivity.02:38
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Nomad411blackflag: can you give me the URL to check?02:39
Nomad411I think it's a setting up cgi-bin from mailman02:40
Nomad411to be recognized by apache02:40
rosemaryunholy: but should be enough for email and browsing02:40
unholyrosemary definately.02:41
rosemaryunholy: that's all that's needed for my mother02:41
unholyExcellent, thats perfect for her I guess. Will she be using dialup or broadband connection?02:42
Nomad411rosemary: You coudl have made it a LiveCd machien and used the 3 Gb for data :)02:42
unholyNomad411 is on the ball :)02:42
rosemarydialup connection, broadband is still pretty expensive here.  I am still on dialup also.  There's talk it will get cheaper this year02:43
unholyMind you, on a p2 Id say the CD would be painfully slow.02:43
Nomad411yes thre is that02:43
rosemaryNomad411: it's quite slow02:43
Nomad411but once booted, leave it be :)02:43
Nomad411yes I guess so02:43
Red_Herringoooooooo, i just finished hl2!02:43
Red_Herringthats a good game!02:43
Nomad411lol, I still have to play it.. Waiting for it to go down enough in price.. I hate paying $60 when it falls to $10 a few years later02:44
unholyNomad411: That reminds me of when we had to get up an hour before the alarm clock to heat the water.02:44
rosemaryNomad411: :-) don't think she'd be happy doing that.  Actually I haven't had any emails from her, so don't think she's actually using the machine I gave her02:44
Nomad411It was beautiful02:44
unholy:)02:44
Nomad411loking02:44
Red_HerringNomad411: the game?02:44
unholyrosemary: what are they charging roughly for broadband? Just curious.02:44
junganybody know if konversation comes with a transparency setting?02:44
rosemaryunholy anything from about NZ$39 upwards I think, but will just check02:45
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blackflagno,sorry, in the moment it is on testsystems in a lan02:46
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Nomad411jung: maybe using QT configuration02:46
unholyrosemary: If thats per month, its cheaper than here.02:46
Red_Herring4000kbs02:46
Red_Herring(.5MB a second)02:46
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rosemaryunholy: what about exchange rate?02:47
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rosemaryjust checking my ISPs rates02:47
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unholyWell, line rental for the phone is seperate anyway, but we pay about ?35 per month for a 2meg line. Thats about $70 for you.02:48
_mars_Hi I need to put some files from /usr/lib to other but i cant cause it says that i am not root. How to login as root and do it?02:48
rosemaryunholy: I think maybe 39.95, but will make sure.  Set up fees as well02:48
Nomad411blackflag: Does thsi help?  http://freemars.org/howto/mailman.html   Look at the apache2 configuration02:48
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unholyrosemary: I live with two more nerds so it works out at ?10 per month each, or 20 of your dollars. Its okay. I use it a LOT ;)02:49
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_mars_?02:50
Nomad411_mars_: !sudo02:50
Nomad411!sudo02:50
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:50
unholyjung: I dont think so , but kopete does as far as I know.02:50
unholyjung: kopete supports IRC too by the way.02:50
jungunholy thanks02:50
Nomad411unholy: does it do irc well though?02:51
_mars_Yes but what is a command to move catalog to other place?02:51
Nomad411I shoudl try it, curious to see irc in a messenging client02:51
rosemaryunholy I am very tempted to get this winter, instaed of pay television02:51
jungi don't think so02:51
unholyNomad411: Its handy as hell. Kopete also has a skype plugin, so that means I dont need xchat or skype cluttering up my screen (although you do need skype installed).02:52
Nomad411_mars_: what,s "catalog"?02:52
unholyjung: It was a feature in the last version, but it didn't work. I would assume they have it fixed by now.02:52
Nomad411really?  Well I'm tryign it then.. I can't use skype, I have a weird feedback loop where people hear themselves even though I use headphones02:52
jungunholy i can't find it if they do have it02:52
unholyjung: Thats assuming youre using kde3.502:52
junghow do i find out what version of kde i'm using?02:53
unholyclick the launcher (start button). Its on the side of the menu.02:53
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jungall it says is kubuntu02:53
_mars?02:53
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jung5.1002:53
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unholyjung: right click on the panel and go "panel menu" -> "help" -> "about kde"02:54
Nomad411damn!! Kopete is another app that segment faults since I got 3.5.102:54
jung3.4.302:54
Nomad411:((((02:54
jungshould i upgrade it to 3.5?02:54
rosemaryunholy is skype easy to install and get working?02:55
jungare there any advantages to upgrading?02:55
unholyjung: same as me so. I can show you where the setting is (although it doesnt work).02:55
kernel_i386hey02:55
_marsI need to put files from /usr/local/lib to /usr/lib but i dont know what command schould i use in command line as a root02:55
unholyrosemary: its the easiest app I have ever installed or used :)02:55
kernel_i386how can I find out which styles I used last installation?02:55
kernel_i386Red_Herring: here?02:55
hatake_kakashi_mars: copy or move?02:55
Nomad411_mars_: sudo mv    ?02:55
yobroboheres a command to set your root password      sudo passwd root02:56
kernel_i386Nomad411: :D02:56
unholyjung: run kopete and go to the settings tab and select "configure kopete"02:56
rosemaryunholy: what about the microphone etc heard that can be difficult to get going02:56
Red_Herringhere02:56
kernel_i386how can I find out which styles / themes I used?02:56
hatake_kakashianyone got samba sharing ntfs partition?02:56
kernel_i386coz I dunno which I installed last time..02:56
unholyrosemary: you can buy an "official" headset, but I just use headphones. Thatway you dont get feed back through whatever microphone you use.02:56
Red_Herringkernel_i386: look under systemsettings --> apperence --> themes02:56
jungunholy ok im there02:56
unholyYoure typical cheap internet mic is fine.02:57
unholyjung: click on Appearance and the "chat window"02:57
unholyjung: see down the bottom?02:57
kernel_i386well.. and then? ... I don't have them "installed"!.. and I don't know the name of it..!02:57
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rosemaryunholy: separate headphones and mic?  I did buy a combination set but my son comandeered it :-)02:57
jungyes i see it02:57
kernel_i386so how can I find out which one I had .. I have a backup of my old home dir02:57
Red_Herringhmmm02:58
Red_Herringwierd02:58
Red_Herringi went to kde control center02:58
Red_Herringand appearance and themes02:58
unholyrosemary: hehe. Well, I use a laptop. The mic is builtin, and sometimes I connect to PC speakers. But I think the problems people are having is actually feedback. Which is a sound thing.02:58
Red_Herringand theme manager02:58
Red_Herringand i can instlal themes02:58
unholyrosemary: I highly reccomend skype. Especially since you can use it through kopete.02:59
kernel_i386Red_Herring - I know - but if you forgot "which" theme you had installed before.. it's not that easy :)02:59
mars_hatake_kakashi: copy02:59
Red_Herringtrue02:59
yobrobo_mars, here's a command to set your root password      sudo passwd root02:59
Nomad411skype is excellent02:59
jungare any of you running any themes for KDE?02:59
Red_Herringi really like baghira02:59
Red_Herringits OSX02:59
unholyrosemary: mind you, I think for conversations you really need a better connection than dialup.02:59
Red_Herringbut its a memory hog02:59
kernel_i386ah.. I think I got it..03:00
Nomad411yobrobo: I think it's not recommended to use root directly03:00
hatake_kakashimars_: sudo cp -Rv /usr/local/lib /usr/lib03:00
kernel_i386mine is called System++03:00
Nomad411yup, baghira here too03:00
kernel_i386System++ rulez03:00
Nomad411System++ is a theme?03:01
kernel_i386and which font are you using ?03:01
yobroboyes I tend to be more direct03:01
kernel_i386dunno Nomad411 ... it's window decoration ..03:01
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rosemaryunholy: yes - just need others to set it up too03:01
rosemaryunholy: my ISP $43.95/month 3Gb or 49.95 for 6 Gb03:01
Red_Herringwow, baghira is a memory hogging bastard child03:01
unholyThats true. I have a friend doing an internship in France so I can talk to him for hours now for nothing :)03:01
kernel_i386rosemary: your isp sucks03:02
kernel_i386yes Red_Herring .. I expierenced that03:02
Nomad411Red_Herring: If yuo knwo anythign that looks as nice and uses less memory, I'll want to hear03:02
_mars_When i use cp it says that it mises firdt location03:02
kernel_i386after the switch to system++ my system was like 20% faster :D03:02
Red_HerringNomad411: im on it03:02
Nomad411kernel_i386: can't find system++   any links?03:03
kernel_i386hmm..03:03
kernel_i386it's here :D03:03
kernel_i386haven't found it on google.. neither03:03
rosemarykernel_i386: broadband is still expensive here in NZ03:03
unholyrosemary: your ISP charges less than they do here. Thats just over ?20 per month for a 3 meg line.03:03
kernel_i386NZ?03:03
kernel_i386new zealand03:03
rosemarythere's set up costs also03:04
rosemaryand modem03:04
unholyoh. Yeah, most of them dont charge for those anymore.03:04
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unholyYou can opt to install yourself here, then theres no charge. Installation just means connection the router/modem to the phone line.03:05
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kernel_i386has nobody else "system++" in appearance - window decoration manager?03:05
rosemarymy ISP does but looking at some other options now - slow because doing the xububtu-desktop install on same line03:06
unholyouch!03:07
rosemaryI've heard that there's another company ofering cheaper braodband but not sure which one03:07
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rosemaryunholy talks about doing something to the phone line, and then need splitters on every telephone jack, but they are not expensive03:08
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unholyrosemary: okay, it must be different there. Here its like connecting an answering machine between youre phoneline and telephone.03:10
unholyOh, sorry!03:10
unholysplitters! :)03:10
Nomad411kernel: I don't03:10
unholyrosemary: the splitter is to stop the phone interfering with the broadband (or vice versa).03:11
unholyIt basically like those adapters that let you plug two sets of plugs into the one socket.03:12
rosemaryunholy it may be that I can do it myself, sometimes the companies have these offers but don't mention the DIY option03:13
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apappuHello All03:14
Nomad411hey!03:14
apappuI was trying to compile qt 3 when I am getting this error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu03:14
apappuany help03:14
unholyrosemary: I promise you can do it :)03:15
apappuhow03:15
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Nomad411apappu: dunno03:16
Nomad411:)03:16
unholyrosemary: theres a blurb on it here http://www.filesaveas.com/broadband.html03:16
apappucan any one helo me with tihs error /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu03:16
unholyrosemary: no use to you now really , but it might give you an idea of how simple it is.03:17
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rosemaryunholy okay will bookmark and read03:18
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rosemaryunholy what sorts of things do I need to look for when choosing.  Have heard there is some pitfalls regarding the amounts03:19
Nomad411apappu: Found this..03:19
Nomad411I just checked out from cvs and had the same problem, even when compiling the main modules (I am running SuSE 9.3). The library libXmu.a is located in /usr/X11R6/lib. There is probably an elegant way to add this to the library paths in the make file configuration, but I solved it by making a link to /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.a in /usr/lib.03:19
Nomad411at http://www.jahshaka.org/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=45&page=viewtopic&t=367&sid=4bd5978987953b6db5d2942ba4265bed03:19
unholyamounts of what rosemary?03:19
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Nomad411apappu: read the page for which I sent a link, there may be more to be done03:20
unholyrosemary: you mean money-wise or bandwidth?03:20
camohehe.. im using ubuntu, but i installed KDE.. is that the same thing?03:21
BOZZYJust a quick question...  If you have an already existing linux distro, in my case it's OpenSuse, is it possible to install Kubuntu over OpenSuse and still have my Windows XP working, with a lilo boot screen also available?03:21
unholyBOZZY: And overwrite the opensuse? Sure its easy. Just use the same partitions when installing the new one. Double check on the winXP though.03:22
rosemaryunholy: both - the likely amount of bandwidth I'd need03:23
BOZZYthanks unholy... just worried about the XP though since my pops uses it :)03:23
unholyrosemary, you only need 1MB.03:23
unholyrosemary: That was all we had in IRE for a year or so. They upgraded the lines to 2MB, and I swear, no one noticed the difference.03:24
unholyrosemary: unless you want to download movies or something.03:24
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rosemaryunholy: here's a better offer http://www.orcon.net.nz/products/bitstream/residential03:25
unholyrosemary: thats okay. But you have to buy all the hardware youreself. Theyre probably cheap though.03:27
unholyrosemary: thats not too bad, but dont stop looking yet.03:27
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rosemaryunholy: free modem offer at present, but still the line enabling fee03:28
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rosemaryunholy: actually no that's free also at present - hmmm03:30
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unholyrosemary: Here, when I call a new ISP, they tell me on the phone if DSL is enabled in my area. For example, if your neighbour has it, then you probably have it. DSL is just a modification to the regular phone line to make broadband possible.03:31
unholyrosemary: thats not bad then.03:31
rosemaryunholy: yes they're waiving set up fees03:31
rosemarythat's a bit of a trick then isn't it?03:31
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unholyrosemary: It seems that way. I might not be bang on there, but I know that DSL is enabled at your local exchange that server your area, not your house specifically.03:33
unholy*server - serves.03:34
rosemaryunholy: seems like a way of keeping tabs to make more money, and then use it to hook customers when offering it for free03:35
rosemaryI am extremely tempted - means changing email address again though03:36
Red_Herringchecking out themes, hafta log off03:36
unholyrosemary: also check the contract. I'm in with these guys for a year regardless.03:36
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Nomad411get a fixed email address somewhere, then redirect to whatever ISp you use, that's what I,ve been doin gfor yers03:36
Nomad411years03:36
unholyrosemary: It shouldnt mean changing address, unless your email was with your last ISP.03:36
unholyor just use an email client to work with a fixed address. Forget the ISP.03:37
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Nomad411I need a module to be loaded at boot, where do I put it?  I can't find an rc.local by the way, is it used ?03:39
rosemarysounds a bit complicated to me :-) to use email client and fixed address03:39
debianloggeranyone not speaking english or german around?03:39
unholyrosemary: hehe, if you want a gmail invite ill send you one. Its dead easy to point kmail to it. You can change ISPs and Distros to your hearts content then :)03:40
Nomad411debianlogger: How would they understand your english?03:41
Nomad411:)03:41
debianloggerah, that's a point ;-)03:41
Nomad411debianlogger: are you looking for a spceific language to speak with?03:42
rosemaryunholy: I have gmail already, but use Thunderbird03:43
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debianloggerbr or ca or cy or da or es or et or eu or fr or hi or hu or is or it o ja or nb or nl............03:43
marsHi what is a command to move file from one place to another?03:43
Nomad411lol, ok03:43
mars?03:43
Nomad411I'm ca-fr03:44
unholyrosemary: And Thunderbird works with your gmail okay?03:44
unholymars: mv03:44
marsMy thunderbird works great with gmail03:44
rosemaryunholy: no I simply use firefox for that03:45
rosemarymost of my email is my ISP one03:45
unholyrosemary: You'll never look back once you set it up. :) Its really easy too.03:45
unholyrosemary: didnt you write a few help articles for Mandrake a few years ago? Just occurred to me there.03:46
debianloggeralready solved the problem03:47
rosemarydoing this install is proof that I need broadband!03:47
kernel_i386somebody here who uses vsftpd?03:47
jungis there any way to disable the kde panel?03:48
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unholyjung: as in not have it at all?03:48
jungyea or hide it03:49
jungi downloaded some plastic taskbar for superkaramba03:49
unholyjung: you can hide it easily by right clicking and configureing it.03:49
jungunholy k, thanks i'll try that03:49
unholyjung: np03:49
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rosemaryunholy no must have been someone else - I did add some stuff to the twiki about my camera or something though03:51
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unholyrosemary: maybe that was it.03:52
Nomad411kde panel:  kicker?03:52
Red_Herringyup03:52
Red_Herringto restart it: killall kicker, kicker03:52
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rosemaryunholy probably that or card reader03:52
Nomad411yes, just hide it. If it's liek ksmoothdock, if you kill kicker, you look your menu in teh dock as well03:53
kernel_i386Nomad411: are you using vsftpd?03:53
Nomad411How do i have a module be loaded at boot (kqmenu), do I add it to /etc/modules.conf?03:53
Red_Herringi like the crystal window boarder03:53
Nomad411kernel_i386:  Nope, proftpd03:53
Nomad411!module03:53
ubotuNomad411: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:53
Nomad411!modules03:53
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41103:53
unholyrosemary: It was a fuji wasnt it :)03:53
kernel_i386Red_Herring: you?03:53
Nomad411!modules.conf03:53
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41103:53
Red_Herringkernel_i386: what03:54
kernel_i386vsftpd03:54
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Red_Herringhm, never tried it03:54
Nomad411arggg.. found it.. The queivalent of rc.local03:54
Red_Herringi always used proftp03:54
Red_Herringpftpd03:54
marsI have wine and wine tools and i have ragnarok online on hd. How to run it?03:54
kernel_i386pftpd is better than vsftpd?03:55
rosemaryunholy no sony camera and I can't remember the card reader - don't actually the reader anyway :-)03:55
unholyrosemary: hehe, okay. I dont know how I saw it so.03:55
Nomad411well good nigth all, it was fun ;003:56
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rosemaryunholy think I'm going to do the broadband thing - only another $15/month03:56
zblachweird thing. I have a cd that i am unable to mount.03:56
zblachi can get it in windows/03:57
zblachwhy not here?03:57
zblachor, is there a work around/03:57
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unholyrosemary: I think its well worth it. the installation is simple in my experience (Ive been with 3 ISPs - I know, Im a slut).03:58
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_icehow the hell do you un mount in ubuntu ?03:58
_iceI tried un-mount03:58
_iceun_mount03:58
_iceunmount03:58
_icenothing works03:58
_iceanyone around03:59
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unholyrosemary: the only thing to do is check out the actual ISP, make sure theyre not assholes. There are a few here. when things go wrong they become more distant.03:59
Red_Herring_ice: umount03:59
_iceahh04:00
_iceok04:00
_icethx04:00
Red_Herring:-D04:00
_icegetting premission errors with k3b04:01
Red_Herringsudo04:01
_iceand I can't k3bsetup2 to work04:01
Red_Herringor kdesu04:01
_icesays none of my cdroms are mounted ?04:01
_icehow can i fix this with k3b04:02
Red_Herringumount /dev/cdrom?04:02
rosemaryunholy this ISP won the Netguide award last year04:02
unholyrosemary: We have a forum in ireland called boards.ie. Theres a comms/broadband section where everyone rated the different companies.04:03
unholyrosemary: Thats pretty auspicious :)04:03
_iceumount: /dev/scd0 is not mounted (according to mtab)04:04
rosemaryI know of another ISP which had some bad press on the LUG mailing list04:04
_iceand my dvd burner is sg004:04
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unholyrosemary: I dont think those guys are wise to the mailing list / forum thing. They can be blacklisted in a matter of days :)04:05
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_iceand everytime  I use the dvdrom drive my only drive ... konquerer comes up with media:cdrom0 not connected ?04:06
Red_Herringwhat do i do with .ktheme files?04:06
Red_Herring!ktheme04:06
ubotuRed_Herring: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:06
Red_Herring!.ktheme04:06
ubotuRed_Herring: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:06
zblachlolol!04:07
Red_Herringdammit04:07
Red_Herringseriously, what do i do with .ktheme files?04:08
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rosemaryunholy just wondering if there will be a problem with the adsl modem.  It is usb - waiting for the information page to load04:09
unholyrosemary: its usb but it should have an ethernet connection also.04:10
unholyUsb usually means ethernet and usb, whereas ethernet means jsut ethernet.04:11
rosemaryunholy it has an ehternet connection - does that mean I can connect to ethernet switch?04:11
rosemary:-) crossed messages04:11
rosemaryunholy could you check this for me please http://dynalink.co.nz/modemsadsl_cur.htm?prod=RTA132004:12
Red_Herringanyone, what do i do with .ktheme?04:12
rosemaryso I would plug it into the Uplink port?04:12
unholySure Ill check it. If it has ethernet, then you connect your network card to it with an ethernet cable. The you connect the modem to your phone line vi the filter.04:13
unholyrosemary: That seems quite good.04:16
rosemaryunholy okay that's using the cables with the larger connectors on it via the three box port04:17
rosemaryunholy that's the free modem offer so will go with that.  Can use the ethernet port04:17
unholythats perfect.04:18
unholyI uninstalled the gimp earlier...I was gonna draw a picture.04:18
rosemarygimp seems to need a lot of learning04:19
unholyYou cant just draw a circle. Thats the big shock.04:20
unholyTheres a free book on it actually. Its very good.04:20
unholyhttp://manual.gimp.org/en/04:20
unholyI'm actually confusing that with the book on blender, but its still good.04:21
unholyGoodnight folks. Its after 3am here so I'm going to sleep :)04:25
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rosemarynight unholy04:31
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humboldtI want to downgrade a lib and everything that depends on it!04:31
humboldtapt wants to deinstall all and everything instead04:31
humboldtHow to convince it otherwise?04:31
kernel_i386could anybody help me with vsftpd?04:33
kernel_i386it won't run ..04:33
kernel_i386http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/53952204:33
kernel_i386that's the config..04:33
kernel_i386do I have to do something with "Iptables"?04:33
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pr1rhey does anyone know a program similar to acid or fruity loops... for linux04:37
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junganybody know how to put the time prompt in eterm?04:37
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restagneranybody have any luck printing from WindowsXP to a Linux box using CUPS?04:45
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jonathonHello, I had a gcc error and tried to remove gcc to reinstall it; I stupidly did not check the preview in adept, and it went ahead and uninstalled all sorts of packages04:50
jonathonis there any way i can install all default kubuntu packages?04:50
jungreinstall gcc?04:50
jonathonreinstall ALL default kubuntu packages04:50
jonathoni got gcc reinstalled04:50
jungsorry don't know04:51
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jonathoni think my only option may be to reinstall the whole os :(04:51
jungprobably04:51
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jonathonwell ... be back in an hour or so :(04:53
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the System, Trash and Home icons on the desktop like stock kde?05:26
OddAbe19is there a way to show the System, Trash and Home icons on the desktop like stock kde?05:30
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the System, Trash and Home icons on the desktop like stock kde?05:51
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josefirefox closes when i enter into a page that has flash animations, although i suposedly installed the flash plugin. can anyone help me?05:59
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yonkeltronwill dapper drake have kde 3.5 in it?06:05
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mikehey06:22
mikeI'm having problems running GUI programs as root06:22
mikethe popup dialog (kdesu) doesn't accept my pass, although  I can use 'su' just fine06:23
_vandalyour root pass is the same pass as your user you created during install06:25
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_vandalmike: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?highlight=%28root%2906:26
Kamping_Kaiserand if you enabled root (or ran automatix) you might have broken the gui tools, which don't like a root user06:28
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mikei did the expert install and i made a root pass on install06:31
_vandaldid you also make a user?06:31
mikeyes06:31
_vandalcause i bet it wants that password06:31
_vandalin the GUI06:31
miketried06:31
_vandalwell there are instructions on there06:31
_vandalto put it back06:31
_vandalalthough i enabled my root user06:31
_vandalbut left the gui to take my users password06:31
_vandaland all works well06:31
mikei'm running a seperate X session as root and using adept that way06:34
mikei'll mess with it all later06:35
rosemarycan you set a root password after install is finsihed?06:35
_vandalyes06:35
_vandalscroll up for my link to the wiki06:35
rosemaryokay - I have that link bookmarked06:37
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_vandalcoo06:41
hatake_kakashianyone know what's gam_server ?06:43
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Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: it's a file monitoring daemon06:44
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: for monitoring changes to files?06:44
Kamping_Kaiseryeh06:45
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: hmm ok, thanks06:45
Kamping_Kaiseris it not letting go of files again?06:45
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Arcanimus:\06:48
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: nfi, its laggy, using 10% of cpu.. I noticed that a little more often when I tried to edit a file with vim through konsole.. and that's after using kpersonalizer06:48
Kamping_Kaiserhm.06:48
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: just kill it and it should restart and be good again'06:48
Kamping_Kaiserwell, did for me06:48
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: lol, I have killed it a couple of times already, I've even sent the killall command for gam_server and yet it still uses 10%.. hmm06:49
Kamping_Kaiserhm. it should dies and restart, but behave. if it doesnt id look at it further06:49
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: yeah.. that's what I'm thinking of doing after I have done prelink06:51
Kamping_Kaiserjj06:51
Kamping_Kaisermm06:51
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: andyway thanks for the info, I'll try and look into more detail later06:51
Kamping_Kaisernp. gl06:51
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hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: ta, will need it :) and btw.. do you happen to know how to set the computer on boot to automatically get an ip address? I mean I chose the setup the network later, but I couldn't get around doing so, unless if I start hacking away at those init.d scripts, I have no other way, do you happen to have clues?06:53
nomasteryoda|wso is anyone having good luck running kubuntu dapper-drake?06:53
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Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: open up the network config file and add a line to do DHCP lookup06:54
Kamping_Kaisernot sure what gui tools KDE has to do it06:54
Kamping_KaiserI'll just grab those lines for you06:54
hatake_kakashihmm network config file06:55
Kamping_Kaiserin /etc/network/interfaces06:55
Kamping_Kaiserauto eth006:55
Kamping_Kaiseriface eth0 inet DHCP06:55
hatake_kakashiahh, ta06:55
Kamping_Kaisernp06:55
Kamping_Kaiseri had to look that up - i have been off computers way to long :/06:55
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: heh, well at least ya found it :)06:56
Kamping_Kaiser:)06:56
Kamping_Kaisernew the file, not what to put in it ;)06:56
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: I was thinking of making my own script to automatically get it on bootup via dhclient eth0 or something06:56
Kamping_Kaiserlol. way to geek. just use the right file ;)06:57
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: well, sometimes its possible to bend your back just to get certain things like that to work :)06:57
Kamping_Kaiser:)06:57
hatake_kakashiman, I still have lots of setting up and learning to do :)06:59
Kamping_Kaiserlol. we all do. you used any other distros? i asume yes, as you were thinking of hacking init...07:00
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: yeah, RH8 and SuSE Pro 807:00
Kamping_Kaiserah ok :)07:00
Kamping_Kaiserwell ububuntu should be easy for you07:00
Kamping_Kaiser*ubuntu07:00
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: well, I don't mind the easiness but I'm really looking for some sort of flexibility, and I also prefer KDE over Gnome so maybe my next target could be debian07:01
hatake_kakashiprobably dual boot kubuntu and debian? :)07:02
Kamping_Kaiseri have Debian in a chroot07:02
Kamping_Kaiseri just have to work out how to get it to xnest properly07:02
hatake_kakashiheh07:02
Kamping_Kaiseri have Kubuntu chrooted as well, same deal ;)07:02
hatake_kakashiyou want to use the two different X?07:02
Kamping_Kaisernot at this stage.07:03
Kamping_Kaiseratm i just want to make a new workspace, and have Kubuntu/Debian running in a workspace in xnest07:03
Kamping_Kaiserthat would be so cool!07:03
hatake_kakashiahh ok, was trying to figure out why you want to do xnest. The last time I was taught using it with xnest was to do xforwarding or something07:03
hatake_kakashinice07:03
Kamping_Kaiseri will work on multiple x sessions later (Kubuntu and ubuntu side by side), but it's not a priority atm07:04
Kamping_Kaiserthe only reason i wasnt to learn Kubuntu is that i do most of my helping in #Kubuntu and #Kubuntu-offtopic, not #ubuntu ;)07:04
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: ditto, but when I was introduced to #kubuntu-offtopic by Hentai^XP, I later on paid a visit to #ubuntu and I realised how much questions was flowing around07:06
Kamping_Kaiseryeh.07:06
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=== Kamping_Kaiser wondesr if this box has been hacked
Kamping_KaiserI'm noticeing screwy netwoking stuff07:10
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hatake_kakashieh that would have been bad07:11
trekkorwhere do i find the newly available kde and why?07:11
hatake_kakashiI was almost close to that stage once, but I realised that I can avoid it07:11
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: well I'm worried :(07:12
Kamping_Kaisertrekkor: what?07:12
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: I can't imagine reinstalling constantly, it is not fun at all. I have done like 5 times already, mainly due to the changes in partitioning and switching boxes07:13
trekkorkameron: why do i find it somewhere else than in http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/ ?07:13
trekkorKamping_Kaiser: why do i find it somewhere else than in http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/ ?07:13
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: i havent reinstalled for ages (it's not something i do usualy), but not sure how to try and clean up07:14
trekkorkameron: sorry. that was not meant for you (imo)07:14
kamerontrekkor, no prob bob07:14
Kamping_Kaiser*shrug* i don't know about finding KDE07:14
trekkorkameron :)07:14
hatake_kakashiI was also annoyed at the fact that I downloaded a fair bit of deb packages, when it comes to reinstalling, I backed them up and after reinstalling, I came to realise that I missed the index files for those deb or whatever they are called, a small database07:15
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hatake_kakashitrekkor: what do you mean you find it somewhere else than in (url)?07:15
trekkorhatake_kakashi: ok, i will begin with this: where do i find the newly available kde 3.5* packages?07:16
hatake_kakashi!kde3.5.107:17
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi07:17
hatake_kakashi!kde3.507:17
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".07:17
hatake_kakashitrekkor: there's info on the web07:17
trekkorhatake_kakashi: thanks07:17
hatake_kakashierr kubuntu web07:17
hatake_kakashitrekkor: np07:17
trekkorhatake_kakashi: "Page last modified 15:13 Mon 28 November 2005" (hehe, i guess)07:20
hatake_kakashitrekkor: o.O07:21
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hatake_kakashijust a question of curiousity, anyone here is running a PIII (Coppermine) @1.0GHz ?07:23
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Kamping_Kaisernot me :)07:24
Kamping_Kaiserhi Hobbsee :) wb07:24
Hobbseehi Kamping_Kaiser ty07:24
Hobbseelike the pics07:24
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: d*mn :)07:24
Kamping_Kaiser:) good oh Hobbsee07:25
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi:  ;)07:25
Kamping_Kaisercant have everythjig07:25
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: I know but oh well, worth the try to ask :)07:25
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: i wanted to show someone else, so i put them up on the web, i should have just done that :)07:25
Hobbseehehe07:26
Hobbseetrue07:26
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: i think pentium 3 is the only x86 i don't have ;/07:26
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hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: heh, I was curious about the cpu threshold temp, right now, as of writing, it is still doing that prelink, doing 100% load and the temp almost got around 58 degrees celsius07:28
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Kamping_Kaiserwhen it gets to about 60-70, start to worry :)07:28
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Kamping_Kaisernot a problem untill then07:29
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Hobbseehehe @ madrush's exit message...07:29
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Kamping_Kaisero_0 er...07:31
hatake_kakashiHobbsee: d*mn, well, I'll have to wait and see, if not, I'll try a vanilla kernel.. and if that doesn't work, I'm going through the gung-ho style of gentoo :)07:32
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: ahh ok07:32
Hobbseewhat are you trying to do, anyway?07:32
Kamping_Kaiser:)07:33
hatake_kakashiHobbsee: like to keep my system running a little faster if at all possible I know it sounds stupid, but I reckon it'd worth it, most of the time my computer is sitting there idling anyway heh :)07:33
Hobbseeah ok07:33
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: if i need a deb built, could i sweet talk  you into doing for me?07:34
hatake_kakashilol07:34
HobbseeKamping_Kaiser: what kinda deb?  !checkinstall07:34
Kamping_Kaisera metapackage probably. might have some data itself (or another package with the extra data)07:35
Kamping_Kaiser!tell me about checkinstall07:35
Hobbseeinto repos, or what?07:35
Kamping_Kaiserffs ubotu07:35
Kamping_KaiserHobbsee: no, just for non repo use07:35
Hobbseeah ok07:36
Hobbseeshould be ok, if you build the source...07:36
Kamping_Kaiserhm. ok07:36
Kamping_Kaiseri might not need to do it, but I'm making sure i can find people to help/do it ;)07:37
Hobbseehehe yeah07:38
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hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: like farming out workload to other people's computers? :D07:38
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: more or less ;)07:38
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Kamping_Kaiserand run my desktop inside the cluster07:39
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Hobbseehehe07:40
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: you can, having 16x xboxes, its feasable ;)07:42
Kamping_Kaiserlol. i don't have any xboxes ;)07:43
Kamping_Kaiseri do have lots of computers... ask Hobbsee!07:43
Hobbseehehe!07:45
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Kamping_Kaiser:)07:45
MadRushhey quick question, does kubuntu normally ask you for a root password when installing? i thought it only asks you for a password for your user that you create07:46
_vandal!sudo07:46
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:46
sampanmadrush  you thought correctly.07:46
MadRushuh then i have an interesting problem07:47
Kamping_Kaiserlol07:47
MadRushit did indeed ask me for a root password07:47
Kamping_Kaiseryou have a root password?07:47
MadRushyep07:47
_vandalwhen?07:47
Kamping_Kaiserdid yourun the expert install?07:47
sampandid you do the expert install?07:47
_vandaldid you do expert install?07:47
_vandalyeah..07:47
MadRusher yes07:47
sampanlol07:47
MadRushis that a normal circumstance of expert install?07:48
_vandalyes07:48
MadRushoh alright07:48
Kamping_Kaiserif you don't put in a password it locks it for you07:48
MadRushheh.. not such a good thing to do OS installs after a long day at work07:49
Kamping_Kaiserlol.07:49
Kamping_Kaiserdepends on yhour work07:49
MadRushits not particularly stressful work, just a particularly obnoxious co-worker. this one somehow managed to keep me from having a single consistent train of thought all day07:50
Kamping_Kaiseroh, score :/07:50
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MadRushcedega == that commercialized wine thing, right?07:52
Hobbseeyeah07:52
Kamping_Kaiseryeh07:52
Kamping_Kaisernow it's gone!07:53
MadRushhow is it, anyway07:53
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Kamping_KaiserMadRush: so so. (well, good, if your willing to pay for it)07:53
MadRushi wasnt aware of a non-paying version07:53
MadRushi dont know if this is another common one, or a consequence of expert install, but you ever have a problem with that use su, such as adept (namely: Su returned with an error)07:54
Kamping_Kaiseri think if you have a root user the gui tools in dke don't work rigth (i know they don't in gnome)07:56
Kamping_Kaiser*however*07:56
Kamping_Kaiserother people have said they had no issues, so ijm wondering if it's to do with the user+root having the same password07:57
MadRushmine have different passwords07:57
MadRushi mistakenly decided upon an extrememly long one for root...07:57
Kamping_Kaiserhm.07:57
Kamping_Kaiserthat's anoying. lol07:57
MadRushyeah07:58
MadRushi can su in commandline ok with my long root pw07:58
sampanmadrush, it's breezy right? not dapper?  is it a fresh install?  or have you updated?  only time i got those su errors was in the first couple of days, when there were some admin mode/gui su bugs (fixed first week after release)07:58
Kamping_Kaisercheck your sudoers file07:58
MadRushbreezy-fresh-haven't updated07:58
sampani'd update right away -- i suspect that will fix it (after you restart kde) -- that first update was critical for kdebase07:59
MadRushwill do08:00
MadRushfunny thats why i was going to adept in the first place08:00
Kamping_Kaisersampan: i remember that now, media and the sudo tools were broken or something?08:00
sampani couldn't even change the clock/timezone without that update -- i'd get all sorts of errors and "conversation with su failed", etc.08:00
MadRushreally?08:00
MadRushive used the x86_32 version fo breezy with no issue on other systems08:01
MadRushi now have a x86_6408:01
sampanlol yeah -- i put in the wrong timezone and went to change it -- *thunk*  had to do some manual restart of the hwclock, but then all my GUI sudo/kdesu were borked till the updte08:01
MadRushthat takes the fun out of kubuntu heh08:02
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sampankamping_kaiser  yeah -- it was right at the beginning.  my konq /media/ is -still- busted though08:02
Kamping_Kaiseroh o_008:02
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MadRushive just started to use linux permanently and so far kubuntu just fits so much better than  other distros for me08:02
sampanif i manually type in /media/ at the location bar, it works.  but auto-mounting and opening /media/ of a usb device, no-go08:02
MadRushi havent actually tried regular debian, but at this point i dont see why, i dig kubuntu.08:03
MadRushyou ever use a distrobution and cant figure out why they did this or that or ten other things that make little sence?08:03
sampanmadrush  pretty much the same for me.  i tried a bunch of others, but kubuntu seemed best (i love apt, and the install is painless and the central repos are great -- plus the forums and irc -- it's a winning combo)08:04
MadRushi decided to give suse a shot because it has a kernel module for my funky southbridge, but i couldnt get the gui tools to work properly (namely sax2, couldnt get my screen to do more than 800x600)08:05
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MadRushwhat user(s) should sudoers usually have for a normal (non-expert)install of kubuntu08:10
Kamping_Kaiserjust you08:11
MadRushoh08:11
Kamping_Kaiseruid 100008:11
MadRushmine's got root.08:11
MadRushonly root, actually08:11
Kamping_Kaiserdoes it have %admin/?08:11
Kamping_Kaiser*?08:11
MadRush nope08:12
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Kamping_Kaiserok. you can either add an admin line, then add users to the admin group, oradd users individualy08:12
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sampanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75324.html  <-- madrush08:17
sampanoops missed him08:18
sampanaccording to that thread, in the expert install the admin group isn't even created08:18
Kamping_Kaiseroh ok.08:20
Kamping_Kaiseri better remember that :/08:20
sampanfor me, google > memory08:20
sampan;x08:20
sampanslower, but more likely to be correct08:20
Kamping_Kaiserheh08:20
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Kamping_Kaiseri got it the night google shouted drinks for everyone at the conf08:21
sampanaiyo.  drinks on google?  when are they launching that internet service?08:22
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Kamping_Kaiserlol. it was part of linux.conf.au08:22
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shreevatsahow do I play midi files?08:36
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maewoo hoo08:45
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scorpion007Is there anything that can cause (k)ubuntu to not power off?08:53
Kamping_Kaiserpower off?08:53
scorpion007It restarts fine, but stops saying: "powering down" and I have to press the switch to cut power08:54
scorpion007but when shutting down*08:54
Kamping_Kaiserand it's a atx compatible box?08:55
scorpion007it never used to do it before..but started happening maybe a few days ago08:55
scorpion007a6408:55
Kamping_Kaiserperhaps after you ran a dist-upgrade ?08:56
Kamping_Kaiseri cant realy help fix the problem though :(08:56
scorpion007The only major changes I did was installing the nforce drivers... :/08:57
Kamping_Kaisero_008:57
scorpion007I modified the halt script...but only adding a few lines of code...08:57
scorpion007I tried commenting the lines out though, and no difference :(08:58
Kamping_Kaiser:(08:59
scorpion007all I installed was network and sound..why did it have to break? :(08:59
Kamping_Kaiserdunno :( havent seen the problem before09:00
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scorpion007where can I check the shutdown messages? is there a log somewhere?09:01
Kamping_Kaiseri think so, but i don't know where09:06
kameronscorpion007, check /var/log09:07
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trekkorhow do i force mplayer show fractions of seconds after hh:mm:ss?09:41
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sean_mickendoes the freetype package in kubuntu use the bytecode interpreter?09:49
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g33khi11:14
g33kgot some problems with my Internetconnection, can anyone help me ??11:14
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seven_of_ninehi! is there a way to boot up without starting the x server11:21
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LiteHedd1di need help installing snort. anyone here familiar with getting snort running on ubuntu?11:37
LiteHedd1dcan i just install snort and acid from apt?11:37
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SkrotHi. Any reasons why eth0 does not get DHCP-info during boot? /etc/network/interfaces says "iface eth0 inet dhcp". Dapper btw. :>11:45
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bimberiSkrot: does that file also have the line 'auto eth0' in it - if not give that a try11:47
SkrotThat's probably it. Thanks ;)11:48
bimberiSkrot: np :)11:48
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paolo.....11:49
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killBillokey11:50
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seven_of_nineis it possible to make kubuntu boot without loading X? Ive messed with my xorg file and i just get a black screen11:57
morrowrecovery mode11:58
seven_of_ninedoes'nt work; same problem there11:58
morrowthan its not an X problem :)11:58
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seven_of_ninewell it wasnt like that before i edited the xorg file and the problem occurs when trying to start x11:59
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morrowtry to edit the grub boot line (the one with the "kernel " infront) and remove any words like splash and/or vga=...11:59
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seven_of_ninecan i do that from the grub bootloader?12:00
Nightmarehi. is somebody here who can speak german?12:00
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morrowseven_of_nine: yes.. select the recovery mode and than press "e" like edit12:03
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morrowafter that select the kernel line and press "e" again... remove the vga= and splash words and press enter and after that "b" for boot12:03
Nightmarekann mir jemand helfen? hab kubuntu installiert. jetzt will ich booten. klappt noch. aber wenn der dann ins kde wechseln will, macht er einfach garnix mehr. kann nur noch die maus bewegen. ist dann nur noch ein grauer bildschirm12:03
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morrowNightmare: english in here12:04
Nightmarek12:04
morrowlook for german channel via http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat12:04
paolohello12:04
Nightmarethanks12:04
seven_of_ninemorrow thank you i did it now. this is great !12:05
paoloqualkuno parla italiano?12:05
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killBillevrybody spack english?12:05
richard1yes12:06
killBillo shit12:06
richard1I speaks english12:06
richard1why?12:06
killBillwell i speack english12:06
killBillno12:06
killBilli speak italian12:07
richard1is my first time using IRC, this is a chat?12:07
killBilllike me.. is my first time12:08
richard1jejeje12:08
killBillwell i think this is a informatik chat12:08
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richard1this channel is for kubutu users?12:09
killBilldai non  possibile... nessuno italiano?12:09
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Hobbsee_away!it12:10
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:10
killBillyes12:10
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fatejudgerdoes anyone have an ATI card working on Dapper using the fglrx drivers?12:13
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shoreflyerhi there, anyone know why enable interface in network settings doesn't work for my wireless?12:44
shoreflyerand, there seems to be 2 places to do the configruation12:45
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shoreflyer<-- very confused windows user12:45
DocTomoeshoreflyer: youll most certainly need ndiswrapper12:45
fatejudgerI doubt that12:45
fatejudgermadwifi works great12:45
fatejudgerno need to go through all the trouble of setting up ndiswrapper12:46
DocTomoefatejudger: hm, never heard of this one12:46
shoreflyerkwifimanager tells me my wireless works nicely12:46
fatejudgerDocTomoe: it's the default12:46
DocTomoefatejudger: since when?12:46
shoreflyerthe only problem is setting up the wireless wep and where12:46
fatejudgershoreflyer: you probably didn't get an IP addresss12:46
fatejudger*address12:46
shoreflyerexactly12:46
fatejudgershoreflyer: WEP should be around there somewhere if you really want to have it12:47
shoreflyerbut there is no prompting for the correct key or even an error message12:47
DocTomoeshoreflyer: if you want an alphanumerical WEP entered, remember not to gibt "password", but "s:password"12:47
fatejudgershoreflyer: doesn't really do you much good anyway12:47
fatejudgershoreflyer: if you want to get an IP address using DHCP12:47
DocTomoeelse it tries to use your password as hexadecimal code12:47
fatejudgershoreflyer: use the command "sudo dhclient ath0"12:47
fatejudgershoreflyer: if you use the madwifi drivers12:47
fatejudgerI don't know what all the fuss is about with wireless security12:48
shoreflyercoming back to my question of why there are 2 places in kde controll center to configure this?12:48
shoreflyerand enabling my wireless does nothing eventhough it should show up as enabled12:49
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shoreflyerwhat config tool can i use that actually gives me some feedback that makes sense??12:52
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shoreflyerdoes anyone have a clue? i had ubuntu running and it only had one config too and that worked for my laptop...12:56
shoreflyermy collegues at work told me to go with gentoo, maybe i should have listened to them...12:57
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alessandroThere is a responsity for Dapper Drake?01:07
alessandroI found only the "cd" version01:07
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\merryhi all01:10
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moshedoes anyone here use the mplayer plugin for mozilla?01:29
robotgeekmoshe: yeah, i use it01:30
mosheare you able to get video to display fullscreen?01:31
rdaleI'm running kubuntu on an apple ibook and the default fonts are much too large. But if I reduce them all by 2 pts, they look really jagged.01:32
robotgeekmoshe: yes, you need to edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and set zoom = yes, i think01:33
moshehmmm01:33
mosheok01:33
mosheperfect01:34
moshethank you very much01:34
robotgeekmoshe: cool01:34
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moshefinally, it works.01:36
mosheI haven't had that working the way I wanted it since I installed ubuntu last June01:36
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Limulus] : KDE 3.5.1 and KOffice 1.5 beta out (kword slightly broken) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat
Limulusoops; sorry ^^;01:56
LimulusI just wanted to copy the URL01:56
robotgeekhey Limulus01:56
Limulushi :)01:56
LimulusI have a repository question01:57
robotgeeksure, ask away01:57
rdaleIf I install automake on kubuntu, it installs automake 1.4-p6 which is ancient01:57
LimulusI posted it on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12473401:57
Limulusand on http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102.15;topicseen01:57
Limulusbasically I use Ubuntu with some KDE apps01:58
Limulusand so I have this repository in my sources.list:01:58
Limulusdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ breezy main01:58
LimulusBut I can't install kdeedu01:58
Limuluson my i386 based machine01:58
Limulusbecause the i386 packages aren't available01:58
Limuluswhy is that?01:58
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Limulusare those packages still in testing?01:59
robotgeekLimulus: i am not sure, let me check01:59
Limulusthanks01:59
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Boruthello02:00
Limuluskde-latest right now resolves to kde351 BTW02:00
robotgeekLimulus: try apt-get -f install? or apt-get dist-upgrade02:01
robotgeekLimulus: i don't know on what it depends02:02
BorutSomewhere plug-in is libfastrack-gift, libares-gift??02:03
Limuluserm... ok, hopefully he will be back soon02:03
Limulusbut the latter doesn't work02:03
Limulus(all it wants to do is install kstars-data and remove kstars)02:04
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Limulushi again ^_^02:04
LimulusI was just saying that it doesn't work02:04
robotgeekLimulus: sorry, my shell gave up on me02:04
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Limulusbecause http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages doesn't have i386 packages for edutainment02:04
robotgeekLimulus: maybe try asking in #kubuntu-devel02:05
Limulusah, thanks! :)02:05
robotgeekLimulus: one sec02:05
robotgeekhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/pool-breezy/kdeedu/02:05
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Limulusdid you notice the lack of i386 packages?02:06
Limulus(e.g. for kstars)02:06
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paolohello02:06
paolois there anybody that know how to install java on firefox?02:07
Limuluskstars-data is for all (which is why it shows up), but kstars is only avail for PPC and amd6402:07
Limuluspaolo: I do (in Ubuntu, but it should be the same :)02:07
paolosudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.502:07
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robotgeekLimulus: hmm, ask in there. i for sure don't know the answer. Hobbsee you around02:07
paolodoesn't work02:07
Hobbseerobotgeek: yes?02:07
robotgeekubotu: tell paolo about javadebs02:08
paoloi mean, it says: couldn't find package02:08
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Limulusyou need to use the appropriate repository :)02:08
robotgeekHobbsee: can you help Limulus ? he's not able to find some 3.5.1 packages, and i  have no clue about those things02:08
LimulusPLF has it...02:08
Limulusadd to your sources.list this:02:09
Limulusdeb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free02:09
Limulusthen do sudo apt-get update02:09
Hobbseegot no idae sorry02:09
Limulusand then you should be able to install the package :)02:09
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robotgeekHobbsee: is it safe to ask that question in -devel?02:10
Limulushobsee: s'okay; I will ask in the devel chat :)02:10
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Hobbseerobotgeek: i'd say so, not sure if Riddell is around though02:10
Limuluser... oh, let me wait until I read the answer to that q ;)02:10
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Limulusif not, I will ask again another time, thanks :)02:10
robotgeekLimulus: :)02:11
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paulvolkHey Guys02:11
robotgeekhey paulvolk02:11
paulvolkI was wondering if there was a mail client for Kubuntu that cab support hotmail?02:12
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robotgeekpaulvolk: hmm, i don't think kmail can pull hotmail stuff (unless you pay for pop access)02:12
paulvolkya I was really hoping that there was something for free out there02:13
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robotgeekpaulvolk: i think there's some kind of webmail extension for thunderbird, ask google :)02:14
paulvolkoh ok thanks02:14
paulvolkbye for now02:14
paolook thanks02:14
paoloworks02:14
paoloi mean, downloading... ;)02:14
BorutWhere I will find libfastrack-gift, libares-gift for Kubuntu?02:17
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BorutIt needs for program Apollon02:18
Limuluspaolo: that should work just fine; you likely will have to close and reopen FF before it will work if its running right now02:18
Limulusafter install, test it here:02:19
Limulushttp://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml02:19
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robotgeekBorut: i think you might have to compile them from source, lemme check02:22
Boruthmmm02:22
Boruti'am amateur02:22
robotgeekBorut: no, i dont see them in the repos. it's not very tough02:22
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aitorhow can it be that du shows a higher (much higher) disk usage than the actual one?02:23
aitorsorry, df02:23
robotgeekubotu: tell Borut about compile02:23
robotgeekBorut: ask me if you have any questions02:24
aitoreven though I nearly reach the 20 gigs of disk usage, everything tells me I have near 40 gigs02:24
paolook thx02:24
paolonow i need to install printer canon ip200002:24
paolohow to do it?02:24
paolotried the utility to config printers in system->administration but it doesn't work02:24
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BorutPlease, ask these two packages about compilation if it is possible under Kubuntu an addin in repo Kubuntu :)02:26
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paoloat the end it says: not possible to load the selected driver02:27
robotgeekBorut: hmm, i dunno why they arent in there02:27
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BorutIt on mail ??02:28
robotgeekBorut: it is not in the repositories, i'll try to find out why they arent there02:28
Hobbseerobotgeek: which packages?02:29
Hobbseelibfastrack-gift, libares-gift for Kubuntu?02:30
Hobbseeoh02:30
Borutyes02:30
robotgeekHobbsee: yeah, i think they are hosted on berlios02:30
Hobbseeah ok02:30
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ninnghizidhaHello!  I got problems with mit Volume-Controls: If i push my volume-up-key a volume-meter will appear and increase, but the volume wont go up. Same for Volume-Down. :-/02:31
ninnghizidhai got no ideas how to link the volume-metre to the right channel.02:32
monteirohow can i make kaffeine stream quicktime movies in the internet ? (now it streams mpg with w32codecs and don't stream .mov files)02:32
BorutFor program Apollon need throw network Fasttrack and Ares02:32
robotgeekhttp://gift-ares.berlios.de/02:32
Boruti'm amateur user Kubuntu,02:33
robotgeekBorut: sure, but i'll guide you thru it02:33
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xxenonhi02:33
xxenonI have installed skype with --ignore-depends=libqt3c102-mt , works nicely. But now every apt-get install operation wants to remove skype.02:33
xxenonany idea ?02:33
robotgeekBorut: download http://download.berlios.de/gift-ares/gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.gz02:34
Borutok02:34
robotgeekBorut: in a terminal, do "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall"02:35
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howcomeshttp://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1205/ie66as.png02:37
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robotgeekhowcomes: evil!02:38
BorutIt wait moment :)02:38
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Borutok next02:41
robotgeeksudo apt-get install libgift-dev02:41
robotgeekBorut: oops, iot's not compiling. i think there's a problem02:43
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Borutlic in admin02:43
Borutlock in admin02:43
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asranielhi, does anyone know the best way to change the keyboard layout with kde?02:45
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fakedasraniel: yes, with kcontrol02:46
asranielfaked: seems broken to me, there arent any keyboard layout i could chose of02:47
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asranielis there a console utility that can change the keyboard layout?02:49
Hobbseenight all...02:50
Borutok next02:50
robotgeeknight Hobbsee02:50
robotgeekBorut: it isn't compiling from the source, there is some kind of error. sorry02:50
robotgeekBorut: i tht i could save you all the pain, but it's out of my hands now. sorry mate02:51
Borutok02:51
Borutno problem02:51
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nlindbladany German?02:55
robotgeek!de02:56
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de02:56
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nlindbladrobotgeek, need to speak to one02:56
nlindbladrobotgeek, not be in a channel full of them02:56
arafatasraniel: try setxkbmap02:56
robotgeeknlindblad: hmm, okay.02:56
nlindbladrobotgeek, it's about grammar02:57
nlindbladrobotgeek, have a huge exam tomorrow02:57
joao!fr02:57
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais02:57
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weedarWhen installing the java jdk I get mucho errors when following the guide02:59
weedarAnyone here who has done the same?02:59
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unholyweedar, Im not runnning (k)ubuntu yet, but did you use the one from suns website?03:00
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zblachhi. i have a bank of keys on my keyboard that I can't seem to use. how can I fix that?03:01
weedarunholy, yes I downloaded from sun..During the step where you use fakeroot and make-jpkg I get alot of access denied, yet later I am able to intall the package without any errors. I'm using the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:01
zblachI'm using a microsoft natural ergonomic, and I would like to enable my xf86 & other keys03:01
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paolohow can i change a permission of a usb device?03:03
paolo/dev/usb$ ls -l03:03
paolototale 003:03
paolocrw-rw----  1 root lp 180, 0 2006-02-05 14:38 lp003:03
zblachit was farily simple in gnome, but i can't seem to find a kde tutorial03:03
paolowant to change lp0 permission03:03
paoloso that everybody can use it03:03
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unholyzblach, there is a program that will do that for you, give me time to think.03:03
zblachunholy, sure, thanks03:03
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dell500how do you do a 'make clean' when there is no make file?03:06
unholyweedar: When you say later you can install without errors, does that mean its working?03:07
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FinalhazardHello.03:08
weedarunholy, I have no idea. I haven't found a way to test everything..But I would assume so, seing as installing the created debian-package should install the files that were not during creation03:08
unholytype 'java' and see what happens.03:09
weedaryes, well it seems to work03:09
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paoloanybody know ?03:09
weedarBut what I'm thinking is that what if some minor file is missing..I might not discover it until weeks from now03:10
weedarI wish there was a way to test if all the files were installed correctly03:10
unholyweedar: I understand allright. You could run 'sudo updatedb' and then run 'locate java' and it would show you all the files that were installed.03:11
FinalhazardI'm having problems installing Super Mario War on my computer. The guys behind it recently released a deb for it, so it could be played on Linux. But when I try to install it, it says I need libgcc1 4.0.2 and libstdc++6 4.0.2-4...03:12
FinalhazardAnd unfortunately, I just can't seem to find them.03:12
FinalhazardAnyone know where I could get it besides apt?03:12
weedarunholy, of course...I'll do that, but with slocate ;)03:13
unholyweedar: hehe, okay.03:13
unholyweedar: actually, that might not be beneficial to you. The reason I say use 'locate' is because you want to see all files installed. Not just the ones you have permissions for.03:14
paolohelp please03:15
paolohow to change lp0 permission03:15
weedarunholy, it seems the file that gave errors already existed..So I guess they were installed by the jre at some point. Either way, everything is fine! Thanks for your help :)03:16
unholyzblach: I cant remember the name of the program, I'm sorry. But heres a howto that might help http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys03:17
weedarpaolo, using chmod doesn't work?03:17
unholyweedar: no probs! Ill be installing kubuntu myself next week so this is all good for me too :)03:17
paolounable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": Permission denied03:17
paolowhat chmod line shoulw i use?03:17
paolocan u gimme the command?03:18
weedarunholy, in that case you should probably look into Automatix. I didn't use it myself but I will if I have to re-install kubuntu :)03:18
unholyweedar: Thanks for the heads-up. Ill look into it.03:18
zblachunholy,i'm running 3.5.1, and the keyboard locale selector is broken as of now03:19
mrstranohey guys.. what about 64bit ndiswrapper?03:19
paoloweedar?03:19
weedarunholy, it basically helps you install common programs and fixes, especially multimedia-related03:19
weedarpaolo, one moment03:19
paolok03:19
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unholyweedar: excellent!03:19
weedarpaolo, try "chmod o+r lp0" to add reading priveliges03:19
unholyzblach: ouch.03:19
weedarpaolo, but you will have to be root to do so, add a "sudo" in front of that command :)03:20
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paolostill03:21
paolounable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": Permission denied03:21
paolousing turboprint..03:21
weedarweird03:25
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weedarah, no not really..you have to have execute permission to enter it of course! Do "sudo chmod o+x lp0" paolo03:26
weedarIf that doesn't work I unfortunately won't know what to do next :/03:26
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uptest, 1,2 :)03:27
weedar303:28
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unholyzblach: linEAK is the name of the program :)03:29
unholyzblach: http://lineak.sourceforge.net/03:30
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weedarpaolo, did it work?03:30
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unholyzblach: but I also see there is a program which is actually built for kubuntu called 'hotkeys'.03:31
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zblachoh?03:32
zblachapt?03:32
zblachwow. never thought of that. cool03:32
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navisola03:33
paoloweddar03:34
paoloit worked if i do: chmod o+rw lp003:35
paolobut if i unplug and plug i need to do that again03:35
paolohow to perm chmod it?03:35
weedarpaolo, well you could add your user to the "lp" group03:36
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paolohow?03:37
weedaradd your username to the lp group in /etc/group for example03:39
weedarthere is also a command for it paolo, but I can't remember it at the moment..03:39
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paololp:x:7:cupsys03:40
paolohow should i change it?03:40
paololp:x:7:cupsys:paolo03:40
paolo?03:40
weedarno, separate with comma03:40
weedarlp:x:7:cupsys,paolo03:40
dell500i don't seem to have GL/gl.h, glu.h, or glx.h...03:41
dell500what should i do lol03:41
weedarWhat card are you trying to install dell500?03:41
dell500not a card, projectM (visualizer plugin)03:42
dell500needs opengl stuff i think03:42
weedarYes it does03:42
dell500but i did locate on those files and nothing came up... how should i go about getting them :)03:43
weedarWhat video card do you have, ati or nvidia?03:43
dell500ati03:43
dell5009600xt03:43
weedardell500, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI03:44
dell500i've got fglrx working...03:44
dell500or at least it says its working03:44
weedarIf you follow the guide you'll know it works :)03:45
dell500k, kool03:45
kernel_i386!firefox 1.503:48
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kernel_i38603:48
kernel_i386!firefox1.503:48
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:48
paolokeep getting permission denied =(03:50
paoloevery time i plug it int03:50
paoloevery time i plug it in03:50
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weedarThen, unfortunately I don't know paolo :/ Maybe try asking in #ubuntu and se if anyone there has a solution03:54
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kernel_i386btw ... why is there no firefox 1.5 as standard package?04:01
weedarthere is some trouble with it breaking certain packages kernel_i386, it will be in dapper though04:02
kernel_i386ya.. installed dapper .. and everything .. was ... ehm **** .. now I switched back .. an I am glad that I made it to install 1.5 @ breezy..04:02
weedarBreezy works for sheezy04:03
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kernel_i386hrhr04:04
weedarI mean, you have all the programs you need in apt, except some very few and those are installable anyway... :)04:04
kernel_i386yea.. indeed - but I have some bad trouble with vsftpd..04:04
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kernel_i386anybody got vsftpd in usage?04:05
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joaohi04:15
joaoanyone uses kopete?04:15
kernel_i386yes04:15
joaoi can't connect to messenger account04:16
joaodo you know something about it?04:16
joaoit used to work04:16
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weedarWorks fine for me joao04:17
weedarwhat version are you using?04:17
joao0.11.1 (kde 3.5.1 -- kubuntu)04:17
joaoweedar: what version do you use04:18
joao?04:18
weedarI'm using the same version04:18
joaook ... so can i "reset" kopete?04:18
joaomaybe i did something wrong04:18
weedarDo you get any errors at all joao ?04:19
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joaoyes, password incorrect - but: if i use gaim it works!04:19
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weedarI would try to remove all the accounts and configure them again04:21
joaoi already tried that! but it didn't work04:22
joaoit's not a big deal since i can use gaim, but i don't like the fact it just stopped working and i don't know why!04:23
joaothank you anyway04:25
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weedarNot much to thank for I'm afraid..You could always hear with the people in #kopete joao, but they don't respond very quickly :)04:26
joaook04:26
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?04:28
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_rootbonjour04:29
_rootj'ai besoin d'aide sur kubuntu04:29
_rootje recherche  changer le code d'un utilisateur quelqu'un pour m'aider ?04:29
joao_root: tu auras peut tre plus de chance sur #kubuntu-fr !04:30
_rootok merci04:30
OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?04:31
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MrJangleshello04:35
MrJanglesis there a way to move free space from an existsing windows partition to a linux partition?04:36
knubbeis it possible to take a snapshot by pressing "print scrn"?04:38
knubbeif so, what do i need to do to make it work?04:38
MrJanglesto early maybe? :)04:39
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unholyknubbe, ksnapshot is the program that does this. I dont know if it will definately work with the printscreen key, but it does on my Mandriva machine.04:42
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tobyAny guarddog users here?04:45
tobywhat firewall/iptables interface are people using then?04:46
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ccc_toby: i'm using firestarter.04:48
ccc_gtk04:48
unholyTheres one that works through a webbrowser too. I cant remember what its called.04:49
ccc_i don't actually see it much though, luckily :)04:49
ninnghizidhaHow can i add a custom keyboard-shortcut which executes a command?04:50
os2macthere is a way to do that through the settings gui... I can't tell you exactly how to do is as I am booted to windows atm..04:50
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tobyninnghizidha: Right click item in kicker menu.04:51
ninnghizidhai found the short-cut Sequences-Dialog .. .but i can just set shortcuts to programms in the kde-menu04:51
tobyninnghizidha: edit item04:51
tobyninnghizidha: "current shortcut key"04:52
tobyhth04:52
ninnghizidhaso ... i can just add shortcuts to programms inside the K-Menu?04:53
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tobyThey normally go there automatically if you install your programs using your package manager04:54
weedarAny reason why "LOCALCLASSPATH=~/saxon/saxon.jar;~/saxon/saxon-jdom.jar" should result in a permission denied?04:54
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ninnghizidhawell .. thanks .. this helps! :-D04:55
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httpdssim getting blue and red stripes all around the letter in kwrite ... any solution ?04:57
MrJanglesis there a program i can use to move free space from a windows partition to a linux partition?04:59
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unholyMrJangles: I dont think you can do this without loosing data in the linux partition you wish to extend.04:59
MrJangles:( thats unfortunate05:00
unholyMrJangles: What I did in your situation was shrink the windows partition (using either partition magic for windows, or the Mandriva installer)..05:01
MrJanglesgood idea, and than i can locate the unpartitioned space?05:01
unholyThen, I used the extra bit of space and assigned something like /usr/doc or something to it, which left more space on the other partition.05:01
MrJanglesgreat, and to assign it, can i use the install cd? or is there a better way?05:02
unholyMrJangles: I did this in Mandriva, I'm not a kubuntu user yet :)05:02
MrJanglesawesome, i'm familiar with partition magic, i can assign right in windows05:03
unholyThe Mandriva installer is pretty handy though. Just use the first CD to change your partitions. And dont install.05:03
MrJanglesya05:03
unholyMrJangles: I used an old version of PM, but you couldnt assign linux partitions with it.05:03
MrJanglesi'm thinking about dumping windows all together.... i dont know if i'm ready05:03
unholyMrJangles: Whats giving you doubts?05:04
MrJanglesgames05:04
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MrJangles;-)05:04
unholy:)05:04
httpdssmy kwrite problem: http://server2.ihostphotos.com/show.php?id=8464805:04
MrJangleswine is good, but i'm having to many problems installing certain things, but i dunno05:04
MrJanglesi think i can move on from games05:05
unholyWell, while I was dual booting, I found I was taking the easy way out whenever possible :) So I went cold turkey and installed Redhat. I had no games, and still dont have 3D accelleration, but I'm happy, and I've learned a lot.05:05
unholyMrJangles: I think when you get into it, you could find it as exciting as gaming.05:05
MrJanglesexactly, i'm running %100 linux on my laptop, no problems, and i learn a lot05:05
knubbeanyone who knows why its so slow to move files from a windows computer to kubuntu with samba?05:05
MrJanglesi just switched over on my desktop, and its running to a tea05:06
knubbe(and im sitting in kubuntu when i move the files)05:06
unholyMrJangles: What distro?05:06
MrJangleskubuntu05:06
unholyduh ;)05:06
MrJanglesi havent upgraded the distro yet, i dont know if i want to lol05:06
unholyhehe05:06
unholyI was a half-life addict, but I was actually glad for the break. I found some AMAZING 2D games for linux too.05:07
unholywww.nongnu.org/enigma is one.05:07
MrJanglesawesome, ya i'm pretty heacy into the half-life server world05:08
unholyWell, if you have some retro gaming roots in you youll like it.05:08
MrJanglesheavy*05:08
MrJanglesi think i'm starting to get tired of it, and as you said, playing around with linux is can be more exciting05:09
unholyBut I was an addict :) Spent WAY too much time at it. I like the human contact part of the linux community.05:09
MrJangleslol, totally05:09
unholy:)05:10
MrJangleswell thats such a huge part of gaming, is the interaction with the real world in the form of text :)05:10
unholyTrue :)05:11
unholyI dont know, I played so much of them that they all started to seem the same to me.05:12
MrJangleshehe, ya, thats why i got into hosting servers, it was a different level, but even thats getting annoying05:13
unholyMrJangles: Cool.05:13
MrJanglesi think i'll just wipe windows and forget the extending05:15
MrJangleswhy not eh05:15
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unholyMrJangles: Go for it :)05:18
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unholyIf you reeeeeaaally want youre games again, Cedega will probably do the job for you.05:19
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brezelhmm05:20
brezeli was testing the timedemo of cedega just yesterday05:20
brezeland i did have some problems05:20
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MrJanglesunholy: this looks alot better than wine...05:20
unholyWell, its commercial so they HAVE to get it to work :)05:21
brezeli.e. wc3 just crashed on me in the middle of a herowars game05:21
brezelalso wow seems to crash a lot when there are many npcs around05:21
brezeli am starting to believe my computer is too slow for playing games with cedega05:22
brezelcs works fine though05:22
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unholybrezel, is that game actually supported by Cedega? It doesnt do all games.05:22
brezelyes05:22
brezelwc3 is officially supported05:22
brezelnot sure about wow05:22
MrJanglessteam?05:22
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brezelhttp://transgaming.org/gamesdb/05:23
brezelwow seems to be officialy supported also05:23
brezelyes steam works well here05:24
ninnghizidhais tehre a cadega-package available for ubuntu?05:24
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ninnghizidhaor just debian? how to install it?05:24
brezelyou need cedega + point2play05:24
brezelyou can get a time limited demo from the cedega homepage05:24
tid-wavehello! how do i configure kubuntu to use non-GMT clock ?05:24
tid-waveI have windows installed on my PC which stores the clock in local time05:25
brezelsymlink /etc/localtime to the correct timezone in /usr/share/zoneinfo/05:25
unholytid-wave: windows and kubuntu have nothing to do with each other. You probably need to just change the time. Possibly in your bios?05:26
ninnghizidhano .. there is a switch in ubuntu to turn GTM off ...05:26
ninnghizidhai guess inside an init.d-script05:26
ninnghizidhabut i dont know where anymore05:26
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brezeli use ntpdate...i think it's the nicest solution :)05:27
brezelnever care about the clock05:27
tid-waventpdate will screw the clock when i reboot05:27
tid-wavebecause windows stores the time in localtime05:27
brezelthen your /etc/localtime link is wrong05:27
tid-wavelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2006-01-31 04:16 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Bucharest05:28
brezelntpdate gets the time from a timeserver and doesn't care what your bios clock is set to05:28
tid-waveit's good05:28
brezelare you using a time server in your timezone?05:28
tid-waveno05:28
brezelwell you should :)05:28
tid-wavethe problem is linux stores the time in GMT by default05:28
tid-wavei just need to change that05:28
tid-wavethe timezone is fine05:28
tid-waveOne ugly way to fix that is to set localtime to GMT05:29
brezelthen you might wanna check /etc/init.d/hwclock05:29
tid-wavebut that's evil05:29
brezelthen you might wanna check /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh05:29
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brezelit gets the configuration from /etc/default/rcS05:30
tid-waveyeah05:30
tid-wavethat's what i needed05:30
tid-wavethanks05:30
brezelyw05:30
tid-wavethere should be GUI way to set that ! ;)05:30
brezeli had to look for it myself ^^05:30
brezelkdesu kedit /etc/default/rcS :D05:31
tid-wave:))05:31
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brezelyea youre right...should be somewhere in kcontrol or whatever gnome uses05:31
tid-waveI want to have multiple users logged into KDE05:34
tid-wavehow can i do that ?05:34
tid-wave(Like the switch user feature in windows XP)05:35
brezelecho startkde > .xinitrc05:35
brezelstartx --  :105:35
brezelon a console05:35
tid-waveisn't it possible to use kdm for that ?05:35
brezelhmm05:35
tid-wavei mean instead logging off, just switch05:35
brezelprobably05:35
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brezelyou dont have to log off05:35
tid-waveah05:35
tid-waveI see05:35
brezelyou will have 2 xservers then05:35
tid-waveit has a switch user option !!!05:35
brezelone on ctrl alt f705:36
brezelone on ctrl alt f805:36
brezel:)05:36
brezelhehe05:36
tid-waveyay05:36
tid-wavenice05:36
brezelas i said probably...didn't know ^^05:36
larsivihmm, when did Sun's java start working in Konqueror?05:36
brezelworked forever?05:36
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brezelsince like java 1.2 or so05:37
larsivino, I had to use blackdown previously05:37
brezelhmm dunno then ^^05:37
updoes anyone have (k)ubuntu running on a ibm/lenovo thinkpad r52?05:37
asranielhi. how can i change the keyboard layout in kde 3.5.1? because of the kde 3.5.1 bug i cant change it in kcontrol. this is a REAL show stopper. i could not figure out how to make it correctly with the xorg.conf05:38
brosiozhi i've boot with 2.6.15 runnig module-assistant and create the module for nvidia install nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev but when i type modprobe nvidia i getFATAL: Module nvidia not found . anyone could help ?05:39
ninnghizidhai got the same problem, asraniel05:40
ninnghizidhai cant add a layout in the system-settings.05:40
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brezelre05:41
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LiteHeddedi need samba help05:44
LiteHeddedi can't browse samba shares05:44
brezelis lisa installed?05:44
LiteHeddedyes05:44
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brezelwhat do you get when you type smbclient -L servername?05:45
LiteHeddedit shows the shares05:45
brezeland smb:/ in konqueror does what?05:46
LiteHeddedcannot find any workgroups05:46
brezelhmm05:46
brezeldid you check in the kde control center?05:46
LiteHeddedno05:47
brezelinternet & network -> samba05:47
LiteHeddedit just says loading05:47
LiteHeddedand never stops05:47
brezelo.O05:47
LiteHeddedit's saying detecting your current platform05:47
LiteHeddedbut it's frozen05:48
brezelthat's odd05:48
asranielarg, i want to CODE! but i cant because i cant change the keyboard layout, which means i have to copy paste things like ]  etc... is there realy no way to change the keyboard layout with something else than kcontrol? i cant believe that..05:48
brezelasraniel: loadkeys05:48
brezelLiteHedded: sry no idea what could be wrong there...but it seems to be a kde issue since smclient -L works05:49
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brezelhmm05:53
brezeli just discovered katapult05:53
brezeldoes anyone know what that does? :D05:53
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beefsprocketbrezel: it is an application launcher of sorts05:58
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brezelyes, but how do i use it?05:58
brezelor configure it05:59
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brezelalt+space does something05:59
beefsprocketwell, I think that alt-space starts it05:59
beefsprocketthen try typing the name of an app that you use05:59
brezel:D05:59
brezelcool05:59
beefsprocketlike "f" brings up firefox05:59
beefsprocketyeah05:59
beefsprocketthen just hit enter05:59
brezelhttp://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Katapult-Screenshot-9059.html <-- here it says it can be configured06:00
beefsprocketno idea how to configure it -- haven't checked06:00
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beefsprocketnice06:00
brezeli don't seem to find that06:00
asranielyea, i found how to fix the keyboard layout problem with kde 3.5.106:00
asranielhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102.msg12587#msg1258706:00
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beefsprocketbrezel: you can right click on the icon in kicker?06:01
brezelhmm, no icon there06:01
beefsprockethmm, you have kde 3.4.3 ? I've got 3.5 which might be different06:02
brezel3.5.106:02
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brezeli just upgraded06:02
beefsprocketoh, well then06:02
beefsprocketI can't say that I know how to help in that case06:03
brezelhmm, well i'll figure it out :) thx anyway06:03
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csanigerhi all. I have a problem regarding kontact. Anyone can help?06:04
brezelwill try :)06:04
csanigerThanks :) When I go to Sync option  I get a message like this 'libmultisyncpart.la not found in library path'06:05
brezeldo you have the multisync packages installed?06:06
csanigeryes. I've just installed them right now. I would like to sync my Acer-n3006:06
tid-wavehow can I see all the songs from All Collection in amaroK ?06:07
csanigerI've been following the HOWTO on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3093606:07
brezelhave you tried to look for that file in your system?06:07
csanigerNo I haven't06:07
csanigerWhere should it be located? You know?06:08
brezelcsaniger: do a `find /usr -name "libmultisyncpart.la"` in a shell to see if that file is on your system06:08
csanigerok06:08
csanigerbrezel: doing it right now...06:09
brezelgood06:09
brezelhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105817 <-- seems you're not alone06:09
csanigerbrezel: it has not found it06:09
brezelhmm, are you using dapper?06:09
csanigerbrezel: What's dapper?06:10
brezeltid-wave: i think there is some dynamic playlist that has all songs06:10
brezelcsaniger: the development version of kubuntu06:10
csanigerbrezel: I installed breezy06:11
brezelko06:11
brezelok06:11
C-O-L-Tthere is an edubuntu live cd?06:11
csanigerbrezel: when I first plugged my PocketPC, I did a dmesg and saw it had recognized it06:11
brezelcsaniger: i would try to install all packages you find with `apt-cache  search multisync`...if none of those contains the necessary file the kontact package might be broken06:12
csanigerbrezel: from that point and on I followed the HOWTO mentioned before06:12
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brezelhmm, that's odd06:12
LiteHeddedwhen I reboot it's not keeping my wireless settings06:12
csanigerbrezel: Should I reinstall kontact?06:13
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brezelreinstalling things almost never solves problems under linux ^^06:13
brezelyou might wanna try to delete kontact's settings and start over06:13
GameOver69anyone can tell me or give me different lines in the sources list so i can get more updated programs?06:13
beefsprockethmm, how do I enable ctl+shift+ins paste in yakuake?06:15
csanigerbrezel: .... :(06:15
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brezelsorry csaniger i have no experience with multisync06:16
brezeli'm just saying what i would try06:16
csanigerbrezel: don't worry :) Thanks for your help, it's been appreciated :)06:16
brezel^^06:16
GameOver69anyone can tell me or give me different lines in the sources list so i can get more updated programs?06:19
brezelwhich version are you using?06:20
brezelbreezy?06:20
brezelhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/540288 <-- this is my sources.list06:21
GameOver69do these contain more updated versions of programs t hen whats provided by default?06:22
GameOver69and yes im using breezy06:22
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?06:24
brezelwell, the multiverse repository is not in it by default...but i guess there is just a larger selection of packages..not newer ones06:24
LiteHeddedwhen I reboot it's not keeping my wireless settings06:24
LiteHeddedcan someone help me?06:24
zblachLiteHedded,06:26
zblachhere's what you do\06:26
LiteHeddedok06:26
zblachwhat kinds of settings?06:26
LiteHeddedwell any06:26
LiteHeddedwhen I reboot the device is not ready06:27
zblachlike encryption? or essid?06:27
LiteHeddedi have to manually ifconfig up it06:27
zblachok06:27
LiteHeddedand set the static ip and essid etc06:27
GameOver69brezel, the multiverse is for kubuntu or ubuntu?06:27
zblachit is ndiswrappered?06:27
LiteHeddedno06:27
brezelGameOver69: doesn't matter...it's the same basic distro06:27
GameOver69oh ok06:27
LiteHeddedit worked right after install of kubuntu06:28
zblachLiteHedded, sudo open /etc/network/interfaces06:28
LiteHeddedi have it open06:28
zblachok06:28
zblachfind this line 'mapping hotplug'06:28
LiteHeddedok06:28
zblachnext is 'script grep'06:28
LiteHeddedyea06:28
LiteHeddedthen map eth106:28
LiteHeddedwhich is my wifi06:28
zblachchange the 3rd line to be 'map wlan0' or which every network card you're using06:28
zblacheth1 is your wifi?06:28
LiteHeddedyes06:29
zblachoko06:29
GameOver69zblach, i have mine ndiswrapped and have tried everything and i still have to dhclient it everytime to get it to work06:29
zblachnext line: "# The primary network interface06:29
LiteHeddedyes06:29
LiteHeddedthe info is there for it06:29
zblachnext line should be iface eth1 inet static06:29
LiteHeddedright06:29
zblachyou have all the rest?06:29
LiteHeddedlooks like it06:29
zblachaddress, network, gateway, netmask?06:29
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LiteHeddednetwork says 192.168.1.006:29
zblachyour router06:30
LiteHeddeddon't know if that's right or not06:30
LiteHeddedmy router is .106:30
zblachchange it to your router06:30
LiteHeddedok06:30
zblachuh... is there a paste channel?06:30
tid-wave#flood ?06:30
LiteHeddedthen what?06:30
brezelhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/06:30
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brezelgo here06:30
zblachLiteHedded, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54030606:31
zblachhave something like that06:31
zblachand i've never had a problem since06:31
LiteHeddedit says that06:31
zblach..06:32
zblachnot sure what the problem could be then. sorry.06:32
LiteHeddedthere's an entry for eth2. a wireless card I put in there but have since removed06:32
zblachi've found that method to always be foolproof06:32
LiteHeddeddelete it?06:32
zblachprobably06:32
zblachwere I you, i'd've called my wireless card wlan006:32
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zblachi have eth0 just in case i'm going to plug in wiredly06:33
LiteHeddedi didn't call it anything06:33
LiteHeddedubuntu did06:33
zblachok06:33
LiteHeddedi have iface eth0 inet after the eth1 setup lines06:33
LiteHeddedand then auto eth106:33
LiteHeddedshould that come before the eth0 line?06:33
MetaMorfoziShow can i set krusader to the default file browser?06:34
LiteHeddedfile associations in kcontrol prolly06:34
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LiteHeddedwhen I shut down on deconfiguring network interfaces it fails06:37
MetaMorfoziSLiteHedded: but what is the folder option? in kcontrol?06:37
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MetaMorfoziSi find about "folder"06:37
MetaMorfoziSand no results06:37
LiteHeddednot sure06:37
LiteHeddedsearch for file assotiations06:38
MetaMorfoziSyes i have found it06:38
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MetaMorfoziSi'm searched in the fileassociations06:38
LiteHeddedassociations06:38
LiteHeddedok06:38
MetaMorfoziSbut i'm not found it!06:38
MetaMorfoziS:(06:38
LiteHeddednot sure what it's under06:39
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brezelinode->directory06:39
brezelgot it MetaMorfoziS?06:40
MetaMorfoziSyes06:40
MetaMorfoziSthx06:40
brezelyw06:40
MetaMorfoziSbut not work:)06:40
MetaMorfoziSi'm click on a folder06:40
MetaMorfoziSand krusader load load load...06:40
MetaMorfoziSand crash..06:41
tid-wavehow can i restructure the panel like in ubuntu (gnome) ? with the application launchers and the notification area at the top and the taskbar + pager at the bottom of the screen ?06:41
brosiozhi i've boot with 2.6.15 runnig module-assistant and create the module for nvidia install nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev but when i type modprobe nvidia i getFATAL: Module nvidia not found . anyone could help ?06:44
brezelMetaMorfoziS: i am not sure if you can completely replace konqueror with something else06:44
MetaMorfoziS.but i'm want:)06:44
brezel:)06:44
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brezelhaha i know how :D06:46
brezelin the inode->directory entry  in the file associations06:46
brezeluser 'krusader --left'06:46
brezelnot only 'krusader'06:46
MetaMorfoziSmoment06:47
brezelman krusader says this:06:48
brezelOPTIONS06:48
brezel       --left <path>06:48
brezel              start left panel at <path>06:48
brezel       --right <path>06:48
brezel              start right panel at <path>06:48
MetaMorfoziSkrusader -caption "%c" %i %m06:48
MetaMorfoziSthisis the default06:48
MetaMorfoziSthe kcontrol added this06:48
MetaMorfoziSok i add th e--left06:48
MetaMorfoziSqql.06:48
brezelwhat are %i and %m replaced by?06:48
MetaMorfoziSi'dont know06:49
MetaMorfoziSth krusader is'nt started06:49
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brezelwell i just added put 'krusader --left' and it worked06:49
brezeljust try that06:49
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MetaMorfoziSokok moment06:50
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MetaMorfoziSql!06:50
MetaMorfoziSthank you:)06:51
brezelyw :)06:51
MetaMorfoziSit's loads a bit slowly...06:51
brezelapt-get install more-memory more-gigahertz :D06:52
MetaMorfoziS:)))06:52
melonipoikahi, does anyone know how to resize a linux partition, but moving the beggining of it?06:52
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MetaMorfoziS:((06:53
MetaMorfoziS:DD06:53
MetaMorfoziSmelonipoika: i don't know...06:53
OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?06:54
mister_robotomelonipoika: have you tried using gparted? it's a nice gui on parted to do this sort of thing,06:54
brezelMetaMorfoziS: fast machine :) i'm on 1600 MHz06:54
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brezelbut 1.5 GB RAM06:54
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melonipoikayes, but it only let me modifiy at the end part, not begining...06:54
melonipoikabut thanks in any case06:55
brezelmelonipoika: you can use cfdisk but you must backup all data before you change the partition table06:55
mister_robotomelonpoika: is there a partition before it taking up the space? if so, you might have to shrink that one first06:55
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melonipoikawhat i want to do is to make bigger the partition before ubuntu, and for that i first need to make the ubuntu one smaller...06:56
mister_robotomelonpoika: can't you just shrink the ubuntu one from the end first, then move the whole thing higher?06:57
melonipoikaoh yes, that i could try!, thanks06:57
melonipoikamister_roboto: what program do you recomend me for doing all that?06:58
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mister_robotomelonpoika: personally, i found gparted very easy to use.06:58
mister_robotomelonpoika: make sure you have a backup of important stuff in case anything goes wrong ;)06:58
melonipoikaok, thanks06:59
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AndyRhi all06:59
CyberMaddoes cvs can update installed package? so i will get less security problem, ex: apache, mysql, postfix06:59
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melonipoikaah, another question... i also need to move the swap partition then, but if i use the live cd, it is mounting it. How can i prevent the live cd to mount this partition, or hor to unmount it?07:00
AndyRanyone here op in #ubuntu?07:00
brezelmelonipoika: swapoff -a07:00
mister_robotoCyberMad: you should use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" for that07:01
melonipoikathanks07:01
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melonipoikabrezel: at booting time or in the console once started?07:01
brezelyou can do that anytime in a root shell07:02
CyberMadmister_roboto does it support latest update of package?07:02
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brezelit is not a boot option07:02
mister_robotoCyberMad: updating a CVS working copy won't do anything about the compiled versions you have installed07:02
melonipoikaok, thanks07:02
brezelyw07:02
mister_robotoCyberMad: that's what "dist-upgrade" does07:02
CyberMadthanks :)07:02
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mister_robotoCyberMad: the "update" part first updates your local database of packages, then the upgrade part will get you to the latest version07:03
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LiteHeddedwhy does it fail when I do /etc/init.d/networking restart?07:05
MetaMorfoziSanybody use krusader for ftp?07:07
MetaMorfoziSany way to store my ftp accounts?07:07
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MetaMorfoziSand acces to it like total commander?07:07
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MetaMorfoziShi stratovarius, magyar vagy?07:07
stratovariushi all07:07
stratovariuswhat does "hda: no DRQ after issuing MULTIWRITE" mean?pl shelp me to solve this problem07:07
mikei'm getting all kinds of problems when I attempt to compile anything07:08
mikewhat do I need07:08
mike(package wise)07:08
mikeis there a paste bot?07:08
CyberMadthanks mister_roboto07:09
brezelhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com07:09
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stratovariusnopbody can help me pls07:09
brezelstratovarius: what is the problem?07:09
brezeljust this message?07:09
stratovariuswhat does "hda: no DRQ after issuing MULTIWRITE" mean?pl shelp me to solve this problem07:09
brezelor does anything actually not work?07:09
mikehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54036707:11
mikeit looks like i'm just missing something essential07:11
mikewhat is it07:11
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brezelmike: bc6-dev or a c compiler07:12
brezellibc6-dev07:12
mikeah07:13
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mikeya that would do it07:13
mikei knew it was something essential i just forgot what07:13
brezel^^07:13
brezelman i like this channel :) helping people is fun from time to time :)07:14
MetaMorfoziS@ first startup (after install) kde asks me about my performance07:14
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MetaMorfoziSand i'm setted the scrollbar (stupidly) the max07:14
stratovariushi again07:14
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i set it again?07:14
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mikeah brezel you my hero07:15
brezel:D07:15
mikewho you like for the game?07:15
brezelwhat?07:16
mikesuperbowl07:16
brezeloh, i'm neither from the US nor into sports sorry ^^07:16
stratovariusbrezel (i think u were trying to help me) that message appears me when I boot my system. sometimes it appears me during the module loading, sometimes after starting hotplug subsystem, sometime after setting the system clock can u help me?07:16
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mister_robotomike: build-essential07:16
sabinwhy can't I see the the other partitions on the same hd as my kubuntu install?07:17
brezelstratovarius: what i wanted to know: does it actually cause any errors?07:17
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stratovariusbrezel in what sense07:17
as_28hello07:17
stratovarius?07:17
as_28hello murchadh07:17
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stratovariusbrezel that error slows my system boot07:18
brezelstratovarius: you can access the disk correctly but you want to correct that message is that right?07:18
sabinI want to see my PClinuxOS install but it tells me that it's unavailable when I try to mount it07:18
brezelok07:18
stratovariusbrezel yeah I do07:18
as_28I am having problems with my wifi card07:18
brezellooks like a kernel message. do you have a strange IDE chip and an old kernel version?07:18
as_28its strange becouse it let me enable foir just a second and then it get back disabled07:18
stratovariusbrezel I think it a kernel problem too. wait for a while I'll tell u my kernel07:19
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as_28any help?07:20
stratovariusbrezel07:20
stratovariusbrezel 2.6.12-10-38607:20
brezelyes07:20
mister_robotoas_28: any clues at the end of /var/log/messages?07:20
as_28let me see07:21
brezeltry to upgrade to 2.6.14 and make sure the drivers for your IDE chip are in the kernel07:21
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mataharihi07:21
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as_28thank you msiter_roboto for awnser07:21
mataharii wanted to ask which xorg version kubuntu breezy uses07:21
mister_robotoas_28: well that was easy  ;^)07:21
as_28now07:22
as_28i am opeing the log07:22
as_28whatdo i have to look?07:22
stratovariusbrezel and I try to downgrade???this error appeared me after my system update and the kernel was one of the avaible updates07:22
stratovarius* can I try to downgrade?07:23
brezeldowngrade?07:23
brezelhmm07:23
brezeli wouldn't do that07:23
mister_robotoas_28: look toward the end of the file for some sort of errors having to do with networking. you could try "tail -f" on the file while you enable the card to watch as it happens07:23
brezeli would try to bake my own kernel that has the correct drivers for your ide chip compiled into it :)07:23
as_28mister_roboto: it says CLOSED DEVICE at the end of the log07:23
stratovariusok u suggest me to update my kernel.how can I do that?07:23
as_28let me try to bring it up and see if anything changes in the log07:23
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as_28mister_roboto: when i tyoe dhclient in the konsole it says sit0: unknown hardware adderss type 776 and the a bunch of  lines07:25
brezeleither install a newer precompiled kernel (i think the package is called linux-image-something) or compile one yourself.http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Kernel-HOWTO.html07:25
mister_robotomatahari: Xorg -version07:25
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mataharimister_roboto: i don't have kubuntu installed07:26
mister_robotoas_28: ok, i guess your problem is no driver is getting installed for the device. but I have no clue how to fix it07:26
mataharii want to know the xorg version before i download it07:26
stratovariusbrezel tnx07:26
mister_robotomatahari: X Window System Version 6.8.2 (Ubuntu 6.8.2-77 20051010174523 root@vernadsky.buildd)07:26
brezelyw :)07:27
mataharithis is the newest KUbuntu?07:27
as_28but its strange becouse its there in the hardware devices panel07:27
mister_robotomatahari: breezy, updated as of yesterday07:27
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matahariokay... that#s not good07:28
mister_robotoas_28: this is a pcmcia card?07:28
mataharihow about the development version? is there xorg 7.0 inside?07:28
as_28no07:28
as_28is in the laptop that i am using07:28
mister_robotomatahari: dunno. might try reading the kubuntu wiki for the info on what's in Dapper if nobody can answer07:29
mister_robotoas_28: sorry, man. no clue07:30
as_28mister_roboto: no problema thanks again07:30
mister_robotoas_28: any unusual messages when you do an "ifdown" and "ifup"?07:31
matahariokay... thanks07:31
mataharibye07:31
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as_28mister_roboto: let me see07:31
as_28what do i have to type exactly07:31
updoes anyone have (k)ubuntu running on an ibm/lenovo thinkpad r52?07:32
mister_robotowell, personally, I would start a "tail -f /var/log/messages" to watch that, then do "sudo ifdown" followed by "sudo ifup" when it finished07:32
as_28when i type ifdown wlan0 it say: ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured07:33
Ilokaasuim not sure if this helps but my laptops wlan was eth007:34
OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?07:34
stratovariusbrezel can I compile my kernel again to unable multiwrite?07:34
mister_robotoas_28: ok, that's progress :)    you either have to figure out how to use "iwconfig" or config your card through whatever networking gui admin tool you have07:34
brezelstratovarius: probably you can also do that with hdparm07:35
as_28mister_roboto: what do you mean about gui admin tool: KDE?07:35
mister_robotoas_28: in KDE, I just use "system settings" gui07:35
stratovariushdparam???can u guide me to do that?07:35
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brezelstratovarius: ut it would be better if multiwrite would just work properly07:35
mister_robotoas_28: yes07:35
brezelman hdparm07:35
brezel:)07:35
as_28mister_roboto: i did went there07:35
as_28mister_roboto: but when i enable the card 2 seconds later it sets disabled again07:35
mister_robotoas_28:  and?   did you set up your wifi?07:35
mister_robotoas_28: oh, I see.07:36
as_28mister_roboto: and i know the network works becouse i have my desktop pc running with windows and it get the wifi conection07:36
mister_robotoas_28: and the only message you see when you enable it is "DEVICE CLOSED" or something like that? nothing else?07:37
as_28not even that it just get again in DISABLED state07:38
mister_robotoas_28; by "message" I mean something showing up in /var/log/messages. There should be SOMETHING there when you attempt to enable it07:38
as_28ok, let me see07:39
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maverickhi all07:39
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as_28mister_roboto: the log file says07:41
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as_28mister_roboto: get_mask 0x00000000, set mask 0x0000004007:42
as_28mister_roboto: setting_ RXconfig to 2000:000007:43
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as_28mister_roboto: get_mask 0x00000000, set_mask 0x0000000 - after update07:43
maverickhmmm07:43
maverickanyone here up for helping me set up? repositrys?07:44
as_28mister_roboto: FIXME: most likely needs refinement, first07:44
maverickcant seem get that up and install apts07:44
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Snake__ubotu: tell maverick about sources07:45
maverickcheers07:45
maverickgonna go check that07:45
Snake__:)07:45
Snake__Alright07:45
maverickahh one prob they ask for programe called synaptic?07:46
mavericki havent got that07:46
maverickbut got aptet?07:46
maverickaptget*07:46
Snake__maverick: hold on a moment alright?07:46
Snake__!sources07:46
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:46
Snake__let me read over how they tell you to do it07:46
maverickoky07:46
Snake__maverick: are you using adept?07:48
maverickyep07:48
maverickworked out how to install it07:48
Snake__maverick: okay, start adept07:48
maverickfound synaptic installed it07:48
Snake__maverick: wait. what program are you using07:48
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maverickadept07:48
maverickcant seem find synaptic07:48
Snake__maverick: okay07:48
maverickk07:48
Snake__maverick: open adept07:48
as_2804mister_roboto: stil there?07:49
maverickk07:49
Snake__maverick: then in the corner it says "adept" click that, and click "manage respritorys"07:49
maverickyep07:49
Snake__maverick: I assume your trying to get univers and multiverse repos?07:49
maverickhmm07:49
maverickwell iam trying ety07:49
maverickget java07:50
maverickazurus07:50
Snake__maverick: what are you trying to do with your respritorys07:50
Snake__maverick: ahh okay07:50
maverickand get movied07:50
maverickmovies*07:50
maverickan dvd to work07:50
maverickheard there in repositery?07:50
Snake__maverick: okay, see where it says "Universe and Multiverse" on the side?07:50
maverickyeaH07:50
Snake__maverick: right click any ones that have that and click "enable"07:50
maverickK07:50
Snake__maverick: then click fetch updates07:51
maverickK07:51
maverickOKY DONE07:51
Snake__maverick: then when its done, look for whatever you need07:51
maverick sorry now wat ?07:51
maverickoky :D07:51
maverickthey got all wat i need?07:51
maverickdo ya think?07:52
Snake__maverick: I dont think azurus is in the repos, but I know the java you need it07:52
maverickoky07:52
Snake__ubotu: tell maverick about java07:52
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Snake__maverick: follow that link ubotu gave you, and install "Blackdown Java 1.4"07:53
as_2804i got these message whrn i try to enabled the wifi card: FIXME: most likely needs refinement, first07:53
as_2804anyone knows how to fix this?07:54
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maverickoky07:54
maverickcheers07:54
Snake__Yep07:54
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as_2804any help?07:56
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mavericksnake cant find it07:56
maverick:(07:56
maverickj2 one07:56
Snake__maverick: did you fetch updates?07:56
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maverickyeah07:57
Snake__maverick: hmmm hold on a minute ok?07:57
maverickoky07:58
maverickmaybe iam not on admin account?07:58
kkathmantrying to install java or what?07:58
Snake__maverick: ahh crap I see what I did07:58
ClayGis it possible to have working (to the outside world also) subdomains without setting up dns servers? can you have mysite.com , through either entry in the hosts or maybe vhosts, i dunno07:58
maverickoh?07:58
Snake__maverick: go back to the manage respritories area07:58
maverickk07:58
Snake__maverick: re-enable the "universe" and multiverse ones07:59
Snake__maverick: then press "apply"07:59
Snake__maverick: then click the button that says "close" next to it07:59
Snake__maverick: then fetch updates :)07:59
confuzedanyone with experience of installing pbpbb with a mysqldatabase? I'm experiencing some problems with the database connectivity08:00
as_2804hello08:00
as_2804any help with wifi enabled a card?08:00
mavericknope :(08:00
kkathmanmaverick:  whats the problem?08:01
mavericknot coming up the j2 file08:01
maverickin apt08:02
maverickive done wat snake said08:02
maverickadded universe reps08:02
maverickseems not to come up08:02
kkathmanyou got java installed?08:02
mavericknot sure08:03
maverickdnt know08:03
mavericktoo be honest08:03
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maverickjsut been told that i need it before i can install08:03
maverickazeurus08:03
kkathman!javadeb08:03
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/08:03
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Snake__maverick: did that work?08:04
mavericknope08:04
maverickcant find08:04
kkathmanSnake__:  he cant verify he has java installed08:04
maverickj2.14 ( black one)08:04
maverickor08:04
maverickjava sun08:04
maverickin the apts08:04
kkathmanthe one in multiverse I'd say08:04
maverick?08:05
Snake__kkathman: no, he cant see to get his repos working...because it should be in the repos08:05
kkathmanread his sources.list then08:05
kkathmanpost them in the pastebin08:05
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kkathmanthen make sure they are correct08:05
maverickerr08:05
maverickiam proper noob mate08:05
Snake__kkathman: can I tell him to sudo kate?08:05
kkathmanno08:05
Snake__kkathman: I didnt think so08:06
kkathmannot sudo..NEVER sudo a kde08:06
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mavericksudo the comand one right?08:06
kkathmankdesu kate  then edit /etc/apt/sources.list08:06
Snake__maverick: do what kkathman just said :)08:06
kkathmanusing sudo with kde apps can corrupt your system08:06
maverickkdesu?08:07
kkathmanyer in KDE right?08:07
maverickfrom terminal?08:07
kkathmanalt-f2  then type  kdesu kate08:07
mavericktype dat08:07
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maverickit loaded kate08:08
maverickbut opened empty file?08:08
maverickfound it08:08
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maverickwat do i edit it with?08:08
mavericki mean add?08:08
Snake__ubotu: tell maverick about sources08:08
Snake__again :)08:08
maverick:)08:09
Snake__maverick: add the offical breezy sources08:09
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maverickoky08:09
maverickloading site now08:09
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maverickshall i copy and paste08:10
maverickfrom site rewrite wat i got?08:10
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mavericki got alot of commentary08:10
Snake__maverick: Erase your whole sources.list and paste in the offical one08:10
maverickon my current one08:10
maverickk08:10
maverickhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 official right?08:11
Snake__maverick: looks good08:11
zblachhow can one set bootsplash screens in kde 3.5.1?08:11
maverickit seems smaller?08:11
kkathmanbe sure to remove the cd-rom line if its there08:11
maverickthe wat i currently got08:11
Snake__maverick: thats not a issue08:11
Snake__kkathman: I had him clean the whole sources.list08:12
kkathmanokies08:12
Snake__maverick: just erase all you've got and put the whole new list in08:12
as_2804hello08:12
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kkathmanbe sure to do a sudo apt-get update  at the command line before anything else08:12
maverickok done it and saved it08:12
Snake__maverick: tell me when youve done that08:12
maverickjsut save right?08:12
Snake__maverick: see where the single "#" are?08:12
maverickyeah08:13
MetaMorfoziShi all08:13
Snake__not the double, but anywhere theres a single #, remove it08:13
Snake__maverick: or "comment it out" as they say ;)08:13
as_2804anyone know wifi enabled08:13
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i set the global character encoding?08:13
maverickdone08:13
Snake__maverick: now save08:13
maverickk08:13
Snake__maverick: now in a terminal do "sudo apt-get update"08:13
mavericknow wat?08:14
MetaMorfoziSi'm isntalled few thems, and some characters replaced with a square08:14
mavericknow wat?08:14
mavericksnake?08:14
MetaMorfoziSi want to set globally 8859-208:14
Snake__maverick: now try this- one moment08:14
maverickk08:14
Snake__maverick: sudo apt-get install j2re1.408:15
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Snake__maverick: did it work?08:16
MetaMorfoziSanybody?08:17
MetaMorfoziScharacter encoding?:((08:17
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Snake__MetaMorfoziS: not sure, sorry :(08:17
maverickits d/l amd installing looking good :P08:17
maverickseemd done whoo :P08:17
Snake__maverick: yay!08:17
Snake__:)08:17
maverickty snake08:17
Snake__maverick: now go get the azurus client08:17
MetaMorfoziSnowhere a reconfigure kde?08:17
MetaMorfoziSor etc?08:17
maverickty kkathman08:17
maverickiam gonn go see :P08:18
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as_2804how do i find out what model is my wifi card in the konsole?08:18
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mavericklol snake08:20
as_2804anyone?08:20
maverickhey snake is my adept not working right?08:20
maverickdoenst seem find files?08:20
Snake__maverick: it should work now ;)08:21
maverickoky08:21
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MetaMorfoziSi'm reobooted:(08:21
MetaMorfoziSand the character coding is'nt solved...08:22
MetaMorfoziSsome characters are replaced with []  :((08:22
maverickhmm nope wont find win32 codecs :(08:22
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Snake__maverick: thats not in the repos08:22
MetaMorfoziSwhere i can set to 8859-2?08:22
MetaMorfoziSany idea?08:22
Snake__maverick: you have to download that one08:22
hawkingwhat is the easiest way to make a program start at startup?08:23
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maverickoh08:23
maverickoky08:24
Snake__maverick: I assume you know where to get it?08:24
Snake__maverick: and theres a special way to install it when you get it, ill tell you how to do that when its done08:24
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?08:27
MetaMorfoziShoho cool08:27
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MetaMorfoziSwhere can i set the performance-using in kde?08:28
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ilba7ranyone know how to change the path in gnome08:29
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Snake__ilba7r: path?08:29
ilba7ryap snake the default search path for appl run from gnome terminal08:30
ilba7rsorry gnome menus08:30
mikehow do i tell what display number my X display is08:30
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Snake__ah not sure08:31
Snake__brb08:31
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ilba7rSnake__, no prob08:31
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sean_mickeni am getting loads of errors in my .xsession file like "end from FAM server connection" .. running kde 3.5.108:32
sean_mickeni especially get a lot when running amarok08:32
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Snake__maverick: So whats up?08:34
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?08:38
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mmartelUT2004 randomly crashes after playing for a few minutes (It's patched, and I have libstdc++5.3.3 and nvidia-glx enabled)...my screen blanks and a sound rapidly repeats, and I have to reboot my computer. Anyone know a fix?08:40
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OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop like in a stock KDE setup?08:47
mavericksnake u about?08:48
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Snake__maverick: yo08:50
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maverickhi nake08:51
Snake__maverick: go to the PM, its easier to trouble shoot08:51
maverickoky :D08:51
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Snake__!mp308:59
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:59
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LeeJunFanis there a "known issues" page for breezy w/ 3.5.1? I've got dapper on here how but not being able to print is getting to me, but don't know if I should go with 3.5.0 or 3.5.1 yet.09:01
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Jecos3.5.1 has issues with keyboard layouts(they are missing).. which sounds like a bug that snuck in when they were packaged..09:02
Jecosgot to 3.5.009:02
kkathman3.5.1 is very buggy09:03
LeeJunFanokay, thanks. I had 3.5.0 on breezy before w/ only tiny issues.09:03
JecosIm sure it will get ironed out soon though09:04
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superdumphello09:04
superdumpi'm trying to find the package that includes the X headers09:04
superdumpbut i'm having little luck09:04
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superdumpdoes anyone know what it is called?09:04
LeeJunFanxserver-xorg-dev09:05
superdumpis it in universe?09:05
Jecosjust add main universe multiverse restricted to all three mirrors to make sure you have everything09:06
kkathmanLeeJunFan: I had some "minor issues" but others have had more serious ones...as usual, it depends on the personal installation09:07
kkathmanbut there are KDE only things that are flaky too09:07
LeeJunFankkathman: remember, I'm charmed during installations :p09:08
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kkathmanwell, LeeJunFan you most certainly dont have the same install as me09:09
kkathmanor anyone :)09:09
kkathmanso thats good09:10
superdumpxserver-xorg-dev isn't in breezy09:10
superdumpin any of the pools09:10
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Jecoswhat do you need it for?09:10
superdumpcompiling konversation09:10
LeeJunFankkathman: well, we will see too because this will be the first time in some time I've done i386. So I'll prob have the same crap luck everyone else does.09:10
kkathmanon my SUSE, I upgraded from 3.4.0 to 3.5.0 with absolutely no flaws whatsoever...but going from 3.4.3 to 3.5.0  in Kubuntu was loaded with errors...so???09:10
kkathmanits just what has to be updated and how much...and what apps are there09:11
superdumpand i'll need it for compiling mplayer later too09:11
Jecosconfig files should be replaced.. but usually pack managers don't replace them09:11
Jecoscompile mplayer for what?09:12
Jecosso it will look better?09:12
superdumpi'm an mplayer developer09:13
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Jecosah ok09:14
superdumpand konversation 0.19 is much better than 0.18, but the package in dapper is built on kde 3.5.blah and i don't want to upgrade yet, so i'm going to compile it myself09:14
superdumpon top of kde 3.4.blah09:14
Jecosyeah...09:15
superdumpi was trying out dapper last night :)09:15
LeeJunFanyeah, it seems -dev is only in dapper, lemme take a look on another system.09:15
superdumpxorg 7 will be awesome once all the composite stuff is working properly09:15
superdumpfor window transparency, fading, drop shadows, etc etc09:15
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LeeJunFanamd drivers will still suck at it though I suspect.09:16
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LeeJunFanerr ati09:16
Jecosnot the opensource ones09:16
superdumpi was using nvidia binary drivers09:17
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superdumpbut it appeared to be doing it all in software09:17
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GameOver69lately my wmv videos run choppy inmplayer?09:17
GameOver69any reason?>09:17
Jecosit pretty much is, glxcompmgr wil be so much better09:17
LeeJunFansuperdump: libx11-dev ?09:18
superdumpthat's what i thought09:18
superdumpbut alas no09:18
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superdumpJecos: well, it was crawling on my 3700+ so it must have been trying to do shitloads09:19
superdump:)09:19
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superdumpit was doing fade in/out of transparent windows09:19
Jecoswell i ran kompmgr on my k7 2800+ and igp320m and it didn't run to well but wasn't horrible.. just lagged a little09:20
RickKnightCan someone tell me just what is "Live CD"?09:20
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LeeJunFanRickKnight: it runs from your CD w/o installing anything on your hd.09:21
LeeJunFanRickKnight: it will of course be much slower than running from hd.09:21
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superdumpmuch slower starting stuff up... or whenever it would normally have to access the hdd09:23
superdumpi also need the X headers for an opengl library i'm using for a university project09:23
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WolfHi everyone!09:25
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RickKnightLeeJunFan: Is the Dapper Live CD supposed to work that way?09:31
superdumphmm, i might just use dapper and get you guys to help me fix any problems i encounter :B09:32
RickKnightLeeJunFan: Right now it's resizing partitions on my drive!09:32
superdumpthough i had a problem when trying to compile something last night09:33
Jecosyou really should only encouter the timezone issue and keyboard layout issue09:33
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superdumpit was some bash problem or something on an install script09:33
superdumpfor blah in blah do\09:33
superdumpif blah then\09:33
superdumpblah09:33
superdumpwas being parsed as doif09:34
superdump=> b0rked09:34
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superdumpdo dapper-updates and dapper-security exist? and would you recommend using main universe multiverse and restricted with dapper yet?09:37
brodelhow can I reset KDE somehow to show the changes I made to the panel now?09:37
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tafsenWhen I run ./configure I get this error: checking for KDE... configure: error:09:38
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Jecosyah I run all those repositories in dapper09:41
tafsenJecos: talking to me?09:41
Jecosno what are you trying to build?09:41
tafsenbaghira theme09:42
Jecosits in the repositories.. is there a new version that runs better ?09:42
tafsenapt-get install baghira ?09:43
Jecosapt-get install kwin-baghira09:43
WolfIs there a program like YaKuake for Gnome?09:43
JecosI don't think so..09:43
Jecosyakuake is nice though09:43
WolfYeah09:44
WolfIt messes up on Gnome.09:44
tafsenIf I installed Kubuntu trough Ubuntu, do I need to change the source,list then?09:44
WolfNo..09:44
WolfJust type in 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'09:45
superdumpJecos: here goes the big update09:45
Jecoshave fun09:45
tafsenJecos: I didn't find it with apt-get09:47
Wolftafsen, Eh...hold on.09:47
Jecosmake sure you don't upper case anything09:49
tafsenWitch version is in the repositories?09:54
Wolf3.5.009:56
Wolf3.5.1 is in Daper.09:56
WolfDapper*09:56
Jecos3.5.0 is in a seperate repository then breezy though09:56
WolfYou can upgrade to that, by changing the reposiories.09:56
Jecosit was released after breezy... did they throw it in breezy-updates?09:57
WolfI thnk so.09:57
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tafsentalking about Baghira :p09:58
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KaZoiTeZgood evening09:58
garnixHi09:58
KaZoiTeZhallo garnix09:59
KaZoiTeZcan i ask a question ? about kubuntu help ?09:59
garnixCan someone give me a hand, I am trying to get a server (ccxstream, but that's not relevant) to start at startup. I've created a script for it in etc/init.d and the script works09:59
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garnixit's been copied over to rc0.d and others, and seems to be correct09:59
garnixbut when I boot up, it's not running. I am not sure where to look10:00
maverickyes :D10:00
maverickcheers snake10:00
garnixKaZoiTeZ: ask away heh10:00
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KaZoiTeZmy Adept is allways crashing when i try to fetch updates, u use the Dakker Drake beta 310:01
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KaZoiTeZdapper drake i mean :)10:02
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C-O-L-Twhere can I chat with linux users, I mean to know them, like in a real chat network10:06
C-O-L-Tnot just talking about bugs and so on :)10:06
KaZoiTeZmaybe here ?10:07
KaZoiTeZ^ ^10:07
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Ilokaasucan somebody help me with Valknut ? i can search in passive mode but download wont start...10:08
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KaZoiTeZC-O-L-T i cant write your private message, cause im not registered :(10:12
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ccc_Ilokaasu: sorry, no. but i can recommend linuxdc++ instead. however you need to build it yourself. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8960310:12
C-O-L-TKaZoiTeZ: I see then you should register yourself10:12
fatejudgersudo gives me the following error when I try and use it: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb  5 20:39:15 200610:12
KaZoiTeZi do ^ ^10:13
KaZoiTeZplz wait10:13
C-O-L-TKaZoiTeZ: the operators won't allow us to chat here10:13
Paradossohi everybody10:13
fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to fix the error above in Dapper?10:13
KaZoiTeZmaybe ICQ or GaduGadu network ?10:13
fatejudgeras it stands, I can't use sudo10:13
Paradossoin my repositories I have unpaired versions of libssl and libssl-dev, which prevents me to install major kde packages10:13
Paradossoanybody has any hints on how to solve this?10:14
KaZoiTeZoh so many ppl that ask questions and no answers :(10:14
KaZoiTeZwhere are the "pros" ?10:14
fatejudgerParadosso: at least you can install packages10:15
fatejudgerParadosso: I can't even change my date and time!10:16
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KaZoiTeZfatejudger can you change your date and time in the Bios configuration ?10:16
fatejudgerwell, I guess I could10:16
KaZoiTeZ:( hmm10:16
fatejudgerbut does that really matter here?10:16
fatejudgersudo is broken10:16
fatejudgerand I NEED to fix it10:16
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KaZoiTeZhmm10:18
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mikehas anybody else had a problem installing Perl::Tk?10:21
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NiliscoIs kword a decent weord editor for kubuntu?  Anything else I should try besides abiword/openoffice?10:28
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LimulusHi hi! ^_^10:29
fatejudgerNilisco: use KOffice10:29
NiliscoI'll give it a shot fatejudger.  Thanks.10:29
fatejudgerNilisco: np10:29
LimulusJust FYI to anyone using i386 and having trouble trying to install kdeedu packages from the 3.5.1 repository10:29
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LimulusI just had a brief chat with Riddell on #kubuntu-devel10:30
tsdgeosLimulus: you're a kubuntu packager?10:30
Limulusand he is aware of the problem and will try to resolve it tomorrow by uploading the missing packages :)10:30
mikeis koffice just open for kde or a whole different suite?10:30
tsdgeosmike: different suite10:31
Limulustsdgeos: no, I just noticed that they were missing ;)10:31
tsdgeosok, i'll bug Riddell again10:31
mikeinteresting10:31
kkathmanmike k-office is like a suite....similar to Open Office10:31
mikeits more feature packed then open office?10:31
kkathmanno10:31
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mikehmm10:32
kkathmanits reasonably new, but has alot of promise10:32
mikei might check it out, i wasnt really impressed with open office10:32
kkathmanOpen Office has been around a while, so has more features I think10:32
kkathmanfor most people, there isnt a ton of difference10:32
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kkathmanthe Krita image editor is a nice alternative to GIMP and is much more intuitive (but less features)10:33
mikei really need to fix that sudo thing...10:33
fatejudgermike: it's a lot faster though10:33
fatejudgermike: and more intuitive10:33
mikeI'm installing it now10:33
brodelhow can I reset KDE somehow to show the changes I made to the panel now?10:33
mikeya, i just didnt like the interface of open10:33
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mikeand its gotta becompatible with excel, because my laptop still runs xp10:34
farousmike regarding compata openoffice is excellent in that respect i don't know though the case for koffice10:34
LeeJunFanbrodel: some changes require you to log out/in10:35
brodelas long as you save it in the MS office format it's fine.10:35
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PaloDeQuesoI just tried sudo -i and it says, "sudo: must be setuid root".10:41
PaloDeQuesoWhat happened?10:41
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kazoitezreturned10:42
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gclarkhello10:43
PaloDeQuesoyea?10:44
gclarkhave an installation question when someone has a moment10:44
connI have a Dell E773p monitor, and it's not displaying 1024x768 properly. I also can't get it to display 1280x1024 in anything but 60Hz regardless of Xorg.conf's settings. Help, please :)10:44
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gclarktrying to get kubuntu 5.1 installed on an Acer Travelmate 230010:44
PaloDeQuesoI just tried sudo -i and it says, "sudo: must be setuid root"?10:44
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fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: sudo -i is not a valid command10:45
PaloDeQuesoI do it all the time.10:45
PaloDeQuesoI used to until about 5 minutes ago10:45
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?10:45
PaloDeQuesowell even if I use sudo then it still says that10:45
PaloDeQuesolike even sudo mv /something /somehwere10:45
PaloDeQuesoit still says that10:46
farousPaloDeQueso, did you enable the root account by any chance10:46
fatejudgerwell I can't help you right now10:46
PaloDeQuesoI don't think so10:46
fatejudgersudo is broken for me too10:46
PaloDeQuesohrm..10:46
PaloDeQuesoHope it wasn't an update10:46
gclarkQuestion: Install hangs at random times during the install process.  Have tried doing noapic, nolapic, acpi=off, etc.10:46
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: I use Dapper10:46
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: so I doubt it10:46
PaloDeQuesoI'm still with breezy10:46
PaloDeQuesoIs dapper usable?10:46
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: yes10:47
PaloDeQuesolast I asked people said it was completely broken.10:47
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: but it's constantly changing10:47
PaloDeQuesoPerhaps I'll give it a try.10:47
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: things break, and things get fixed10:47
PaloDeQuesoyea, I ran breezy beta for a while10:47
KaZoiTeZmy dapper drake works fine10:47
fatejudgerPaloDeQueso: it's kind of annoying actually10:47
fatejudgerI can't use the ATI fglrx drivers in Dapper10:47
PaloDeQuesonot yet.10:47
fatejudgertimezones are broken right now10:48
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KaZoiTeZonly my Adept isnt working10:48
farousPaloDeQueso, try reinstalling sudo or run ksu instead10:48
PaloDeQuesoksu?10:48
fatejudgerand I broke sudo somehow10:48
fatejudgerby changing the time10:48
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farousPaloDeQueso, it is the graphical front end for sudo might work10:48
PaloDeQuesoHow can I reinstall sudo without having sudo available10:48
crimsunno, that's tty tickets from sudo doing it10:48
PaloDeQuesoI can try kdesu10:49
crimsunjust open an additional konsole and use sudo there10:49
gclarktry using the root terminal and setting the root password there?10:49
PaloDeQuesoI've tried both10:49
fatejudgerno one has any idea why sudo is giving me some timestamp error?10:49
chaoticgeekhello all10:50
crimsunfatejudger: I just told you.10:50
fatejudgersound isn't working right now, I think xine is broken10:50
fatejudgercrimsun: ?10:50
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junghow do i upgrade to kde 3.5.1?10:50
crimsunfatejudger: read the last two things I typed10:50
KaZoiTeZmy adept could not get any Packets, only the pakets from the CD no pakets from the internet servers,10:50
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fatejudgercrimsun: wasn't that for the other person?10:50
kkathmanfatejudger:  this explains it  http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/man/sudo.html10:50
PaloDeQuesoHas anyone watched the videos for novell linux 1010:50
PaloDeQueso?10:50
crimsunfatejudger: no, your timestamp issue can be worked around using what I typed10:51
fatejudgercrimsun: wtf, why does that work?10:51
fatejudgercrimsun: and how do I fix the actual issue?10:51
crimsunfatejudger: ...and I told you that, too10:51
chaoticgeekok, well I'm having a bit of problems10:51
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chaoticgeekwait.. I will be right back10:51
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PaloDeQuesoI don't understand, I just installed xqf with sudo and then boom sudo was broken?!?!?10:51
fatejudgercrimsun: no, you told me the workaround10:52
fatejudgercrimsun: it's kind of difficult to follow what you're saying if you don't highlight my name10:52
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crimsunfatejudger: the issue lies in libc6 dropping timezone, which has migrated to locales10:53
fatejudgercrimsun: so they're doing it the Windows way now?10:53
crimsunfatejudger: if you want to read why the workaround works, read sudo's documentation on tty tickets10:53
gclarkQuestion: Install hangs at random times during the install process.  Have tried doing noapic, nolapic, acpi=off.  CD verifies correctly.  Any ideas?10:53
crimsunfatejudger: "the Windows way"?10:53
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fatejudgercrimsun: Windows doesn't offset the time from UMT like Linux does10:54
fatejudgercrimsun: it just sets the system time to the local time10:54
chaoticgeekok, ya I'm having problems10:54
crimsunfatejudger: err no, that hasn't changed at all. The only change is in which actual package ships timezone info.10:54
fatejudgercrimsun: well how do I get the timezones back?10:55
chaoticgeekOk, I went to wiki.ubuntu.com and I did the nvidia binary driver install, then I did 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and selected 1280x1024 however I still can not get 1280x102410:55
crimsunfatejudger: it should have been fixed with the latest libc6 and locales upgrades10:55
crimsunfatejudger: otherwise run tzconfig manually10:55
chaoticgeekon ubuntu I was able to do that right after doing the nvidia binary driver install10:56
maedid anyone have their timezones dissapear in latest dapper?10:56
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PaloDeQuesook, it seems no matter how I try to use the root accout, su, sudo, kdesu, etc... it says that same thing.10:56
PaloDeQuesoI'm confused.10:56
fatejudgercrimsun: ok, thanks10:56
fatejudgercrimsun: that wasn't working before10:56
crimsunmae: just rerun tzconfig manually10:56
chaoticgeekanyone have any ideas for me?10:56
fatejudgerI think xine is broken10:57
maecrimsun: my tz is set correctly, but all the timezones dissapeared -- i can't set diff tz's in applets , it only shows UTC timezone10:57
fatejudgermae: update10:57
maefatejudger: i have run all the updates10:58
fatejudgermae: then rerun tzconfig10:58
crimsunif you track Dapper, you need to update hourly10:58
fatejudgercrimsun: seriously10:58
fatejudgercrimsun: although there haven't been any updates today10:58
crimsun(yeah, the weekend and such)10:58
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maeok tzconfig just lets me set my localtime11:01
fatejudgerI thought ATI had released a new version of their drivers11:02
maelike i said my problem is that all the timezones have dissapeared from the kde clock applet11:02
fatejudgerthat works with the new kernel11:02
maeonly the default 'c' utc timezone shows up11:02
fatejudgermae: sudo tzconfig11:02
maefatejudger: i did that11:02
maefatejudger: all it does is modify /etc/localtime11:02
fatejudgeryea11:02
maeit doesn't make missing timezones magically appear11:02
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fatejudgermae: well it shows the timezones for me11:04
fatejudgermae: is xine broken for you?11:04
fatejudgermae: amarok isn't working with xine11:04
maefatejudger: did you grab the latest 3.5.111:04
maenah mine is working11:04
maebut i noticed they borked the 3.5.1 package quite a bit11:04
maeamarok gstreamer engine dissappeared11:05
maei think my tz issue might also have something to do w/ it :)11:05
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fatejudgermae: yeah, I can't compile amarok with gstreamer11:06
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gclarkSo no ideas for the installer hangup?11:11
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KaZoiTeZhey11:13
KaZoiTeZmy adept could not get any Packets, only the pakets from the CD no pakets from the internet servers,11:13
KaZoiTeZis my sources.list11:13
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Mazingarois there anyone playing with doom3????11:17
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KaZoiTeZim playing doom311:20
KaZoiTeZbut on win3211:20
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Steven_MDoes anyonyone know whether kubuntu has a built-in firewall.11:30
Steven_M?11:30
alemanSteven_M: not that I know of11:31
alemanwhat I find to be the easiest solution is to download Bastille11:31
Kejk_PLSteven_M: user@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search firewall kde11:31
Kejk_PLguarddog - firewall configuration utility for KDE11:31
alemanit only takes like 4 mins to have it up and running11:31
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Kaiser_SleepsSteven_M: the firewall is part of the kernel - iptables11:34
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Kaiser_Sleepsit's the configuration gui that you have to find for yourself (and there's plenty about)11:35
Steven_Mthanks both of you. Does it it work when you're in other window managers too?11:35
Zappaanyone tried to run kylix 3 on ubuntu? i'm getting some odd error11:36
Steven_Mbrb11:36
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morgajel|draccusquick question- a friend installed kubuntu and is having soundcard issues. I told him to run alsaconf, but he says it doesn't exist, depsite alsa-utils being installed.  any idea why it isn't there, or if it got moved to a different package?11:43
=== MetaMorfoziS good night
crimsun*buntu doesn't install alsaconf11:43
morgajel|draccuscrimsun: hrm.11:44
morgajel|draccuswell, is there a workaround? that's pretty important functionality11:44
crimsunhe needs to describe to me what his config is11:45
morgajel|draccusalright, let me herd him in here.11:46
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morgajel|draccuscrimsun: brad is the one having issues11:46
bradhi11:47
crimsunhi11:47
crimsunmust be in the charlotte area11:47
bradi appreciate you taking the time to help me11:47
morgajel|draccusbrad: ok, explain the issue from the top11:47
bradi am11:47
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bradok, I just installed kubuntu. My machine is a 1 year old clone box with a via onboard sound card.  I have installed most of the packages that it seems like I should.  I have a screen shot of what the OS thinks is installed here : http://braddoro.com/private/kinfocenter.png  I have tested the speakers, they work.  and when I play a song, the player THINKS it is playing it. I see the sound abrd moving and the song tracking11:49
Nomad411brad: Check what settings you have with kmix?11:50
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Nomad411could somethign be mute?11:50
bradNomad411:  the volume is up on everything, is that what you mean?11:50
Nomad411and unmuted too I'm sure :)11:50
Nomad411Then your player may be set to output to something else than your speakers..11:51
bradglowing means unmuted, right?11:51
Nomad411I think so :)11:51
Nomad411And, I'm sure you checked, but the speakers are plugged in to the proper outlet? (Green I think)11:51
Nomad411Just eliminating the obvious things11:52
bradNomad411: hehe, yes I checked11:52
Nomad411good :)11:52
bradand I plugged them into a seperate source and they play11:52
Nomad411then check into the output of the player maybe11:52
Nomad411different players?11:52
crimsunpastebin the output from ``amixer'' in a Konsole onto pastebin11:52
Nomad411!vmplayer11:52
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41111:52
bradi tried xmms, kaffene and amaroak11:53
Nomad411ummm11:53
Nomad411what are you playing, a CD or a file?11:53
bradi ahve tried both but right now I am playing a file I just ripped11:53
bradcrimsun:  I don't understand how to do that11:54
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crimsunopen a Konsole, type amixer, and paste the output onto the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org Web site11:54
bradaah11:54
bradhere it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/808211:56
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crimsunbrad: are you actually using the optical/digital output?11:59
braduuuh11:59
bradi don't think so11:59
PaloDeQuesoCan I use a live boot disc to fix my sudo problem?12:00
bradI'm just using the normal output that I have always used12:00
Nomad411Does anyone know if the vmplayer plays windows XP?12:00
PaloDeQuesoanytime I try to use sudo, su, kdesu or anything like that, it says. "sudo: must be setuid root"12:00
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