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| Pupeno | hello. | 12:41 |
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| Pupeno | Any ideas what might be triggering this error: "Use of uninitialized value in scalar assignment at /usr/bin/dh_shlibdeps line 138, <COMPAT_IN> line 1." ? | 12:41 |
| Mez | Pupeno, depend what you're doing to make it | 12:44 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, around? | 12:44 |
| Pupeno | Mez: I am running "dh_shlibdeps -a --exclude=plot -l`pwd`/debian/mzscheme/usr/lib/plt/lib/" | 12:44 |
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| ajmitch_ | stratus: just got back | 12:56 |
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| stratus | ajmitch_, do you care about mono? | 01:12 |
| hub | stratus: given that he packages lot of things for Mono, I think he does | 01:19 |
| stratus | hub, i know about that, thanks. | 01:20 |
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| ajmitch_ | stratus: yes? | 01:28 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, mono (source) needs a rebuild in dapper, mono-jit is uninstallable due to mono-classlib old dep. | 01:28 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, mono-classlib-1.0-1.1.10 doesn't exists in dapper | 01:29 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, btw mono-classlib-1.0 provides mono-classlib-1.0-1.1.13.2 | 01:29 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, i was going to prepare a source package but i'm having some problems debootstrapping a new dapper chroot right now. | 01:30 |
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| ajmitch_ | stratus: ppc, right? | 01:32 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, sure | 01:32 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, i'm sorry i forgot to tell you the arch :) | 01:32 |
| ajmitch_ | find someone with an smp ppc box & we'll try & fix it | 01:33 |
| hub | ajmitch_: smp? | 01:33 |
| ajmitch_ | hub: it seems to fail only on ppc | 01:33 |
| ajmitch_ | smp ppc | 01:33 |
| stratus | yes, is smp really necessary? | 01:33 |
| hub | ajmitch_: I have one PPC | 01:33 |
| hub | not very live | 01:33 |
| hub | but it is workeable | 01:34 |
| stratus | no, no | 01:34 |
| ajmitch_ | stratus: it works on single-proc | 01:34 |
| hub | I could finish upgrading it to dapper | 01:34 |
| stratus | the problem with the dep is on ppc up too | 01:34 |
| stratus | i can see it on my ibook g4 right now | 01:34 |
| ajmitch_ | stratus: buildd is smp | 01:34 |
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| ajmitch_ | stratus: it's been a recurring problem that we can't fix with source uploads, until the problem itself is addressed | 01:35 |
| ajmitch_ | new upstream versions haven't helped | 01:35 |
| ajmitch_ | and it seems to build adequately on a UP PPC box | 01:36 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, oh i don't know about the problem, can you elaborate a bit more? | 01:36 |
| ajmitch_ | not very much, tseng & slomo have looked at it more than I have | 01:36 |
| stratus | weird, but what's the side effect if we just bump up the mono-classlib depends on mono source package? | 01:37 |
| ajmitch_ | things would likely break | 01:38 |
| ajmitch_ | it's a specific version dependency because the engine & classlib are closely tied | 01:38 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, but for example is tomboy installable in non-ppc atm ? | 01:39 |
| ajmitch_ | afaik it is? | 01:39 |
| stratus | i don't know really. | 01:39 |
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| stratus | i asked to see how spread the bug was | 01:39 |
| ajmitch_ | just ppc | 01:39 |
| ajmitch_ | beagle problems are separate | 01:40 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, oh ok. | 01:40 |
| stratus | ajmitch_, thank you for the feedback. | 01:41 |
| ajmitch_ | sorry that it's not fixed yet :) | 01:41 |
| stratus | np, sorry that i can't help fixing it atm. | 01:41 |
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| iBalo | Could someone please pack up a decent Bittorrent-client for Dapper (e.g. http://rufus.sf.net). Azureus sucks like most Java-stuff (and is banned on many trackers) and most others don't have features like downloading of selected files only . etc... | 02:27 |
| StevenK | iBalo: bittornado does | 02:28 |
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| LaserJock | your welcome to contribute if you want ;-) | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: ping ? | 02:28 |
| raphink | iBalo: package it | 02:28 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 02:29 |
| raphink | iBalo: I'll be happy to help you if you need, but if you want an app in, you're the best man to get it in | 02:29 |
| raphink | hi sistpoty | 02:29 |
| iBalo | but does not integrate into gnome (no freedesktop tray support), multpiple downloads are a pain in the butt with it and .... i stop whining... u all know the story | 02:29 |
| raphink | iBalo: please read the answers on the screen now that you're done typing ;) | 02:30 |
| iBalo | ... yep :-) | 02:30 |
| raphink | iBalo: just so you get the point, we are no more than 100 devs in Ubuntu in total | 02:31 |
| raphink | for about 8M users iirc | 02:31 |
| raphink | we can't package every app users want | 02:32 |
| raphink | but you can package the app you want and we can help you to do it | 02:32 |
| iBalo | hehe... i was just about to ask for handholding... | 02:32 |
| raphink | iBalo: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU if you're willing to help | 02:33 |
| iBalo | When does it have to be ready for Dapper release | 02:33 |
| raphink | and begin with reading New Debian Maintainer's Guide ;) | 02:33 |
| iBalo | ... had a couple of glances earlier | 02:33 |
| raphink | if you want it in Dapper, you still have a bit less than a month to get it in | 02:33 |
| iBalo | ouch! | 02:34 |
| raphink | oh well that' sfar enough ;) | 02:34 |
| raphink | you get a week or two to learn to package | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | what app are you taklin' about ? | 02:34 |
| raphink | that can be done | 02:34 |
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| iBalo | it's not that i never packaged before.. it's the python i've got to learn | 02:35 |
| raphink | there are python packages experts around iirc | 02:35 |
| raphink | i'm not one I'm afraid | 02:35 |
| raphink | look at python packages on REVU | 02:36 |
| raphink | that should help | 02:36 |
| iBalo | I will seriously consider that. Anyway it's ready when it's ready, and it won't for sure be on the install-cd | 02:37 |
| sistpoty | python packaging is easy... just provide a setup.py and dh_python does all hard parts :) | 02:37 |
| deletionlogger | raphink: already had time to look at the package? | 02:38 |
| raphink | it won't be on the install-cd for sure iBalo since nothing from universe is | 02:38 |
| raphink | deletionlogger: sure | 02:38 |
| sistpoty | (at least python modules) | 02:38 |
| deletionlogger | ah | 02:38 |
| iBalo | I read through the forums on the sf page... the problem is, the author is a win-guy and often just thinks not in linux terms | 02:38 |
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| raphink | iBalo: hehe | 02:39 |
| raphink | iBalo: you mean the upstream tarball is a .zip ? | 02:39 |
| deletionlogger | raphink: ok, will fix that stuff | 02:39 |
| iBalo | So to make it work to my standards this will require more than just pack the thing up | 02:40 |
| === raphink saw a .zip upstream tarball today and didn't feel like reviewing it | ||
| raphink | iBalo: ok | 02:40 |
| raphink | deletionlogger: I hope so | 02:40 |
| raphink | and I'll go to bed now | 02:40 |
| sistpoty | gn8 raphink | 02:40 |
| iBalo | But ok, that's a fair deal... if i can get some handholding, I'll give it a try | 02:41 |
| raphink | thanks sistpoty | 02:41 |
| raphink | :) | 02:41 |
| raphink | iBalo: don't hesitate asking for help here | 02:41 |
| raphink | iBalo: there are many docs on the wiki too, use them :) | 02:42 |
| raphink | iBalo: when you think you've got a good package, upload it to REVU and ping one of us here to review it | 02:42 |
| iBalo | Ok, I'll investigate that further after a couple of hours of sleep, | 02:43 |
| raphink | sure | 02:44 |
| ToadZzZztool | hi, before sleeping... could anyone here have a look at my dhcpv6-kame package ? I've already uploaded it to REVU | 02:46 |
| raphink | ToadZzZztool: ok very quick then | 02:47 |
| raphink | give me the link | 02:47 |
| raphink | and a url to the upstream tarball | 02:47 |
| raphink | and i'll generate a report | 02:47 |
| ToadZzZztool | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1642 | 02:48 |
| ToadZzZztool | this one ? | 02:48 |
| raphink | ok | 02:48 |
| ToadZzZztool | and the upstream tarball is hidden in ftp.kame.net | 02:48 |
| raphink | and a url to the upstream tarball please | 02:48 |
| hub | can somebody review this: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1472 | 02:48 |
| ToadZzZztool | raphink: i'm trying to find the complete url | 02:49 |
| raphink | hub: same here, give me a link to the upstream tarball | 02:49 |
| raphink | I'll generate a report | 02:49 |
| raphink | and I'll review tomorrow | 02:49 |
| hub | raphink: ok | 02:49 |
| raphink | thanks ToadZzZztool | 02:49 |
| hub | raphink: I'll put it in a comment, is that ok? | 02:49 |
| raphink | hub: I'd rather you give me the link here | 02:50 |
| hub | http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~dhh/tools.d/exifprobe.d/exifprobe-2.0.1.tar.gz | 02:50 |
| raphink | so I can launch the report tool right now | 02:50 |
| hub | then here it is :-) | 02:50 |
| hub | okay | 02:50 |
| raphink | now let's wait | 02:50 |
| raphink | :) | 02:50 |
| raphink | ToadZzZztool: got the link? | 02:51 |
| ToadZzZztool | argh looks like they've removed the files this week | 02:51 |
| hub | raphink: btw, what to do with files in the wrong mode? | 02:51 |
| raphink | ToadZzZztool: I need the upstrem tarball though | 02:51 |
| ToadZzZztool | in fact this is a big tarball containing the whole kame IPv6 stuff | 02:51 |
| hub | 600 instead of 644 | 02:51 |
| ToadZzZztool | including the dhcpv6 | 02:52 |
| raphink | hub: either change them in the source tarball, which is not clean | 02:52 |
| raphink | or change their mode in debian/rules | 02:52 |
| hub | ok | 02:52 |
| raphink | or just installthem with the right mode in debian/rules or debian/install | 02:52 |
| raphink | ToadZzZztool: I just want to get the tarball you used for the package | 02:52 |
| ToadZzZztool | oki then i'll put it on my website | 02:52 |
| raphink | hub: the report for exifprobe was generated | 02:53 |
| raphink | check the page | 02:53 |
| raphink | and I'll have a look at it later | 02:53 |
| raphink | ToadZzZztool: i'd rather have the one from them | 02:53 |
| hub | ok | 02:53 |
| ToadZzZztool | raphink: it's only a part of the whole tarball i've re-tared | 02:54 |
| ToadZzZztool | with no modifications at all | 02:54 |
| raphink | propos vous avez remarqu qu'on est 3 francophones parler en anglais l ? ;) | 02:54 |
| ToadZzZztool | arf | 02:54 |
| raphink | hmmpf | 02:54 |
| hub | what are you talking about? | 02:54 |
| ToadZzZztool | ouais en fait c'est vrai :) | 02:54 |
| hub | ;-/ | 02:54 |
| raphink | hub: :p :p | 02:54 |
| hub | tabarnak | 02:54 |
| ToadZzZztool | :) | 02:55 |
| raphink | bon allez au lit | 02:55 |
| raphink | je regarderait a demain | 02:55 |
| ToadZzZztool | bonne nuit | 02:55 |
| hub | raphink: bonne nuit | 02:55 |
| raphink | hub: tu peux jeter un oeil au paquet de ToadZzZztool si tu as le temps ? | 02:55 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:55 |
| ToadZzZztool | :) | 02:55 |
| raphink | vu qu'il est plus tt chez toi ;) | 02:55 |
| hub | ToadZzZztool: c'est quel paquet? | 02:55 |
| raphink | ++ | 02:55 |
| ToadZzZztool | hub: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1642 | 02:56 |
| ToadZzZztool | bon allez dodo aussi | 02:56 |
| ToadZzZztool | bonne nuit | 02:56 |
| Kyral | Hate me for I installed FC4 on my lapop | 03:00 |
| hub | Kyral: I installed SuSE the otherday | 03:02 |
| hub | Kyral: i lasted 24h, I installed KUbuntu | 03:02 |
| Kyral | lol | 03:02 |
| Kyral | Well, my laptop is just a toy | 03:02 |
| hub | Kyral: it is my workstation | 03:03 |
| Kyral | I know all about Ubuntu | 03:03 |
| Kyral | So I thought I'd learn about Fedora on my lappy :D | 03:04 |
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| Kyral | I still like Ubuntu more... | 03:05 |
| Kyral | I found SuSE slow as hell | 03:06 |
| Kyral | YaST is great mind you, but the crap performance turned me off | 03:06 |
| Kyral | Don't worry, AzureDream (my production box) will always run Ubuntu | 03:07 |
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| === sistpoty recently had to update a srv from suse 9.0 to 9.3... that sucked very much | ||
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| Kyral | Gah but FC4 is so out of date... | 03:08 |
| Kyral | Its taking like 500 Megs to bring it up to date | 03:09 |
| Kyral | but its kinda cool that it has SELinux by default | 03:09 |
| ajmitch_ | Tonio_: yes? | 03:11 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: I have a problem to get my revu account password.... | 03:14 |
| ajmitch_ | what problem? | 03:14 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: impossible to decrypt since I don't have the ELG-E key.... | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | gpg: encrypted with ELG-E key, ID 28E2DD3A | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: do I miss something ? | 03:15 |
| ajmitch_ | do you have a sign-only key? | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: what do you mean by "sign-only" ? | 03:16 |
| ajmitch_ | a key that can only be used for signing | 03:17 |
| Tonio_ | ah, no, that's normally a normal key | 03:18 |
| Tonio_ | I can sign and crypt with it.... | 03:18 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: what's the email you use for revu? | 03:20 |
| Tonio_ | anthony.mercatante@laposte.net | 03:20 |
| ajmitch_ | keyserver is giving me issues today | 03:21 |
| ajmitch_ | Tonio_: sistpoty can probably answer your questions far better :) | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: okay I'll se with him :) | 03:22 |
| Tonio_ | ajmitch_: just testing at my key, and maybe it is a sign-only one... | 03:24 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: I just sent you an encrypted mail with the pw. hopefully you can decrypt it ;) | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | I never crypt anything, so I may be wrong when I say it could | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | sistpoty: just trying | 03:24 |
| Tonio_ | sistpoty: it worked, thank you ;) | 03:26 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: np ;) | 03:26 |
| Tonio_ | sistpoty: just cause I like to understand, what was wrong in the process ? is it a known problem ? | 03:26 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: not quite sure what's wrong exactly... | 03:27 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: to my knowledge, the lost-pw feature just takes the pw and your keyid and crypts the pw with your key | 03:27 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: but siretart wrote that part, so maybe there is some more trickery involved ;) | 03:27 |
| Tonio_ | sistpoty: that's exactly what you've done for the mail you sent me no ? | 03:28 |
| ajmitch_ | ah, delegation of blame :) | 03:28 |
| sistpoty | hehe, actually I just wanted to say: dunno :) | 03:28 |
| sistpoty | Tonio_: yep | 03:29 |
| Tonio_ | well it works, that the only important thing :) | 03:30 |
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| glick | excuse me im trying to built the package gtk-gnutella according to the directions offered by the debian maintainers guide | 04:31 |
| glick | but i always get this error... | 04:31 |
| glick | install: cannot stat `gtk-gnutella.desktop': No such file or directory | 04:31 |
| glick | make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 | 04:31 |
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| glick | in the main source directory i issue the command dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 04:32 |
| glick | and i get that error | 04:32 |
| glick | then i tried fakeroot debian/rules binary | 04:32 |
| glick | same deal | 04:33 |
| LaserJock | glick: so do you have a gtk-gnutella.desktop? | 04:35 |
| glick | LaserJock, whats that? | 04:35 |
| LaserJock | a file | 04:35 |
| glick | no shit | 04:36 |
| glick | i obviously dont have it | 04:36 |
| LaserJock | ok, well you don't have to swear at me. Are you calling dh_desktop in debian/rules? | 04:37 |
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| glick | LaserJock, no man i just do fakeroot debian/rules binary | 04:38 |
| LaserJock | can you paste the debian/rules in a pastebin somewhere? | 04:40 |
| glick | LaserJock, http://pastebin.com/539570 | 04:42 |
| glick | man i wish they had half decent docs on how to build packages | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | we are working on an ubuntu packaging guide but it is still a work in progress | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | should be ready for Dapper release | 04:43 |
| glick | coo | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, so you should have a .desktop file in debian/ | 04:44 |
| glick | no such file exists | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | ok, so that's the problem. you should either look for one in the source directory or make one. | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | you can check out other .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ | 04:45 |
| glick | what does that file do? | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | it puts the app in the menu mostly | 04:45 |
| LaserJock | you could not include it but then the app wouldn't be in the menu | 04:46 |
| LaserJock | so pretty much all gui apps should have .desktop files | 04:46 |
| glick | i find it hard to believe that it wouldnt come with one | 04:47 |
| glick | i remimber building it before, some dude online walked me through it | 04:47 |
| glick | and i didnt have to create or edit any desktop file | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | well the source could install it but your debian/rules file expects to find one in debian/ | 04:48 |
| LaserJock | can you see one in the source directory? | 04:48 |
| glick | id ont see one | 04:49 |
| LaserJock | does the source have a Makefile? | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | you can check the "install" rule in the Makefile to see if it is installing it | 04:51 |
| glick | screw it i just installed the .deb from the website | 04:56 |
| glick | seems to be working fine | 04:56 |
| LaserJock | glick: If you just wanted to install it for yourself you could have just taken out that line in debian/rules that tries to install the .desktop file | 04:58 |
| glick | oh | 04:58 |
| glick | eh whateva its cool, as long as it works | 04:58 |
| glick | thanks though | 04:58 |
| LaserJock | np ;-) | 04:58 |
| glick | anyone here use ghdl? | 04:58 |
| glick | i gotta play with that | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | no, sorry I don't | 05:01 |
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| zakame | hi MOTUs | 07:12 |
| ajmitch_ | hi zakame | 07:13 |
| ajmitch_ | recovered from meeting sabdfl yet? | 07:14 |
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| zakame | ajmitch_: of course, now switching to regular programming | 07:14 |
| ajmitch_ | hehe | 07:14 |
| zakame | how's the rollout? | 07:14 |
| ajmitch_ | apparantly done | 07:15 |
| ajmitch_ | though I've seen no mails to dapper-changes | 07:15 |
| Amaranth | we're on soyuz now? | 07:15 |
| ajmitch_ | wouldn't surprise me if that was broken | 07:15 |
| ajmitch_ | Amaranth: yes | 07:15 |
| StevenK | I saw one. | 07:15 |
| zakame | w00t!!! | 07:15 |
| ajmitch_ | StevenK: before or after the "we're open for business" message? | 07:16 |
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| ajmitch_ | it could be my procmail filtering is askew | 07:16 |
| StevenK | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-February/005853.html | 07:17 |
| StevenK | I think that's after. | 07:17 |
| ajmitch_ | hm, I haven't got that mail or many of those in my dapper-changes folder | 07:20 |
| StevenK | ajmitch_: Seen this? | 07:21 |
| StevenK | steven@liquified:~% uname -m | 07:21 |
| StevenK | x86_64 | 07:21 |
| Amaranth | is that "Accepted" stuff on the bottom new? | 07:21 |
| StevenK | Amaranth: No, it's different. | 07:21 |
| StevenK | Amaranth: Compare konq-pim and poppler | 07:21 |
| Amaranth | i thought so | 07:21 |
| ajmitch_ | the last mail I have in the folder in konq-pim | 07:22 |
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| ajmitch_ | StevenK: hm? what's special about that? no amd? | 07:22 |
| StevenK | ajmitch_: That was the last katie mail. | 07:22 |
| zakame | heya Hobbsee | 07:22 |
| StevenK | ajmitch_: That I'm now on an amd64 instead of my dual Athlon. | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | hey zakame | 07:23 |
| ajmitch_ | StevenK: aha | 07:23 |
| StevenK | ajmitch_: Which stands to reason that Soyuz has changed the mail headers, and therefore broken your filtering. | 07:23 |
| ajmitch_ | StevenK: congrats, can I be jealous now? | 07:23 |
| StevenK | ajmitch_: Sure. :-) | 07:23 |
| ajmitch_ | StevenK: sure, but I'm trying to track down what folder it ended up in :) | 07:23 |
| === ajmitch_ is grepping his procmail logs :) | ||
| StevenK | ajmitch_: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/img_0920.jpg | 07:23 |
| === StevenK switched from procmail to Sieve | ||
| ajmitch_ | nice little case | 07:24 |
| === StevenK nods. | ||
| ajmitch_ | compared to the monster I have waiting for the dual-core amd64 I've priced up :) | 07:24 |
| ajmitch_ | what do you have in it? | 07:24 |
| ajmitch_ | From dapper-changes-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com Sun Feb 05 06:36:12 2006 | 07:25 |
| ajmitch_ | Subject: Accepted rhythmbox 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu1 (source) | 07:25 |
| ajmitch_ | Folder: launchpad 6199 | 07:25 |
| ajmitch_ | bah | 07:25 |
| === ajmitch_ just checked that folder | ||
| StevenK | It's only a Celery 2.8 unfortunately. | 07:25 |
| StevenK | (All I could afford) | 07:25 |
| ajmitch_ | I see there's too much bug mail in there, I have to split it | 07:25 |
| ajmitch_ | at least they still have an X-Katie header | 07:25 |
| StevenK | However, the motherboard can deal with the newer dual core CPUs, too. | 07:25 |
| ajmitch_ | so what's your new amd64 box? | 07:26 |
| StevenK | ajmitch_: A Celery 2.8, 512Mb RAM, 80Gb PATA | 07:26 |
| StevenK | Nothing special, really. | 07:26 |
| ajmitch_ | ah, em64t? | 07:26 |
| StevenK | Yup | 07:26 |
| ajmitch_ | I didn't realise the celerons were 64 bit now | 07:27 |
| StevenK | It's small, quiet, and can compile xemacs21 without throwing an ICE. | 07:27 |
| === ajmitch_ is aiming for something a little faster | ||
| ajmitch_ | since it has to replace my athlon xp 1800+ | 07:27 |
| ajmitch_ | List-Id: header is split over 2 lines | 07:27 |
| ajmitch_ | which broke my procmail filter | 07:27 |
| ajmitch_ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds still doesn't look at all helpful | 07:30 |
| StevenK | You're right. | 07:34 |
| StevenK | It feels ... clunky. | 07:34 |
| zakame | well that at least a step nearer soyuz :) | 07:35 |
| ajmitch_ | a lot of launchpad's UI still feels very clunky | 07:36 |
| ajmitch_ | like the stock forms have been used & it hasn't been tweaked suitably for the data being displayed | 07:37 |
| === StevenK nods. | ||
| ajmitch_ | '1-20 of 1,000,000 results' isn't useful :) | 07:37 |
| zakame | heh | 07:37 |
| ajmitch_ | I guess we'll just have to put pressure on them until they break :) | 07:38 |
| ajmitch_ | "go harass your local launchpad developer today!" | 07:38 |
| Hobbsee | rofl | 07:38 |
| Kyral | lol | 07:38 |
| zakame | hehe | 07:39 |
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| StevenK | I think the Distro team is going to kill the Launchpad team before long. :-) | 07:39 |
| zakame | worth to put that in /topic? | 07:39 |
| ajmitch_ | zakame: sure :) | 07:39 |
| === ajmitch_ is fortunate to have one within walking distance now ;) | ||
| Hobbsee | hey you people can probably help me. I've got a chroot created in ~/breezy, and i need to build a package in the chroot - how do i go about doing that? (i already have a dapper pbuilder) | 07:39 |
| ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: ah, it would be easier to use a breezy pbuilder setup, instead of a chroot | 07:40 |
| ajmitch_ | but otherwise you just use chroot to get into there, and build the source normally | 07:40 |
| Hobbsee | right, which means i'd overwrite my dapper one? | 07:40 |
| ajmitch_ | no, you have separate configs for pbuilder | 07:40 |
| zakame | yep | 07:41 |
| === ajmitch_ has hoary,breezy,dapper,sarge & sid pbuilder setups | ||
| zakame | so you could just do `dchroot -c breezy` | 07:41 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 07:41 |
| Hobbsee | dchroot -c breezy - what's that do? | 07:41 |
| === StevenK has 5 pbuilder chroots. | ||
| StevenK | Two each for Breezy and Dapper (i386 and amd64), and one for Sid i386. | 07:42 |
| === zakame loves chroots | ||
| ajmitch_ | StevenK: sadly I only have i386 to play with at the moment | 07:43 |
| === StevenK has found and fixed a build failure using the new interface. | ||
| === ajmitch_ is going to go back to reading a book | ||
| ajmitch_ | computers irritate me today | 07:44 |
| StevenK | Blah. | 07:44 |
| ajmitch_ | :) | 07:44 |
| StevenK | What do I use to sign a dsc and changes files? | 07:45 |
| === StevenK is having a blonde moment. | ||
| ajmitch_ | debsign | 07:45 |
| StevenK | Ah, ta | 07:45 |
| ajmitch_ | or debrsign if your gpg key is on another box | 07:45 |
| zakame | debsign? | 07:45 |
| zakame | (though gpg --clearsign should also work) | 07:45 |
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| zakame | wb LaserJock_ | 08:13 |
| LaserJock_ | thanks zakame | 08:16 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 10:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi phanatic | 10:58 |
| phanatic | re Gloubiboulga | 10:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | morning \sh | 11:02 |
| \sh | moins | 11:03 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:\sh] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | ||
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| \sh | guys, who is playing the proxy to mdz/kamion for UVF exceptions while dholbach is on holiday? | 11:08 |
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| siretart | morning | 12:01 |
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| \sh | moins siretart | 12:07 |
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| VincentMX | hi | 01:59 |
| VincentMX | is it hard to make packages? i want to help Ubuntu | 02:00 |
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| sivang | VincentMX: this may have some stuff to start with, search around the wiki there are plenty of resources http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/ | 02:06 |
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| VincentMX | ok | 02:09 |
| sebest | VincentMX some software are more difficult to package than others | 02:10 |
| VincentMX | ok | 02:10 |
| sebest | package with good autotooling are quite easy | 02:10 |
| VincentMX | ok | 02:11 |
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| VincentMX | hmm, i've read the page for how to create a package with debhelper, but that involves compiling | 02:18 |
| VincentMX | doesn't that require a fast computer? | 02:18 |
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| VincentMX | my computer should be fast enough, but my BIOS kinda sucks, so i have 2 bars of 64MB RAM, witch should make 128. but my BIOS is too old, so it won't get more out of it as 88MB :S | 02:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | VincentMX, get a source package and try to build it | 02:27 |
| VincentMX | ok | 02:27 |
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| zakame | evening MOTUs :) | 02:40 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello zakame | 02:41 |
| zakame | heya Gloubiboulga :) | 02:41 |
| Gloubiboulga | zakame, my libswitch package has been uploaded :) | 02:42 |
| Gloubiboulga | `binary-indep: binary-arch' was ok | 02:42 |
| zakame | Gloubiboulga: cool, I'll try building it then :) | 02:43 |
| nlindblad | I need a German | 02:56 |
| zakame | er? | 02:57 |
| nlindblad | I must talk grammar | 02:58 |
| nlindblad | preferable German grammar | 02:58 |
| zakame | Gloubiboulga: hmm where is it? I couldn't find it in REVU :/ | 03:05 |
| zakame | oh it's at the very bottom, ready for upload | 03:06 |
| Gloubiboulga | zakame, yes, ready to gp | 03:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | waiting for elmo now | 03:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | s/gp/go | 03:07 |
| zakame | Gloubiboulga: ooh, my bad, I thought you meant it needed REVU, it was uploaded already, silly me :P | 03:08 |
| zakame | Gloubiboulga: rock on then with gswitch :D | 03:08 |
| Gloubiboulga | zakame, gswitch depends on libswicth, and can't be build with pbuilder for the moment | 03:09 |
| zakame | yeah | 03:10 |
| zakame | but it'll be just a while, or maybe a day | 03:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | yep | 03:10 |
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| Toadstool | hi everybody | 04:19 |
| Toadstool | i'd like my package to be REVUed but i need to provide the upstream tarball, the problem is i've only packaged a part of a very big tarball | 04:20 |
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| Toadstool | should I provide a clean retared version of the part I packaged ? | 04:21 |
| zakame | hm, why is it BIG? | 04:22 |
| Toadstool | 'cause it's the kame IPv6 pack which contains all the kernels patches and a lot of IPv6 daemons such as rtadvd | 04:22 |
| Toadstool | and I've only packaged the dhcpv6 part | 04:23 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all | 04:24 |
| Toadstool | hi | 04:24 |
| Toadstool | any suggestion about my problem ? :) | 04:24 |
| zakame | heya Hirion Tonio_ | 04:25 |
| zakame | Toadstool: ah | 04:25 |
| Tonio_ | Toadstool: I think if you explain clearly that you extracted a part of big tarball in the changelog, that might be okay | 04:27 |
| Toadstool | hum ok | 04:27 |
| Tonio_ | Toadstool: although you might be ask "why didn't you package the all application" ^^ | 04:27 |
| Toadstool | because radvd and the other apps are already packaged but there's no decent dhcpv6 solution for the moment :) | 04:28 |
| Tonio_ | that can be explained in the changelog too ;) | 04:29 |
| Toadstool | let's do that then | 04:29 |
| Tonio_ | I would personally accept this.... some might not | 04:29 |
| Tonio_ | you may have to ask e few MOTUs to get the global feeling on that point | 04:29 |
| Toadstool | ping everybody here :) | 04:30 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 04:30 |
| Toadstool | and I suppose I have to put the clean tarball somewhere on the net so that it can eventually be REVUed... | 04:31 |
| Tonio_ | hum, if it is not the upstream tarball, that might not be necessary... | 04:32 |
| Toadstool | the thing is the kame.net guys used to make packages with each app but now they only ship the whole stuff in one big tarball :/ | 04:32 |
| Tonio_ | comparing md5sum is a good way to be sure the upstream is unchanged, but it is not an absolute requirement.... | 04:32 |
| Tonio_ | another kind of exception is for example packages build threw a svn.... | 04:33 |
| Toadstool | yeah well i'm going to put all this details in the changelog and we'll see :) | 04:33 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 04:34 |
| Toadstool | thanks for the answers | 04:34 |
| Tonio_ | np ;) | 04:34 |
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| thierry | siretart : hi, could you review my package? libfxruby1.4 | 04:52 |
| thierry | siretart : it's starting to get urgent if I want it in dapper :) | 04:53 |
| siretart | I see. I try to do it later this evening. | 04:53 |
| thierry | siretart : k thanks | 04:53 |
| thierry | ajmitch_ : are you busy? | 04:53 |
| zakame | siretart: ping, many thanks for tiber! I promise not to break it! :D | 04:54 |
| siretart | zakame: that would be great ;) | 04:55 |
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| zakame | gn8 all | 05:12 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 05:42 |
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| Toadstool | could someone have a look at my dhcpv6-kame package on REVU please ? :) | 06:15 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 06:41 |
| sistpoty | can s.o. with main privs sponsor me an upload? | 06:42 |
| slomo | sistpoty: show me the debdiff :) | 06:44 |
| sistpoty | slomo: I put it on revu, but I can send you a debdiff as well ;) (min12xxw) | 06:44 |
| siretart | huhu sis | 06:44 |
| siretart | huhu sistpoty | 06:44 |
| sistpoty | hi siretart | 06:44 |
| siretart | f'king wlan here ;) | 06:44 |
| slomo | hi siretart, sistpoty btw :) | 06:44 |
| sistpoty | hi slomo ;) | 06:45 |
| slomo | sistpoty: debdiff would be easier imho :) or is it a new upstream version? | 06:45 |
| sistpoty | slomo: no, just some cosmetic changes... just a minute ;) | 06:45 |
| siretart | huhu slomo | 06:45 |
| slomo | are the buildds sleeping currently? nothing gets build currently from what i see... | 06:45 |
| sistpoty | a package I uploaded after soyuz conversion got actually built after some time :) | 06:47 |
| slomo | yes, avahi got build too after some time ;) but currently nothing is building although some stuff wants to be build | 06:48 |
| sistpoty | hm... | 06:48 |
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| sistpoty | slomo: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/slomo/min12xxw_ubuntu1_to_ubuntu2.debdiff | 06:49 |
| sistpoty | slomo: but you'll need to delete debian/README.Debian and debian/Minolta-PagePro_1400W-min12xxw.ppd (at least patch -p0 didn't do that, it just made these files have size 0) | 06:50 |
| slomo | yes, i noticed that too :) | 06:50 |
| slomo | uploaded | 06:50 |
| sistpoty | slomo: cool, thx :) | 06:50 |
| Toadstool | hi guys, could someone check my dhcpv6-kame package on REVU please ? | 06:51 |
| slomo | sistpoty: hmm, i wonder if this upload is listed now under https://launchpad.net/people/slomo/+packages or https://launchpad.net/people/sistpoty/+packages | 06:52 |
| sistpoty | slomo: maybe both? | 06:53 |
| sistpoty | slomo: there is a section maintained and a section uploaded packages... my guess is that it will show as maintained on my page and as uploaded on yours ;) | 06:54 |
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| sistpoty | oh slomo: btw.: I created an uncommon programming languages team on LP and added you as member :) | 06:54 |
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| slomo | sistpoty: well, it is uploaded by me... but you did the changes... what would happen now when someone else was the maintainer, you did the change and i uploaded? your name gets lost? ;) | 06:56 |
| slomo | sistpoty: yes, good work :) now we only need to do something with that team ;) | 06:56 |
| sistpoty | slomo: interesting question :) | 06:56 |
| sistpoty | slomo: yes... and somehow the description doesn' | 06:56 |
| sistpoty | +t get displayed, I have no clue why | 06:57 |
| slomo | oh nice... i get an ACCEPTED mail too now for sponsored uploads :) | 06:57 |
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| sistpoty | hehe, but I didn't get one any longer | 06:58 |
| slomo | sure | 06:59 |
| slomo | the mail was to Launchpad Archiver <lp_archive@localhost.nifelheim.yggdrasil>, Sebastian Droege <mail@slomosnail.de>, Stefan Potyra <sistpoty@ubuntu.com> | 06:59 |
| slomo | the lp_archive thingie is interesting ;) | 06:59 |
| sistpoty | hm... strange, maybe it went a slower way than the mail to changes-list | 06:59 |
| slomo | hm and no idea about the description... it should be there :/ maybe ask on #launchpad | 07:00 |
| sistpoty | I will, but not today ;) | 07:01 |
| slomo | hmm min12xxw was uploaded by nobody ;) | 07:02 |
| slomo | but the new version lists you as maintainer | 07:02 |
| sistpoty | slomo: uploaded by nobody? what are you referring to? | 07:04 |
| siretart | slomo: I uploaded a new mplayer, enabling caca and aa outputs.. it was sitting in svn for some time | 07:04 |
| slomo | sistpoty: the "uploaded packages" on our launchpad pages | 07:05 |
| slomo | siretart: yes, i already saw it :) thanks... for some reason i missed these two while creating our new package | 07:05 |
| siretart | slomo: say, all these 'rebuilt packages' that was uploaded by you to link agains libxine-main | 07:06 |
| siretart | slomo: do they lack support for ffmpeg now? | 07:06 |
| sistpoty | hehe, funny system :) | 07:06 |
| slomo | siretart: oh damn... yes... i need to add libxine-extracodecs dependencies later to them (that was the plan anyway)... but first we need to get xine-extracodecs moved in the correct section and not splitted over universe and multiverse | 07:07 |
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| siretart | slomo: so you are suggesting an alternative build dependency: first try the universe package, if that fails, try the main one | 07:08 |
| siretart | slomo: but this also means that packages in main won't never ever be able to show mpeg4/divx vidoes, even if you have universe enabled, no? | 07:09 |
| slomo | siretart: nope... the main one is always the b-d. the multiverse (or universe... nobody knows ;) ) one only contains the 3 plugins, nothing else... | 07:09 |
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| slomo | siretart: libxine.so.* is in libxine-main1, libxine-extracodecs only contains the 3 .so for mad, ffmpeg and faad | 07:09 |
| siretart | slomo: so the universe package is a plugin replacement | 07:09 |
| siretart | aah, okay. I see | 07:10 |
| slomo | siretart: no replacement... only additional plugins :) | 07:10 |
| siretart | ok | 07:10 |
| slomo | but we need elmo to move it to the correct section before we can add dependencies on the extracodecs package in the packages in multiverse (and universe?) | 07:10 |
| slomo | but i guess he'll move the stuff to multiverse | 07:11 |
| siretart | hm. I see | 07:11 |
| siretart | perhaps we can ask in #launchpad as well? | 07:11 |
| siretart | because it is getting pretty urgent | 07:11 |
| siretart | for us | 07:11 |
| slomo | i sent elmo two mails about it and he didn't answer one of them... | 07:12 |
| slomo | hm, but maybe everything gets to multiverse now automatically... and was blocked only by the packages in universe depending on libxine1c2 | 07:12 |
| siretart | I don't think so | 07:13 |
| siretart | let's ask Kamion if promotions/demotion are being done automatically now | 07:13 |
| siretart | slomo: btw, arn't demotions/promotions done by Kamion anyway? | 07:14 |
| slomo | but it would explain why libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse and the sourcepackage and libxine1c2 in universe | 07:14 |
| siretart | hm | 07:14 |
| slomo | no idea... afaik elmo is the one to ask for legal questions | 07:14 |
| siretart | hm | 07:15 |
| slomo | and elmo wasn't too happy about Kamion freeing xine-extracodecs from NEW ;) | 07:16 |
| slomo | so i guess it's elmo's job | 07:16 |
| siretart | I see.. | 07:18 |
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| slomo | siretart: can i host a mono-ppc repository on tiber? or would that eat too much traffic? | 07:33 |
| marcin` | hello MOTU | 07:34 |
| marcin` | got a question | 07:34 |
| marcin` | could you guys tell me what is preferred metod for implementing database management scripts in deb packages? | 07:35 |
| marcin` | I would like to package web application that uses mysql or postgresql database | 07:35 |
| marcin` | and I would like to use dbconfig-common with my packages but unfortunately it's documentation is very limited and I'm not sure if dbconfig-common is preferred tool | 07:36 |
| marcin` | while it isn't in ubuntu main | 07:36 |
| marcin` | anyone? | 07:42 |
| siretart | slomo: I don't think so. go ahead | 07:42 |
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| slomo | siretart: ok, thanks :) when it takes too much traffic later just tell me and i'll remove it again | 07:43 |
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| Kyral | Hey MOTUish people | 08:02 |
| bmonty | hey Kyral | 08:03 |
| Kyral | Sorry I haven't been all that active lately | 08:03 |
| Kyral | college has been taking my time | 08:03 |
| Kyral | whoa..thats interesting, no Dapper updates this morning | 08:04 |
| bmonty | anyone have any experience with nfsv4? | 08:09 |
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| siretart | bmonty: only that it is only useful with a decent kerberos setup, which I need to look at first | 08:20 |
| bmonty | I have that :) (with LDAP) | 08:20 |
| bmonty | i looked at afs, but it seems way too complicated | 08:22 |
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| siretart | bmonty: do you have some nice tutorial for setting up a neat kerberos server with openldap on debian/ubuntu? | 08:36 |
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| bmonty | siretart: I've been thinking about doing that | 08:40 |
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| bmonty | I have to go back and make sure I understand exactly how I got it working on my server | 08:41 |
| bmonty | siretart: there is info on how to set up ldap and kerberos scattered over the internet...I had to use several sources to get everything working | 08:44 |
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| siretart | bmonty: oh, if you could write a small howto, that would be awesome | 08:52 |
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| sistpoty | Toadstool: I just did a quick review for dhcpv6-kame... if you have questions about my comments, just ask | 09:11 |
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| raphink | hub: do you really need exifprobe on REVU? | 09:16 |
| raphink | hub: hmm there's something I don't get abou tthis package | 09:17 |
| raphink | hub: from looking at the changelog, exifprobe was in breezy, but I can't find it | 09:18 |
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| raphink | sistpoty: I couldn't find the upstream tarball for dhcpv6-kame. did you find it? | 09:19 |
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| j2daosh | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8068 | 09:19 |
| sistpoty | raphink: by looking at the changelog, this appears to be a stripped doewn version of s.th. on ftp.kame.net | 09:19 |
| raphink | yes | 09:19 |
| raphink | that doesn't give me the tarball though ;) | 09:20 |
| j2daosh | can someone explain my syslog to me? my computer turned on (dont know how) at 10am... im looking through that log i just posted and it is talking about a secret cookie, and setting up slaves, and a "loop" thingie".... has someone gained access to my box? | 09:20 |
| sistpoty | raphink: because of that I commented that I want a get-orig-source target | 09:20 |
| sistpoty | j2daosh: have you tried asking in #ubuntu yet? | 09:21 |
| j2daosh | yep.. and ubuntu off topic | 09:21 |
| raphink | sistpoty: ok | 09:21 |
| j2daosh | ubuntu off topic sent me here | 09:21 |
| raphink | wonder why | 09:21 |
| raphink | this has nothing to do with here from what I can read | 09:22 |
| raphink | seems linked to gdm only, thus not universe stuff | 09:22 |
| j2daosh | but what is the secret cookie? | 09:23 |
| j2daosh | and do the ubuntu programmers really use terminology like "loop thingie"? | 09:23 |
| raphink | lol | 09:23 |
| raphink | why not | 09:23 |
| raphink | ;) | 09:23 |
| sistpoty | hehe, "Loop Thingie"... this perfectly looks like FOSS :) | 09:24 |
| raphink | yep | 09:24 |
| raphink | that's clear enough ;) | 09:24 |
| raphink | everybody knows what a loop thingie is :) | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | raphink: salut | 09:25 |
| raphink | yop apachelogger | 09:25 |
| j2daosh | well not everyone apparantly ::points at himself:: | 09:25 |
| j2daosh | so nothing is wrong? | 09:25 |
| raphink | dunno | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | raphink: I've now add clean rules for config.log and config.status | 09:25 |
| raphink | I'm not a gdm dev or specialist | 09:25 |
| raphink | cool | 09:25 |
| j2daosh | ok... can u answer this then possibly... where can i find/view all my cron/init files? i want to know exactly what is running when the comp starts. | 09:26 |
| raphink | /etc/init.d/ for init files | 09:27 |
| raphink | crontab -e for crontab | 09:27 |
| sistpoty | j2daosh: I don't think anything is wrong... but if you're paranoid, you could install chkrootkit | 09:27 |
| hub | raphink: exifprobe has never been in any distro | 09:27 |
| raphink | hub: why then are there two entries for breezy in the changelog? | 09:27 |
| j2daosh | have that installed already... dont know where to find the results of it or even how to run it though | 09:27 |
| hub | raphink: because I think the package has been on REVU for breezy | 09:27 |
| hub | raphink: look at the first upload date | 09:28 |
| hub | raphink: on REVU | 09:28 |
| raphink | hub: as long as it's on REVU, there should be only 1 changelog entry | 09:28 |
| hub | raphink: well at that time nobody told me anything | 09:28 |
| raphink | please just remove the 2 old ones and keep the last one as initial release | 09:28 |
| raphink | ok :) | 09:28 |
| sistpoty | j2daosh: just run "sudo chkrootkit"... it will give it's report on stdout | 09:28 |
| raphink | well I'm telling you now | 09:28 |
| j2daosh | stdout? is that a file or will it go str8 to the screen? | 09:29 |
| hub | raphink: yeah well at the last upload I didn't know either | 09:29 |
| j2daosh | i know it means standard output... but that is all i know | 09:29 |
| sistpoty | j2daosh: straight to screen ;) | 09:29 |
| raphink | j2daosh: when you run `ls`, it lists the files in the current folder in the standard output | 09:29 |
| raphink | :p | 09:29 |
| j2daosh | ahh ok... | 09:30 |
| j2daosh | :) | 09:30 |
| raphink | hub: well then I think since you learned quite a lot since then, you can check your package again now :) | 09:30 |
| j2daosh | ok well thank you for your help everyone | 09:31 |
| Toadstool | thank you very much sistpoty for you review | 09:31 |
| sistpoty | np Toadstool | 09:31 |
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| sistpoty | cya | 09:55 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 10:17 |
| phanatic | raphink: ping | 10:17 |
| raphink | pong phanatic | 10:18 |
| phanatic | raphink: a new upstream version of gnome-rdp was released | 10:19 |
| raphink | cool | 10:20 |
| phanatic | shall i upload it to revu and file an uvf exception? | 10:20 |
| phanatic | or what to do? | 10:20 |
| raphink | phanatic: maybe you could send a UVF exception request yourself | 10:20 |
| raphink | yes you can do that phanatic | 10:20 |
| phanatic | shall i only file the uvf exception, or also upload the package to revu? | 10:21 |
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| raphink | do both, that's fine | 10:23 |
| raphink | or rather | 10:23 |
| raphink | well | 10:23 |
| raphink | no just send the uvf excp request to ubuntu-motu ML | 10:23 |
| phanatic | okay | 10:24 |
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| siretart | does anyone know if this would work for planetplanet? -rw-rw-r-- 1 www-data www-data 10476 23. Nov 12:46 style.css~ | 10:35 |
| siretart | argl | 10:35 |
| siretart | I meant this: http://tauware.de/index.php?option=com_rd_rss&id=2 | 10:35 |
| siretart | seems like | 10:47 |
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| Gloubiboulga | siretart, I have just seen that http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=954 needs to be nuked | 11:06 |
| hub | raphink: uploaded again, reduce the version # | 11:12 |
| raphink | cool :) | 11:13 |
| raphink | I'll look at it later | 11:13 |
| raphink | I'm developping now ;) | 11:13 |
| raphink | or trying to ;) | 11:13 |
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