=== apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N929P013.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-115.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-156-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@host136.201-252-53.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] hello. [12:41] Any ideas what might be triggering this error: "Use of uninitialized value in scalar assignment at /usr/bin/dh_shlibdeps line 138, line 1." ? [12:44] Pupeno, depend what you're doing to make it [12:44] ajmitch_, around? [12:44] Mez: I am running "dh_shlibdeps -a --exclude=plot -l`pwd`/debian/mzscheme/usr/lib/plt/lib/" === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:56] stratus: just got back === sebest__ [n=sebest@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-1-26.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] ajmitch_, do you care about mono? [01:19] stratus: given that he packages lot of things for Mono, I think he does [01:20] hub, i know about that, thanks. === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-156-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-156-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] stratus: yes? [01:28] ajmitch_, mono (source) needs a rebuild in dapper, mono-jit is uninstallable due to mono-classlib old dep. [01:29] ajmitch_, mono-classlib-1.0-1.1.10 doesn't exists in dapper [01:29] ajmitch_, btw mono-classlib-1.0 provides mono-classlib-1.0-1.1.13.2 [01:30] ajmitch_, i was going to prepare a source package but i'm having some problems debootstrapping a new dapper chroot right now. === j^_ [n=j@e178048184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] stratus: ppc, right? [01:32] ajmitch_, sure [01:32] ajmitch_, i'm sorry i forgot to tell you the arch :) [01:33] find someone with an smp ppc box & we'll try & fix it [01:33] ajmitch_: smp? [01:33] hub: it seems to fail only on ppc [01:33] smp ppc [01:33] yes, is smp really necessary? [01:33] ajmitch_: I have one PPC [01:33] not very live [01:34] but it is workeable [01:34] no, no [01:34] stratus: it works on single-proc [01:34] I could finish upgrading it to dapper [01:34] the problem with the dep is on ppc up too [01:34] i can see it on my ibook g4 right now [01:34] stratus: buildd is smp === hub has switched to intel recently [01:35] stratus: it's been a recurring problem that we can't fix with source uploads, until the problem itself is addressed [01:35] new upstream versions haven't helped [01:36] and it seems to build adequately on a UP PPC box [01:36] ajmitch_, oh i don't know about the problem, can you elaborate a bit more? [01:36] not very much, tseng & slomo have looked at it more than I have [01:37] weird, but what's the side effect if we just bump up the mono-classlib depends on mono source package? [01:38] things would likely break [01:38] it's a specific version dependency because the engine & classlib are closely tied [01:39] ajmitch_, but for example is tomboy installable in non-ppc atm ? [01:39] afaik it is? [01:39] i don't know really. === ajmitch_ has it installed & working [01:39] i asked to see how spread the bug was [01:39] just ppc [01:40] beagle problems are separate [01:40] ajmitch_, oh ok. [01:41] ajmitch_, thank you for the feedback. [01:41] sorry that it's not fixed yet :) [01:41] np, sorry that i can't help fixing it atm. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alexandr@Toronto-HSE-ppp3716067.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore_ [n=alexandr@Toronto-HSE-ppp3716067.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-156-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa197.15.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] Could someone please pack up a decent Bittorrent-client for Dapper (e.g. http://rufus.sf.net). Azureus sucks like most Java-stuff (and is banned on many trackers) and most others don't have features like downloading of selected files only . etc... [02:28] iBalo: bittornado does === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] your welcome to contribute if you want ;-) [02:28] ajmitch_: ping ? [02:28] iBalo: package it === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] hi folks [02:29] iBalo: I'll be happy to help you if you need, but if you want an app in, you're the best man to get it in [02:29] hi sistpoty [02:29] but does not integrate into gnome (no freedesktop tray support), multpiple downloads are a pain in the butt with it and .... i stop whining... u all know the story [02:30] iBalo: please read the answers on the screen now that you're done typing ;) [02:30] ... yep :-) [02:31] iBalo: just so you get the point, we are no more than 100 devs in Ubuntu in total [02:31] for about 8M users iirc [02:32] we can't package every app users want [02:32] but you can package the app you want and we can help you to do it [02:32] hehe... i was just about to ask for handholding... [02:33] iBalo: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU if you're willing to help [02:33] When does it have to be ready for Dapper release [02:33] and begin with reading New Debian Maintainer's Guide ;) [02:33] ... had a couple of glances earlier [02:33] if you want it in Dapper, you still have a bit less than a month to get it in [02:34] ouch! [02:34] oh well that' sfar enough ;) [02:34] you get a week or two to learn to package [02:34] what app are you taklin' about ? [02:34] that can be done === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] it's not that i never packaged before.. it's the python i've got to learn [02:35] there are python packages experts around iirc [02:35] i'm not one I'm afraid [02:36] look at python packages on REVU [02:36] that should help [02:37] I will seriously consider that. Anyway it's ready when it's ready, and it won't for sure be on the install-cd [02:37] python packaging is easy... just provide a setup.py and dh_python does all hard parts :) [02:38] raphink: already had time to look at the package? [02:38] it won't be on the install-cd for sure iBalo since nothing from universe is [02:38] deletionlogger: sure [02:38] (at least python modules) [02:38] ah [02:38] I read through the forums on the sf page... the problem is, the author is a win-guy and often just thinks not in linux terms === deletionlogger is reading the comment [02:39] iBalo: hehe [02:39] iBalo: you mean the upstream tarball is a .zip ? [02:39] raphink: ok, will fix that stuff [02:40] So to make it work to my standards this will require more than just pack the thing up === raphink saw a .zip upstream tarball today and didn't feel like reviewing it [02:40] iBalo: ok [02:40] deletionlogger: I hope so [02:40] and I'll go to bed now [02:40] gn8 raphink [02:41] But ok, that's a fair deal... if i can get some handholding, I'll give it a try [02:41] thanks sistpoty [02:41] :) [02:41] iBalo: don't hesitate asking for help here [02:42] iBalo: there are many docs on the wiki too, use them :) [02:42] iBalo: when you think you've got a good package, upload it to REVU and ping one of us here to review it [02:43] Ok, I'll investigate that further after a couple of hours of sleep, [02:44] sure [02:46] hi, before sleeping... could anyone here have a look at my dhcpv6-kame package ? I've already uploaded it to REVU [02:47] ToadZzZztool: ok very quick then [02:47] give me the link [02:47] and a url to the upstream tarball [02:47] and i'll generate a report [02:48] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1642 [02:48] this one ? [02:48] ok [02:48] and the upstream tarball is hidden in ftp.kame.net [02:48] and a url to the upstream tarball please [02:48] can somebody review this: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1472 [02:49] raphink: i'm trying to find the complete url [02:49] hub: same here, give me a link to the upstream tarball [02:49] I'll generate a report [02:49] and I'll review tomorrow [02:49] raphink: ok [02:49] thanks ToadZzZztool [02:49] raphink: I'll put it in a comment, is that ok? [02:50] hub: I'd rather you give me the link here [02:50] http://www.virtual-cafe.com/~dhh/tools.d/exifprobe.d/exifprobe-2.0.1.tar.gz [02:50] so I can launch the report tool right now [02:50] then here it is :-) [02:50] okay [02:50] now let's wait [02:50] :) [02:51] ToadZzZztool: got the link? [02:51] argh looks like they've removed the files this week [02:51] raphink: btw, what to do with files in the wrong mode? [02:51] ToadZzZztool: I need the upstrem tarball though [02:51] in fact this is a big tarball containing the whole kame IPv6 stuff [02:51] 600 instead of 644 [02:52] including the dhcpv6 [02:52] hub: either change them in the source tarball, which is not clean [02:52] or change their mode in debian/rules [02:52] ok [02:52] or just installthem with the right mode in debian/rules or debian/install [02:52] ToadZzZztool: I just want to get the tarball you used for the package [02:52] oki then i'll put it on my website [02:53] hub: the report for exifprobe was generated [02:53] check the page [02:53] and I'll have a look at it later [02:53] ToadZzZztool: i'd rather have the one from them [02:53] ok [02:54] raphink: it's only a part of the whole tarball i've re-tared [02:54] with no modifications at all [02:54] propos vous avez remarqu qu'on est 3 francophones parler en anglais l ? ;) [02:54] arf [02:54] hmmpf [02:54] what are you talking about? [02:54] ouais en fait c'est vrai :) [02:54] ;-/ [02:54] hub: :p :p [02:54] tabarnak [02:55] :) [02:55] bon allez au lit [02:55] je regarderait a demain [02:55] bonne nuit [02:55] raphink: bonne nuit [02:55] hub: tu peux jeter un oeil au paquet de ToadZzZztool si tu as le temps ? [02:55] ;) [02:55] :) [02:55] vu qu'il est plus tt chez toi ;) [02:55] ToadZzZztool: c'est quel paquet? [02:55] ++ [02:56] hub: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1642 [02:56] bon allez dodo aussi [02:56] bonne nuit [03:00] Hate me for I installed FC4 on my lapop [03:02] Kyral: I installed SuSE the otherday [03:02] Kyral: i lasted 24h, I installed KUbuntu [03:02] lol [03:02] Well, my laptop is just a toy [03:03] Kyral: it is my workstation [03:03] I know all about Ubuntu [03:04] So I thought I'd learn about Fedora on my lappy :D === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] I still like Ubuntu more... [03:06] I found SuSE slow as hell [03:06] YaST is great mind you, but the crap performance turned me off [03:07] Don't worry, AzureDream (my production box) will always run Ubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.60.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty recently had to update a srv from suse 9.0 to 9.3... that sucked very much === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] Gah but FC4 is so out of date... [03:09] Its taking like 500 Megs to bring it up to date [03:09] but its kinda cool that it has SELinux by default [03:11] Tonio_: yes? [03:14] ajmitch_: I have a problem to get my revu account password.... [03:14] what problem? [03:15] ajmitch_: impossible to decrypt since I don't have the ELG-E key.... [03:15] gpg: encrypted with ELG-E key, ID 28E2DD3A [03:15] gpg: decryption failed: secret key not available [03:15] ajmitch_: do I miss something ? [03:15] do you have a sign-only key? [03:16] ajmitch_: what do you mean by "sign-only" ? [03:17] a key that can only be used for signing [03:18] ah, no, that's normally a normal key [03:18] I can sign and crypt with it.... [03:20] Tonio_: what's the email you use for revu? [03:20] anthony.mercatante@laposte.net [03:21] keyserver is giving me issues today [03:22] Tonio_: sistpoty can probably answer your questions far better :) [03:22] ajmitch_: okay I'll se with him :) [03:24] ajmitch_: just testing at my key, and maybe it is a sign-only one... [03:24] Tonio_: I just sent you an encrypted mail with the pw. hopefully you can decrypt it ;) [03:24] I never crypt anything, so I may be wrong when I say it could [03:24] sistpoty: just trying [03:26] sistpoty: it worked, thank you ;) [03:26] Tonio_: np ;) [03:26] sistpoty: just cause I like to understand, what was wrong in the process ? is it a known problem ? [03:27] Tonio_: not quite sure what's wrong exactly... [03:27] Tonio_: to my knowledge, the lost-pw feature just takes the pw and your keyid and crypts the pw with your key [03:27] Tonio_: but siretart wrote that part, so maybe there is some more trickery involved ;) [03:28] sistpoty: that's exactly what you've done for the mail you sent me no ? [03:28] ah, delegation of blame :) [03:28] hehe, actually I just wanted to say: dunno :) [03:29] Tonio_: yep [03:30] well it works, that the only important thing :) === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === glick [n=myob@cpe-24-193-247-3.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] excuse me im trying to built the package gtk-gnutella according to the directions offered by the debian maintainers guide [04:31] but i always get this error... [04:31] install: cannot stat `gtk-gnutella.desktop': No such file or directory [04:31] make: *** [binary-arch] Error 1 === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] in the main source directory i issue the command dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [04:32] and i get that error [04:32] then i tried fakeroot debian/rules binary [04:33] same deal [04:35] glick: so do you have a gtk-gnutella.desktop? [04:35] LaserJock, whats that? [04:35] a file [04:36] no shit [04:36] i obviously dont have it [04:37] ok, well you don't have to swear at me. Are you calling dh_desktop in debian/rules? === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:38] LaserJock, no man i just do fakeroot debian/rules binary [04:40] can you paste the debian/rules in a pastebin somewhere? [04:42] LaserJock, http://pastebin.com/539570 [04:42] man i wish they had half decent docs on how to build packages [04:43] we are working on an ubuntu packaging guide but it is still a work in progress [04:43] should be ready for Dapper release [04:43] coo [04:44] ok, so you should have a .desktop file in debian/ [04:44] no such file exists [04:44] ok, so that's the problem. you should either look for one in the source directory or make one. [04:45] you can check out other .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ [04:45] what does that file do? [04:45] it puts the app in the menu mostly [04:46] you could not include it but then the app wouldn't be in the menu [04:46] so pretty much all gui apps should have .desktop files [04:47] i find it hard to believe that it wouldnt come with one [04:47] i remimber building it before, some dude online walked me through it [04:47] and i didnt have to create or edit any desktop file [04:48] well the source could install it but your debian/rules file expects to find one in debian/ [04:48] can you see one in the source directory? [04:49] id ont see one [04:50] does the source have a Makefile? [04:51] you can check the "install" rule in the Makefile to see if it is installing it [04:56] screw it i just installed the .deb from the website [04:56] seems to be working fine [04:58] glick: If you just wanted to install it for yourself you could have just taken out that line in debian/rules that tries to install the .desktop file [04:58] oh [04:58] eh whateva its cool, as long as it works [04:58] thanks though [04:58] np ;-) [04:58] anyone here use ghdl? [04:59] i gotta play with that [05:01] no, sorry I don't === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.60.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.1.86.133] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] hi MOTUs [07:13] hi zakame [07:14] recovered from meeting sabdfl yet? === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] ajmitch_: of course, now switching to regular programming [07:14] hehe [07:14] how's the rollout? [07:15] apparantly done [07:15] though I've seen no mails to dapper-changes [07:15] we're on soyuz now? [07:15] wouldn't surprise me if that was broken [07:15] Amaranth: yes [07:15] I saw one. [07:15] w00t!!! [07:16] StevenK: before or after the "we're open for business" message? === zakame now tries out his tiber account, thanks siretart ! :D [07:16] it could be my procmail filtering is askew [07:17] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-February/005853.html [07:17] I think that's after. [07:20] hm, I haven't got that mail or many of those in my dapper-changes folder [07:21] ajmitch_: Seen this? [07:21] steven@liquified:~% uname -m [07:21] x86_64 [07:21] is that "Accepted" stuff on the bottom new? [07:21] Amaranth: No, it's different. [07:21] Amaranth: Compare konq-pim and poppler [07:21] i thought so [07:22] the last mail I have in the folder in konq-pim === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] StevenK: hm? what's special about that? no amd? [07:22] ajmitch_: That was the last katie mail. [07:22] heya Hobbsee [07:22] ajmitch_: That I'm now on an amd64 instead of my dual Athlon. [07:23] hey zakame [07:23] StevenK: aha [07:23] ajmitch_: Which stands to reason that Soyuz has changed the mail headers, and therefore broken your filtering. [07:23] StevenK: congrats, can I be jealous now? [07:23] ajmitch_: Sure. :-) [07:23] StevenK: sure, but I'm trying to track down what folder it ended up in :) === ajmitch_ is grepping his procmail logs :) [07:23] ajmitch_: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/img_0920.jpg === StevenK switched from procmail to Sieve [07:24] nice little case === StevenK nods. [07:24] compared to the monster I have waiting for the dual-core amd64 I've priced up :) [07:24] what do you have in it? [07:25] From dapper-changes-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com Sun Feb 05 06:36:12 2006 [07:25] Subject: Accepted rhythmbox 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu1 (source) [07:25] Folder: launchpad 6199 [07:25] bah === ajmitch_ just checked that folder [07:25] It's only a Celery 2.8 unfortunately. [07:25] (All I could afford) [07:25] I see there's too much bug mail in there, I have to split it [07:25] at least they still have an X-Katie header [07:25] However, the motherboard can deal with the newer dual core CPUs, too. [07:26] so what's your new amd64 box? [07:26] ajmitch_: A Celery 2.8, 512Mb RAM, 80Gb PATA [07:26] Nothing special, really. [07:26] ah, em64t? [07:26] Yup [07:27] I didn't realise the celerons were 64 bit now [07:27] It's small, quiet, and can compile xemacs21 without throwing an ICE. === ajmitch_ is aiming for something a little faster [07:27] since it has to replace my athlon xp 1800+ [07:27] List-Id: header is split over 2 lines [07:27] which broke my procmail filter [07:30] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+builds still doesn't look at all helpful [07:34] You're right. [07:34] It feels ... clunky. [07:35] well that at least a step nearer soyuz :) [07:36] a lot of launchpad's UI still feels very clunky [07:37] like the stock forms have been used & it hasn't been tweaked suitably for the data being displayed === StevenK nods. [07:37] '1-20 of 1,000,000 results' isn't useful :) [07:37] heh [07:38] I guess we'll just have to put pressure on them until they break :) [07:38] "go harass your local launchpad developer today!" [07:38] rofl [07:38] lol [07:39] hehe === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:39] I think the Distro team is going to kill the Launchpad team before long. :-) [07:39] worth to put that in /topic? [07:39] zakame: sure :) === ajmitch_ is fortunate to have one within walking distance now ;) [07:39] hey you people can probably help me. I've got a chroot created in ~/breezy, and i need to build a package in the chroot - how do i go about doing that? (i already have a dapper pbuilder) [07:40] Hobbsee: ah, it would be easier to use a breezy pbuilder setup, instead of a chroot [07:40] but otherwise you just use chroot to get into there, and build the source normally [07:40] right, which means i'd overwrite my dapper one? [07:40] no, you have separate configs for pbuilder [07:41] yep === ajmitch_ has hoary,breezy,dapper,sarge & sid pbuilder setups [07:41] so you could just do `dchroot -c breezy` [07:41] hehe [07:41] dchroot -c breezy - what's that do? === StevenK has 5 pbuilder chroots. [07:42] Two each for Breezy and Dapper (i386 and amd64), and one for Sid i386. === zakame loves chroots [07:43] StevenK: sadly I only have i386 to play with at the moment === StevenK has found and fixed a build failure using the new interface. === ajmitch_ is going to go back to reading a book [07:44] computers irritate me today [07:44] Blah. [07:44] :) [07:45] What do I use to sign a dsc and changes files? === StevenK is having a blonde moment. [07:45] debsign [07:45] Ah, ta [07:45] or debrsign if your gpg key is on another box [07:45] debsign? 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[02:58] I must talk grammar [02:58] preferable German grammar [03:05] Gloubiboulga: hmm where is it? I couldn't find it in REVU :/ [03:06] oh it's at the very bottom, ready for upload [03:07] zakame, yes, ready to gp [03:07] waiting for elmo now [03:07] s/gp/go [03:08] Gloubiboulga: ooh, my bad, I thought you meant it needed REVU, it was uploaded already, silly me :P [03:08] Gloubiboulga: rock on then with gswitch :D [03:09] zakame, gswitch depends on libswicth, and can't be build with pbuilder for the moment [03:10] yeah [03:10] but it'll be just a while, or maybe a day [03:10] yep === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sid5400 [i=sid5400@016.a.001.gee.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sid5400 [i=sid5400@016.a.001.gee.iprimus.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === johnl [n=johnl@cpc2-leds4-5-1-cust127.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest_ [n=sebest@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@host136.201-252-53.telecom.net.ar] has left #ubuntu-motu ["I] === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-7670.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === desplesda [n=desplesd@58.164.219.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo_win [n=User@dslc-213-023-180-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] hi everybody [04:20] i'd like my package to be REVUed but i need to provide the upstream tarball, the problem is i've only packaged a part of a very big tarball === Simira [n=simira@194.24.252.250] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:21] should I provide a clean retared version of the part I packaged ? [04:22] hm, why is it BIG? [04:22] 'cause it's the kame IPv6 pack which contains all the kernels patches and a lot of IPv6 daemons such as rtadvd [04:23] and I've only packaged the dhcpv6 part === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] hi all [04:24] hi [04:24] any suggestion about my problem ? :) [04:25] heya Hirion Tonio_ [04:25] Toadstool: ah [04:27] Toadstool: I think if you explain clearly that you extracted a part of big tarball in the changelog, that might be okay [04:27] hum ok [04:27] Toadstool: although you might be ask "why didn't you package the all application" ^^ [04:28] because radvd and the other apps are already packaged but there's no decent dhcpv6 solution for the moment :) [04:29] that can be explained in the changelog too ;) [04:29] let's do that then [04:29] I would personally accept this.... some might not [04:29] you may have to ask e few MOTUs to get the global feeling on that point [04:30] ping everybody here :) [04:30] ;) [04:31] and I suppose I have to put the clean tarball somewhere on the net so that it can eventually be REVUed... [04:32] hum, if it is not the upstream tarball, that might not be necessary... [04:32] the thing is the kame.net guys used to make packages with each app but now they only ship the whole stuff in one big tarball :/ [04:32] comparing md5sum is a good way to be sure the upstream is unchanged, but it is not an absolute requirement.... [04:33] another kind of exception is for example packages build threw a svn.... [04:33] yeah well i'm going to put all this details in the changelog and we'll see :) [04:34] yup [04:34] thanks for the answers [04:34] np ;) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_Aw === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable143.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] siretart : hi, could you review my package? libfxruby1.4 [04:53] siretart : it's starting to get urgent if I want it in dapper :) [04:53] I see. I try to do it later this evening. [04:53] siretart : k thanks [04:53] ajmitch_ : are you busy? [04:54] siretart: ping, many thanks for tiber! I promise not to break it! :D [04:55] zakame: that would be great ;) === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@134.231.179.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul_ [n=ompaul@212.2.167.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] gn8 all === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N827P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aplg [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl51B69E32.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] hi people === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.243.109] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rave_ [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman_ [n=iceman@175-16.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman__ [n=iceman@175-16.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] could someone have a look at my dhcpv6-kame package on REVU please ? :) === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-74-175.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] hi folks [06:42] can s.o. with main privs sponsor me an upload? [06:44] sistpoty: show me the debdiff :) [06:44] slomo: I put it on revu, but I can send you a debdiff as well ;) (min12xxw) [06:44] huhu sis [06:44] huhu sistpoty [06:44] hi siretart [06:44] f'king wlan here ;) [06:44] hi siretart, sistpoty btw :) [06:45] hi slomo ;) [06:45] sistpoty: debdiff would be easier imho :) or is it a new upstream version? [06:45] slomo: no, just some cosmetic changes... just a minute ;) [06:45] huhu slomo [06:45] are the buildds sleeping currently? nothing gets build currently from what i see... [06:47] a package I uploaded after soyuz conversion got actually built after some time :) [06:48] yes, avahi got build too after some time ;) but currently nothing is building although some stuff wants to be build [06:48] hm... === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] slomo: http://tiber.tauware.de/~sistpoty/slomo/min12xxw_ubuntu1_to_ubuntu2.debdiff [06:50] slomo: but you'll need to delete debian/README.Debian and debian/Minolta-PagePro_1400W-min12xxw.ppd (at least patch -p0 didn't do that, it just made these files have size 0) [06:50] yes, i noticed that too :) [06:50] uploaded [06:50] slomo: cool, thx :) [06:51] hi guys, could someone check my dhcpv6-kame package on REVU please ? [06:52] sistpoty: hmm, i wonder if this upload is listed now under https://launchpad.net/people/slomo/+packages or https://launchpad.net/people/sistpoty/+packages [06:53] slomo: maybe both? [06:54] slomo: there is a section maintained and a section uploaded packages... my guess is that it will show as maintained on my page and as uploaded on yours ;) === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:54] oh slomo: btw.: I created an uncommon programming languages team on LP and added you as member :) === Gloubi_Aw is now known as Gloubiboulga [06:56] sistpoty: well, it is uploaded by me... but you did the changes... what would happen now when someone else was the maintainer, you did the change and i uploaded? your name gets lost? ;) [06:56] sistpoty: yes, good work :) now we only need to do something with that team ;) [06:56] slomo: interesting question :) [06:56] slomo: yes... and somehow the description doesn' [06:57] +t get displayed, I have no clue why [06:57] oh nice... i get an ACCEPTED mail too now for sponsored uploads :) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:58] hehe, but I didn't get one any longer [06:59] sure [06:59] the mail was to Launchpad Archiver , Sebastian Droege , Stefan Potyra [06:59] the lp_archive thingie is interesting ;) [06:59] hm... strange, maybe it went a slower way than the mail to changes-list [07:00] hm and no idea about the description... it should be there :/ maybe ask on #launchpad [07:01] I will, but not today ;) [07:02] hmm min12xxw was uploaded by nobody ;) [07:02] but the new version lists you as maintainer [07:04] slomo: uploaded by nobody? what are you referring to? [07:04] slomo: I uploaded a new mplayer, enabling caca and aa outputs.. it was sitting in svn for some time [07:05] sistpoty: the "uploaded packages" on our launchpad pages [07:05] siretart: yes, i already saw it :) thanks... for some reason i missed these two while creating our new package [07:06] slomo: say, all these 'rebuilt packages' that was uploaded by you to link agains libxine-main [07:06] slomo: do they lack support for ffmpeg now? [07:06] hehe, funny system :) [07:07] siretart: oh damn... yes... i need to add libxine-extracodecs dependencies later to them (that was the plan anyway)... but first we need to get xine-extracodecs moved in the correct section and not splitted over universe and multiverse === stratus [n=stratus@201008163206.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] slomo: so you are suggesting an alternative build dependency: first try the universe package, if that fails, try the main one [07:09] slomo: but this also means that packages in main won't never ever be able to show mpeg4/divx vidoes, even if you have universe enabled, no? [07:09] siretart: nope... the main one is always the b-d. the multiverse (or universe... nobody knows ;) ) one only contains the 3 plugins, nothing else... === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:09] siretart: libxine.so.* is in libxine-main1, libxine-extracodecs only contains the 3 .so for mad, ffmpeg and faad [07:09] slomo: so the universe package is a plugin replacement [07:10] aah, okay. I see [07:10] siretart: no replacement... only additional plugins :) [07:10] ok [07:10] but we need elmo to move it to the correct section before we can add dependencies on the extracodecs package in the packages in multiverse (and universe?) [07:11] but i guess he'll move the stuff to multiverse [07:11] hm. I see [07:11] perhaps we can ask in #launchpad as well? [07:11] because it is getting pretty urgent [07:11] for us [07:12] i sent elmo two mails about it and he didn't answer one of them... [07:12] hm, but maybe everything gets to multiverse now automatically... and was blocked only by the packages in universe depending on libxine1c2 [07:13] I don't think so [07:13] let's ask Kamion if promotions/demotion are being done automatically now [07:14] slomo: btw, arn't demotions/promotions done by Kamion anyway? [07:14] but it would explain why libxine-extracodecs is in multiverse and the sourcepackage and libxine1c2 in universe [07:14] hm [07:14] no idea... afaik elmo is the one to ask for legal questions [07:15] hm [07:16] and elmo wasn't too happy about Kamion freeing xine-extracodecs from NEW ;) [07:16] so i guess it's elmo's job [07:18] I see.. === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-7885.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] siretart: can i host a mono-ppc repository on tiber? or would that eat too much traffic? [07:34] hello MOTU [07:34] got a question [07:35] could you guys tell me what is preferred metod for implementing database management scripts in deb packages? [07:35] I would like to package web application that uses mysql or postgresql database [07:36] and I would like to use dbconfig-common with my packages but unfortunately it's documentation is very limited and I'm not sure if dbconfig-common is preferred tool [07:36] while it isn't in ubuntu main [07:42] anyone? [07:42] slomo: I don't think so. go ahead === rave__ [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] siretart: ok, thanks :) when it takes too much traffic later just tell me and i'll remove it again === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@212.2.167.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] Hey MOTUish people [08:03] hey Kyral [08:03] Sorry I haven't been all that active lately [08:03] college has been taking my time [08:04] whoa..thats interesting, no Dapper updates this morning [08:09] anyone have any experience with nfsv4? === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] bmonty: only that it is only useful with a decent kerberos setup, which I need to look at first [08:20] I have that :) (with LDAP) [08:22] i looked at afs, but it seems way too complicated === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:36] bmonty: do you have some nice tutorial for setting up a neat kerberos server with openldap on debian/ubuntu? === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] siretart: I've been thinking about doing that === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] I have to go back and make sure I understand exactly how I got it working on my server [08:44] siretart: there is info on how to set up ldap and kerberos scattered over the internet...I had to use several sources to get everything working === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-33-86.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@212.2.167.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] bmonty: oh, if you could write a small howto, that would be awesome === huats [n=Huats@huats.reponses.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@212.2.167.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] Toadstool: I just did a quick review for dhcpv6-kame... if you have questions about my comments, just ask === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-145.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] hub: do you really need exifprobe on REVU? [09:17] hub: hmm there's something I don't get abou tthis package [09:18] hub: from looking at the changelog, exifprobe was in breezy, but I can't find it === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:19] sistpoty: I couldn't find the upstream tarball for dhcpv6-kame. did you find it? === j2daosh [n=josh@66-191-145-50.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8068 [09:19] raphink: by looking at the changelog, this appears to be a stripped doewn version of s.th. on ftp.kame.net [09:19] yes [09:20] that doesn't give me the tarball though ;) [09:20] can someone explain my syslog to me? my computer turned on (dont know how) at 10am... im looking through that log i just posted and it is talking about a secret cookie, and setting up slaves, and a "loop" thingie".... has someone gained access to my box? [09:20] raphink: because of that I commented that I want a get-orig-source target [09:21] j2daosh: have you tried asking in #ubuntu yet? [09:21] yep.. and ubuntu off topic [09:21] sistpoty: ok [09:21] ubuntu off topic sent me here [09:21] wonder why [09:22] this has nothing to do with here from what I can read [09:22] seems linked to gdm only, thus not universe stuff [09:23] but what is the secret cookie? [09:23] and do the ubuntu programmers really use terminology like "loop thingie"? [09:23] lol [09:23] why not [09:23] ;) [09:24] hehe, "Loop Thingie"... this perfectly looks like FOSS :) [09:24] yep [09:24] that's clear enough ;) [09:25] everybody knows what a loop thingie is :) [09:25] raphink: salut [09:25] yop apachelogger [09:25] well not everyone apparantly ::points at himself:: [09:25] so nothing is wrong? [09:25] dunno [09:25] raphink: I've now add clean rules for config.log and config.status [09:25] I'm not a gdm dev or specialist [09:25] cool [09:26] ok... can u answer this then possibly... where can i find/view all my cron/init files? i want to know exactly what is running when the comp starts. [09:27] /etc/init.d/ for init files [09:27] crontab -e for crontab [09:27] j2daosh: I don't think anything is wrong... but if you're paranoid, you could install chkrootkit [09:27] raphink: exifprobe has never been in any distro [09:27] hub: why then are there two entries for breezy in the changelog? [09:27] have that installed already... dont know where to find the results of it or even how to run it though [09:27] raphink: because I think the package has been on REVU for breezy [09:28] raphink: look at the first upload date [09:28] raphink: on REVU [09:28] hub: as long as it's on REVU, there should be only 1 changelog entry [09:28] raphink: well at that time nobody told me anything [09:28] please just remove the 2 old ones and keep the last one as initial release [09:28] ok :) [09:28] j2daosh: just run "sudo chkrootkit"... it will give it's report on stdout [09:28] well I'm telling you now [09:29] stdout? is that a file or will it go str8 to the screen? [09:29] raphink: yeah well at the last upload I didn't know either [09:29] i know it means standard output... but that is all i know [09:29] j2daosh: straight to screen ;) [09:29] j2daosh: when you run `ls`, it lists the files in the current folder in the standard output [09:29] :p [09:30] ahh ok... [09:30] :) [09:30] hub: well then I think since you learned quite a lot since then, you can check your package again now :) [09:31] ok well thank you for your help everyone [09:31] thank you very much sistpoty for you review [09:31] np Toadstool === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487E6EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is off again [09:55] cya === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl51B69D4F.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] hi people [10:17] raphink: ping [10:18] pong phanatic [10:19] raphink: a new upstream version of gnome-rdp was released [10:20] cool [10:20] shall i upload it to revu and file an uvf exception? [10:20] or what to do? [10:20] phanatic: maybe you could send a UVF exception request yourself [10:20] yes you can do that phanatic [10:21] shall i only file the uvf exception, or also upload the package to revu? === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa33.0.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] do both, that's fine [10:23] or rather [10:23] well [10:23] no just send the uvf excp request to ubuntu-motu ML [10:24] okay === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-47-211.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] does anyone know if this would work for planetplanet? -rw-rw-r-- 1 www-data www-data 10476 23. Nov 12:46 style.css~ [10:35] argl [10:35] I meant this: http://tauware.de/index.php?option=com_rd_rss&id=2 [10:47] seems like === Kyral contemplates doing LFS in his spare time.. === iceman_ [n=iceman@175-16.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] siretart, I have just seen that http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=954 needs to be nuked [11:12] raphink: uploaded again, reduce the version # [11:13] cool :) [11:13] I'll look at it later [11:13] I'm developping now ;) [11:13] or trying to ;) === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iceman [n=iceman@175-16.241.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-72-189.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-47f-62-147-143-87.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-1-26.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu