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Hobbseemorning all12:30
crimsun'lo12:31
Hobbsee:)12:31
Hobbsee_awayRiddell: ping12:35
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MezRiddell, ping03:13
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LeeJunFansomehow I managed to lose my ability to have kde clock applet show anything but utc tz.03:15
LeeJunFanif I go to adjust date and time the right time is there.03:16
Mezright click, onfigure clock -> timezones03:17
LeeJunFanMez: yeah, I know, nothing there.03:17
Meznothing ?03:17
LeeJunFanShow timezones has "Local Timezone" and "Configure Timezones"03:17
LeeJunFanConfigure timezones will only allow me to select UTC.03:17
Mezhmm?03:18
Mezwhat makes it so you cant select anything else?03:18
LeeJunFantzconfig is set to Eastern. ntpdate grabs the right timezone, date shows the right time, it's just kde.03:18
LeeJunFanMez: that's all that's listed.03:18
Mezweirdness03:18
LeeJunFanroot@jkd:~# tzselect03:20
LeeJunFan/usr/bin/tzselect: line 53: /usr/share/zoneinfo/iso3166.tab: No such file or directory03:20
LeeJunFanperhaps libc6 is foobar.03:20
Meztry this03:20
Mezsudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker-applets03:20
LeeJunFanokay, now I'll log out/in.03:21
Mez(hit ctrl+alt+backspace)03:21
Mezor killall -9 kicker && kicker03:22
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Mezany luck?03:22
LeeJunFannope.03:23
LeeJunFanI even wiped out the config file for clock_panelapplet03:23
Mezdo you have any kde-i18n package installed03:31
LeeJunFanMez: no, I was just looking at that too.03:31
Mezreading #kde ?03:31
LeeJunFanno.03:32
Meztry adding a new user - logging in as them - and seeing if that works03:32
HobbseeLeeJunFan: there's already a bug for this03:33
MezHobbsee, there is?03:33
Hobbsee\ sh and i filed one last night for it03:33
HobbseeMez: yep, want the link?03:34
Mezplease03:34
Hobbseelaunchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3054603:34
LeeJunFanHobbsee: heh, it just started for me seemingly out of the blue.03:34
LeeJunFanHobbsee: owell, thanks. I can stop beating my head against the wall now.03:34
Hobbseehehe - i found it last night, and got so confused03:34
Hobbseehehe03:35
Hobbseeso i'm so screwed in regards to time - it tells me it's 2.35 am, and i know darn well it isnt, cos the sun is up!!!03:35
LeeJunFanyeah, 9:36pm here03:36
LeeJunFanso it shows as a whole different day too.03:36
Hobbseehehe of course03:36
=== Mez marks as bug in libc6
=== Hobbsee displays puppy dog eyes at Mez - want to fix it for us??? please?
MezHobbsee, i dont have access to main03:49
Hobbseepity - send a patch to someone who does or something?03:49
=== Hobbsee doesnt really know how this stuff works
Mezplus - if i did - i wouldnt touch glibc, i dont know what jbailets been doing to it03:49
Mezjbailey *03:50
LeeJunFanyeah, that's a bad package to get fubared too bad.03:50
Hobbseeah ok03:50
LeeJunFanHobbsee: op in kubuntu right? got some moron going nuts there.04:04
LeeJunFana couple actually.04:05
LeeJunFannalioth got em.04:05
HobbseeLeeJunFan: yeah, but i was afk sorry04:06
Hobbseemoral of the story - hobbsee should never go find lunch!04:08
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OddAbe19i'm going to ask a basic question, but it kinda has to do with development <---pre-warning04:27
OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop, like stock KDE in kubuntu?04:27
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Tm_TRiddell: known issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i805108:18
sethTm_T, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3054608:41
sethknown issue in libc6 :)08:41
Tm_Taah!08:42
Tm_Tseth <308:42
sethhaha08:42
Tm_TI didn't know what bug that is08:42
sethI just found it a few minutes ago08:42
sethit also messes up your clock and sets it to UTC08:42
Tm_Tseth: well, that's how I noticed it08:43
sethyep08:43
sethI like how when you hover over the clock08:43
sethit's the same time EVERYWHERE :P08:43
Tm_Taye! =)08:43
Tm_Tfunny, that's why the text "so global that doesn't care local times"08:44
seththat's a related issue that may help them though, I would post it on the bug :)08:46
sethyour screenshot that is08:46
Tm_Tyu08:46
Tm_Tthanks08:47
Tm_Tdo that, I get more breakfast ->08:47
sethhaha08:48
sethdone :)08:48
Tm_Thum, maybe I should register to that09:03
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Tonio_Riddell: ping ?10:29
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RiddellTonio_: hi01:04
=== Hobbsee waves to Riddell
Riddellhi Hobbsee01:05
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Tonio_Riddell: just working on the settings, fyi01:33
hungerRiddell: Are you around?01:35
hungerRiddell: Any idea how to stop the gnome-desktop files in /usr/share/autostart from starting in KDE?01:35
Riddellhunger: no idea, how did they get there?01:37
Riddellhmm, OnlyShowIn=GNOME;01:37
Riddellmaybe we need to make KDE respect that01:37
hungerRiddell: gnome-volume-manager and gnome-power-manager install them there now that gnome-session seams to support /usr/share/autostart.01:37
Riddellthat must be new01:38
hungerRiddell: It is.01:38
hungerRiddell: Gnome seams to have stolen the idea from kde... 01:38
RiddellI wonder if that means KDE stuff autostarts in gnome01:38
hungerRiddell: It does not. I tested.01:39
Tonio_Riddell: concerning the dpi, I set it to 100, are you fine with the value ?01:39
hungerRiddell: the desktop-file spec does not cover autostart at all... no wonder there is some chaos:-)01:39
hungerRiddell: someone on freedesktop.org wrote it does not matter since /usr/share/autostart contains only DE-independent stuff, with the DE checking in /usr/share/DE/autostart for its own things.01:40
hungerRiddell: But that was the "best" information I found on the topic.01:41
hungerNo idea whether kde checks there... ubuntu has no such dirs. I guess it was just some interpretation from some random guy anyway.01:42
Riddellsounds like it01:43
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hungerRiddell: This annoyed me so much I even tried to switch over to gnome completly:-)01:49
hungerRiddell: Unfortunately gnome is way to lame to be fun.01:49
hungerThen I tried updating to kde 4... but ran out of diskspace when grabbing the sources.01:50
hungerSo now I am back to the normal kde3.5.1 ubuntu debs:-)01:50
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MezRiddell:ping02:38
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mornfall*yawn*02:45
Tm_Tuargh!02:46
Tm_Toh f*ck02:46
Tm_Tjust spent 3hfor nothing02:46
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Hobbseenight all02:52
HobbseeRiddell: expect breezy debs in the morning, i'll upload to the same place as the dapper ones02:53
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RiddellMez: hi03:03
mornfall'lo03:05
Riddellmorning03:05
MezRiddell: arts needs to depend on base-files to be backported - as it tries to check lsb-release - but that doesnt exist without base-files03:06
Riddellah yes03:07
RiddellI was waiting on soyuz to open before uploading anything03:07
MezIt's open ;)03:08
Riddellyep, will do now03:08
Meznp ;)03:08
Mezdpnt forget anything else that tries to needs to aswell03:08
RiddellI take it akode works now?03:09
Mezhopefully though-  hte script fu will work and we'll be able to backport it eventually03:09
Riddellarts 1.5.1-0ubuntu1 does build-dep on lsb-release, base-files03:09
Mezo_O03:10
Mezso it does03:10
Mezthen why wasnt it working03:11
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mornfallit's broken? :-)03:11
Mezif i managed to get rid of my menu list in konq - hoe do i get it back?03:13
Riddellmenu list?03:14
Mezyeah, like fiel etc03:14
Mezfile *03:14
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Mezgah03:14
Mezwaht was that03:14
Mez?03:14
Tm_Tit was... me!03:18
Tm_T] ;=03:18
Mezso, any hints on how to get it back03:31
Tm_Tonly over my dead body!03:32
Tm_Tok, more coffee ->03:33
RiddellMez: you have no menu bar in konqueror?03:36
Meznope03:36
Mezsorted 03:36
Riddellcontrol-M03:36
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hungerseb128: You claim #30506 is a kde bug... are you sure?04:17
hungerseb128: That is the one about g-v-m desktop files being run by kde.04:18
hungerseb128: As I understand the desktop file spec the autostart usage is totally undefined... should ubuntu really rely on that kind of behaviour?04:19
Riddellhunger: kde should respect OnlyShowIn=Gnome04:39
Riddellso it's a kde issue04:40
RiddellI believe gnome doesn't work at all for autostart files, so they have their own issues :)04:40
Tm_Tseth: ok, new locales installing, but I doubt it fixes anything04:58
Tm_TRiddell: talking about kicker clock only utc -bug, what I should test?05:01
Tm_T...works \o/05:01
Tm_Tinteresting05:01
Riddellyeah, install locales 2.3.10 05:03
RiddellTm_T: is that what fixed it?05:03
Tm_Tseems so, I restarted twice earlier today05:04
Tm_TRiddell: btw: http://www.kolumbus.fi/lliehu/sekalaista-tavaraa/kuva1.png <- I got similar05:05
Tm_Tmaybe I should change my kubuntu-devel list address to gmail05:06
Tm_Tanother thing: https://launchpad.net/people/jussi-kekkonen <- why pointing to jussikekkonen2 in wiki, why 205:07
Tm_Thmm, I can edit it myself, right?05:08
=== Tm_T is very new with this launchpad and all
Tm_Tand I also need caffeine =)05:08
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RiddellTm_T: hmm, why is it going to kubuntu-devel?05:18
RiddellTm_T: the launchpad to wikipage importer is ofter wrong, you can change it05:18
Tm_TRiddell: no I can't: "The Ubuntu WikiName JussiKekkonen is already registered by Jussi Kekkonen."05:19
Tm_Twell, that's me05:19
Tm_Tno idea when I registered it though =)05:19
Tm_Thmm, I'm registered twice in launchpad05:20
Tm_Tthat explains05:20
Tm_Tbut why when, I don't remember been registering at all05:20
Riddellbuzilla import creates accounts I think05:22
Tm_Tthat explains05:22
Tm_Thave to remove that another one05:23
Tm_Tinteresting that it doesn't send me any notification about that05:23
Tm_Thmm, is there any way to remove launchpad account?05:26
Riddellyou can merge them05:29
Tm_Thmm05:30
Tm_Thow?05:31
Riddellno idea I'm afraid, should be an option somewhere05:39
sethTm_T, https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge05:40
Tm_Ttack05:41
Tm_Tseth: thank you much, I think I get this solved now :p05:44
sethnp05:44
=== Tm_T have been playing around mails, svn and almost everything
Tm_Ttoday I mean05:46
Tm_Tseth|away: change it!05:59
seth|awayhahaha05:59
seth|awaybut I'm going to sleep05:59
Tm_Toh no05:59
Tm_Tstill...05:59
Tm_TI won't marry you if you use awaynick06:00
RiddellMez: you joined Kubuntu Beasties?06:01
MezI dont see why not06:01
Mezthe bugs get assigned to it dont they06:01
Mezand I just saw it as kubuntu-devel06:01
Tm_TKubuntu beasties?06:02
RiddellMez: I don't actually know what that group is06:02
Riddellif I made it, it was a long time ago06:02
Tm_T:p06:02
Mezlol06:03
Mezyou're admin of it06:03
MezIt's kubuntu-devel06:03
Mezlol06:03
Mezlike ubuntu-devel06:03
Meznor do i know06:03
Riddellif it gets bugs assigned to it the e-mail should change to kubuntu-bugs@lists06:03
MezI dunno - who set up the group06:04
Riddellwe weren't sure06:06
RiddellBeasties sound like the sort of thing I'd put in, but I have no memory of making it06:07
seth|awayyeah, what happened to just Kubuntu Team06:07
seth|awaynow every time I reply to a bug that is owned by the beasties, I get a bounce from the kubuntu-bugs list06:07
seth|awaywhich is annoying06:07
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Riddellhmm, I'll have to look at that06:12
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jjesseRiddell: question on the help files, if I click on "Kubuntu Quick Guide" in the main screen of Konq, it can't find the help file (dapper flight3, just finished updating everything)07:12
Riddelljjesse: confirmed07:14
Riddell none of them work07:15
Riddelloh well, one more docs thing to fix07:15
OddAbe19i'm going to ask a basic question, but it kinda has to do with development <---pre-warning07:30
OddAbe19is there a way to show the Home, System and Trash icons on the desktop, like stock KDE in kubuntu?07:30
Riddellreply question, why would you want to?  they're already on the panel :)07:31
OddAbe19because it's easier to access for me07:31
OddAbe19is there a way or not07:31
Riddelltry sudo cp /usr/share/applications/kde/Home.desktop ~/Desktop07:33
Riddellerr, no sudo there07:34
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Riddellhmm, doesn't work07:35
RiddellI'll need to change kdebase to install them somewhere else.  or maybe install them hidden07:36
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Tm_Thm07:40
=== Tm_T "hate"desktop icons
Tm_TI also hate broken spacebar07:40
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Simesebas: ping09:03
sebasSime: pong09:04
Simehi, i'm back from vacation.09:04
sebasHow was it?09:04
sebasDidn't break a leg and stuff? 09:04
sebasAde was skiing for only two hours and had to stay in bed for a week :-)09:05
Simeit was rather warm and sunny.09:05
sebasHm, skiing, right? :D09:05
SimeI got sunburnt everyday.09:05
Simesnowboard.09:05
sebasAye, tried that to, but it seems I'm not made for that kind of endeavour.09:05
Simei'm a bit sore in places though, but nothing serious. :-)09:05
sebasHeh, I don't wanna know the details.09:06
sebasI've been exploring LDAP in userconfig, already got some code in there09:06
Simewell, you have to fall over a lot in snowboarding,09:06
Simeand it hurts when the snow is icy.09:06
Simeyes, I saw that LDAP stuff.09:06
sebasI've been doing rollerskating for a couple of years, so I can imagine.09:07
Simewhat is the motivation for the LDAP stuff?09:07
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sebasI need a little more knowledge of LDAP and specific schemes that are used.09:07
Simeinline skating??09:07
sebasMostly that it has been buggering me to see how easy it is to implement it 09:07
sebasyeah09:07
Simefor codeyard? or?09:07
sebasFor skolelinux09:07
Simeok, thought so.09:08
sebasIn CodeYard, we don't use LDAP.09:08
sebasGood idea though, I could hack on guidance during working hours :>09:08
=== Sime has done a hell of a lot of inline skating.
sebasAh :)09:08
sebasIn Nijmegen?09:09
SimeOz.09:09
Simein the 90s. :)09:09
sebasThere's a pool and a miniramp near de Goffert, I'm thinking of trying again.09:09
sebasYeah, inline skating is sooooo 90ties ;-)09:09
SimeI've got a good pair of skates here in Nijmegen.09:09
sebasI should really do a little sports, but I guess my gear needs an upgrade, and without knowing that I'll use it a lot, I09:10
sebasd rather not put hundreds of EUR in new gear.09:10
sebasBesides, I don't see really cool skates in the shops anymore.09:10
SimeBTW, do you know how Guidance compares to the usability report?09:10
Simewhat is missing / not implemented?09:10
sebasAbout half of it.09:10
Simecoz. the kubuntu feature freeze is real soon.09:11
Simefeb 23.09:11
sebasThe bigger UI changes in userconfig are missing mainly, but I'd rather concentrate on stability / things that don't break until Dapper is out09:11
sebasRevamping the UI might cost some time to get stable, and I'm unsure as to how much time I have exactly.09:11
Simegood, concentrate on the smaller stuff. I think the big UI changes for userconfig need more thought first.09:11
sebasYeah.09:12
SimeI think it might be a good idea to i18n() the strings.09:12
sebasI was thinking about the group membership issues again (and again), I think we should map the groups to more abstract things.09:12
sebassuch as 09:12
sebas[ ]  May gain admin privileges09:12
sebas[ ]  May use the digicam09:12
sebas(That'd be the groups admin and camera in Kubuntu)09:12
sebasI'd like to hear Jan's opinion on that approach though.09:13
sebasdisplayconfig is in Dapper btw, but it's in the system administration section of kcontrol, dunno why.09:13
sebasHm, yeah, translation.09:14
sebasShould be mostly straightforward.09:14
sebasDoes feature freeze also mean string freeze?09:14
Simesetup.py should be able to handle outputing the .po files.09:14
Simestring freeze. dunno.09:14
sebasHm, ok.09:15
sebasIt's probably too much work to translate all of guidance short term anyway. 09:15
Simebut we need to get a feature complete release out in the next week or two. (should be doable)09:15
Simethe only other real new feature is automatically detecting gfx HW changes at boot time...09:16
sebasWhich works quite well on the hardware I have, btw.09:16
sebas:-)09:16
Simeand I don't know if Riddell is gaim enough to use it in dapper.09:16
SimeI'll be using it either way. ;-)09:17
Simeit is pretty simple and better than leaving a broken system for the user.09:17
Simeright now if you swap cards then the machine is 'broken'.09:17
sebasHm, yeah. I think it should go in aswell.09:18
sebasWould give us quite some testing coverage :>09:18
sebasWait, users, not beta testers :D09:18
sebasWe could blog that it *should* work and ask people to try...09:18
sebasSo we get some bugfixes in before Dapper is out.09:19
Simeyes, we will have enough stuff to test and fix before the finally dapper release.09:21
Sime(I just discovered that I need to improve handling for cards with limited video ram...)09:21
SimeI've got a machine here with 1 AGP card + 2 PCI cards.09:22
Simeso I'm busy debugging that. ;-)09:22
Simeyou can also specify which card/screen is the primary and which is the secondary screen.09:22
Riddellsebas: feature freeze != string freeze09:23
SimeRiddell: thanks,09:23
RiddellSime: game enough to use which?09:23
SimeRiddell: what is the policy about language support in kubuntu?09:23
RiddellSime: i18n should be supported09:24
Riddellthrough gettext09:24
SimeRiddell: detecting changes in the machine's gfx hw and then automatically running dpkg-reconfigure 'xserver-xorg09:24
SimeRiddell: which languages?09:24
RiddellSime: oh that, how much can go wrong :)09:25
RiddellSime: English is the only requirement, if it produces .po files then they will go into rosetta and people can translate them there09:25
SimeRiddell: as I was saying, if it works, it is better than the current situation.09:26
Riddellyep09:26
Riddellso will we get a guidance release before February 23rd?09:27
Simenot quite win/win, more win/breakeven. :-)09:27
Simefeb 23 => yes,09:27
Riddellbefore :)09:27
Simehopefully a bit early that the 23rd.09:27
Riddellfeature freeze is start of 23rd UTC09:27
Riddellso anytime on 22nd is perfect :)09:27
Simeearlier09:27
Simeabout two weeks then..09:28
Riddellwonderful09:28
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Simesebas: have you set up displayconfig-hwprobe.py to run at boot time?09:45
sebasSime: Not that I know.09:47
sebasDo we want that?09:48
Simehave you just played with it a bit?09:48
sebas(Loading python at boot time is something distropeople would not like)09:48
sebasNo, I wasn't aware of its existance.09:48
Simeoh, check out displayconfig-hwprobe.py then.09:49
Simeit is rather small and fast. It just checks hw changes at boottime.09:51
Simewell that is the idea.09:51
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MezRiddell: ping10:20
RiddellMez: hi10:20
MezRiddell: arts has built and installed fine backported - starting on kdelibs10:21
RiddellMez: rocking10:21
Tonio_Riddell: concerning the kde settings, do you think it is a good idea to enable the double click by default ?10:22
Mezriddell: if everything goes fine I should be able to request it for backports later today10:22
RiddellMez: people have been requesting konversation too10:22
Tonio_I personnaly don't know anyone that uses simpleclick10:22
RiddellTonio_: no, too big a change from kde defaults10:22
MezRiddell, has konv been uploaded?10:22
Mez(0.19)10:22
RiddellMez: yes10:22
MezRiddell, might be better to sync from debian ?10:23
Mezwhen it's in debian10:23
Riddellwhy?10:23
Mezwell - there was a lil bug in my package10:23
Meznot so much a bug - but meh10:23
Riddellthat won't help the backport though10:23
Mezit had gmo files it didnt need10:23
MezIt'll have to be done after any lde update so it builds right10:24
Mezhmm10:24
hungerIs there anything I can do to help fix this gnome-desktop file issue in current dapper?10:24
MezI'm gonna have to request everything kde to be backported again10:24
Riddellhunger: sure, program the fix10:25
Riddelllde?10:25
hungerRiddell: That is the one thing I hoped not to hear;-)10:25
hungerRiddell: Can you at least point me into a general direction?10:26
Riddellhunger: ksmserver possibly10:26
hungerIt should be in kdebase... or kdelibs?10:27
hungerRiddell: Thanks.10:27
Riddellkdebase10:28
hungerRiddell: Found it, thanks!10:28
MezRiddell: I'm assuming that if kdelibs and kdebase go fine - I shouldnt have a problem with the other stuff10:29
RiddellMez: that's the hope yes10:31
Mezbhest to check anyways10:32
Riddellyes, definatly10:33
Riddellmy hope is that 3.5.2 will be easy :)10:33
Mezlol10:33
Tm_T=)10:39
hungerRiddell: KDE does ignore the OnlyShowIn, etc. or so it seams at a first glance in kdelibs.10:40
MezRiddell, you're a pain..10:51
Mezhave you seen how many things i have to re-backport10:52
Mezhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy-backports/kde/10:52
Riddellhunger: hmm, I get gnome-power-manager started, maybe it's in my session10:58
MezRiddell: will everything need to be rebuilt against the new kdelibs? or should it be fine?11:02
Mezbecause - are we going to have to like - backport all KDE apps?11:02
RiddellMez: no, it's all binary compatible11:08
Mezoh 11:08
Mezthen i shouldnt need to re-backort stuff11:08
Riddellno11:08
Riddellotherwise I'd have to rebuild the whole archive each time there was a new kdelibs11:08
Meztrue11:09
hungerRiddell: Is it OK to change the API of kdelibs to fix the gnome-autostart issue or should I better not do that?11:09
hungerI'd add a function... that shouldn't cause havok, should it?11:09
hungerlibarts1-dev has unmet dependencies.11:13
hungerkdelibs depends on it... what now?11:13
Riddellhunger: adding a function might break ABI I'm not sure11:15
Riddellor maybe that's only virtual functions11:15
hungerRiddell: adding shouldn't break ABI IIRC...11:15
Riddellyou'd need to check the ABI compatibility stuff on developer.kde.org11:15
Riddelladding something does, I remember it having no logic at all11:15
hungerRiddell: I need to check whether it works at all:-)11:15
Riddell(unless you know about compiler formats presumably)11:15
hungerRiddell: What about libarts1-dev?11:16
MezRiddell, grr - I'm gona have to redo that now11:17
hungerAny idea how I can install that?11:18
Riddellhunger: it's in main11:19
RiddellMez: what? why?11:19
hungerRiddell: It is not installable.11:19
Riddellhunger: why not?11:19
MezRiddell, because it syncs from dapper 11:20
Mezif you're changing arts - I need to check the new version backportds11:20
hungerRiddell: unmet dependencies: libarts1-dev: Depends: libarts1c2a (= 1.5.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu111:20
RiddellMez: I'm not changing arts11:20
hungerRiddell: Depends: libartsc0-dev (= 1.5.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed11:20
Mezthought you were ?11:20
RiddellMez: no, what made you think that?11:21
Riddellhunger: that's broken, I think arts 4:3.5.1 was a mistake I made when first asking for testers of something11:21
Mezyou were talking about it - an changing it now ?11:22
hungerRiddell: So what can I do to make apt install the beast?11:22
RiddellMez: it was the lsb/base-files issue, but arts already build-deps on them11:23
Riddellhunger: what does apt-cache policy libartsc1c2a say?11:24
hungerW: Unable to locate package libartsc1c2a11:25
Riddellapt-cache policy libarts1c2a 11:28
hungerInstalled: 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu111:29
hungerCandidate: 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu111:29
Mezibarts1c2a:11:29
Mez  Installed: 1.5.1-0ubuntu111:29
Mez  Candidate: 1.5.1-0ubuntu111:29
Mez  Version table:11:29
Mez *** 1.5.1-0ubuntu1 011:29
Mez        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages11:29
Mez        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status11:29
hunger  Version table:11:30
hunger *** 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu1 011:30
hunger        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status11:30
hunger     1.5.1-0ubuntu1 011:30
hunger        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages11:30
Riddellhunger: I'm afraid I think you need to remove arts and then reinstall everything11:30
MezRiddell:it seems to be doing some post-processing11:31
RiddellMez: what does?11:31
Mezno - i mean it's got to the post-processin stage11:31
Riddellkdelibs?11:32
Mezyeah11:32
hungerRiddell: Thanks, that fixes it.11:32
Riddellthat's a good sign :)11:32
Mez* Post-processing files in kdecore/html11:32
MezRiddell: thats why i told you11:32
MezRiddell: It just hit the install target11:35
Mezw00t11:35
hungerRiddell: When I do dpkg-buildpackage in kdelibs, will that override my patch?11:36
RiddellMez: lets just hope it's creating the correct packages11:36
Riddellhunger: no11:36
Riddellhunger: use debuild11:36
Riddell(does the same thing but with extra checks11:36
hungerRiddell: Well, it does remove my patch... but since I put it into debian/patches it reapplied it right away;-)11:37
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HobbseeRiddell: ping11:45
RiddellHobbsee: hi11:45
hungerHow long does kdelibs need to build approximately?11:46
Hobbsee:) you are on11:46
HobbseeRiddell: i have good news and bad news for you11:46
Mezhunger, so far an hour and 25 mins11:46
Hobbseethe good:  dapper debs finished uploading.  The bad: the breezy debs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/813111:46
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RiddellHobbsee: export LANG=C11:47
Hobbseeand that'll fix the error at the end?11:48
RiddellHobbsee: sed -i 's/&kmousetool;/KMouseTool/' doc/kword/a11y.docbook 11:48
RiddellHobbsee: debuild -nc11:48
Hobbseeok, trying that11:49
Hobbseeargh, i was going to reboot before doing that....11:49
Hobbseetoo late11:49
Hobbseemaybe i will, and cancel it11:50
Riddelldebuild -nc don't compile everything again, just the install stages11:50
hungerfloam: That might still be in time for etch;-)11:51
hungerSorry for that... wrong channel again.11:52
Riddellsebas: are you able to book another bed at fosdem?11:52
hungerRiddell: Will you be at fosdem?11:53
Riddellhunger: should be yes11:53
RiddellI'm giving a talk11:53
hungerRiddell: I have not yet checked the list of speakers.11:53
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hungerRiddell: I think I owe you a couple of beers for your work. Maybe I can make it to brussels:-)11:54
Riddell:)11:55
RiddellI'm only in the KDE room11:55
sebasRiddell: There's exactly one bed left.11:55
hungerRiddell: Well, usually everybody meets up at some bar on friday:-)11:56
Riddellsebas: ooh, can I book it then?11:56
sebasRiddell: Yes.11:56
sebasCould you send me an email with the address, and preferably FOSDEM in the subject line, so I don't loose track?11:57
MezFUCK12:00
MezI just accidentally deleted the .debs12:00
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MezI've spent 2 hours building tht12:00
Mezoh12:00
Mezactually12:00
Mezmight not have yet12:01
MezI dont know if it copied the result out12:01
Riddelldebuild -nc is your friend12:01
Riddellsebas: will do12:01
MezRiddell, cept I'm having to use pbuilds :D remember?12:01
Riddelloh, yeah12:01
Mez/bin/sh: --attr=language,section,Language Section: command not found12:01
Mezo_o12:01
Riddell?12:01
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sebasRiddell: Excellent.12:02

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