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| ajmitch_ | afternoon | 12:41 |
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| LaserJock | hi ajmitch_ | 12:42 |
| raphink | yeepee | 12:52 |
| raphink | hello ajmitch_ && LaserJock | 12:53 |
| LaserJock | hi raphink | 12:54 |
| raphink | :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | I'm having lost of fun :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | developping revu-tools :) | 12:55 |
| raphink | now there's no need for arguments in it anymore :) | 12:56 |
| raphink | this was my goal tonight ;) | 12:56 |
| raphink | for lazy reviewers :) | 12:56 |
| LaserJock | I'm trying to figure out what to do when I get my Intel iMac tomorrow | 12:59 |
| Hobbsee_away | LaserJock: defenestrate it? :P | 12:59 |
| Hobbsee_away | siretart: ping | 01:00 |
| raphink | hehe | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | I've got to figure out how to get access to my Ubuntu box so I can continue contributing | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | I think I can just take it home but then I need to figure out how to ssh to it behind my dsl router :( I'm not very good with networking. | 01:01 |
| crimsun | just configure your dsl "router" to forward incoming tcp/22 to your Ubuntu box | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | but how do I know what the dsl routers IP is? | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | from the outside | 01:02 |
| Hobbsee_away | dont you do it from one of the inside computers? | 01:02 |
| LaserJock | don't the inside computers just see it's local lan IP? | 01:03 |
| Hobbsee_away | er.....yeah...i think so. as in 192.168.50.1 or whatever? | 01:04 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: your "router" more than likely has an admin interface (Web-based) | 01:04 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: that interface would reveal the pertinent info | 01:04 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: right, I've been to it from the inside, but how do I see what its public IP is? | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee_away | but you have to know how to get to the admin web-based interface | 01:04 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: from the outside? Have you sshed to any remote boxes from an internal machine? | 01:05 |
| crimsun | and don't svn commits log the IP? | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | I could | 01:05 |
| crimsun | barring that, check the full headers of any e-mails sent to any mailing lists | 01:05 |
| LaserJock | but because it is dsl the IP switches sometimes, it isn't static | 01:06 |
| crimsun | if you use a Linksys wrt54g AP, then it has a built-in dyndns client that you can configure | 01:06 |
| crimsun | bbl | 01:07 |
| LaserJock | I just need to figure out a way to tell what it is from the inside computer. I guess I could have an inside computer email every so often and I could get it from there | 01:07 |
| siretart | 01:14 | |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: alot of those dyndns services will use the incoming ip | 01:20 |
| Lathiat | for the web request | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | Lathiat: so how would I minipulate those to have an Ubuntu box inside the network send the router's public ip to me outside? | 01:26 |
| Lathiat | LaserJock: you nat the ubuntu box out right? | 01:27 |
| LaserJock | umm, I think so | 01:29 |
| Lathiat | so | 01:29 |
| Lathiat | when you connect out | 01:29 |
| Lathiat | the dyndns server sees your real ip | 01:29 |
| Lathiat | so it just takes that? | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | so I can have it ssh my outside box? | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | I hate to have an open ssh connection all the time just to find the IP | 01:30 |
| Lathiat | yes | 01:30 |
| Lathiat | you install a dyndns client | 01:30 |
| Lathiat | and it updates a host like | 01:31 |
| Lathiat | laserjock.dyndns.org | 01:31 |
| Lathiat | with whatever your ip is currently | 01:31 |
| hub | wonderful | 01:31 |
| Lathiat | based on what it conencts out as | 01:31 |
| Lathiat | which it will do automatically | 01:31 |
| hub | trying to print from t-bird or firefox freeze | 01:31 |
| hub | grrr | 01:31 |
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| LaserJock | Lathiat: ohhhh, now I see. Thanks. | 01:32 |
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| thierry | siretart : did you have time to review my package? libfxruby1.4 | 02:42 |
| thierry | any motu who could review libfxruby1.4 ??? | 02:43 |
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| Lathiat | thierry: is it on revu? | 03:03 |
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| thierry | Lathiat : yep | 03:11 |
| raphink | siretart: ping? | 03:12 |
| thierry | Lathiat : are you going to review it? | 03:12 |
| Mez | raphink, sup? revu stuff? | 03:13 |
| raphink | Mez: yep :) | 03:14 |
| raphink | Mez: siretart told me he would add me rights to commit the svn to REVU | 03:15 |
| raphink | but I don' tknow how to do so | 03:15 |
| raphink | I'm commited my changes to the svn as update 122 | 03:15 |
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| Mez | http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi | 03:15 |
| raphink | Mez: can't seem to find where it tells how to commit the svn hooks | 03:17 |
| raphink | maybe it's just because I'm a bit tired,but I don't see it :s | 03:17 |
| Mez | *shrugs* | 03:17 |
| Mez | I'm not too sure | 03:17 |
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| raphink | nm, I'll ask siretart tomorrow then :) | 03:17 |
| raphink | that's fine | 03:17 |
| raphink | I won't use it tonight anway I'm going to bed | 03:18 |
| raphink | :) | 03:18 |
| raphink|sleep | gn8 everybody | 03:20 |
| Mez | night | 03:20 |
| CosmoDad | when are merges being put into universe so I can install them via apt? | 03:22 |
| raphink|sleep | CosmoDad: in 8 months | 03:24 |
| CosmoDad | raphink|sleep: and which packages will be put into backports? | 03:24 |
| raphink|sleep | the ones you request, with a good reason to request them, and that : | 03:25 |
| raphink|sleep | * build from dapper package in breezy without a change | 03:25 |
| Mez | CosmoDad, best to ask me about backports | 03:25 |
| raphink|sleep | * have a good reason to be backported | 03:25 |
| raphink|sleep | Mez: talking about backports, what's the status for pureadmin ? | 03:25 |
| CosmoDad | Mez: I'm using vpnc and been reading about some bugs it has some month ago | 03:26 |
| Mez | raphink: WIP | 03:26 |
| CosmoDad | Mez: and I wondered if upgrades ever become available anywhere before dapper, possibly backports | 03:26 |
| raphink|sleep | WIP?? | 03:26 |
| raphink|sleep | Mez: what's that? | 03:26 |
| Mez | Work in progress | 03:26 |
| raphink|sleep | ohok | 03:26 |
| raphink|sleep | thanks | 03:26 |
| Mez | CosmoDad, nothing gone to mainling list about it | 03:26 |
| raphink|sleep | not that I mind about this package actually ;) | 03:27 |
| raphink|sleep | ok | 03:27 |
| raphink|sleep | I'm really gone now | 03:27 |
| raphink|sleep | bye | 03:27 |
| CosmoDad | Mez: read about it on Ubuntus "bugzilla" | 03:27 |
| Mez | not a request fr backport | 03:28 |
| CosmoDad | Mez: you mean it hasn't been requested in malone or malone is not there for requests? | 03:30 |
| Mez | I mean - we havent had any request for it to be bakported that I can find (all requests to ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com) | 03:31 |
| CosmoDad | Mez: so is there any relation between MOTU and backports? | 03:32 |
| Mez | vaguely. | 03:32 |
| CosmoDad | I mean why wouldn't merged packages be put into backport? | 03:32 |
| Mez | not unless requested, no | 03:33 |
| CosmoDad | so if merged packages are only for the next release of ubuntu, why is merging done 8 month prior to releasing? | 03:34 |
| CosmoDad | just wanna understand how things work... | 03:35 |
| crimsun | because we hand-merge | 03:35 |
| crimsun | and 16000 packages to hand-merge is no joke for a half-dozen people. | 03:35 |
| ajmitch_ | and it wasn't said that merging is done 8 months prior to release | 03:36 |
| CosmoDad | ok.. | 03:36 |
| ajmitch_ | 'merging' is just a name for getting the newer versions from debian & incorporating our changes | 03:37 |
| ajmitch_ | which is done at the start of each release cycle | 03:37 |
| ajmitch_ | up until upstream version freeze time, when we take no new upstream versions in | 03:38 |
| CosmoDad | I understand | 03:38 |
| CosmoDad | can you sum up the major things you need to do when merging? | 03:39 |
| CosmoDad | except for upgrading the version field.. | 03:39 |
| ajmitch_ | depends on the package | 03:39 |
| CosmoDad | I mean what's the major differences between debian and ubuntu packages? | 03:39 |
| tseng | there is none | 03:39 |
| CosmoDad | so what's an example for "our changes" that need to be "incorporated"? | 03:40 |
| crimsun | differing build-dependencies, packaging differences, and so on | 03:41 |
| CosmoDad | ok | 03:41 |
| CosmoDad | I wonder why build-deps are different in debian and ubuntu, but I guess there's plenty of docs on your site that I should take a look at... | 03:43 |
| Mez | CosmoDad, because some things we've updated faster than debian- for example, python in ubuntu default is 2.4 - in debian, 2.3 | 03:45 |
| Mez | therefore we need dfferent build deps for ubuntu python stuff | 03:45 |
| CosmoDad | that makes sense | 03:46 |
| CosmoDad | but isn't ubuntu based on debian unstable on each release? | 03:46 |
| ajmitch_ | yes | 03:46 |
| ajmitch_ | and debian unstable is still behind in a number of areas | 03:47 |
| CosmoDad | so you do additional upgrades on top of debian unstable? | 03:47 |
| Mez | yes - we focus on some stuff and bump it higher/faster than debian | 03:48 |
| CosmoDad | so what will happen if I file a (valid) backport request for vpnc: will you use a merged/synced version or repeat the process or backporting for yourself? | 03:51 |
| Mez | we backport from dapper version to breezy | 03:51 |
| CosmoDad | and what's the version of a package in dapper based on? | 03:52 |
| Mez | depends on the package | 03:52 |
| Mez | currently dapper version = debian version | 03:53 |
| CosmoDad | debian sid version that is? | 03:53 |
| Mez | sid/etch | 03:54 |
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| zakame | afternoon MOTUs :) | 06:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | morning zakame :) | 06:49 |
| zakame | heya Gloubiboulga :) | 06:49 |
| LaserJock | hi zakame and Gloubiboulga | 06:58 |
| zakame | heya LaserJock :D | 06:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi LaserJock :) | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | how's it going guys? | 06:59 |
| Gloubiboulga | very well, i'm on holidays ;) | 07:00 |
| zakame | I'm blogging about ABT/Ph last week :) | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm got back from a conference and am trying to get caught up and organized. Also I'm getting an Intel iMac tomorrow so I'm figuring out how to get ssh and vnc set up so I can access my Ubuntu box from it. | 07:01 |
| jsgotangco | that shouldnt be complicted | 07:03 |
| zakame | yay! | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I think I got it all figured out | 07:03 |
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| marcin` | hello MOTUs | 07:43 |
| zakame | heya marcin` long time no c | 07:43 |
| marcin` | could someone help me with packaging some webapp? | 07:44 |
| marcin` | I would like to set it up properly with webapps policy | 07:44 |
| marcin` | but I'm not sure how should I configure webapp with apache... | 07:45 |
| marcin` | currently I just got shortcut from /usr/share/webapp to /var/www/webapp and it is ok | 07:45 |
| marcin` | but not with webapp policy | 07:45 |
| marcin` | any suggestions how to configure this stuff? | 07:46 |
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| glick | hello? | 07:46 |
| LaserJock | hello glick | 07:46 |
| glick | excuse me, quick question, if you delete a user throught the gnome user thingie, does it delete all traces of that user? including all files and such? no one in #ubuntu knows thought one of you might? | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | like ~/ ? | 07:47 |
| glick | yeah and mailbox files and stuff like that | 07:48 |
| zakame | well it should work like deluser, right? | 07:48 |
| glick | i dont know how deluser works :D | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | glick: "man deluser" is your friend ;-)i | 07:49 |
| zakame | hehe, well i could be wrong, but I don't think it does remove all traces of the user's files in /home | 07:49 |
| LaserJock | although --remove-all-files would probably get close | 07:50 |
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| ajmitch_ | evening | 09:06 |
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| Gloubiboulga | next CC is tomorrow, is it too late ? | 09:58 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 10:23 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hi phanatic | 10:29 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi Tonio_ | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | hi :) | 10:29 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga :) | 10:34 |
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| raphink | tthanks for committing the svn siretart | 11:52 |
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| siretart | raphink: n/p | 11:53 |
| raphink | :) | 11:55 |
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| Tonio_ | re all.... | 12:43 |
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| thierry | anyone who could review my package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1589 , siretart? | 01:07 |
| raphink | thierry: can you provide me a url to the upstream tarball please? | 01:09 |
| siretart | thierry: better ask lucas, since he knows ruby a lot better than I do | 01:13 |
| lucas | thierry: please add a watch file | 01:14 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 01:15 |
| lucas | I don't see where you generate the manpage | 01:15 |
| lucas | your -dev package is empty | 01:16 |
| lucas | either it's not necessary, or something wrong happened | 01:16 |
| lucas | your other package is also empty | 01:17 |
| lucas | have you checked your package before uploading ?! | 01:17 |
| lucas | Your note about ruby in the Description is useless. | 01:18 |
| lucas | add the homepage for libfxruby instead | 01:18 |
| lucas | and provide a real description (like what FOX is) | 01:18 |
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| lucas | and please explain why libfxruby1.4-dev is arch: any and not arch: all | 01:19 |
| lucas | thierry: you got all that, or should I copy/paste it to revu ? | 01:20 |
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| thierry | lucas : yeah please since I don't have time to fix all that right now | 01:35 |
| lucas | done | 01:35 |
| thierry | :) thanks a lot | 01:35 |
| stratus | is there a UVF exception requests list in wiki? | 01:37 |
| stratus | buxy, ping | 01:37 |
| lucas | stratus: no, you have to read the ML archives | 01:38 |
| buxy | stratus: pong | 01:38 |
| stratus | lucas, np, i'm subscribed and i see the messages about UVF exceptions there. I just asked because i said about bzrtools 0.7 and dholbach was going to accept it, but nothing yet. It's important because bzrtools 0.6-2 is uninstallable | 01:39 |
| lucas | I think that the people reviewing exceptions are lagging behind | 01:39 |
| lucas | also, UVF exceptions are only processed once a week | 01:40 |
| stratus | lucas, hmm np. | 01:41 |
| stratus | lucas, what about DCT and all that? | 01:41 |
| lucas | quite stuck currently since I'm busy with real life stuff | 01:42 |
| lucas | but I hope to work on this next week | 01:42 |
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| aitor | hi | 01:44 |
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| zakame | evening MOTUs | 01:52 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 01:53 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey sistpoty | 01:58 |
| sistpoty | hi Gloubiboulga | 01:58 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi zakame & aitor too :) | 01:58 |
| stratus | lucas, oic | 01:58 |
| aitor | hi you too | 02:00 |
| aitor | :) | 02:00 |
| Toadstool | hi everybody | 02:01 |
| zakame | heya sistpoty :D | 02:03 |
| sistpoty | hi zakame, aitor, stratus :) | 02:03 |
| sistpoty | and hi Toadstool ;) | 02:03 |
| stratus | sistpoty, morning | 02:04 |
| Toadstool | sistpoty: about the get-orig-source target for dhcpv6-kame, should it download the whole tarball from ftp.kame.net or assume the tarball is already locally available ? | 02:06 |
| zakame | heya Gloubiboulga | 02:07 |
| sistpoty | Toadstool: it can download the whole tarball. you won't get around to call that really often ;) | 02:07 |
| sistpoty | Toadstool: you could also try to handle this with a watch file (not sure though, how much you can tweak there) | 02:07 |
| Toadstool | hum looks like it's really tricky with a watch file :) | 02:08 |
| zakame | heya Toadstool | 02:08 |
| sistpoty | he, can't say, haven't tried that yet... it's your choice ;) | 02:08 |
| Toadstool | hi zakame | 02:09 |
| phanatic | hi zakame | 02:09 |
| phanatic | zakame: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1579 please tell me what's wrong with the long descriptions (and which one(s)?) | 02:11 |
| Toadstool | sistpoty: do I have to add a dependency to wget somewhere in my debian/control if I choose the download target thing ? | 02:11 |
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| zakame | heya phanatic and Toadstool :D I see you're doing some REVU work :) | 02:12 |
| sistpoty | Toadstool: to my knowledge you don't need that, since get-orig-source is not called during the build process | 02:12 |
| Toadstool | ok | 02:12 |
| zakame | damn my dialup's so sucky tonight :(( | 02:14 |
| zakame | phanatic: lemme check | 02:17 |
| phanatic | zakame: thanks | 02:19 |
| sistpoty | lucas: I just saw your comments to libfxruby... libfxruby and -dev must be arch:any, since the -dev contains (or should contain) the static library | 02:19 |
| sistpoty | lucas: and if upstream provides distinct sources, these should also be made distinct debian source packages... if libfox get's updated, it's a transition | 02:20 |
| lucas | ok, I didn't know that since the -dev pkg was empty | 02:23 |
| sistpoty | lucas: problem is that stuff under /usr/... are touched during build which is a nogo (and ftbfs for that reason) | 02:23 |
| lucas | couldn't we package libfxruby with a conflict to prevent installation of too new libfx verisons ? | 02:23 |
| sistpoty | lucas: I don't see the point in this... | 02:24 |
| lucas | no having several source packages for the same little library that hardly nobody will use | 02:24 |
| sistpoty | lucas: if libfox were updated with incompatible api, the way to go would be to create libfox1.x and have both libs around, with the new version conflicting the old one | 02:25 |
| lucas | yeah | 02:25 |
| sistpoty | lucas: then shlibs-depends should prevent the new lib from getting installed | 02:25 |
| lucas | but what about libfxruby ? | 02:25 |
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| lucas | libfxruby could use a depend libfox >= 1.4 and conflict libfox >= 1.5 | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | lucas: libfxruby will have a dependency on the libfox version through shlibs:depend | 02:27 |
| sistpoty | +s | 02:27 |
| sistpoty | lucas: conflicts would be the wrong thing, since conflicts may only be used for packages wich contain the same files | 02:28 |
| lucas | sorry | 02:30 |
| Lathiat | X-Katie: Launchpad actually | 02:30 |
| lucas | what I meant was something like that: | 02:30 |
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| lucas | Depends: python (>= 2.4), python (<< 2.5), | 02:30 |
| lucas | anyway | 02:30 |
| lucas | the package is far from being ok | 02:31 |
| lucas | we can discuss this later | 02:31 |
| sistpoty | lucas: yes, it is... | 02:31 |
| sistpoty | lucas: and the dependencies should get filled in by shlibs:depends ;) | 02:31 |
| sistpoty | (there can be no libfox1.4-dev with a different api, since this wouldn't be libfox1.4-dev any longer) | 02:32 |
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| sistpoty | s/different/incompatible/ | 02:32 |
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| TomaszD | could comeone point me to the MOTU list? | 02:34 |
| TomaszD | *someone | 02:34 |
| sistpoty | TomaszD: what motu list do you have in mind? | 02:34 |
| TomaszD | the one with all the uvf exceptions listed | 02:34 |
| TomaszD | as in, a discussion list. | 02:35 |
| TomaszD | I don't really know how's it called in English. | 02:35 |
| sistpoty | TomaszD: uvf exceptions are handled by mail to ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com (lists.ubuntu.com -> ubuntu-motu list for web-interface) | 02:35 |
| TomaszD | it's not my native language. | 02:35 |
| TomaszD | oh thank you. | 02:35 |
| sistpoty | np | 02:35 |
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| jdub | hey gang | 02:46 |
| sistpoty | hi jdub | 02:46 |
| jdub | is there a spot to announce/mention new ubuntu packages that should be adopted in debian? (i'll cc debian-devel) | 02:46 |
| sistpoty | jdub: you could file a wnpp bug and maybe announce to utnubu... stratus: any better idea? | 02:47 |
| sistpoty | or lucas? | 02:48 |
| stratus | sistpoty, RFP in WNPP | 02:48 |
| jdub | wnpp bugs still go to d-d, right? | 02:49 |
| stratus | translating, file a bug against wnpp package (RFP: packagename -- short description) and you could Cc: debian-devel, sure | 02:49 |
| jdub | yeah, i grok the mechanism, more interested in the current etiquette :) | 02:50 |
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| stratus | jdub, oh np. btw you should Cc: debian-devel. | 02:50 |
| jdub | yeah | 02:50 |
| jdub | give them something new to flame about | 02:50 |
| stratus | jdub, well it's a big community, there are people to flame, people to fix RC bugs, you know what i mean... | 02:52 |
| jdub | gotta spread the work around ;-) | 02:52 |
| stratus | =) | 02:52 |
| jdub | at least the DPL has delegated his flaming to someone else this year ;-) | 02:52 |
| stratus | jdub, if you want to avoid noise you can mail utnubu ML | 02:53 |
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| stratus | jdub, i doubt he did, andrew just take it over | 02:54 |
| jdub | ;) | 02:54 |
| stratus | jdub, http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=30729 | 02:54 |
| jdub | do they accept/moderate random external mail? | 02:55 |
| stratus | jdub, i'm not sure you know but there are 9 guys (me, lucas and buxy included) back merging stuff from ubuntu to debian, the group is called utnubu in Debian. | 02:55 |
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| stratus | jdub, i don't know, buxy did you started mailing the list before subscribing? | 02:56 |
| stratus | only nomeata has the access | 02:56 |
| === buxy could have the access via his alioth admins powers | ||
| stratus | buxy, can't you just check if it's a non-moderated list to non-members with your super cow powers? :-P | 02:57 |
| buxy | jdub: just send the mail and you'll know the answer, it will probably be moderaed and approved by Joachim Breitner | 02:57 |
| stratus | aka. nomeata | 02:58 |
| jdub | -maintainers or -discuss? | 02:58 |
| stratus | -discuss | 02:58 |
| stratus | -maintainers is just for the maintainer field. | 02:59 |
| jdub | ok | 02:59 |
| jdub | thanks! | 02:59 |
| stratus | np, you're welcome. | 02:59 |
| zakame | heya jdub ! | 03:00 |
| zakame | X-Debbugs-CC | 03:00 |
| zakame | (to be exact, though I don't think gmail supports direct email header setting) | 03:00 |
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| zakame | which begs the question, what packages in ubuntu could be moved up to debian? :) | 03:05 |
| jdub | mine! | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 03:08 |
| zakame | I somehow knew you'd say that ;) | 03:08 |
| jdub | hrm | 03:08 |
| jdub | can i od this? | 03:08 |
| jdub | X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org | 03:08 |
| jdub | X-Debbugs-CC: utnubu-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org | 03:08 |
| jdub | 03:08 | |
| zakame | yeah I think, X-Debbugs-CC isn't really lists.d.o-specific iirc | 03:10 |
| jdub | (diziet says it hsould be one header, comma delimited) | 03:11 |
| zakame | ah | 03:11 |
| jdub | thanks dudes | 03:12 |
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| phanatic | zakame: what's your opinion then regarding nanoweb's descriptions? :) | 03:18 |
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| zakame | phanatic: homepage links should look like this: | 03:22 |
| zakame | . | 03:22 |
| zakame | Homepage: http://nanoweb.si.kz/ | 03:22 |
| phanatic | zakame: that's the only thing? if yes, then i'll upload a new version right now, fixing all the issues | 03:26 |
| zakame | phanatic: short description ought to start lowercase, and no articles (e.g., no A/An before) | 03:27 |
| phanatic | zakame: ok, corrected | 03:28 |
| phanatic | anything else maybe? | 03:29 |
| zakame | none that I can see now, builds nicely, good work :) | 03:30 |
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| phanatic | thanks, i'll upload then a corrected version | 03:32 |
| phanatic | zakame: done. should appear any minute on revu ;) | 03:34 |
| zakame | rocking :D | 03:34 |
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| sebest_ | hello, i've a segfault with NetworkManager, is there a way to have the symbol to generate a backtrace? | 03:36 |
| phanatic | zakame: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1668 :) | 03:39 |
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| phanatic | thanks :) | 03:41 |
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| Mez | siretart: ping | 03:56 |
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| raphink | anyone of you knows a way to get the url of the latest upstream tarball from uscan? | 04:07 |
| sistpoty | phanatic: I just looked over nanoweb, just ask if you have questions about my comments | 04:09 |
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| zakame | AM_SANITY_CHECK is quite obsolete to use, right? | 04:10 |
| sistpoty | raphink: perhaps with --report? or --verbose? | 04:10 |
| raphink | sistpoty: that doesn't give the url | 04:11 |
| raphink | :( | 04:11 |
| raphink | -- Found the following matching hrefs: | 04:12 |
| raphink | knmap-1.0.tar.bz2 | 04:12 |
| raphink | doen't give the whole url | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | for gnome users : http://listengnome.free.fr/index.php?nom_page=home | 04:12 |
| Tonio_ | very knew and ressembles really to amarok, nice application ;) | 04:12 |
| phanatic | sistpoty: thanks with reviewing. can i /msg you with my questions? | 04:12 |
| phanatic | s/with/for | 04:13 |
| sistpoty | phanatic: you can also just ask here, but you can /msg as well if you want | 04:13 |
| sistpoty | raphink: --dehs | 04:13 |
| raphink | --dehs ? | 04:14 |
| raphink | ah thanks much sistpoty :) | 04:14 |
| sistpoty | raphink: will give you xml-output *with* location of tarball :) (use with --report) | 04:14 |
| sistpoty | ;) | 04:14 |
| sistpoty | np | 04:14 |
| raphink | yes I saw that :) | 04:14 |
| raphink | that's good :) | 04:15 |
| Gloubiboulga | Tonio_, and .deb packages are available :) | 04:15 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: yes, but I didn't check if they are valid.... | 04:16 |
| Tonio_ | anyway, I'm not a gnome user, but according to the screenshots, it seems missing that in universe would be a pain | 04:17 |
| Gloubiboulga | Tonio_, the package is a little ugly :/ | 04:17 |
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| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: that's always what happens when developpers are packaging :) | 04:18 |
| Gloubiboulga | :) | 04:18 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: package it and come with it tomorrow at the CC ;) | 04:18 |
| ogra | Tonio_, why should he come with a package to the CC = | 04:19 |
| Gloubiboulga | why not ;) | 04:19 |
| ogra | ? | 04:19 |
| ogra | the CC isnt intrested in packages | 04:19 |
| Tonio_ | ogra: just a joke between us, that was not a "real advice" | 04:19 |
| Gloubiboulga | ogra, I try to become an ubuntu member | 04:19 |
| ogra | ah, k, *g* | 04:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | of course the debian/ dir is in the tarball... | 04:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'd have been surprised if it wasn't in | 04:23 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: did you try a lintian on it ? | 04:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | Tonio_, yes | 04:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | a lot of files are in stanged places | 04:23 |
| Tonio_ | how many output pages ? ^^ | 04:23 |
| Tonio_ | like images in /usr/lib ? | 04:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | exactly | 04:24 |
| Tonio_ | I already saw that | 04:24 |
| Tonio_ | lintian doesn't like ;) | 04:24 |
| Gloubiboulga | nop :) | 04:24 |
| Tonio_ | is scons the build system ? | 04:24 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: what you should do is probably taking the sources and build it from scratch | 04:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's a python app | 04:25 |
| Tonio_ | and eventually send the package to upstream...... | 04:25 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: and ? | 04:25 |
| Gloubiboulga | I try to see with what it's built | 04:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | scons and I are not good friends ;) | 04:26 |
| Tonio_ | scons isn't friend with any packager on earth I think ;) | 04:26 |
| Tonio_ | but scons is more to replace make than a buld system for python apps.... | 04:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | yep | 04:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | it's not used here I think | 04:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | I have to go, I'll have a closer look later | 04:27 |
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| Tonio_ | argh, messages.pot at the root of tarball.... | 04:28 |
| zakame | I've yet to see scons-based pkgs | 04:28 |
| Tonio_ | zakame: I already tried several times, what a pain......... | 04:29 |
| zakame | gaah | 04:32 |
| zakame | anyhowm gn8 all! | 04:34 |
| zakame | phanatic: I'll approve tomorrow once sistpoty 's is fixed :D | 04:34 |
| sistpoty | gn8 zakame | 04:34 |
| phanatic | zakame, sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1669 | 04:35 |
| phanatic | fixed ;) | 04:35 |
| phanatic | zakame: don't let you sleep :D | 04:35 |
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| sarita | hi | 05:10 |
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| Toadstool | sistpoty: are you here ? | 05:42 |
| Toadstool | or anyone else who has some time to check a package :) | 05:43 |
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| sistpoty | Toadstool: sorry, was afk... I'll take a look at your package later ;) | 06:12 |
| Toadstool | no prob' :) | 06:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ping | 06:12 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm? | 06:12 |
| Riddell | ah, apachelogger is becoming a MOTU, excellent :) | 06:12 |
| apachelogger | well, help kubuntu where I can :-) | 06:13 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1662 last comment | 06:13 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: so shell I place them in /usr/lib/kde3/? | 06:17 |
| Riddell | /usr/lib/kde3/ is for dynamically loadable plugins | 06:19 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: why build-dep on dh-buildinfo? | 06:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: hm, good question, not needed? | 06:21 |
| Riddell | debian/rules has dh_buildinfo in it | 06:21 |
| Riddell | but why use that is the next question | 06:21 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: maybe I add them for some test to get rid of the missing shlibs file, though I really can't remember | 06:23 |
| Riddell | rm -r debug/config.log debug/config.status | 06:24 |
| Riddell | rm: cannot remove `debug/config.log': No such file or directory | 06:24 |
| Riddell | rm: cannot remove `debug/config.status': No such file or directory | 06:24 |
| Riddell | breakage | 06:24 |
| apachelogger | I'm currently talking to the author to include a clean rule for those files | 06:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm yes, it should be in /usr/lib/kde3/ | 06:25 |
| Riddell | all other kicker applets are | 06:25 |
| apachelogger | how to get it there? | 06:26 |
| Riddell | kde_module_LTLIBRARIES = ktimemon_panelapplet.la | 06:30 |
| Riddell | something like that | 06:30 |
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| sistpoty | apachelogger: or maybe DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := --libdir=/usr/lib/kde3 | 06:38 |
| apachelogger | ah that was the the think I was searching for ... define the whole cflag is lame ;-) | 06:39 |
| apachelogger | thx Riddell, sistpoty | 06:39 |
| sistpoty | np | 06:39 |
| Riddell | fixing Makefile.am is better | 06:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: isn't that meant for .in? | 06:45 |
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| sistpoty | apachelogger: for Makefile.am... and you should report this to upstream | 06:47 |
| apachelogger | ok :-) | 06:47 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: no, Makefile.in is automatically made | 06:49 |
| Riddell | when running make -f Makefile.cvs (or admin/Makefile.common) | 06:49 |
| apachelogger | yup, pointed that out the other day | 06:49 |
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| Kyral | Anyone try installing SELinux on Dapper yet? | 06:53 |
| spacey | Kyral, ajmitch i guess:) | 06:54 |
| Kyral | lol | 06:55 |
| Kyral | I only ask because I keep seeing on boot "SELinux Failed, selinux/ doesn't exist" | 06:55 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: you watch the boot messages? ;-) | 06:58 |
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| raphink | siretart: ping | 07:11 |
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| raphink | siretart: I've just commited a new version of REVU-tools, using uscan to get the upstream tarball when there is a debian/watch | 07:44 |
| raphink | siretart: uscan requires the libwww-perl package to work though, so wondering if you would mind having it installed on tiber | 07:44 |
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| LaserJock | raphink: what does REVU-tools have in it? | 07:46 |
| raphink | LaserJock: wait a min I'll show you | 07:47 |
| raphink | :) | 07:47 |
| raphink | LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/revu-tools/Changelog | 07:50 |
| raphink | this is latest changelog from tonight's version | 07:50 |
| raphink | :) | 07:50 |
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| LaserJock | raphink: hmm, interesting. | 07:52 |
| raphink | :) | 07:52 |
| raphink | I'm having lots of fun | 07:52 |
| raphink | lol | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | raphink: is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU/REVU-Tools updated | 07:52 |
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| raphink | with yesterdays version, yes | 07:52 |
| raphink | not with tonight's | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | ok | 07:53 |
| xerxas | hi there | 07:53 |
| raphink | LaserJock: if you have any comment of suggestion :) | 07:53 |
| xerxas | slomo_, u there ? | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | so it's just for REVU reviewers, right? | 07:53 |
| raphink | LaserJock: no | 07:53 |
| slomo_ | xerxas: yes | 07:53 |
| raphink | I intend to make it tiber-independant | 07:53 |
| raphink | and make a debian package from it | 07:53 |
| raphink | I used it on my own machine today to test it | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | raphink: oh, ok. sounds cool | 07:54 |
| xerxas | hi slomo_ | 07:54 |
| raphink | it worked fine | 07:54 |
| xerxas | I just tested you're banshee package | 07:54 |
| xerxas | is it for breezy ? | 07:54 |
| xerxas | I'm on dapper but it recommands gstreamer 0.8 | 07:54 |
| slomo_ | xerxas: nope... dapper... banshee isn't completly ported to 0.10 yet and won't be for dapper | 07:55 |
| xerxas | ok | 07:55 |
| xerxas | slomo_, it's doesn't read the music on an itunes share | 07:56 |
| xerxas | it eventually crashes when starting song or browsing artists | 07:56 |
| xerxas | and it displays my mt-daapd share but nothing in there | 07:57 |
| slomo_ | hm interesting... let me test it here :) one moment please | 07:57 |
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| xerxas | slomo_, non problem | 07:57 |
| xerxas | I wanted to know ig you're aware of this | 07:58 |
| xerxas | i'll try to track those bugs | 07:58 |
| xerxas | slomo_, got to go eat | 07:58 |
| xerxas | but I have some message on the console | 07:59 |
| xerxas | will tell you later | 07:59 |
| xerxas | (or not interested in this ? ) | 07:59 |
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| slomo_ | xerxas: well, it's even worse for me :) when something is shared in the network banshee segfaults at startup... *sigh* | 08:04 |
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| raphink | yeah :) | 08:20 |
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| raphink | LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/debs/revu-tools_0.3.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb if you ever want to test | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | k | 08:23 |
| raphink | I miss the manpages still | 08:23 |
| raphink | but it works, just tested it on my box | 08:23 |
| raphink | I just had to change `pbuilder` to `sudo pbuilder` for the PBUILDERNAME variable in /usr/bin/revu-build | 08:23 |
| raphink | since I have no set sudo rights for pbuilder on my machine | 08:24 |
| raphink | and now I'll take a break from the screen :) | 08:24 |
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| raphink | thanks much siretart you rock :) | 08:41 |
| siretart | :) | 08:41 |
| raphink | siretart: how do you like my latest version? | 08:41 |
| siretart | raphink: I didn't look at it yet, I'm at my regulars table in the pub | 08:43 |
| raphink | oh ok :) | 08:43 |
| raphink | great :) | 08:43 |
| siretart | raphink: the diff looked fine, and I trust that you checked that it won't break things :) | 08:43 |
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| raphink | siretart: well basically 0.3 uses uscan to get the upstream tarball and check that no new upstream version is available | 08:44 |
| siretart | raphink: I've seen that you want to package those tools in 'motu-tools' perhaps we should remove them from revu svn and install that motu-tools package on tiber instead | 08:45 |
| raphink | hmm | 08:45 |
| raphink | I didn't talk aobut motu-tools | 08:45 |
| siretart | I installed libwww-perl as well, btw | 08:45 |
| siretart | just a guess | 08:45 |
| raphink | yes I saw that siretart, thanks | 08:45 |
| siretart | s/guess/thought/ | 08:45 |
| raphink | libwww-perl is normally installed by devscripts though | 08:46 |
| raphink | siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/debs/revu-tools_0.3.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 08:46 |
| raphink | first deb I made tonight | 08:46 |
| raphink | tiber-independant | 08:46 |
| raphink | :) | 08:46 |
| siretart | :) | 08:46 |
| siretart | shall I install that now, or is it still in development? | 08:46 |
| raphink | you can try it | 08:47 |
| raphink | it won't break anything | 08:47 |
| raphink | it just generates files in the current folder | 08:47 |
| raphink | report files | 08:47 |
| raphink | and uses pbuilder only to build | 08:47 |
| raphink | so no risk | 08:47 |
| raphink | :) | 08:47 |
| Seveas | any known issues currently with dapper/pbuilder? | 08:49 |
| Seveas | I get: vim: Depends: vim-runtime (= 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu1) but it is not installed | 08:49 |
| Seveas | when doing pbuilder creatr | 08:49 |
| raphink | no issue with dapper pbuilder today | 08:49 |
| raphink | I updated one an hour ago or so | 08:49 |
| Seveas | hmm, odd | 08:49 |
| Seveas | let's take a breezy detour then | 08:49 |
| ogra | Seveas, its broken .. | 08:50 |
| lfittl | Seveas: this happens because vim-runtime is not in main yet, only in universe | 08:50 |
| ogra | Seveas, vim-runtime isnt promoted to main | 08:50 |
| Seveas | right | 08:50 |
| Seveas | and that of course only happens on fresh pbuilders | 08:50 |
| ogra | build a breezy pbuilder and update it | 08:50 |
| Seveas | working on it already :) | 08:51 |
| ogra | :) | 08:51 |
| raphink | siretart: if you test the package on your own machine, you might want to set PBUILDERNAME in /usr/bin/revu-build to use "sudo pbuilder" or whatever you need to use | 08:51 |
| raphink | siretart: otherwise it's all well set | 08:51 |
| raphink | ok I'm off to eat | 08:51 |
| raphink | :) | 08:51 |
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| LaserJock | is there a place to check debian changelogs other than packages.debian.org? | 08:53 |
| raphink | LaserJock: for ubuntu it's changelogs.ubuntu.com | 08:54 |
| raphink | for debian there doesn't seem to be such a place | 08:55 |
| jamessan | LaserJock: http://pdo.debian.net/ is available while packages.d.o is down | 08:55 |
| jamessan | hrm, actually it looks like the changelogs aren't accessible from there, though | 08:55 |
| xerxas | slomo, you have an idea of what's happening ? | 09:01 |
| slomo | xerxas: not really... i'll debug next weekend :) | 09:01 |
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| xerxas | slomo, ok | 09:04 |
| xerxas | needs some help maybe ? | 09:04 |
| xerxas | I'm not really available at week ends ... | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | packages.debian.org has been down for quite a while, I wonder how long it is going to take to get it up again? | 09:04 |
| slomo | xerxas: not yet :) but i'll ask you when i need some help... thanks :) | 09:04 |
| xerxas | slomo, you're using mt-daapd ? I saw some patches on your site | 09:05 |
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| slomo | xerxas: nope, currently not... | 09:06 |
| xerxas | ok | 09:06 |
| xerxas | have you ever used the cvs version ? | 09:07 |
| xerxas | I'm have made some things do the debian directory , I have a package | 09:07 |
| xerxas | but it doesn't work :) | 09:07 |
| slomo | i'm still waiting for the avahi support :) i made a patch but the author wanted to do his own for some reason... and nothing happened yet | 09:08 |
| xerxas | ok ok | 09:09 |
| xerxas | I saw you're avahi patch and the musepack also | 09:09 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 09:29 |
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| Kyral | man alive its windy out | 09:33 |
| phanatic | Kyral: here it's -13 celsius degrees | 09:36 |
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| torkel | we had -28C yesterday :-) | 09:38 |
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| phanatic | torkel: that's very cold man... | 09:42 |
| Kyral | heh | 09:43 |
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| LaserJock | grr, I have the box with my new Intel iMac sitting right next to me but my boss won't let me open it until the end of the day :( | 09:46 |
| Kyral | lol | 09:46 |
| LaserJock | he knows me too well | 09:47 |
| Kyral | Is that Breezy PPC CD burning a hole in your pocket :P | 09:47 |
| phanatic | :) | 09:48 |
| LaserJock | I don't get to use Ubuntu on this machine :( | 09:48 |
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| slomo | Kyral: the intel macs are no ppc... and the x86 version doesn't work currently on that machines afaik | 09:50 |
| Kyral | ah | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | yeah, they don't have BIOS's and the graphics cards aren't supported | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | but luckily I will be able to ssh and vnc to my Ubuntu box at home | 09:50 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: are you busy? would you mind doing some merges/syncs for MOTUScience? | 09:52 |
| Kyral | uhh | 09:52 |
| Kyral | I'll try... | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | well it's not a big deal but there are about 37 packages that can be synced/merged without breaking UVF so there isn't really a reason not to | 09:55 |
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| Kyral | okay | 09:59 |
| Kyral | Hmm | 09:59 |
| Kyral | Seems I gained a new Email Addy | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: the list is at http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/science_merge.txt | 10:00 |
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| Kyral | ..LJ | 10:08 |
| Kyral | EasyChem is the same in Dapper Universe as it is in Debian Sid | 10:08 |
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| Kyral | It's revision # is just 1 | 10:10 |
| === Kyral sighs | ||
| Kyral | I'll request later | 10:10 |
| Kyral | I gotta meet someone for Dinner | 10:10 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: yeah, I know. There are a couple like that. We should just be able to ask for syncs | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: I'm just trying to keep track so I can get the syncs done in batches | 10:18 |
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| LaserJock | hi dolson | 10:18 |
| dolson | hi | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | ardour question? | 10:19 |
| dolson | yea | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | do did it build in Dapper? | 10:19 |
| dolson | no | 10:19 |
| dolson | it goes further in Breezy actually | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | but with the Dapper source? | 10:20 |
| dolson | I am trying to backport ardour from Dapper to breezy. I changed the jack lib to the 0.80 version and then ran debuild -us -uc and it compiles stuff for several minutes and then conks out with some errors | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | can you paste the errors to a pastebin? | 10:21 |
| dolson | trying to rebuild it under Dapper with no changes to the control file it fails in under a minute | 10:21 |
| crimsun | backports should be done in a pbuilder. | 10:21 |
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| Mez | crimsun, I know :D | 10:21 |
| thierry | who's daemon@poleboy.de ? he reviewed my package and I'd like to talk to him | 10:22 |
| slomo | thierry: sistpoty | 10:22 |
| apacheLAGger | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1662 is it really needed to correct the fsf address? | 10:22 |
| dolson | LaserJock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8128 | 10:22 |
| apacheLAGger | kinda annoying work | 10:22 |
| crimsun | apacheLAGger: yes, the FSF address must be correct | 10:22 |
| dolson | crimsun: this isn't an official backport or anything, I'm just trying to figure things out. I don't know anything about pbuilder at this time, but I'd be glad to learn | 10:23 |
| apacheLAGger | crimsun: any script suggestios or something? | 10:23 |
| crimsun | apacheLAGger: there are various bugs in BTS about it; you could do a sed s/foo/bar/ | 10:23 |
| apacheLAGger | ah, yeah -- sed --- thx :) | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | dolson: pbuilder would help you out. check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 10:24 |
| dolson | alright, I will read that now.. I read stuff on the net about rebuilding debs and the stuff I read didn't mention it, so unfortunately I learned the wrong method | 10:25 |
| LaserJock | dolson: that is not to say that it will make the problems go away, but it is a much cleaner environment to diagnos problems :-) | 10:25 |
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| dolson | k, I'll try it now and see what happens. | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | dolson: for what it is worth, the ardour source didn't build in my dapper pbuilder | 10:33 |
| dolson | :\ | 10:33 |
| crimsun | it shouldn't, there are API changes | 10:35 |
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| dolson | so can it be done somehow? | 10:37 |
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| crimsun | yes | 10:46 |
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| cyberserver | Hu people. I've apt-get dist-upgraded dapper right now and I'm getting a kernel panic. Anyone faced similar problem? I think my initrd file got currupted.. or there is something wrong with the latest kernel packages.. | 10:56 |
| crimsun | 14.19 works fine on i686 | 10:56 |
| cyberserver | Hmmm... strange.. | 10:57 |
| cyberserver | ... I am notisting that I have linux-image-2.6.15-14-686 package installed... | 10:57 |
| cyberserver | ... but my grub menu only shows linux-image-2.6.15-13-686 | 10:57 |
| cyberserver | The package hasn't updated the grub entries?!? | 10:58 |
| crimsun | sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-14-686 | 10:58 |
| cyberserver | haaaa!!! Got it :-p "Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... sed: couldn't write 75 items to stdout: No space left on device" | 10:59 |
| cyberserver | Thanks crimsun ! :-p | 11:00 |
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| mdke | anyone looking for an easy bugfix? bug 30694 | 11:01 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 30694 in xmms "unfriendly menu entry for XMMS" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30694 | 11:01 |
| crimsun | that's not very easy for most of us, seeing how most of us don't have main privs ;) | 11:02 |
| mdke | gah | 11:02 |
| LaserJock | lol | 11:03 |
| mdke | i just assumed it would be in universe | 11:03 |
| mdke | sorry | 11:03 |
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| cyberserver | People, do you think we can purge all old "half-removed" packages? I do an "dpkg -l | grep rc" and I'll see quite some packages in "rc" state... xorg-common (6.8.2-77) , for instance... | 11:12 |
| cyberserver | or is this a risky thing to do? | 11:12 |
| crimsun | it's not risky at all | 11:12 |
| crimsun | sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l |grep ^rc |awk '{ print $2 }') | 11:13 |
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| dolson | alright, I think I'm too stupid to do this | 11:15 |
| crimsun | I'd be happy to help you with it later, but I'm currently knee deep in $stuff | 11:15 |
| dolson | that would be great! I don't have a job right now, so I'll be here :/ | 11:16 |
| dolson | I got pbuilder going and all that, and I think I understand how it works, so that's a step forward | 11:16 |
| crimsun | once you have pbuilder configured, it's not too bad | 11:16 |
| dolson | yeah, it's all done but it fails at the same point as when I used debuild | 11:17 |
| TheMuso | Has anybody tried to create a dapper pbuilder environment recently and have it fail on a package dependancy problem with vim-runtime when it is trying to bootstrap/update? If so, how do I fix that? | 11:19 |
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| crimsun | TheMuso: dist-upgrade from within a Breezy pbuilder | 11:20 |
| TheMuso | um ok. This happens when I am trying to create a pbuilder environment... | 11:21 |
| TheMuso | ah yep I get it. | 11:21 |
| cyberserver | Well, I'm booting into my new kernel.... | 11:21 |
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| cyberserver | ...see you soon.. I hope :-p | 11:21 |
| tiCo89 | is it true that ubuntu still searchs developers? | 11:27 |
| LaserJock | tiCo89: what do you mean? | 11:27 |
| tiCo89 | i mean what i said... are you still searching developers? | 11:27 |
| tiCo89 | real, registered developers... | 11:28 |
| crimsun | please quantify that. | 11:29 |
| crimsun | we're (as MOTU) continually seeking help | 11:29 |
| crimsun | if you mean core developers, you'll need to see the Ubuntu and Canonical Web sites | 11:30 |
| tiCo89 | and is it possible to get a developer? somebody which may upload packages (not sponsored)... | 11:30 |
| crimsun | what do you mean? | 11:31 |
| tiCo89 | oh god... | 11:31 |
| azeem | tiCo89: you mean Ubuntu is looking for developers | 11:31 |
| tiCo89 | azeem: yes... | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | the MOTU can upload to Universe but you have to be a core dev to upload to Main | 11:31 |
| tiCo89 | aha, and is it possible to get a motu? | 11:32 |
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| crimsun | sure, lots of us are here | 11:32 |
| tiCo89 | or is it like in debian where you wait lots of years... | 11:32 |
| dolson | I think tiCo89 wants to become a MOTU | 11:32 |
| tiCo89 | yes | 11:32 |
| crimsun | ...yeah, I think that's what you mean | 11:32 |
| tiCo89 | i'm already a debian maintainer and have soe expirience | 11:32 |
| tiCo89 | and i'd like to help also ubuntu | 11:33 |
| crimsun | tiCo89: then you just need to spend a few months and demonstrate solid teamwork and dedication to Ubuntu (and Debian) | 11:33 |
| crimsun | cf. StevenK, who became a MOTU rather quickly | 11:33 |
| tiCo89 | okey... | 11:34 |
| raphink | siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1332 | 11:34 |
| tiCo89 | have you to search here always a sponsor too? | 11:34 |
| raphink | siretart: can you nuke that please ? (see my last comment) | 11:34 |
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| cyberserver | New kernel is woking fine :-) | 11:34 |
| crimsun | tiCo89: until you become a member of the Launchpad ubuntu-dev team, yes | 11:34 |
| raphink | :) | 11:34 |
| tiCo89 | crimsun: what do you think? how long does this "NM"-process need? | 11:35 |
| LaserJock | and you should become an Ubuntu Member first, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember/ has details | 11:35 |
| crimsun | tiCo89: at least a couple months | 11:35 |
| raphink | tiCo89: the NM process in Debian can last years, at least months | 11:35 |
| raphink | tiCo89: it's faster to be an Ubuntu dev, for sure :) | 11:35 |
| tiCo89 | raphink: yes i know it, i'm in NM of debian =) | 11:35 |
| raphink | tiCo89: ok | 11:36 |
| raphink | tiCo89: in Ubuntu, if you do a good job, you can be a dev in a matter of, say, 2 months :) | 11:36 |
| tiCo89 | funny ;-) | 11:38 |
| raphink | why funny? | 11:39 |
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| tiCo89 | and my gpg key is signed from 3 DDs | 11:39 |
| tiCo89 | so i register soon as a newmember =) | 11:40 |
| raphink | hmmm | 11:40 |
| raphink | how long have you been in Ubuntu tiCo89 ? | 11:40 |
| tiCo89 | it's funny to get a developer in 2 months... | 11:40 |
| tiCo89 | hmmm, since warty... | 11:40 |
| raphink | ok | 11:40 |
| raphink | did you get your packages in Ubuntu? | 11:41 |
| raphink | :) | 11:41 |
| tiCo89 | en example: packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/ngircd | 11:42 |
| raphink | mhm | 11:42 |
| raphink | :) | 11:42 |
| tiCo89 | hmmm | 11:42 |
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| raphink | tiCo89: is your work for ubuntu documented on your wiki page? | 11:44 |
| raphink | I can't find your wiki page | 11:44 |
| tiCo89 | not yet... | 11:44 |
| tiCo89 | i do it tomorrow at work | 11:44 |
| tiCo89 | and register as a member.. | 11:44 |
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| raphink | when do you plan on applying? | 11:45 |
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| tiCo89 | raphink: apply for what? membership? tomorrow... | 11:45 |
| raphink | oh ok | 11:45 |
| tiCo89 | what's the age of the youngest motu? :-S | 11:46 |
| raphink | tiCo89: no idea | 11:47 |
| Hobbsee | tiCo89: got no idea, but i'd be one of the youngest on this channel i suspect | 11:47 |
| raphink | I hope jpatrick can be one soon , and he's 14 now | 11:47 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: how old are you, if you don't mind me asking? | 11:47 |
| tiCo89 | hmm okey, fine, so i'm not the youngest with 16 =) | 11:48 |
| tiCo89 | in the linux user groups i'm always the youngest :-( | 11:48 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: 17 | 11:48 |
| raphink | ok | 11:48 |
| Hobbsee | tiCo89: ah, you win the honour then :P | 11:48 |
| raphink | I feel like a gwanpa then | 11:48 |
| raphink | ;) | 11:48 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: but you're a girl, so he should leave it to you :) | 11:48 |
| tiCo89 | Hobbsee: i have already honour with my speeches ;-) | 11:48 |
| LaserJock | yeah, well I'm 8. j/k . my wife probably would say that I am though ;-) | 11:49 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: good point | 11:49 |
| tiCo89 | LaserJock: *smile* | 11:49 |
| Kyral | Hmm | 11:49 |
| tiCo89 | 8 to the power of 2? :) | 11:50 |
| Kyral | can I resize a Reiser3 FS live? | 11:50 |
| raphink | lol | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | tiCo89: not quite that old | 11:50 |
| apachelogger | raphink, Riddell: time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1673 ? .... the author and I made some adaptions to get a better deb with less lines in debian dir :) | 11:50 |
| raphink | LaserJock: oh really? | 11:50 |
| Kyral | I can't remember lol | 11:50 |
| LaserJock | I think I'm about as old as raphink | 11:50 |
| raphink | LaserJock: really? | 11:51 |
| raphink | I'm not married I'ma fraid :( | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | raphink: well, spill the beans, how old are you? | 11:51 |
| raphink | apachelogger: it would be nice if you added a debian/watch file | 11:51 |
| raphink | LaserJock: 23 | 11:51 |
| raphink | you? | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | raphink: yep, I'm your senior. I just turned 24 a few months ago | 11:52 |
| raphink | apachelogger: for now, do you have the url to the upstream tarball? | 11:52 |
| apachelogger | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29552 | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | but I feel old. I'm almost done with my PhD and I've been married for 4 1/2 years | 11:52 |
| raphink | thanks | 11:52 |
| raphink | apachelogger: you know how to make debian/watch? | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | I even don't knwo what it is supposed to do :| | 11:53 |
| raphink | apachelogger: automatize the update of the package | 11:53 |
| raphink | wait a min apachelogger I'll show you | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | k | 11:54 |
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| thierry | LaserJock : what's PhD ? physic science diploma? | 11:54 |
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| thierry | LaserJock : I'm french-canadian so name changes here | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | thierry: Doctorate of Philosophy, the general doctorate | 11:55 |
| raphink | un doctorat de sciences | 11:55 |
| raphink | ah | 11:55 |
| thierry | LaserJock : wow great | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | it is general. mine will be in Physical Chemistry | 11:55 |
| raphink | ok | 11:55 |
| raphink | apachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/nanoweb-0602061030/nanoweb-2.2.7/debian/watch | 11:56 |
| raphink | this is a simple - yet efficient - one | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | so version = file version ... and path in regular, that's it? | 11:57 |
| raphink | apachelogger: version=3 now | 11:57 |
| raphink | it's the debian/watch version | 11:57 |
| raphink | use 3 | 11:57 |
| apachelogger | yeah, that's what I meant :-) | 11:58 |
| raphink | the path is the path to the file, as regexpr for perl | 11:58 |
| raphink | (.*) being used as version number | 11:58 |
| raphink | so get where the file is on he upstream website | 11:58 |
| raphink | it's better | 11:58 |
| raphink | apachelogger: once you have a debian/watch, you can use uscan to uupdate your package | 11:59 |
| raphink | and I can use it to review it, too :) | 11:59 |
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