=== apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N806P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo_cobuntu [n=user@dslc-213-023-140-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === iceman_ [n=iceman@108-249.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo_cobuntu [n=user@dslc-213-023-140-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-11.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] afternoon [12:42] hi ajmitch_ [12:52] yeepee [12:53] hello ajmitch_ && LaserJock [12:54] hi raphink [12:54] :) [12:54] I'm having lost of fun :) [12:55] developping revu-tools :) [12:56] now there's no need for arguments in it anymore :) [12:56] this was my goal tonight ;) [12:56] for lazy reviewers :) [12:59] I'm trying to figure out what to do when I get my Intel iMac tomorrow [12:59] LaserJock: defenestrate it? :P [01:00] siretart: ping [01:00] hehe [01:00] I've got to figure out how to get access to my Ubuntu box so I can continue contributing [01:01] I think I can just take it home but then I need to figure out how to ssh to it behind my dsl router :( I'm not very good with networking. [01:02] just configure your dsl "router" to forward incoming tcp/22 to your Ubuntu box [01:02] but how do I know what the dsl routers IP is? [01:02] from the outside [01:02] dont you do it from one of the inside computers? [01:03] don't the inside computers just see it's local lan IP? [01:04] er.....yeah...i think so. as in 192.168.50.1 or whatever? [01:04] LaserJock: your "router" more than likely has an admin interface (Web-based) [01:04] LaserJock: that interface would reveal the pertinent info [01:04] crimsun: right, I've been to it from the inside, but how do I see what its public IP is? [01:04] but you have to know how to get to the admin web-based interface [01:05] LaserJock: from the outside? Have you sshed to any remote boxes from an internal machine? [01:05] and don't svn commits log the IP? [01:05] I could [01:05] barring that, check the full headers of any e-mails sent to any mailing lists [01:06] but because it is dsl the IP switches sometimes, it isn't static [01:06] if you use a Linksys wrt54g AP, then it has a built-in dyndns client that you can configure [01:07] bbl [01:07] I just need to figure out a way to tell what it is from the inside computer. I guess I could have an inside computer email every so often and I could get it from there [01:14] [01:20] LaserJock: alot of those dyndns services will use the incoming ip [01:21] for the web request [01:26] Lathiat: so how would I minipulate those to have an Ubuntu box inside the network send the router's public ip to me outside? [01:27] LaserJock: you nat the ubuntu box out right? [01:29] umm, I think so [01:29] so [01:29] when you connect out [01:29] the dyndns server sees your real ip [01:29] so it just takes that? [01:30] so I can have it ssh my outside box? [01:30] I hate to have an open ssh connection all the time just to find the IP [01:30] yes [01:30] you install a dyndns client [01:31] and it updates a host like [01:31] laserjock.dyndns.org [01:31] with whatever your ip is currently [01:31] wonderful [01:31] based on what it conencts out as [01:31] which it will do automatically [01:31] trying to print from t-bird or firefox freeze [01:31] grrr === j^_ [n=j@e178029051.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] Lathiat: ohhhh, now I see. Thanks. === lifeless [n=robertc@static-147.29.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable143.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] siretart : did you have time to review my package? libfxruby1.4 [02:43] any motu who could review libfxruby1.4 ??? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] thierry: is it on revu? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CosmoDad [n=johndoe@dslb-084-056-243-089.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] Lathiat : yep [03:12] siretart: ping? [03:12] Lathiat : are you going to review it? [03:13] raphink, sup? revu stuff? [03:14] Mez: yep :) [03:15] Mez: siretart told me he would add me rights to commit the svn to REVU [03:15] but I don' tknow how to do so [03:15] I'm commited my changes to the svn as update 122 === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi [03:17] Mez: can't seem to find where it tells how to commit the svn hooks [03:17] maybe it's just because I'm a bit tired,but I don't see it :s [03:17] *shrugs* [03:17] I'm not too sure === Mez hasnt used svn in about 6 months [03:17] nm, I'll ask siretart tomorrow then :) [03:17] that's fine [03:18] I won't use it tonight anway I'm going to bed [03:18] :) [03:20] gn8 everybody [03:20] night [03:22] when are merges being put into universe so I can install them via apt? [03:24] CosmoDad: in 8 months [03:24] raphink|sleep: and which packages will be put into backports? [03:25] the ones you request, with a good reason to request them, and that : [03:25] * build from dapper package in breezy without a change [03:25] CosmoDad, best to ask me about backports [03:25] * have a good reason to be backported [03:25] Mez: talking about backports, what's the status for pureadmin ? [03:26] Mez: I'm using vpnc and been reading about some bugs it has some month ago [03:26] raphink: WIP [03:26] Mez: and I wondered if upgrades ever become available anywhere before dapper, possibly backports [03:26] WIP?? [03:26] Mez: what's that? [03:26] Work in progress [03:26] ohok [03:26] thanks [03:26] CosmoDad, nothing gone to mainling list about it [03:27] not that I mind about this package actually ;) [03:27] ok [03:27] I'm really gone now [03:27] bye [03:27] Mez: read about it on Ubuntus "bugzilla" [03:28] not a request fr backport [03:30] Mez: you mean it hasn't been requested in malone or malone is not there for requests? [03:31] I mean - we havent had any request for it to be bakported that I can find (all requests to ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com) [03:32] Mez: so is there any relation between MOTU and backports? [03:32] vaguely. [03:32] I mean why wouldn't merged packages be put into backport? [03:33] not unless requested, no [03:34] so if merged packages are only for the next release of ubuntu, why is merging done 8 month prior to releasing? [03:35] just wanna understand how things work... [03:35] because we hand-merge [03:35] and 16000 packages to hand-merge is no joke for a half-dozen people. [03:36] and it wasn't said that merging is done 8 months prior to release [03:36] ok.. [03:37] 'merging' is just a name for getting the newer versions from debian & incorporating our changes [03:37] which is done at the start of each release cycle [03:38] up until upstream version freeze time, when we take no new upstream versions in [03:38] I understand [03:39] can you sum up the major things you need to do when merging? [03:39] except for upgrading the version field.. [03:39] depends on the package [03:39] I mean what's the major differences between debian and ubuntu packages? [03:39] there is none [03:40] so what's an example for "our changes" that need to be "incorporated"? [03:41] differing build-dependencies, packaging differences, and so on [03:41] ok [03:43] I wonder why build-deps are different in debian and ubuntu, but I guess there's plenty of docs on your site that I should take a look at... [03:45] CosmoDad, because some things we've updated faster than debian- for example, python in ubuntu default is 2.4 - in debian, 2.3 [03:45] therefore we need dfferent build deps for ubuntu python stuff [03:46] that makes sense [03:46] but isn't ubuntu based on debian unstable on each release? [03:46] yes [03:47] and debian unstable is still behind in a number of areas [03:47] so you do additional upgrades on top of debian unstable? [03:48] yes - we focus on some stuff and bump it higher/faster than debian [03:51] so what will happen if I file a (valid) backport request for vpnc: will you use a merged/synced version or repeat the process or backporting for yourself? [03:51] we backport from dapper version to breezy [03:52] and what's the version of a package in dapper based on? [03:52] depends on the package [03:53] currently dapper version = debian version [03:53] debian sid version that is? [03:54] sid/etch === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb219-74-228-32.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.247.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-68-201-202-100.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-68-201-202-100.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-205.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrand1r [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.55.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.77.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:48] afternoon MOTUs :) [06:49] morning zakame :) [06:49] heya Gloubiboulga :) [06:58] hi zakame and Gloubiboulga [06:58] heya LaserJock :D [06:58] hi LaserJock :) [06:59] how's it going guys? [07:00] very well, i'm on holidays ;) [07:00] I'm blogging about ABT/Ph last week :) [07:01] hmm, I'm got back from a conference and am trying to get caught up and organized. Also I'm getting an Intel iMac tomorrow so I'm figuring out how to get ssh and vnc set up so I can access my Ubuntu box from it. [07:03] that shouldnt be complicted [07:03] yay! [07:03] yeah, I think I got it all figured out === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-205.d-ip.magma.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] hello MOTUs [07:43] heya marcin` long time no c [07:44] could someone help me with packaging some webapp? [07:44] I would like to set it up properly with webapps policy [07:45] but I'm not sure how should I configure webapp with apache... [07:45] currently I just got shortcut from /usr/share/webapp to /var/www/webapp and it is ok [07:45] but not with webapp policy [07:46] any suggestions how to configure this stuff? === glick [n=myob@cpe-24-193-247-3.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] hello? [07:46] hello glick [07:47] excuse me, quick question, if you delete a user throught the gnome user thingie, does it delete all traces of that user? including all files and such? no one in #ubuntu knows thought one of you might? [07:47] like ~/ ? [07:48] yeah and mailbox files and stuff like that [07:48] well it should work like deluser, right? [07:48] i dont know how deluser works :D [07:49] glick: "man deluser" is your friend ;-)i [07:49] hehe, well i could be wrong, but I don't think it does remove all traces of the user's files in /home [07:50] although --remove-all-files would probably get close === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] evening === glick [n=myob@cpe-24-193-247-3.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-23.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga is thinking about adding his name on the CommunityCouncilAgenda in "Member candidates" section [09:58] next CC is tomorrow, is it too late ? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl51B69C3F.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] hi people === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] hi phanatic [10:29] hi Tonio_ [10:29] hi :) [10:34] hey Gloubiboulga :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-162-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mattb [n=matt@203-173-160-153.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] tthanks for committing the svn siretart === mattb [n=matt@203-173-160-153.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:53] raphink: n/p [11:55] :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c141053.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] re all.... === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-162-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-116-203.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-72-146.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-130-211.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable143.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] anyone who could review my package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1589 , siretart? [01:09] thierry: can you provide me a url to the upstream tarball please? [01:13] thierry: better ask lucas, since he knows ruby a lot better than I do [01:14] thierry: please add a watch file === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl51B69DF2.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] hi people [01:15] I don't see where you generate the manpage [01:16] your -dev package is empty [01:16] either it's not necessary, or something wrong happened [01:17] your other package is also empty [01:17] have you checked your package before uploading ?! [01:18] Your note about ruby in the Description is useless. [01:18] add the homepage for libfxruby instead [01:18] and provide a real description (like what FOX is) === pappan [n=ppadman@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] and please explain why libfxruby1.4-dev is arch: any and not arch: all [01:20] thierry: you got all that, or should I copy/paste it to revu ? === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] lucas : yeah please since I don't have time to fix all that right now [01:35] done [01:35] :) thanks a lot [01:37] is there a UVF exception requests list in wiki? [01:37] buxy, ping [01:38] stratus: no, you have to read the ML archives [01:38] stratus: pong [01:39] lucas, np, i'm subscribed and i see the messages about UVF exceptions there. I just asked because i said about bzrtools 0.7 and dholbach was going to accept it, but nothing yet. It's important because bzrtools 0.6-2 is uninstallable [01:39] I think that the people reviewing exceptions are lagging behind [01:40] also, UVF exceptions are only processed once a week [01:41] lucas, hmm np. [01:41] lucas, what about DCT and all that? [01:42] quite stuck currently since I'm busy with real life stuff [01:42] but I hope to work on this next week === aitor [n=aitor@193.145.150.209] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] hi === zakame [n=zak@210.213.68.15] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] evening MOTUs === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] hi folks [01:58] hey sistpoty [01:58] hi Gloubiboulga [01:58] hi zakame & aitor too :) [01:58] lucas, oic [02:00] hi you too [02:00] :) [02:01] hi everybody [02:03] heya sistpoty :D [02:03] hi zakame, aitor, stratus :) [02:03] and hi Toadstool ;) [02:04] sistpoty, morning [02:06] sistpoty: about the get-orig-source target for dhcpv6-kame, should it download the whole tarball from ftp.kame.net or assume the tarball is already locally available ? [02:07] heya Gloubiboulga [02:07] Toadstool: it can download the whole tarball. you won't get around to call that really often ;) [02:07] Toadstool: you could also try to handle this with a watch file (not sure though, how much you can tweak there) [02:08] hum looks like it's really tricky with a watch file :) [02:08] heya Toadstool [02:08] he, can't say, haven't tried that yet... it's your choice ;) [02:09] hi zakame [02:09] hi zakame [02:11] zakame: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1579 please tell me what's wrong with the long descriptions (and which one(s)?) [02:11] sistpoty: do I have to add a dependency to wget somewhere in my debian/control if I choose the download target thing ? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.117.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] heya phanatic and Toadstool :D I see you're doing some REVU work :) [02:12] Toadstool: to my knowledge you don't need that, since get-orig-source is not called during the build process [02:12] ok [02:14] damn my dialup's so sucky tonight :(( [02:17] phanatic: lemme check [02:19] zakame: thanks [02:19] lucas: I just saw your comments to libfxruby... libfxruby and -dev must be arch:any, since the -dev contains (or should contain) the static library [02:20] lucas: and if upstream provides distinct sources, these should also be made distinct debian source packages... if libfox get's updated, it's a transition [02:23] ok, I didn't know that since the -dev pkg was empty [02:23] lucas: problem is that stuff under /usr/... are touched during build which is a nogo (and ftbfs for that reason) [02:23] couldn't we package libfxruby with a conflict to prevent installation of too new libfx verisons ? [02:24] lucas: I don't see the point in this... [02:24] no having several source packages for the same little library that hardly nobody will use [02:25] lucas: if libfox were updated with incompatible api, the way to go would be to create libfox1.x and have both libs around, with the new version conflicting the old one [02:25] yeah [02:25] lucas: then shlibs-depends should prevent the new lib from getting installed [02:25] but what about libfxruby ? === sistpoty looks === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] libfxruby could use a depend libfox >= 1.4 and conflict libfox >= 1.5 [02:27] lucas: libfxruby will have a dependency on the libfox version through shlibs:depend [02:27] +s [02:28] lucas: conflicts would be the wrong thing, since conflicts may only be used for packages wich contain the same files [02:30] sorry [02:30] X-Katie: Launchpad actually [02:30] what I meant was something like that: === Lathiat laughs [02:30] Depends: python (>= 2.4), python (<< 2.5), [02:30] anyway [02:31] the package is far from being ok [02:31] we can discuss this later [02:31] lucas: yes, it is... [02:31] lucas: and the dependencies should get filled in by shlibs:depends ;) [02:32] (there can be no libfox1.4-dev with a different api, since this wouldn't be libfox1.4-dev any longer) === TomaszD [n=tomaszd@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] s/different/incompatible/ === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] could comeone point me to the MOTU list? [02:34] *someone [02:34] TomaszD: what motu list do you have in mind? [02:34] the one with all the uvf exceptions listed [02:35] as in, a discussion list. [02:35] I don't really know how's it called in English. [02:35] TomaszD: uvf exceptions are handled by mail to ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com (lists.ubuntu.com -> ubuntu-motu list for web-interface) [02:35] it's not my native language. [02:35] oh thank you. [02:35] np === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] hey gang [02:46] hi jdub [02:46] is there a spot to announce/mention new ubuntu packages that should be adopted in debian? (i'll cc debian-devel) [02:47] jdub: you could file a wnpp bug and maybe announce to utnubu... stratus: any better idea? [02:48] or lucas? [02:48] sistpoty, RFP in WNPP [02:49] wnpp bugs still go to d-d, right? [02:49] translating, file a bug against wnpp package (RFP: packagename -- short description) and you could Cc: debian-devel, sure [02:50] yeah, i grok the mechanism, more interested in the current etiquette :) === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dslb-084-056-085-250.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] jdub, oh np. btw you should Cc: debian-devel. [02:50] yeah [02:50] give them something new to flame about [02:52] jdub, well it's a big community, there are people to flame, people to fix RC bugs, you know what i mean... [02:52] gotta spread the work around ;-) [02:52] =) [02:52] at least the DPL has delegated his flaming to someone else this year ;-) [02:53] jdub, if you want to avoid noise you can mail utnubu ML === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-162-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] jdub, i doubt he did, andrew just take it over [02:54] ;) [02:54] jdub, http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=30729 [02:55] do they accept/moderate random external mail? [02:55] jdub, i'm not sure you know but there are 9 guys (me, lucas and buxy included) back merging stuff from ubuntu to debian, the group is called utnubu in Debian. === buxy doesn't do much active merging but tries to setup the infrastructure for it [02:56] jdub, i don't know, buxy did you started mailing the list before subscribing? [02:56] only nomeata has the access === buxy could have the access via his alioth admins powers [02:57] buxy, can't you just check if it's a non-moderated list to non-members with your super cow powers? :-P [02:57] jdub: just send the mail and you'll know the answer, it will probably be moderaed and approved by Joachim Breitner [02:58] aka. nomeata [02:58] -maintainers or -discuss? [02:58] -discuss [02:59] -maintainers is just for the maintainer field. [02:59] ok [02:59] thanks! [02:59] np, you're welcome. [03:00] heya jdub ! [03:00] X-Debbugs-CC [03:00] (to be exact, though I don't think gmail supports direct email header setting) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-002-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] which begs the question, what packages in ubuntu could be moved up to debian? :) [03:06] mine! [03:08] hmm [03:08] I somehow knew you'd say that ;) [03:08] hrm [03:08] can i od this? [03:08] X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org [03:08] X-Debbugs-CC: utnubu-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org [03:08] [03:10] yeah I think, X-Debbugs-CC isn't really lists.d.o-specific iirc [03:11] (diziet says it hsould be one header, comma delimited) [03:11] ah [03:12] thanks dudes === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] zakame: what's your opinion then regarding nanoweb's descriptions? :) === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] phanatic: homepage links should look like this: [03:22] . [03:22] Homepage: http://nanoweb.si.kz/ [03:26] zakame: that's the only thing? if yes, then i'll upload a new version right now, fixing all the issues [03:27] phanatic: short description ought to start lowercase, and no articles (e.g., no A/An before) [03:28] zakame: ok, corrected [03:29] anything else maybe? [03:30] none that I can see now, builds nicely, good work :) === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa33.0.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] thanks, i'll upload then a corrected version [03:34] zakame: done. should appear any minute on revu ;) [03:34] rocking :D === sebest_ [n=sebest@86.71.122.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] hello, i've a segfault with NetworkManager, is there a way to have the symbol to generate a backtrace? [03:39] zakame: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1668 :) === zakame checks [03:41] thanks :) === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] siretart: ping === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-002-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] anyone of you knows a way to get the url of the latest upstream tarball from uscan? [04:09] phanatic: I just looked over nanoweb, just ask if you have questions about my comments === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:10] AM_SANITY_CHECK is quite obsolete to use, right? [04:10] raphink: perhaps with --report? or --verbose? [04:11] sistpoty: that doesn't give the url [04:11] :( [04:12] -- Found the following matching hrefs: [04:12] knmap-1.0.tar.bz2 [04:12] doen't give the whole url [04:12] for gnome users : http://listengnome.free.fr/index.php?nom_page=home [04:12] very knew and ressembles really to amarok, nice application ;) [04:12] sistpoty: thanks with reviewing. can i /msg you with my questions? [04:13] s/with/for [04:13] phanatic: you can also just ask here, but you can /msg as well if you want [04:13] raphink: --dehs [04:14] --dehs ? [04:14] ah thanks much sistpoty :) [04:14] raphink: will give you xml-output *with* location of tarball :) (use with --report) [04:14] ;) [04:14] np [04:14] yes I saw that :) [04:15] that's good :) [04:15] Tonio_, and .deb packages are available :) [04:16] Gloubiboulga: yes, but I didn't check if they are valid.... [04:17] anyway, I'm not a gnome user, but according to the screenshots, it seems missing that in universe would be a pain [04:17] Tonio_, the package is a little ugly :/ === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] Gloubiboulga: that's always what happens when developpers are packaging :) [04:18] :) [04:18] Gloubiboulga: package it and come with it tomorrow at the CC ;) [04:19] Tonio_, why should he come with a package to the CC = [04:19] why not ;) [04:19] ? [04:19] the CC isnt intrested in packages [04:19] ogra: just a joke between us, that was not a "real advice" [04:19] ogra, I try to become an ubuntu member [04:20] ah, k, *g* [04:22] of course the debian/ dir is in the tarball... [04:23] I'd have been surprised if it wasn't in [04:23] Gloubiboulga: did you try a lintian on it ? [04:23] Tonio_, yes [04:23] a lot of files are in stanged places [04:23] how many output pages ? ^^ [04:23] like images in /usr/lib ? [04:24] exactly [04:24] I already saw that [04:24] lintian doesn't like ;) [04:24] nop :) [04:24] is scons the build system ? [04:25] Gloubiboulga: what you should do is probably taking the sources and build it from scratch [04:25] it's a python app [04:25] and eventually send the package to upstream...... [04:25] Gloubiboulga: and ? [04:26] I try to see with what it's built [04:26] scons and I are not good friends ;) [04:26] scons isn't friend with any packager on earth I think ;) [04:27] but scons is more to replace make than a buld system for python apps.... [04:27] yep [04:27] it's not used here I think [04:27] I have to go, I'll have a closer look later === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_Aw [04:28] argh, messages.pot at the root of tarball.... [04:28] I've yet to see scons-based pkgs [04:29] zakame: I already tried several times, what a pain......... [04:32] gaah [04:34] anyhowm gn8 all! [04:34] phanatic: I'll approve tomorrow once sistpoty 's is fixed :D [04:34] gn8 zakame [04:35] zakame, sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1669 [04:35] fixed ;) [04:35] zakame: don't let you sleep :D === Gloubi_Aw is now known as Gloubiboulga === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo_cobuntu [n=user@dslc-213-023-162-006.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sarita [n=naveen7s@203.122.42.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] hi === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] sistpoty: are you here ? [05:43] or anyone else who has some time to check a package :) === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_Aw === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] Toadstool: sorry, was afk... I'll take a look at your package later ;) [06:12] no prob' :) [06:12] Riddell: ping [06:12] apachelogger: hmm? [06:12] ah, apachelogger is becoming a MOTU, excellent :) [06:13] well, help kubuntu where I can :-) [06:13] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1662 last comment === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-3679.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] Riddell: so shell I place them in /usr/lib/kde3/? [06:19] /usr/lib/kde3/ is for dynamically loadable plugins [06:20] apachelogger: why build-dep on dh-buildinfo? [06:21] Riddell: hm, good question, not needed? [06:21] debian/rules has dh_buildinfo in it [06:21] but why use that is the next question === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] Riddell: maybe I add them for some test to get rid of the missing shlibs file, though I really can't remember [06:24] rm -r debug/config.log debug/config.status [06:24] rm: cannot remove `debug/config.log': No such file or directory [06:24] rm: cannot remove `debug/config.status': No such file or directory [06:24] breakage [06:25] I'm currently talking to the author to include a clean rule for those files [06:25] apachelogger: hmm yes, it should be in /usr/lib/kde3/ [06:25] all other kicker applets are [06:26] how to get it there? [06:30] kde_module_LTLIBRARIES = ktimemon_panelapplet.la [06:30] something like that === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-3679.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] apachelogger: or maybe DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS := --libdir=/usr/lib/kde3 [06:39] ah that was the the think I was searching for ... define the whole cflag is lame ;-) [06:39] thx Riddell, sistpoty [06:39] np [06:40] fixing Makefile.am is better [06:45] Riddell: isn't that meant for .in? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-002-117.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] apachelogger: for Makefile.am... and you should report this to upstream [06:47] ok :-) === ptolo [n=senko@83-131-91-15.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] apachelogger: no, Makefile.in is automatically made [06:49] when running make -f Makefile.cvs (or admin/Makefile.common) [06:49] yup, pointed that out the other day === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] Anyone try installing SELinux on Dapper yet? [06:54] Kyral, ajmitch i guess:) [06:55] lol [06:55] I only ask because I keep seeing on boot "SELinux Failed, selinux/ doesn't exist" [06:58] Kyral: you watch the boot messages? ;-) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-33-160.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-3679.lns1-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] siretart: ping === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-244-232.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] siretart: I've just commited a new version of REVU-tools, using uscan to get the upstream tarball when there is a debian/watch [07:44] siretart: uscan requires the libwww-perl package to work though, so wondering if you would mind having it installed on tiber === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-130-211.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] raphink: what does REVU-tools have in it? [07:47] LaserJock: wait a min I'll show you [07:47] :) [07:50] LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/revu-tools/Changelog [07:50] this is latest changelog from tonight's version [07:50] :) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-173.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] raphink: hmm, interesting. [07:52] :) [07:52] I'm having lots of fun [07:52] lol [07:52] raphink: is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU/REVU-Tools updated === xerxas [n=xerxas@58.100.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] with yesterdays version, yes [07:52] not with tonight's [07:53] ok [07:53] hi there [07:53] LaserJock: if you have any comment of suggestion :) [07:53] slomo_, u there ? [07:53] so it's just for REVU reviewers, right? [07:53] LaserJock: no [07:53] xerxas: yes [07:53] I intend to make it tiber-independant [07:53] and make a debian package from it [07:54] I used it on my own machine today to test it [07:54] raphink: oh, ok. sounds cool [07:54] hi slomo_ [07:54] it worked fine [07:54] I just tested you're banshee package [07:54] is it for breezy ? [07:54] I'm on dapper but it recommands gstreamer 0.8 [07:55] xerxas: nope... dapper... banshee isn't completly ported to 0.10 yet and won't be for dapper [07:55] ok [07:56] slomo_, it's doesn't read the music on an itunes share [07:56] it eventually crashes when starting song or browsing artists [07:57] and it displays my mt-daapd share but nothing in there [07:57] hm interesting... let me test it here :) one moment please === slomo_ tests rb->banshee, banshee->banshee [07:57] slomo_, non problem [07:58] I wanted to know ig you're aware of this [07:58] i'll try to track those bugs [07:58] slomo_, got to go eat [07:59] but I have some message on the console [07:59] will tell you later [07:59] (or not interested in this ? ) === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] xerxas: well, it's even worse for me :) when something is shared in the network banshee segfaults at startup... *sigh* === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robust [n=robust@c-4e7472d5.01-167-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] yeah :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.55.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/debs/revu-tools_0.3.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb if you ever want to test [08:23] k [08:23] I miss the manpages still [08:23] but it works, just tested it on my box [08:23] I just had to change `pbuilder` to `sudo pbuilder` for the PBUILDERNAME variable in /usr/bin/revu-build [08:24] since I have no set sudo rights for pbuilder on my machine [08:24] and now I'll take a break from the screen :) === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-1085.wfd85a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] thanks much siretart you rock :) [08:41] :) [08:41] siretart: how do you like my latest version? [08:43] raphink: I didn't look at it yet, I'm at my regulars table in the pub [08:43] oh ok :) [08:43] great :) [08:43] raphink: the diff looked fine, and I trust that you checked that it won't break things :) === theCore [n=alexandr@Toronto-HSE-ppp3776083.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] siretart: well basically 0.3 uses uscan to get the upstream tarball and check that no new upstream version is available [08:45] raphink: I've seen that you want to package those tools in 'motu-tools' perhaps we should remove them from revu svn and install that motu-tools package on tiber instead [08:45] hmm [08:45] I didn't talk aobut motu-tools [08:45] I installed libwww-perl as well, btw [08:45] just a guess [08:45] yes I saw that siretart, thanks [08:45] s/guess/thought/ [08:46] libwww-perl is normally installed by devscripts though [08:46] siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/~raphink/debs/revu-tools_0.3.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb [08:46] first deb I made tonight [08:46] tiber-independant [08:46] :) [08:46] :) [08:46] shall I install that now, or is it still in development? [08:47] you can try it [08:47] it won't break anything [08:47] it just generates files in the current folder [08:47] report files [08:47] and uses pbuilder only to build [08:47] so no risk [08:47] :) [08:49] any known issues currently with dapper/pbuilder? [08:49] I get: vim: Depends: vim-runtime (= 1:6.4-006+2ubuntu1) but it is not installed [08:49] when doing pbuilder creatr [08:49] no issue with dapper pbuilder today [08:49] I updated one an hour ago or so [08:49] hmm, odd [08:49] let's take a breezy detour then [08:50] Seveas, its broken .. [08:50] Seveas: this happens because vim-runtime is not in main yet, only in universe [08:50] Seveas, vim-runtime isnt promoted to main [08:50] right [08:50] and that of course only happens on fresh pbuilders [08:50] build a breezy pbuilder and update it [08:51] working on it already :) [08:51] :) [08:51] siretart: if you test the package on your own machine, you might want to set PBUILDERNAME in /usr/bin/revu-build to use "sudo pbuilder" or whatever you need to use [08:51] siretart: otherwise it's all well set [08:51] ok I'm off to eat [08:51] :) === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-173.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] is there a place to check debian changelogs other than packages.debian.org? [08:54] LaserJock: for ubuntu it's changelogs.ubuntu.com [08:55] for debian there doesn't seem to be such a place [08:55] LaserJock: http://pdo.debian.net/ is available while packages.d.o is down [08:55] hrm, actually it looks like the changelogs aren't accessible from there, though [09:01] slomo, you have an idea of what's happening ? [09:01] xerxas: not really... i'll debug next weekend :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.55.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] slomo, ok [09:04] needs some help maybe ? [09:04] I'm not really available at week ends ... [09:04] packages.debian.org has been down for quite a while, I wonder how long it is going to take to get it up again? [09:04] xerxas: not yet :) but i'll ask you when i need some help... thanks :) [09:05] slomo, you're using mt-daapd ? I saw some patches on your site === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:06] xerxas: nope, currently not... [09:06] ok [09:07] have you ever used the cvs version ? [09:07] I'm have made some things do the debian directory , I have a package [09:07] but it doesn't work :) [09:08] i'm still waiting for the avahi support :) i made a patch but the author wanted to do his own for some reason... and nothing happened yet [09:09] ok ok [09:09] I saw you're avahi patch and the musepack also === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robust [n=robust@c-4e7472d5.01-167-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl51B69D52.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] hi people === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] man alive its windy out [09:36] Kyral: here it's -13 celsius degrees === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] we had -28C yesterday :-) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:42] torkel: that's very cold man... [09:43] heh === Kyral just cancelled his Cedega subscription [09:46] grr, I have the box with my new Intel iMac sitting right next to me but my boss won't let me open it until the end of the day :( [09:46] lol [09:47] he knows me too well [09:47] Is that Breezy PPC CD burning a hole in your pocket :P [09:48] :) [09:48] I don't get to use Ubuntu on this machine :( === Kyral decides to join the FSF as an Associate Memebr [09:50] Kyral: the intel macs are no ppc... and the x86 version doesn't work currently on that machines afaik [09:50] ah [09:50] yeah, they don't have BIOS's and the graphics cards aren't supported [09:50] but luckily I will be able to ssh and vnc to my Ubuntu box at home === thegladiator [n=thegladi@202.83.62.63] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] Kyral: are you busy? would you mind doing some merges/syncs for MOTUScience? [09:52] uhh [09:53] I'll try... [09:55] well it's not a big deal but there are about 37 packages that can be synced/merged without breaking UVF so there isn't really a reason not to === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Lmnar"] [09:59] okay [09:59] Hmm [09:59] Seems I gained a new Email Addy [10:00] Kyral: the list is at http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/science_merge.txt === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] ..LJ [10:08] EasyChem is the same in Dapper Universe as it is in Debian Sid === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:10] It's revision # is just 1 === Kyral sighs [10:10] I'll request later [10:10] I gotta meet someone for Dinner === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N839P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] Kyral: yeah, I know. There are a couple like that. We should just be able to ask for syncs [10:18] Kyral: I'm just trying to keep track so I can get the syncs done in batches === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] hi dolson [10:19] hi [10:19] ardour question? [10:19] yea [10:19] do did it build in Dapper? [10:19] no [10:19] it goes further in Breezy actually [10:20] but with the Dapper source? [10:20] I am trying to backport ardour from Dapper to breezy. I changed the jack lib to the 0.80 version and then ran debuild -us -uc and it compiles stuff for several minutes and then conks out with some errors [10:21] can you paste the errors to a pastebin? [10:21] trying to rebuild it under Dapper with no changes to the control file it fails in under a minute [10:21] backports should be done in a pbuilder. === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable143.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] crimsun, I know :D [10:22] who's daemon@poleboy.de ? he reviewed my package and I'd like to talk to him [10:22] thierry: sistpoty [10:22] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1662 is it really needed to correct the fsf address? [10:22] LaserJock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8128 [10:22] kinda annoying work [10:22] apacheLAGger: yes, the FSF address must be correct [10:23] crimsun: this isn't an official backport or anything, I'm just trying to figure things out. I don't know anything about pbuilder at this time, but I'd be glad to learn [10:23] crimsun: any script suggestios or something? [10:23] apacheLAGger: there are various bugs in BTS about it; you could do a sed s/foo/bar/ [10:23] ah, yeah -- sed --- thx :) [10:24] dolson: pbuilder would help you out. check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [10:25] alright, I will read that now.. I read stuff on the net about rebuilding debs and the stuff I read didn't mention it, so unfortunately I learned the wrong method [10:25] dolson: that is not to say that it will make the problems go away, but it is a much cleaner environment to diagnos problems :-) === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] k, I'll try it now and see what happens. [10:33] dolson: for what it is worth, the ardour source didn't build in my dapper pbuilder [10:33] :\ [10:35] it shouldn't, there are API changes === vuntz_ [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] so can it be done somehow? === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] yes === cyberserver [n=joao@bl6-24-107.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] Hu people. I've apt-get dist-upgraded dapper right now and I'm getting a kernel panic. Anyone faced similar problem? I think my initrd file got currupted.. or there is something wrong with the latest kernel packages.. [10:56] 14.19 works fine on i686 [10:57] Hmmm... strange.. [10:57] ... I am notisting that I have linux-image-2.6.15-14-686 package installed... [10:57] ... but my grub menu only shows linux-image-2.6.15-13-686 [10:58] The package hasn't updated the grub entries?!? [10:58] sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-14-686 [10:59] haaaa!!! Got it :-p "Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... sed: couldn't write 75 items to stdout: No space left on device" [11:00] Thanks crimsun ! :-p === greenpenguin13 [n=greenpen@user-4188.lns2-c10.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] anyone looking for an easy bugfix? bug 30694 [11:01] malone bug 30694 in xmms "unfriendly menu entry for XMMS" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30694 [11:02] that's not very easy for most of us, seeing how most of us don't have main privs ;) [11:02] gah [11:03] lol [11:03] i just assumed it would be in universe [11:03] sorry === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has left #ubuntu-motu ["*leaves] === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] People, do you think we can purge all old "half-removed" packages? I do an "dpkg -l | grep rc" and I'll see quite some packages in "rc" state... xorg-common (6.8.2-77) , for instance... [11:12] or is this a risky thing to do? [11:12] it's not risky at all [11:13] sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l |grep ^rc |awk '{ print $2 }') === vuntz__ [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] alright, I think I'm too stupid to do this [11:15] I'd be happy to help you with it later, but I'm currently knee deep in $stuff [11:16] that would be great! I don't have a job right now, so I'll be here :/ [11:16] I got pbuilder going and all that, and I think I understand how it works, so that's a step forward [11:16] once you have pbuilder configured, it's not too bad [11:17] yeah, it's all done but it fails at the same point as when I used debuild [11:19] Has anybody tried to create a dapper pbuilder environment recently and have it fail on a package dependancy problem with vim-runtime when it is trying to bootstrap/update? If so, how do I fix that? === jahor [n=jahor@62.240.165.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] TheMuso: dist-upgrade from within a Breezy pbuilder [11:21] um ok. This happens when I am trying to create a pbuilder environment... [11:21] ah yep I get it. [11:21] Well, I'm booting into my new kernel.... === tiCo89 [i=mario@server01.marioiseli.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] ...see you soon.. I hope :-p [11:27] is it true that ubuntu still searchs developers? [11:27] tiCo89: what do you mean? [11:27] i mean what i said... are you still searching developers? [11:28] real, registered developers... [11:29] please quantify that. [11:29] we're (as MOTU) continually seeking help [11:30] if you mean core developers, you'll need to see the Ubuntu and Canonical Web sites [11:30] and is it possible to get a developer? somebody which may upload packages (not sponsored)... [11:31] what do you mean? [11:31] oh god... [11:31] tiCo89: you mean Ubuntu is looking for developers [11:31] azeem: yes... [11:31] the MOTU can upload to Universe but you have to be a core dev to upload to Main [11:32] aha, and is it possible to get a motu? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-33-160.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] sure, lots of us are here [11:32] or is it like in debian where you wait lots of years... [11:32] I think tiCo89 wants to become a MOTU [11:32] yes [11:32] ...yeah, I think that's what you mean [11:32] i'm already a debian maintainer and have soe expirience [11:33] and i'd like to help also ubuntu [11:33] tiCo89: then you just need to spend a few months and demonstrate solid teamwork and dedication to Ubuntu (and Debian) [11:33] cf. StevenK, who became a MOTU rather quickly [11:34] okey... [11:34] siretart: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1332 [11:34] have you to search here always a sponsor too? [11:34] siretart: can you nuke that please ? (see my last comment) === cyberserver [n=joao@bl6-24-107.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] New kernel is woking fine :-) [11:34] tiCo89: until you become a member of the Launchpad ubuntu-dev team, yes [11:34] :) [11:35] crimsun: what do you think? how long does this "NM"-process need? [11:35] and you should become an Ubuntu Member first, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember/ has details [11:35] tiCo89: at least a couple months [11:35] tiCo89: the NM process in Debian can last years, at least months [11:35] tiCo89: it's faster to be an Ubuntu dev, for sure :) [11:35] raphink: yes i know it, i'm in NM of debian =) [11:36] tiCo89: ok [11:36] tiCo89: in Ubuntu, if you do a good job, you can be a dev in a matter of, say, 2 months :) [11:38] funny ;-) [11:39] why funny? === tiCo89 has already distributed a lot of cds in school and at work, helped a lot of user in linux user groups to fix problems and have 9 packages in the debian archive [11:39] and my gpg key is signed from 3 DDs [11:40] so i register soon as a newmember =) [11:40] hmmm [11:40] how long have you been in Ubuntu tiCo89 ? [11:40] it's funny to get a developer in 2 months... [11:40] hmmm, since warty... [11:40] ok [11:41] did you get your packages in Ubuntu? [11:41] :) [11:42] en example: packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/ngircd [11:42] mhm [11:42] :) [11:42] hmmm === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:44] tiCo89: is your work for ubuntu documented on your wiki page? [11:44] I can't find your wiki page [11:44] not yet... [11:44] i do it tomorrow at work [11:44] and register as a member.. === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] when do you plan on applying? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-116-203.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] raphink: apply for what? membership? tomorrow... [11:45] oh ok [11:46] what's the age of the youngest motu? :-S [11:47] tiCo89: no idea [11:47] tiCo89: got no idea, but i'd be one of the youngest on this channel i suspect [11:47] I hope jpatrick can be one soon , and he's 14 now [11:47] Hobbsee: how old are you, if you don't mind me asking? [11:48] hmm okey, fine, so i'm not the youngest with 16 =) [11:48] in the linux user groups i'm always the youngest :-( [11:48] raphink: 17 [11:48] ok [11:48] tiCo89: ah, you win the honour then :P [11:48] I feel like a gwanpa then [11:48] ;) [11:48] Hobbsee: but you're a girl, so he should leave it to you :) [11:48] Hobbsee: i have already honour with my speeches ;-) [11:49] yeah, well I'm 8. j/k . my wife probably would say that I am though ;-) [11:49] raphink: good point [11:49] LaserJock: *smile* [11:49] Hmm [11:50] 8 to the power of 2? :) [11:50] can I resize a Reiser3 FS live? [11:50] lol [11:50] tiCo89: not quite that old [11:50] raphink, Riddell: time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1673 ? .... the author and I made some adaptions to get a better deb with less lines in debian dir :) [11:50] LaserJock: oh really? [11:50] I can't remember lol [11:50] I think I'm about as old as raphink [11:51] LaserJock: really? [11:51] I'm not married I'ma fraid :( [11:51] raphink: well, spill the beans, how old are you? [11:51] apachelogger: it would be nice if you added a debian/watch file [11:51] LaserJock: 23 [11:51] you? [11:52] raphink: yep, I'm your senior. I just turned 24 a few months ago [11:52] apachelogger: for now, do you have the url to the upstream tarball? [11:52] http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29552 [11:52] but I feel old. I'm almost done with my PhD and I've been married for 4 1/2 years [11:52] thanks [11:53] apachelogger: you know how to make debian/watch? [11:53] I even don't knwo what it is supposed to do :| [11:53] apachelogger: automatize the update of the package [11:53] wait a min apachelogger I'll show you [11:54] k === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-116-203.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] LaserJock : what's PhD ? physic science diploma? === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-130-211.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] LaserJock : I'm french-canadian so name changes here [11:55] thierry: Doctorate of Philosophy, the general doctorate [11:55] un doctorat de sciences [11:55] ah [11:55] LaserJock : wow great [11:55] it is general. mine will be in Physical Chemistry [11:55] ok [11:56] apachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/nanoweb-0602061030/nanoweb-2.2.7/debian/watch [11:56] this is a simple - yet efficient - one [11:57] so version = file version ... and path in regular, that's it? [11:57] apachelogger: version=3 now [11:57] it's the debian/watch version [11:57] use 3 [11:58] yeah, that's what I meant :-) [11:58] the path is the path to the file, as regexpr for perl [11:58] (.*) being used as version number [11:58] so get where the file is on he upstream website [11:58] it's better [11:59] apachelogger: once you have a debian/watch, you can use uscan to uupdate your package [11:59] and I can use it to review it, too :) === ealden_ [n=ealden@203.76.213.166] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=Harald@N839P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu