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| RazaMetaL | hi | 03:01 |
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| RazaMetaL | can you help me with some ltsp on ubuntu? | 03:02 |
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| mhz | RazaMetaL: hi | 03:13 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: shoot | 03:13 |
| RazaMetaL | mhz, thnkz ... :) | 03:14 |
| RazaMetaL | mhz, i need to enable localmedia support | 03:14 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: ooooohhh | 03:14 |
| mhz | by local, you mean clients? | 03:14 |
| RazaMetaL | yes | 03:14 |
| RazaMetaL | localmedia in the clients | 03:14 |
| mhz | Are you suing Breezy or Dapper? | 03:14 |
| mhz | using | 03:14 |
| RazaMetaL | breezy | 03:15 |
| RazaMetaL | http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia#Scripts | 03:15 |
| RazaMetaL | if you use GDM: | 03:15 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: then it doesn't work, afaik | 03:15 |
| RazaMetaL | /usr/local/bin/LDA-setup.sh goes into line 3 of /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default | 03:15 |
| RazaMetaL | /usr/local/bin/LDA-shutdown.sh goes into line 3 of /etc/X11/gdm/PostSession/Default | 03:16 |
| === mhz checking again, but he remembers localmedia is one of the issues for breezy | ||
| RazaMetaL | I need to upgrade to Dapper ? | 03:16 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: localmedia is under development for dapper | 03:16 |
| mhz | current status is unknown to me | 03:17 |
| RazaMetaL | :S | 03:17 |
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| mhz | RazaMetaL: gimme a sec | 03:17 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: alive? | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | yeah but quite busy | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | whats up | 03:17 |
| jsgotangco | ? | 03:17 |
| mhz | is localmedia issue solved for dapper? | 03:17 |
| mhz | was there a workaround for breezy? | 03:18 |
| jsgotangco | pmount? | 03:18 |
| mhz | localmedia = on clients side | 03:18 |
| jsgotangco | not sure | 03:18 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: okis, then you confimr my thoughts, thx | 03:19 |
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| RazaMetaL | :( | 03:19 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: nope, not solved yet but under development | 03:19 |
| mhz | for dapper | 03:19 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: yes, I know how you feel | 03:19 |
| mhz | but look at from this perspective... | 03:20 |
| mhz | Breezy is verion 1 of Edubuntu, Dapper #2 | 03:20 |
| mhz | and in only 2 versions (releasing every 6 month period) issues are taking good care of :D | 03:20 |
| RazaMetaL | i'm happy now with breezy and ltsp :) | 03:21 |
| mhz | hehehe | 03:21 |
| mhz | ogra is doing a terrific job | 03:21 |
| mhz | trying to make everyone happy | 03:21 |
| RazaMetaL | coul be better if the clients can support the localmedia | 03:21 |
| mhz | of course | 03:21 |
| mhz | and they will | 03:22 |
| mhz | Dapper is scheduled for April | 03:22 |
| RazaMetaL | whats happens if i start the LDA-setup.sh ? | 03:22 |
| mhz | i have not tested it yet | 03:22 |
| RazaMetaL | the script will be running in the client side of server side ? | 03:22 |
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| mhz | RazaMetaL: afaik, LTSP is about running all the stuff in server side, forwarding x via ssh | 03:23 |
| RazaMetaL | ahh.... is clear now | 03:23 |
| mhz | All clients need is processor, little ram and a NIC | 03:24 |
| cliebow | mhz: yes it is..ubuntu forwards xover ssh..traditional does a simle x connection | 03:24 |
| mhz | cliebow: thx for confirming that at this late hours for my head | 03:25 |
| cliebow | mon plaisir,mon ami! | 03:25 |
| RazaMetaL | mhz, i'm reading https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ThinClientLocalDevices | 03:31 |
| RazaMetaL | :) | 03:31 |
| === mhz is reading too | ||
| mhz | cliebow: je ne se parle francais, at all :D | 03:31 |
| mhz | RazaMetaL: oooh, yes, I thought you knew... Edubuntu uses a LTSP modification, not standard ltsp | 03:32 |
| mhz | LTSP 4.2 (i guess) will use Edubuntu innovations | 03:33 |
| RazaMetaL | :S | 03:33 |
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| alejandro | alejandro@voyager:~/Desktop$ sudo ltsp-build-client | 11:07 |
| alejandro | I: Retrieving Release | 11:07 |
| alejandro | E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release | 11:07 |
| alejandro | hmm, why ltsp-build-client is not working here? | 11:07 |
| ogra | try with another mirror | 11:08 |
| ogra | sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 11:08 |
| ogra | or | 11:08 |
| ogra | mount cdrom && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom | 11:09 |
| ogra | the us mirror is known to have issues from time to time | 11:09 |
| ogra | (its changed to archive.ubuntu.com in dapper) | 11:09 |
| alejandro | yes, i tested with another mirrors, but the same problem. | 11:10 |
| alejandro | it's odd, because I can see the release file in the web browser. | 11:12 |
| ogra | works fine here ... | 11:13 |
| ogra | at least with the first command i gave you above ... | 11:13 |
| alejandro | alejandro@voyager:/$ sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 11:16 |
| alejandro | I: Retrieving Release | 11:16 |
| alejandro | E: Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release | 11:16 |
| alejandro | hm. | 11:16 |
| ogra | your network setup is fine on this machine ? | 11:16 |
| ogra | can you do: | 11:17 |
| ogra | wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release | 11:17 |
| alejandro | yes, I downloaded with wget. | 11:17 |
| ogra | thats pretty strange ... | 11:18 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 11:19 |
| ogra | if you run a normal apt-get update on the system that works as well ? (note that ltsp-build-client does exactly this) | 11:20 |
| alejandro | sudo debootstrap breezy /opt/ltsp/i386/ archive.ubuntu.com | 11:21 |
| alejandro | the same trying to make a debootstrap | 11:21 |
| alejandro | yes, apt-get update works fine. | 11:22 |
| alejandro | magic! :) | 11:22 |
| ogra | that cant work | 11:22 |
| ogra | sudo debootstrap breezy /opt/ltsp/i386/ archive.ubuntu.com | 11:23 |
| ogra | it clearly wont get any file | 11:23 |
| ogra | you need archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 11:23 |
| alejandro | yes, i tried both | 11:26 |
| alejandro | ;( | 11:26 |
| ogra | any cdrom handy to try with a cd as mirror ? | 11:27 |
| alejandro | no, i will try to download it again. | 11:35 |
| dsaa[away] | ogra: may i know if there's a solution to the serial keyboard and serial mouse non-detection in edubuntu breezy? | 11:36 |
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| ogra | dsaa[away] , not for thin clients, no, you could try a little sed magic in the ltsp-client-setup initscript though ... | 11:41 |
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| dsaa[away] | ogra: for default desktops only, i'm not using ltsp yet. | 11:44 |
| ogra | hmm, well, now that i think about it ... you could install the "joystick" package in the client chroot and write an initscript that runs inputattach with the right parameters, that might be easier | 11:44 |
| ogra | ah, k | 11:44 |
| ogra | just install joystick and make sure inputattach gets started before gdm ... | 11:45 |
| ogra | i.e. you could add it to the bootmisc.sh script ... | 11:45 |
| dsaa[away] | ogra: thanks for the clue. | 11:47 |
| ogra | youre welcome :) | 11:47 |
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| eds0n | Hey, just wondering.. I've just set up an edubuntu server, and I'm wondering how to add users so you can login through the clients? I can't login :/ | 12:25 |
| ogra | eds0n, every user that can log in locally on the server is also able to log in through a client ... | 12:25 |
| eds0n | ogra: so you mean I just add users the regular way, and that's it? | 12:26 |
| ogra | that should be it, yes ... | 12:27 |
| eds0n | ogra: cause I tried but it didn't work :/ Must be something else then | 12:27 |
| eds0n | ogra: ok, I'll check it out more thoroughly then | 12:27 |
| ogra | did you try with your admin user ? | 12:27 |
| eds0n | yep | 12:28 |
| eds0n | doesn't login | 12:28 |
| ogra | note that if you changed the ip of the interface the thin clients are connected to after installation you must run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys to make the ssh server aware of the change ... | 12:28 |
| ogra | try that and try to log in again | 12:28 |
| eds0n | ogra: SSH? | 12:29 |
| eds0n | ogra: I'm just talking about logging in through the thin-clients. Didn't know that was through SSH | 12:30 |
| eds0n | ahh. it worked! Thanks :D | 12:30 |
| ogra | the edubuntu ltsp uses ssh tunnels | 12:30 |
| eds0n | ogra: cool, thanks man | 12:30 |
| ogra | (no unsafe X forwarding ;) ) | 12:30 |
| ogra | :) | 12:30 |
| ogra | glad to help :) | 12:30 |
| eds0n | ogra: thanks again, now I can start the experiment :) | 12:34 |
| ogra | :) | 12:38 |
| ogra | come back if you got more questions ;) | 12:38 |
| eds0n | well, we're basically doing a performance experiment, so we have to find out what tools to use to measure performance. Any ideas? | 12:43 |
| ogra | hmm ... | 12:43 |
| dsaa[away] | ogra: may i know what channel the community council meeting is conducted in the IRC? | 12:46 |
| spacey | #ubuntu-meeting | 12:46 |
| ogra | #ubuntu-meeting, as all meetings we have :) | 12:46 |
| spacey | all meetings | 12:46 |
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| dsaa[away] | ogra: thanks again | 12:48 |
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| cliebow | ogra: with last weeks dapper iso.can not find suitable kernel..on Dell laptop,,any hunts? | 01:11 |
| ogra | a dily build ? | 01:12 |
| ogra | *daily | 01:12 |
| ogra | (note that the last tested one was flight 3, which should be fine) | 01:12 |
| cliebow | wel just an iso so not too sure.ill look up fklight three see if it is what i have | 01:13 |
| ogra | we were all in london for the distro hacking sprint, so nobody had time to check the dailies | 01:13 |
| cliebow | ill just give another try.. | 01:13 |
| mhz | ogra: hi. paolob was here last night and sent this message to you "the lease reduction has to be done in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.con and not in /etc/dhcp/" | 01:13 |
| ogra | mhz, yup, i know, my mistake ... | 01:14 |
| mhz | oh, no mistake, just a little trip :) | 01:14 |
| cliebow | mhz: i type far better in french than in English 8~) | 01:15 |
| === mhz remembers very clearly he had also mentioned that to paolob 3 weeks ago or so | ||
| cliebow | im just a downeaster from Maine | 01:15 |
| mhz | cliebow: ok, mon amie | 01:15 |
| cliebow | 8~) | 01:16 |
| mhz | cliebow: no matter what lang. I type in, I always make typos :D | 01:18 |
| cliebow | me too..bad keyboard it m ust be | 01:18 |
| cliebow | like yoda i also talk sometimes | 01:19 |
| mhz | nah... bad naughty fingers ;p | 01:19 |
| cliebow | 8~)..booking it for school..later.. | 01:19 |
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| spacey | i miss k8 kernel on ubuntu 32bit | 03:04 |
| spacey | ;( | 03:04 |
| ogra | err... k8 on 32bit ?? | 03:08 |
| spacey | yeah | 03:08 |
| spacey | why not | 03:08 |
| ogra | because k8 is compiled to make full use of the 64bit registers of the CPU ... | 03:09 |
| ogra | it cant work reliable in 32bit | 03:09 |
| spacey | hmm | 03:09 |
| spacey | will k7 work? | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | ?? | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | a k8 kernel works fine on 32bit | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | spaceyk7 is ok | 03:10 |
| spacey | many valid reasons to run i386 on an amd64 cpu | 03:10 |
| spacey | at least | 03:10 |
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| spacey | just wondering which kernel is most ideal in this case | 03:11 |
| spacey | i'll give k7 a try | 03:11 |
| Yagisan | spacey k7 works. k8 (32bit kernel) IIRC is similar to the pentium 4 optimised kernels | 03:14 |
| ogra | Yagisan, there is no k8 32bit kernel in ubuntu | 03:15 |
| spacey | Yagisan: so which kernel would fit best? :P | 03:15 |
| Yagisan | ogra: pity. the 0.0000000005% speedup ;) | 03:15 |
| Yagisan | spacey Ideally a rool-your-own, but out of the box - k7 | 03:16 |
| ogra | heh | 03:16 |
| spacey | Yagisan: xD | 03:17 |
| ogra | it'd rather be intresting to have the fan and cputmp modules working ... they dont work at all in 32bit kernels on amd64 | 03:17 |
| Yagisan | for ease of admin though, most of my boxes use i686 | 03:17 |
| spacey | Yagisan: whats the advantage for admin with that? | 03:17 |
| === Yagisan has 2 i586 class, 3 i686 class, and 1 amd64 class system | ||
| spacey | 586? thats ancient | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | spacey i586 is not ancient | 03:22 |
| Yagisan | spacey: it works PERFECTLY fine, is quiet, and relatively cool | 03:23 |
| Yagisan | I wish I could say the same about several i686 systems I've had | 03:23 |
| === Yagisan dreams about having a quad, dual core amd64 box | ||
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| spacey | Yagisan: thats pre pentium2 right? | 03:30 |
| spacey | that is ancient | 03:30 |
| spacey | :D | 03:30 |
| ogra | 586 is pentium I | 03:32 |
| ogra | and pentium pro | 03:32 |
| ogra | and most of the new geode via and other embedded CPUs | 03:32 |
| spacey | i would not have any use for a pentium1 at least | 03:34 |
| ogra | all my thin clients here are 586 ... even the brand new ones | 03:35 |
| ogra | additionally most of the mini ITX embedded boards you find in settop and multimedia boxes are | 03:35 |
| Yagisan | ogra: pentium pro is the original i686 | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | spacey I have many uses for them | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | firewalls, vpns, thin clients, www server | 03:38 |
| ogra | Yagisan, ah, right | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | testing boxes | 03:38 |
| ogra | i just wanted to poit out that its a wrong assumption that 586 is old :) | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | i586 include k6, k6/2, most cyrix/via chips | 03:39 |
| spacey | for vpn they might be a bit slow | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | spacey: nope. that saturate the link with blowfish | 03:39 |
| spacey | www server could be a bit faster as well, if its public | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | they] | 03:39 |
| spacey | also depends on your bandwidth i guess;p | 03:40 |
| spacey | even my p2 400 has some work if i utilize my 10mbit line over IPSEC | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | spacey. A Pentium 60 can saturate a Fast Ethernet Connection. With blowfish it does about 70% capacity | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | AES or 3DES ? | 03:41 |
| spacey | we don't use blowfish | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | blowfish is nice. just as strong as AES, but much faster. not so good for embeded systems though | 03:42 |
| spacey | pfs_group modp768; | 03:43 |
| spacey | encryption_algorithm 3des; | 03:43 |
| spacey | authentication_algorithm hmac_md5; | 03:43 |
| spacey | compression_algorithm deflate; | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | woo hoo. My Japanese translations are being done :) | 03:43 |
| spacey | from raccoon.conf | 03:43 |
| spacey | racoon even | 03:43 |
| Yagisan | spacey: 3des is very slow. even on amd64 | 03:43 |
| spacey | no performance problems here | 03:44 |
| spacey | but i don't use p1 | 03:44 |
| Yagisan | spacey: switching to aes will give you both better security, and higher throughput | 03:44 |
| spacey | :) | 03:44 |
| spacey | ah, i'll consider that | 03:44 |
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| mcksean | 04:08 | |
| mcksean | anyone out there right now? | 04:08 |
| Yagisan | damm, spacey left | 04:09 |
| Yagisan | mcksean: there is always people here | 04:09 |
| Yagisan | sometimes, we are just to busy to answer | 04:10 |
| mcksean | excellent | 04:10 |
| mcksean | thanks yagisan | 04:10 |
| Yagisan | what's on your mind ? | 04:10 |
| mcksean | i've been looking for an opportunity to deploy a k12ltsp for years and have stumbled across edubuntu when downloading a copy of breezy... | 04:11 |
| mcksean | my kids have had fun with it so far and i'd like some input on the ltsp portion of edubuntu -- is good to go at this point...at beta status? | 04:11 |
| mcksean | oops -- that was supposed to be "would like some input on" | 04:12 |
| Yagisan | I think the ltsp stuff works so well, I use it in a commercial (non-educational) setting | 04:12 |
| Yagisan | :) | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | but I've heard that the next release will be even better | 04:13 |
| mcksean | the k12ltsp project uses the server as the router for the classroom lan and workstations--does edubuntu's ltsp function that way? | 04:13 |
| ogra | its stable and reliable, but lacks some of the features the classic ltsp has ... (i.e. we dont support all options in lts.conf yet) | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | basically | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | but it has some advantages too | 04:14 |
| Yagisan | much quicker and easier install | 04:14 |
| mcksean | heard that | 04:14 |
| mcksean | one cd as opposed to a dvd for fc4 | 04:14 |
| Yagisan | regular updates for sec issues | 04:14 |
| mcksean | very nice :) | 04:14 |
| Yagisan | uses ubuntu native applications | 04:14 |
| Yagisan | :) | 04:15 |
| ogra | and we guarantee upgradeability on new releases ;) | 04:15 |
| ogra | no reinstalls necessary | 04:15 |
| mcksean | one of the biggest obstacles that I have is overcoming MS mindshare -- i've got a very lowtech instructor who will be the one with his hands on the computers most of the time -- i need some info for him on how easy it really is to manage | 04:16 |
| mcksean | also, what are you running on your server for the ltsp? | 04:18 |
| mcksean | can i get by with a p4 2.4GHz box with IDE to get things started?...or do I at least need to upgrade to a SCSI drive? | 04:19 |
| Yagisan | mcksean: ram is important. My box is a 2Ghz amd64, 1.5GB RAM, sevral IDE/SATA drives in a software RAID5 | 04:20 |
| ogra | that really depends on the amount of clients you plan | 04:20 |
| Yagisan | that is currently overkill | 04:20 |
| mcksean | yagisan: nice -- how many clients are you running? | 04:21 |
| mcksean | brb | 04:21 |
| Yagisan | mcksean: there are 4 client systems, but never more then 3 at a time | 04:24 |
| Yagisan | I'm not a big business (yet) | 04:24 |
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| Yagisan | spacey: back ? | 04:38 |
| mcksean | yagisan: thanks for the input -- take care! | 04:38 |
| Yagisan | mcksean: no worries :) | 04:39 |
| Yagisan | spacey: just FYI. des, aes and blowfish compared on a high-end, mid-end and low-end system. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8176 | 04:41 |
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| Mez | hmm - | 04:54 |
| Mez | I'm about to go set up an edubuntu server for someone (mainly for moodle) | 04:54 |
| Mez | is there anything you think we should have web facing atm? | 04:54 |
| Yagisan | spacey: more up to date. high-end now benched in both 64bit and 32bit mode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181 : the results are interesting. | 04:55 |
| Mez | well, anything you'd recommend | 04:55 |
| Yagisan | Mez: I'm not sure I understand your question | 04:56 |
| Mez | Yagisan: I've been asked to set up a moodle server for a school. | 04:57 |
| Mez | I'm going to be basing it around edubuntu | 04:57 |
| spacey | Yagisan: how do you perform that test | 04:58 |
| Yagisan | Mez: ok. I have no experience with moodle, but I can help you with securing the server once moodle is installed | 04:58 |
| ogra | Mez, just apt-get install moodle and answer the debconf questions ... | 04:58 |
| Yagisan | spacey: openssl bench des aes blowfish | 04:58 |
| spacey | Yagisan: bench is an invalid command here | 04:59 |
| Yagisan | spacey oops. speed | 04:59 |
| Yagisan | spacey: "openssl speed" will bench the lot. "openssl speed x y z" will bench x y and z only | 05:00 |
| spacey | Yagisan: is your benchmark 32bit or 64bit? (the amd64 one) | 05:00 |
| Mez | ogra: I've set them up a moodle server before ... but they wiped it and used the windows version | 05:01 |
| Yagisan | spacey: top is 64bit, second is 32bit. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181 | 05:01 |
| ogra | Mez, and why did they ask you to do it again ? | 05:01 |
| spacey | yeah but second is different cpu | 05:01 |
| Mez | Yagisan: should have no problems securing the server - access is going to be by ssh cert only for anything other than web services (and we're going to hook in a module I made for moodle to allow them to access their network files at home) | 05:02 |
| Yagisan | spacey: please check the second pastebin link ;) | 05:02 |
| Mez | ogra: because they wiped it for something else - it was a test machine - now they want to go production with it :D but - well... they dont want to use windows and they dont relly know mych about linux | 05:02 |
| ogra | ah, cool | 05:02 |
| Yagisan | spacey: isn't it cool that the P2 can almost saturate a fast ethernet link :) | 05:03 |
| spacey | Yagisan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8183 | 05:04 |
| spacey | results of my laptop | 05:04 |
| spacey | which is 32 bit | 05:05 |
| Yagisan | spacey: your aes is faster because you have twice the cache. I only have 512kb | 05:05 |
| spacey | aha | 05:06 |
| Yagisan | spacey: but blowfish seems unaffected, and des is slower | 05:07 |
| spacey | blowfish faster @ 32bit it seems | 05:07 |
| Yagisan | spacey: yeah, it's not optimised for 64bit | 05:08 |
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| Yagisan | night all | 05:10 |
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| juliux | hi mhz | 05:55 |
| mhz | juliux: hey!! | 05:55 |
| juliux | mhz, your text was great | 05:56 |
| juliux | we have translate it into german | 05:56 |
| mhz | juliux: really? Good!! | 05:56 |
| mhz | is it on a wiki? | 05:56 |
| juliux | not yet | 05:56 |
| === mhz has not uploaded it in spanish! :) | ||
| juliux | but i can add it to the wiki | 05:56 |
| mhz | juliux: i am glad i could help | 05:56 |
| juliux | and we have made a dvdcover for breezy and will make one for dapper see here http://www.juliux.de/ubuntu/edubuntudvdcover.png | 05:57 |
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| mhz | juliux: i like it | 06:01 |
| mhz | it wont be expensive to print it | 06:01 |
| juliux | i have a epson r200 and i think it cost about 20cent | 06:01 |
| juliux | by 1440 dpi | 06:01 |
| mhz | nice | 06:02 |
| mhz | ogra: have you seen hno73 somewhere (channel) ? | 06:08 |
| mhz | whois responds he is logged but in no channel | 06:08 |
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| scribe63 | anyone successfully upgraded schoolbell and scholtool | 06:23 |
| hno73 | mhz: hello? | 06:24 |
| ogra | scribe63, to what ? there is no update | 06:24 |
| scribe63 | schoolbell from 1.2.2-1 to 1.2.3 and schooltool from 0.11.2 to 0.1.3 | 06:27 |
| ogra | scribe63, they are not yet packaged | 06:27 |
| ogra | schooltool at least isnt yet | 06:28 |
| ogra | its waiting for a zope3 upgrade in debian ... | 06:29 |
| scribe63 | i know cuz they do not display in synaptic. so i'm trying to see whats the proceedure or what may break if i ugrade fron tarballs or using alien on the rpm packages | 06:29 |
| mhz | hno73: pong | 06:30 |
| mhz | hno73: good to see ya | 06:30 |
| mhz | whois didnt tell me where you were | 06:30 |
| mhz | :) | 06:30 |
| mhz | hno73: there are at least 3 things I'd like to discuss with you if possible | 06:30 |
| ogra | scribe63, simple rule of thumb if you dont want to break your system, dont use aline or rpms | 06:31 |
| ogra | we'll get an update before release i think | 06:31 |
| hno73 | mhz: ok, one thing at a time :) | 06:31 |
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| scribe63 | thanks for that pointer, will try the tarballs. if you know, should i remove the previous packages first to avoid any confilcts | 06:33 |
| ogra | scribe63, if you care, wait until jinty comes around, he cares for the packages in debian | 06:33 |
| hno73 | hm, gaim on dapper is not 100% stable ... | 06:33 |
| ogra | scribe63, no idea, i only do the packaging of edubuntu and wouldnt recommend to use tarballs at all .. | 06:34 |
| mhz | hno73: no worries | 06:35 |
| mhz | so, hno73, shall i shoot or you go 1st? | 06:36 |
| ogra | its very unlikely they install in the right locations ... and there is a reson why its not packaged for us yet ... you'll pretty sure also need zope3 from tarballs etc | 06:36 |
| hno73 | mhz: go ahead | 06:37 |
| scribe63 | that makes sense, i'll lookout for jinty, the current schooltool duplicate calendar entries i noticed since in november 2005,its been fixed. thats why i want to update | 06:38 |
| mhz | hno73: /me phone | 06:39 |
| hno73 | ok | 06:39 |
| scribe63 | ogra: new to using chat, now sort of realizing how its done. thanks for the pointers i'll wait till the packager packages. | 06:41 |
| ogra | scribe63, yes, thats the safest method to not break your installation :) | 06:43 |
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| mhz | re | 07:04 |
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| Mez|Work | am just here incase something cocks up with the moodle install :D | 07:29 |
| Mez|Work | so I can poke you guys and get you to help :D | 07:29 |
| mhz | moodle? | 07:31 |
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| flint | ogra, ollie on the flight 3 disk, how do I get around the chroot issue? | 08:27 |
| flint | I guess I will go look on the web site...eh? it is just that you mentioned something about a chroot bug. | 08:29 |
| ogra | it should work with flight3 i386 ... | 08:30 |
| ogra | not with ppc ... and i'm not sure about amd64 | 08:31 |
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| gand | I wish to do some videotutorial, Is there a video stream codec for linux x86 that can be viewed inside browser? | 10:31 |
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