[03:01] <RazaMetaL> hi
[03:02] <RazaMetaL> can you help me with some ltsp on ubuntu?
[03:13] <mhz> RazaMetaL: hi
[03:13] <mhz> RazaMetaL: shoot
[03:14] <RazaMetaL> mhz, thnkz ... :)
[03:14] <RazaMetaL> mhz, i need to enable localmedia support
[03:14] <mhz> RazaMetaL: ooooohhh
[03:14] <mhz> by local, you mean clients?
[03:14] <RazaMetaL> yes
[03:14] <RazaMetaL> localmedia in the clients
[03:14] <mhz> Are you suing Breezy or Dapper?
[03:14] <mhz> using
[03:15] <RazaMetaL> breezy
[03:15] <RazaMetaL> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia#Scripts
[03:15] <RazaMetaL> if you use GDM:
[03:15] <mhz> RazaMetaL: then it doesn't work, afaik
[03:15] <RazaMetaL> /usr/local/bin/LDA-setup.sh goes into line 3 of /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default
[03:16] <RazaMetaL> /usr/local/bin/LDA-shutdown.sh goes into line 3 of /etc/X11/gdm/PostSession/Default
[03:16] <RazaMetaL> I need to upgrade to Dapper ?
[03:16] <mhz> RazaMetaL: localmedia is under development for dapper
[03:17] <mhz> current status is unknown to me
[03:17] <RazaMetaL> :S
[03:17] <mhz> RazaMetaL: gimme a sec
[03:17] <mhz> jsgotangco: alive?
[03:17] <jsgotangco> yeah but quite busy
[03:17] <jsgotangco> whats up
[03:17] <jsgotangco> ?
[03:17] <mhz> is localmedia issue solved for dapper?
[03:18] <mhz> was there a workaround for breezy?
[03:18] <jsgotangco> pmount?
[03:18] <mhz> localmedia = on clients side 
[03:18] <jsgotangco> not sure
[03:19] <mhz> jsgotangco: okis, then you confimr my thoughts, thx
[03:19] <RazaMetaL> :(
[03:19] <mhz> RazaMetaL: nope, not solved yet but under development
[03:19] <mhz> for dapper
[03:19] <mhz> RazaMetaL: yes, I know how you feel
[03:20] <mhz> but look at from this perspective...
[03:20] <mhz> Breezy is verion 1 of Edubuntu, Dapper #2
[03:20] <mhz> and in only 2 versions (releasing every 6 month period) issues are taking good care of :D
[03:21] <RazaMetaL> i'm happy now with breezy and ltsp :)
[03:21] <mhz> hehehe
[03:21] <mhz> ogra is doing a terrific job
[03:21] <mhz> trying to make everyone happy
[03:21] <RazaMetaL> coul be better if the clients can support the localmedia
[03:21] <mhz> of course
[03:22] <mhz> and they will
[03:22] <mhz> Dapper is scheduled for April
[03:22] <RazaMetaL> whats happens if i start the LDA-setup.sh ?
[03:22] <mhz> i have not tested it yet
[03:22] <RazaMetaL> the script will be running in the client side of server side ?
[03:23] <mhz> RazaMetaL: afaik, LTSP is about running all the stuff in server side, forwarding x via ssh
[03:23] <RazaMetaL> ahh.... is clear now
[03:24] <mhz> All clients need is processor, little ram and a NIC
[03:24] <cliebow> mhz: yes it is..ubuntu forwards xover ssh..traditional does a simle x connection
[03:25] <mhz> cliebow: thx for confirming that at this late hours for my head
[03:25] <cliebow> mon plaisir,mon ami!
[03:31] <RazaMetaL> mhz, i'm reading https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ThinClientLocalDevices
[03:31] <RazaMetaL> :)
[03:31] <mhz> cliebow: je ne se parle francais, at all :D
[03:32] <mhz> RazaMetaL: oooh, yes, I thought you knew... Edubuntu uses a LTSP modification, not standard ltsp
[03:33] <mhz> LTSP 4.2 (i guess) will use Edubuntu innovations
[03:33] <RazaMetaL> :S
[11:07] <alejandro> alejandro@voyager:~/Desktop$ sudo ltsp-build-client
[11:07] <alejandro> I: Retrieving Release
[11:07] <alejandro> E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release
[11:07] <alejandro> hmm, why ltsp-build-client is not working here?
[11:08] <ogra> try with another mirror 
[11:08] <ogra>  sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:08] <ogra> or 
[11:09] <ogra> mount cdrom &&  sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom
[11:09] <ogra> the us mirror is known to have issues from time to time
[11:09] <ogra> (its changed to archive.ubuntu.com in dapper)
[11:10] <alejandro> yes, i tested with another mirrors, but the same problem.
[11:12] <alejandro> it's odd, because I can see the release file in the web browser.
[11:13] <ogra> works fine here ...
[11:13] <ogra> at least with the first command i gave you above ...
[11:16] <alejandro> alejandro@voyager:/$  sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:16] <alejandro> I: Retrieving Release
[11:16] <alejandro> E: Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release
[11:16] <alejandro> hm.
[11:16] <ogra> your network setup is fine on this machine ? 
[11:17] <ogra> can you do:
[11:17] <ogra> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release
[11:17] <alejandro> yes, I downloaded with wget.
[11:18] <ogra> thats pretty strange ...
[11:19] <jsgotangco> brb
[11:20] <ogra> if you run a normal apt-get update on the system that works as well ? (note that ltsp-build-client does exactly this)
[11:21] <alejandro> sudo debootstrap breezy /opt/ltsp/i386/ archive.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <alejandro> the same trying to make a debootstrap
[11:22] <alejandro> yes, apt-get update works fine.
[11:22] <alejandro> magic! :)
[11:22] <ogra> that cant work 
[11:23] <ogra> sudo debootstrap breezy /opt/ltsp/i386/ archive.ubuntu.com
[11:23] <ogra> it clearly wont get any file 
[11:23] <ogra> you need archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:26] <alejandro> yes, i tried both
[11:26] <alejandro> ;(
[11:27] <ogra> any cdrom handy to try with a cd as mirror ? 
[11:35] <alejandro> no, i will try to download it again.
[11:36] <dsaa[away] > ogra: may i know if there's a solution to the serial keyboard and serial mouse non-detection in edubuntu breezy?
[11:41] <ogra> dsaa[away] , not for thin clients, no, you could try a little sed magic in the ltsp-client-setup initscript though ...
[11:44] <dsaa[away] > ogra: for default desktops only, i'm not using ltsp yet.
[11:44] <ogra> hmm, well, now that i think about it ... you could install the "joystick" package in the client chroot and write an initscript that runs inputattach with the right parameters, that might be easier
[11:44] <ogra> ah, k
[11:45] <ogra> just install joystick and make sure inputattach gets started before gdm ...
[11:45] <ogra> i.e. you could add it to the bootmisc.sh script ...
[11:47] <dsaa[away] > ogra: thanks for the clue.
[11:47] <ogra> youre welcome :)
[12:25] <eds0n> Hey, just wondering.. I've just set up an edubuntu server, and I'm wondering how to add users so you can login through the clients? I can't login :/
[12:25] <ogra> eds0n, every user that can log in locally on the server is also able to log in through a client ...
[12:26] <eds0n> ogra: so you mean I just add users the regular way, and that's it?
[12:27] <ogra> that should be it, yes ...
[12:27] <eds0n> ogra: cause I tried but it didn't work :/ Must be something else then
[12:27] <eds0n> ogra: ok, I'll check it out more thoroughly then
[12:27] <ogra> did you try with your admin user ? 
[12:28] <eds0n> yep
[12:28] <eds0n> doesn't login
[12:28] <ogra> note that if you changed the ip of the interface the thin clients are connected to after installation you must run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys to make the ssh server aware of the change ...
[12:28] <ogra> try that and try to log in again
[12:29] <eds0n> ogra: SSH?
[12:30] <eds0n> ogra: I'm just talking about logging in through the thin-clients. Didn't know that was through SSH
[12:30] <eds0n> ahh. it worked! Thanks :D
[12:30] <ogra> the edubuntu ltsp uses ssh tunnels
[12:30] <eds0n> ogra: cool, thanks man
[12:30] <ogra> (no unsafe X forwarding ;) )
[12:30] <ogra> :)
[12:30] <ogra> glad to help :)
[12:34] <eds0n> ogra: thanks again, now I can start the experiment :)
[12:38] <ogra> :)
[12:38] <ogra> come back if you got more questions ;)
[12:43] <eds0n> well, we're basically doing a performance experiment, so we have to find out what tools to use to measure performance. Any ideas?
[12:43] <ogra> hmm ...
[12:46] <dsaa[away] > ogra: may i know what channel the community council meeting is conducted in the IRC?
[12:46] <spacey> #ubuntu-meeting
[12:46] <ogra> #ubuntu-meeting, as all meetings we have :)
[12:46] <spacey> all meetings
[12:48] <dsaa[away] > ogra: thanks again
[01:11] <cliebow> ogra: with last weeks dapper iso.can not find suitable kernel..on Dell laptop,,any hunts?
[01:12] <ogra> a dily build ? 
[01:12] <ogra> *daily
[01:12] <ogra> (note that the last tested one was flight 3, which should be fine) 
[01:13] <cliebow> wel just an iso so not too sure.ill look up fklight three see if it is what i have
[01:13] <ogra> we were all in london for the distro hacking sprint, so nobody had time to check the dailies
[01:13] <cliebow> ill just give another try..
[01:13] <mhz> ogra: hi. paolob was here last night and sent this message to you "the lease reduction has to be done in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.con and not in /etc/dhcp/"
[01:14] <ogra> mhz, yup, i know, my mistake ...
[01:14] <mhz> oh, no mistake, just a little trip :)
[01:15] <cliebow> mhz: i type far better in french than in English 8~)
[01:15] <cliebow> im just a downeaster from Maine
[01:15] <mhz> cliebow: ok, mon amie
[01:16] <cliebow> 8~)
[01:18] <mhz> cliebow: no matter what lang. I type in, I always make typos :D
[01:18] <cliebow> me too..bad keyboard it m ust be
[01:19] <cliebow> like yoda i also talk sometimes
[01:19] <mhz> nah... bad naughty fingers ;p
[01:19] <cliebow> 8~)..booking it for school..later..
[03:04] <spacey> i miss k8 kernel on ubuntu 32bit
[03:04] <spacey> ;(
[03:08] <ogra> err... k8 on 32bit ??
[03:08] <spacey> yeah
[03:08] <spacey> why not
[03:09] <ogra> because k8 is compiled to make full use of the 64bit registers of the CPU ...
[03:09] <ogra> it cant work reliable in 32bit
[03:09] <spacey> hmm
[03:10] <spacey> will k7 work?
[03:10] <Yagisan> ??
[03:10] <Yagisan> a k8 kernel works fine on 32bit
[03:10] <Yagisan> spaceyk7 is ok
[03:10] <spacey> many valid reasons to run i386 on an amd64 cpu
[03:10] <spacey> at least
[03:11] <spacey> just wondering which kernel is most ideal in this case
[03:11] <spacey> i'll give k7 a try
[03:14] <Yagisan> spacey k7 works. k8 (32bit kernel) IIRC is similar to the pentium 4 optimised kernels
[03:15] <ogra> Yagisan, there is no k8 32bit kernel in ubuntu 
[03:15] <spacey> Yagisan: so which kernel would fit best? :P
[03:15] <Yagisan> ogra: pity. the 0.0000000005% speedup ;)
[03:16] <Yagisan> spacey Ideally a rool-your-own, but out of the box - k7
[03:16] <ogra> heh
[03:17] <spacey> Yagisan: xD
[03:17] <ogra> it'd rather be intresting to have the fan and cputmp modules working ... they dont work at all in 32bit kernels on amd64
[03:17] <Yagisan> for ease of admin though, most of my boxes use i686
[03:17] <spacey> Yagisan: whats the advantage for admin with that?
[03:18] <spacey> 586? thats ancient
[03:22] <Yagisan> spacey i586 is not ancient
[03:23] <Yagisan> spacey: it works PERFECTLY fine, is quiet, and relatively cool
[03:23] <Yagisan> I wish I could say the same about several i686 systems I've had
[03:30] <spacey> Yagisan: thats pre pentium2 right?
[03:30] <spacey> that is ancient
[03:30] <spacey> :D
[03:32] <ogra> 586 is pentium I
[03:32] <ogra> and pentium pro
[03:32] <ogra> and most of the new geode via and other embedded CPUs
[03:34] <spacey> i would not have any use for a pentium1 at least
[03:35] <ogra> all my thin clients here are 586 ... even the brand new ones 
[03:35] <ogra> additionally most of the mini ITX embedded boards you find in settop and multimedia boxes are 
[03:38] <Yagisan> ogra: pentium pro is the original i686
[03:38] <Yagisan> spacey I have many uses for them
[03:38] <Yagisan> firewalls, vpns, thin clients, www server
[03:38] <ogra> Yagisan, ah, right
[03:38] <Yagisan> testing boxes
[03:39] <ogra> i just wanted to poit out that its a wrong assumption that 586 is old :)
[03:39] <Yagisan> i586 include k6, k6/2, most cyrix/via chips
[03:39] <spacey> for vpn they might be a bit slow
[03:39] <Yagisan> spacey: nope. that saturate the link with blowfish
[03:39] <spacey> www server could be a bit faster as well, if its public
[03:39] <Yagisan> they] 
[03:40] <spacey> also depends on your bandwidth i guess;p
[03:41] <spacey> even my p2 400 has some work if i utilize my 10mbit line over IPSEC
[03:41] <Yagisan> spacey. A Pentium 60 can saturate a Fast Ethernet Connection. With blowfish it does about 70% capacity
[03:41] <Yagisan> AES or 3DES ?
[03:41] <spacey> we don't use blowfish
[03:42] <Yagisan> blowfish is nice. just as strong as AES, but much faster. not so good for embeded systems though
[03:43] <spacey>         pfs_group modp768;
[03:43] <spacey>         encryption_algorithm 3des;
[03:43] <spacey>         authentication_algorithm hmac_md5;
[03:43] <spacey>         compression_algorithm deflate;
[03:43] <Yagisan> woo hoo. My Japanese translations are being done :)
[03:43] <spacey> from raccoon.conf
[03:43] <spacey> racoon even
[03:43] <Yagisan> spacey: 3des is very slow. even on amd64
[03:44] <spacey> no performance problems here
[03:44] <spacey> but i don't use p1
[03:44] <Yagisan> spacey: switching to aes will give you both better security, and higher throughput
[03:44] <spacey> :)
[03:44] <spacey> ah, i'll consider that
[04:08] <mcksean> 
[04:08] <mcksean> anyone out there right now?
[04:09] <Yagisan> damm, spacey left
[04:09] <Yagisan> mcksean: there is always people here
[04:10] <Yagisan> sometimes, we are just to busy to answer
[04:10] <mcksean> excellent
[04:10] <mcksean> thanks yagisan
[04:10] <Yagisan> what's on your mind ?
[04:11] <mcksean> i've been looking for an opportunity to deploy a k12ltsp for years and have stumbled across edubuntu when downloading a copy of breezy...
[04:11] <mcksean> my kids have had fun with it so far and i'd like some input on the ltsp portion of edubuntu -- is good to go at this point...at beta status?
[04:12] <mcksean> oops -- that was supposed to be "would like some input on"
[04:12] <Yagisan> I think the ltsp stuff works so well, I use it in a commercial (non-educational) setting
[04:13] <Yagisan> :)
[04:13] <Yagisan> but I've heard that the next release will be even better
[04:13] <mcksean> the k12ltsp project uses the server as the router for the classroom lan and workstations--does edubuntu's ltsp function that way?
[04:13] <ogra> its stable and reliable, but lacks some of the features the classic ltsp has ... (i.e. we dont support all options in lts.conf yet)
[04:13] <Yagisan> basically
[04:14] <Yagisan> but it has some advantages too
[04:14] <Yagisan> much quicker and easier install
[04:14] <mcksean> heard that
[04:14] <mcksean> one cd as opposed to a dvd for fc4
[04:14] <Yagisan> regular updates for sec issues
[04:14] <mcksean> very nice :)
[04:14] <Yagisan> uses ubuntu native applications
[04:15] <Yagisan> :)
[04:15] <ogra> and we guarantee upgradeability on new releases ;)
[04:15] <ogra> no reinstalls necessary 
[04:16] <mcksean> one of the biggest obstacles that I have is overcoming MS mindshare -- i've got a very lowtech instructor who will be the one with his hands on the computers most of the time -- i need some info for him on how easy it really is to manage
[04:18] <mcksean> also, what are you running on your server for the ltsp?
[04:19] <mcksean> can i get by with a p4 2.4GHz box with IDE to get things started?...or do I at least need to upgrade to a SCSI drive?
[04:20] <Yagisan> mcksean: ram is important. My box is a 2Ghz amd64, 1.5GB RAM, sevral IDE/SATA drives in a software RAID5
[04:20] <ogra> that really depends on the amount of clients you plan
[04:20] <Yagisan> that is currently overkill
[04:21] <mcksean> yagisan: nice -- how many clients are you running?
[04:21] <mcksean> brb
[04:24] <Yagisan> mcksean: there are 4 client systems, but never more then 3 at a time
[04:24] <Yagisan> I'm not a big business (yet)
[04:38] <Yagisan> spacey: back ?
[04:38] <mcksean> yagisan: thanks for the input -- take care!
[04:39] <Yagisan> mcksean: no worries :)
[04:41] <Yagisan> spacey: just FYI. des, aes and blowfish compared on a high-end, mid-end and low-end system. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8176
[04:54] <Mez> hmm -
[04:54] <Mez> I'm about to go set up an edubuntu server for someone (mainly for moodle)
[04:54] <Mez> is there anything you think we should have web facing atm?
[04:55] <Yagisan> spacey: more up to date. high-end now benched in both 64bit and 32bit mode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181 : the results are interesting.
[04:55] <Mez> well, anything you'd recommend
[04:56] <Yagisan> Mez: I'm not sure I understand your question
[04:57] <Mez> Yagisan: I've been asked to set up a moodle server for a school.
[04:57] <Mez> I'm going to be basing it around edubuntu
[04:58] <spacey> Yagisan: how do you perform that test
[04:58] <Yagisan> Mez: ok. I have no experience with moodle, but I can help you with securing the server once moodle is installed
[04:58] <ogra> Mez, just apt-get install moodle and answer the debconf questions ...
[04:58] <Yagisan> spacey: openssl bench des aes blowfish
[04:59] <spacey> Yagisan: bench is an invalid command here
[04:59] <Yagisan> spacey oops. speed
[05:00] <Yagisan> spacey: "openssl speed" will bench the lot. "openssl speed x y z" will bench x y and z only
[05:00] <spacey> Yagisan: is your benchmark 32bit or 64bit? (the amd64 one)
[05:01] <Mez> ogra: I've set them up a moodle server before ... but they wiped it and used the windows version
[05:01] <Yagisan> spacey: top is 64bit, second is 32bit. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181
[05:01] <ogra> Mez, and why did they ask you to do it again ? 
[05:01] <spacey> yeah but second is different cpu
[05:02] <Mez> Yagisan: should have no problems securing the server - access is going to be by ssh cert only for anything other than web services (and we're going to hook in a module I made for moodle to allow them to access their network files at home)
[05:02] <Yagisan> spacey: please check the second pastebin link ;)
[05:02] <Mez> ogra: because they wiped it for something else - it was a test machine - now they want to go production with it :D but - well... they dont want to use windows and they dont relly know mych about linux
[05:02] <ogra> ah, cool
[05:03] <Yagisan> spacey: isn't it cool that the P2 can almost saturate a fast ethernet link :)
[05:04] <spacey> Yagisan:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8183
[05:04] <spacey> results of my laptop
[05:05] <spacey> which is 32 bit
[05:05] <Yagisan> spacey: your aes is faster because you have twice the cache. I only have 512kb
[05:06] <spacey> aha
[05:07] <Yagisan> spacey: but blowfish seems unaffected, and des is slower
[05:07] <spacey> blowfish faster @ 32bit it seems
[05:08] <Yagisan> spacey: yeah, it's not optimised for 64bit
[05:10] <Yagisan> night all
[05:55] <juliux> hi mhz 
[05:55] <mhz> juliux: hey!!
[05:56] <juliux> mhz, your text was great
[05:56] <juliux> we have translate it into german
[05:56] <mhz> juliux: really? Good!!
[05:56] <mhz> is it on a wiki?
[05:56] <juliux> not yet
[05:56] <juliux> but i can add it to the wiki
[05:56] <mhz> juliux: i am glad i could help
[05:57] <juliux> and we have made a dvdcover for breezy and will make one for dapper see here http://www.juliux.de/ubuntu/edubuntudvdcover.png
[06:01] <mhz> juliux: i like it
[06:01] <mhz> it wont be expensive to print it
[06:01] <juliux> i have a epson r200 and i think it cost about 20cent 
[06:01] <juliux> by 1440 dpi
[06:02] <mhz> nice
[06:08] <mhz> ogra: have you seen hno73 somewhere (channel) ?
[06:08] <mhz> whois responds he is logged but in no channel
[06:23] <scribe63> anyone successfully upgraded schoolbell and scholtool
[06:24] <hno73> mhz: hello?
[06:24] <ogra> scribe63, to what ? there is no update 
[06:27] <scribe63> schoolbell from 1.2.2-1 to 1.2.3 and schooltool from 0.11.2 to 0.1.3
[06:27] <ogra> scribe63, they are not yet packaged 
[06:28] <ogra> schooltool at least isnt yet 
[06:29] <ogra> its waiting for a zope3 upgrade in debian ...
[06:29] <scribe63> i know cuz they do not display in synaptic. so i'm trying to see whats the proceedure or what may break if i ugrade fron tarballs or using alien on the rpm packages
[06:30] <mhz> hno73: pong
[06:30] <mhz> hno73: good to see ya
[06:30] <mhz> whois didnt tell me where you were
[06:30] <mhz> :)
[06:30] <mhz> hno73: there are at least 3 things I'd like to discuss with you if possible
[06:31] <ogra> scribe63, simple rule of thumb if you dont want to break your system, dont use aline or rpms
[06:31] <ogra> we'll get an update before release i think
[06:31] <hno73> mhz: ok, one thing at a time :)
[06:33] <scribe63> thanks for that pointer, will try the tarballs. if you know, should  i remove the previous packages first to avoid any confilcts
[06:33] <ogra> scribe63, if you care, wait until jinty comes around, he cares for the packages in debian 
[06:33] <hno73> hm, gaim on dapper is not 100% stable ...
[06:34] <ogra> scribe63, no idea, i only do the packaging of edubuntu and wouldnt recommend to use tarballs at all ..
[06:35] <mhz> hno73: no worries
[06:36] <mhz> so, hno73, shall i shoot or you go 1st?
[06:36] <ogra> its very unlikely they install in the right locations ... and there is a reson why its not packaged for us yet ... you'll pretty sure also need zope3 from tarballs etc
[06:37] <hno73> mhz: go ahead
[06:38] <scribe63> that makes sense, i'll lookout for jinty, the current schooltool duplicate calendar entries i noticed since in november 2005,its been fixed. thats why i want to update
[06:39] <mhz> hno73: /me phone
[06:39] <hno73> ok
[06:41] <scribe63> ogra: new to using chat, now sort of realizing how its done. thanks for the pointers i'll wait till the packager packages.
[06:43] <ogra> scribe63, yes, thats the safest method to not break your installation :)
[07:04] <mhz> re
[07:29] <Mez|Work> am just here incase something cocks up with the moodle install :D
[07:29] <Mez|Work> so I can poke you guys and get you to help :D
[07:31] <mhz> moodle?
[08:27] <flint> ogra, ollie on the flight 3 disk, how do I get around the chroot issue?
[08:29] <flint> I guess I will go look on the web site...eh?  it is just that you mentioned something about a chroot bug.
[08:30] <ogra> it should work with flight3 i386 ...
[08:31] <ogra> not with ppc ... and i'm not sure about amd64 
[09:55] <aralia> hi. I'm new here!
[10:31] <gand> I wish to do some videotutorial, Is there a video stream codec for linux x86 that can be viewed inside browser?