=== ealden_ is now known as ealden === EightBall [n=EightBal@cpe-69-202-155-237.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === EightBall [n=EightBal@cpe-69-202-155-237.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === EightBall [n=EightBal@cpe-69-202-155-237.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === EightBall [n=EightBal@cpe-69-202-155-237.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.83] has joined #edubuntu === pitux [n=pitux@86-240-90.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.160.18] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === RazaMetaL [n=pc4@pc.gsalas.manta.telconet.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] hi === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.160.18] has left #edubuntu ["Auf] [03:02] can you help me with some ltsp on ubuntu? === mhz_food is now known as mhz [03:13] RazaMetaL: hi [03:13] RazaMetaL: shoot [03:14] mhz, thnkz ... :) [03:14] mhz, i need to enable localmedia support [03:14] RazaMetaL: ooooohhh [03:14] by local, you mean clients? [03:14] yes [03:14] localmedia in the clients [03:14] Are you suing Breezy or Dapper? [03:14] using [03:15] breezy [03:15] http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LocalMedia#Scripts [03:15] if you use GDM: [03:15] RazaMetaL: then it doesn't work, afaik [03:15] /usr/local/bin/LDA-setup.sh goes into line 3 of /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default [03:16] /usr/local/bin/LDA-shutdown.sh goes into line 3 of /etc/X11/gdm/PostSession/Default === mhz checking again, but he remembers localmedia is one of the issues for breezy [03:16] I need to upgrade to Dapper ? [03:16] RazaMetaL: localmedia is under development for dapper [03:17] current status is unknown to me [03:17] :S === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.34] has joined #edubuntu [03:17] RazaMetaL: gimme a sec [03:17] jsgotangco: alive? [03:17] yeah but quite busy [03:17] whats up [03:17] ? [03:17] is localmedia issue solved for dapper? [03:18] was there a workaround for breezy? [03:18] pmount? [03:18] localmedia = on clients side [03:18] not sure [03:19] jsgotangco: okis, then you confimr my thoughts, thx === cliebow [n=cliebow@70-33-151-214.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:19] :( [03:19] RazaMetaL: nope, not solved yet but under development [03:19] for dapper [03:19] RazaMetaL: yes, I know how you feel [03:20] but look at from this perspective... [03:20] Breezy is verion 1 of Edubuntu, Dapper #2 [03:20] and in only 2 versions (releasing every 6 month period) issues are taking good care of :D [03:21] i'm happy now with breezy and ltsp :) [03:21] hehehe [03:21] ogra is doing a terrific job [03:21] trying to make everyone happy [03:21] coul be better if the clients can support the localmedia [03:21] of course [03:22] and they will [03:22] Dapper is scheduled for April [03:22] whats happens if i start the LDA-setup.sh ? [03:22] i have not tested it yet [03:22] the script will be running in the client side of server side ? === mhz had more boxes for an LTSP environment but now he only has 2 boxes [03:23] RazaMetaL: afaik, LTSP is about running all the stuff in server side, forwarding x via ssh [03:23] ahh.... is clear now [03:24] All clients need is processor, little ram and a NIC [03:24] mhz: yes it is..ubuntu forwards xover ssh..traditional does a simle x connection [03:25] cliebow: thx for confirming that at this late hours for my head [03:25] mon plaisir,mon ami! [03:31] mhz, i'm reading https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ThinClientLocalDevices [03:31] :) === mhz is reading too [03:31] cliebow: je ne se parle francais, at all :D [03:32] RazaMetaL: oooh, yes, I thought you knew... Edubuntu uses a LTSP modification, not standard ltsp [03:33] LTSP 4.2 (i guess) will use Edubuntu innovations [03:33] :S === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === RazaMetaL [n=pc4@pc.gsalas.manta.telconet.net] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo_ [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_zZZZzz === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie is away: visit wahoy.com, zamboanga's free online classified ads === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.83] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-126-121.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === zakame is now known as zachy === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === guim is now known as gratelamoa === gratelamoa is now known as guim === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.64] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie is away: visit wahoy.com, zamboanga's free online classified ads === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-126-121.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa[away] [n=dsaa@210.1.91.115] has joined #edubuntu === alejandro [n=alejandr@137.Red-80-25-49.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] alejandro@voyager:~/Desktop$ sudo ltsp-build-client [11:07] I: Retrieving Release [11:07] E: Failed getting release file http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release [11:07] hmm, why ltsp-build-client is not working here? [11:08] try with another mirror [11:08] sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [11:08] or [11:09] mount cdrom && sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror file:///cdrom [11:09] the us mirror is known to have issues from time to time [11:09] (its changed to archive.ubuntu.com in dapper) [11:10] yes, i tested with another mirrors, but the same problem. [11:12] it's odd, because I can see the release file in the web browser. [11:13] works fine here ... [11:13] at least with the first command i gave you above ... [11:16] alejandro@voyager:/$ sudo ltsp-build-client --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [11:16] I: Retrieving Release [11:16] E: Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release [11:16] hm. [11:16] your network setup is fine on this machine ? [11:17] can you do: [11:17] wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release [11:17] yes, I downloaded with wget. [11:18] thats pretty strange ... [11:19] brb [11:20] if you run a normal apt-get update on the system that works as well ? (note that ltsp-build-client does exactly this) [11:21] sudo debootstrap breezy /opt/ltsp/i386/ archive.ubuntu.com [11:21] the same trying to make a debootstrap [11:22] yes, apt-get update works fine. [11:22] magic! :) [11:22] that cant work [11:23] sudo debootstrap breezy /opt/ltsp/i386/ archive.ubuntu.com [11:23] it clearly wont get any file [11:23] you need archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [11:26] yes, i tried both [11:26] ;( [11:27] any cdrom handy to try with a cd as mirror ? [11:35] no, i will try to download it again. [11:36] ogra: may i know if there's a solution to the serial keyboard and serial mouse non-detection in edubuntu breezy? === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-44-222.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:41] dsaa[away] , not for thin clients, no, you could try a little sed magic in the ltsp-client-setup initscript though ... === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [11:44] ogra: for default desktops only, i'm not using ltsp yet. [11:44] hmm, well, now that i think about it ... you could install the "joystick" package in the client chroot and write an initscript that runs inputattach with the right parameters, that might be easier [11:44] ah, k [11:45] just install joystick and make sure inputattach gets started before gdm ... [11:45] i.e. you could add it to the bootmisc.sh script ... [11:47] ogra: thanks for the clue. [11:47] youre welcome :) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Kaiser_Sleeps is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo_ is now known as lucasvo === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-152-30.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.34] has joined #edubuntu === eds0n [n=edson@pc123-89.iu.hio.no] has joined #edubuntu [12:25] Hey, just wondering.. I've just set up an edubuntu server, and I'm wondering how to add users so you can login through the clients? I can't login :/ [12:25] eds0n, every user that can log in locally on the server is also able to log in through a client ... [12:26] ogra: so you mean I just add users the regular way, and that's it? [12:27] that should be it, yes ... [12:27] ogra: cause I tried but it didn't work :/ Must be something else then [12:27] ogra: ok, I'll check it out more thoroughly then [12:27] did you try with your admin user ? [12:28] yep [12:28] doesn't login [12:28] note that if you changed the ip of the interface the thin clients are connected to after installation you must run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys to make the ssh server aware of the change ... [12:28] try that and try to log in again [12:29] ogra: SSH? [12:30] ogra: I'm just talking about logging in through the thin-clients. Didn't know that was through SSH [12:30] ahh. it worked! Thanks :D [12:30] the edubuntu ltsp uses ssh tunnels [12:30] ogra: cool, thanks man [12:30] (no unsafe X forwarding ;) ) [12:30] :) [12:30] glad to help :) [12:34] ogra: thanks again, now I can start the experiment :) [12:38] :) [12:38] come back if you got more questions ;) [12:43] well, we're basically doing a performance experiment, so we have to find out what tools to use to measure performance. Any ideas? [12:43] hmm ... [12:46] ogra: may i know what channel the community council meeting is conducted in the IRC? [12:46] #ubuntu-meeting [12:46] #ubuntu-meeting, as all meetings we have :) [12:46] all meetings === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.60.202] has joined #edubuntu [12:48] ogra: thanks again === alejandro [n=alejandr@137.Red-80-25-49.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa[away] is now known as dsaa === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-87-1-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [01:11] ogra: with last weeks dapper iso.can not find suitable kernel..on Dell laptop,,any hunts? [01:12] a dily build ? [01:12] *daily [01:12] (note that the last tested one was flight 3, which should be fine) [01:13] wel just an iso so not too sure.ill look up fklight three see if it is what i have [01:13] we were all in london for the distro hacking sprint, so nobody had time to check the dailies [01:13] ill just give another try.. [01:13] ogra: hi. paolob was here last night and sent this message to you "the lease reduction has to be done in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.con and not in /etc/dhcp/" [01:14] mhz, yup, i know, my mistake ... [01:14] oh, no mistake, just a little trip :) [01:15] mhz: i type far better in french than in English 8~) === mhz remembers very clearly he had also mentioned that to paolob 3 weeks ago or so [01:15] im just a downeaster from Maine [01:15] cliebow: ok, mon amie [01:16] 8~) [01:18] cliebow: no matter what lang. I type in, I always make typos :D [01:18] me too..bad keyboard it m ust be [01:19] like yoda i also talk sometimes [01:19] nah... bad naughty fingers ;p [01:19] 8~)..booking it for school..later.. === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.35] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === irvin_ [n=irvin@203.213.194.230] has joined #edubuntu === irvin_ is now known as irvin === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F088.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@newsme.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_off === dsaa is now known as dsaa[away] === dsa[away] [n=dsaa@210.213.94.223] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra [03:04] i miss k8 kernel on ubuntu 32bit [03:04] ;( [03:08] err... k8 on 32bit ?? [03:08] yeah [03:08] why not [03:09] because k8 is compiled to make full use of the 64bit registers of the CPU ... [03:09] it cant work reliable in 32bit [03:09] hmm [03:10] will k7 work? [03:10] ?? [03:10] a k8 kernel works fine on 32bit [03:10] spaceyk7 is ok [03:10] many valid reasons to run i386 on an amd64 cpu [03:10] at least === dsaa[away] [n=dsaa@210.5.88.31] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] just wondering which kernel is most ideal in this case [03:11] i'll give k7 a try [03:14] spacey k7 works. k8 (32bit kernel) IIRC is similar to the pentium 4 optimised kernels [03:15] Yagisan, there is no k8 32bit kernel in ubuntu [03:15] Yagisan: so which kernel would fit best? :P [03:15] ogra: pity. the 0.0000000005% speedup ;) [03:16] spacey Ideally a rool-your-own, but out of the box - k7 [03:16] heh [03:17] Yagisan: xD [03:17] it'd rather be intresting to have the fan and cputmp modules working ... they dont work at all in 32bit kernels on amd64 [03:17] for ease of admin though, most of my boxes use i686 [03:17] Yagisan: whats the advantage for admin with that? === Yagisan has 2 i586 class, 3 i686 class, and 1 amd64 class system [03:18] 586? thats ancient [03:22] spacey i586 is not ancient [03:23] spacey: it works PERFECTLY fine, is quiet, and relatively cool [03:23] I wish I could say the same about several i686 systems I've had === Yagisan dreams about having a quad, dual core amd64 box === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.213.86.165] has joined #edubuntu [03:30] Yagisan: thats pre pentium2 right? [03:30] that is ancient [03:30] :D [03:32] 586 is pentium I [03:32] and pentium pro [03:32] and most of the new geode via and other embedded CPUs [03:34] i would not have any use for a pentium1 at least [03:35] all my thin clients here are 586 ... even the brand new ones [03:35] additionally most of the mini ITX embedded boards you find in settop and multimedia boxes are [03:38] ogra: pentium pro is the original i686 [03:38] spacey I have many uses for them [03:38] firewalls, vpns, thin clients, www server [03:38] Yagisan, ah, right [03:38] testing boxes [03:39] i just wanted to poit out that its a wrong assumption that 586 is old :) [03:39] i586 include k6, k6/2, most cyrix/via chips [03:39] for vpn they might be a bit slow [03:39] spacey: nope. that saturate the link with blowfish [03:39] www server could be a bit faster as well, if its public [03:39] they] [03:40] also depends on your bandwidth i guess;p [03:41] even my p2 400 has some work if i utilize my 10mbit line over IPSEC [03:41] spacey. A Pentium 60 can saturate a Fast Ethernet Connection. With blowfish it does about 70% capacity [03:41] AES or 3DES ? [03:41] we don't use blowfish [03:42] blowfish is nice. just as strong as AES, but much faster. not so good for embeded systems though [03:43] pfs_group modp768; [03:43] encryption_algorithm 3des; [03:43] authentication_algorithm hmac_md5; [03:43] compression_algorithm deflate; [03:43] woo hoo. My Japanese translations are being done :) [03:43] from raccoon.conf [03:43] racoon even [03:43] spacey: 3des is very slow. even on amd64 [03:44] no performance problems here [03:44] but i don't use p1 [03:44] spacey: switching to aes will give you both better security, and higher throughput [03:44] :) [03:44] ah, i'll consider that === vmarks [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === mcksean [n=mcksean@209.170.255.14] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] [04:08] anyone out there right now? [04:09] damm, spacey left [04:09] mcksean: there is always people here [04:10] sometimes, we are just to busy to answer [04:10] excellent [04:10] thanks yagisan [04:10] what's on your mind ? [04:11] i've been looking for an opportunity to deploy a k12ltsp for years and have stumbled across edubuntu when downloading a copy of breezy... [04:11] my kids have had fun with it so far and i'd like some input on the ltsp portion of edubuntu -- is good to go at this point...at beta status? [04:12] oops -- that was supposed to be "would like some input on" [04:12] I think the ltsp stuff works so well, I use it in a commercial (non-educational) setting [04:13] :) [04:13] but I've heard that the next release will be even better [04:13] the k12ltsp project uses the server as the router for the classroom lan and workstations--does edubuntu's ltsp function that way? [04:13] its stable and reliable, but lacks some of the features the classic ltsp has ... (i.e. we dont support all options in lts.conf yet) [04:13] basically [04:14] but it has some advantages too [04:14] much quicker and easier install [04:14] heard that [04:14] one cd as opposed to a dvd for fc4 [04:14] regular updates for sec issues [04:14] very nice :) [04:14] uses ubuntu native applications [04:15] :) [04:15] and we guarantee upgradeability on new releases ;) [04:15] no reinstalls necessary [04:16] one of the biggest obstacles that I have is overcoming MS mindshare -- i've got a very lowtech instructor who will be the one with his hands on the computers most of the time -- i need some info for him on how easy it really is to manage [04:18] also, what are you running on your server for the ltsp? [04:19] can i get by with a p4 2.4GHz box with IDE to get things started?...or do I at least need to upgrade to a SCSI drive? [04:20] mcksean: ram is important. My box is a 2Ghz amd64, 1.5GB RAM, sevral IDE/SATA drives in a software RAID5 [04:20] that really depends on the amount of clients you plan [04:20] that is currently overkill [04:21] yagisan: nice -- how many clients are you running? [04:21] brb [04:24] mcksean: there are 4 client systems, but never more then 3 at a time [04:24] I'm not a big business (yet) === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_Sleeps [04:38] spacey: back ? [04:38] yagisan: thanks for the input -- take care! [04:39] mcksean: no worries :) [04:41] spacey: just FYI. des, aes and blowfish compared on a high-end, mid-end and low-end system. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8176 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [04:54] hmm - [04:54] I'm about to go set up an edubuntu server for someone (mainly for moodle) [04:54] is there anything you think we should have web facing atm? [04:55] spacey: more up to date. high-end now benched in both 64bit and 32bit mode http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181 : the results are interesting. [04:55] well, anything you'd recommend [04:56] Mez: I'm not sure I understand your question [04:57] Yagisan: I've been asked to set up a moodle server for a school. [04:57] I'm going to be basing it around edubuntu [04:58] Yagisan: how do you perform that test [04:58] Mez: ok. I have no experience with moodle, but I can help you with securing the server once moodle is installed [04:58] Mez, just apt-get install moodle and answer the debconf questions ... [04:58] spacey: openssl bench des aes blowfish [04:59] Yagisan: bench is an invalid command here [04:59] spacey oops. speed [05:00] spacey: "openssl speed" will bench the lot. "openssl speed x y z" will bench x y and z only [05:00] Yagisan: is your benchmark 32bit or 64bit? (the amd64 one) [05:01] ogra: I've set them up a moodle server before ... but they wiped it and used the windows version [05:01] spacey: top is 64bit, second is 32bit. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8181 [05:01] Mez, and why did they ask you to do it again ? [05:01] yeah but second is different cpu [05:02] Yagisan: should have no problems securing the server - access is going to be by ssh cert only for anything other than web services (and we're going to hook in a module I made for moodle to allow them to access their network files at home) [05:02] spacey: please check the second pastebin link ;) [05:02] ogra: because they wiped it for something else - it was a test machine - now they want to go production with it :D but - well... they dont want to use windows and they dont relly know mych about linux [05:02] ah, cool [05:03] spacey: isn't it cool that the P2 can almost saturate a fast ethernet link :) [05:04] Yagisan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8183 [05:04] results of my laptop [05:05] which is 32 bit [05:05] spacey: your aes is faster because you have twice the cache. I only have 512kb [05:06] aha [05:07] spacey: but blowfish seems unaffected, and des is slower [05:07] blowfish faster @ 32bit it seems [05:08] spacey: yeah, it's not optimised for 64bit === Yagisan should go to bed. I have an exam in about 5 hours [05:10] night all === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@73-51-89.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:55] hi mhz [05:55] juliux: hey!! [05:56] mhz, your text was great [05:56] we have translate it into german [05:56] juliux: really? Good!! [05:56] is it on a wiki? [05:56] not yet === mhz has not uploaded it in spanish! :) [05:56] but i can add it to the wiki [05:56] juliux: i am glad i could help [05:57] and we have made a dvdcover for breezy and will make one for dapper see here http://www.juliux.de/ubuntu/edubuntudvdcover.png === mhz tabbing [06:01] juliux: i like it [06:01] it wont be expensive to print it [06:01] i have a epson r200 and i think it cost about 20cent [06:01] by 1440 dpi [06:02] nice [06:08] ogra: have you seen hno73 somewhere (channel) ? [06:08] whois responds he is logged but in no channel === scribe63 [n=scribe63@ool-18bc45f8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #edubuntu === hno73 [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [06:23] anyone successfully upgraded schoolbell and scholtool [06:24] mhz: hello? [06:24] scribe63, to what ? there is no update [06:27] schoolbell from 1.2.2-1 to 1.2.3 and schooltool from 0.11.2 to 0.1.3 [06:27] scribe63, they are not yet packaged [06:28] schooltool at least isnt yet [06:29] its waiting for a zope3 upgrade in debian ... [06:29] i know cuz they do not display in synaptic. so i'm trying to see whats the proceedure or what may break if i ugrade fron tarballs or using alien on the rpm packages [06:30] hno73: pong [06:30] hno73: good to see ya [06:30] whois didnt tell me where you were [06:30] :) [06:30] hno73: there are at least 3 things I'd like to discuss with you if possible [06:31] scribe63, simple rule of thumb if you dont want to break your system, dont use aline or rpms [06:31] we'll get an update before release i think [06:31] mhz: ok, one thing at a time :) === hno73 [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [06:33] thanks for that pointer, will try the tarballs. if you know, should i remove the previous packages first to avoid any confilcts [06:33] scribe63, if you care, wait until jinty comes around, he cares for the packages in debian [06:33] hm, gaim on dapper is not 100% stable ... [06:34] scribe63, no idea, i only do the packaging of edubuntu and wouldnt recommend to use tarballs at all .. [06:35] hno73: no worries [06:36] so, hno73, shall i shoot or you go 1st? [06:36] its very unlikely they install in the right locations ... and there is a reson why its not packaged for us yet ... you'll pretty sure also need zope3 from tarballs etc [06:37] mhz: go ahead [06:38] that makes sense, i'll lookout for jinty, the current schooltool duplicate calendar entries i noticed since in november 2005,its been fixed. thats why i want to update [06:39] hno73: /me phone [06:39] ok [06:41] ogra: new to using chat, now sort of realizing how its done. thanks for the pointers i'll wait till the packager packages. [06:43] scribe63, yes, thats the safest method to not break your installation :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === hno73 [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] [07:04] re === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra === Mez|Work [n=mullen@80.249.48.46] has joined #edubuntu [07:29] am just here incase something cocks up with the moodle install :D [07:29] so I can poke you guys and get you to help :D [07:31] moodle? === flint [n=flint@69-173-179-231.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:27] ogra, ollie on the flight 3 disk, how do I get around the chroot issue? [08:29] I guess I will go look on the web site...eh? it is just that you mentioned something about a chroot bug. [08:30] it should work with flight3 i386 ... [08:31] not with ppc ... and i'm not sure about amd64 === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === heno [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === hno73 [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-188.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bruno [n=bruno@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === aralia [n=bruno@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [09:55] hi. I'm new here! === ogra_ibook is now known as ogra === aralia [n=bruno@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === aralia [n=bruno@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === aralia [n=bruno@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === aralia [n=bruno@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-8.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@newsme.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === gand [n=gand@62-101-126-208.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #edubuntu [10:31] I wish to do some videotutorial, Is there a video stream codec for linux x86 that can be viewed inside browser? === EightBall [n=EightBal@cpe-69-202-155-237.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === EightBall [n=EightBal@cpe-69-202-155-237.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-3e3422ce.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [n=alejandr@pc-170-38-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === hno73 [n=henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === dsaa [n=dsaa@210.1.95.21] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur is now known as KDE_boy === antonio_ [n=antonio@194.242.208.141] has joined #edubuntu === KDE_boy is now known as KDE_BOY