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brezelludo: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10 <-- that might help u12:02
vgeglick: yes, im running kdedesktop sharing if that helps?12:03
glickvge, oh, i want an independant session server12:03
brezelvge: what is the problem? :)12:03
ludoI'll check... But that's very strange.. because if I cat smth > /dev/dsp ... this makes noise... so my sound card is perfect. (I first try with oss output...)12:03
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vgebasically mine works like a dream, was just referring to some question12:04
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brezelludo: it depends on which sound server u use...if you use oss in xmms it will block your soundcard12:04
paulvolkhello agian12:04
brezelhey paul12:04
paulvolkUm I was wondering what is the sudo cmd for deleting a file?12:04
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brezelsudo lets you do something as the root user...sudo cant delete files12:05
brezelyou remove files with rm12:05
paulvolkbut the files access is set to root12:05
brezelif the file is owned by root you can remove it with sudo rm12:05
paulvolkok12:05
paulvolkanother question about firefox12:06
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brezelfjellrev1: sry i can't reply ^^12:06
paulvolkthe cusor theme seems not to carry over toin firefox why is that and is it fixable?12:06
ninnghizidha n  ppliation to use a other Screen?12:06
vgeis fixable12:06
ninnghizidhaHow can i tell an application to use another screen?12:07
ninnghizidhai remember something like display 0:012:07
ninnghizidhaor :0 appname12:07
brezelexport DISPLAY=:1.012:07
paulvolkhow would I fix it?12:08
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maverickhi all12:08
vgehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75474.html <-- look monkey89 post12:08
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ninnghizidhabrezel, soundls like a variable ..12:08
brexelit is12:08
maverickanyone know how to run  c++ programe i made.. ( i compiled it) but cant rember command to run it? in konsole?12:09
brexel./command12:09
ninnghizidhawasnt there a switch i could use in front of an app-name?12:09
ludoGRRR... I can read mp3 & wav, if I launch xmms from konsole... But not if launched via KDE...12:09
brexel:D12:09
brexelludo: that's really odd12:09
maverickbrex was that to me?12:10
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ludoI think kde launches artsdsp xmms12:11
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brexelmaverick: yes. just use ./programname to start a freshly compiled program12:11
maverickhmm cheers mate12:11
maverickballs12:11
brexelludo then you should set xmms to use arts12:12
maverickprograme dnt work :(12:12
paulvolkyou must have something messed in the program maby12:14
paulvolkmight be a problem???  :|12:14
maverickyep12:14
maverickdamn hate c++12:14
ludodidn't help for XMMS, but now amarok works...12:14
ludo'll restart everything...12:14
ludoGreat thanks.12:15
brexelyw :)12:15
ludoProbably a missing package...12:15
brexeli think xmms isnt using arts or something12:15
ludowas just missing mpeglib ...12:15
brexelyou'll figure it out ^^12:15
ludoIn xmms, you can choose...12:15
ludoI installed the xmms-arts12:15
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brexelmaybe u need to relogin to kde to make artsd recognize the new library12:16
brexelthe gstreamer engine seems to be better than artsd12:16
brexelhttp://bash.org/?quote=608100 :D12:17
hawkinghow can i add /usr/local/bin to my PATH?12:19
brexelexport PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin in .bashrc or in .bash_profile12:19
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paulvolkHello12:20
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paulvolkI am thinking about switching my other Linux Box to Kubuntu but I am not sure what do you people think?12:21
ludoI've never been a fan of artsd... but it's the kde default... so..12:21
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maverickdo it :P12:22
paulvolkchange?12:22
maverickyeah12:22
frank23anyone know where I could find logs for samba? /var/log/samba.log doesn't exist12:22
paulvolkbut I am not sure. Why should I switch?12:23
ludooups.. /var/log/samba/ or samba312:23
opiusomebody know an openldap chat?12:23
paulvolkWhat does Kubuntu have that Suse doesn'?12:23
maverickhmm12:23
opiuWELL?12:23
maverickdnt know?12:24
mavericki like kubuntu12:24
opiuanybody know openldap?12:24
bimberipaulvolk: great looking people in its IRC channel! :P12:24
mavericklooks like a no opiu12:24
paulvolkok12:24
brexelubuntu has .deb :)12:25
bimberipaulvolk: seriously though - try both and you decide12:25
hawking I was trying to compile nessus from source and as compiling nessus-core I got this error  comm.c: In function comm_update_ui: comm.c:99: error: label at end of compound statement can someone help?12:25
Nomad411hey all.. I've had a very flaky system since I upped to KDE 3.5.1, many apps would cause a segmentation fault, but yesterday I found a fix (temporary?) while googling..  All I had to do was a 'touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap' and now those apps work..  Anyone know more abotu this ?12:25
paulvolkI will12:25
bimberipaulvolk:12:25
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Nomad411The faulting apps would look for this and not find it.12:26
paulvolkya?12:26
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bimberipaulvolk: (sorry, bumped the enter key)12:26
paulvolkthat is ok but did you want to say something to me?12:27
Nomad411the explanation is here: http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com/blog/?p=182  if it can help someone else12:28
bimberipaulvolk: not really much more I can say.  I can only express opinion - which you should be skeptical of anyway :)12:28
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paulvolkwhat is your opinion?12:29
bimberipaulvolk: (k)ubuntu is great, has a teriffic community, and has all of the advantages of being a debian-based distribution (in particular the package management system)12:30
brexelnicely put :)12:30
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brexeli just got into this irc channel 2 days ago and i like it very much already12:31
brexel:D12:31
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paulvolkalthough suse has Yast12:31
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bimberipaulvolk: i have to admit i don't know yast well - i've seen it pilloried but only in places that are probably biased (such as #*ubuntu)12:32
brexelwhat i dislike about it is that it automagically restores stuff that i change by hand :)12:32
brexelif you don't change anything by hand and always use yast it might work great though12:33
paulvolklol Ya12:33
maverickin adept pressing full upgrade a bad idea?12:33
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tiberiusIs anyone here running dual monitors?12:35
paulvolkwhy is that a bad idea?12:36
tiberiusno12:36
brexeltiberius: yes12:36
tiberiusI just can't figure out for the life of me how to do it right12:36
tiberiusWhat vid card are you using brexel?12:36
brexelnvidia12:36
paulvolkbetter then downloading like 3 gigs from novel to upgrade12:36
brexelgf6800 xt12:36
paulvolklol12:36
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maverickoh12:36
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mavericknice card brex12:36
tiberiushmm, i'm on a 9800pro, and all the drivers/tuts I read and go through don't work for me12:37
paulvolkwhat does the full upgrade thing do?12:37
brexelit's ok :)12:37
maverickisnt thgat the 300+ one?12:37
maverick12:37
brexeldunno what's that in euro?12:37
brexeltiberius: sorry i have no idea about ati cards12:37
tiberiuslike 170 i think12:37
brexelalways avoided them because they are difficult under linux12:37
tiberiusyeah, thats cool, thanks anyway12:37
tiberiusi just got into linux12:37
tiberiusits frustrating so far12:38
mavericksame12:38
paulvolkcan anyone tell me what the full upgrade button on adept is for?12:38
tiberiusbut i don't have teh experience, so i'm gonna keep screwin round with it12:38
paulvolklol ya I know12:38
brexeltiberius: i can post you my xorg.conf if you want but i doubt it will help12:38
tiberiusi do too12:38
maverickpaul ill tell ya in minute i just pressed it :P12:38
tiberiusbrexel: my problem so far is getting the drivers to install properly12:38
maverickthink just upgrades those which can be?12:38
paulvolkoh ok12:39
brexeltiberius: what is going wrong?12:39
paulvolkum for like a change in version can I download it through adept? or do I do it through CD?12:39
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maverickthrought adept i think?12:40
paulvolklike Kubuntu 5.xx to 6.xx12:40
paulvolkok12:40
paulvolkanyone know how it is done?12:40
maverickhmm not sure on core stuff?12:40
paulvolkI was just curious12:40
brexelpaulvolk: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:41
tiberiusbrex: i follow the tutorials i've been reading, and do everything exactly as they say, but when i restart x-server, it fails and i'm left at terminal12:41
maverickjsut curious anyone d/l movies? and got those rar .001 files?12:41
tiberiusi'm good at fixing it, just not getting it to work12:41
tiberiusyeah12:41
tiberiusmaverick: did you get a bunch of .00x files?12:41
brexeltiberius: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?12:41
frank23maverick: a rar split in parts12:41
maverickyeah12:41
mavericki normaly use winrar12:41
brexelmaverick: rar x filename.rar12:42
tiberiusmaverick: just extract one of them, and the rest should extract themselves12:42
maverickbut it wont open in ark12:42
brexelark sucks12:42
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maverickanyhting else io can use?12:42
brexelfor rar files12:42
brexelrar x filenamr.rar :)12:42
maverickhmm12:42
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tiberiusbrexel: i'll tell ya once i get gedit installed :P12:43
brexel:D12:43
mavericktiberious i cant opne one of dem thought12:43
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slickszNEW! Automated web installation! Click [      http://here.on.nimp.org ]  to install Ubuntu Linux 5.10 on your PC.  Help us beta test this new installation method!12:45
maverickspam?12:45
brexellol what a poor try12:45
maverick:P12:45
maverickleft soo early12:46
maverickahh damnit12:46
maverickmy mounted windows has broken12:46
Zappaanyone run Kylix 3 on ubuntu?12:47
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tiberiusbrexel: well it doesn't say anything at the moment seeing as I haven't tried to reinstall them after the full reinstall of kubuntu12:48
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brexelwhat?12:49
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brexelonce the xserver starts up it should write info to that file12:49
tiberius...well maybe the directory path is wrong12:49
Zappa/usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference12:49
Zappathat's the error I get12:49
brexelso that you can find out why it doesn't start12:49
brexelZappa: seems your libc version is too new or too old12:50
Zappai'm assuming it means my glibc version is not compatible12:50
brexelZappa: check which version it wants, compile that version to some customized place and export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to that place before starting that program :)12:50
meebohey can any one tell me where i can those desktop widgets that show you your cpu speed etc, and mac like doc bars?12:51
MuhKuhdoes anyone how to get on kde-i18n-3.5.1 with breezy?12:51
robotgeekmeebo: superkaramba, i am guessing12:51
Zappabrexel: it's annoying though - i'm just using the latest breezy version12:51
robotgeekwww.kde-look.org12:51
brexeldeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main12:51
brexelZappa: is kylix a kubuntu package?12:52
Zappanah12:52
MuhKuhi have that. but still kde-i18n.xy-3.4.312:52
brexelZappa: i assume the libc version is too new12:52
meeboive been on kde-look but i cant find any dock bars, widgets :|12:52
Zappabrexel: it's just a cd with an installer (shell script) on12:52
Zappais 3.5.1 pretty stable?12:52
brexelyes :)12:53
Zappamany changes from 3.5?12:53
MuhKuhonly fixes afaik12:53
brexelZappa: @kylix you must find out which libc version it requires...otherwise you probably won't get it to work12:53
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MuhKuhbrexel: i have "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main" in my sources list but the localization files are still the old version12:54
Zappabrexel: maybe there's a kylix update - i'll have a look12:55
brexelMuhKuh: do you also have the old line in sources.list?12:55
brexel(the one of 3.4.x?12:55
brexel)12:55
MuhKuhno12:55
MuhKuhi installed whole kde 3.5.1 from that source, except the localization files12:55
MuhKuhcant find them12:56
brexeloh what do you know, those packages haven't been updated12:56
brexelwhy on earth did u do that? :D12:56
brexellike breaking apt? :)12:56
MuhKuhhuh?12:57
brexel^^12:57
MuhKuhwhat are you talking about?12:57
brexelwell iif 3.5.1 was just a bugfix release these packages might not have changed12:57
MuhKuhsince 3.5?12:57
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brexelmhm12:57
MuhKuhhmm, for dapper there are 3.5.1 kde-i18n files12:58
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feistelhi01:13
feistelI try to play my video with Kaffeine, but nothing is showed01:13
feistelhow I can install the codecs?01:13
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fatejudgerdoes CUPS work again?01:18
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enfactthe new font that breezy uses is WAY better than what hoary did01:24
enfactkudos on that switch01:24
enfacti just said kudos....01:24
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fatejudgerenfact: yeah, we heard you01:25
fatejudgerenfact: Breezy is old news01:25
enfactsorry, i'm totally down with dapper your l33tness01:26
enfactand i was surprised that i used kudos, wasnt itching for a comment01:26
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jjesseusing konq what is the term for things like system:/ fish:/ etc01:37
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noaHI01:44
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Nomad411!konqueror01:53
ubotuhmm... konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org01:53
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orvillehow come I can't change the time format (utc/localtime) from kubuntu's version of KDE?02:15
orvillemy time format is set to UTC which I don't want.02:16
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orvilleand there's no way to change it... except the kdecontrol module, which doesn't do it in kubuntu...02:17
brexelvim /etc/default/rcS02:17
jjesse right click on the click and select change date/time02:18
jjesseworks for me02:18
orvillebrexel: thanks but that not going to automatically change the time _now_02:18
jung_cat02:18
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brexelntpdate02:18
orvillejjesse: if you mean "Adjust Date and Time..." tell  me how you change from UTC to locatime please.02:19
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brexelorville: vim /etc/default/rcS02:19
brexel^^02:19
orvillebrexel: i'm there now. but jjesse seems to know a way to get this to work in the KDE GUI so i want to hear this.02:20
jjessehold on02:20
mister_robotobrexel: whast uses that variable?02:20
brexelorville: suit yourself. it won't work02:21
brexelmister_roboto: what do you mean?02:21
jjesseyou can't select the time zone that you are in from the list?02:21
orvillebrexel: i know that. i've tried. but jjesse is telling me it will you see.02:21
mister_robotobrexel: the UTC variable in rcS02:21
orvilleI want him to find the out too :-)02:21
jjessei can either choose Eastern/New York or UTC02:21
orvillejjesse: have you tried?02:21
brexelmister_roboto: it is used by a script called hwclock.sh in /etc/init.d02:22
jjesseis that what you are talking about?02:22
orvillejjesse: i'll show you a screenshot02:22
mister_robotobrexel: since i'm too damned lazy to grep!02:22
mister_roboto;)02:22
brexel^^02:22
brexelnevermind02:22
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orvillejjesse: i know there's supposed to be a dropdown box there. but i don't see it here.02:23
sampanorville, sounds like you have a fresh install of breezy -- i had this same problem with the clock when i first installed.  you're having trouble changing it, i suspect, because you haven't updated.  the original release had an "admin mode" bug that prevented changing the time zone.  if you update your system (esp. the kdebase package iirc) it'll work02:26
orvillejjesse: uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/snapshot1.png02:26
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orvillesampan: ah perfect. I really wanted to see if this was actually a bug to report it :-)02:26
sampanorville, lol ... :D  it was MADDENINGLY frustrating for me -- had to manually stop/start the hw clock and stuff -- and then that caused other problems02:27
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orvillesampan: ooch.02:30
brexellol02:30
brexeltoday is the 7th right?02:30
brexeli had 45 GB traffic this month already XD02:30
brexel46.3 actually :D02:30
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jjesseorville: are you on breezy or dapper?02:31
orvillejjesse: dappa02:31
sampanorville  hrmmm if you're on dapper, then none of what i said applies02:31
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orvillesampan: well it seems this same bug exists02:32
orvilleand it is my sworn duty to report this... eventually.02:32
orville:-)02:32
sampanhahahaha02:32
sampani'm sure dapper has a lot of bugs still since it's under heavy dev02:33
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mister_robotosampan: pretty bad for an old bug to reappear though, eh?02:33
orvillei'm UBER new user02:33
brexel:D02:33
orvillepretend that u had umlauts...02:33
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sampanmister_roboto might be a completely new bug though ... i have no idea02:34
sampanorville  the new bug tracker is: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs02:34
orvillesampan: says the same thing on the page "ubuntu bugzilla" just took me to02:34
sampanhahahaha :/02:35
orvillemust be something to that then.02:35
sampanmaybe it's in the process of moving02:35
sampani think i have a bookmark for a page that would give the instructions for manually resetting the hw clock (it's for mepis, but if you add sudo to the commands, it worked for me)02:36
y_o_uanyone: i am having problems tri-booting with xp, server 2003, and kubuntu. server 2003 seems to wipe the mbr and using grub, server 2003 doesnt seem to want to srart. anyone here have any ideas of programs or ideas that could get around something like that? thanks02:36
sampanorville:  http://www.mepis.org/node/7678  fourth or fifth post down, by potatosalad02:37
orvillesampan: that's be shweet02:37
sampanorville  you'll have to use a city that's in your timezone (if it's not the same as on that page), but then it's just a symlink and stop/start the hw clock -- not hard02:38
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orvillewell at least the command line time is right now....02:40
orvilleis there an update indicator thingy for kubuntu?02:42
jjesseadept updater keeps things up to date02:42
orvilleguess i'll finally install that.02:43
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kleptohola02:44
orvillemaniac02:44
kleptoheh02:44
kleptoquestion, i rebooted today and noticed that kernel logging had failed.. i restarted syslogd and it still wont log at all02:45
jung_hi02:47
orvillei see you actually have to be adept in order to use adept.02:48
orvillei think i'll pass :-)02:48
jjesse!taskbar02:48
ubotujjesse: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:48
jjesse!kicker02:48
ubotujjesse: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:48
jjesse!panel02:48
ubotujjesse: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:48
Hobbseeorville: or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:49
orvillei wanna see what the hell i'm upgrading first. in pretty windows no less.02:49
orvilleI'll just stick w/ synaptic.02:50
orvillewhich crashed.02:51
orvillei guess there's just no winning today.02:51
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Hobbseehehe02:53
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NRG88what do i need to install? apache2 or apache2-common?02:55
brexelapache2...common will be selected automatically02:55
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brexeltry apt-cache show apache2 to see the dependencies02:56
s4nthi02:56
NRG88ok, thnx02:58
NRG88last time, i've messed up something, and php wasn't working02:59
NRG88now i want a clean configured apache server, with php and mysql02:59
NRG88what versions shoudl i use? apache2, php5, mysql 4.1?02:59
brexelah i remember :)02:59
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brexeli would use apache2, php4 mysql 4.x03:00
differnet22323question, is there a way I can prevent wifi from connecting to a specific SSID03:00
brexelbut i guess it's a matter of taste03:00
differnet22323it keeps jumping to the neighboors router, that has no internet on it03:00
NRG88ok, i to had some problems with php5 and mysql in win03:00
NRG88then i'll use php 4 :)03:00
NRG88thnx03:00
brexelyw03:00
differnet22323anyone know?03:01
brexelsry03:02
s4ntcheck the /etc/network/interfaces file03:02
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kleptoquestion, i rebooted today and noticed that kernel logging had failed.. i restarted syslogd and it still wont log at all03:03
brexelklepto: hmmmm syslogd and klogd must be started in a particular order...maybe they start in the wrong one03:03
kleptohmm03:03
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kleptoin which order?03:03
brexelnot sure03:03
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brexeljust try :)03:03
kleptohaha03:04
brexelonly 2 ways to find out03:04
s4ntklepto: this might sound stupid but check free disk space03:04
brexels4nt: yea that could be too ^^03:04
kleptoonly 22% used03:04
NRG88i'vr been using linux since yesterday, and man i like kubuntu :)03:05
NRG88i tried suse before... but it's a little harder03:05
brexel~ $ ll /etc/rc2.d/*logd03:05
brexellrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 18 2005-08-06 09:23 /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd -> ../init.d/sysklogd03:05
brexellrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 2005-08-06 09:23 /etc/rc2.d/S11klogd -> ../init.d/klogd03:05
brexelthis is how i have it03:06
NRG88the only problem with debian systems, is that they are internet dependent :?03:06
brexelis that a problem?03:06
brexel:)03:06
NRG88for me it isn't03:06
brexela computer without internet is almost unusable i think03:06
NRG88but what about someone, who doesn't got internet?03:06
brexelhmm03:06
NRG88does the dvd version contain the major librarys?03:07
mister_robotoNRG88: how so? you can always just install off of a cdrom03:07
brexelwhat good is a computer with no networking?03:07
s4ntyou can download the updates and burn them to a cd03:07
kleptoworks now,  i wonder why it won't start at boot03:07
brexelklepto: maybe the order is wrong03:07
brexeldid u check?03:07
s4ntanyone having keyboard mapping issues w/ kde 3.51 on breezy?03:08
kleptohow do i check? i have'nt played in linux since 2.033 kernel03:08
brexelklepto: ll /etc/rc2.d/*logd03:08
brexelklepto: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*logd03:08
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brexelsry ^^03:08
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brexelsyslogd should have a lower number than klogd03:09
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jjesse!applets03:10
ubotujjesse: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:10
kleptosyslog is 18 klogd is 1503:10
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=== NRG88 super, php works, hope mysql doesn't screw it up...
brexelklepto: try this: sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S18syslogd /etc/rc2.d/S11syslogd03:11
brexelwith next reboot it should work03:11
brexelthough i wonder why it is like that in the first place03:11
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brexelNRG88: should work right out of the box ^^03:14
brexelnever had probs mith mysql03:14
brexelapart from the missing features :P03:14
NRG88:)03:15
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NRG88brexel: what do i need to install from the mysql list, to make it work with php?03:16
NRG88mysql-server-4.1?03:16
brexelphp4-mysql mysql-server03:17
NRG88ok, php4-mysql installed, then mysql-server03:17
NRG88shoulf i install mysql-server-4.1 instead?03:17
_bradmysql 5,0 has some nice features in it03:17
brexeli don't know about mysql 5..never tried it03:18
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NRG88i only have mysql-server and mysql-server-4.103:18
_bradi would install it for the stored procedure support alone03:18
brexelmysql-server is a virtual package03:18
NRG88it is only version403:18
brexelit will install whatever is stable right now03:18
NRG88it think i will install 4.103:19
NRG88mysql-common-4.1 already installed03:19
NRG88by default :?03:19
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brexeldunno :)03:19
NRG88_brad: i have messed with apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin, and ended up with nothing working03:20
NRG88and even couldn't uninstall phpmyadmin03:20
_bradthese guys probably know more than me, listen to them instead of me :)03:21
NRG88i don't even have mysql 5 in my repository  :-\03:21
brexelIIRC you f*scked up your apt ^^03:21
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NRG88yea, apt was done03:21
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NRG88i have reinstalled kubuntu 2 hours ago 1 think03:21
NRG88fresh install :)03:21
NRG88no data to lose, only using kubuntu since yesterday03:22
brexelthat's the best way to learn it :)03:22
NRG88yeah :)03:22
_bradi installed it 3 times on saturday03:22
_bradit's goodd that it only takes 20 minutes03:23
NRG88to learn from our mistakes :D03:23
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NRG88apt makes life so easy ;)03:23
brexelif i hadn't moved from debian to ubuntu i would still have the install i made 6 years ago :D03:23
brexeltrue NRG8803:23
_bradi used to use debian03:24
orvillehmmm03:24
tulgaHi! I tried cvs update KDE3 to 4. but configure: error: No GIF library found. howto I install gif library?03:24
orvillei think i can.03:24
orvillei think i can.03:24
brexeltulga: apt-cache search gif library03:24
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NRG88after configuring the webservices, i think i will give it a full upgrade (kernel, KDE, etc)03:25
NRG88i had one problem yesterday with KDE 3.5103:25
NRG88after updating03:25
tulgabrexel: I searched and installed giflib3g, libungif and devs. but not working03:25
NRG88the drives from Storage Media had dissapeared :-\03:25
brexelif you wanna compile something you need to install the *-dev packages03:26
brexelmy guess would be giflib3g-dev03:26
tulgabrexel: yep. I installed it. checking for DGifOpen in -lungif... no03:26
brexellibgd-gif1-dev?03:27
tulgain log: checking for DGifOpen in -lungif... no03:27
brexeloh here it is: libungif4-dev03:27
tulgaI installed libungif4-dev too03:27
tulgaI try libgd-gif1-dev, but Package libgd-gif1-dev has no installation candidate03:28
brexel-lungif means it wants to link against a library called libungif.a or libungif.so03:28
brexelyou might wanna find out which packages provide these files03:29
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brexelKnowerrors: hey i got the same first name as you :)03:30
KnowerrorsAnybody here use dialup modem for net access?03:30
Knowerrorsbrexel: hehe, its not my real name, thats a name from the Simpsons ;)03:31
brexelKnowerrors: tamsarian?03:31
brexelLD03:31
s4ntKnowerrors: no, and i thank god everyday for that ;D03:31
brexel:D03:31
brexel<-- simpsons freax0r03:31
NRG88is it safe to install phpmyadmin? last time i couldn't uninstall it03:32
brexelyes nrg..im sure phpmyadmin didnt break your apt03:32
NRG88ok03:33
brexelits just some php scripts03:33
brexelyou can see what's in the package after installing it with dpkg -L phpmyadmin03:33
Knowerrorss4nt: yeah, wish I had broadband as an option, too far out from city03:34
NRG88hm03:34
NRG88#2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)03:34
brexelis it running?03:35
brexelps afx | grep mysql03:35
NRG8811333 pts/6    S+     0:00          \_ grep mysql03:35
NRG88it's this one?03:35
brexelnot running :)03:35
brexelno that is the grep process :)03:35
brexel /etc/init.d/mysql start03:35
NRG88:)03:36
NRG88thnx03:36
brexelyw03:36
s4ntKnowerrors: if it helps, i used to use kppp (but that was a long time ago)03:36
dr_wuKnowerrors- wvdial works well too..03:36
NRG88working :)03:37
KnowerrorsI already use kppp, Im connected right now with it03:37
Knowerrorsmy problem is, I only have one phone line03:37
brexelgreat NRG88 :) grats03:38
Knowerrorsand have call waiting, and I need to setup kppp so that it disconnects asap when I get a call03:38
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NRG88so, when i upgrade to KDE 3.51, the drives dissapear from Storage Media, and only the Floppy Drive remains03:39
NRG88how do i make them appear there again?03:40
freeflyinganyone use dapper on ppc now03:40
tulgafreeflying: I am using dapper 203:46
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freeflyingtulga: how about it now ? and have u upgraded it up-to-date ?03:46
tulgafreeflying: dapper 2 bad. it is kubuntu, then I not uptodate, I only testing03:47
tulgadapper 2 is not good now. I don;t use 3.03:47
freeflyingtulga: u may try upgrade it .03:48
tulgamy connection very slow :D03:48
freeflyingtulga: :)03:48
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tulgaI haven't package libgd-gif1-dev. where I find libgd-gif1-dev for dapper?03:58
NRG88damn, i have installed php and mysql, phpmyadmin working, but can't use mysql_connect()03:59
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Brydennthis may not be the channel to ask but i'm having a hell of a time trying to install a "theme" for kubuntu04:01
Brydenncan anyone help me with that?04:02
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freeflyingtulga: may u give more detail about this package04:05
tulgafreeflying: I updating kde 3 to 4. config require GIF library04:05
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freeflyingtulga: you compile kde4 from svn ?04:09
tulgayep04:10
freeflyingtulga: seems u'd build this package manually04:12
tulgayep04:12
tulgahttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE3To404:12
freeflyingtulga: go to kubuntu-devel,someone may work on kde404:17
tulgatnx04:18
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joseanyone knows how to activate 3d acceleration for a S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 04:18
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joseanyone knows how to activate 3d acceleration for a S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 04:22
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unix_infidelcan anyone help me out there, trying to use cpufreqd with cpufreq-utils and i've set the governor to userspace and set the minimum frequency to 600mhz, but sometimes itll automatically change governors on its own and go to performance.04:23
unix_infidelwhich brings it back to the max freq of 1.7ghz.04:23
unix_infidelis there a reason for that, or anyway i can prevent it from doing that ,is the daemon somehow restarting/04:23
unix_infidelanyone?04:24
_bradi am trying to install citrix on kubuntu.  The problem is that there is a missing library libXm.so.3.  How do I get that library installed?04:29
_bradwhen I do and ldd is shows me that the library is missing, which is how I know04:30
Snake__Can someone help me? I cant get openoffice to start up04:36
beefsprocketSnake__: try running from a console and see what it outputs04:37
Snake__beefsprocket: heh, it just now started up on my 9th try04:37
_bradi think that openmotif is not installed and is the problem04:37
Snake__Thanks for the help tho :)04:37
josecan anyone help me?04:37
beefsprocketSnake__: I have that happen all the some, takes two or three tries to open something04:37
beefsprocketand then you have 3 windows that look like they are going to open04:38
beefsprocketand only 1 does in the end04:38
Snake__I wonder why that is04:38
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beefsprocketI'm sure if you looked hard enough something would pop out04:38
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s4nt_brad: i had the same problem, you are missing a library04:41
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_brads4nt: yes, i know04:43
_bradbut I don't know how to install that linrary04:43
unix_infidelhow do i disable cron from starting at boot04:43
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_bradi looked with adept as well as apt and neither seems to have the package or library I need04:44
rich0rdwhich one?04:45
unix_infidelanyone? how would i go about disabling services that start at boot?04:45
unix_infidelfor instance cron.04:45
unix_infidelcrond*04:45
rich0rduse KSysV04:45
rich0rd(@unix_infidel)04:46
unix_infidelrich0rd: anything more concrete like a configuration file?04:46
s4nt_brad: try  apt-get install libmotif304:46
sampanunix_infidel  system settings --> system services ... you can go through and disable things there once you login under admin-mode04:46
unix_infideli'm pretty new to ubuntu, i still havent figured out how you guys handle all these mess of services at startup at boot and stuff.04:47
rich0rdunix_infidel: sudo bash && ksysv04:47
_brads4nt: Couldn't find package libmotif304:47
unix_infidelsampan: lol, i'm better with CLI based config, i'm not a big GUI apps that manage my system fo rme.04:47
unix_infidela big fan*04:47
rich0rdunix_infidel: you can edit the services and runlevels with this tool04:47
_brads4nt: the citrix page says: x86 client - requires OpenMotif 2.2.x04:47
_bradso I googled for open motif and I found the source page04:48
_bradaand on this page: http://ftp.motifzone.com/om2.2.4/04:48
sampanunix_infidel  *shrug*  do as you like.  the GUI is there if you need it.04:48
_bradit doesn't show a kubuntu or debian release04:48
s4nt_brad: libmotif3 is the package you need, it contains /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.304:48
unix_infidelsampan: that's all fine and well, but i need a more concrete way of doing things.04:48
unix_infidellike if this were gentoo i'd have rc.conf, what does kubuntu user, or better yet how does debian handle tehis.04:49
s4nt_brad: you need to add universe and multiverse repositories04:49
_bradok04:49
unix_infideli'm checking out the wiki but they dont like to tell me how to disable all the spiffy services they mak eme load up at boot.04:49
rich0rdas i said ksysv is a gui tool04:50
s4ntunix_infidel: if you like gui, on system setting there is a "system services" icon, you can see whats launched on boot there04:50
rich0rddebian uses scripts located in certain directories04:50
unix_infidellol, but how do i configure it otherwise, say i'm NOT in X.04:50
mister_robotounix_infidel: default runlevel is 204:50
rich0rdi think kubuntu follows this philosophy04:50
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mister_robotounix_infidel: just go to rc2.d and disable em04:50
unix_infidelmister_roboto: and they will stay disabled?04:51
s4ntunix_infidel: you have to check on /etc/rc2.d04:51
mister_robotoof course tehy will04:51
mister_robotoif they can't run04:51
s4ntunix_infidel: those scripts are the ones that run on boot04:51
_brads4nt:  i understand the problem, I'll find a repository that has that package04:51
_bradthanks for your help04:51
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unix_infidels4nt: so i would just /etc/rc2.d/S89cron stop?04:52
s4nt_brad: i would send you a PM with the repositories, but i cant since im not a registed user04:52
unix_infideland it wont start at next boot?04:52
mister_robotoor just remove the file (put it in some backup dir)04:52
mister_robotounix_infidel: that's right. that is how the daemons get started upon entering run level 204:53
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s4ntunix_infidel: no, you need to remove the file that starts04:53
mister_robotounix_infidel: I would suggest moving them out of the way rather than just delete them, in case you want to easily put back04:53
rich0rdi just read, that crond is started at all boot levels :) - let's have a look04:53
unix_infidelmister_roboto: i'd just rename them with mv.04:53
mister_robotounix_infidel: the 'S' scripts are for starting, the 'K' scripts are for killing or stopping04:54
rich0rdbut i don't think it's a good idea to supress cron - we all need cron :)04:54
unix_infidelrich0rd: that's just an example04:54
unix_infideldeb based does weird ways of starting stopping daemons.04:54
unix_infidelconfig isnt really intuitive....04:54
s4nt_brad: check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77889.html on how to add repositories04:54
unix_infidellike gentoo or slack.04:54
_brads4nt:  i looked in the sources file and they seem to have some universe repositories commented out04:55
_bradi'm trying them now04:55
mister_robotounix_infidel: there are two types of init styles, sys V and bsd04:55
mister_robotounix_infidel: welcome to sys v04:55
s4ntmister_roboto: :D04:55
_brads4nt:  i'm updating now04:55
_bradstill can't find it04:56
_bradlet me try others04:56
Snake__Can someone verify: KsCD and Kaffine come with KDE 3.5.1?04:56
unix_infidelmister_roboto: honesly wish they were modular. like you could swap out sysv for bsd style.04:56
unix_infidelFeb  6 20:17:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[14526] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)04:57
_brads4nt:  should I comment out these repositories after i install this library?04:57
unix_infidelthat's what caused my cpufreq governor to change, it HAD to be.04:57
mister_robotounix_infidel: it's really not bad once you get used to it.  easy to set up your own runlevels with whatever you feel like running04:57
unix_infidelso i just disabled that from crontab.04:57
s4nt_brad: no, its not necessary04:58
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Xtender_whois04:58
Xtender_hmm04:58
_brads4nt:  I added every repository in the sources file but it still can not find it04:59
s4nt_brad: did you ran apt-get update after uncommenting the repositories?05:00
_bradyes05:00
_bradi'm hunting for more multiverses05:00
Xtender_hi05:01
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Xtender_how do i list the people in this chat?05:01
s4nt_brad: deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:01
pixelfairyXtender_: what irc client are you using?05:02
s4ntdeb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse05:02
Xtender_im using iirc05:02
Xtender_err irssi05:02
pixelfairyXtender_: try /who05:02
Xtender_nope not working05:02
pixelfairynow esc-105:02
pixelfairyor alt-105:02
pixelfairyim using irssi too05:03
HobbseeXtender_: /names05:03
_brads4nt: bam! one of those repositories had it05:03
Xtender_Hobbsee thanks05:03
pixelfairyHobbsee: me like that one05:03
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pixelfairyi used to use who05:03
s4nt_brad: :D05:03
_bradlol it still shows as not found05:04
Xtender_also another quick question05:04
Xtender_how do i properly quit irc through irssi?05:04
_bradi probably need to resinstall citrix/05:04
pixelfairyXtender_: /quit05:04
Xtender_before, i think i just did ctrl+x?05:04
Xtender_or ctrl+c?05:04
Hobbsee:)05:04
Xtender_but when i reconnected again, my previous nick was still connected05:05
pixelfairyXtender_: do you know of screen?05:05
sampanxtender_  what's really cool is if you run your irssi in 'screen' -- you can detach the screen and restart you X server, then reattach the screen session and irssi will still be there!  :D05:05
_brads4nt: I ran this: sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 /usr/lib/libXm.so.305:05
_bradit is found now05:05
Xtender_sorry, i'm new at irc05:05
pixelfairyXtender_: http://pixelfairy.org/quickies/screen.html05:05
Xtender_or linux for that matter05:05
_brads4nt:  it's running now, thanks for your help05:05
s4nt_brad: great, np05:06
pixelfairydont worry about voyer and exibitionist, thats just an example of how cool screen can be05:06
pixelfairythe first sections enough05:06
Xtender_wow seems like a cool prog05:07
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Xtender_so whats the command to quit irc?05:07
pixelfairyXtender_: the command is "/quit"05:07
Xtender_lol05:07
Xtender_simple enough05:07
SoBeIcedTim a long time gentoo user, thinking about installing kubuntu on my laptop05:07
SoBeIcedTwhat makes kubuntu special05:08
pixelfairySoBeIcedT: theres always qemu/vmware if you want to play with it05:08
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pixelfairyeasy install, easy updates, easy packages05:08
pixelfairytwo of those you get wiht gentoo05:08
SoBeIcedTwhat is the packaging system link05:08
SoBeIcedTlike05:08
pixelfairydebian05:09
SoBeIcedTi really like being able to just type emerge whatever05:09
pixelfairyapt-get foo05:09
SoBeIcedTnever used debian05:09
pixelfairyinstead of emerge foo05:09
pixelfairybut its not source05:09
SoBeIcedTno compiling though05:09
pixelfairyits allready compiler05:09
pixelfairyi mean compiled05:09
SoBeIcedTthat sounds like what i want05:09
pixelfairytoo much coffee05:09
pixelfairycant type05:09
SoBeIcedTlol05:09
pixelfairyim trying to rearrange my sleep pattern05:09
SoBeIcedTive only really used gentoo05:09
SoBeIcedTits what i started with05:09
pixelfairywhat are you looking for that you want to try kubuntu?05:10
SoBeIcedTno more compiling05:10
pixelfairyyea05:10
SoBeIcedTtakes too long05:10
pixelfairythat will give that05:10
SoBeIcedTi like everything else about gentoo05:10
pixelfairyand the less effort in install05:10
s4nti also was a gentoo user05:10
SoBeIcedTyeah install is a pain for gentoo05:10
pixelfairyin that case youll probalby like kubuntu05:10
SoBeIcedTive only done it twice05:10
s4ntthe install time got the worst out of me...05:10
SoBeIcedTnever had to reinstall05:10
SoBeIcedTi did a stage 1 the first time05:10
pixelfairyyou can always try stuff in a virtual machine05:11
pixelfairywow!05:11
SoBeIcedTa friend recommended it so that i could use learn05:11
pixelfairyi hope you had distcc going05:11
SoBeIcedTi had never used linux before that05:11
pixelfairyi usually give slackware to learn from05:11
SoBeIcedTit was long week05:11
pixelfairybut thats a prefernce thing05:11
pixelfairyi mean for people who want to learn how it works05:11
pixelfairyor be forced to05:11
pixelfairyi guess gentoo would be that even more so05:11
s4ntthe good thing about kubunto is the auto config and quick updates, the downside compared to gentoo is the lack of optimization and lots of less packages05:11
SoBeIcedTyeah im pretty proficient now i would say... no longer ms dependent05:11
s4nt*kubuntu05:12
SoBeIcedTive not used windows on my desktop in over 2 years05:12
SoBeIcedTless packages?05:12
pixelfairyyea, but its easy to add more repositories05:12
SoBeIcedThere is another thing that ive been wondering05:12
pixelfairydoes checkinstall work in ubuntu?05:12
SoBeIcedTso ive been using gentoo forever, its been "installing" everything for me05:13
SoBeIcedTwhat is the proper usage of the directory tree05:13
s4ntyes, kubuntu has all the "most used" packages, but there are certain stuff that is not on the repositories (and i dont trust the non-official ones)05:13
SoBeIcedTas in what should go in /var05:13
SoBeIcedTin /usr05:13
pixelfairySoBeIcedT: thats changed over the years05:13
pixelfairyman heir on a bsd system05:13
pixelfairythats as close to a standard as youll get05:13
pixelfairy /var was supposed to just be logs and spools and caches05:14
pixelfairybut now people put web pages there?05:14
SoBeIcedTive seen that05:14
pixelfairy /opt used to be like non system05:14
pixelfairylike vendor area05:14
pixelfairyand some distros still do that05:14
pixelfairyslackware keeps changing there mind on putting kde there05:15
pixelfairybut you used to see like /opt/adobe/05:15
SoBeIcedTwould you reccomend kubunu05:15
SoBeIcedTor slackware05:15
SoBeIcedTfor a laptop05:15
pixelfairy/usr/local is obvious05:15
pixelfairyfor what you asked for, kubuntu05:15
SoBeIcedTok thank05:15
SoBeIcedTs05:15
s4ntkubuntu all the way , but i love slack :D05:15
pixelfairyslackware is good in that its easy to do your own packages05:15
SoBeIcedTthere are so many distros its hard to decide what i should use next05:15
rich0rdi am using kubuntu on my laptop05:15
pixelfairyand its kept up pretty well for other stuff05:16
rich0rdworks fine05:16
rich0rddebian on the workstation05:16
pixelfairyubuntu is beutifull on my newer fancy laptop05:16
pixelfairyslackware on my older one05:16
pixelfairyand im running my apps over ssh and screen from a mac05:16
SoBeIcedTdoes the kubuntu installer have a hard disk partition resizer thingy, i am using a toshiba m200 which has windows tablet edition on it, and im not sure that i want to totally remove that05:16
rich0rdpartitioner yes, resize no05:17
pixelfairyi mean the mac is running them, i sit in front of ubuntu or slackware05:17
SoBeIcedTok05:17
SoBeIcedTill use partition magic while the dvd iso is downloading05:17
pixelfairySoBeIcedT: or theres qtparted05:17
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pixelfairyi really like the simplicity of slackware for dedicated purpose machines05:18
pixelfairyif its more general purpose, then slackware becomes more effort05:18
SoBeIcedTwould you say it would be good for a mythtv box05:18
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pixelfairyyea05:18
pixelfairyi would use it for tha05:18
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SoBeIcedTive got an amd 64 in the mail that im going to use for mythtv05:18
pixelfairyim also kinda addicted to gcc :)05:19
SoBeIcedTill try slackware on that05:19
pixelfairyslack is only 32 bit05:19
SoBeIcedTi want to get some exposure to other distros05:19
SoBeIcedToooh05:19
pixelfairybut for mythtv its col05:19
rich0rdi never tried slackware, tried SuSE(6.3), RedHat, Debian, Ubuntu/Kubuntu, Fedora Core05:19
pixelfairySoBeIcedT: get vmware or qemu05:19
pixelfairyqemu is slower but free and more fun05:19
SoBeIcedTwhat are they?05:19
rich0rdand i like debian best (atm)05:19
pixelfairyin some ways05:19
pixelfairyvirtual machine05:19
SoBeIcedTgoogleing05:19
pixelfairyrun linux05:19
SoBeIcedTwikipediaing05:19
pixelfairyqemu.org vmware.com05:19
pixelfairyvmware is better if you want to try the distro as a desktop05:20
pixelfairyits fast and smooth enough to watch movies05:20
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pixelfairyqemu is better for other stuff05:20
pixelfairylike scripting networks05:20
pixelfairyi really need to make a howto on that...05:20
rich0rdnice i didn't know qemu05:21
rich0rdand now for a cold red bull05:23
dbgltlo everyone05:24
SoBeIcedTred bull!05:24
SoBeIcedTim drinking polar orange dry05:24
SoBeIcedTthe best drink out there05:24
rich0rdi am from austria, so i have to drink red bull (local brand)05:25
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rich0rdis there a amarok-gstreamer plugin today05:28
rich0rd(dapper)05:29
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_mathieuHola05:30
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Arcanimus_night all05:31
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SoBeIcedTheres a hypothetical05:33
Xtender_hi05:34
SoBeIcedTi want to install ubuntu on my desktop05:34
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SoBeIcedTand i have gentoo05:34
SoBeIcedTcan i have both use the same configs?05:35
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NamShubits possible to backup your config files05:36
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Lars121hey, does anyone have a HP PSC(xxxx) type/model all-in-one printer running?05:39
mister_robotoLars121 psc2510 here05:41
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Lars121do you remember or reccomend which driver... there are a few for PSC131005:42
bimberiLars121: no, i have an officejet, but this page was good (particularly the 2nd part on hplip) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters?highlight=%28psc%2905:42
Lars121from pool on left window i have HP and HP (HPLIP) libraries05:43
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Lars121both have PSC1310 drivers05:43
Lars121thanks for the link!05:43
bimberiLars121: np :)05:43
zerodniNamShub, yes just cp -i /etc then the path that you want to store05:47
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zerodniNamShub, also make sure you do that as sudo05:48
Brydennbeefsprocket:  check your PM dude :)05:49
zerodniNamShub, i like to keep backups like that work using cron dally and if im in a jam i just edit the fstab to point to the other hardive and i dont even have to copy to get back up and runing05:50
jahonhey guys, how to i go about adding gnome and xfcs to my kubuntu desktop?05:50
pixelfairySoBeIcedT: dont do it05:50
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pixelfairySoBeIcedT: keep them seperate05:50
pixelfairyif you want differnt distros on the same drive, make a data partition05:51
pixelfairyyou dont even want to share /home05:51
gammaanyone have trouble playing .mov files with the kaffeine-mozilla plugin?05:51
pixelfairyits good to keep the data partition seperate from /home anyway for disaster recovery05:51
pixelfairySoBeIcedT: but xorg.conf can be shared except for like the font entries05:52
gammablah i'll just install mplayer+kmplayer05:53
pixelfairygamma: mplayer is good, you might want xine with it, just because that can go full screen05:53
pixelfairyfor some reason mplayer doesnt05:54
pixelfairyon all cards05:54
pixelfairythink its a driver thing05:54
gammamplayer should be able to go fullscreen05:54
gammayea probably driver related05:54
pixelfairybut for web stuff, mplayer05:54
gammai'm just having issues with kaffeine-mozilla crashing stuff05:54
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gammastuff = konqueror05:54
gammaVERY annoying05:54
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pixelfairyanother strange thing, mplayer plays more stuff, but they use the same codecs05:54
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gammayea i don't understand that either05:55
pixelfairygamma: youll have better luck with firefox05:55
gammaand xine was the first to impliment w32 codecs05:55
pixelfairyor mozilla05:55
pixelfairyreally?05:55
gamma<3 khtml/webcore05:55
gammayea05:55
pixelfairyand mplayer is the one famouse for it05:55
pixelfairykhtml is great in the long run. im glad for those working onit05:55
gammayea which confuses me :P05:55
gammakhtml is perfect now imo05:55
gammabetter than gecko05:55
pixelfairyim hoping safari makes the web better for it05:56
gammagecko needs a rewrite05:56
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pixelfairyi thought just parts of gecko05:57
pixelfairyand svg05:57
pixelfairythats another wierd one, theres good implementations already05:57
pixelfairywhy is mozilla doing another?05:57
gammaanother what?05:58
pixelfairyimplementation of svg05:58
gammaoh i think they do that well05:58
jahonthat's odd.  disconnected...05:58
jahonhow do i go about adding gnome and xfcs to my kubuntu desktop?  Any ideas?05:58
pixelfairyjahon: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:59
pixelfairyand gnome-desktop (i think)_05:59
pixelfairymaybe its ubuntu-desktop05:59
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Hobbseeit's ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop05:59
jahonjust a sec, let me add that to my linux notebook06:00
pixelfairya grimior for nix :)06:00
jahonok thanks.06:01
Lars121anyone edit html using wysisyg editor in linux?06:01
jahonpixelfairy:  after it is installed, do i need to run anything else or just logout and reboot?06:01
rich0rdLars121: try quanta06:02
pixelfairyjahon: yea, logout, dont reboot06:02
pixelfairyyou can choose a new desktop in the log in screen06:02
pixelfairyLars121: theres also nvu, but i havent tried either06:03
pixelfairyxhtml + css06:03
Lars121quanta looks nice... i have anxiety issues about changing interfaces because i become less productive and capable in production06:03
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jahonpixelfairy:  KEWL thanks06:04
mshadeis there a way to set mass-file associations... say i want amarok to open all audio formats, rather than clicking each and every mime type..?06:04
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Lars121am proficient in Redmond apps frontpage (sic) and Dreamweaver06:04
pixelfairyLars121: if you do that much web, try looking into xhtml and css06:05
jahonbtw, what is the better installer?  synaptic, adept, or adtitude?06:05
pixelfairytheres a good book called eric myer something06:05
pixelfairydont remmeber06:05
Lars121yes, thanks... already leaning that way06:05
pixelfairysynaptic is what ubuntu mostly uses06:05
pixelfairyand "add programs"06:05
pixelfairywhich just calls synaptic anwyay06:06
gammamuch better <306:06
pixelfairyor just apt-cache search and apt-get install06:06
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pixelfairypersonally i think self contained folders (like rox or app bundles) are the way to go06:06
pixelfairybut thats preference06:07
jahoni'll try rox or app bundles out.06:07
Xtender_hi06:08
Xtender_hi06:08
Xtender_adf06:08
pixelfairyjahon: thats not something ubuntu really does06:08
pixelfairyi guess you could06:08
Xtender_hi06:08
pixelfairyi do it when i write apps for clients06:08
pixelfairyso they dont need installers and stuff06:08
jahoni messed with gnome verserion and got too used to synamptic06:08
jahonplus i don't like the fact that if i want a file, some else has to be removed from the system.06:09
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jahonthen there is the version numbers you have to watch out for...06:09
jahonack.  i can install the hell out of linux.  :)06:10
pixelfairyblender, firefox, openoffice (older versions more) all were fine outside of pakcage systems06:10
pixelfairyand self contained06:10
jahonwith the bash command, right?06:10
pixelfairywe made flightgear self contained too (our gutted version)06:10
pixelfairyjahon: what you mean?06:11
jahonsorry, i can't send msg commands.06:11
jahonmeaning, a tarball06:11
pixelfairyi meant a directory06:12
pixelfairyso it could be distrubted as a tar ball06:12
jahonwhen i go to installing a deb file, it may ask me to remove some other file06:12
pixelfairyoh that06:12
jahonwith tarballs, they don't ask at all.  just install right into the system.06:12
pixelfairylike totem-gstreamer / totem-xine?06:12
pixelfairyyou can only have one06:12
jahonHELL YEAH06:12
pixelfairyjahon: at least you dont redownload when you switch between them06:13
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jahonin gnome, i can't update it without removing something.06:13
pixelfairyunless you clear the apt-cache06:13
jahonoh no06:14
pixelfairybut for the other stuff, that still sucks06:14
jahoni keep all the files i get.06:14
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jahonthat way i don't have to redownload it after i break the system and have to renisntall again, again, and again....06:14
pixelfairyjahon: are you really having to do that?06:15
jahonyeah06:15
pixelfairyi hope you have a small / partition06:15
pixelfairyand a big storage space06:15
jahonmy still learning linux.  when somthing gets jacked up, i'm not that good at fixing it yet.06:15
pixelfairyso you can keep tarballs or diskimages06:15
pixelfairyand restore06:16
pixelfairyoh06:16
pixelfairywell, dd is your friend06:16
jahonoh very small, bout 10gs06:16
pixelfairyok06:16
pixelfairydo you know how to make diskimages?06:16
jahonnot in linux, no.06:16
pixelfairyactually, your probalby better off with tar balls06:16
jahonwho is dd?06:16
pixelfairyman dd06:17
pixelfairyim about to give you the crash course if you want it06:17
pixelfairykeep this for later06:17
jahonsure06:17
pixelfairyas in dont try it now06:17
pixelfairyfirst off, whats your other storage?06:17
jahonthat's why i have notebook for linux.06:17
pixelfairysame system? over the network?06:17
jahonntfs, and a fat32 usb drive06:17
jahonsame system06:18
pixelfairyhow bigs the usb drive?06:18
jahon32006:18
pixelfairygigs?06:18
pixelfairymegs?06:18
jahongigs.06:18
pixelfairycool06:18
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pixelfairydo you have another linux partition or live cd to boot from?06:18
jahonno. i need to get a livecd.06:19
pixelfairythis kind of backup you want to do offline06:19
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jahonreally06:19
pixelfairyknoppix will be easier for this than the ubuntu live cd06:19
pixelfairyany system back up you wnat to do offline06:19
pixelfairybut ubuntu live cd is fine06:19
pixelfairydo you know the device and partiton of your / ?06:20
jahonok.06:20
pixelfairyyou can find out with "mount"06:20
jahonwhat do you mean?  the root?06:20
pixelfairyyea06:20
pixelfairysince ill forget to tell you later, i use / for root and ~ for home06:21
pixelfairyits kinda slang06:21
pixelfairyi mean ~ for your home06:21
jahoni should be able to.  i know kubuntu won't mount my usb drive. but if i look for the it elsewhere, it works.06:21
pixelfairy??06:21
jahonok06:21
pixelfairyit wont?06:21
jahonit's funny like that.06:21
pixelfairyjahon: well look at that later06:22
pixelfairyso whats the root device?06:22
jahonif i plug it in, it give me some error, but it is here.  it wants to mount it under sda1.  but if i look for the NAME of the usb drive, it works.06:22
jahonk06:22
jahon"/"06:22
pixelfairythe device its mounted on06:22
SoBeIcedTdo i want breezy or dapper06:22
HobbseeSoBeIcedT: breezy06:23
jahonyes.06:23
pixelfairy/dev/sda1 is the device for usb06:23
jahonand that don't work.06:23
pixelfairybut its mounted at /media/usbdisk or something06:23
jahonit is blank06:23
jahonyes.06:23
pixelfairytype mount, and msg me the output06:23
jahonk06:23
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jahonjahon@unbuntu:~$ mount06:25
pixelfairyjahon: http://pixelfairy.org/unix_filesystem.html06:25
jahonproc on /proc type proc (rw)06:25
jahonsysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)06:26
jahondevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)06:26
jahontmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)06:26
jahonusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)06:26
jahontmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)06:26
jahon"/dev/sda1 on /media/USBDRIVE type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)06:26
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pixelfairythe irc client probalby skipped it, because it started with /06:27
pixelfairybut the line that starts with / is the one i want06:27
jahoni just notes that...  :)06:27
Hobbsee!tell jahon about pastebin06:27
jahoni need to get my msg working06:27
pixelfairyjahon: /msg someone hello06:27
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pixelfairyjahon: did you get the url i sent you?06:28
jahonthanks06:28
pixelfairyits not really done yet06:28
pixelfairybut kinda tells you06:28
pixelfairyi wrote that for a friend who wanted to ditch windows06:28
jahonthat's what i want to do.  but i can't just up and leave it yet.06:28
jahonthere are still some files that i need to run.  like iconnecthere.06:29
pixelfairyyour not going to erase anything06:29
jahoni got skype to work in 3 days.  that was hell.06:29
jahonoh no.06:29
pixelfairythis is backup06:29
pixelfairyso if you screw up you can go back06:29
jahonok06:30
pixelfairyskype took 3 days?06:30
pixelfairynow im curious06:30
pixelfairywill have to look at that later06:30
jahonwell, i had to stop and go to work to.06:30
pixelfairyoh06:30
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pixelfairystill, when i tried it (on my bosses suse box) it just worked06:30
jahonyes, i have so may questions that need answering, you just don't know.06:30
pixelfairythats what irc is for06:30
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pixelfairyso anyway, boot to knoppix, and it will show you the devices06:31
pixelfairyor ubuntu live06:31
avatarmanI have a question.06:31
pixelfairyand you would mount the usb disk06:31
jahonok, livecd.06:31
pixelfairythen do something like this06:31
jahonok06:31
pixelfairydd if=/dev/hda3 of=/media/usbdisk/myroot.img06:32
pixelfairyif you screw up the boot sector06:32
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pixelfairythen restore from that06:32
pixelfairyand then boot into it in rescue mode06:32
pixelfairyand type grub install /dev/hda06:32
avatarmanWhen the new Kubuntu is released  -  will my 5.10 version just get updated via Adept/apt-get  or will I have to burn a new CD and install all over again?06:32
pixelfairy(or sda if you have sata or scsi)06:32
sampanavatarman  you'll be able to use apt to dist-upgrade06:33
pixelfairyoh yea, to restore just do it backwards06:33
avatarmancool06:33
Stalinavatar there will be an update procedure06:33
avatarmanthanks sampan06:33
sampanavatarman  np :)06:33
pixelfairydd if=/media/usbdisk/something.img of=/dev/hda306:33
pixelfairyyou can also pipe these through gzip for compression06:33
pixelfairyif = input file, of = output file, otherwise dd reads and write std i/o06:34
pixelfairymeaning pips06:34
pixelfairydd if=/dev/hda3 | gzip - > myroot.img06:34
jahonok06:35
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pixelfairyjahon: dont worry about that now06:35
pixelfairyyou can just gzip the image after06:35
pixelfairywait, just realized something06:35
pixelfairyfat32 might have trouble with a 10 gig file06:35
pixelfairycan it handle that?06:35
pixelfairyyou might have to pipe through gzip06:36
pixelfairyor bzip06:36
jahonhow about i keep linux in about 5 gigs?  it doesn't need that much space from what i learned.06:36
pixelfairy5 gigs is fine06:36
pixelfairyif you want to still use windows, make a 5 gig linux partition, a 5 gig windows one, a swap one, and data thats the rest06:37
pixelfairyand make that owned by you in linux06:37
pixelfairyor just mount it by hand yourself when you boot06:37
pixelfairy10 gigs can be more breathing room to experiment06:38
jahonoh yeah.06:38
pixelfairybut you can always resize with qtpartimage06:38
pixelfairyfrom knoppix and probalby the ubuntu live cd06:38
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jahonand what is the better filing system to use?06:38
pixelfairyjahon: for what?06:39
jahonlinux06:39
pixelfairyext3 (the ubuntu default) is fine06:39
pixelfairyext2 can give you better battery life on a laptop, but not by much06:39
pixelfairyreiserfs is really nice06:39
Stalinyes06:39
Stalini use reiserfs06:39
pixelfairyif you want performance and have some extra processing power, go with reiser06:40
pixelfairyif its older, than ext306:40
jahonreiser 3 or 4?06:40
pixelfairyvolumes can be written about choosing a filesystem06:41
jahonno, 4 is still to new...06:41
pixelfairyand at 5-10 gigs, it wont make much differnce06:41
jahonk06:41
pixelfairyjahon: i just realized this irc chat can be confusing. ill make a howto on my web site06:42
pixelfairyif your here in like an hour ill show you the link06:42
pixelfairyotherwise look later in http://pixelfairy.org/quickies06:42
jahonk06:42
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pixelfairyyou might find some cool stuff there anyway, but the wiki documentation page would be more usefull for now06:43
jahonthat and if you don't mine, msg me your im name please.06:43
pixelfairychannel is better06:44
pixelfairysomeone will correct me if i say something stupid06:44
pixelfairyjahon: what irc client do you use?06:44
pixelfairyi just /msged you06:44
jahoni see it06:45
pixelfairyok cool06:45
jahoni use Konversation06:45
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jahonbut i need to register my name to the server06:45
jahontrying to set that up now.06:45
pixelfairyOH06:45
pixelfairyok06:45
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jahonand i'm going to copy and paste this info you gave me.06:46
jahontoo much to write  lol06:46
tulgahi all! I cannot upgrade kde 3 to 4. lt-genshortcutents: cannot connect to X server. howto fix it?06:47
johnfluxtulga: what command are you using to upgrade?06:50
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jahonhey pix, i need to head out, how often do you log into here?06:50
johnfluxtulga: when does it give that error?06:50
tulgaI following that guide: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE3To406:50
tulgakdelib install -> ../kdoctools/genshortcutents -o ../kdoctools/kde-standard-accels.entities06:51
michaelI read that to start the secondlife alpha client I need to run malloc_check=0 first, does that make sense to anyone?  if so please be specific, I'm stuck06:51
tulgajohnflux: "cannot connect to X server" mean kde-devel user haven't X access?06:53
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johnfluxtulga: at the risk of sounding very rude....06:54
johnfluxtulga: don't upgrade if you don't know how to handle such errors :/06:54
johnfluxtulga: kde 4 is very very new06:55
johnfluxtulga: and us developers have difficulty compiling it06:55
tulgajohnflux: this is my testing installation06:55
Tm_Tjohnflux: he's not really upgrading but installind next to kde 3.x I hope06:55
johnfluxtulga: okay fair enough.  is it just looking for fun?06:55
Tm_Ttulga: not much to test, I heard kate almost works06:56
johnfluxTm_T: :)06:56
Tm_Tjohnflux: aye, I need to get kopete compiled in KDE4 but have errors that I do know they're caused by me06:57
Tm_Tjohnflux: looks like I have to install kde4 stuff from scratch 8th time06:57
tulgaTm_T: did you upgraded KDE3to4?06:58
johnfluxTm_T: tell me about it.  I really should get ksysguard working again06:58
Tm_Ttulga: I didn't upgrade but just installed kdelibs4_snapshot and related, and trying to get started to develop Kopete 1.006:59
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Tm_Ttulga: I don't really use anything of it, just try to compile and when tha got done once, then code and try compile again etc07:00
Tm_TI don't think there's anything usable yet really07:00
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tulgako07:01
Tm_Tbreakfast etc, gone ->07:01
tulgaok07:01
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unix_infidelwhat is gonf?07:02
unix_infidelor more specifically gconfd07:02
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crimsunthink of it as a Registry analogue07:06
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unix_infidelcrimsun: well its messing with my cpufreq configs  how can i prevent the daemon from startig up at boot?07:07
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_gtakitohow do I prevent my wifi from connecting to a specific network07:10
_gtakitoit keeps jumping to the neighboors router, which has no internet07:10
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unix_infidelcrimsun: how do i get rid of it?07:13
crimsununix_infidel: kill it07:13
unix_infidelcrimsun: but it will still load up on boot right?07:14
unix_infideloh well just gonna uninstall it.07:14
crimsunwhy is gconf being started for KDE, anyhow?07:16
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unix_infidelcrimsun: i installed bluefish07:25
unix_infidelcrimsun: ill figure out how to disable it from startup later. bluefish only needs the libraries, not the daemon.07:26
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evilhanyone on alive on here?08:01
Hobbseeevilh: quite possibly08:03
evilhthere is life!!!08:03
Hobbseehehe08:03
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evilhno!!!!!!08:03
evilhis there anyway to get the function keys on my laptop to work under linux?08:04
Hobbseeyes, see the keyboard modules in system settings08:04
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evilhi've poked around in there. just has settings for numlock status on type rating things like that08:05
Hobbseewhat make is the laptop?  sometimes' theres a package for it08:08
evilhhp pavilion ze570008:08
Hobbseetry hotkey-setup, i've never tried it, but you might get lucky08:13
evilhyeah was just looking at that one08:14
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divansantanaHello everyone! I am looking for IP scanning software, simply to scan range of IP's and see what is available.Does anyone know any sort of software for Ubuntu??08:23
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Hobbseedivansantana: i'd try searching in adept for that08:25
pixelfairyping08:27
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Stalindivan yes08:35
NikitisHow do I go about installing Kubuntu with a dual boot with windows.  Using two separate drives, 1 dedicated for Kubuntu, and one for windows?08:36
restagneranybody had any luck installing Acrobat Reader 7.0 on Kubuntu?08:36
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evilhguess he didnt get an answer quick enough08:38
MelsenHey everybody... I got a question. I'm about to install a Citrix client... but on Citrix' homepage, it says it requires OpenMotif 2.2.3+08:40
Melsenwhat is that? And does anyone know what the apt package name is08:40
HobbseeMelsen: apt-cache search motif08:40
Melsenabout 400 hits08:40
Melsendamn08:40
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restagnerhas anyone installed Acrobat Reader 7.0?08:42
evilhrestagner: nope don't really need it08:42
Stalin!acrobat08:42
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stalin08:42
Stalin!acroread08:42
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stalin08:42
restagnerubotu: ok, i'll have a look08:42
uboturestagner: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:42
Hobbseerestagner: i did ages ago, not recently but08:43
Hobbseerestagner: apt-cache search acroread08:44
Hobbseeuse the ones you want08:44
pixelfairyevince is nice, but some pdfs really do need adobes acroread08:44
pixelfairyxpdf is nice too08:44
restagnerubotu: Doh! no luck08:44
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, restagner08:44
HobbseeMelsen: you probably need libmotif-dev08:45
Hobbsee!info acroread08:45
ubotuacroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB08:45
evilhwho wants to be stumped?08:46
restagnerubotu: where did you retrieve your information? that's what i'm looking for08:47
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, restagner08:47
Hobbseeevilh: possibly.  is this still about th ekeybindings?08:47
evilhno something else08:47
Hobbseerestagner: as in, how do you add to the bot?08:47
Hobbseeevilh: shoot08:47
BlueDevilrestagner: ubotu is a bot08:47
Tm_THobbsee: *bang!*08:48
restagnerBlueDevil: oops did not know that. thanks.08:48
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Hobbsee!ubotu08:48
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.08:48
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Tm_Tah, lovely08:48
Hobbseehehe08:48
evilhok this is gonna take a while to properly explain but here goes: i have a windows xp pro machine with all my music on it attached to my nice stereo08:48
Hobbseeoh...one of these...08:48
evilhi want to play music on that machine but control the playlist from my linux machine08:49
Tm_Tsamba? ssh?08:49
Hobbseeand you want to play the music over your network share?08:49
evilhis there any way to do this08:49
Hobbseeoh, the other way around...right...08:49
pixelfairyvnc08:49
pixelfairyor set up a service, maybe with a web front end08:49
Tm_Taye08:49
Hobbseeno, the right way around.08:49
pixelfairyor X11 app from cygwin08:49
brydennhey how do i make the menu transparent?08:49
manveru_the_menu_08:50
manveru?08:50
evilhi basically want the music to play on my windows machine (and therefore my stereo) but conrtol it from my linux machine08:50
Stalinenable composite support brydenn08:50
pixelfairyevilh: the answers i gave08:50
Hobbseeah...got no idea, check what the others said08:50
pixelfairyany of those, vnc is easiest08:50
evilhvnc = remote desktop right?08:50
pixelfairytheres probably way from xmms too08:50
pixelfairyyes08:51
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evilhcause ive tried that it dont work08:51
pixelfairythe ms remote desktop wouldnt work08:51
pixelfairyvnc would because it doesnt care about sound08:51
pixelfairywell, maybe ms would work08:51
pixelfairybut vnc really sholdnt care08:51
pixelfairyhow did it not work?08:51
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evilhhow do i set up vnc? im a noob so try to explain it as you would to a 12 year old08:52
pixelfairyget vnc from http://realvnc.com08:52
NikitisI have a IT8211 Raid controller, I need for Kubuntu to recognize it before install, any guides on how to do that?08:52
evilhit tried to play the music on my linux machine which it cant do cause it tried to access direct sound which linux obviously doesnt have08:52
pixelfairythey should have instructions for the server side there08:53
restagner!info acroread08:53
ubotuacroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB08:53
pixelfairyno, linux has ALSA (and oss and esd, and artsd and jack...)08:53
pixelfairybut none of thats important for this08:53
pixelfairyanyway, in ubuntu, the the terminal server client also does vnc08:53
pixelfairydo you know the ip addresses?08:54
NikitisCan anyone tell me how to load up iteraid.o when installing kubuntu?08:54
evilhyeah. im running DHCP so the windows machine is 192.168.1.100 and the linux is 192.168.1.10108:54
pixelfairythen in linux, use 192.168.1.100:0 for the vnc server on windows08:55
pixelfairyi dont know the vnc client in kubuntu08:55
pixelfairyanyone? vnc client in kubuntu?08:56
evilhKrdc i think08:56
pixelfairythere you go08:56
pixelfairyyou probalby wont need the :008:57
pixelfairywhen you connect08:57
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pixelfairyis the network wireless?08:57
evilhno08:57
evilhwired08:57
pixelfairygood08:57
evilhi hate wireless08:57
pixelfairyyou can probably guess why thats a bad idea08:57
evilhi suck at networking and stuff as it is08:58
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NikitisHow do I load up modules when installing kubuntu?08:58
pixelfairyqemu on mac is slow...08:59
pixelfairyat least for knoppix08:59
xtrememodprobe?08:59
Nikitisat the boot: prompt?09:00
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MelsenIs there any software in Kubuntu/linux that allows me to mount a .img or .iso file as an accessible "drive" similar to what Daemon Tools does for windows? Does anyone know?09:01
chakie_workyou can probably mount it using the loopback device09:03
chakie_worki guess there is even some kde tool for it09:03
Xemanth^i had kde service menu once which mounted iso and nrg images09:03
chakie_workhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1157709:03
chakie_workhttp://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=219009:04
chakie_workgoogle sure helps...09:04
Melsenthanks!!!!!09:04
Xemanth^exactly that MountISO i had09:04
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SkrotHi. Where do I set which parameters a module should be loaded with at boot?09:59
SkrotE.g I want ipw2200 to be loaded with led=110:00
mr-russ /etc/modules.conf?10:00
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SkrotIt holds a lot of aliases and stuff.. and it doesn't say anything about ipw220010:01
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oyabinsamahi10:20
oyabinsamai was wondering if there was a way in kubuntu (konqurour) to set it when browsing local filesystem to rather than automatically 'select/open' or 'select/goto dir' when single clicking - make it so u have to double click...10:21
oyabinsamacuz right now 1 single click and something opens even if you didnt' mean to do that10:21
farousoyabinsama, it was in a wierd position in kcontrol10:22
farouslet me check it for you10:22
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farousok in a terminal type kcontrol. or open kde control center from the menu10:24
farousits under peripherals> mouse10:24
oyabinsamaoo10:24
oyabinsamaok thankyous10:24
faroussingle or double click select10:24
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oyabinsamawoohoo10:25
oyabinsamahappy now10:25
farousyw :)10:25
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Tonio_hi all10:36
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Tonio_I'm currently working on the default settings for kde on dapper, and I'd like to launch a little pool...10:37
Tonio_what is your average font size on the desktop ?10:37
Tonio_I personnaly use 8, but I'd liketo know the average size used to set it correctly...10:38
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Tonio_hi lpa10:39
Tonio_jpatrick10:39
jpatrickmorning Tonio_ - how are you today?10:40
Tonio_fine and you ? ready for the membership ?10:40
Tonio_you are presenting to the CC today right ?10:41
jpatrickTonio_: I'm fine (doing homework) - Yep I'm ready :)10:41
Tonio_you'll get my support ;)10:41
chakie_workTonio_: 1010:41
Tonio_jpatrick: may I ask you something ? what is your default font size for kde ? I'd like to get the average to set it correctly in dapper10:42
jpatrickTonio_: thanks :)10:42
jpatricklemme check10:42
Tonio_chakie_work: thx, and your dpi plz ? because sometimes 10 is damn smal depending the dpi10:42
Tonio_in dapper dpi will probably be set to 100 to avoid the font size problem in xorg....10:43
chakie_workTonio_: can't remember straight off (that's my primary display at home)10:43
chakie_work100 i think10:43
Tonio_chakie_work: okay, thanks ;)10:43
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jpatrickTonio_: mine's set on Sans Serif 8 (anti-aliasing)10:43
chakie_worknot sure though :) it can probably be calculated using some pythagoras10:43
Tonio_okay, so for the moment 8 is by far the most choosen10:44
jpatrickTonio_: when my fonts are messed up I restart X10:44
Tonio_that's not surprising, that's the default rendering of windows and osx for example...10:44
Tonio_jpatrick: that's a pain, really, worg makes really strange things on some computers.... but there is a way to avoid that10:45
Tonio_forcing dpi to 100 in kdmrc resolves the problem on any machines I've tried10:45
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smldoes anyone know how to get back your XFCE4 desktop right click menu when using ROX-DESKTOP?10:49
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Tonio_sml: nope, sorry.... only a very few people here are using xfce....10:50
Tonio_sml: /j #xfce snhould be better for that question ;)10:50
jpatrickor #xubuntu10:51
smlthanks guys .. will try .. btw .. i have another question ...10:51
smlcan you boot the live kubuntu to ram?10:52
smllike a TORAM or COPY2RAM option?10:52
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hawkingwhich package should i install for php?11:00
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razvanhello, i'm a first time linux user user. i just installed ubuntu and i ca'nt figure out how to get and install an nVidia11:02
razvandriver11:02
farous!+nivida11:03
ubotufarous: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:03
razvanthanx11:03
farous!+nvida11:03
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous11:03
farous!+nvidia11:03
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:03
farousrazvan, there it is ^ ^11:03
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razvani'm working on it11:05
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razvanit works. i have to restart11:15
farousgood luck11:15
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razvancodecs11:22
razvanvideo codecs11:22
farous!restrictedformats11:23
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:23
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razvan!video codecs11:24
uboturazvan: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:24
farousrazvan, look at the restircted formats links its for audio and dvd11:25
razvank11:25
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kameronmy mouse stopped working out of nowhere, no cursor, clicking does nothing. is there a process or daemon i can kill and relaunch to get things rolling again, so i don't have to restart x?11:32
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jpatrickhello Kamping_Kaiser12:03
Kamping_Kaiserhi jpatrick :)12:03
Kamping_Kaiserwhat's been happening here? not much by the look of it ;/12:05
jpatricknot a lot12:05
Kamping_Kaiser<grin>12:06
Kamping_Kaisernow, a serious question:12:06
Kamping_Kaiserif i use `w` and `who`, and niether show users as being logged on, i should start to worry, right?12:06
farousKamping_Kaiser, that is strange yah12:07
farous!info who12:07
jpatrick:/12:08
Kamping_Kaiseri clean installed this box because i was worried about compromise, and took my home forward... now I'm thiniking that may have been a bad idea12:08
Kamping_Kaiser:/12:08
farous!info coreutils12:08
ubotucoreutils: (The GNU core utilities), section base, is required. Version: 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1028 kB, Installed size: 7536 kB12:08
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Kamping_Kaiserhm.12:10
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Kamping_Kaiser 21:42:12 up 1 day,  1:37,  0 users,  load average: 0.84, 0.65, 0.4712:12
Kamping_Kaiser^ it's kinda scary12:12
Kamping_Kaiser0 users...12:12
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farousKamping_Kaiser, could it be that you are logged in as root. mm it should say 1 user at least12:15
Kamping_Kaiseri don't log in as root :/ I'm a bit cluey (no offence root users)12:15
Kamping_Kaiserand it should say at least 2 - one for Gnome and one for the terminal12:16
farousare you sure you do not have broken packages12:16
farouscoreutils is the package that own who and w12:17
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_tomashi everyone :)12:57
_tomasis there anyone who have time to help me?12:57
_tomasi want to get my Pinnacle PCTV Stereo working in Kubuntu12:58
_tomasit worked perfectly in Mandrake :/12:58
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sihenHello all01:16
sihentell me where can I find themes to change my tool bar on kubuntu?01:16
sihenie the bottom bar, look and feel01:16
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sihenanyone?01:18
edwinhello01:18
edwinanybody home ?01:19
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sihenhello edwin01:20
sihenhows iburst :)01:20
NRG88how can i update to kde 3.51 through adetpt updater?01:21
edwinalas01:21
edwinhi sihen01:21
edwinhowz u ?01:21
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knubbeNRG88: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php01:22
monteirowhich is the best tool to download from a proxy ftp server ?01:22
NRG88thanks01:22
knubbesihen: right-click on it?01:22
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Hobbseeedwin: why the spam?01:24
knubbesihen: right-click on the tool bar?01:24
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edwini didn't do anything01:25
knubbesihen: and choose "customize panel" or whatever its called in english01:25
edwinSystem.out.println("Custom Panel");01:25
NRG88where does adept keep the repository list?01:27
NRG88souces.list?01:27
NRG88i messed it up :(01:27
NRG88found it...01:29
sihenknubbe: im talking about completly changing its look01:30
sihendifferent icons and everything01:30
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knubbeok, im not sure then. the background can be changed there. but you can change KDE's theme, that would probably change the panel too01:35
knubbeSystem settings -> Personal -> Appearence01:36
knubbethere you can change the icons etc.01:36
sihenthanks01:37
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MASH4077does anyone know if there is a kbfx package for kubuntu?01:43
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finite9can someone help??  Im trying to install ATI drivers on amd64 laptop with 15" display (kubuntu breezy) but the window is too long for the screen and there are no scroll bars.  How can I see the bottom of the window??01:46
Hobbseefinite9: hold alt, cilck and drag01:48
Hobbsee!info kbfx01:48
HobbseeMASH4077: there isnt01:48
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MASH4077Hobbsee: are there any issues with compiling in kubuntu?01:49
HobbseeMASH4077: not sure - try it01:50
Hobbseei've never tried compiling kbfx01:50
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MASH4077Hobbsee: is there a program to compile it in kubuntu or just use the terminal?01:51
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Hobbseei think there is, somewhere - but terminal seems easier01:52
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MASH4077Hobbsee: thanks, downloading now and I will give it a go01:54
Hobbsee:)01:54
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howcomesCan anyone help me install the fglrx driver on the 2.6.15ck1 kernel ?01:59
dipnlikhi all. can anyone confirm the package that contains kubuntu default icons? https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/30323 for info02:00
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finite9Hobbsee: thanks for the tip - why does this happen in some apps??02:03
cRoMoHi. I was thinking about how to improve my kde booting performance and found some tips on kde wiki. I am using Dapper and surprisingly /usr/bin/preloadkde doesn't exist here.The script from http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips contains paths that suits some other distro. Anyone got paths set optimized for Debian/Ubuntu? Shouldn't this script be provided in stock, so KUbuntu boots faster?02:03
Hobbseefinite9: because they're stupid.  I'm not sure exactly why :P02:03
finite9one more question--how do i tell if an installed package is 64-bit or not?02:06
Hobbseeer...does it have 64 in the package name?02:07
finite9no...i got vlc from multiverse package but how do i know its 64bit?02:08
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finite9reason i ask is becuase i found a guide for firefox 1.5 install, but its only 32bit so i had to dl ia-32 libs to let 32bit packages run in 64bit env. or something like that, so then i got to thinking...how do i tell if an installed package really is 64bit02:09
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MelsenWhats the difference between an imap account and a disconnected imap account (setting up kmail)02:12
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jpatrickhello kkathman02:19
kkathmanhi there jpatrick :)02:19
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howcomesHow can i increase my gamma? (ATI Control isnt loading for some reason)02:28
dipnlikhow can i confirm if the kubuntu-default-settings package contains the default kubuntu theme? i filed a bug about some of the default icons and need some more info now...02:31
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MelsenAnyone here who has any experience with kmail?02:35
MelsenOr that whole contact module thingie in kubuntu?02:35
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dipnlikMelsen: just ask your question02:37
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tecsis there no automatix like program for detecting printers?02:39
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MelsenWell.. I've noticed that when I set up a imap mail account, it asks me if I want an 'Imap' account, or 'disconnected imap' account.. whats the difference?02:39
MelsenAnd then I get this really annoying error from the program about not being able to open some strange sub folders it creates.02:41
dipnlikMelsen: from what i read, disconnected imap is related to using a Kolab server. I use an IMAP account withoput problems02:41
dipnlikMelsen: try a standard IMAP account, if it works fine and has extra PIM-related folders, just remove them02:42
Melsendipnlik: Whats with all these extra folders it creates then? Desktop, GNUstep, mail and tmp... all these folders gives me error each time it checks for mail02:42
dipnlikwow02:43
dipnliksomething wrong in your config02:43
dipnlikthese folders are from your home directory!02:43
dipnlikbut i don't know how to fix this, unfortunately02:44
MelsenWonder why the hell it makes those02:45
dipnlikif I were you, i'd remove the account in kmail, check the imap account using webmail or something like that to see if it is ok, then readding the account using standard imap02:45
dipnlikMelsen: not sure if it is a bug or something wrong in your config02:46
MelsenHrmm02:46
pmis it true that dupa?02:46
pmis it true that kernel has got dupa?02:47
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_simonhello02:51
_simondoes anybody know automatix?02:51
_simonor can i use the flashplugin with konqueror?02:52
MelsenOhhh... dipnlik : I got this weird thing in my webmail called 'webdisk'.. and there I can see the 4 folders it automatically creates inside the kmail client..02:52
Melsenodd.02:52
dipnlik_simon: automatix is dangerous, use easyubuntu instead02:53
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_simondipnlink: where can i find easyubuntu?02:53
TranceDudeHi I have a question about grub02:54
TranceDudehow can i change the default value of grub: so i mean how can i set grub to boot automatically another os ?02:54
dipnlikMelsen: weird. but you can right click the folder in kmail and exclude it from mail checks, this won't solve the problem but will stop the error from popping02:54
dipnlikTranceDude: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst02:55
_simondipnlink: where can i find easyubuntu?02:55
TranceDudeyes but i'm a newbie02:55
TranceDudewhat exactly do i have to change ?02:56
dipnlikTranceDude: the file is easy to understand and intuitive, IIRC02:56
TranceDudei just want to load my other OS that is already in grub02:56
dipnlik!easyubuntu02:56
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu02:56
_simonthanks02:56
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TranceDudeand what if i change thewrong thing02:57
TranceDudehow can i undo it then?02:57
TranceDudesuppose grub is not working anymore,02:57
TranceDude?02:57
_simondipnlink: i have kubuntu02:57
_simondipnlink: is their any keasykubuntu available02:58
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MelsenAnyone here who successfully have installed a citrix client on linux?02:59
TranceDudeanybody who can explain me03:00
TranceDudewhat i have to change in /boot/grub/menu.lst to switch to my second os?03:00
Nomad411Melsen: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE on top.. Chances are that link of yours is fine for K too03:01
MelsenPardon me?03:01
jpatrickMelsen: sorry, I believe he was talking to _simon03:01
MelsenOh03:02
Melsenno wonder I got confused03:02
dipnlikTranceDude: not sure since i don't mess with grub for a long time, sorry03:02
Nomad411oops, yes sorry..03:02
TranceDudeok03:02
Nomad411Melsen, Tell Simon.. lol  I got to wake up!03:02
dipnlikTranceDude: you could paste your menu.lst in kubuntu.pastebin.com03:02
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TranceDudeah I see, but in most of the cases it's just changing default=0 to default=1 right?03:04
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jjessehow do i change my default editor from vi back to nano?03:05
dipnlikTranceDude: yes, something like that03:06
TranceDudeok thx03:07
TranceDudebut do you have an idea what i can do when i messed up grub? :D03:07
TranceDudei mean: what if grub does not boot anymore, how can i get into my terminal then to edit the file again?03:07
dipnlikTranceDude: well, if you only change the default line, you should be safe, i think03:08
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TranceDudeis there a way i can make a linux boot disk?03:09
TranceDudeand how can i do this is (k)ubuntu?03:09
TranceDudeis = in03:09
NRG88after updating the KDE, the harddrives dissapeared from Storage Media, how can i add them there?03:10
mathiassomeone can tell me when ubuntu will release firefox 1.5 in the backports!?03:10
mathias:P03:10
NRG88mathias: i used automatix to install firefox 1.503:10
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mathiashum... i'll google about this03:11
NRG88just google automatix :)03:12
Tm_Tno03:14
jjesseanyone know hwo to change the default editor in the shell from vi to nano?03:14
Tm_Tno automatix no!03:14
Tm_T!automatix03:14
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.03:14
Tm_T!easyubuntu03:15
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu03:15
jjesse!default editor03:15
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jjesse03:15
Tm_Tcapiche?03:15
Tm_Tjjesse: what about it?03:15
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jjesseTm_T: for some  reason my default editor has changed from nano to vi in the shell03:16
jjessehow do i change it back03:16
lunitikAnyone know if anything extra is required for Webcam support on the MSN protocol via Kopete, or are all codecs etc included in the package?03:16
NRG88can easyubuntu be used on Kubuntu to?03:16
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Tm_TNRG88: ofcourse03:17
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NRG88anyone can help me with the dissapearing harddrives from a Storage Media after updating the KDE?03:18
lunitikAnyone gotten webcam support to work on Kubuntu via Kopete?03:18
Tm_Tlunitik: I do03:18
lunitikTm_T: ahh... its you again  :P03:18
lunitikTm_T: worked right out of the box?03:18
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Tm_Tyes, after I compiled drivers03:18
lunitikTm_T: I don't want to send, just receive... my webcam is USB, and I killed this boxes USB ports somehow while transfering motherboard...03:20
Tm_Tlunitik: ok, then, you do have port 6891 open and forwarded?03:20
lunitikTm_T: I should... yes...03:21
Tm_Thum03:21
Tm_Tand sending client is what?03:21
lunitikMSN Messenger (whatever latest version is)03:21
Tm_Tok03:22
Tm_Tdunno then for sure what it could be, check bugs.kde.org if there's related bug filed03:22
Tm_Tif not, consider track problem down and file bug03:22
lunitikTm_T: alright... thanks03:22
Tm_Tnp03:23
lunitikTm_T: its more likely than not that I messed up forwarding port actually... I'll try inside of router, if that works... then thats likely the issue...03:23
Tm_Tlunitik: allwhat you can do for hunting it down helps a much us, so thank you :)03:23
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=== lunitik wonders why such things work on a Windows box, but its so much more difficult on Linux (with respect to webcam, and direct connecting to machines etc)
lunitikWindows trys to forward automagically?03:27
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kydhey can anyone tell me what the apt-get command is to install the essentials03:28
Tm_Tlunitik: well, might be that that f*cking msn protocol is highly restricted by MS03:28
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Tm_Tkyd: what you mean? apt-get install foo (where foo is packagename you wan't to install) ?03:28
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lunitikkyd: define essentials?03:28
jpatricklunitik: direct connecting to machines ? there's SSH and VNC..03:28
lunitikjpatrick: I meant via messengers....03:29
jpatrickoh right03:29
kydwhen i installed ubuntu someone said in order to be able to 'make' i need to build the essentials and they gave me an apt-get build command03:29
lunitikkyd: apt-get install build-essentials03:29
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kydoh rite lol i missed the - out :) thanks03:29
Tm_Tlunitik: use some open protocol ;)03:29
cRoMoI have no keyboard layouts to choose from, since upgrading to 3.5.1 packages. Is this a known bug? I had no timezones too, but today's update fixed it03:30
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lunitikTm_T: its not as easy as that... friends use other things... rather talk to them on a closed protocol than not at all...03:30
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lunitikTm_T: trying to get about 200 people to download a different client, and get used to it just because its a closed protocol is pretty difficult...03:31
Tm_Tlunitik: true, so don't blame opensource of it, we (community as whole) do our best, if big greedy companies try to restrict users, they do it03:31
Tm_Tlife is ;(03:31
kydok i typed in the apt-get install build-essentials but it says it couldn't find package to build essentials  ??03:31
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lunitikTm_T: I don't blame anyone...03:32
lunitikkyd: meh... without the last s03:32
lunitiksorry03:32
kydlols thanks :) working now03:32
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lunitikkyd: another helpful command... if you're compiling kopete for instance... 'apt-get build-dep kopete' will get you everything it depends for building...03:33
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kydoh rite cheers, didnt know tht03:33
Hamsterare there any problems in running a mixed breezy/dapper environment? Much in the same way under deb you can run a mixed testing/unstable (for example) ?03:35
cRoMono one else has this keyboard layouts bug?03:36
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HamstercRoMo: no, my usual layouts are still here (running 3.5.1)03:37
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cRoMoHamster: maybe I have uninstalled somthing? Damn03:41
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HamstercRoMo: I have no idea sorry... I really don't understand how that whole layouts thing works! What happens if you go into setup and try setting it up again?03:44
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cRoMoI have no layouts to choose from, nothing! that's the problem03:46
cRoMoit is for people with non-standard keyboards, e.g. those having multimedia keys03:47
cRoMoparticurarly for laptop users03:47
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MetaMorfoziS|HUNanybody can give me tips for tweaking my performance?03:48
MetaMorfoziS|HUNabout 3d03:48
MetaMorfoziS|HUNoptimizing drivers etc?03:48
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cRoMoanyone is using aterm or rxvt-unicode with pseudo-transparance?03:53
dipnlik!firefox1.503:54
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:54
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msemtdHi all, I upgraded to Breezy from Hoary yesterday and lost sound in the process. Any ideas?03:57
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msemtdHi all, I upgraded to Breezy from Hoary yesterday and lost sound in the process. I've tried everything I could find in the wiki/forums regarding sound problems. What else can I try?04:05
Tm_Twhat sounds you lost?04:05
Tm_Tnotifications or _all_04:05
msemtdAll sound04:05
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Tm_Tmsemtd: can you try run mpg321 from console=04:06
Tm_T?04:06
msemtdall sound has gone - aplay as root is silent - shall try mpg12304:06
Tm_Tok04:07
Tm_Tit if returns any errors, please tell;)04:07
hatake_kakashianyone happen to know a linux replacement of foobar2000?04:08
hatake_kakashis/linux/linux's04:08
msemtdok, mpg123 complains "Can't open default sound device!"04:08
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: no, but JuK is good04:08
hatake_kakashiTm_T: hmm04:08
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Tm_Tmsemtd: ok, can you try that with sudo ?04:08
msemtdok, sudo mpg123 whatever.mp3 also complains "Can't open default sound device!"04:09
Tm_Theh, now "killall artsd" and retry04:10
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msemtdok, 2 processes killed...04:10
hatake_kakashiTm_T: lol, JuK looks similar to amaroK04:10
Tm_TI'm glad I don't have to use it =)04:10
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: nope, totally different approach04:10
msemtdstill not happy! "Can't open default sound device!"04:11
Tm_T:o04:11
hatake_kakashiTm_T: well, from the UI, it has one of those WMP lookalike interface, where you click just to get to certain places04:11
msemtdmy  /dev/dsp looks ok permissions wise04:11
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msemtd...and I'm a member of audio group04:11
kydhow do i go about setting a firefox icon on my desktop,04:12
hatake_kakashimsemtd: check to see if artsd is under ps listing04:12
hatake_kakashikyd: create a shortcut pointing to it04:12
kydive tried but when i cant find the actual firefox program in /opt/firefox04:12
msemtdyes, artsd keeps coming back04:12
Tm_Tmsemtd: disable it?04:13
msemtdum, howzat?04:13
Tm_Tkcontrol -> sound -> kde sound system04:13
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msemtd...and set it to none?04:13
hatake_kakashikyd: it should be under /usr/bin unless if you build it from source yourself04:13
kydi did04:14
Tm_Tmsemtd: just disable it04:14
hatake_kakashikyd: type file /opt/firefox04:14
kydok i'll try it04:14
Tm_Tmsemtd: there's tickbox "enable KDE Sound system"04:14
msemtdok, disabled and sudo mpg123 is playing but silent04:14
NRG88how can i install easyubuntu04:14
NRG88?04:14
Tm_Tmsemtd: uh, progress04:14
msemtdalsamixer shows all non-muted04:15
Tm_Tmsemtd: check wiring?04:15
Tm_T;)04:15
NRG88i've downloaded http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/EasyUbuntu-lastest.tar.bz204:15
msemtdhehehe - it worked fine yesterday04:15
Tm_Tmsemtd: still, doublecheck04:15
hatake_kakashikyd: actually, the default installation points to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox and that itself is a bash executable script04:15
msemtd...but checking wiring anyhow!04:15
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Tm_Tmsemtd: I lost second speaker yesterday because I had loose contact04:16
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hatake_kakashi!EasyUbuntu04:16
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu04:16
kydhatake_kakashi i installed it myself following an article on digg, it was installed to /opt i think04:16
hatake_kakashikyd: well using the app 'file' it will tell you what it is.. I believe you need to look for the bash executable script04:17
msemtdok, just tried speakers in a different (but identical) machine - boy the volume is high!04:17
hatake_kakashikyd: the bash executable script should contain env variables, etc relevant for firefox I think04:17
kydah i found the bash script, do i link that to the desktop04:17
hatake_kakashikyd: yeah try that first04:18
kydgreat its working thanks04:18
hatake_kakashiTm_T: if you don't use artsd which sound daemon do you use for KDE then? :)04:18
hatake_kakashikyd: np04:18
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: no sound daemon at all04:18
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hatake_kakashiTm_T: eh? so you don't listen to sound, etc?04:19
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: alsa, plug:dmix and alsplayer as notification player04:19
kydnow is there any way to change the icon of it from the gear to the icon in the icons folder04:19
msemtdhmm, headphone jack silent too04:19
Tm_Tkyd: rightclick and configure04:20
MelsenUhmmmm04:20
Tm_Tthere must be big sticker in every monitor saying "try rightclick"04:20
msemtdIf this machine wasn't running samba for the company I'd boot to a knoppix CD to test04:20
msemtd...actually I might try that anyway!04:20
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Mezhmm04:21
Mezdoes anyone know how I can play this: mms://edge.channel4.com/theitcrowd/episode3.wmv in linux?04:21
hatake_kakashimsemtd: if it is running you can check it via lsof| grep samba or lsof| grep smbd04:21
msemtdMez: videolan?04:21
hatake_kakashiMez: you need something like vlc04:21
MelsenHow do you use easyubuntu? I just downloaded and extracted it.. no feature to run/use/install it tho04:21
hatake_kakashi!vlc04:21
ubotuwell, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)04:21
hatake_kakashiMelsen: go check out their channel first04:22
Mezhmm04:22
MezI thought mplayer would play it04:22
Mezobv not04:22
msemtdhatake_kakashi: yup, samba's running ok - plenty of users!04:22
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hatake_kakashimsemtd: well, there ya go.. in fact, smbstatus will tell you more information04:22
NRG88anyone know how to install easyubuntu? noone replies at #easyubuntu :(04:22
msemtdgood tip! smbstatus is rather sweet04:23
Tm_TNRG88: sorry, haven't used it04:23
Melsenhatake_kakashi: Been there done that.. noone answers in there tho.04:23
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Mezhatake_kakashi, it wont open it04:24
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hatake_kakashiMelsen and NRG88: easyubuntu works with ubuntu, why are you asking in the kubuntu channel? if you use kubuntu you may have errors, etc04:25
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MelsenI see.04:25
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NRG88WHAT? they said that easyubuntu works fine with kubuntu04:26
NRG88i have uninstalled automatix, and it took down my kde04:26
Mezhmm04:26
hatake_kakashiNRG88: you could probably try, I never tried it myself, but if something goes wrong, you will have to fix it yourself04:26
Mezlets see if my PSP will play it04:26
Mezif not04:26
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Mezreboot into windows it seems04:26
msemtdok, so no sound - I guess I'll bring the machine up with Knoppix and see if the card was fried!04:27
msemtdbrb :)04:28
hatake_kakashiMez: do you happen to know if fb2k will play what you said above? if so, then you may need to configure it alittle bit to make fb2k work with wine04:29
hatake_kakashiMelsen and NRG88: I'm not going to endorse this but if you still persist. Generally speaking, you need to untar/ungzip the archive, and then you look for README file or something like that04:31
hatake_kakashiMez: or there is that ugly option of installing the required dlls for WMP and use WMP or winamp04:31
NRG88hatake_kakashi: can't find any readmefile04:33
hatake_kakashihmm :S04:33
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hatake_kakashiNRG88: try that .desktop file04:35
hatake_kakashiactually, NRG88 you need python, and you run it through python I think04:36
NRG88KDEInit could not launch 'gksu'.:04:36
NRG88Could not find 'gksu' executable.04:36
NRG88python?04:36
NRG88adept? :)04:36
msemtdHi all, just got back from booting to Knoppix 4.02 to test sound:"Initiating startup sequence"! as expected (and very loud!)04:36
hatake_kakashiits another language.. yeah probably04:36
NRG88python installed, when i try to run it, i get:04:37
NRG88  File "./easyubuntu.py", line 21, in ?04:37
NRG88    import gtk, gtk.glade04:37
NRG88ImportError: No module named gtk04:37
NRG88is it missing something?04:37
Chousukeinstall python-gtk something04:37
hatake_kakashiyes, you need to get those probably, and probably glade04:37
Chousukesearch with apt.04:37
visik7anyone able to play this http://www.105.net/Player04/104_64.asx <- on windows works on linux no way with xine or mplayer04:37
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feistelhi04:38
feistelI have a problem with Kaffeine04:38
feistelI can play Xvid movies04:39
feistelsorry04:39
feistelI can't play Xvid movies04:39
THC4khmm i use but the sounds doesnt work properly ... amarok using alsa doesnt work at all, oss stops alot making wired noises and some of the other gstreamer options just crash amarok or do nothing ... i have a nforce4 card, maybe thats the problem? maybe someone got a similar setup ..04:39
feistelonly can play the sound04:39
feistelperhaps I need xine plugins, don't?04:39
feistelanyone can help me, please?04:39
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NRG88hatake_kakashi: do i need to install glade?04:40
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NRG88python-glade2?04:40
hatake_kakashiNRG88: yeah, you may need to install any missing stuff you may encounter04:41
NRG88ok, working :D04:41
NRG88thnx04:41
hatake_kakashiNRG88: no guarentees if something breaks :P you are on your own.. I wonder who recommended you to use easyubuntu on kubuntu anyway? they are the one who should be helping you lol04:42
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NRG88don't remember but someone from here, saying automatix is not good :)04:43
NRG88and to install easyubuntu instead04:43
jjesse!automatix04:43
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.04:43
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Tm_Thatake_kakashi: why not easyubuntu in kubuntu? same system from installers point of view04:44
NRG88doesn't work04:45
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msemtdok, trying an older kernel: sound works but not under latest Breezy - boy I miss my lugradio!04:45
NRG88when i select the options, and hit ok04:45
hatake_kakashiTm_T: well, I have not seen easyubuntu being referred on kubuntu.. granted the only difference between ubuntu/kubuntu only lies in the wm/de side, however, there maybe some issues with regards to configuration, etc04:46
NRG88looks like i'll be going back to automatix ):-\04:46
hatake_kakashiTm_T: another funny little thing is.. without being too harsh, it looks like easyubuntu is still in its early forms04:47
Tm_Tit is04:47
Tm_TI never tested it04:47
hatake_kakashiTm_T: nor have I04:47
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Tm_Tbut one thing is sure, I recommend it over automatix04:47
MetaMorfoziS!nvidia-tweak04:47
hatake_kakashiand I don't know whats the go with automatix anyway04:47
hatake_kakashi-_-04:47
hatake_kakashiI don't even use it, let alone understand it, except that its bad but its like some sort of automated installer?04:48
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS04:48
Tm_Tyes, badly done one04:48
NRG88i'm new to linux, and can't turn on dma, install nvidia video card drivers... etc04:48
Tm_TNRG88: you can04:49
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Tm_TNRG88: all you need to do is open your mind to learn new things04:49
hatake_kakashiNRG88: for starters man hdparm04:49
MetaMorfoziSNRG88: mi kne?04:49
Tm_Tand give a time for it, learning is good! ;)04:49
MetaMorfoziSnvida driverem mar van04:49
MetaMorfoziSmost tweakelem04:49
MetaMorfoziSazaz szeretnem04:49
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: ok04:50
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: you can also /msg ubotu04:50
Tm_Tif you have problems with it04:50
msemtdhmm, just found something simillar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9360&postcount=404:50
hatake_kakashiTm_T: oh, btw, I got the nvidia drivers to work, but it seems slow lol, I may need to uncomment those previously commented lines as mentioned from the wiki04:50
NRG88hdparm?04:51
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: =)04:51
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: yeah, there's always something to improve ;)04:51
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: but it's part of learning04:51
MetaMorfoziS!splashscreen04:52
Tm_TI just learned today to do deb packages proper way04:52
ubotusplashscreen is probably to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)04:52
hatake_kakashiTm_T: I'm still tempted to try the latest one, the kernel are being built on gcc3.4.5 and they don't have it in the repos.. gcc4.0.1 targets to i486 rather than i686, and ubuntu's 2.6.12 kernel only looks for gcc3.4.. now tell me about these funny things04:52
hatake_kakashi!tell NRG88 hdparm04:52
hatake_kakashi!tell NRG88 about hdparm04:53
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: hum, I'm in dapper ;)04:53
Tm_Tso I sort of got newest automatically ;)04:53
hatake_kakashiNRG88: 'man hdparm' type that in konsole/console and read about it04:53
hatake_kakashiTm_T: newest nvidia kernel or?04:53
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hatake_kakashiMetaMorfoziS: apt-cache search nvidia| less04:54
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: yes, as far I know, newest nvidia drivers04:56
MetaMorfoziSanybody installed the newest nvidia driver on kubuntu?04:56
hatake_kakashiTm_T: which ver have you got then? -_-04:56
MetaMorfoziSi'm downloaded it but it's crashed with alot oferror04:57
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visik7anyone able to play this http://www.105.net/Player04/104_64.asx <- on windows works on linux no way with xine or mplayer04:57
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bcfccan any one tell me how to get/install the xine engine for amarak becuase its not in the resp. list?04:59
Riddell** I need breezy users to test the new koffice05:00
Riddellbcfc: universe05:00
Riddell!universe05:00
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:00
Tm_Thatake_kakashi: 1.0.817805:01
Riddellhmm, easysource.  hmm05:01
bcfcive enabled the universe ones05:01
bcfcbut it dont show up05:01
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hatake_kakashiTm_T: hmm, and that's in dapper's depos?05:02
Tm_Tyes05:02
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hatake_kakashiTm_T: heh, I'll probably give it a try, the latest one whilst on breezy05:03
Tm_Tok05:03
pmhello ubotu05:06
pmterrible weather, isn't it/05:06
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FoodcomanMorning05:09
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imagemakerhi everyone05:19
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VincentMXhi05:20
imagemakerhi VincentMX05:21
VincentMX:D05:21
imagemaker:-)05:21
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imagemakerI joined this cahnnel because I am so stoked at how great my new kubuntu system is05:22
VincentMXi like it a lot05:23
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imagemakeryes, same, I have been looking to say farewell to microsoft for some time now, I finally succeeded :-)05:24
Tm_Tgutentagen05:24
Tm_Twhops05:24
VincentMXand how do you like it so far, imagemaker?05:26
imagemakerah, I love it... thanks to automatix, it is set up to be much better than XP ever was05:27
VincentMX:D05:27
imagemakerit is so good not to be wrestling with antivirus proggies, and spyware05:28
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VincentMXi know05:29
imagemakerI'm still haveing problems mounting my second hdd however05:29
cRoMohttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-February/003621.html - here's my post. Can anyone please tak a look at it and at least confirm same behaviour at yours?05:29
VincentMXi've been using Ubuntu since 4.10. then i just installed kde from apt-get05:30
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imagemakerah yes, fantastic, ubuntu was untried by myself until 2 weeks ago... I had tried debian sarge, fedora, mandrake, suse... ubuntu is just what I was looking at05:32
imagemakerfor05:32
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imagemakersure thing cRoMo05:32
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braddorocan anyone suggest an email client that works from the command line as well as from X and uses the same email store?05:33
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braddoroi want to be able to ssh into my machine from work and get the email but at home I want to be able to use the kde desktop05:34
MNOcan some one tell me how do I get those desktop widgets, like that tell you your CPU temp. etc? thx05:34
imagemakerhave to say you lost me cRoMo, sorry m805:34
jpatrickMNO: superkaramba05:34
jpatrick!info superkaramba05:34
ubotusuperkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.36-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB05:35
MNOlol that means nothing to me :/05:35
cRoMoimagemaker: you mean you don't get my post? Ok, lemme explain it in a more clearly05:35
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MNODo I have to download that superkaramba05:35
imagemakersure thing05:35
jpatrickMNO: if you have universe enabled do: sudo apt-get install superkaramba05:35
MNOok its installed now what? :)05:36
jpatrickrun it05:36
MNOcool thanks05:36
jpatrickand themes can be found at: www.kde-look.org05:37
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cRoMofirst set in options to Show icons on desktop and let the windows draw on wallpaper (Allow programs in desktop). Then grab an urxvt copy and run it with -tr switch. See what's happening. Urxvt's background is supposed to be transparent, but it is not.05:37
cRoMobut if you then (without even closing urxvt) uncheck "Show icons on desktop", press OK, and the check it again and press OK agin, urxvt will become transparent.05:38
cRoMoNow it will be the way it was meant to be from begining.05:39
imagemakerlordy, seems I have things to learn, breezy badger is as complex as I have been able to use so far so far05:39
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imagemakerso I'm sorry I cant enlighten you05:42
imagemakermy beauty sleep beckons however, well after midnight here05:43
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imagemakerbye for now05:43
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lunitikHey... I can't get amarok-xine to play mp3's after installing libmad0... anyone know what else I need?05:44
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lunitikSound itself is working fine...05:44
braddorolunitik I went through that last night, I just kept instlling libraries that looked right intul it worked05:45
lunitikwhat was the one that did it?05:45
braddoroi can't remember which one made it work05:45
braddoroI think it was something mad05:45
lunitikgrrr05:45
braddorogstreamer maybe05:46
braddorosorry I can't be more helpful05:46
lunitikbraddoro: gstreamer0.8-mad?05:46
lunitikbraddoro: that makes no sense though, I'm not using the gstreamer backend...05:46
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SonicHi Guys, anybody know the command for displaying the user group I'm in05:47
braddorolunitik i probably installed somethat were not the right ones05:48
lunitikbraddoro: meh, I just installed libxine1c2 or whatever, and it along with libmad0 have it working...05:49
lunitik*taps multiverse on the head*05:49
braddoroyeah05:53
braddoroi had to do that as well05:53
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mjahello -- is there a command similar to swapinfo in Kubuntu?06:12
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trappistwhat does swapinfo do06:14
mjatrappist: it displays the currently used swap spaces06:14
trappistlooks like an hpux thing06:14
luka74You mean GUI swapinfo? You can use KInfoCenter and its Memory page06:15
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mjathanks -- I'll take a look there06:15
bushitowhat was the patch to reconfigure xorg.conf??06:16
trappistyou can install sysutils and get procinfo, which should give you that info06:16
trappistbushito: patch?06:16
bushitoi mean path.06:16
bushitorout path sorry06:17
trappistbushito: you mean sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?06:17
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bushitono no it was like vim /etc/x11/xorg.conf06:17
bushito>_< i dont rmeember well06:17
trappistcapital x in X1106:17
bushito=O aahh right06:17
maverickhi all06:17
maverickany c++ programers on?06:17
jpatrickmaverick: me06:18
maverickhi patric06:18
maverickcan i pm u a sec?06:18
luka74maverick: I know some c++...06:18
mavericku guys know about threads?06:18
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jpatrick:( No...06:18
maverickand unix system calls?06:18
mavericki jsut made a basic webserver... really basic....06:19
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luka74Khttpd? ;-)06:19
maverick?06:19
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maverickshall i send u the code?06:19
luka74(it is Kubuntu channel afterall ;-)06:20
mavericklol06:20
luka74You can put it in pastebin...06:20
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maverickoky06:20
edisonhi06:20
maverickwats pastebin?06:20
jpatrick!pastebin06:20
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:20
maverickoky cool06:20
maverickill do that06:20
luka74or kubuntu.pastebin.com06:20
edisonplease hamachi for kubuntu06:21
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kydhow do i change a desktop icon to something else?06:24
maverickhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/819306:25
maverickhere u go luka or anyone06:25
maverickheres the code i made06:25
kydanyone06:26
maverickicon?06:26
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kydyeah on the desktop ive got an icon that links to another program but its coming up witht the default gear one06:26
kydand i want to change it to my own06:27
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maverickright click it06:27
maverickgo properties06:27
mavericku see abuittone with a wrench?06:27
mavericka buttont*06:27
maverickclick it06:27
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kydyup k06:27
mavericku see the current icon click it06:27
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kydoh rite thanks :)06:28
mavericknp06:28
maverickjust looked now06:28
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kydalso is there a way to make firefox menu bars/fonts smaller becuase there pretty huge06:29
maverickhmmm06:29
mavericklet me see06:29
kydive tried going to the font settings and changing it lower but it doesnt affect firefox06:29
mavericku tried the firefox settings?06:29
kydno i dont know wher2 look06:29
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welluHi all!06:30
maverickok open firefox06:30
kydk06:30
welluIs the a working mplayer for Breezy somewhere?06:30
maverickgo edit then prefernces06:30
maverickon general look for button font/colours06:31
maverickthat any help?06:31
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maverickmplayer?06:31
_tomasyo, Is there anyone here that have some knowledge in backwards engingeering (if thats the word)?06:31
maverickmovies or music?06:32
muzzlehi all06:32
mavericknope tomas06:32
_tomas:(06:32
mavericku mean reverse enginerring?06:32
kydnope :( theres no font/color in general, but there is in content but that will only affect text on websites not the menus etc06:32
_tomaseah :P06:32
maverickengineering*06:32
welluMainly movies... Kafffeine seems sluggish06:32
_tomasi know06:32
_tomasi want to be able to use my dualphone with skype06:32
muzzleI would like to have gtk+ installed to use for my development of software. How should I do that? I'm new with linux :(06:32
maverickd/l vlc06:32
_tomasabout videos :)06:33
_tomasanyone heard of plugger?06:33
dark_suicwellu, u got kaffeiner-xine engine or still with gstreamer?06:33
dark_suici don't have problems with kaffeine and xine engine06:33
_tomasi do, crashing in konquer :/06:33
_tomasfrom time to time :/06:34
welluI'm using gstreamer as engine...06:34
_tomasand mplayer sucks (you cant runt it in fullscreen (really)06:34
maverickany of the c++ programer on?06:34
dark_suicwellu, install kaffeine-xine engine06:34
dark_suicand then choose "kaffeine" from the engines list in kaffeine06:34
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dark_suicit should work good06:34
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muzzlehmm if I use gcc base.c -o base `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` to compile then it works good06:34
dark_suicmaybe you should need to install w32codecs, although it may not be necessary06:34
trappist_tomas: sure you can06:35
mavericknot sure muzzle06:35
muzzlehow do I delete a file in the command line?06:35
muzzlemaverick: What do you mean?06:35
_tomastrappist: no not really06:35
trappist_tomas: just say zoom=yes in your mplayer config06:35
trappist_tomas: yes really.06:36
_tomasah06:36
luka74maverick: what is the issue with pasted code?06:36
_tomastrappist: thanks ;)06:36
_tomastrappist: do you know how to get rid of all these crashes in konquer when watching videos?06:36
mavericki tried compiling06:36
trappist_tomas: while you're at it use vo=xv so you can do hardware scaling, which helps performance a lot in fullscreen06:36
maverickand i ran it06:36
maverickand it breaks06:36
luka74maverick: I do not see threads, just processes (fork)06:36
trappist_tomas: dunno, I don't use konqueror except occasionally as a file manager06:36
maverickhmm06:37
maverickdoes it run for u?06:37
maverickwithout errors06:37
maverick?06:37
_tomastrappist: do you run opera?06:37
maverickshould acces a site... then return simple errors.. like 404 etc..06:37
maverickrecognise file types?06:37
trappist_tomas: only occasionally to debug or test html rendering issues06:37
welluxine engine seems to work better than gstreamer06:38
_tomastrappist: im very impressed by opera. it doesn't takes much ram and it loads very fast.06:38
trappistyeah it's pretty nice, but there's no adblock for it, and it doesn't support extensions the way firefox does, so I'm still a firefox guy06:38
luka74maverick: just compiled - if SEGV (coredumps)06:39
maverickfirefox seems slow for me06:39
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maverick?06:39
_tomasits way to slow06:39
maverickdnt understand06:39
maverickluka?06:39
kudegaHi sirs. I have a small problem... I have buy a wireless mouse but I don't find where is the file that monitoring the battery state. /proc/.. ??? (sorry for my bad english)06:39
_tomastrappist: do you know any good speech recognition software for kde?06:40
luka74maverick: I have compiled and try to run, but it crashes (coredump) - I am looking into...06:40
trappistyeah firefox is the slowest browser I know of, ie included, but it has the features I want06:40
maverickcheers luka06:40
trappist_tomas: the only speech recognition software for linux that I know of is the ibm stuff, I forget what it's called and I don't think it's free06:40
luka74maverick: did you ever used valgrind - it is great tool for memory problems/coredumps06:40
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mavericknope iam verry nooby at c++06:40
maverickjsut learning it now06:40
maverickand proper noob at unix enviroment06:41
maverickluka can i pm u ?06:41
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trappist_tomas: unless by speech recognition you mean text-to-speech, in which case there's festival06:42
_tomastrappist: there is in fact one good speech recognition software out there. its called perlbox voice or something like that06:44
_tomastrappist: its nice to be able to start programs with your voice :p06:44
_tomastrappist: kinda star trek, computer: pause song :P06:45
_tomastrappist: there is also a debian package for it :)06:46
trappistyeah I have this fantasy about a complete linux-based multimedia system with speech recognition, where I just sit on the couch and say "hazel, play me some beethoven."06:46
_tomas^^06:46
_tomastrappist: i dont think that its such a fantasy06:46
_tomaswe could have a software like that in a couple of months06:46
_tomasif someone put a little bigger effort into it06:47
trappistassuming this perlbox thing doesn't suck, yeah06:47
mavericklol06:47
_tomasit doesnt really06:48
_tomasi mean06:48
_tomasi have made it so i can start a preselect song06:48
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_tomaspause the song (currently playing in amarok)06:48
_tomasunpause the song06:48
_tomasand things like that06:48
trappistsweet06:48
maverickcan it make coffee?06:48
_tomasthere are not really any dictation thing but its quite fine06:49
_tomas^^06:49
_tomasno not yet :P06:49
maverickdamnit06:49
_tomasif its not a hiddeen feature :P06:49
mavericksend it back to beta06:49
_tomasit is a beta :P06:49
_tomasi think :p06:49
_tomashttp://perlbox.org/  if y ou didnt allready know ;)06:49
maverickoky06:50
_tomashttp://perlbox.org/pbtk/ > this i use06:50
trappist1.0 was scheduled to be released a couple of months ago, but... oops :)06:50
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NRG88what do we need katapult for?06:51
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trappistdude katapult is awesome06:51
trappistkatapult singlehandedly converted my gf from windows06:52
NRG88but what can it do?06:52
maverick?06:52
kudegahey guys... plese, can you help me? I have a small problem...06:53
maverick?06:53
trappistlaunch apps, do math, open documents, play your amarok playlist, open bookmarks...06:53
kudegaI have buy a wireless mouse but I don't find where is the file that monitoring the battery state.06:53
trappistkudega: I've never seen a way to monitor the battery state in a wireless mouse, except that the light on mine starts blinking when it gets low06:54
welluKatapult is awesome.. Just press ALT+Space, type few letters from your favorite app and hit Enter.06:54
trappistwellu: or your favorite song, website, document etc.06:54
NRG88doesn't even now what's krusader06:54
NRG88:(06:54
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welluHow do I configure Katapult?06:56
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Riddellwellu: alt-space control-c06:57
NRG88i aint got nothing against katapult, i was just wondering what was it ;)06:57
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nMadhi06:58
kudegatrappist: I use kde and when I connect the mouse in the kcontrol I see the battery state... but it is a bad because the level read is always 71%. There aren't a way to monitoring the mouse battery state... :(06:58
welluRiddell: thanx!06:58
Riddelltrappist: excellent :)06:58
nMadi have a question06:58
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bushito!ati06:58
ubotuati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:58
nMadhow can i connect another server on this program?06:58
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NRG88can anyone tell me how to restore the harddrives in Storage Devices? i can see only my floppy drive there06:58
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NRG88it happens after updating to KDE 3.507:00
_tomasthank you all guys07:01
_tomasi gotta play with some speech recognition :)07:01
_tomastake care07:01
_tomasbye07:01
NRG88bye :)07:01
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NRG88i tried to unmount them, and mount them again, but they don't appear07:02
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derekScan anyone help me make it so postfix delivers mail to me?07:06
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maverickdoes kubuntu07:13
maverickfind usb07:14
maverickharddrives07:14
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maverickauto?07:14
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finite9Hi everyone!  Can someone give tips on howto watch DVDs??  I installed libdvdread3, then libdvdcss2 and I have vlc 0.8.4 on Breezy Kubuntu, but as soon as I try to enter disc source as /dev/hdc or /media/cdrom then vlc reads disc for 2s then dies!!??  What am I doing wrong?07:16
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braddorocan anyone suggest an email client that works from the command line as well as from X and uses the same email store?07:22
braddoroi want to be able to ssh into my machine from work and get the email but at home I want to be able to use the kde desktop07:22
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_w0lfwhat does it take to get kubuntu to either recognice the modem or allow you to use Kppp07:24
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bushito!ati07:31
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:31
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SynchroHi everyone.  I am a real newbie to this whole linux thing, and have just installed Kubuntu on my upstairs computer.  I want to network it to my downstairs computer and I'm using a Netgear WG111T adapter to connect to my downstairs computers router (Netgear DG834GT).  I have the adapter detected and have got the drivers, and it will find my network name, but then stays at 0 signal strength. ...07:41
Synchro...I was just wondering if there was anything I might need to config that might be causing it, and if anyone has any tips on getting good connectivity - before I go out and spend 60 on a repeater or something.  Thanks!07:41
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HeavyDc223has any1 in here gotten a modem to work with kubuntu 5.10?07:52
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tsdgeosHeavyDc223: softmodem or real modem?07:54
dark_suic!easyubuntu07:54
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu07:54
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HeavyDc223real modem, US Robotics 5610, it works in Fedora, USR even has linux drivers07:55
maverickanyone know  how to07:55
HeavyDc223they're in a rpm, tho, & kubuntu doesn't handle rpms07:56
tsdgeosHeavyDc223: don't know drivers for a real modem07:56
tsdgeosjust kppp and bedone07:56
maverickto get a usb hardrrive work on kubuntu?07:56
HeavyDc223I've tried kppp, and it says modem busy\07:57
HeavyDc223I've never gotten any distro but Red Hat to recognize a modem08:01
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leafwany clues on how to install a .deb package manually ?08:05
jpatrickleafw: sudo dpkg -i *.deb08:05
leafwjpatrick : thank you08:05
leafwthe manual for dpkg, though, doesn't make it very clear that -i is for installing08:06
leafwnever mind ... thanks08:06
HeavyDc223can an rpm be converted to a .deb?08:06
leafwyes08:06
leafwuse 'alien'08:06
jpatrick!alien08:06
ubotualien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/08:06
HeavyDc223maybe I can use that to get my modem drivers to work08:07
HeavyDc223get them out of the rpm, and install them in kubuntu08:08
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SirKillalothow do I set the sound recording system on kde?08:17
SirKillalotI cannot use my mic anymore08:17
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SirKillalot/dev/dsp is always in use or something08:17
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SirKillalotor my soundserver is configured wrong, I dont have a clue...08:17
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Massimo91salve a tutti08:38
jpatrickTm_T: ping08:39
Tm_Tyes?08:39
jpatrick^^08:39
Tm_T... =)08:39
Tm_TMassimo91: ciao a tutti08:39
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Massimo91there is anyone who speak italian?08:40
Tm_Thope not08:40
Tm_T!it08:40
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:40
Massimo91thnx08:40
Tm_T] ;=08:40
Massimo91bye08:40
jpatrickTm_T: hehe08:40
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divansantanahello can someone help me im having such trouble with printing on kubuntu breezy kde3.5.108:42
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divansantanahello can someone help me im having such trouble with printing on kubuntu breezy kde3.5.108:46
jpatrickdivansantana: what printing trouble?08:47
xtremewich printer08:47
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elvirolohi all08:49
divansantanahp desktjet 640C via USB or lp0, any ideas? Sits in job queue and just stops :(08:50
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xtremea08:51
elviroloi've got two boxes on a wlan here : a debian sid machine and a kubuntu breezy one ... i've set up NFS (via the KDE interface) on the debian machine in order to share files on the second one ... but when i click on "remote machines" on the ubuntu machine, konqueror crashes08:51
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cslaterHey everyone - wanted to let you know I added Kubuntu support to instalinux.com today08:51
xtremesry no idea08:52
cslaterIf anyone wants to play I also have a blank Virtual Machine at www.instalinux.com/InstalinuxVM.zip08:52
cslaterJust save the install image in the directory as instalinux.iso08:52
cslaterAny feedback on Kubuntu installer would be very welcome08:52
Nomad411divansantana: CUPS issues probably.. I gave up trying with mine, for a while, or I was headed for the mad house.. :)08:52
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divansantana What is with CUPS!?Why is it completely a pain since kde3.5.1? There mus b someway to fix it.Causing huge problems not being able to print. Any ideas?08:54
unholyI have downloaded the kubuntu iso. How do I burn it in k3b so that it is bootable?08:54
cslaterI just do a command line cdrecord...08:54
Nomad411unholy: Burn Image, middle of the menu somwehere08:54
elvirolounholy: just burn it as an normal iso image08:54
elvirolocan anyone help me?08:55
unholycool, thanks Nomad411 / elvirolo.08:55
unholyelvirolo: whats the problem? I just logged in.08:55
cslaterelvirolo - maybe try command line nfs mount first?08:55
Nomad411elvirolo: Strange, for me, Konqueror crashes when I sneeze.. :(08:55
elvirololol08:56
elvirolocslater: ah ... I must RTF for that first :)08:56
elvirolounholy:  i've got two boxes on a wlan here : a debian sid machine and a kubuntu breezy one ... i've set up NFS (via the KDE interface) on the debian machine in order to share files on the second one ... but when i click on "remote machines" on the ubuntu machine, konqueror crashes08:56
unholyoh dear.08:57
cslatershould be just mkdir /tmp/test; mount server:/nfs_dir /tmp/test08:57
cslaterI think08:57
elvirolook thanks08:57
elvirolobrb08:57
cslaterjust be sure you're root08:57
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marsHi09:00
marshow can i change my x server to x.org ?09:00
jpatrickmars: it is in Kubuntu09:00
marswhere?09:00
jpatrickthe default is Xorg09:00
marsreally?09:01
jpatrickyes....09:01
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Xtender_hi09:16
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humboldthow can I add a max osx printer to my linux box or why does the CUPS way not work?09:24
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dark_suicit's mysql 5 installable from any kubuntu repo (without accesing debian ones?)09:29
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cslaterseeing something in a forum about it being on a dapper repo09:32
MuzzleI have a file called image which I want to rename to image.png. How do I do that in the command line?09:36
Muzzlerename ??09:36
cslatermv09:36
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asranielhi. any idea why all the videos i watch under kubuntu stock?09:43
trappistwhy they... stock?09:44
asranieltrappist: well, lag, dont know, every 2 secs there is a stop of.. 0.3 sec09:45
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KnowerrorsTo anyone who is using kde 3.5.1, how can you configure the Storage Media notifications autoaction to simply mount any removeable media, without opening a new Konq window?09:58
stefanohey, how can i run a command when Konversation connects to a server? (i want to auth myself at quakenet)09:58
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Knowerrorsstefano: edit server list, click on the network, edit, click on the server name, edit, then input your username and pass10:00
stefanoi'll have a try, thank you10:01
stefanothere's nothing like that10:01
stefanoonce there is the server password, and then "automatic identification" (or similar, i got a localized version).10:02
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Xtender_do i run nessusd and nessus on the same computer?10:03
Xtender_or can i?10:03
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Xtender_2310:05
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Knowerrorsstefano: server password is what you want...10:06
stefanowhat do you mean?10:06
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Knowerrorsto auto identify10:08
Rayakenhello, i got some problem with my ati 9200 and kubuntu 5.10. "normal" 2D mode is working but i can't get 3D hardware accel to work. tried the radeon and the fglrx driver. can someone help me?10:08
stefanoKnowerrors: well, i registed myself at quakenet, i got a password. what should i enter in the Service-field?10:08
ubijtsaRayaken: try the ati driver?10:08
SbCl3hi, I just upgraded to kde 3.5.1. I'm having one problem, I can't change the keyboard layout to dvorak, which is what it was before. At the login screen dvorak is being used, but after I log in kde uses the qwerty layout. I went in to kcontrol to change it but everything was blank. my xorg file has not been touched10:09
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Rayakentried it and they didnt work. i took the latest drivers the screen just freezes (black). nothing goes. nothing in the logs10:09
ubijtsaSbCl3: I have same problem, it is known by developers and they are working on fixing it10:09
Rayakenno problem when loading the module10:09
Knowerrorsstefano: you mean the server field? put the quakenet server name10:09
stefanono10:10
KnowerrorsI don't have any service field on my konversation10:10
stefanoat the Automati identification (or similar) area, there are two field. one says Service, and the other one says password10:10
Rayakenhttp://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI/fglrx tried that link. no problem with building. but the driver ain't working with 3d enabled.10:10
ubijtsaRayaken: I use a 9200SE and that works fine..10:10
SbCl3ubijtsa: in the mean time, how do i fix it? i can't type with qwerty10:11
Rayakenwhat chipset does your mainboard have?10:11
ubijtsaSbCl3: one moment10:11
Rayakeni got kt40010:11
Knowerrorsstefano: I think you put the server name there, like irc.freenode.net10:11
ubijtsaSbCl3: setxkbmap -option 'ctrl:nocaps' -option 'compose:ralt,rwin,menu' -option 'altwin:super_win' -option 'grp_led:caps' -option 'grp:shift_toggle' 'dvorak,ru'10:11
stefanowell, no. its in the server-preferences10:11
SbCl3ru?10:12
ubijtsaSbCl3: leave off the 'ru' part if you don't need it ;)10:12
SbCl3;)10:12
ubijtsaSbCl3: I tinker with cyrillic from time to time ;)10:12
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ubijtsaRayaken: I was of the impression that fglrx was for the bigger cards, not the 920010:13
SbCl3thanks, i'll run upstairs and see if it works10:13
Rayakenso , do u use the radeon driver?10:13
ubijtsaSbCl3: let me know how you get on10:13
ubijtsaRayaken: ati.. I can mail you my xorg.conf if it'd help10:14
Rayakenyes. mihael (dot) knezevic (at) freenet (dot) de10:14
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ubijtsahmm. correction, it says radeon, but might be of use to you anyway :)10:15
Rayakenyes10:15
SbCl3ubjitsa: worked great, thanks so much10:15
Rayakenafaik if u use ati or radeon doesn't matter. it will take the right one10:15
ubijtsaSbCl3: good stuff :)10:17
ubijtsaRayaken: mail away..10:17
Rayakenthx10:17
ubijtsalet me know when it arrives10:17
Knowerrorsstefano: I don't know what you want then, I just told you how I setup auto identify for irc servers I log onto10:17
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Rayakenallready here10:18
stefanowell, did you notice i want to auth at quakenet, not at freenode?10:18
ubijtsaRayaken: let me know if it helps10:19
Rayakenhmm. nothing special in the conf. i'll try it.10:19
ubijtsayou should see my xorg.conf from work.. ;)10:20
stefanoQuote from Sho_: ""Auto Identify" doesn't work because it's hardcoded to use "identify" but the moronic QuakeNet services want "auth""10:20
Knowerrorsstefano: yeah, then just type irc.quakenet.net, or whatever your server name is in the field10:20
Knowerrorsdon't know then, I tried ;)10:20
trispacestefano: just create a quickbutton (if you're using konversation) and you're done10:21
Rayakenubijtsa2: =))) have to work with windoze at work10:22
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Rayakentill then10:22
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NoairKillerAnybody using kde 3.5.1, I have a couple questions10:29
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NoairKillerIs there a way to enable automount in kde 3.5?10:34
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Rayakenubijtsa2: tried the device section of your conf. and i got 2d working, but no 3d10:38
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ubijtsaRayaken: hmmm10:38
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Rayakenthe xorg log says (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled10:38
Rayakenbut glxinfo says direct rendering: no10:38
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ubijtsaif you have GL loaded, it should work...10:39
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ubijtsathis rings a vague bell somewhere at the back of my mind...10:39
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ubijtsabut I can not remember exactly how to fix it..10:40
Rayakenxdpyinfo says: number of extensions 15 and SGI-GLX, GLX and XFree86-DRI are listed10:40
ubijtsatry glxgears, and see if smooth..10:40
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Rayakensomthing with mtrr?10:40
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Rayakennope. got 188 frames10:40
djznhi!  is there a network traffic applet for KDE?10:40
ubijtsathere was some *obscure* setting somewhere to fix it..10:40
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FoodcomanNoairKiller: yes, what is not automounting?  check your /etc/fstab10:41
Rayakendo i have to enable page flipping to get it working?10:41
mars_What is the best download manager?10:41
NoairKillerFoodcoman: removable media, cds/dvds/usb sticks10:41
ubijtsamaybe, but that does not ring any bells10:41
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spiritzHi, I saw off the web that you can access DAAP hosts with the daap:// kioslave; however when I type daap://whatever, konqueror will look for daap:// in google, am I missing something?10:41
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josesitohey i'm having a problem when booting in kubuntu. "Fatal server error. Caught signal 11. Server Aborting. XIO Fatal error 104"10:42
FoodcomanNoairKiller: mine works by default for most of those, hrrmmmm wonder what is off on yours?10:42
Rayakenubijtsa2: my log http://pastebin.com/54392710:44
NoairKillerFoodcoman: I know it will mount if I have open in new window as default action... but if do nothing is checked, it won't mount, unless I click on the icon10:44
ubijtsaRayaken: I am looking at it now10:44
mars_why azureus doesent work in 5.10?10:45
NoairKillerFoodcoman: what I want is for removable media to mount, w/o konq window10:45
ubijtsaRayaken: tried 16bpp ?10:46
Rayakennope. i'm gonna try it. cu10:46
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ubijtsaok10:46
josesitoplease help?10:47
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FoodcomanNoairKiller: Hrmmm. My laptop with Breezy does exactly the behavior you are asking with CD's DVD's10:50
dark_suici have a problem since i actualiced to kde 3.5.1 with k3b. It doesn't burn cds (it burns dvds though) and gives a mkisofs error10:50
dark_suicany thought about it?10:50
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NoairKillerFoodcoman: what about with usbpendrives?10:52
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NoairKillerFoodcoman: you have kde 3.5 installed right?10:52
visik7anyone here using prelink ?10:52
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djznhi!  is there a network traffic applet for KDE?10:54
visik7knemo10:54
FoodcomanNoairKiller: Look at this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90457.html10:55
FoodcomanNoairKiller: Yes, 3.5.010:55
djznvisik7: thanks, ill take a loook10:55
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NoairKillerFoodcoman: I already removed ivman...10:56
NoairKillerFoodcoman: do you still have it installed?10:57
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FoodcomanNoairKiller: I still have it installed.10:59
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NoairKillerFoodcoman: yeah, so ivman is doing the automounting for you10:59
NoairKillerthat worked fine for me for cds/dvds, but would not work for usbdrives11:00
FoodcomanNoairKiller: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=KDE+automount&btnG=Google+Search11:00
FoodcomanNoairKiller: Testing USB key now.11:01
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FoodcomanNoairKiller: USB key works for me.  Icon on desktop and mounted.11:01
NoairKillerhmm, ivman worked fine for usbkey in kde 3.5.0, when I upgraded to 3.5.1 it stopped working11:03
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NoairKillerFoodcoman: maybe autofs will work11:06
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ubijtsaright, bedtime..11:11
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LeeJunFanne1 know if dapper kubuntu can use cups yet?11:13
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_jonhey im trying to run a counter-strike source server on linux, but i dont know how to open the .bin file11:19
Spudly_jon: what have you tried?11:20
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_jonum11:20
_jonnothing?11:20
_joni double clicked it11:20
Spudly_jon: have you tried simply executing it?11:20
trappisttry sh file.bin11:20
_joni just cant get it to open11:20
trappistor ./file.bin11:20
Spudly_jon: open a terminal and try:  "sh file.bin"11:20
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_jonit says "cannot execute binary file"11:22
Spudlywhat are the perms on the file? (ls -al file.bin)11:22
_jonit is for linux i know it is i downloaded the linux ersion11:22
_joni dont know11:22
Spudlyi just gave you the command to check the perms....11:23
Spudlyplease turn that "I don't know" into a "Let me paste them, hang on..."11:23
_jonone sec plz11:23
_jon-rw-r--r--  1 jon jon 3513408 2006-02-07 14:21 hldsupdatetool.bin11:24
Spudlyok11:24
Spudlyif you run "file file.bin", what comes back?11:24
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_joncommand not found.11:25
Spudlybugger11:25
Spudlyok11:25
Spudlyrun "head file.bin" (that will display the first 10 lines of the file)11:25
trappistack11:25
trappistsudo apt-get install file and try again11:26
_jonok i did that11:26
Spudlybin files have a script at the start11:26
Spudlyand then the last 90% are binary data11:26
trappistSpudly: you're making assumptions about what kind of file this is :)11:26
_joni dont understand11:26
Spudlytrappist: of course, and what i'm trying to do is see if those assumptions are correct11:27
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Spudlytrappist: quick and easy11:28
_jonhttp://storefront.steampowered.com/download/hldsupdatetool.bin11:28
trappistSpudly: unless you're wrong, in which case he'll end up with a garbled terminal and be very sad11:28
_jonthats the link if you need it11:28
_jon  #U[tx11:29
_jon                 ] h%%h%hh %h(%h0%h8%h@hHhPhXh`hhhphxhhhh%11:29
_jon                                                                             hh11:29
_jonuvUu] vUU,WVS}1tRX^DPPRVhXPUu8u11:29
_jon                           1j/P       t&] ct&<ht<11:29
_jon<?t6<Vt#<vuPjvjWP<uSPEjMtUtzt80t-@80t(@80t#@tu@@9Q$S11:29
trappistlike so11:29
Spudlytrappist: he won't end up sad, he can close his terminal and open a new one *shrug*11:29
trappist:)11:29
_jongarbled?11:29
trappistman this is the third thing I've guessed right about in two days.  I need to go buy a lottery ticket.11:30
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trappistPhazeman11:30
Spudlytrappist: that's exactly what i needed to see11:30
_jonso what do i do?11:30
trappist_jon: chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin11:30
Spudly_jon: you could try trappist's suggestion, or chmod 755 file.bin and try and exec again (./file.bin)11:31
Spudlyoh, i see trappist has given away his love of apt-get :P11:31
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_jonok11:31
trappistSpudly: we learned what we wanted to know from head - I just didn't like that way of doing it :)11:31
_jonextracting steam.tar.Z...done11:32
trappist_jon: awesome11:32
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_jon...except11:32
_jonim trying to open it11:32
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_jonwut do you want me to do now that i have the file extract?11:33
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Spudlytrappist: i'd rather screw the terminal & open a new one to solve the prob rather than compeltely re-downloading...11:33
trappisttar zxf steam.tar.Z11:33
deepfriedpenguingghgh11:33
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Spudlyterminals are a dime a dozen, they have no feelings :P11:34
_jonjon@ubuntu:~$ tar zxf steam.tar.Z11:34
_jontar: steam.tar.Z: Cannot open: No such file or directory11:34
_jontar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now11:34
_jontar: Child returned status 211:34
_jontar: Error exit delayed from previous errors11:34
_jonjon@ubuntu:~$11:34
trappistso it didn't extract a steam.tar.Z?11:34
trappistwhat did it do?11:34
_jonit did11:34
_joni see it11:34
_jonits an executable file11:35
trappistis it in the directory you're in?11:35
_jonit is in "/home/jon"11:35
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trappistand does 'pwd' say /home/jon?11:35
_jonpwd?11:35
trappistit's a command.  Print Working Directory.  so you know where you are.11:36
brexelhi all :)11:36
evilhHI11:36
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_jonyeah pwd says "/home/jon"\11:36
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brexel^^11:37
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brexel*spam*11:37
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evilh* evilh is happy cause his VNC server is working11:37
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brexel:D11:38
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_jonso eer what do i do?> i have the steam file11:38
trappist_jon: try clicking on it in a file browser11:38
_jonnothing happens11:38
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_jonso what should i try?11:40
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Pyrobobquick question.11:41
Pyrobobwhen I try to install deKorator I can't get it to install sucessfully11:41
Pyroboblike, I type "./configure11:42
Pyrobob"11:42
Pyroboband it works up until checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp11:42
_jonam i wasting my time?11:42
Pyrobobconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check11:42
brexelPyrobob: you have g++ installed?11:42
Pyrobobthink so11:43
brexeltype g++11:43
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brexelin a shell11:43
Pyrobobsays command not found11:43
brexel^^11:43
brexelinstall g++11:43
Pyrobobthat works11:43
Pyroboblol11:43
brexelheheh11:43
_jonafter i extracted the file what do i do to it?11:44
brexel_jon: what are you trying to do?11:44
_jonrun a counter-strike source server11:45
_jonmm i found a tutorial ill come back if i get stumped11:45
brexelso i guess you d/l the installer and extracted it?11:45
brexelah ok11:46
eazyhmm, linux is eating up my ram 999 Mb used of 1012Mb (1024)11:47
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Pyrobobnow it works, but I type in "make" like it asks, and it says "bash: make: command not found"11:49
brexeleazy it's just file cache...use `free` to see how much it really uses11:49
brexelPyrobob: you don't have any developerpackages installed11:50
brexelu need those to compile stuff11:50
brexelgcc, make, libc6-dev, autoconf etc11:50
PyrobobI rad somewhere to install KDE devel11:50
Pyrobobread*11:50
Pyroboband thats installed11:51
Pyroboband I think gcc is installed too, I remember doing somthing with gcc...11:51
Pyroboblemme check to see if wasn't somthing else11:51
brexelwell, make is required for almost anything to compile in C or C++11:51
Pyrobobgcc is already the newest version.11:52
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eazy-/+ buffers/cache: 228 Mb of  783 Mb is more true then perhaps?11:52
Pyrobobthats what it said when I tried "sudo apt-get install gcc"11:52
brexellooks more reasonable eazy11:52
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eazyk...thanx! :)11:52
brexelPyrobob: kk then go for make11:52
PyrobobI tried make already11:52
Pyrobobsaid it wasn't a command or somthing11:52
Pyrobobbash: make: command not found11:52
trappistsudo apt-get install build-essential11:53
brexelPyrobob: sudo apt-get install make11:53
brexelthe command is called 'make;11:53
brexelmake11:53
trappistno, build-essential11:53
Pyrobob...11:53
eazyhaving karamba on my desktop telling me that my ram is almost all used up ....stupid thing ;)11:54
trappistbrexel: build-essential is a metapackage that will install everything you need to do most of your compiling.  automake, autoconf, gcc, g++ etc.11:54
brexeli know thanks :)11:54
trappisterr meant to say that to Pyrobob11:54
brexel^^11:54
brexelnp11:54
Pyrobobk I didn't know if I had to re-do "./configure"11:55
Pyrobobso I gotta wait for that to finish11:55
Pyrobobmake works11:56
Pyrobobthanks guys11:57
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