[12:02] <brezel> ludo: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10 <-- that might help u
[12:03] <vge> glick: yes, im running kdedesktop sharing if that helps?
[12:03] <glick> vge, oh, i want an independant session server
[12:03] <brezel> vge: what is the problem? :)
[12:03] <ludo> I'll check... But that's very strange.. because if I cat smth > /dev/dsp ... this makes noise... so my sound card is perfect. (I first try with oss output...)
[12:04] <vge> basically mine works like a dream, was just referring to some question
[12:04] <brezel> ludo: it depends on which sound server u use...if you use oss in xmms it will block your soundcard
[12:04] <paulvolk> hello agian
[12:04] <brezel> hey paul
[12:04] <paulvolk> Um I was wondering what is the sudo cmd for deleting a file?
[12:05] <brezel> sudo lets you do something as the root user...sudo cant delete files
[12:05] <brezel> you remove files with rm
[12:05] <paulvolk> but the files access is set to root
[12:05] <brezel> if the file is owned by root you can remove it with sudo rm
[12:05] <paulvolk> ok
[12:06] <paulvolk> another question about firefox
[12:06] <brezel> fjellrev1: sry i can't reply ^^
[12:06] <paulvolk> the cusor theme seems not to carry over toin firefox why is that and is it fixable?
[12:06] <ninnghizidha>  n  ppliation to use a other Screen?
[12:06] <vge> is fixable
[12:07] <ninnghizidha> How can i tell an application to use another screen?
[12:07] <ninnghizidha> i remember something like display 0:0
[12:07] <ninnghizidha> or :0 appname
[12:07] <brezel> export DISPLAY=:1.0
[12:08] <paulvolk> how would I fix it?
[12:08] <maverick> hi all
[12:08] <vge> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75474.html <-- look monkey89 post
[12:08] <ninnghizidha> brezel, soundls like a variable ..
[12:08] <brexel> it is
[12:09] <maverick> anyone know how to run  c++ programe i made.. ( i compiled it) but cant rember command to run it? in konsole?
[12:09] <brexel> ./command
[12:09] <ninnghizidha> wasnt there a switch i could use in front of an app-name?
[12:09] <ludo> GRRR... I can read mp3 & wav, if I launch xmms from konsole... But not if launched via KDE...
[12:09] <brexel> :D
[12:09] <brexel> ludo: that's really odd
[12:10] <maverick> brex was that to me?
[12:11] <ludo> I think kde launches artsdsp xmms
[12:11] <brexel> maverick: yes. just use ./programname to start a freshly compiled program
[12:11] <maverick> hmm cheers mate
[12:11] <maverick> balls
[12:12] <brexel> ludo then you should set xmms to use arts
[12:12] <maverick> programe dnt work :(
[12:14] <paulvolk> you must have something messed in the program maby
[12:14] <paulvolk> might be a problem???  :|
[12:14] <maverick> yep
[12:14] <maverick> damn hate c++
[12:14] <ludo> didn't help for XMMS, but now amarok works...
[12:14] <ludo> 'll restart everything...
[12:15] <ludo> Great thanks.
[12:15] <brexel> yw :)
[12:15] <ludo> Probably a missing package...
[12:15] <brexel> i think xmms isnt using arts or something
[12:15] <ludo> was just missing mpeglib ...
[12:15] <brexel> you'll figure it out ^^
[12:15] <ludo> In xmms, you can choose...
[12:15] <ludo> I installed the xmms-arts
[12:16] <brexel> maybe u need to relogin to kde to make artsd recognize the new library
[12:16] <brexel> the gstreamer engine seems to be better than artsd
[12:17] <brexel> http://bash.org/?quote=608100 :D
[12:19] <hawking> how can i add /usr/local/bin to my PATH?
[12:19] <brexel> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin in .bashrc or in .bash_profile
[12:20] <paulvolk> Hello
[12:21] <paulvolk> I am thinking about switching my other Linux Box to Kubuntu but I am not sure what do you people think?
[12:21] <ludo> I've never been a fan of artsd... but it's the kde default... so..
[12:22] <maverick> do it :P
[12:22] <paulvolk> change?
[12:22] <maverick> yeah
[12:22] <frank23> anyone know where I could find logs for samba? /var/log/samba.log doesn't exist
[12:23] <paulvolk> but I am not sure. Why should I switch?
[12:23] <ludo> oups.. /var/log/samba/ or samba3
[12:23] <opiu> somebody know an openldap chat?
[12:23] <paulvolk> What does Kubuntu have that Suse doesn'?
[12:23] <maverick> hmm
[12:23] <opiu> WELL?
[12:24] <maverick> dnt know?
[12:24] <maverick> i like kubuntu
[12:24] <opiu> anybody know openldap?
[12:24] <bimberi> paulvolk: great looking people in its IRC channel! :P
[12:24] <maverick> looks like a no opiu
[12:24] <paulvolk> ok
[12:25] <brexel> ubuntu has .deb :)
[12:25] <bimberi> paulvolk: seriously though - try both and you decide
[12:25] <hawking>  I was trying to compile nessus from source and as compiling nessus-core I got this error  comm.c: In function comm_update_ui: comm.c:99: error: label at end of compound statement can someone help?
[12:25] <Nomad411> hey all.. I've had a very flaky system since I upped to KDE 3.5.1, many apps would cause a segmentation fault, but yesterday I found a fix (temporary?) while googling..  All I had to do was a 'touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap' and now those apps work..  Anyone know more abotu this ?
[12:25] <paulvolk> I will
[12:25] <bimberi> paulvolk:
[12:26] <Nomad411> The faulting apps would look for this and not find it.
[12:26] <paulvolk> ya?
[12:26] <bimberi> paulvolk: (sorry, bumped the enter key)
[12:27] <paulvolk> that is ok but did you want to say something to me?
[12:28] <Nomad411> the explanation is here: http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com/blog/?p=182  if it can help someone else
[12:28] <bimberi> paulvolk: not really much more I can say.  I can only express opinion - which you should be skeptical of anyway :)
[12:29] <paulvolk> what is your opinion?
[12:30] <bimberi> paulvolk: (k)ubuntu is great, has a teriffic community, and has all of the advantages of being a debian-based distribution (in particular the package management system)
[12:30] <brexel> nicely put :)
[12:31] <brexel> i just got into this irc channel 2 days ago and i like it very much already
[12:31] <brexel> :D
[12:31] <paulvolk> although suse has Yast
[12:31] <brexel> t
[12:32] <bimberi> paulvolk: i have to admit i don't know yast well - i've seen it pilloried but only in places that are probably biased (such as #*ubuntu)
[12:32] <brexel> what i dislike about it is that it automagically restores stuff that i change by hand :)
[12:33] <brexel> if you don't change anything by hand and always use yast it might work great though
[12:33] <paulvolk> lol Ya
[12:33] <maverick> in adept pressing full upgrade a bad idea?
[12:35] <tiberius> Is anyone here running dual monitors?
[12:36] <paulvolk> why is that a bad idea?
[12:36] <tiberius> no
[12:36] <brexel> tiberius: yes
[12:36] <tiberius> I just can't figure out for the life of me how to do it right
[12:36] <tiberius> What vid card are you using brexel?
[12:36] <brexel> nvidia
[12:36] <paulvolk> better then downloading like 3 gigs from novel to upgrade
[12:36] <brexel> gf6800 xt
[12:36] <paulvolk> lol
[12:36] <maverick> oh
[12:36] <maverick> nice card brex
[12:37] <tiberius> hmm, i'm on a 9800pro, and all the drivers/tuts I read and go through don't work for me
[12:37] <paulvolk> what does the full upgrade thing do?
[12:37] <brexel> it's ok :)
[12:37] <maverick> isnt thgat the 300+ one?
[12:37] <maverick> 
[12:37] <brexel> dunno what's that in euro?
[12:37] <brexel> tiberius: sorry i have no idea about ati cards
[12:37] <tiberius> like 170 i think
[12:37] <brexel> always avoided them because they are difficult under linux
[12:37] <tiberius> yeah, thats cool, thanks anyway
[12:37] <tiberius> i just got into linux
[12:38] <tiberius> its frustrating so far
[12:38] <maverick> same
[12:38] <paulvolk> can anyone tell me what the full upgrade button on adept is for?
[12:38] <tiberius> but i don't have teh experience, so i'm gonna keep screwin round with it
[12:38] <paulvolk> lol ya I know
[12:38] <brexel> tiberius: i can post you my xorg.conf if you want but i doubt it will help
[12:38] <tiberius> i do too
[12:38] <maverick> paul ill tell ya in minute i just pressed it :P
[12:38] <tiberius> brexel: my problem so far is getting the drivers to install properly
[12:38] <maverick> think just upgrades those which can be?
[12:39] <paulvolk> oh ok
[12:39] <brexel> tiberius: what is going wrong?
[12:39] <paulvolk> um for like a change in version can I download it through adept? or do I do it through CD?
[12:40] <maverick> throught adept i think?
[12:40] <paulvolk> like Kubuntu 5.xx to 6.xx
[12:40] <paulvolk> ok
[12:40] <paulvolk> anyone know how it is done?
[12:40] <maverick> hmm not sure on core stuff?
[12:40] <paulvolk> I was just curious
[12:41] <brexel> paulvolk: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:41] <tiberius> brex: i follow the tutorials i've been reading, and do everything exactly as they say, but when i restart x-server, it fails and i'm left at terminal
[12:41] <maverick> jsut curious anyone d/l movies? and got those rar .001 files?
[12:41] <tiberius> i'm good at fixing it, just not getting it to work
[12:41] <tiberius> yeah
[12:41] <tiberius> maverick: did you get a bunch of .00x files?
[12:41] <brexel> tiberius: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[12:41] <frank23> maverick: a rar split in parts
[12:41] <maverick> yeah
[12:41] <maverick> i normaly use winrar
[12:42] <brexel> maverick: rar x filename.rar
[12:42] <tiberius> maverick: just extract one of them, and the rest should extract themselves
[12:42] <maverick> but it wont open in ark
[12:42] <brexel> ark sucks
[12:42] <maverick> anyhting else io can use?
[12:42] <brexel> for rar files
[12:42] <brexel> rar x filenamr.rar :)
[12:42] <maverick> hmm
[12:43] <tiberius> brexel: i'll tell ya once i get gedit installed :P
[12:43] <brexel> :D
[12:43] <maverick> tiberious i cant opne one of dem thought
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[12:45] <maverick> spam?
[12:45] <brexel> lol what a poor try
[12:45] <maverick> :P
[12:46] <maverick> left soo early
[12:46] <maverick> ahh damnit
[12:46] <maverick> my mounted windows has broken
[12:47] <Zappa> anyone run Kylix 3 on ubuntu?
[12:48] <tiberius> brexel: well it doesn't say anything at the moment seeing as I haven't tried to reinstall them after the full reinstall of kubuntu
[12:49] <brexel> what?
[12:49] <brexel> once the xserver starts up it should write info to that file
[12:49] <tiberius> ...well maybe the directory path is wrong
[12:49] <Zappa> /usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[12:49] <Zappa> that's the error I get
[12:49] <brexel> so that you can find out why it doesn't start
[12:50] <brexel> Zappa: seems your libc version is too new or too old
[12:50] <Zappa> i'm assuming it means my glibc version is not compatible
[12:50] <brexel> Zappa: check which version it wants, compile that version to some customized place and export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to that place before starting that program :)
[12:51] <meebo> hey can any one tell me where i can those desktop widgets that show you your cpu speed etc, and mac like doc bars?
[12:51] <MuhKuh> does anyone how to get on kde-i18n-3.5.1 with breezy?
[12:51] <robotgeek> meebo: superkaramba, i am guessing
[12:51] <Zappa> brexel: it's annoying though - i'm just using the latest breezy version
[12:51] <robotgeek> www.kde-look.org
[12:51] <brexel> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[12:52] <brexel> Zappa: is kylix a kubuntu package?
[12:52] <Zappa> nah
[12:52] <MuhKuh> i have that. but still kde-i18n.xy-3.4.3
[12:52] <brexel> Zappa: i assume the libc version is too new
[12:52] <meebo> ive been on kde-look but i cant find any dock bars, widgets :|
[12:52] <Zappa> brexel: it's just a cd with an installer (shell script) on
[12:52] <Zappa> is 3.5.1 pretty stable?
[12:53] <brexel> yes :)
[12:53] <Zappa> many changes from 3.5?
[12:53] <MuhKuh> only fixes afaik
[12:53] <brexel> Zappa: @kylix you must find out which libc version it requires...otherwise you probably won't get it to work
[12:54] <MuhKuh> brexel: i have "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main" in my sources list but the localization files are still the old version
[12:55] <Zappa> brexel: maybe there's a kylix update - i'll have a look
[12:55] <brexel> MuhKuh: do you also have the old line in sources.list?
[12:55] <brexel> (the one of 3.4.x?
[12:55] <brexel> )
[12:55] <MuhKuh> no
[12:55] <MuhKuh> i installed whole kde 3.5.1 from that source, except the localization files
[12:56] <MuhKuh> cant find them
[12:56] <brexel> oh what do you know, those packages haven't been updated
[12:56] <brexel> why on earth did u do that? :D
[12:56] <brexel> like breaking apt? :)
[12:57] <MuhKuh> huh?
[12:57] <brexel> ^^
[12:57] <MuhKuh> what are you talking about?
[12:57] <brexel> well iif 3.5.1 was just a bugfix release these packages might not have changed
[12:57] <MuhKuh> since 3.5?
[12:57] <brexel> mhm
[12:58] <MuhKuh> hmm, for dapper there are 3.5.1 kde-i18n files
[01:05] <jung> hi
[01:06] <jung> asdf
[01:08] <jung> exit
[01:13] <feistel> hi
[01:13] <feistel> I try to play my video with Kaffeine, but nothing is showed
[01:13] <feistel> how I can install the codecs?
[01:18] <fatejudger> does CUPS work again?
[01:24] <enfact> the new font that breezy uses is WAY better than what hoary did
[01:24] <enfact> kudos on that switch
[01:24] <enfact> i just said kudos....
[01:25] <fatejudger> enfact: yeah, we heard you
[01:25] <fatejudger> enfact: Breezy is old news
[01:26] <enfact> sorry, i'm totally down with dapper your l33tness
[01:26] <enfact> and i was surprised that i used kudos, wasnt itching for a comment
[01:27] <_btn> 
[01:37] <jjesse> using konq what is the term for things like system:/ fish:/ etc
[01:44] <noa> HI
[01:53] <Nomad411> !konqueror
[01:53] <ubotu> hmm... konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[02:15] <orville> how come I can't change the time format (utc/localtime) from kubuntu's version of KDE?
[02:16] <orville> my time format is set to UTC which I don't want.
[02:17] <orville> and there's no way to change it... except the kdecontrol module, which doesn't do it in kubuntu...
[02:17] <brexel> vim /etc/default/rcS
[02:18] <jjesse>  right click on the click and select change date/time
[02:18] <jjesse> works for me
[02:18] <orville> brexel: thanks but that not going to automatically change the time _now_
[02:18] <jung_> cat
[02:18] <jung_> meow
[02:18] <brexel> ntpdate
[02:19] <orville> jjesse: if you mean "Adjust Date and Time..." tell  me how you change from UTC to locatime please.
[02:19] <brexel> orville: vim /etc/default/rcS
[02:19] <brexel> ^^
[02:20] <orville> brexel: i'm there now. but jjesse seems to know a way to get this to work in the KDE GUI so i want to hear this.
[02:20] <jjesse> hold on
[02:20] <mister_roboto> brexel: whast uses that variable?
[02:21] <brexel> orville: suit yourself. it won't work
[02:21] <brexel> mister_roboto: what do you mean?
[02:21] <jjesse> you can't select the time zone that you are in from the list?
[02:21] <orville> brexel: i know that. i've tried. but jjesse is telling me it will you see.
[02:21] <mister_roboto> brexel: the UTC variable in rcS
[02:21] <orville> I want him to find the out too :-)
[02:21] <jjesse> i can either choose Eastern/New York or UTC
[02:21] <orville> jjesse: have you tried?
[02:22] <brexel> mister_roboto: it is used by a script called hwclock.sh in /etc/init.d
[02:22] <jjesse> is that what you are talking about?
[02:22] <orville> jjesse: i'll show you a screenshot
[02:22] <mister_roboto> brexel: since i'm too damned lazy to grep!
[02:22] <mister_roboto> ;)
[02:22] <brexel> ^^
[02:22] <brexel> nevermind
[02:23] <orville> jjesse: i know there's supposed to be a dropdown box there. but i don't see it here.
[02:26] <sampan> orville, sounds like you have a fresh install of breezy -- i had this same problem with the clock when i first installed.  you're having trouble changing it, i suspect, because you haven't updated.  the original release had an "admin mode" bug that prevented changing the time zone.  if you update your system (esp. the kdebase package iirc) it'll work
[02:26] <orville> jjesse: uhaweb.hartford.edu/obennett/snapshot1.png
[02:26] <orville> sampan: ah perfect. I really wanted to see if this was actually a bug to report it :-)
[02:27] <sampan> orville, lol ... :D  it was MADDENINGLY frustrating for me -- had to manually stop/start the hw clock and stuff -- and then that caused other problems
[02:30] <orville> sampan: ooch.
[02:30] <brexel> lol
[02:30] <brexel> today is the 7th right?
[02:30] <brexel> i had 45 GB traffic this month already XD
[02:30] <brexel> 46.3 actually :D
[02:31] <jjesse> orville: are you on breezy or dapper?
[02:31] <orville> jjesse: dappa
[02:31] <sampan> orville  hrmmm if you're on dapper, then none of what i said applies
[02:32] <orville> sampan: well it seems this same bug exists
[02:32] <orville> and it is my sworn duty to report this... eventually.
[02:32] <orville> :-)
[02:32] <sampan> hahahaha
[02:33] <sampan> i'm sure dapper has a lot of bugs still since it's under heavy dev
[02:33] <mister_roboto> sampan: pretty bad for an old bug to reappear though, eh?
[02:33] <orville> i'm UBER new user
[02:33] <brexel> :D
[02:33] <orville> pretend that u had umlauts...
[02:34] <sampan> mister_roboto might be a completely new bug though ... i have no idea
[02:34] <sampan> orville  the new bug tracker is: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:34] <orville> sampan: says the same thing on the page "ubuntu bugzilla" just took me to
[02:35] <sampan> hahahaha :/
[02:35] <orville> must be something to that then.
[02:35] <sampan> maybe it's in the process of moving
[02:36] <sampan> i think i have a bookmark for a page that would give the instructions for manually resetting the hw clock (it's for mepis, but if you add sudo to the commands, it worked for me)
[02:36] <y_o_u> anyone: i am having problems tri-booting with xp, server 2003, and kubuntu. server 2003 seems to wipe the mbr and using grub, server 2003 doesnt seem to want to srart. anyone here have any ideas of programs or ideas that could get around something like that? thanks
[02:37] <sampan> orville:  http://www.mepis.org/node/7678  fourth or fifth post down, by potatosalad
[02:37] <orville> sampan: that's be shweet
[02:38] <sampan> orville  you'll have to use a city that's in your timezone (if it's not the same as on that page), but then it's just a symlink and stop/start the hw clock -- not hard
[02:40] <orville> well at least the command line time is right now....
[02:42] <orville> is there an update indicator thingy for kubuntu?
[02:42] <jjesse> adept updater keeps things up to date
[02:43] <orville> guess i'll finally install that.
[02:44] <klepto> hola
[02:44] <orville> maniac
[02:44] <klepto> heh
[02:45] <klepto> question, i rebooted today and noticed that kernel logging had failed.. i restarted syslogd and it still wont log at all
[02:47] <jung_> hi
[02:48] <orville> i see you actually have to be adept in order to use adept.
[02:48] <orville> i think i'll pass :-)
[02:48] <jjesse> !taskbar
[02:48] <ubotu> jjesse: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:48] <jjesse> !kicker
[02:48] <ubotu> jjesse: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:48] <jjesse> !panel
[02:48] <ubotu> jjesse: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:49] <Hobbsee> orville: or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:49] <orville> i wanna see what the hell i'm upgrading first. in pretty windows no less.
[02:50] <orville> I'll just stick w/ synaptic.
[02:51] <orville> which crashed.
[02:51] <orville> i guess there's just no winning today.
[02:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:55] <NRG88> what do i need to install? apache2 or apache2-common?
[02:55] <brexel> apache2...common will be selected automatically
[02:56] <brexel> try apt-cache show apache2 to see the dependencies
[02:56] <s4nt> hi
[02:58] <NRG88> ok, thnx
[02:59] <NRG88> last time, i've messed up something, and php wasn't working
[02:59] <NRG88> now i want a clean configured apache server, with php and mysql
[02:59] <NRG88> what versions shoudl i use? apache2, php5, mysql 4.1?
[02:59] <brexel> ah i remember :)
[03:00] <brexel> i would use apache2, php4 mysql 4.x
[03:00] <differnet22323> question, is there a way I can prevent wifi from connecting to a specific SSID
[03:00] <brexel> but i guess it's a matter of taste
[03:00] <differnet22323> it keeps jumping to the neighboors router, that has no internet on it
[03:00] <NRG88> ok, i to had some problems with php5 and mysql in win
[03:00] <NRG88> then i'll use php 4 :)
[03:00] <NRG88> thnx
[03:00] <brexel> yw
[03:01] <differnet22323> anyone know?
[03:02] <brexel> sry
[03:02] <s4nt> check the /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:03] <klepto> question, i rebooted today and noticed that kernel logging had failed.. i restarted syslogd and it still wont log at all
[03:03] <brexel> klepto: hmmmm syslogd and klogd must be started in a particular order...maybe they start in the wrong one
[03:03] <klepto> hmm
[03:03] <klepto> in which order?
[03:03] <brexel> not sure
[03:03] <brexel> just try :)
[03:04] <klepto> haha
[03:04] <brexel> only 2 ways to find out
[03:04] <s4nt> klepto: this might sound stupid but check free disk space
[03:04] <brexel> s4nt: yea that could be too ^^
[03:04] <klepto> only 22% used
[03:05] <NRG88> i'vr been using linux since yesterday, and man i like kubuntu :)
[03:05] <NRG88> i tried suse before... but it's a little harder
[03:05] <brexel> ~ $ ll /etc/rc2.d/*logd
[03:05] <brexel> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 18 2005-08-06 09:23 /etc/rc2.d/S10sysklogd -> ../init.d/sysklogd
[03:05] <brexel> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 2005-08-06 09:23 /etc/rc2.d/S11klogd -> ../init.d/klogd
[03:06] <brexel> this is how i have it
[03:06] <NRG88> the only problem with debian systems, is that they are internet dependent :?
[03:06] <brexel> is that a problem?
[03:06] <brexel> :)
[03:06] <NRG88> for me it isn't
[03:06] <brexel> a computer without internet is almost unusable i think
[03:06] <NRG88> but what about someone, who doesn't got internet?
[03:06] <brexel> hmm
[03:07] <NRG88> does the dvd version contain the major librarys?
[03:07] <mister_roboto> NRG88: how so? you can always just install off of a cdrom
[03:07] <brexel> what good is a computer with no networking?
[03:07] <s4nt> you can download the updates and burn them to a cd
[03:07] <klepto> works now,  i wonder why it won't start at boot
[03:07] <brexel> klepto: maybe the order is wrong
[03:07] <brexel> did u check?
[03:08] <s4nt> anyone having keyboard mapping issues w/ kde 3.51 on breezy?
[03:08] <klepto> how do i check? i have'nt played in linux since 2.033 kernel
[03:08] <brexel> klepto: ll /etc/rc2.d/*logd
[03:08] <brexel> klepto: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*logd
[03:08] <brexel> sry ^^
[03:09] <brexel> syslogd should have a lower number than klogd
[03:10] <jjesse> !applets
[03:10] <ubotu> jjesse: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <klepto> syslog is 18 klogd is 15
[03:11] <brexel> klepto: try this: sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S18syslogd /etc/rc2.d/S11syslogd
[03:11] <brexel> with next reboot it should work
[03:11] <brexel> though i wonder why it is like that in the first place
[03:14] <brexel> NRG88: should work right out of the box ^^
[03:14] <brexel> never had probs mith mysql
[03:14] <brexel> apart from the missing features :P
[03:15] <NRG88> :)
[03:16] <NRG88> brexel: what do i need to install from the mysql list, to make it work with php?
[03:16] <NRG88> mysql-server-4.1?
[03:17] <brexel> php4-mysql mysql-server
[03:17] <NRG88> ok, php4-mysql installed, then mysql-server
[03:17] <NRG88> shoulf i install mysql-server-4.1 instead?
[03:17] <_brad> mysql 5,0 has some nice features in it
[03:18] <brexel> i don't know about mysql 5..never tried it
[03:18] <NRG88> i only have mysql-server and mysql-server-4.1
[03:18] <_brad> i would install it for the stored procedure support alone
[03:18] <brexel> mysql-server is a virtual package
[03:18] <NRG88> it is only version4
[03:18] <brexel> it will install whatever is stable right now
[03:19] <NRG88> it think i will install 4.1
[03:19] <NRG88> mysql-common-4.1 already installed
[03:19] <NRG88> by default :?
[03:19] <brexel> dunno :)
[03:20] <NRG88> _brad: i have messed with apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin, and ended up with nothing working
[03:20] <NRG88> and even couldn't uninstall phpmyadmin
[03:21] <_brad> these guys probably know more than me, listen to them instead of me :)
[03:21] <NRG88> i don't even have mysql 5 in my repository  :-\
[03:21] <brexel> IIRC you f*scked up your apt ^^
[03:21] <NRG88> yea, apt was done
[03:21] <NRG88> i have reinstalled kubuntu 2 hours ago 1 think
[03:21] <NRG88> fresh install :)
[03:22] <NRG88> no data to lose, only using kubuntu since yesterday
[03:22] <brexel> that's the best way to learn it :)
[03:22] <NRG88> yeah :)
[03:22] <_brad> i installed it 3 times on saturday
[03:23] <_brad> it's goodd that it only takes 20 minutes
[03:23] <NRG88> to learn from our mistakes :D
[03:23] <NRG88> apt makes life so easy ;)
[03:23] <brexel> if i hadn't moved from debian to ubuntu i would still have the install i made 6 years ago :D
[03:23] <brexel> true NRG88
[03:24] <_brad> i used to use debian
[03:24] <orville> hmmm
[03:24] <tulga> Hi! I tried cvs update KDE3 to 4. but configure: error: No GIF library found. howto I install gif library?
[03:24] <orville> i think i can.
[03:24] <orville> i think i can.
[03:24] <brexel> tulga: apt-cache search gif library
[03:25] <NRG88> after configuring the webservices, i think i will give it a full upgrade (kernel, KDE, etc)
[03:25] <NRG88> i had one problem yesterday with KDE 3.51
[03:25] <NRG88> after updating
[03:25] <tulga> brexel: I searched and installed giflib3g, libungif and devs. but not working
[03:25] <NRG88> the drives from Storage Media had dissapeared :-\
[03:26] <brexel> if you wanna compile something you need to install the *-dev packages
[03:26] <brexel> my guess would be giflib3g-dev
[03:26] <tulga> brexel: yep. I installed it. checking for DGifOpen in -lungif... no
[03:27] <brexel> libgd-gif1-dev?
[03:27] <tulga> in log: checking for DGifOpen in -lungif... no
[03:27] <brexel> oh here it is: libungif4-dev
[03:27] <tulga> I installed libungif4-dev too
[03:28] <tulga> I try libgd-gif1-dev, but Package libgd-gif1-dev has no installation candidate
[03:28] <brexel> -lungif means it wants to link against a library called libungif.a or libungif.so
[03:29] <brexel> you might wanna find out which packages provide these files
[03:30] <brexel> Knowerrors: hey i got the same first name as you :)
[03:30] <Knowerrors> Anybody here use dialup modem for net access?
[03:31] <Knowerrors> brexel: hehe, its not my real name, thats a name from the Simpsons ;)
[03:31] <brexel> Knowerrors: tamsarian?
[03:31] <brexel> LD
[03:31] <s4nt> Knowerrors: no, and i thank god everyday for that ;D
[03:31] <brexel> :D
[03:31] <brexel> <-- simpsons freax0r
[03:32] <NRG88> is it safe to install phpmyadmin? last time i couldn't uninstall it
[03:32] <brexel> yes nrg..im sure phpmyadmin didnt break your apt
[03:33] <NRG88> ok
[03:33] <brexel> its just some php scripts
[03:33] <brexel> you can see what's in the package after installing it with dpkg -L phpmyadmin
[03:34] <Knowerrors> s4nt: yeah, wish I had broadband as an option, too far out from city
[03:34] <NRG88> hm
[03:34] <NRG88> #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[03:35] <brexel> is it running?
[03:35] <brexel> ps afx | grep mysql
[03:35] <NRG88> 11333 pts/6    S+     0:00          \_ grep mysql
[03:35] <NRG88> it's this one?
[03:35] <brexel> not running :)
[03:35] <brexel> no that is the grep process :)
[03:35] <brexel>  /etc/init.d/mysql start
[03:36] <NRG88> :)
[03:36] <NRG88> thnx
[03:36] <brexel> yw
[03:36] <s4nt> Knowerrors: if it helps, i used to use kppp (but that was a long time ago)
[03:36] <dr_wu> Knowerrors- wvdial works well too..
[03:37] <NRG88> working :)
[03:37] <Knowerrors> I already use kppp, Im connected right now with it
[03:37] <Knowerrors> my problem is, I only have one phone line
[03:38] <brexel> great NRG88 :) grats
[03:38] <Knowerrors> and have call waiting, and I need to setup kppp so that it disconnects asap when I get a call
[03:39] <NRG88> so, when i upgrade to KDE 3.51, the drives dissapear from Storage Media, and only the Floppy Drive remains
[03:40] <NRG88> how do i make them appear there again?
[03:40] <freeflying> anyone use dapper on ppc now
[03:46] <tulga> freeflying: I am using dapper 2
[03:46] <freeflying> tulga: how about it now ? and have u upgraded it up-to-date ?
[03:47] <tulga> freeflying: dapper 2 bad. it is kubuntu, then I not uptodate, I only testing
[03:47] <tulga> dapper 2 is not good now. I don;t use 3.
[03:48] <freeflying> tulga: u may try upgrade it .
[03:48] <tulga> my connection very slow :D
[03:48] <freeflying> tulga: :)
[03:58] <tulga> I haven't package libgd-gif1-dev. where I find libgd-gif1-dev for dapper?
[03:59] <NRG88> damn, i have installed php and mysql, phpmyadmin working, but can't use mysql_connect()
[04:01] <Brydenn> this may not be the channel to ask but i'm having a hell of a time trying to install a "theme" for kubuntu
[04:02] <Brydenn> can anyone help me with that?
[04:05] <freeflying> tulga: may u give more detail about this package
[04:05] <tulga> freeflying: I updating kde 3 to 4. config require GIF library
[04:09] <freeflying> tulga: you compile kde4 from svn ?
[04:10] <tulga> yep
[04:12] <freeflying> tulga: seems u'd build this package manually
[04:12] <tulga> yep
[04:12] <tulga> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE3To4
[04:17] <freeflying> tulga: go to kubuntu-devel,someone may work on kde4
[04:18] <tulga> tnx
[04:18] <jose> anyone knows how to activate 3d acceleration for a S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[04:22] <jose> anyone knows how to activate 3d acceleration for a S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[04:23] <unix_infidel> can anyone help me out there, trying to use cpufreqd with cpufreq-utils and i've set the governor to userspace and set the minimum frequency to 600mhz, but sometimes itll automatically change governors on its own and go to performance.
[04:23] <unix_infidel> which brings it back to the max freq of 1.7ghz.
[04:23] <unix_infidel> is there a reason for that, or anyway i can prevent it from doing that ,is the daemon somehow restarting/
[04:24] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[04:29] <_brad> i am trying to install citrix on kubuntu.  The problem is that there is a missing library libXm.so.3.  How do I get that library installed?
[04:30] <_brad> when I do and ldd is shows me that the library is missing, which is how I know
[04:36] <Snake__> Can someone help me? I cant get openoffice to start up
[04:37] <beefsprocket> Snake__: try running from a console and see what it outputs
[04:37] <Snake__> beefsprocket: heh, it just now started up on my 9th try
[04:37] <_brad> i think that openmotif is not installed and is the problem
[04:37] <Snake__> Thanks for the help tho :)
[04:37] <jose> can anyone help me?
[04:37] <beefsprocket> Snake__: I have that happen all the some, takes two or three tries to open something
[04:38] <beefsprocket> and then you have 3 windows that look like they are going to open
[04:38] <beefsprocket> and only 1 does in the end
[04:38] <Snake__> I wonder why that is
[04:38] <beefsprocket> I'm sure if you looked hard enough something would pop out
[04:41] <s4nt> _brad: i had the same problem, you are missing a library
[04:43] <_brad> s4nt: yes, i know
[04:43] <_brad> but I don't know how to install that linrary
[04:43] <unix_infidel> how do i disable cron from starting at boot
[04:44] <_brad> i looked with adept as well as apt and neither seems to have the package or library I need
[04:45] <rich0rd> which one?
[04:45] <unix_infidel> anyone? how would i go about disabling services that start at boot?
[04:45] <unix_infidel> for instance cron.
[04:45] <unix_infidel> crond*
[04:45] <rich0rd> use KSysV
[04:46] <rich0rd> (@unix_infidel)
[04:46] <unix_infidel> rich0rd: anything more concrete like a configuration file?
[04:46] <s4nt> _brad: try  apt-get install libmotif3
[04:46] <sampan> unix_infidel  system settings --> system services ... you can go through and disable things there once you login under admin-mode
[04:47] <unix_infidel> i'm pretty new to ubuntu, i still havent figured out how you guys handle all these mess of services at startup at boot and stuff.
[04:47] <rich0rd> unix_infidel: sudo bash && ksysv
[04:47] <_brad> s4nt: Couldn't find package libmotif3
[04:47] <unix_infidel> sampan: lol, i'm better with CLI based config, i'm not a big GUI apps that manage my system fo rme.
[04:47] <unix_infidel> a big fan*
[04:47] <rich0rd> unix_infidel: you can edit the services and runlevels with this tool
[04:47] <_brad> s4nt: the citrix page says: x86 client - requires OpenMotif 2.2.x
[04:48] <_brad> so I googled for open motif and I found the source page
[04:48] <_brad> aand on this page: http://ftp.motifzone.com/om2.2.4/
[04:48] <sampan> unix_infidel  *shrug*  do as you like.  the GUI is there if you need it.
[04:48] <_brad> it doesn't show a kubuntu or debian release
[04:48] <s4nt> _brad: libmotif3 is the package you need, it contains /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3
[04:48] <unix_infidel> sampan: that's all fine and well, but i need a more concrete way of doing things.
[04:49] <unix_infidel> like if this were gentoo i'd have rc.conf, what does kubuntu user, or better yet how does debian handle tehis.
[04:49] <s4nt> _brad: you need to add universe and multiverse repositories
[04:49] <_brad> ok
[04:49] <unix_infidel> i'm checking out the wiki but they dont like to tell me how to disable all the spiffy services they mak eme load up at boot.
[04:50] <rich0rd> as i said ksysv is a gui tool
[04:50] <s4nt> unix_infidel: if you like gui, on system setting there is a "system services" icon, you can see whats launched on boot there
[04:50] <rich0rd> debian uses scripts located in certain directories
[04:50] <unix_infidel> lol, but how do i configure it otherwise, say i'm NOT in X.
[04:50] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: default runlevel is 2
[04:50] <rich0rd> i think kubuntu follows this philosophy
[04:50] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: just go to rc2.d and disable em
[04:51] <unix_infidel> mister_roboto: and they will stay disabled?
[04:51] <s4nt> unix_infidel: you have to check on /etc/rc2.d
[04:51] <mister_roboto> of course tehy will
[04:51] <mister_roboto> if they can't run
[04:51] <s4nt> unix_infidel: those scripts are the ones that run on boot
[04:51] <_brad> s4nt:  i understand the problem, I'll find a repository that has that package
[04:51] <_brad> thanks for your help
[04:52] <unix_infidel> s4nt: so i would just /etc/rc2.d/S89cron stop?
[04:52] <s4nt> _brad: i would send you a PM with the repositories, but i cant since im not a registed user
[04:52] <unix_infidel> and it wont start at next boot?
[04:52] <mister_roboto> or just remove the file (put it in some backup dir)
[04:53] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: that's right. that is how the daemons get started upon entering run level 2
[04:53] <s4nt> unix_infidel: no, you need to remove the file that starts
[04:53] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: I would suggest moving them out of the way rather than just delete them, in case you want to easily put back
[04:53] <rich0rd> i just read, that crond is started at all boot levels :) - let's have a look
[04:53] <unix_infidel> mister_roboto: i'd just rename them with mv.
[04:54] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: the 'S' scripts are for starting, the 'K' scripts are for killing or stopping
[04:54] <rich0rd> but i don't think it's a good idea to supress cron - we all need cron :)
[04:54] <unix_infidel> rich0rd: that's just an example
[04:54] <unix_infidel> deb based does weird ways of starting stopping daemons.
[04:54] <unix_infidel> config isnt really intuitive....
[04:54] <s4nt> _brad: check http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77889.html on how to add repositories
[04:54] <unix_infidel> like gentoo or slack.
[04:55] <_brad> s4nt:  i looked in the sources file and they seem to have some universe repositories commented out
[04:55] <_brad> i'm trying them now
[04:55] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: there are two types of init styles, sys V and bsd
[04:55] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: welcome to sys v
[04:55] <s4nt> mister_roboto: :D
[04:55] <_brad> s4nt:  i'm updating now
[04:56] <_brad> still can't find it
[04:56] <_brad> let me try others
[04:56] <Snake__> Can someone verify: KsCD and Kaffine come with KDE 3.5.1?
[04:56] <unix_infidel> mister_roboto: honesly wish they were modular. like you could swap out sysv for bsd style.
[04:57] <unix_infidel> Feb  6 20:17:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[14526] : (root) CMD (   run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[04:57] <_brad> s4nt:  should I comment out these repositories after i install this library?
[04:57] <unix_infidel> that's what caused my cpufreq governor to change, it HAD to be.
[04:57] <mister_roboto> unix_infidel: it's really not bad once you get used to it.  easy to set up your own runlevels with whatever you feel like running
[04:57] <unix_infidel> so i just disabled that from crontab.
[04:58] <s4nt> _brad: no, its not necessary
[04:58] <Xtender_> whois
[04:58] <Xtender_> hmm
[04:59] <_brad> s4nt:  I added every repository in the sources file but it still can not find it
[05:00] <s4nt> _brad: did you ran apt-get update after uncommenting the repositories?
[05:00] <_brad> yes
[05:00] <_brad> i'm hunting for more multiverses
[05:01] <Xtender_> hi
[05:01] <Xtender_> how do i list the people in this chat?
[05:01] <s4nt> _brad: deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:02] <pixelfairy> Xtender_: what irc client are you using?
[05:02] <s4nt> deb http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[05:02] <Xtender_> im using iirc
[05:02] <Xtender_> err irssi
[05:02] <pixelfairy> Xtender_: try /who
[05:02] <Xtender_> nope not working
[05:02] <pixelfairy> now esc-1
[05:02] <pixelfairy> or alt-1
[05:03] <pixelfairy> im using irssi too
[05:03] <Hobbsee> Xtender_: /names
[05:03] <_brad> s4nt: bam! one of those repositories had it
[05:03] <Xtender_> Hobbsee thanks
[05:03] <pixelfairy> Hobbsee: me like that one
[05:03] <pixelfairy> i used to use who
[05:03] <s4nt> _brad: :D
[05:04] <_brad> lol it still shows as not found
[05:04] <Xtender_> also another quick question
[05:04] <Xtender_> how do i properly quit irc through irssi?
[05:04] <_brad> i probably need to resinstall citrix/
[05:04] <pixelfairy> Xtender_: /quit
[05:04] <Xtender_> before, i think i just did ctrl+x?
[05:04] <Xtender_> or ctrl+c?
[05:04] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:05] <Xtender_> but when i reconnected again, my previous nick was still connected
[05:05] <pixelfairy> Xtender_: do you know of screen?
[05:05] <sampan> xtender_  what's really cool is if you run your irssi in 'screen' -- you can detach the screen and restart you X server, then reattach the screen session and irssi will still be there!  :D
[05:05] <_brad> s4nt: I ran this: sudo ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 /usr/lib/libXm.so.3
[05:05] <_brad> it is found now
[05:05] <Xtender_> sorry, i'm new at irc
[05:05] <pixelfairy> Xtender_: http://pixelfairy.org/quickies/screen.html
[05:05] <Xtender_> or linux for that matter
[05:05] <_brad> s4nt:  it's running now, thanks for your help
[05:06] <s4nt> _brad: great, np
[05:06] <pixelfairy> dont worry about voyer and exibitionist, thats just an example of how cool screen can be
[05:06] <pixelfairy> the first sections enough
[05:07] <Xtender_> wow seems like a cool prog
[05:07] <Xtender_> so whats the command to quit irc?
[05:07] <pixelfairy> Xtender_: the command is "/quit"
[05:07] <Xtender_> lol
[05:07] <Xtender_> simple enough
[05:07] <SoBeIcedT> im a long time gentoo user, thinking about installing kubuntu on my laptop
[05:08] <SoBeIcedT> what makes kubuntu special
[05:08] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: theres always qemu/vmware if you want to play with it
[05:08] <pixelfairy> easy install, easy updates, easy packages
[05:08] <pixelfairy> two of those you get wiht gentoo
[05:08] <SoBeIcedT> what is the packaging system link
[05:08] <SoBeIcedT> like
[05:09] <pixelfairy> debian
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> i really like being able to just type emerge whatever
[05:09] <pixelfairy> apt-get foo
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> never used debian
[05:09] <pixelfairy> instead of emerge foo
[05:09] <pixelfairy> but its not source
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> no compiling though
[05:09] <pixelfairy> its allready compiler
[05:09] <pixelfairy> i mean compiled
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> that sounds like what i want
[05:09] <pixelfairy> too much coffee
[05:09] <pixelfairy> cant type
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> lol
[05:09] <pixelfairy> im trying to rearrange my sleep pattern
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> ive only really used gentoo
[05:09] <SoBeIcedT> its what i started with
[05:10] <pixelfairy> what are you looking for that you want to try kubuntu?
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> no more compiling
[05:10] <pixelfairy> yea
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> takes too long
[05:10] <pixelfairy> that will give that
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> i like everything else about gentoo
[05:10] <pixelfairy> and the less effort in install
[05:10] <s4nt> i also was a gentoo user
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> yeah install is a pain for gentoo
[05:10] <pixelfairy> in that case youll probalby like kubuntu
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> ive only done it twice
[05:10] <s4nt> the install time got the worst out of me...
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> never had to reinstall
[05:10] <SoBeIcedT> i did a stage 1 the first time
[05:11] <pixelfairy> you can always try stuff in a virtual machine
[05:11] <pixelfairy> wow!
[05:11] <SoBeIcedT> a friend recommended it so that i could use learn
[05:11] <pixelfairy> i hope you had distcc going
[05:11] <SoBeIcedT> i had never used linux before that
[05:11] <pixelfairy> i usually give slackware to learn from
[05:11] <SoBeIcedT> it was long week
[05:11] <pixelfairy> but thats a prefernce thing
[05:11] <pixelfairy> i mean for people who want to learn how it works
[05:11] <pixelfairy> or be forced to
[05:11] <pixelfairy> i guess gentoo would be that even more so
[05:11] <s4nt> the good thing about kubunto is the auto config and quick updates, the downside compared to gentoo is the lack of optimization and lots of less packages
[05:11] <SoBeIcedT> yeah im pretty proficient now i would say... no longer ms dependent
[05:12] <s4nt> *kubuntu
[05:12] <SoBeIcedT> ive not used windows on my desktop in over 2 years
[05:12] <SoBeIcedT> less packages?
[05:12] <pixelfairy> yea, but its easy to add more repositories
[05:12] <SoBeIcedT> here is another thing that ive been wondering
[05:12] <pixelfairy> does checkinstall work in ubuntu?
[05:13] <SoBeIcedT> so ive been using gentoo forever, its been "installing" everything for me
[05:13] <SoBeIcedT> what is the proper usage of the directory tree
[05:13] <s4nt> yes, kubuntu has all the "most used" packages, but there are certain stuff that is not on the repositories (and i dont trust the non-official ones)
[05:13] <SoBeIcedT> as in what should go in /var
[05:13] <SoBeIcedT> in /usr
[05:13] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: thats changed over the years
[05:13] <pixelfairy> man heir on a bsd system
[05:13] <pixelfairy> thats as close to a standard as youll get
[05:14] <pixelfairy>  /var was supposed to just be logs and spools and caches
[05:14] <pixelfairy> but now people put web pages there?
[05:14] <SoBeIcedT> ive seen that
[05:14] <pixelfairy>  /opt used to be like non system
[05:14] <pixelfairy> like vendor area
[05:14] <pixelfairy> and some distros still do that
[05:15] <pixelfairy> slackware keeps changing there mind on putting kde there
[05:15] <pixelfairy> but you used to see like /opt/adobe/
[05:15] <SoBeIcedT> would you reccomend kubunu
[05:15] <SoBeIcedT> or slackware
[05:15] <SoBeIcedT> for a laptop
[05:15] <pixelfairy> /usr/local is obvious
[05:15] <pixelfairy> for what you asked for, kubuntu
[05:15] <SoBeIcedT> ok thank
[05:15] <SoBeIcedT> s
[05:15] <s4nt> kubuntu all the way , but i love slack :D
[05:15] <pixelfairy> slackware is good in that its easy to do your own packages
[05:15] <SoBeIcedT> there are so many distros its hard to decide what i should use next
[05:15] <rich0rd> i am using kubuntu on my laptop
[05:16] <pixelfairy> and its kept up pretty well for other stuff
[05:16] <rich0rd> works fine
[05:16] <rich0rd> debian on the workstation
[05:16] <pixelfairy> ubuntu is beutifull on my newer fancy laptop
[05:16] <pixelfairy> slackware on my older one
[05:16] <pixelfairy> and im running my apps over ssh and screen from a mac
[05:16] <SoBeIcedT> does the kubuntu installer have a hard disk partition resizer thingy, i am using a toshiba m200 which has windows tablet edition on it, and im not sure that i want to totally remove that
[05:17] <rich0rd> partitioner yes, resize no
[05:17] <pixelfairy> i mean the mac is running them, i sit in front of ubuntu or slackware
[05:17] <SoBeIcedT> ok
[05:17] <SoBeIcedT> ill use partition magic while the dvd iso is downloading
[05:17] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: or theres qtparted
[05:18] <pixelfairy> i really like the simplicity of slackware for dedicated purpose machines
[05:18] <pixelfairy> if its more general purpose, then slackware becomes more effort
[05:18] <SoBeIcedT> would you say it would be good for a mythtv box
[05:18] <pixelfairy> yea
[05:18] <pixelfairy> i would use it for tha
[05:18] <SoBeIcedT> ive got an amd 64 in the mail that im going to use for mythtv
[05:19] <pixelfairy> im also kinda addicted to gcc :)
[05:19] <SoBeIcedT> ill try slackware on that
[05:19] <pixelfairy> slack is only 32 bit
[05:19] <SoBeIcedT> i want to get some exposure to other distros
[05:19] <SoBeIcedT> oooh
[05:19] <pixelfairy> but for mythtv its col
[05:19] <rich0rd> i never tried slackware, tried SuSE(6.3), RedHat, Debian, Ubuntu/Kubuntu, Fedora Core
[05:19] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: get vmware or qemu
[05:19] <pixelfairy> qemu is slower but free and more fun
[05:19] <SoBeIcedT> what are they?
[05:19] <rich0rd> and i like debian best (atm)
[05:19] <pixelfairy> in some ways
[05:19] <pixelfairy> virtual machine
[05:19] <SoBeIcedT> googleing
[05:19] <pixelfairy> run linux
[05:19] <SoBeIcedT> wikipediaing
[05:19] <pixelfairy> qemu.org vmware.com
[05:20] <pixelfairy> vmware is better if you want to try the distro as a desktop
[05:20] <pixelfairy> its fast and smooth enough to watch movies
[05:20] <pixelfairy> qemu is better for other stuff
[05:20] <pixelfairy> like scripting networks
[05:20] <pixelfairy> i really need to make a howto on that...
[05:21] <rich0rd> nice i didn't know qemu
[05:23] <rich0rd> and now for a cold red bull
[05:24] <dbglt> lo everyone
[05:24] <SoBeIcedT> red bull!
[05:24] <SoBeIcedT> im drinking polar orange dry
[05:24] <SoBeIcedT> the best drink out there
[05:25] <rich0rd> i am from austria, so i have to drink red bull (local brand)
[05:28] <rich0rd> is there a amarok-gstreamer plugin today
[05:29] <rich0rd> (dapper)
[05:30] <_mathieu> Hola
[05:31] <Arcanimus_> night all
[05:33] <SoBeIcedT> heres a hypothetical
[05:34] <Xtender_> hi
[05:34] <SoBeIcedT> i want to install ubuntu on my desktop
[05:34] <SoBeIcedT> and i have gentoo
[05:35] <SoBeIcedT> can i have both use the same configs?
[05:36] <NamShub> its possible to backup your config files
[05:39] <Lars121> hey, does anyone have a HP PSC(xxxx) type/model all-in-one printer running?
[05:41] <mister_roboto> Lars121 psc2510 here
[05:42] <Lars121> do you remember or reccomend which driver... there are a few for PSC1310
[05:42] <bimberi> Lars121: no, i have an officejet, but this page was good (particularly the 2nd part on hplip) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters?highlight=%28psc%29
[05:43] <Lars121> from pool on left window i have HP and HP (HPLIP) libraries
[05:43] <Lars121> both have PSC1310 drivers
[05:43] <Lars121> thanks for the link!
[05:43] <bimberi> Lars121: np :)
[05:47] <zerodni> NamShub, yes just cp -i /etc then the path that you want to store
[05:48] <zerodni> NamShub, also make sure you do that as sudo
[05:49] <Brydenn> beefsprocket:  check your PM dude :)
[05:50] <zerodni> NamShub, i like to keep backups like that work using cron dally and if im in a jam i just edit the fstab to point to the other hardive and i dont even have to copy to get back up and runing
[05:50] <jahon> hey guys, how to i go about adding gnome and xfcs to my kubuntu desktop?
[05:50] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: dont do it
[05:50] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: keep them seperate
[05:51] <pixelfairy> if you want differnt distros on the same drive, make a data partition
[05:51] <pixelfairy> you dont even want to share /home
[05:51] <gamma> anyone have trouble playing .mov files with the kaffeine-mozilla plugin?
[05:51] <pixelfairy> its good to keep the data partition seperate from /home anyway for disaster recovery
[05:52] <pixelfairy> SoBeIcedT: but xorg.conf can be shared except for like the font entries
[05:53] <gamma> blah i'll just install mplayer+kmplayer
[05:53] <pixelfairy> gamma: mplayer is good, you might want xine with it, just because that can go full screen
[05:54] <pixelfairy> for some reason mplayer doesnt
[05:54] <pixelfairy> on all cards
[05:54] <pixelfairy> think its a driver thing
[05:54] <gamma> mplayer should be able to go fullscreen
[05:54] <gamma> yea probably driver related
[05:54] <pixelfairy> but for web stuff, mplayer
[05:54] <gamma> i'm just having issues with kaffeine-mozilla crashing stuff
[05:54] <gamma> stuff = konqueror
[05:54] <gamma> VERY annoying
[05:54] <pixelfairy> another strange thing, mplayer plays more stuff, but they use the same codecs
[05:55] <gamma> yea i don't understand that either
[05:55] <pixelfairy> gamma: youll have better luck with firefox
[05:55] <gamma> and xine was the first to impliment w32 codecs
[05:55] <pixelfairy> or mozilla
[05:55] <pixelfairy> really?
[05:55] <gamma> <3 khtml/webcore
[05:55] <gamma> yea
[05:55] <pixelfairy> and mplayer is the one famouse for it
[05:55] <pixelfairy> khtml is great in the long run. im glad for those working onit
[05:55] <gamma> yea which confuses me :P
[05:55] <gamma> khtml is perfect now imo
[05:55] <gamma> better than gecko
[05:56] <pixelfairy> im hoping safari makes the web better for it
[05:56] <gamma> gecko needs a rewrite
[05:57] <pixelfairy> i thought just parts of gecko
[05:57] <pixelfairy> and svg
[05:57] <pixelfairy> thats another wierd one, theres good implementations already
[05:57] <pixelfairy> why is mozilla doing another?
[05:58] <gamma> another what?
[05:58] <pixelfairy> implementation of svg
[05:58] <gamma> oh i think they do that well
[05:58] <jahon> that's odd.  disconnected...
[05:58] <jahon> how do i go about adding gnome and xfcs to my kubuntu desktop?  Any ideas?
[05:59] <pixelfairy> jahon: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <pixelfairy> and gnome-desktop (i think)_
[05:59] <pixelfairy> maybe its ubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <Hobbsee> it's ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <jahon> just a sec, let me add that to my linux notebook
[06:00] <pixelfairy> a grimior for nix :)
[06:01] <jahon> ok thanks.
[06:01] <Lars121> anyone edit html using wysisyg editor in linux?
[06:01] <jahon> pixelfairy:  after it is installed, do i need to run anything else or just logout and reboot?
[06:02] <rich0rd> Lars121: try quanta
[06:02] <pixelfairy> jahon: yea, logout, dont reboot
[06:02] <pixelfairy> you can choose a new desktop in the log in screen
[06:03] <pixelfairy> Lars121: theres also nvu, but i havent tried either
[06:03] <pixelfairy> xhtml + css
[06:03] <Lars121> quanta looks nice... i have anxiety issues about changing interfaces because i become less productive and capable in production
[06:04] <jahon> pixelfairy:  KEWL thanks
[06:04] <mshade> is there a way to set mass-file associations... say i want amarok to open all audio formats, rather than clicking each and every mime type..?
[06:04] <Lars121> am proficient in Redmond apps frontpage (sic) and Dreamweaver
[06:05] <pixelfairy> Lars121: if you do that much web, try looking into xhtml and css
[06:05] <jahon> btw, what is the better installer?  synaptic, adept, or adtitude?
[06:05] <pixelfairy> theres a good book called eric myer something
[06:05] <pixelfairy> dont remmeber
[06:05] <Lars121> yes, thanks... already leaning that way
[06:05] <pixelfairy> synaptic is what ubuntu mostly uses
[06:05] <pixelfairy> and "add programs"
[06:06] <pixelfairy> which just calls synaptic anwyay
[06:06] <gamma> much better <3
[06:06] <pixelfairy> or just apt-cache search and apt-get install
[06:06] <pixelfairy> personally i think self contained folders (like rox or app bundles) are the way to go
[06:07] <pixelfairy> but thats preference
[06:07] <jahon> i'll try rox or app bundles out.
[06:08] <Xtender_> hi
[06:08] <Xtender_> hi
[06:08] <Xtender_> adf
[06:08] <pixelfairy> jahon: thats not something ubuntu really does
[06:08] <pixelfairy> i guess you could
[06:08] <Xtender_> hi
[06:08] <pixelfairy> i do it when i write apps for clients
[06:08] <pixelfairy> so they dont need installers and stuff
[06:08] <jahon> i messed with gnome verserion and got too used to synamptic
[06:09] <jahon> plus i don't like the fact that if i want a file, some else has to be removed from the system.
[06:09] <jahon> then there is the version numbers you have to watch out for...
[06:10] <jahon> ack.  i can install the hell out of linux.  :)
[06:10] <pixelfairy> blender, firefox, openoffice (older versions more) all were fine outside of pakcage systems
[06:10] <pixelfairy> and self contained
[06:10] <jahon> with the bash command, right?
[06:10] <pixelfairy> we made flightgear self contained too (our gutted version)
[06:11] <pixelfairy> jahon: what you mean?
[06:11] <jahon> sorry, i can't send msg commands.
[06:11] <jahon> meaning, a tarball
[06:12] <pixelfairy> i meant a directory
[06:12] <pixelfairy> so it could be distrubted as a tar ball
[06:12] <jahon> when i go to installing a deb file, it may ask me to remove some other file
[06:12] <pixelfairy> oh that
[06:12] <jahon> with tarballs, they don't ask at all.  just install right into the system.
[06:12] <pixelfairy> like totem-gstreamer / totem-xine?
[06:12] <pixelfairy> you can only have one
[06:12] <jahon> HELL YEAH
[06:13] <pixelfairy> jahon: at least you dont redownload when you switch between them
[06:13] <jahon> in gnome, i can't update it without removing something.
[06:13] <pixelfairy> unless you clear the apt-cache
[06:14] <jahon> oh no
[06:14] <pixelfairy> but for the other stuff, that still sucks
[06:14] <jahon> i keep all the files i get.
[06:14] <jahon> that way i don't have to redownload it after i break the system and have to renisntall again, again, and again....
[06:15] <pixelfairy> jahon: are you really having to do that?
[06:15] <jahon> yeah
[06:15] <pixelfairy> i hope you have a small / partition
[06:15] <pixelfairy> and a big storage space
[06:15] <jahon> my still learning linux.  when somthing gets jacked up, i'm not that good at fixing it yet.
[06:15] <pixelfairy> so you can keep tarballs or diskimages
[06:16] <pixelfairy> and restore
[06:16] <pixelfairy> oh
[06:16] <pixelfairy> well, dd is your friend
[06:16] <jahon> oh very small, bout 10gs
[06:16] <pixelfairy> ok
[06:16] <pixelfairy> do you know how to make diskimages?
[06:16] <jahon> not in linux, no.
[06:16] <pixelfairy> actually, your probalby better off with tar balls
[06:16] <jahon> who is dd?
[06:17] <pixelfairy> man dd
[06:17] <pixelfairy> im about to give you the crash course if you want it
[06:17] <pixelfairy> keep this for later
[06:17] <jahon> sure
[06:17] <pixelfairy> as in dont try it now
[06:17] <pixelfairy> first off, whats your other storage?
[06:17] <jahon> that's why i have notebook for linux.
[06:17] <pixelfairy> same system? over the network?
[06:17] <jahon> ntfs, and a fat32 usb drive
[06:18] <jahon> same system
[06:18] <pixelfairy> how bigs the usb drive?
[06:18] <jahon> 320
[06:18] <pixelfairy> gigs?
[06:18] <pixelfairy> megs?
[06:18] <jahon> gigs.
[06:18] <pixelfairy> cool
[06:18] <pixelfairy> do you have another linux partition or live cd to boot from?
[06:19] <jahon> no. i need to get a livecd.
[06:19] <pixelfairy> this kind of backup you want to do offline
[06:19] <jahon> really
[06:19] <pixelfairy> knoppix will be easier for this than the ubuntu live cd
[06:19] <pixelfairy> any system back up you wnat to do offline
[06:19] <pixelfairy> but ubuntu live cd is fine
[06:20] <pixelfairy> do you know the device and partiton of your / ?
[06:20] <jahon> ok.
[06:20] <pixelfairy> you can find out with "mount"
[06:20] <jahon> what do you mean?  the root?
[06:20] <pixelfairy> yea
[06:21] <pixelfairy> since ill forget to tell you later, i use / for root and ~ for home
[06:21] <pixelfairy> its kinda slang
[06:21] <pixelfairy> i mean ~ for your home
[06:21] <jahon> i should be able to.  i know kubuntu won't mount my usb drive. but if i look for the it elsewhere, it works.
[06:21] <pixelfairy> ??
[06:21] <jahon> ok
[06:21] <pixelfairy> it wont?
[06:21] <jahon> it's funny like that.
[06:22] <pixelfairy> jahon: well look at that later
[06:22] <pixelfairy> so whats the root device?
[06:22] <jahon> if i plug it in, it give me some error, but it is here.  it wants to mount it under sda1.  but if i look for the NAME of the usb drive, it works.
[06:22] <jahon> k
[06:22] <jahon> "/"
[06:22] <pixelfairy> the device its mounted on
[06:22] <SoBeIcedT> do i want breezy or dapper
[06:23] <Hobbsee> SoBeIcedT: breezy
[06:23] <jahon> yes.
[06:23] <pixelfairy> /dev/sda1 is the device for usb
[06:23] <jahon> and that don't work.
[06:23] <pixelfairy> but its mounted at /media/usbdisk or something
[06:23] <jahon> it is blank
[06:23] <jahon> yes.
[06:23] <pixelfairy> type mount, and msg me the output
[06:23] <jahon> k
[06:25] <jahon> jahon@unbuntu:~$ mount
[06:25] <pixelfairy> jahon: http://pixelfairy.org/unix_filesystem.html
[06:25] <jahon> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[06:26] <jahon> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[06:26] <jahon> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[06:26] <jahon> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[06:26] <jahon> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[06:26] <jahon> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[06:26] <jahon> "/dev/sda1 on /media/USBDRIVE type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[06:27] <pixelfairy> the irc client probalby skipped it, because it started with /
[06:27] <pixelfairy> but the line that starts with / is the one i want
[06:27] <jahon> i just notes that...  :)
[06:27] <Hobbsee> !tell jahon about pastebin
[06:27] <jahon> i need to get my msg working
[06:27] <pixelfairy> jahon: /msg someone hello
[06:28] <pixelfairy> jahon: did you get the url i sent you?
[06:28] <jahon> thanks
[06:28] <pixelfairy> its not really done yet
[06:28] <pixelfairy> but kinda tells you
[06:28] <pixelfairy> i wrote that for a friend who wanted to ditch windows
[06:28] <jahon> that's what i want to do.  but i can't just up and leave it yet.
[06:29] <jahon> there are still some files that i need to run.  like iconnecthere.
[06:29] <pixelfairy> your not going to erase anything
[06:29] <jahon> i got skype to work in 3 days.  that was hell.
[06:29] <jahon> oh no.
[06:29] <pixelfairy> this is backup
[06:29] <pixelfairy> so if you screw up you can go back
[06:30] <jahon> ok
[06:30] <pixelfairy> skype took 3 days?
[06:30] <pixelfairy> now im curious
[06:30] <pixelfairy> will have to look at that later
[06:30] <jahon> well, i had to stop and go to work to.
[06:30] <pixelfairy> oh
[06:30] <pixelfairy> still, when i tried it (on my bosses suse box) it just worked
[06:30] <jahon> yes, i have so may questions that need answering, you just don't know.
[06:30] <pixelfairy> thats what irc is for
[06:31] <pixelfairy> so anyway, boot to knoppix, and it will show you the devices
[06:31] <pixelfairy> or ubuntu live
[06:31] <avatarman> I have a question.
[06:31] <pixelfairy> and you would mount the usb disk
[06:31] <jahon> ok, livecd.
[06:31] <pixelfairy> then do something like this
[06:31] <jahon> ok
[06:32] <pixelfairy> dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/media/usbdisk/myroot.img
[06:32] <pixelfairy> if you screw up the boot sector
[06:32] <pixelfairy> then restore from that
[06:32] <pixelfairy> and then boot into it in rescue mode
[06:32] <pixelfairy> and type grub install /dev/hda
[06:32] <avatarman> When the new Kubuntu is released  -  will my 5.10 version just get updated via Adept/apt-get  or will I have to burn a new CD and install all over again?
[06:32] <pixelfairy> (or sda if you have sata or scsi)
[06:33] <sampan> avatarman  you'll be able to use apt to dist-upgrade
[06:33] <pixelfairy> oh yea, to restore just do it backwards
[06:33] <avatarman> cool
[06:33] <Stalin> avatar there will be an update procedure
[06:33] <avatarman> thanks sampan
[06:33] <sampan> avatarman  np :)
[06:33] <pixelfairy> dd if=/media/usbdisk/something.img of=/dev/hda3
[06:33] <pixelfairy> you can also pipe these through gzip for compression
[06:34] <pixelfairy> if = input file, of = output file, otherwise dd reads and write std i/o
[06:34] <pixelfairy> meaning pips
[06:34] <pixelfairy> dd if=/dev/hda3 | gzip - > myroot.img
[06:35] <jahon> ok
[06:35] <pixelfairy> jahon: dont worry about that now
[06:35] <pixelfairy> you can just gzip the image after
[06:35] <pixelfairy> wait, just realized something
[06:35] <pixelfairy> fat32 might have trouble with a 10 gig file
[06:35] <pixelfairy> can it handle that?
[06:36] <pixelfairy> you might have to pipe through gzip
[06:36] <pixelfairy> or bzip
[06:36] <jahon> how about i keep linux in about 5 gigs?  it doesn't need that much space from what i learned.
[06:36] <pixelfairy> 5 gigs is fine
[06:37] <pixelfairy> if you want to still use windows, make a 5 gig linux partition, a 5 gig windows one, a swap one, and data thats the rest
[06:37] <pixelfairy> and make that owned by you in linux
[06:37] <pixelfairy> or just mount it by hand yourself when you boot
[06:38] <pixelfairy> 10 gigs can be more breathing room to experiment
[06:38] <jahon> oh yeah.
[06:38] <pixelfairy> but you can always resize with qtpartimage
[06:38] <pixelfairy> from knoppix and probalby the ubuntu live cd
[06:38] <jahon> and what is the better filing system to use?
[06:39] <pixelfairy> jahon: for what?
[06:39] <jahon> linux
[06:39] <pixelfairy> ext3 (the ubuntu default) is fine
[06:39] <pixelfairy> ext2 can give you better battery life on a laptop, but not by much
[06:39] <pixelfairy> reiserfs is really nice
[06:39] <Stalin> yes
[06:39] <Stalin> i use reiserfs
[06:40] <pixelfairy> if you want performance and have some extra processing power, go with reiser
[06:40] <pixelfairy> if its older, than ext3
[06:40] <jahon> reiser 3 or 4?
[06:41] <pixelfairy> volumes can be written about choosing a filesystem
[06:41] <jahon> no, 4 is still to new...
[06:41] <pixelfairy> and at 5-10 gigs, it wont make much differnce
[06:41] <jahon> k
[06:42] <pixelfairy> jahon: i just realized this irc chat can be confusing. ill make a howto on my web site
[06:42] <pixelfairy> if your here in like an hour ill show you the link
[06:42] <pixelfairy> otherwise look later in http://pixelfairy.org/quickies
[06:42] <jahon> k
[06:43] <pixelfairy> you might find some cool stuff there anyway, but the wiki documentation page would be more usefull for now
[06:43] <jahon> that and if you don't mine, msg me your im name please.
[06:44] <pixelfairy> channel is better
[06:44] <pixelfairy> someone will correct me if i say something stupid
[06:44] <pixelfairy> jahon: what irc client do you use?
[06:44] <pixelfairy> i just /msged you
[06:45] <jahon> i see it
[06:45] <pixelfairy> ok cool
[06:45] <jahon> i use Konversation
[06:45] <jahon> but i need to register my name to the server
[06:45] <jahon> trying to set that up now.
[06:45] <pixelfairy> OH
[06:45] <pixelfairy> ok
[06:46] <jahon> and i'm going to copy and paste this info you gave me.
[06:46] <jahon> too much to write  lol
[06:47] <tulga> hi all! I cannot upgrade kde 3 to 4. lt-genshortcutents: cannot connect to X server. howto fix it?
[06:50] <johnflux> tulga: what command are you using to upgrade?
[06:50] <jahon> hey pix, i need to head out, how often do you log into here?
[06:50] <johnflux> tulga: when does it give that error?
[06:50] <tulga> I following that guide: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE3To4
[06:51] <tulga> kdelib install -> ../kdoctools/genshortcutents -o ../kdoctools/kde-standard-accels.entities
[06:51] <michael> I read that to start the secondlife alpha client I need to run malloc_check=0 first, does that make sense to anyone?  if so please be specific, I'm stuck
[06:53] <tulga> johnflux: "cannot connect to X server" mean kde-devel user haven't X access?
[06:54] <johnflux> tulga: at the risk of sounding very rude....
[06:54] <johnflux> tulga: don't upgrade if you don't know how to handle such errors :/
[06:55] <johnflux> tulga: kde 4 is very very new
[06:55] <johnflux> tulga: and us developers have difficulty compiling it
[06:55] <tulga> johnflux: this is my testing installation
[06:55] <Tm_T> johnflux: he's not really upgrading but installind next to kde 3.x I hope
[06:55] <johnflux> tulga: okay fair enough.  is it just looking for fun?
[06:56] <Tm_T> tulga: not much to test, I heard kate almost works
[06:56] <johnflux> Tm_T: :)
[06:57] <Tm_T> johnflux: aye, I need to get kopete compiled in KDE4 but have errors that I do know they're caused by me
[06:57] <Tm_T> johnflux: looks like I have to install kde4 stuff from scratch 8th time
[06:58] <tulga> Tm_T: did you upgraded KDE3to4?
[06:58] <johnflux> Tm_T: tell me about it.  I really should get ksysguard working again
[06:59] <Tm_T> tulga: I didn't upgrade but just installed kdelibs4_snapshot and related, and trying to get started to develop Kopete 1.0
[07:00] <Tm_T> tulga: I don't really use anything of it, just try to compile and when tha got done once, then code and try compile again etc
[07:00] <Tm_T> I don't think there's anything usable yet really
[07:01] <tulga> ko
[07:01] <Tm_T> breakfast etc, gone ->
[07:01] <tulga> ok
[07:02] <unix_infidel> what is gonf?
[07:02] <unix_infidel> or more specifically gconfd
[07:06] <crimsun> think of it as a Registry analogue
[07:07] <unix_infidel> crimsun: well its messing with my cpufreq configs  how can i prevent the daemon from startig up at boot?
[07:10] <_gtakito> how do I prevent my wifi from connecting to a specific network
[07:10] <_gtakito> it keeps jumping to the neighboors router, which has no internet
[07:13] <unix_infidel> crimsun: how do i get rid of it?
[07:13] <crimsun> unix_infidel: kill it
[07:14] <unix_infidel> crimsun: but it will still load up on boot right?
[07:14] <unix_infidel> oh well just gonna uninstall it.
[07:16] <crimsun> why is gconf being started for KDE, anyhow?
[07:25] <unix_infidel> crimsun: i installed bluefish
[07:26] <unix_infidel> crimsun: ill figure out how to disable it from startup later. bluefish only needs the libraries, not the daemon.
[08:01] <evilh> anyone on alive on here?
[08:03] <Hobbsee> evilh: quite possibly
[08:03] <evilh> there is life!!!
[08:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:03] <evilh> no!!!!!!
[08:04] <evilh> is there anyway to get the function keys on my laptop to work under linux?
[08:04] <Hobbsee> yes, see the keyboard modules in system settings
[08:05] <evilh> i've poked around in there. just has settings for numlock status on type rating things like that
[08:08] <Hobbsee> what make is the laptop?  sometimes' theres a package for it
[08:08] <evilh> hp pavilion ze5700
[08:13] <Hobbsee> try hotkey-setup, i've never tried it, but you might get lucky
[08:14] <evilh> yeah was just looking at that one
[08:23] <divansantana> Hello everyone! I am looking for IP scanning software, simply to scan range of IP's and see what is available.Does anyone know any sort of software for Ubuntu??
[08:25] <Hobbsee> divansantana: i'd try searching in adept for that
[08:27] <pixelfairy> ping
[08:35] <Stalin> divan yes
[08:36] <Nikitis> How do I go about installing Kubuntu with a dual boot with windows.  Using two separate drives, 1 dedicated for Kubuntu, and one for windows?
[08:36] <restagner> anybody had any luck installing Acrobat Reader 7.0 on Kubuntu?
[08:38] <evilh> guess he didnt get an answer quick enough
[08:40] <Melsen> Hey everybody... I got a question. I'm about to install a Citrix client... but on Citrix' homepage, it says it requires OpenMotif 2.2.3+
[08:40] <Melsen> what is that? And does anyone know what the apt package name is
[08:40] <Hobbsee> Melsen: apt-cache search motif
[08:40] <Melsen> about 400 hits
[08:40] <Melsen> damn
[08:42] <restagner> has anyone installed Acrobat Reader 7.0?
[08:42] <evilh> restagner: nope don't really need it
[08:42] <Stalin> !acrobat
[08:42] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stalin
[08:42] <Stalin> !acroread
[08:42] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stalin
[08:42] <restagner> ubotu: ok, i'll have a look
[08:42] <ubotu> restagner: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:43] <Hobbsee> restagner: i did ages ago, not recently but
[08:44] <Hobbsee> restagner: apt-cache search acroread
[08:44] <Hobbsee> use the ones you want
[08:44] <pixelfairy> evince is nice, but some pdfs really do need adobes acroread
[08:44] <pixelfairy> xpdf is nice too
[08:44] <restagner> ubotu: Doh! no luck
[08:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, restagner
[08:45] <Hobbsee> Melsen: you probably need libmotif-dev
[08:45] <Hobbsee> !info acroread
[08:45] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[08:46] <evilh> who wants to be stumped?
[08:47] <restagner> ubotu: where did you retrieve your information? that's what i'm looking for
[08:47] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, restagner
[08:47] <Hobbsee> evilh: possibly.  is this still about th ekeybindings?
[08:47] <evilh> no something else
[08:47] <Hobbsee> restagner: as in, how do you add to the bot?
[08:47] <Hobbsee> evilh: shoot
[08:47] <BlueDevil> restagner: ubotu is a bot
[08:48] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: *bang!*
[08:48] <restagner> BlueDevil: oops did not know that. thanks.
[08:48] <Hobbsee> !ubotu
[08:48] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:48] <Tm_T> ah, lovely
[08:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:48] <evilh> ok this is gonna take a while to properly explain but here goes: i have a windows xp pro machine with all my music on it attached to my nice stereo
[08:48] <Hobbsee> oh...one of these...
[08:49] <evilh> i want to play music on that machine but control the playlist from my linux machine
[08:49] <Tm_T> samba? ssh?
[08:49] <Hobbsee> and you want to play the music over your network share?
[08:49] <evilh> is there any way to do this
[08:49] <Hobbsee> oh, the other way around...right...
[08:49] <pixelfairy> vnc
[08:49] <pixelfairy> or set up a service, maybe with a web front end
[08:49] <Tm_T> aye
[08:49] <Hobbsee> no, the right way around.
[08:49] <pixelfairy> or X11 app from cygwin
[08:49] <brydenn> hey how do i make the menu transparent?
[08:50] <manveru> _the_menu_
[08:50] <manveru> ?
[08:50] <evilh> i basically want the music to play on my windows machine (and therefore my stereo) but conrtol it from my linux machine
[08:50] <Stalin> enable composite support brydenn
[08:50] <pixelfairy> evilh: the answers i gave
[08:50] <Hobbsee> ah...got no idea, check what the others said
[08:50] <pixelfairy> any of those, vnc is easiest
[08:50] <evilh> vnc = remote desktop right?
[08:50] <pixelfairy> theres probably way from xmms too
[08:51] <pixelfairy> yes
[08:51] <evilh> cause ive tried that it dont work
[08:51] <pixelfairy> the ms remote desktop wouldnt work
[08:51] <pixelfairy> vnc would because it doesnt care about sound
[08:51] <pixelfairy> well, maybe ms would work
[08:51] <pixelfairy> but vnc really sholdnt care
[08:51] <pixelfairy> how did it not work?
[08:52] <evilh> how do i set up vnc? im a noob so try to explain it as you would to a 12 year old
[08:52] <pixelfairy> get vnc from http://realvnc.com
[08:52] <Nikitis> I have a IT8211 Raid controller, I need for Kubuntu to recognize it before install, any guides on how to do that?
[08:52] <evilh> it tried to play the music on my linux machine which it cant do cause it tried to access direct sound which linux obviously doesnt have
[08:53] <pixelfairy> they should have instructions for the server side there
[08:53] <restagner> !info acroread
[08:53] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[08:53] <pixelfairy> no, linux has ALSA (and oss and esd, and artsd and jack...)
[08:53] <pixelfairy> but none of thats important for this
[08:53] <pixelfairy> anyway, in ubuntu, the the terminal server client also does vnc
[08:54] <pixelfairy> do you know the ip addresses?
[08:54] <Nikitis> Can anyone tell me how to load up iteraid.o when installing kubuntu?
[08:54] <evilh> yeah. im running DHCP so the windows machine is 192.168.1.100 and the linux is 192.168.1.101
[08:55] <pixelfairy> then in linux, use 192.168.1.100:0 for the vnc server on windows
[08:55] <pixelfairy> i dont know the vnc client in kubuntu
[08:56] <pixelfairy> anyone? vnc client in kubuntu?
[08:56] <evilh> Krdc i think
[08:56] <pixelfairy> there you go
[08:57] <pixelfairy> you probalby wont need the :0
[08:57] <pixelfairy> when you connect
[08:57] <pixelfairy> is the network wireless?
[08:57] <evilh> no
[08:57] <evilh> wired
[08:57] <pixelfairy> good
[08:57] <evilh> i hate wireless
[08:57] <pixelfairy> you can probably guess why thats a bad idea
[08:58] <evilh> i suck at networking and stuff as it is
[08:58] <Nikitis> How do I load up modules when installing kubuntu?
[08:59] <pixelfairy> qemu on mac is slow...
[08:59] <pixelfairy> at least for knoppix
[08:59] <xtreme> modprobe?
[09:00] <Nikitis> at the boot: prompt?
[09:01] <Melsen> Is there any software in Kubuntu/linux that allows me to mount a .img or .iso file as an accessible "drive" similar to what Daemon Tools does for windows? Does anyone know?
[09:03] <chakie_work> you can probably mount it using the loopback device
[09:03] <chakie_work> i guess there is even some kde tool for it
[09:03] <Xemanth^> i had kde service menu once which mounted iso and nrg images
[09:03] <chakie_work> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[09:04] <chakie_work> http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_detail.php?id_item=2190
[09:04] <chakie_work> google sure helps...
[09:04] <Melsen> thanks!!!!!
[09:04] <Xemanth^> exactly that MountISO i had
[09:04] <Xemanth^> :D
[09:59] <Skrot> Hi. Where do I set which parameters a module should be loaded with at boot?
[10:00] <Skrot> E.g I want ipw2200 to be loaded with led=1
[10:00] <mr-russ>  /etc/modules.conf?
[10:01] <Skrot> It holds a lot of aliases and stuff.. and it doesn't say anything about ipw2200
[10:20] <oyabinsama> hi
[10:21] <oyabinsama> i was wondering if there was a way in kubuntu (konqurour) to set it when browsing local filesystem to rather than automatically 'select/open' or 'select/goto dir' when single clicking - make it so u have to double click...
[10:21] <oyabinsama> cuz right now 1 single click and something opens even if you didnt' mean to do that
[10:22] <farous> oyabinsama, it was in a wierd position in kcontrol
[10:22] <farous> let me check it for you
[10:24] <farous> ok in a terminal type kcontrol. or open kde control center from the menu
[10:24] <farous> its under peripherals> mouse
[10:24] <oyabinsama> oo
[10:24] <oyabinsama> ok thankyous
[10:24] <farous> single or double click select
[10:25] <oyabinsama> woohoo
[10:25] <oyabinsama> happy now
[10:25] <farous> yw :)
[10:36] <Tonio_> hi all
[10:37] <Tonio_> I'm currently working on the default settings for kde on dapper, and I'd like to launch a little pool...
[10:37] <Tonio_> what is your average font size on the desktop ?
[10:38] <Tonio_> I personnaly use 8, but I'd liketo know the average size used to set it correctly...
[10:39] <Tonio_> hi lpa
[10:39] <Tonio_> jpatrick
[10:40] <jpatrick> morning Tonio_ - how are you today?
[10:40] <Tonio_> fine and you ? ready for the membership ?
[10:41] <Tonio_> you are presenting to the CC today right ?
[10:41] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I'm fine (doing homework) - Yep I'm ready :)
[10:41] <Tonio_> you'll get my support ;)
[10:41] <chakie_work> Tonio_: 10
[10:42] <Tonio_> jpatrick: may I ask you something ? what is your default font size for kde ? I'd like to get the average to set it correctly in dapper
[10:42] <jpatrick> Tonio_: thanks :)
[10:42] <jpatrick> lemme check
[10:42] <Tonio_> chakie_work: thx, and your dpi plz ? because sometimes 10 is damn smal depending the dpi
[10:43] <Tonio_> in dapper dpi will probably be set to 100 to avoid the font size problem in xorg....
[10:43] <chakie_work> Tonio_: can't remember straight off (that's my primary display at home)
[10:43] <chakie_work> 100 i think
[10:43] <Tonio_> chakie_work: okay, thanks ;)
[10:43] <jpatrick> Tonio_: mine's set on Sans Serif 8 (anti-aliasing)
[10:43] <chakie_work> not sure though :) it can probably be calculated using some pythagoras
[10:44] <Tonio_> okay, so for the moment 8 is by far the most choosen
[10:44] <jpatrick> Tonio_: when my fonts are messed up I restart X
[10:44] <Tonio_> that's not surprising, that's the default rendering of windows and osx for example...
[10:45] <Tonio_> jpatrick: that's a pain, really, worg makes really strange things on some computers.... but there is a way to avoid that
[10:45] <Tonio_> forcing dpi to 100 in kdmrc resolves the problem on any machines I've tried
[10:49] <sml> does anyone know how to get back your XFCE4 desktop right click menu when using ROX-DESKTOP?
[10:50] <Tonio_> sml: nope, sorry.... only a very few people here are using xfce....
[10:50] <Tonio_> sml: /j #xfce snhould be better for that question ;)
[10:51] <jpatrick> or #xubuntu
[10:51] <sml> thanks guys .. will try .. btw .. i have another question ...
[10:52] <sml> can you boot the live kubuntu to ram?
[10:52] <sml> like a TORAM or COPY2RAM option?
[11:00] <hawking> which package should i install for php?
[11:02] <razvan> hello, i'm a first time linux user user. i just installed ubuntu and i ca'nt figure out how to get and install an nVidia
[11:02] <razvan> driver
[11:03] <farous> !+nivida
[11:03] <ubotu> farous: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:03] <razvan> thanx
[11:03] <farous> !+nvida
[11:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[11:03] <farous> !+nvidia
[11:03] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:03] <farous> razvan, there it is ^ ^
[11:05] <razvan> i'm working on it
[11:15] <razvan> it works. i have to restart
[11:15] <farous> good luck
[11:22] <razvan> codecs
[11:22] <razvan> video codecs
[11:23] <farous> !restrictedformats
[11:23] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:24] <razvan> !video codecs
[11:24] <ubotu> razvan: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:25] <farous> razvan, look at the restircted formats links its for audio and dvd
[11:25] <razvan> k
[11:32] <kameron> my mouse stopped working out of nowhere, no cursor, clicking does nothing. is there a process or daemon i can kill and relaunch to get things rolling again, so i don't have to restart x?
[12:03] <jpatrick> hello Kamping_Kaiser
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi jpatrick :)
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's been happening here? not much by the look of it ;/
[12:05] <jpatrick> not a lot
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[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> now, a serious question:
[12:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> if i use `w` and `who`, and niether show users as being logged on, i should start to worry, right?
[12:07] <farous> Kamping_Kaiser, that is strange yah
[12:07] <farous> !info who
[12:08] <jpatrick> :/
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> i clean installed this box because i was worried about compromise, and took my home forward... now I'm thiniking that may have been a bad idea
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> :/
[12:08] <farous> !info coreutils
[12:08] <ubotu> coreutils: (The GNU core utilities), section base, is required. Version: 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1028 kB, Installed size: 7536 kB
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser>  21:42:12 up 1 day,  1:37,  0 users,  load average: 0.84, 0.65, 0.47
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ^ it's kinda scary
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> 0 users...
[12:15] <farous> Kamping_Kaiser, could it be that you are logged in as root. mm it should say 1 user at least
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i don't log in as root :/ I'm a bit cluey (no offence root users)
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it should say at least 2 - one for Gnome and one for the terminal
[12:16] <farous> are you sure you do not have broken packages
[12:17] <farous> coreutils is the package that own who and w
[12:57] <_tomas> hi everyone :)
[12:57] <_tomas> is there anyone who have time to help me?
[12:58] <_tomas> i want to get my Pinnacle PCTV Stereo working in Kubuntu
[12:58] <_tomas> it worked perfectly in Mandrake :/
[01:16] <sihen> Hello all
[01:16] <sihen> tell me where can I find themes to change my tool bar on kubuntu?
[01:16] <sihen> ie the bottom bar, look and feel
[01:18] <sihen> anyone?
[01:18] <edwin> hello
[01:19] <edwin> anybody home ?
[01:20] <sihen> hello edwin
[01:20] <sihen> hows iburst :)
[01:21] <NRG88> how can i update to kde 3.51 through adetpt updater?
[01:21] <edwin> alas
[01:21] <edwin> hi sihen
[01:21] <edwin> howz u ?
[01:22] <knubbe> NRG88: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[01:22] <monteiro> which is the best tool to download from a proxy ftp server ?
[01:22] <NRG88> thanks
[01:22] <knubbe> sihen: right-click on it?
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[01:23] <sihen> knubbe ?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> edwin: why the spam?
[01:24] <knubbe> sihen: right-click on the tool bar?
[01:25] <edwin> i didn't do anything
[01:25] <knubbe> sihen: and choose "customize panel" or whatever its called in english
[01:25] <edwin> System.out.println("Custom Panel");
[01:27] <NRG88> where does adept keep the repository list?
[01:27] <NRG88> souces.list?
[01:27] <NRG88> i messed it up :(
[01:29] <NRG88> found it...
[01:30] <sihen> knubbe: im talking about completly changing its look
[01:30] <sihen> different icons and everything
[01:35] <knubbe> ok, im not sure then. the background can be changed there. but you can change KDE's theme, that would probably change the panel too
[01:36] <knubbe> System settings -> Personal -> Appearence
[01:36] <knubbe> there you can change the icons etc.
[01:37] <sihen> thanks
[01:43] <MASH4077> does anyone know if there is a kbfx package for kubuntu?
[01:46] <finite9> can someone help??  Im trying to install ATI drivers on amd64 laptop with 15" display (kubuntu breezy) but the window is too long for the screen and there are no scroll bars.  How can I see the bottom of the window??
[01:48] <Hobbsee> finite9: hold alt, cilck and drag
[01:48] <Hobbsee> !info kbfx
[01:48] <Hobbsee> MASH4077: there isnt
[01:49] <MASH4077> Hobbsee: are there any issues with compiling in kubuntu?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> MASH4077: not sure - try it
[01:50] <Hobbsee> i've never tried compiling kbfx
[01:51] <MASH4077> Hobbsee: is there a program to compile it in kubuntu or just use the terminal?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> i think there is, somewhere - but terminal seems easier
[01:54] <MASH4077> Hobbsee: thanks, downloading now and I will give it a go
[01:54] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:59] <howcomes> Can anyone help me install the fglrx driver on the 2.6.15ck1 kernel ?
[02:00] <dipnlik> hi all. can anyone confirm the package that contains kubuntu default icons? https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/30323 for info
[02:03] <finite9> Hobbsee: thanks for the tip - why does this happen in some apps??
[02:03] <cRoMo> Hi. I was thinking about how to improve my kde booting performance and found some tips on kde wiki. I am using Dapper and surprisingly /usr/bin/preloadkde doesn't exist here.The script from http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips contains paths that suits some other distro. Anyone got paths set optimized for Debian/Ubuntu? Shouldn't this script be provided in stock, so KUbuntu boots faster?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> finite9: because they're stupid.  I'm not sure exactly why :P
[02:06] <finite9> one more question--how do i tell if an installed package is 64-bit or not?
[02:07] <Hobbsee> er...does it have 64 in the package name?
[02:08] <finite9> no...i got vlc from multiverse package but how do i know its 64bit?
[02:09] <finite9> reason i ask is becuase i found a guide for firefox 1.5 install, but its only 32bit so i had to dl ia-32 libs to let 32bit packages run in 64bit env. or something like that, so then i got to thinking...how do i tell if an installed package really is 64bit
[02:12] <Melsen> Whats the difference between an imap account and a disconnected imap account (setting up kmail)
[02:19] <jpatrick> hello kkathman
[02:19] <kkathman> hi there jpatrick :)
[02:28] <howcomes> How can i increase my gamma? (ATI Control isnt loading for some reason)
[02:31] <dipnlik> how can i confirm if the kubuntu-default-settings package contains the default kubuntu theme? i filed a bug about some of the default icons and need some more info now...
[02:35] <Melsen> Anyone here who has any experience with kmail?
[02:35] <Melsen> Or that whole contact module thingie in kubuntu?
[02:37] <dipnlik> Melsen: just ask your question
[02:39] <tecs> is there no automatix like program for detecting printers?
[02:39] <Melsen> Well.. I've noticed that when I set up a imap mail account, it asks me if I want an 'Imap' account, or 'disconnected imap' account.. whats the difference?
[02:41] <Melsen> And then I get this really annoying error from the program about not being able to open some strange sub folders it creates.
[02:41] <dipnlik> Melsen: from what i read, disconnected imap is related to using a Kolab server. I use an IMAP account withoput problems
[02:42] <dipnlik> Melsen: try a standard IMAP account, if it works fine and has extra PIM-related folders, just remove them
[02:42] <Melsen> dipnlik: Whats with all these extra folders it creates then? Desktop, GNUstep, mail and tmp... all these folders gives me error each time it checks for mail
[02:43] <dipnlik> wow
[02:43] <dipnlik> something wrong in your config
[02:43] <dipnlik> these folders are from your home directory!
[02:44] <dipnlik> but i don't know how to fix this, unfortunately
[02:45] <Melsen> Wonder why the hell it makes those
[02:45] <dipnlik> if I were you, i'd remove the account in kmail, check the imap account using webmail or something like that to see if it is ok, then readding the account using standard imap
[02:46] <dipnlik> Melsen: not sure if it is a bug or something wrong in your config
[02:46] <Melsen> Hrmm
[02:46] <pm> is it true that dupa?
[02:47] <pm> is it true that kernel has got dupa?
[02:51] <_simon> hello
[02:51] <_simon> does anybody know automatix?
[02:52] <_simon> or can i use the flashplugin with konqueror?
[02:52] <Melsen> Ohhh... dipnlik : I got this weird thing in my webmail called 'webdisk'.. and there I can see the 4 folders it automatically creates inside the kmail client..
[02:52] <Melsen> odd.
[02:53] <dipnlik> _simon: automatix is dangerous, use easyubuntu instead
[02:53] <_simon> dipnlink: where can i find easyubuntu?
[02:54] <TranceDude> Hi I have a question about grub
[02:54] <TranceDude> how can i change the default value of grub: so i mean how can i set grub to boot automatically another os ?
[02:54] <dipnlik> Melsen: weird. but you can right click the folder in kmail and exclude it from mail checks, this won't solve the problem but will stop the error from popping
[02:55] <dipnlik> TranceDude: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:55] <_simon> dipnlink: where can i find easyubuntu?
[02:55] <TranceDude> yes but i'm a newbie
[02:56] <TranceDude> what exactly do i have to change ?
[02:56] <dipnlik> TranceDude: the file is easy to understand and intuitive, IIRC
[02:56] <TranceDude> i just want to load my other OS that is already in grub
[02:56] <dipnlik> !easyubuntu
[02:56] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:56] <_simon> thanks
[02:57] <TranceDude> and what if i change thewrong thing
[02:57] <TranceDude> how can i undo it then?
[02:57] <TranceDude> suppose grub is not working anymore,
[02:57] <TranceDude> ?
[02:57] <_simon> dipnlink: i have kubuntu
[02:58] <_simon> dipnlink: is their any keasykubuntu available
[02:59] <Melsen> Anyone here who successfully have installed a citrix client on linux?
[03:00] <TranceDude> anybody who can explain me
[03:00] <TranceDude> what i have to change in /boot/grub/menu.lst to switch to my second os?
[03:01] <Nomad411> Melsen: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE on top.. Chances are that link of yours is fine for K too
[03:01] <Melsen> Pardon me?
[03:01] <jpatrick> Melsen: sorry, I believe he was talking to _simon
[03:02] <Melsen> Oh
[03:02] <Melsen> no wonder I got confused
[03:02] <dipnlik> TranceDude: not sure since i don't mess with grub for a long time, sorry
[03:02] <Nomad411> oops, yes sorry..
[03:02] <TranceDude> ok
[03:02] <Nomad411> Melsen, Tell Simon.. lol  I got to wake up!
[03:02] <dipnlik> TranceDude: you could paste your menu.lst in kubuntu.pastebin.com
[03:04] <TranceDude> ah I see, but in most of the cases it's just changing default=0 to default=1 right?
[03:05] <jjesse> how do i change my default editor from vi back to nano?
[03:06] <dipnlik> TranceDude: yes, something like that
[03:07] <TranceDude> ok thx
[03:07] <TranceDude> but do you have an idea what i can do when i messed up grub? :D
[03:07] <TranceDude> i mean: what if grub does not boot anymore, how can i get into my terminal then to edit the file again?
[03:08] <dipnlik> TranceDude: well, if you only change the default line, you should be safe, i think
[03:09] <TranceDude> is there a way i can make a linux boot disk?
[03:09] <TranceDude> and how can i do this is (k)ubuntu?
[03:09] <TranceDude> is = in
[03:10] <NRG88> after updating the KDE, the harddrives dissapeared from Storage Media, how can i add them there?
[03:10] <mathias> someone can tell me when ubuntu will release firefox 1.5 in the backports!?
[03:10] <mathias> :P
[03:10] <NRG88> mathias: i used automatix to install firefox 1.5
[03:11] <mathias> hum... i'll google about this
[03:12] <NRG88> just google automatix :)
[03:14] <Tm_T> no
[03:14] <jjesse> anyone know hwo to change the default editor in the shell from vi to nano?
[03:14] <Tm_T> no automatix no!
[03:14] <Tm_T> !automatix
[03:14] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.
[03:15] <Tm_T> !easyubuntu
[03:15] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[03:15] <jjesse> !default editor
[03:15] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jjesse
[03:15] <Tm_T> capiche?
[03:15] <Tm_T> jjesse: what about it?
[03:16] <jjesse> Tm_T: for some  reason my default editor has changed from nano to vi in the shell
[03:16] <jjesse> how do i change it back
[03:16] <lunitik> Anyone know if anything extra is required for Webcam support on the MSN protocol via Kopete, or are all codecs etc included in the package?
[03:16] <NRG88> can easyubuntu be used on Kubuntu to?
[03:17] <Tm_T> NRG88: ofcourse
[03:18] <NRG88> anyone can help me with the dissapearing harddrives from a Storage Media after updating the KDE?
[03:18] <lunitik> Anyone gotten webcam support to work on Kubuntu via Kopete?
[03:18] <Tm_T> lunitik: I do
[03:18] <lunitik> Tm_T: ahh... its you again  :P
[03:18] <lunitik> Tm_T: worked right out of the box?
[03:18] <Tm_T> yes, after I compiled drivers
[03:20] <lunitik> Tm_T: I don't want to send, just receive... my webcam is USB, and I killed this boxes USB ports somehow while transfering motherboard...
[03:20] <Tm_T> lunitik: ok, then, you do have port 6891 open and forwarded?
[03:21] <lunitik> Tm_T: I should... yes...
[03:21] <Tm_T> hum
[03:21] <Tm_T> and sending client is what?
[03:21] <lunitik> MSN Messenger (whatever latest version is)
[03:22] <Tm_T> ok
[03:22] <Tm_T> dunno then for sure what it could be, check bugs.kde.org if there's related bug filed
[03:22] <Tm_T> if not, consider track problem down and file bug
[03:22] <lunitik> Tm_T: alright... thanks
[03:23] <Tm_T> np
[03:23] <lunitik> Tm_T: its more likely than not that I messed up forwarding port actually... I'll try inside of router, if that works... then thats likely the issue...
[03:23] <Tm_T> lunitik: allwhat you can do for hunting it down helps a much us, so thank you :)
[03:27] <lunitik> Windows trys to forward automagically?
[03:28] <kyd> hey can anyone tell me what the apt-get command is to install the essentials
[03:28] <Tm_T> lunitik: well, might be that that f*cking msn protocol is highly restricted by MS
[03:28] <Tm_T> kyd: what you mean? apt-get install foo (where foo is packagename you wan't to install) ?
[03:28] <lunitik> kyd: define essentials?
[03:28] <jpatrick> lunitik: direct connecting to machines ? there's SSH and VNC..
[03:29] <lunitik> jpatrick: I meant via messengers....
[03:29] <jpatrick> oh right
[03:29] <kyd> when i installed ubuntu someone said in order to be able to 'make' i need to build the essentials and they gave me an apt-get build command
[03:29] <lunitik> kyd: apt-get install build-essentials
[03:29] <kyd> oh rite lol i missed the - out :) thanks
[03:29] <Tm_T> lunitik: use some open protocol ;)
[03:30] <cRoMo> I have no keyboard layouts to choose from, since upgrading to 3.5.1 packages. Is this a known bug? I had no timezones too, but today's update fixed it
[03:30] <lunitik> Tm_T: its not as easy as that... friends use other things... rather talk to them on a closed protocol than not at all...
[03:31] <lunitik> Tm_T: trying to get about 200 people to download a different client, and get used to it just because its a closed protocol is pretty difficult...
[03:31] <Tm_T> lunitik: true, so don't blame opensource of it, we (community as whole) do our best, if big greedy companies try to restrict users, they do it
[03:31] <Tm_T> life is ;(
[03:31] <kyd> ok i typed in the apt-get install build-essentials but it says it couldn't find package to build essentials  ??
[03:32] <lunitik> Tm_T: I don't blame anyone...
[03:32] <lunitik> kyd: meh... without the last s
[03:32] <lunitik> sorry
[03:32] <kyd> lols thanks :) working now
[03:33] <lunitik> kyd: another helpful command... if you're compiling kopete for instance... 'apt-get build-dep kopete' will get you everything it depends for building...
[03:33] <kyd> oh rite cheers, didnt know tht
[03:35] <Hamster> are there any problems in running a mixed breezy/dapper environment? Much in the same way under deb you can run a mixed testing/unstable (for example) ?
[03:36] <cRoMo> no one else has this keyboard layouts bug?
[03:37] <Hamster> cRoMo: no, my usual layouts are still here (running 3.5.1)
[03:41] <cRoMo> Hamster: maybe I have uninstalled somthing? Damn
[03:44] <Hamster> cRoMo: I have no idea sorry... I really don't understand how that whole layouts thing works! What happens if you go into setup and try setting it up again?
[03:46] <cRoMo> I have no layouts to choose from, nothing! that's the problem
[03:47] <cRoMo> it is for people with non-standard keyboards, e.g. those having multimedia keys
[03:47] <cRoMo> particurarly for laptop users
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS|HUN> anybody can give me tips for tweaking my performance?
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS|HUN> about 3d
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS|HUN> optimizing drivers etc?
[03:53] <cRoMo> anyone is using aterm or rxvt-unicode with pseudo-transparance?
[03:54] <dipnlik> !firefox1.5
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:57] <msemtd> Hi all, I upgraded to Breezy from Hoary yesterday and lost sound in the process. Any ideas?
[04:05] <msemtd> Hi all, I upgraded to Breezy from Hoary yesterday and lost sound in the process. I've tried everything I could find in the wiki/forums regarding sound problems. What else can I try?
[04:05] <Tm_T> what sounds you lost?
[04:05] <Tm_T> notifications or _all_
[04:05] <msemtd> All sound
[04:06] <Tm_T> msemtd: can you try run mpg321 from console=
[04:06] <Tm_T> ?
[04:06] <msemtd> all sound has gone - aplay as root is silent - shall try mpg123
[04:07] <Tm_T> ok
[04:07] <Tm_T> it if returns any errors, please tell;)
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> anyone happen to know a linux replacement of foobar2000?
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> s/linux/linux's
[04:08] <msemtd> ok, mpg123 complains "Can't open default sound device!"
[04:08] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: no, but JuK is good
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm
[04:08] <Tm_T> msemtd: ok, can you try that with sudo ?
[04:09] <msemtd> ok, sudo mpg123 whatever.mp3 also complains "Can't open default sound device!"
[04:10] <Tm_T> heh, now "killall artsd" and retry
[04:10] <msemtd> ok, 2 processes killed...
[04:10] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: lol, JuK looks similar to amaroK
[04:10] <Tm_T> I'm glad I don't have to use it =)
[04:10] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: nope, totally different approach
[04:11] <msemtd> still not happy! "Can't open default sound device!"
[04:11] <Tm_T> :o
[04:11] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: well, from the UI, it has one of those WMP lookalike interface, where you click just to get to certain places
[04:11] <msemtd> my  /dev/dsp looks ok permissions wise
[04:11] <msemtd> ...and I'm a member of audio group
[04:12] <kyd> how do i go about setting a firefox icon on my desktop,
[04:12] <hatake_kakashi> msemtd: check to see if artsd is under ps listing
[04:12] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: create a shortcut pointing to it
[04:12] <kyd> ive tried but when i cant find the actual firefox program in /opt/firefox
[04:12] <msemtd> yes, artsd keeps coming back
[04:13] <Tm_T> msemtd: disable it?
[04:13] <msemtd> um, howzat?
[04:13] <Tm_T> kcontrol -> sound -> kde sound system
[04:13] <msemtd> ...and set it to none?
[04:13] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: it should be under /usr/bin unless if you build it from source yourself
[04:14] <kyd> i did
[04:14] <Tm_T> msemtd: just disable it
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: type file /opt/firefox
[04:14] <kyd> ok i'll try it
[04:14] <Tm_T> msemtd: there's tickbox "enable KDE Sound system"
[04:14] <msemtd> ok, disabled and sudo mpg123 is playing but silent
[04:14] <NRG88> how can i install easyubuntu
[04:14] <NRG88> ?
[04:14] <Tm_T> msemtd: uh, progress
[04:15] <msemtd> alsamixer shows all non-muted
[04:15] <Tm_T> msemtd: check wiring?
[04:15] <Tm_T> ;)
[04:15] <NRG88> i've downloaded http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/EasyUbuntu-lastest.tar.bz2
[04:15] <msemtd> hehehe - it worked fine yesterday
[04:15] <Tm_T> msemtd: still, doublecheck
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: actually, the default installation points to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox and that itself is a bash executable script
[04:15] <msemtd> ...but checking wiring anyhow!
[04:16] <Tm_T> msemtd: I lost second speaker yesterday because I had loose contact
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> !EasyUbuntu
[04:16] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:16] <kyd> hatake_kakashi i installed it myself following an article on digg, it was installed to /opt i think
[04:17] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: well using the app 'file' it will tell you what it is.. I believe you need to look for the bash executable script
[04:17] <msemtd> ok, just tried speakers in a different (but identical) machine - boy the volume is high!
[04:17] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: the bash executable script should contain env variables, etc relevant for firefox I think
[04:17] <kyd> ah i found the bash script, do i link that to the desktop
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: yeah try that first
[04:18] <kyd> great its working thanks
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: if you don't use artsd which sound daemon do you use for KDE then? :)
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> kyd: np
[04:18] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: no sound daemon at all
[04:19] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: eh? so you don't listen to sound, etc?
[04:19] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: alsa, plug:dmix and alsplayer as notification player
[04:19] <kyd> now is there any way to change the icon of it from the gear to the icon in the icons folder
[04:19] <msemtd> hmm, headphone jack silent too
[04:20] <Tm_T> kyd: rightclick and configure
[04:20] <Melsen> Uhmmmm
[04:20] <Tm_T> there must be big sticker in every monitor saying "try rightclick"
[04:20] <msemtd> If this machine wasn't running samba for the company I'd boot to a knoppix CD to test
[04:20] <msemtd> ...actually I might try that anyway!
[04:21] <Mez> hmm
[04:21] <Mez> does anyone know how I can play this: mms://edge.channel4.com/theitcrowd/episode3.wmv in linux?
[04:21] <hatake_kakashi> msemtd: if it is running you can check it via lsof| grep samba or lsof| grep smbd
[04:21] <msemtd> Mez: videolan?
[04:21] <hatake_kakashi> Mez: you need something like vlc
[04:21] <Melsen> How do you use easyubuntu? I just downloaded and extracted it.. no feature to run/use/install it tho
[04:21] <hatake_kakashi> !vlc
[04:21] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen: go check out their channel first
[04:22] <Mez> hmm
[04:22] <Mez> I thought mplayer would play it
[04:22] <Mez> obv not
[04:22] <msemtd> hatake_kakashi: yup, samba's running ok - plenty of users!
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> msemtd: well, there ya go.. in fact, smbstatus will tell you more information
[04:22] <NRG88> anyone know how to install easyubuntu? noone replies at #easyubuntu :(
[04:23] <msemtd> good tip! smbstatus is rather sweet
[04:23] <Tm_T> NRG88: sorry, haven't used it
[04:23] <Melsen> hatake_kakashi: Been there done that.. noone answers in there tho.
[04:24] <Mez> hatake_kakashi, it wont open it
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen and NRG88: easyubuntu works with ubuntu, why are you asking in the kubuntu channel? if you use kubuntu you may have errors, etc
[04:25] <Melsen> I see.
[04:26] <NRG88> WHAT? they said that easyubuntu works fine with kubuntu
[04:26] <NRG88> i have uninstalled automatix, and it took down my kde
[04:26] <Mez> hmm
[04:26] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: you could probably try, I never tried it myself, but if something goes wrong, you will have to fix it yourself
[04:26] <Mez> lets see if my PSP will play it
[04:26] <Mez> if not
[04:26] <Mez> reboot into windows it seems
[04:27] <msemtd> ok, so no sound - I guess I'll bring the machine up with Knoppix and see if the card was fried!
[04:28] <msemtd> brb :)
[04:29] <hatake_kakashi> Mez: do you happen to know if fb2k will play what you said above? if so, then you may need to configure it alittle bit to make fb2k work with wine
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen and NRG88: I'm not going to endorse this but if you still persist. Generally speaking, you need to untar/ungzip the archive, and then you look for README file or something like that
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> Mez: or there is that ugly option of installing the required dlls for WMP and use WMP or winamp
[04:33] <NRG88> hatake_kakashi: can't find any readmefile
[04:33] <hatake_kakashi> hmm :S
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: try that .desktop file
[04:36] <hatake_kakashi> actually, NRG88 you need python, and you run it through python I think
[04:36] <NRG88> KDEInit could not launch 'gksu'.:
[04:36] <NRG88> Could not find 'gksu' executable.
[04:36] <NRG88> python?
[04:36] <NRG88> adept? :)
[04:36] <msemtd> Hi all, just got back from booting to Knoppix 4.02 to test sound:"Initiating startup sequence"! as expected (and very loud!)
[04:36] <hatake_kakashi> its another language.. yeah probably
[04:37] <NRG88> python installed, when i try to run it, i get:
[04:37] <NRG88>   File "./easyubuntu.py", line 21, in ?
[04:37] <NRG88>     import gtk, gtk.glade
[04:37] <NRG88> ImportError: No module named gtk
[04:37] <NRG88> is it missing something?
[04:37] <Chousuke> install python-gtk something
[04:37] <hatake_kakashi> yes, you need to get those probably, and probably glade
[04:37] <Chousuke> search with apt.
[04:37] <visik7> anyone able to play this http://www.105.net/Player04/104_64.asx <- on windows works on linux no way with xine or mplayer
[04:38] <feistel> hi
[04:38] <feistel> I have a problem with Kaffeine
[04:39] <feistel> I can play Xvid movies
[04:39] <feistel> sorry
[04:39] <feistel> I can't play Xvid movies
[04:39] <THC4k> hmm i use but the sounds doesnt work properly ... amarok using alsa doesnt work at all, oss stops alot making wired noises and some of the other gstreamer options just crash amarok or do nothing ... i have a nforce4 card, maybe thats the problem? maybe someone got a similar setup ..
[04:39] <feistel> only can play the sound
[04:39] <feistel> perhaps I need xine plugins, don't?
[04:39] <feistel> anyone can help me, please?
[04:40] <NRG88> hatake_kakashi: do i need to install glade?
[04:40] <NRG88> python-glade2?
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: yeah, you may need to install any missing stuff you may encounter
[04:41] <NRG88> ok, working :D
[04:41] <NRG88> thnx
[04:42] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: no guarentees if something breaks :P you are on your own.. I wonder who recommended you to use easyubuntu on kubuntu anyway? they are the one who should be helping you lol
[04:43] <NRG88> don't remember but someone from here, saying automatix is not good :)
[04:43] <NRG88> and to install easyubuntu instead
[04:43] <jjesse> !automatix
[04:43] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does other harmful things like "echo -e 'ynY\n'" that are considered security risks. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications but the best thing is to read documentation.
[04:44] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: why not easyubuntu in kubuntu? same system from installers point of view
[04:45] <NRG88> doesn't work
[04:45] <msemtd> ok, trying an older kernel: sound works but not under latest Breezy - boy I miss my lugradio!
[04:45] <NRG88> when i select the options, and hit ok
[04:46] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: well, I have not seen easyubuntu being referred on kubuntu.. granted the only difference between ubuntu/kubuntu only lies in the wm/de side, however, there maybe some issues with regards to configuration, etc
[04:46] <NRG88> looks like i'll be going back to automatix ):-\
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: another funny little thing is.. without being too harsh, it looks like easyubuntu is still in its early forms
[04:47] <Tm_T> it is
[04:47] <Tm_T> I never tested it
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: nor have I
[04:47] <Tm_T> but one thing is sure, I recommend it over automatix
[04:47] <MetaMorfoziS> !nvidia-tweak
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> and I don't know whats the go with automatix anyway
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> -_-
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> I don't even use it, let alone understand it, except that its bad but its like some sort of automated installer?
[04:48] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[04:48] <Tm_T> yes, badly done one
[04:48] <NRG88> i'm new to linux, and can't turn on dma, install nvidia video card drivers... etc
[04:49] <Tm_T> NRG88: you can
[04:49] <Tm_T> NRG88: all you need to do is open your mind to learn new things
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: for starters man hdparm
[04:49] <MetaMorfoziS> NRG88: mi kne?
[04:49] <Tm_T> and give a time for it, learning is good! ;)
[04:49] <MetaMorfoziS> nvida driverem mar van
[04:49] <MetaMorfoziS> most tweakelem
[04:49] <MetaMorfoziS> azaz szeretnem
[04:50] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: ok
[04:50] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: you can also /msg ubotu
[04:50] <Tm_T> if you have problems with it
[04:50] <msemtd> hmm, just found something simillar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9360&postcount=4
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: oh, btw, I got the nvidia drivers to work, but it seems slow lol, I may need to uncomment those previously commented lines as mentioned from the wiki
[04:51] <NRG88> hdparm?
[04:51] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: =)
[04:51] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: yeah, there's always something to improve ;)
[04:51] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: but it's part of learning
[04:52] <MetaMorfoziS> !splashscreen
[04:52] <Tm_T> I just learned today to do deb packages proper way
[04:52] <ubotu> splashscreen is probably to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: I'm still tempted to try the latest one, the kernel are being built on gcc3.4.5 and they don't have it in the repos.. gcc4.0.1 targets to i486 rather than i686, and ubuntu's 2.6.12 kernel only looks for gcc3.4.. now tell me about these funny things
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> !tell NRG88 hdparm
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> !tell NRG88 about hdparm
[04:53] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: hum, I'm in dapper ;)
[04:53] <Tm_T> so I sort of got newest automatically ;)
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: 'man hdparm' type that in konsole/console and read about it
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: newest nvidia kernel or?
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> MetaMorfoziS: apt-cache search nvidia| less
[04:56] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: yes, as far I know, newest nvidia drivers
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody installed the newest nvidia driver on kubuntu?
[04:56] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: which ver have you got then? -_-
[04:57] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm downloaded it but it's crashed with alot oferror
[04:57] <visik7> anyone able to play this http://www.105.net/Player04/104_64.asx <- on windows works on linux no way with xine or mplayer
[04:59] <bcfc> can any one tell me how to get/install the xine engine for amarak becuase its not in the resp. list?
[05:00] <Riddell> ** I need breezy users to test the new koffice
[05:00] <Riddell> bcfc: universe
[05:00] <Riddell> !universe
[05:00] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:01] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: 1.0.8178
[05:01] <Riddell> hmm, easysource.  hmm
[05:01] <bcfc> ive enabled the universe ones
[05:01] <bcfc> but it dont show up
[05:02] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm, and that's in dapper's depos?
[05:02] <Tm_T> yes
[05:03] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: heh, I'll probably give it a try, the latest one whilst on breezy
[05:03] <Tm_T> ok
[05:06] <pm> hello ubotu
[05:06] <pm> terrible weather, isn't it/
[05:09] <Foodcoman> Morning
[05:19] <imagemaker> hi everyone
[05:20] <VincentMX> hi
[05:21] <imagemaker> hi VincentMX
[05:21] <VincentMX> :D
[05:21] <imagemaker> :-)
[05:22] <imagemaker> I joined this cahnnel because I am so stoked at how great my new kubuntu system is
[05:23] <VincentMX> i like it a lot
[05:24] <imagemaker> yes, same, I have been looking to say farewell to microsoft for some time now, I finally succeeded :-)
[05:24] <Tm_T> gutentagen
[05:24] <Tm_T> whops
[05:26] <VincentMX> and how do you like it so far, imagemaker?
[05:27] <imagemaker> ah, I love it... thanks to automatix, it is set up to be much better than XP ever was
[05:27] <VincentMX> :D
[05:28] <imagemaker> it is so good not to be wrestling with antivirus proggies, and spyware
[05:29] <VincentMX> i know
[05:29] <imagemaker> I'm still haveing problems mounting my second hdd however
[05:29] <cRoMo> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-February/003621.html - here's my post. Can anyone please tak a look at it and at least confirm same behaviour at yours?
[05:30] <VincentMX> i've been using Ubuntu since 4.10. then i just installed kde from apt-get
[05:32] <imagemaker> ah yes, fantastic, ubuntu was untried by myself until 2 weeks ago... I had tried debian sarge, fedora, mandrake, suse... ubuntu is just what I was looking at
[05:32] <imagemaker> for
[05:32] <imagemaker> sure thing cRoMo
[05:33] <braddoro> can anyone suggest an email client that works from the command line as well as from X and uses the same email store?
[05:34] <braddoro> i want to be able to ssh into my machine from work and get the email but at home I want to be able to use the kde desktop
[05:34] <MNO> can some one tell me how do I get those desktop widgets, like that tell you your CPU temp. etc? thx
[05:34] <imagemaker> have to say you lost me cRoMo, sorry m8
[05:34] <jpatrick> MNO: superkaramba
[05:34] <jpatrick> !info superkaramba
[05:35] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.36-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[05:35] <MNO> lol that means nothing to me :/
[05:35] <cRoMo> imagemaker: you mean you don't get my post? Ok, lemme explain it in a more clearly
[05:35] <MNO> Do I have to download that superkaramba
[05:35] <imagemaker> sure thing
[05:35] <jpatrick> MNO: if you have universe enabled do: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[05:36] <MNO> ok its installed now what? :)
[05:36] <jpatrick> run it
[05:36] <MNO> cool thanks
[05:37] <jpatrick> and themes can be found at: www.kde-look.org
[05:37] <cRoMo> first set in options to Show icons on desktop and let the windows draw on wallpaper (Allow programs in desktop). Then grab an urxvt copy and run it with -tr switch. See what's happening. Urxvt's background is supposed to be transparent, but it is not.
[05:38] <cRoMo> but if you then (without even closing urxvt) uncheck "Show icons on desktop", press OK, and the check it again and press OK agin, urxvt will become transparent.
[05:39] <cRoMo> Now it will be the way it was meant to be from begining.
[05:39] <imagemaker> lordy, seems I have things to learn, breezy badger is as complex as I have been able to use so far so far
[05:42] <imagemaker> so I'm sorry I cant enlighten you
[05:43] <imagemaker> my beauty sleep beckons however, well after midnight here
[05:43] <imagemaker> bye for now
[05:44] <lunitik> Hey... I can't get amarok-xine to play mp3's after installing libmad0... anyone know what else I need?
[05:44] <lunitik> Sound itself is working fine...
[05:45] <braddoro> lunitik I went through that last night, I just kept instlling libraries that looked right intul it worked
[05:45] <lunitik> what was the one that did it?
[05:45] <braddoro> i can't remember which one made it work
[05:45] <braddoro> I think it was something mad
[05:45] <lunitik> grrr
[05:46] <braddoro> gstreamer maybe
[05:46] <braddoro> sorry I can't be more helpful
[05:46] <lunitik> braddoro: gstreamer0.8-mad?
[05:46] <lunitik> braddoro: that makes no sense though, I'm not using the gstreamer backend...
[05:47] <Sonic> Hi Guys, anybody know the command for displaying the user group I'm in
[05:48] <braddoro> lunitik i probably installed somethat were not the right ones
[05:49] <lunitik> braddoro: meh, I just installed libxine1c2 or whatever, and it along with libmad0 have it working...
[05:49] <lunitik> *taps multiverse on the head*
[05:53] <braddoro> yeah
[05:53] <braddoro> i had to do that as well
[06:12] <mja> hello -- is there a command similar to swapinfo in Kubuntu?
[06:14] <trappist> what does swapinfo do
[06:14] <mja> trappist: it displays the currently used swap spaces
[06:14] <trappist> looks like an hpux thing
[06:15] <luka74> You mean GUI swapinfo? You can use KInfoCenter and its Memory page
[06:15] <mja> thanks -- I'll take a look there
[06:16] <bushito> what was the patch to reconfigure xorg.conf??
[06:16] <trappist> you can install sysutils and get procinfo, which should give you that info
[06:16] <trappist> bushito: patch?
[06:16] <bushito> i mean path.
[06:17] <bushito> rout path sorry
[06:17] <trappist> bushito: you mean sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:17] <bushito> no no it was like vim /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:17] <bushito> >_< i dont rmeember well
[06:17] <trappist> capital x in X11
[06:17] <bushito> =O aahh right
[06:17] <maverick> hi all
[06:17] <maverick> any c++ programers on?
[06:18] <jpatrick> maverick: me
[06:18] <maverick> hi patric
[06:18] <maverick> can i pm u a sec?
[06:18] <luka74> maverick: I know some c++...
[06:18] <maverick> u guys know about threads?
[06:18] <jpatrick> :( No...
[06:18] <maverick> and unix system calls?
[06:19] <maverick> i jsut made a basic webserver... really basic....
[06:19] <luka74> Khttpd? ;-)
[06:19] <maverick> ?
[06:19] <maverick> shall i send u the code?
[06:20] <luka74> (it is Kubuntu channel afterall ;-)
[06:20] <maverick> lol
[06:20] <luka74> You can put it in pastebin...
[06:20] <maverick> oky
[06:20] <edison> hi
[06:20] <maverick> wats pastebin?
[06:20] <jpatrick> !pastebin
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:20] <maverick> oky cool
[06:20] <maverick> ill do that
[06:20] <luka74> or kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:21] <edison> please hamachi for kubuntu
[06:24] <kyd> how do i change a desktop icon to something else?
[06:25] <maverick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8193
[06:25] <maverick> here u go luka or anyone
[06:25] <maverick> heres the code i made
[06:26] <kyd> anyone
[06:26] <maverick> icon?
[06:26] <kyd> yeah on the desktop ive got an icon that links to another program but its coming up witht the default gear one
[06:27] <kyd> and i want to change it to my own
[06:27] <maverick> right click it
[06:27] <maverick> go properties
[06:27] <maverick> u see abuittone with a wrench?
[06:27] <maverick> a buttont*
[06:27] <maverick> click it
[06:27] <kyd> yup k
[06:27] <maverick> u see the current icon click it
[06:28] <kyd> oh rite thanks :)
[06:28] <maverick> np
[06:28] <maverick> just looked now
[06:29] <kyd> also is there a way to make firefox menu bars/fonts smaller becuase there pretty huge
[06:29] <maverick> hmmm
[06:29] <maverick> let me see
[06:29] <kyd> ive tried going to the font settings and changing it lower but it doesnt affect firefox
[06:29] <maverick> u tried the firefox settings?
[06:29] <kyd> no i dont know wher2 look
[06:30] <wellu> Hi all!
[06:30] <maverick> ok open firefox
[06:30] <kyd> k
[06:30] <wellu> Is the a working mplayer for Breezy somewhere?
[06:30] <maverick> go edit then prefernces
[06:31] <maverick> on general look for button font/colours
[06:31] <maverick> that any help?
[06:31] <maverick> mplayer?
[06:31] <_tomas> yo, Is there anyone here that have some knowledge in backwards engingeering (if thats the word)?
[06:32] <maverick> movies or music?
[06:32] <muzzle> hi all
[06:32] <maverick> nope tomas
[06:32] <_tomas> :(
[06:32] <maverick> u mean reverse enginerring?
[06:32] <kyd> nope :( theres no font/color in general, but there is in content but that will only affect text on websites not the menus etc
[06:32] <_tomas> eah :P
[06:32] <maverick> engineering*
[06:32] <wellu> Mainly movies... Kafffeine seems sluggish
[06:32] <_tomas> i know
[06:32] <_tomas> i want to be able to use my dualphone with skype
[06:32] <muzzle> I would like to have gtk+ installed to use for my development of software. How should I do that? I'm new with linux :(
[06:32] <maverick> d/l vlc
[06:33] <_tomas> about videos :)
[06:33] <_tomas> anyone heard of plugger?
[06:33] <dark_suic> wellu, u got kaffeiner-xine engine or still with gstreamer?
[06:33] <dark_suic> i don't have problems with kaffeine and xine engine
[06:33] <_tomas> i do, crashing in konquer :/
[06:34] <_tomas> from time to time :/
[06:34] <wellu> I'm using gstreamer as engine...
[06:34] <_tomas> and mplayer sucks (you cant runt it in fullscreen (really)
[06:34] <maverick> any of the c++ programer on?
[06:34] <dark_suic> wellu, install kaffeine-xine engine
[06:34] <dark_suic> and then choose "kaffeine" from the engines list in kaffeine
[06:34] <dark_suic> it should work good
[06:34] <muzzle> hmm if I use gcc base.c -o base `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` to compile then it works good
[06:34] <dark_suic> maybe you should need to install w32codecs, although it may not be necessary
[06:35] <trappist> _tomas: sure you can
[06:35] <maverick> not sure muzzle
[06:35] <muzzle> how do I delete a file in the command line?
[06:35] <muzzle> maverick: What do you mean?
[06:35] <_tomas> trappist: no not really
[06:35] <trappist> _tomas: just say zoom=yes in your mplayer config
[06:36] <trappist> _tomas: yes really.
[06:36] <_tomas> ah
[06:36] <luka74> maverick: what is the issue with pasted code?
[06:36] <_tomas> trappist: thanks ;)
[06:36] <_tomas> trappist: do you know how to get rid of all these crashes in konquer when watching videos?
[06:36] <maverick> i tried compiling
[06:36] <trappist> _tomas: while you're at it use vo=xv so you can do hardware scaling, which helps performance a lot in fullscreen
[06:36] <maverick> and i ran it
[06:36] <maverick> and it breaks
[06:36] <luka74> maverick: I do not see threads, just processes (fork)
[06:36] <trappist> _tomas: dunno, I don't use konqueror except occasionally as a file manager
[06:37] <maverick> hmm
[06:37] <maverick> does it run for u?
[06:37] <maverick> without errors
[06:37] <maverick> ?
[06:37] <_tomas> trappist: do you run opera?
[06:37] <maverick> should acces a site... then return simple errors.. like 404 etc..
[06:37] <maverick> recognise file types?
[06:37] <trappist> _tomas: only occasionally to debug or test html rendering issues
[06:38] <wellu> xine engine seems to work better than gstreamer
[06:38] <_tomas> trappist: im very impressed by opera. it doesn't takes much ram and it loads very fast.
[06:38] <trappist> yeah it's pretty nice, but there's no adblock for it, and it doesn't support extensions the way firefox does, so I'm still a firefox guy
[06:39] <luka74> maverick: just compiled - if SEGV (coredumps)
[06:39] <maverick> firefox seems slow for me
[06:39] <maverick> ?
[06:39] <_tomas> its way to slow
[06:39] <maverick> dnt understand
[06:39] <maverick> luka?
[06:39] <kudega> Hi sirs. I have a small problem... I have buy a wireless mouse but I don't find where is the file that monitoring the battery state. /proc/.. ??? (sorry for my bad english)
[06:40] <_tomas> trappist: do you know any good speech recognition software for kde?
[06:40] <luka74> maverick: I have compiled and try to run, but it crashes (coredump) - I am looking into...
[06:40] <trappist> yeah firefox is the slowest browser I know of, ie included, but it has the features I want
[06:40] <maverick> cheers luka
[06:40] <trappist> _tomas: the only speech recognition software for linux that I know of is the ibm stuff, I forget what it's called and I don't think it's free
[06:40] <luka74> maverick: did you ever used valgrind - it is great tool for memory problems/coredumps
[06:40] <maverick> nope iam verry nooby at c++
[06:40] <maverick> jsut learning it now
[06:41] <maverick> and proper noob at unix enviroment
[06:41] <maverick> luka can i pm u ?
[06:42] <trappist> _tomas: unless by speech recognition you mean text-to-speech, in which case there's festival
[06:44] <_tomas> trappist: there is in fact one good speech recognition software out there. its called perlbox voice or something like that
[06:44] <_tomas> trappist: its nice to be able to start programs with your voice :p
[06:45] <_tomas> trappist: kinda star trek, computer: pause song :P
[06:46] <_tomas> trappist: there is also a debian package for it :)
[06:46] <trappist> yeah I have this fantasy about a complete linux-based multimedia system with speech recognition, where I just sit on the couch and say "hazel, play me some beethoven."
[06:46] <_tomas> ^^
[06:46] <_tomas> trappist: i dont think that its such a fantasy
[06:46] <_tomas> we could have a software like that in a couple of months
[06:47] <_tomas> if someone put a little bigger effort into it
[06:47] <trappist> assuming this perlbox thing doesn't suck, yeah
[06:47] <maverick> lol
[06:48] <_tomas> it doesnt really
[06:48] <_tomas> i mean
[06:48] <_tomas> i have made it so i can start a preselect song
[06:48] <_tomas> pause the song (currently playing in amarok)
[06:48] <_tomas> unpause the song
[06:48] <_tomas> and things like that
[06:48] <trappist> sweet
[06:48] <maverick> can it make coffee?
[06:49] <_tomas> there are not really any dictation thing but its quite fine
[06:49] <_tomas> ^^
[06:49] <_tomas> no not yet :P
[06:49] <maverick> damnit
[06:49] <_tomas> if its not a hiddeen feature :P
[06:49] <maverick> send it back to beta
[06:49] <_tomas> it is a beta :P
[06:49] <_tomas> i think :p
[06:49] <_tomas> http://perlbox.org/  if y ou didnt allready know ;)
[06:50] <maverick> oky
[06:50] <_tomas> http://perlbox.org/pbtk/ > this i use
[06:50] <trappist> 1.0 was scheduled to be released a couple of months ago, but... oops :)
[06:51] <NRG88> what do we need katapult for?
[06:51] <trappist> dude katapult is awesome
[06:52] <trappist> katapult singlehandedly converted my gf from windows
[06:52] <NRG88> but what can it do?
[06:52] <maverick> ?
[06:53] <kudega> hey guys... plese, can you help me? I have a small problem...
[06:53] <maverick> ?
[06:53] <trappist> launch apps, do math, open documents, play your amarok playlist, open bookmarks...
[06:53] <kudega> I have buy a wireless mouse but I don't find where is the file that monitoring the battery state.
[06:54] <trappist> kudega: I've never seen a way to monitor the battery state in a wireless mouse, except that the light on mine starts blinking when it gets low
[06:54] <wellu> Katapult is awesome.. Just press ALT+Space, type few letters from your favorite app and hit Enter.
[06:54] <trappist> wellu: or your favorite song, website, document etc.
[06:54] <NRG88> doesn't even now what's krusader
[06:54] <NRG88> :(
[06:56] <wellu> How do I configure Katapult?
[06:57] <Riddell> wellu: alt-space control-c
[06:57] <NRG88> i aint got nothing against katapult, i was just wondering what was it ;)
[06:58] <nMad> hi
[06:58] <kudega> trappist: I use kde and when I connect the mouse in the kcontrol I see the battery state... but it is a bad because the level read is always 71%. There aren't a way to monitoring the mouse battery state... :(
[06:58] <wellu> Riddell: thanx!
[06:58] <Riddell> trappist: excellent :)
[06:58] <nMad> i have a question
[06:58] <bushito> !ati
[06:58] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:58] <nMad> how can i connect another server on this program?
[06:58] <NRG88> can anyone tell me how to restore the harddrives in Storage Devices? i can see only my floppy drive there
[07:00] <NRG88> it happens after updating to KDE 3.5
[07:01] <_tomas> thank you all guys
[07:01] <_tomas> i gotta play with some speech recognition :)
[07:01] <_tomas> take care
[07:01] <_tomas> bye
[07:01] <NRG88> bye :)
[07:02] <NRG88> i tried to unmount them, and mount them again, but they don't appear
[07:06] <derekS> can anyone help me make it so postfix delivers mail to me?
[07:13] <maverick> does kubuntu
[07:14] <maverick> find usb
[07:14] <maverick> harddrives
[07:14] <maverick> auto?
[07:16] <finite9> Hi everyone!  Can someone give tips on howto watch DVDs??  I installed libdvdread3, then libdvdcss2 and I have vlc 0.8.4 on Breezy Kubuntu, but as soon as I try to enter disc source as /dev/hdc or /media/cdrom then vlc reads disc for 2s then dies!!??  What am I doing wrong?
[07:22] <braddoro> can anyone suggest an email client that works from the command line as well as from X and uses the same email store?
[07:22] <braddoro> i want to be able to ssh into my machine from work and get the email but at home I want to be able to use the kde desktop
[07:24] <_w0lf> what does it take to get kubuntu to either recognice the modem or allow you to use Kppp
[07:31] <bushito> !ati
[07:31] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:41] <Synchro> Hi everyone.  I am a real newbie to this whole linux thing, and have just installed Kubuntu on my upstairs computer.  I want to network it to my downstairs computer and I'm using a Netgear WG111T adapter to connect to my downstairs computers router (Netgear DG834GT).  I have the adapter detected and have got the drivers, and it will find my network name, but then stays at 0 signal strength. ...
[07:41] <Synchro> ...I was just wondering if there was anything I might need to config that might be causing it, and if anyone has any tips on getting good connectivity - before I go out and spend 60 on a repeater or something.  Thanks!
[07:52] <HeavyDc223> has any1 in here gotten a modem to work with kubuntu 5.10?
[07:54] <tsdgeos> HeavyDc223: softmodem or real modem?
[07:54] <dark_suic> !easyubuntu
[07:54] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:55] <HeavyDc223> real modem, US Robotics 5610, it works in Fedora, USR even has linux drivers
[07:55] <maverick> anyone know  how to
[07:56] <HeavyDc223> they're in a rpm, tho, & kubuntu doesn't handle rpms
[07:56] <tsdgeos> HeavyDc223: don't know drivers for a real modem
[07:56] <tsdgeos> just kppp and bedone
[07:56] <maverick> to get a usb hardrrive work on kubuntu?
[07:57] <HeavyDc223> I've tried kppp, and it says modem busy\
[08:01] <HeavyDc223> I've never gotten any distro but Red Hat to recognize a modem
[08:05] <leafw> any clues on how to install a .deb package manually ?
[08:05] <jpatrick> leafw: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:05] <leafw> jpatrick : thank you
[08:06] <leafw> the manual for dpkg, though, doesn't make it very clear that -i is for installing
[08:06] <leafw> never mind ... thanks
[08:06] <HeavyDc223> can an rpm be converted to a .deb?
[08:06] <leafw> yes
[08:06] <leafw> use 'alien'
[08:06] <jpatrick> !alien
[08:06] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[08:07] <HeavyDc223> maybe I can use that to get my modem drivers to work
[08:08] <HeavyDc223> get them out of the rpm, and install them in kubuntu
[08:17] <SirKillalot> how do I set the sound recording system on kde?
[08:17] <SirKillalot> I cannot use my mic anymore
[08:17] <SirKillalot> /dev/dsp is always in use or something
[08:17] <SirKillalot> or my soundserver is configured wrong, I dont have a clue...
[08:38] <Massimo91> salve a tutti
[08:39] <jpatrick> Tm_T: ping
[08:39] <Tm_T> yes?
[08:39] <jpatrick> ^^
[08:39] <Tm_T> ... =)
[08:39] <Tm_T> Massimo91: ciao a tutti
[08:40] <Massimo91> there is anyone who speak italian?
[08:40] <Tm_T> hope not
[08:40] <Tm_T> !it
[08:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:40] <Massimo91> thnx
[08:40] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[08:40] <Massimo91> bye
[08:40] <jpatrick> Tm_T: hehe
[08:42] <divansantana> hello can someone help me im having such trouble with printing on kubuntu breezy kde3.5.1
[08:46] <divansantana> hello can someone help me im having such trouble with printing on kubuntu breezy kde3.5.1
[08:47] <jpatrick> divansantana: what printing trouble?
[08:47] <xtreme> wich printer
[08:49] <elvirolo> hi all
[08:50] <divansantana> hp desktjet 640C via USB or lp0, any ideas? Sits in job queue and just stops :(
[08:51] <xtreme> a
[08:51] <elvirolo> i've got two boxes on a wlan here : a debian sid machine and a kubuntu breezy one ... i've set up NFS (via the KDE interface) on the debian machine in order to share files on the second one ... but when i click on "remote machines" on the ubuntu machine, konqueror crashes
[08:51] <cslater> Hey everyone - wanted to let you know I added Kubuntu support to instalinux.com today
[08:52] <xtreme> sry no idea
[08:52] <cslater> If anyone wants to play I also have a blank Virtual Machine at www.instalinux.com/InstalinuxVM.zip
[08:52] <cslater> Just save the install image in the directory as instalinux.iso
[08:52] <cslater> Any feedback on Kubuntu installer would be very welcome
[08:52] <Nomad411> divansantana: CUPS issues probably.. I gave up trying with mine, for a while, or I was headed for the mad house.. :)
[08:54] <divansantana>  What is with CUPS!?Why is it completely a pain since kde3.5.1? There mus b someway to fix it.Causing huge problems not being able to print. Any ideas?
[08:54] <unholy> I have downloaded the kubuntu iso. How do I burn it in k3b so that it is bootable?
[08:54] <cslater> I just do a command line cdrecord...
[08:54] <Nomad411> unholy: Burn Image, middle of the menu somwehere
[08:54] <elvirolo> unholy: just burn it as an normal iso image
[08:55] <elvirolo> can anyone help me?
[08:55] <unholy> cool, thanks Nomad411 / elvirolo.
[08:55] <unholy> elvirolo: whats the problem? I just logged in.
[08:55] <cslater> elvirolo - maybe try command line nfs mount first?
[08:55] <Nomad411> elvirolo: Strange, for me, Konqueror crashes when I sneeze.. :(
[08:56] <elvirolo> lol
[08:56] <elvirolo> cslater: ah ... I must RTF for that first :)
[08:56] <elvirolo> unholy:  i've got two boxes on a wlan here : a debian sid machine and a kubuntu breezy one ... i've set up NFS (via the KDE interface) on the debian machine in order to share files on the second one ... but when i click on "remote machines" on the ubuntu machine, konqueror crashes
[08:57] <unholy> oh dear.
[08:57] <cslater> should be just mkdir /tmp/test; mount server:/nfs_dir /tmp/test
[08:57] <cslater> I think
[08:57] <elvirolo> ok thanks
[08:57] <elvirolo> brb
[08:57] <cslater> just be sure you're root
[09:00] <mars> Hi
[09:00] <mars> how can i change my x server to x.org ?
[09:00] <jpatrick> mars: it is in Kubuntu
[09:00] <mars> where?
[09:00] <jpatrick> the default is Xorg
[09:01] <mars> really?
[09:01] <jpatrick> yes....
[09:16] <Xtender_> hi
[09:24] <humboldt> how can I add a max osx printer to my linux box or why does the CUPS way not work?
[09:29] <dark_suic> it's mysql 5 installable from any kubuntu repo (without accesing debian ones?)
[09:32] <cslater> seeing something in a forum about it being on a dapper repo
[09:36] <Muzzle> I have a file called image which I want to rename to image.png. How do I do that in the command line?
[09:36] <Muzzle> rename ??
[09:36] <cslater> mv
[09:43] <asraniel> hi. any idea why all the videos i watch under kubuntu stock?
[09:44] <trappist> why they... stock?
[09:45] <asraniel> trappist: well, lag, dont know, every 2 secs there is a stop of.. 0.3 sec
[09:58] <Knowerrors> To anyone who is using kde 3.5.1, how can you configure the Storage Media notifications autoaction to simply mount any removeable media, without opening a new Konq window?
[09:58] <stefano> hey, how can i run a command when Konversation connects to a server? (i want to auth myself at quakenet)
[10:00] <Knowerrors> stefano: edit server list, click on the network, edit, click on the server name, edit, then input your username and pass
[10:01] <stefano> i'll have a try, thank you
[10:01] <stefano> there's nothing like that
[10:02] <stefano> once there is the server password, and then "automatic identification" (or similar, i got a localized version).
[10:03] <Xtender_> do i run nessusd and nessus on the same computer?
[10:03] <Xtender_> or can i?
[10:05] <Xtender_> 23
[10:06] <Knowerrors> stefano: server password is what you want...
[10:06] <stefano> what do you mean?
[10:08] <Knowerrors> to auto identify
[10:08] <Rayaken> hello, i got some problem with my ati 9200 and kubuntu 5.10. "normal" 2D mode is working but i can't get 3D hardware accel to work. tried the radeon and the fglrx driver. can someone help me?
[10:08] <stefano> Knowerrors: well, i registed myself at quakenet, i got a password. what should i enter in the Service-field?
[10:08] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: try the ati driver?
[10:09] <SbCl3> hi, I just upgraded to kde 3.5.1. I'm having one problem, I can't change the keyboard layout to dvorak, which is what it was before. At the login screen dvorak is being used, but after I log in kde uses the qwerty layout. I went in to kcontrol to change it but everything was blank. my xorg file has not been touched
[10:09] <Rayaken> tried it and they didnt work. i took the latest drivers the screen just freezes (black). nothing goes. nothing in the logs
[10:09] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: I have same problem, it is known by developers and they are working on fixing it
[10:09] <Rayaken> no problem when loading the module
[10:09] <Knowerrors> stefano: you mean the server field? put the quakenet server name
[10:10] <stefano> no
[10:10] <Knowerrors> I don't have any service field on my konversation
[10:10] <stefano> at the Automati identification (or similar) area, there are two field. one says Service, and the other one says password
[10:10] <Rayaken> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI/fglrx tried that link. no problem with building. but the driver ain't working with 3d enabled.
[10:10] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: I use a 9200SE and that works fine..
[10:11] <SbCl3> ubijtsa: in the mean time, how do i fix it? i can't type with qwerty
[10:11] <Rayaken> what chipset does your mainboard have?
[10:11] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: one moment
[10:11] <Rayaken> i got kt400
[10:11] <Knowerrors> stefano: I think you put the server name there, like irc.freenode.net
[10:11] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: setxkbmap -option 'ctrl:nocaps' -option 'compose:ralt,rwin,menu' -option 'altwin:super_win' -option 'grp_led:caps' -option 'grp:shift_toggle' 'dvorak,ru'
[10:11] <stefano> well, no. its in the server-preferences
[10:12] <SbCl3> ru?
[10:12] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: leave off the 'ru' part if you don't need it ;)
[10:12] <SbCl3> ;)
[10:12] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: I tinker with cyrillic from time to time ;)
[10:13] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: I was of the impression that fglrx was for the bigger cards, not the 9200
[10:13] <SbCl3> thanks, i'll run upstairs and see if it works
[10:13] <Rayaken> so , do u use the radeon driver?
[10:13] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: let me know how you get on
[10:14] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: ati.. I can mail you my xorg.conf if it'd help
[10:14] <Rayaken> yes. mihael (dot) knezevic (at) freenet (dot) de
[10:15] <ubijtsa> hmm. correction, it says radeon, but might be of use to you anyway :)
[10:15] <Rayaken> yes
[10:15] <SbCl3> ubjitsa: worked great, thanks so much
[10:15] <Rayaken> afaik if u use ati or radeon doesn't matter. it will take the right one
[10:17] <ubijtsa> SbCl3: good stuff :)
[10:17] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: mail away..
[10:17] <Rayaken> thx
[10:17] <ubijtsa> let me know when it arrives
[10:17] <Knowerrors> stefano: I don't know what you want then, I just told you how I setup auto identify for irc servers I log onto
[10:18] <Rayaken> allready here
[10:18] <stefano> well, did you notice i want to auth at quakenet, not at freenode?
[10:19] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: let me know if it helps
[10:19] <Rayaken> hmm. nothing special in the conf. i'll try it.
[10:20] <ubijtsa> you should see my xorg.conf from work.. ;)
[10:20] <stefano> Quote from Sho_: ""Auto Identify" doesn't work because it's hardcoded to use "identify" but the moronic QuakeNet services want "auth""
[10:20] <Knowerrors> stefano: yeah, then just type irc.quakenet.net, or whatever your server name is in the field
[10:20] <Knowerrors> don't know then, I tried ;)
[10:21] <trispace> stefano: just create a quickbutton (if you're using konversation) and you're done
[10:22] <Rayaken> ubijtsa2: =))) have to work with windoze at work
[10:22] <Rayaken> till then
[10:29] <NoairKiller> Anybody using kde 3.5.1, I have a couple questions
[10:34] <NoairKiller> Is there a way to enable automount in kde 3.5?
[10:38] <Rayaken> ubijtsa2: tried the device section of your conf. and i got 2d working, but no 3d
[10:38] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: hmmm
[10:38] <Rayaken> the xorg log says (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled
[10:38] <Rayaken> but glxinfo says direct rendering: no
[10:39] <ubijtsa> if you have GL loaded, it should work...
[10:39] <ubijtsa> this rings a vague bell somewhere at the back of my mind...
[10:40] <ubijtsa> but I can not remember exactly how to fix it..
[10:40] <Rayaken> xdpyinfo says: number of extensions 15 and SGI-GLX, GLX and XFree86-DRI are listed
[10:40] <ubijtsa> try glxgears, and see if smooth..
[10:40] <Rayaken> somthing with mtrr?
[10:40] <Rayaken> nope. got 188 frames
[10:40] <djzn> hi!  is there a network traffic applet for KDE?
[10:40] <ubijtsa> there was some *obscure* setting somewhere to fix it..
[10:41] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: yes, what is not automounting?  check your /etc/fstab
[10:41] <Rayaken> do i have to enable page flipping to get it working?
[10:41] <mars_> What is the best download manager?
[10:41] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: removable media, cds/dvds/usb sticks
[10:41] <ubijtsa> maybe, but that does not ring any bells
[10:41] <spiritz> Hi, I saw off the web that you can access DAAP hosts with the daap:// kioslave; however when I type daap://whatever, konqueror will look for daap:// in google, am I missing something?
[10:42] <josesito> hey i'm having a problem when booting in kubuntu. "Fatal server error. Caught signal 11. Server Aborting. XIO Fatal error 104"
[10:42] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: mine works by default for most of those, hrrmmmm wonder what is off on yours?
[10:44] <Rayaken> ubijtsa2: my log http://pastebin.com/543927
[10:44] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: I know it will mount if I have open in new window as default action... but if do nothing is checked, it won't mount, unless I click on the icon
[10:44] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: I am looking at it now
[10:45] <mars_> why azureus doesent work in 5.10?
[10:45] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: what I want is for removable media to mount, w/o konq window
[10:46] <ubijtsa> Rayaken: tried 16bpp ?
[10:46] <Rayaken> nope. i'm gonna try it. cu
[10:46] <ubijtsa> ok
[10:47] <josesito> please help?
[10:50] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: Hrmmm. My laptop with Breezy does exactly the behavior you are asking with CD's DVD's
[10:50] <dark_suic> i have a problem since i actualiced to kde 3.5.1 with k3b. It doesn't burn cds (it burns dvds though) and gives a mkisofs error
[10:50] <dark_suic> any thought about it?
[10:52] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: what about with usbpendrives?
[10:52] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: you have kde 3.5 installed right?
[10:52] <visik7> anyone here using prelink ?
[10:54] <djzn> hi!  is there a network traffic applet for KDE?
[10:54] <visik7> knemo
[10:55] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: Look at this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90457.html
[10:55] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: Yes, 3.5.0
[10:55] <djzn> visik7: thanks, ill take a loook
[10:56] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: I already removed ivman...
[10:57] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: do you still have it installed?
[10:59] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: I still have it installed.
[10:59] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: yeah, so ivman is doing the automounting for you
[11:00] <NoairKiller> that worked fine for me for cds/dvds, but would not work for usbdrives
[11:00] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=KDE+automount&btnG=Google+Search
[11:01] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: Testing USB key now.
[11:01] <Foodcoman> NoairKiller: USB key works for me.  Icon on desktop and mounted.
[11:03] <NoairKiller> hmm, ivman worked fine for usbkey in kde 3.5.0, when I upgraded to 3.5.1 it stopped working
[11:06] <NoairKiller> Foodcoman: maybe autofs will work
[11:11] <ubijtsa> right, bedtime..
[11:13] <LeeJunFan> ne1 know if dapper kubuntu can use cups yet?
[11:19] <_jon> hey im trying to run a counter-strike source server on linux, but i dont know how to open the .bin file
[11:20] <Spudly> _jon: what have you tried?
[11:20] <_jon> um
[11:20] <_jon> nothing?
[11:20] <_jon> i double clicked it
[11:20] <Spudly> _jon: have you tried simply executing it?
[11:20] <trappist> try sh file.bin
[11:20] <_jon> i just cant get it to open
[11:20] <trappist> or ./file.bin
[11:20] <Spudly> _jon: open a terminal and try:  "sh file.bin"
[11:22] <_jon> it says "cannot execute binary file"
[11:22] <Spudly> what are the perms on the file? (ls -al file.bin)
[11:22] <_jon> it is for linux i know it is i downloaded the linux ersion
[11:22] <_jon> i dont know
[11:23] <Spudly> i just gave you the command to check the perms....
[11:23] <Spudly> please turn that "I don't know" into a "Let me paste them, hang on..."
[11:23] <_jon> one sec plz
[11:24] <_jon> -rw-r--r--  1 jon jon 3513408 2006-02-07 14:21 hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:24] <Spudly> ok
[11:24] <Spudly> if you run "file file.bin", what comes back?
[11:25] <_jon> command not found.
[11:25] <Spudly> bugger
[11:25] <Spudly> ok
[11:25] <Spudly> run "head file.bin" (that will display the first 10 lines of the file)
[11:25] <trappist> ack
[11:26] <trappist> sudo apt-get install file and try again
[11:26] <_jon> ok i did that
[11:26] <Spudly> bin files have a script at the start
[11:26] <Spudly> and then the last 90% are binary data
[11:26] <trappist> Spudly: you're making assumptions about what kind of file this is :)
[11:26] <_jon> i dont understand
[11:27] <Spudly> trappist: of course, and what i'm trying to do is see if those assumptions are correct
[11:28] <Spudly> trappist: quick and easy
[11:28] <_jon> http://storefront.steampowered.com/download/hldsupdatetool.bin
[11:28] <trappist> Spudly: unless you're wrong, in which case he'll end up with a garbled terminal and be very sad
[11:28] <_jon> thats the link if you need it
[11:29] <_jon>   #U[tx
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[11:29] <_jon>                                                                              hh
[11:29] <_jon> uvUu] vUU,WVS}1tRX^DPPRVhXPUu8u
[11:29] <_jon>                            1j/P       t&] ct&<ht<
[11:29] <_jon> <?t6<Vt#<vuPjvjWP<uSPEjMtUtzt80t-@80t(@80t#@tu@@9Q$S
[11:29] <trappist> like so
[11:29] <Spudly> trappist: he won't end up sad, he can close his terminal and open a new one *shrug*
[11:29] <trappist> :)
[11:29] <_jon> garbled?
[11:30] <trappist> man this is the third thing I've guessed right about in two days.  I need to go buy a lottery ticket.
[11:30] <trappist> Phazeman
[11:30] <Spudly> trappist: that's exactly what i needed to see
[11:30] <_jon> so what do i do?
[11:30] <trappist> _jon: chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin
[11:31] <Spudly> _jon: you could try trappist's suggestion, or chmod 755 file.bin and try and exec again (./file.bin)
[11:31] <Spudly> oh, i see trappist has given away his love of apt-get :P
[11:31] <_jon> ok
[11:31] <trappist> Spudly: we learned what we wanted to know from head - I just didn't like that way of doing it :)
[11:32] <_jon> extracting steam.tar.Z...done
[11:32] <trappist> _jon: awesome
[11:32] <_jon> ...except
[11:32] <_jon> im trying to open it
[11:33] <_jon> wut do you want me to do now that i have the file extract?
[11:33] <Spudly> trappist: i'd rather screw the terminal & open a new one to solve the prob rather than compeltely re-downloading...
[11:33] <trappist> tar zxf steam.tar.Z
[11:33] <deepfriedpenguin> gghgh
[11:34] <Spudly> terminals are a dime a dozen, they have no feelings :P
[11:34] <_jon> jon@ubuntu:~$ tar zxf steam.tar.Z
[11:34] <_jon> tar: steam.tar.Z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:34] <_jon> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:34] <_jon> tar: Child returned status 2
[11:34] <_jon> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:34] <_jon> jon@ubuntu:~$
[11:34] <trappist> so it didn't extract a steam.tar.Z?
[11:34] <trappist> what did it do?
[11:34] <_jon> it did
[11:34] <_jon> i see it
[11:35] <_jon> its an executable file
[11:35] <trappist> is it in the directory you're in?
[11:35] <_jon> it is in "/home/jon"
[11:35] <trappist> and does 'pwd' say /home/jon?
[11:35] <_jon> pwd?
[11:36] <trappist> it's a command.  Print Working Directory.  so you know where you are.
[11:36] <brexel> hi all :)
[11:36] <evilh> HI
[11:36] <_jon> yeah pwd says "/home/jon"\
[11:37] <brexel> ^^
[11:37] <brexel> *spam*
[11:37] <evilh> * evilh is happy cause his VNC server is working
[11:38] <brexel> :D
[11:38] <_jon> so eer what do i do?> i have the steam file
[11:38] <trappist> _jon: try clicking on it in a file browser
[11:38] <_jon> nothing happens
[11:40] <_jon> so what should i try?
[11:41] <Pyrobob> quick question.
[11:41] <Pyrobob> when I try to install deKorator I can't get it to install sucessfully
[11:42] <Pyrobob> like, I type "./configure
[11:42] <Pyrobob> "
[11:42] <Pyrobob> and it works up until checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[11:42] <_jon> am i wasting my time?
[11:42] <Pyrobob> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[11:42] <brexel> Pyrobob: you have g++ installed?
[11:43] <Pyrobob> think so
[11:43] <brexel> type g++
[11:43] <brexel> in a shell
[11:43] <Pyrobob> says command not found
[11:43] <brexel> ^^
[11:43] <brexel> install g++
[11:43] <Pyrobob> that works
[11:43] <Pyrobob> lol
[11:43] <brexel> heheh
[11:44] <_jon> after i extracted the file what do i do to it?
[11:44] <brexel> _jon: what are you trying to do?
[11:45] <_jon> run a counter-strike source server
[11:45] <_jon> mm i found a tutorial ill come back if i get stumped
[11:45] <brexel> so i guess you d/l the installer and extracted it?
[11:46] <brexel> ah ok
[11:47] <eazy> hmm, linux is eating up my ram 999 Mb used of 1012Mb (1024)
[11:49] <Pyrobob> now it works, but I type in "make" like it asks, and it says "bash: make: command not found"
[11:49] <brexel> eazy it's just file cache...use `free` to see how much it really uses
[11:50] <brexel> Pyrobob: you don't have any developerpackages installed
[11:50] <brexel> u need those to compile stuff
[11:50] <brexel> gcc, make, libc6-dev, autoconf etc
[11:50] <Pyrobob> I rad somewhere to install KDE devel
[11:50] <Pyrobob> read*
[11:51] <Pyrobob> and thats installed
[11:51] <Pyrobob> and I think gcc is installed too, I remember doing somthing with gcc...
[11:51] <Pyrobob> lemme check to see if wasn't somthing else
[11:51] <brexel> well, make is required for almost anything to compile in C or C++
[11:52] <Pyrobob> gcc is already the newest version.
[11:52] <eazy> -/+ buffers/cache: 228 Mb of  783 Mb is more true then perhaps?
[11:52] <Pyrobob> thats what it said when I tried "sudo apt-get install gcc"
[11:52] <brexel> looks more reasonable eazy
[11:52] <eazy> k...thanx! :)
[11:52] <brexel> Pyrobob: kk then go for make
[11:52] <Pyrobob> I tried make already
[11:52] <Pyrobob> said it wasn't a command or somthing
[11:52] <Pyrobob> bash: make: command not found
[11:53] <trappist> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:53] <brexel> Pyrobob: sudo apt-get install make
[11:53] <brexel> the command is called 'make;
[11:53] <brexel> make
[11:53] <trappist> no, build-essential
[11:53] <Pyrobob> ...
[11:54] <eazy> having karamba on my desktop telling me that my ram is almost all used up ....stupid thing ;)
[11:54] <trappist> brexel: build-essential is a metapackage that will install everything you need to do most of your compiling.  automake, autoconf, gcc, g++ etc.
[11:54] <brexel> i know thanks :)
[11:54] <trappist> err meant to say that to Pyrobob
[11:54] <brexel> ^^
[11:54] <brexel> np
[11:55] <Pyrobob> k I didn't know if I had to re-do "./configure"
[11:55] <Pyrobob> so I gotta wait for that to finish
[11:56] <Pyrobob> make works
[11:57] <Pyrobob> thanks guys
[11:57] <brexel> yw