[01:15] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: don't suppose you've got konversation .19 for breezy w/ 3.5.1? It doesn't like going back and forth between that vers on dapper and breezy's version, which I run into switching to breezy so I can print.
[01:22] <Hobbsee> hmmm....looks like everyone works on the ndiswrapper-utils package at random
[03:01] <bobesponja> hey all
[03:02] <bobesponja> my qt4 program segfaults since I upgraded libmysql on draper
[03:03] <bobesponja> it displays some mysql data in a qtableview, I had some doubt weather it was my code or the lib so i did a test program that display mysql users in a qtableview and it does segfault all the time
[03:03] <bobesponja> here it is http://p80.free.fr/basicmysql.tar.bz2
[03:03] <bobesponja> could someone confirm it?
[03:06] <bobesponja> you can modify connection.h to change the mysql pqssword password
[03:33] <bobesponja> anyone? :)
[04:41] <Tonio_> hi ;)
[04:41] <jjesse> hi
[04:42] <Hobbsee> hey
[04:43] <Tonio_> about to finish the testing kubuntu-default-settings..........
[04:44] <Tonio_> but I did so many changes that it'll be very long to write the changelog ;)
[04:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:44] <Hobbsee> type quickly :P
[04:46] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: want a summary the list? just wait...
[04:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:46] <Hobbsee> may as well just type the entire list in here, tehn copy paste
[04:48] <Tonio_> I added an entry in K menu for konqueror filemanagement profile in system, revued completly the font sizing for all applications, modified kickerrc, settings of kopete, konversation, knotes, added a default config for knemo (waiting for main inclusion), modified again konquerors settings,changed the kdm theme, ksplash theme, added adept on kicker by default, added the printing submenu to K menu.....
[04:48] <Tonio_> plus many more little improvement
[04:49] <jjesse> did kappfinder get removed from dapper?
[04:49] <Tonio_> jjesse: dunno, I don't use dapper
[04:51] <Hobbsee> nice!
[04:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the idea is that there are many settings people will all have to do...
[04:51] <Hobbsee> very true
[04:51] <Hobbsee> what's the kdm theme like nwo?
[04:51] <Tonio_> for example about everyone using konversation wants it in the systray.... so that's better to preconfigure it....
[04:52] <Hobbsee> hehe - not in my book, but yeah
[04:52] <Tonio_> the rare people that don't want it can of course change that after....
[04:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: the kdm ?
[04:52] <Tonio_> let me show you ;)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ok
[04:52] <Tonio_> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29331
[04:52] <Tonio_> simply lovely !
[04:53] <Tonio_> and the splash http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29426
[04:53] <Tonio_> the only problem is that moodin isn't in main for the moment.... Riddell is waiting for main inclusion to add a dep for it on kubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <Tonio_> otherwise I will have to change that.......
[04:53] <Hobbsee> nice!
[04:54] <jjesse> Riddell: apply the kubuntu stylesheet to the quickguide plase
[04:54] <Tonio_> allee: ping ?
[04:58] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: if you have any suggestions for the settings, or things that you found on the default profile that can be changed, plz tell me ;)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> in all of kde?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> *thinks*
[04:59] <Tonio_> yep
[04:59] <Tonio_> I don't have the perfect feeling you know, all suggestions are welcome :)
[05:00] <jjesse> can someone add kubuntu to the default openoffice org dictionary, i find that silly :)
[05:00] <Hobbsee> can we have the proper oo.o icons?  the other ones are very unsaturated and dull
[05:00] <Hobbsee> much easier to differentiate by colour
[05:00] <Tonio_> jjesse: ho my god you're right !! haha ;)
[05:00] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[05:01] <Tonio_> jjesse: I can do that in kubuntu-default-settings
[05:01] <jjesse> kubuntu and ubuntu should be in the dictionary :)
[05:01] <Tonio_> jjesse: anyway shouldn't that be a global ubuntu change ?
[05:01] <jjesse> i have no idea, was just working in OO today nad noticed it
[05:03] <Hobbsee> *meant
[05:03] <Tonio_> freeflying: I thought about that, but really, koffice isn't mature enought for the moment........
[05:04] <Tonio_> maybe dapper+1 with koffice 1.5
[05:04] <Tonio_> do you have the feeling that koffice can replace msoffice or OOo ?
[05:05] <freeflying> Tonio_: iif you don't exchange file with others using msoffice , koffice is perfect now 
[05:05] <Tonio_> I personnaly tried to replace OOo by koffice, and came back to OOo....
[05:05] <freeflying> s/iif/if
[05:05] <Tonio_> freeflying: but....... technically, people are exchanging files most generally
[05:05] <Tonio_> except if you know linux users only...
[05:06] <Tonio_> but I agree that to produce files, it is excellent...
[05:06] <Tonio_> I think koffice on kubuntu isn't compiled with msoffice files support....
[05:06] <freeflying> but wee can use pdf format for exchange 
[05:06] <Tonio_> could be interesting to test that compatibility, to try exports etc....
[05:06] <freeflying> s/wee/we
[05:07] <Tonio_> freeflying: exporting a spreadshit isn't of any interest.....
[05:07] <Tonio_> koffice isn't only kword
[05:07] <freeflying> Tonio_: in my remaster livecd , I remove OOo. and use koffice as default
[05:07] <freeflying> Tonio_: I see
[05:08] <Tonio_> freeflying: I personnaly add the authorization to use kubuntu at work, and honnestly, without msoffice files support, it is almost unusable
[05:09] <Tonio_> but I would be interested to look at the msoffice compatibility..... can be added easilly in the package.... need to talk about that to Riddell 
[05:09] <Tonio_> if it works quite okay, that would be interesting, indeed
[05:09] <jjesse> Tonio_: at work i still use windows via a citrix or remote desktop connection just cause of MS  Office compatabitliy and of course the need for Exchange access
[05:10] <Tonio_> jjesse: exchange can be used via evolution if owa is activated
[05:10] <freeflying> Tonio_: koffice can not handle msoffice file well now , I don't what will it be ,
[05:10] <Tonio_> and eventually kontact if you have imap connection authorization....
[05:11] <Tonio_> jjesse: I personnaly use excahnge with contact, ldap for shared contacts, owa plugin for calendar, and imap for mails
[05:11] <Tonio_> works like a charm ;)
[05:11] <Tonio_> the only thing you miss is shared folder, but that's an heresy to use that in exchange....
[05:11] <Tonio_> file servers are to be used for this
[05:12] <jjesse> agreed, however sharepoint throws a wrench in things
[05:12] <jjesse> and my cold storage system for reports off the as/400 requires the .net framework :(
[05:12] <Tonio_> jjesse: yup, but sharepoint is a pain to publish on the web without isa server......
[05:13] <Tonio_> I hate that non standard ms webdav implementation
[05:13] <jjesse> agreed
[05:13] <Tonio_> jjesse: but there is a solution ;)
[05:13] <jjesse> tell them to run linux ;)
[05:13] <Tonio_> pound is able to feet with that crappy implementation for reverse proxying, while squid doesn't really manage....
[05:14] <Tonio_> I implemented a pound reverse proxy for owa publication on the web, it does an outstanding job !
[05:14] <jjesse> nice, i use a front-end and back-end exchange server setup that works nicely as well....
[05:15] <Tonio_> I simply added the msdav option in the source package, and I need to ping the packager about that, cause that should be activated by default I think
[05:15] <Tonio_> jjesse: do you publish on the web ?
[05:15] <jjesse> externally?  nope just to vpn subnet
[05:15] <Tonio_> ahhhhhh ok ;)
[05:16] <Tonio_> I though you simply put your exchange in front of the web via a reverse nat rule lol
[05:16] <jjesse> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:16] <Tonio_> about to have an heart attack 
[05:16] <Tonio_> LOL
[05:16] <Tonio_> but I must say IIS6 is surprising, very few security falures
[05:16] <Tonio_> less that apache2 according to bugtrack
[05:17] <jjesse> i have two exchange servers, front end server runs OWA and receives inbound smtp mail... virus scanning and spam filtering occurs there, then it passes the email to the internal mail server through specified ports in the firewall
[05:17] <Tonio_> that's not IIS5 for sure
[05:17] <Tonio_> jjesse: okay ;)
[05:17] <Tonio_> ho jjesse I'm searching for a quite good antivirus for exchange protection 
[05:17] <jjesse> i use the trend micro product for exchange
[05:17] <Tonio_> actually using trend, but I think about changing....
[05:18] <Tonio_> what are you using ?
[05:18] <jjesse> lol
[05:18] <Tonio_> don't tell me norton.......... plz don't tell that
[05:18] <jjesse> nope trend micro
[05:19] <jjesse> did you know trend is recommended by the examiners for the FDIC?
[05:19] <Tonio_> okay, quite good, but updating process doesn't work for me, and their ingeneers are not able to find the solution....... I think about switching to sophos
[05:19] <Tonio_> seems to be a killer app for exchange
[05:19] <Tonio_> jjesse: well, I never listen to recommenders......
[05:19] <Tonio_> isn't dell recommending WinXP ? ^_^
[05:20] <jjesse> sometimes you have too
[05:20] <Tonio_> I personnaly prefer to get my own opinion when it's possible
[05:20] <jjesse> agreed but sometimes the examiners are a pita
[05:20] <Tonio_> true, but if they are not.....
[05:21] <jjesse> i totally understand and agree with you
[05:21] <Tonio_> sometime commercials are honnest, sometime not, and the deal is, how to guess it
[05:21] <Tonio_> same issue ;)
[05:21] <Tonio_> trend is good, but they don't provide support for Small Business solutions
[05:22] <jjesse> dang i was wondering why i'm not getting all those hot chicks when i drink the same beer as the guy who drinks it on tv
[05:22] <Tonio_> sophos offers 24/7 support for the same price.... thet's a hudge difference to me
[05:22] <jjesse> that would be nice
[05:22] <Tonio_> indeed ;)
[05:22] <jjesse> oh well time for bed, another long day at work tomorrow, nice talking to you
[05:23] <Tonio_> pleasure jjesse ;) it is rare that we can talk a bit of sysadmin here :)
[05:23] <jjesse> and windows sysadmin at that :)
[05:23] <Tonio_> jjesse: I do both win and lin ;)
[05:23] <Tonio_> but the facts is that it is so hard making companies using linux........
[05:24] <jjesse> ah, i only have one linux server right now, trying to get more involved
[05:24] <Tonio_> I replaced 50% of our win 2003 by ubuntu server !!
[05:24] <Tonio_> they were not pleased at all when I make the proposal, but now, nobody would even think to come back to win
[05:24] <jjesse> that's awesome
[05:24] <Tonio_> the only thing I couldn't replace was exchange/AD
[05:25] <jjesse> when you are an IT staff of two things take a little longer sometimes
[05:25] <Tonio_> free groupware solution + openldap are not mature enough
[05:25] <Tonio_> and I'm so sick listening "we want red hat"
[05:25] <Tonio_> damn, RH isn't a good distro !!! that has to be said once and for all
[05:26] <jjesse> the deal with RH is tht it just has the marketing
[05:26] <Tonio_> novell is quite opkay, or even mandriva server solution, but not RH
[05:26] <jjesse> and because you pay for it it sounds better
[05:26] <Tonio_> they have horrible packages, they don't maintain most of them, and no really inovative solution....
[05:26] <Tonio_> even fedora has a better package management
[05:26] <jjesse> i haven't used RH since RH 7
[05:26] <Tonio_> did you know RH still doesn't use yum ?
[05:27] <Tonio_> they use their old crappy system
[05:27] <jjesse> red carpet instead?
[05:27] <Tonio_> what the name ? hum...... don't remember
[05:27] <jjesse> oh well, gotta head to bed, talk to you later Tonio_
[05:28] <Tonio_> nite jjesse  :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: it'd be nice if the settings, stay open in system manager on close option in kwifimanager was selected, in the default settings...
[05:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: okay
[05:51] <Tonio_> anyway it would be nicer if kwifimanager wouldn't exist at all in my opinion ;)
[05:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:51] <Hobbsee> well, it makes it easy to see when your connection has dropped out
[05:51] <Tonio_> knemo does that too :)
[05:51] <robotgeek> Network Manager rocks for most ppl
[05:52] <Hobbsee> knemo...didnt see that one...
[05:52] <Tonio_> robotgeek: yes but the kdefrontend isn't available for our current networkmanager version
[05:52] <Tonio_> it'll be in dapper+1
[05:52] <robotgeek> Tonio_: however, the applet (ugly) does work in kde also
[05:52] <Tonio_> the applet ?
[05:53] <robotgeek> nm-applet --sm-disable & 
[05:53] <Tonio_> doesn't it require cvs version of networkmanager ?
[05:53] <Tonio_> ah this one :)
[05:53] <robotgeek> hmm, no i was able to use it dapper kubuntu
[05:54] <Tonio_> hum, okau robotgeek 
[05:54] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: and how do you run knemo?
[05:54] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: here is the issue :) it requires a bit of configuration (resolved with my kubuntu-settings package)
[05:55] <Tonio_> go in kde services and start it
[05:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:55] <Hobbsee> how long till your settings package?
[05:55] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: in dapper ?
[05:55] <Tonio_> dunno
[05:55] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:55] <Hobbsee> hmm ok, how does one get into kde services?
[05:55] <Tonio_> I did lots of changes that should be discussed at the kubuntu meeting 02/16
[05:56] <Hobbsee> excellent :)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> cos the old settings were terrible, to be frank :P
[05:56] <Tonio_> some of them may be discussed and rejected....
[05:56] <Hobbsee> they seemed to make kde look really chunky and horrible...
[05:56] <Hobbsee> true
[05:56] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I agree, that's the reason I decided to work on that :)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:57] <Tonio_> do you want a screenshot of the default aspect actually ?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> i'm in system services, in system settings - that where you mean?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> yeah
[05:57] <Tonio_> http://www.planetemu.net/temp/dapper.png
[05:57] <Tonio_> not finished, but that's it
[05:57] <Tonio_> I think about removing that blue background on kicker, and live it naked, that's pretty better
[05:58] <Tonio_> and I think the trash on the right isn't the good place.... it has to be the clock
[05:58] <Tonio_> but where should I put the trash ? thatt's the question :)
[05:58] <Hobbsee> do you need the trash there?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> looks much nicer
[05:59] <Tonio_> hum, yes, that's a ubuntu specific to have the trash in the bars, so I can't/don't want to remove that....
[05:59] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[05:59] <Tonio_> I think aout placing it nearby the system applet 
[05:59] <Tonio_> no ?
[06:00] <Tonio_> between system and adept
[06:00] <Hobbsee> oh, over there...
[06:00] <Hobbsee> yeah, that probably makes sense for it
[06:00] <Hobbsee> any chance there's more of an interesting background pic that's got something to do with kubuntu?  it's very blue...
[06:01] <Hobbsee> and i know i'm a girl, who likes pretty colours, but even so...
[06:03] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: I searched but didn't found something convenient........
[06:03] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:03] <Tonio_> I have a marvellous green background, but there is no licence on it.....
[06:03] <Hobbsee> contact the creator?
[06:03] <Tonio_> I need to see with the guy if we can get a gpl licence on it
[06:04] <Tonio_> and anyway, that may need to be changed a bit to add kubuntu on it, with the logo and a nice effect
[06:04] <Tonio_> want to see it ?
[06:04] <Hobbsee> yes
[06:04] <Tonio_> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24315136/
[06:05] <Tonio_> that with a few modifications, including a kubuntu logo with a nice effect, could be really beautifull
[06:05] <Hobbsee> nice!
[06:05] <Hobbsee> indeed
[06:05] <Tonio_> and green fits very nice with blue
[06:05] <Tonio_> I agree that the actual theme is blue with blue on blue
[06:05] <Hobbsee> i'm starting to sound massively negative here, but i'm aware that green's fairly well associated with suse...
[06:06] <Hobbsee> yeha - just a little too much blue!
[06:06] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: bah........ blue is affiliated with mandriva, red with redhat etc....
[06:06] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[06:06] <Hobbsee> then go for it :)
[06:07] <robotgeek> i think we could make it blue pretty easily :)
[06:07] <Tonio_> I need that wallpaper gpled at the first place ;)
[06:07] <Hobbsee> true
[06:07] <Hobbsee> and good point
[06:09] <robotgeek> m.hoefele@gmx.net
[06:09] <robotgeek> that's the guys email
[06:17] <Hobbsee> some nice wallpapers on kdelook
[06:18] <Hobbsee> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=34944&file1=34944-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=caillou1024
[06:18] <Hobbsee> like that, but that's a little busy maybe
[06:18] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: that hurts my eyes :)
[06:19] <Hobbsee> hey nice!  http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=34933&file1=34933-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Aquarela
[06:22] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: let me check :)
[06:22] <Tonio_> to flashy for a default one......
[06:23] <Tonio_> default one has to be something peacefull and probably not that agressive :)
[06:23] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/screenshot-2.png 
[06:23] <Tonio_> even though I personnaly like this one
[06:23] <robotgeek> i think it's too dark
[06:23] <Tonio_> robotgeek: are you fine with those big fonts ? just to get the global kde users feeling ;)
[06:24] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: i know, i just found a couple of pretty ones
[06:24] <Tonio_> robotgeek: I have the same in green there : http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24315136/
[06:24] <Tonio_> it is not gpl......
[06:24] <robotgeek> Tonio_: hmm, it is the same thing, should i contact the author for a license?
[06:24] <Tonio_> I already thought using it, cause it is beautifull, modern, and not agressive
[06:25] <Tonio_> robotgeek: that's on my plans ;)
[06:25] <robotgeek> cool, i'll get back to work on the DesktopGuide
[06:25] <Tonio_> but if you can do it.... did you change the color by yourself ?
[06:25] <Hobbsee> that's pretty robotgeek!
[06:26] <Hobbsee> and i like that font, too
[06:26] <robotgeek> heh, thanks to kde settings. Right Click -> COnfigure Desktop -> Hue Shift
[06:26] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:26] <Tonio_> ah okay, you apply a color sheme directly on it ;)
[06:27] <robotgeek> and i just reduced all fonts by 2 points (they are all defaults)
[06:27] <Tonio_> hum what am I saying...
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> I wish more screen art had widescreen offerings.
[06:28] <Tonio_> LeeJunFan: +1
[10:08] <Tm_T> aergh
[10:09] <jpatrick> Tm_T: morning to you top
[10:09] <jpatrick> too*
[10:09] <Tm_T> ok, Kopete 0.12 has dependency to libortp0 what is in breezy but not in dapper
[10:11] <Tm_T> so, what we gonna do?
[10:11] <jpatrick> suffer
[10:11] <Tm_T> :p
[10:11] <jpatrick> ;)
[10:12] <jpatrick> we'll have to get it in Dapper?
[10:12] <Tm_T> aye, that's what I'm thinking
[10:12] <Tm_T> there's libortp2 what ofcourse doesn't work
[10:12] <Tm_T> different abi
[10:18] <Tm_T> and looks like I had newer ortp0 than in breezy
[10:19] <Tm_T> so! it WAS in dapper
[10:19] <jpatrick> :/ .... 
[10:22] <freeflying> Tm_T: kopete is ok ?
[10:23] <jpatrick> Riddell: kdmtheme ready: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1690
[10:26] <freeflying> Tm_T: libortp0 in breezy not in dapper ?
[10:37] <Tm_T> freeflying: not anymore in dapper
[10:37] <jpatrick> Riddell: styleclock ready: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1691 :)
[10:47] <Tm_T> :p
[10:47] <Tm_T> wild and rebellious
[10:47] <jpatrick> Tm_T: I got thrown out cos my parents haven't paid
[10:48] <Tm_T> freeflying: do you know where all removed packages end up?
[10:48] <Tm_T> (from dapper repositories I mean)
[10:48] <freeflying> Tm_T: sorry , I don't know 
[10:49] <Tm_T> ok
[10:49] <jpatrick> Tm_T: /dev/null
[10:49] <Tm_T> jpatrick: I afraid so
[10:49] <Tm_T> oh well...
[10:54] <luka74> Tm_T: have you looked in your /var/cache/apt/archives (if it was installed it may be there)
[11:01] <Tm_T> luka74: ofcourse it's not anymore ;(
[12:02] <Tm_T> jpatrick: I'll do package without jingle
[12:02] <Tm_T> so no dependencies to ortp then
[12:05] <jpatrick> hello Mez 
[12:05] <Mez> hi
[12:07] <sealne> can anyone think why lintian might complain about no-copyright-file when debian/copyright exists?
[12:08] <jpatrick> sealne: 'lintian -i' is your friend
[12:09] <sealne> ta
[12:10] <Tm_T> ufff
[12:13] <Tm_T> ok, here's the problem: I can build Kopete package without ortp0 dependency, but then we loose one of our newest and greatest feature
[12:13] <Tm_T> I can build package with jingle support, but then... oh, dapper doesn't offer all dependencies \o/
[12:14] <jpatrick> Tm_T: get the deps into dapper
[12:14] <Tm_T> jpatrick: how? who I have to push?
[12:15] <Tm_T> should I send a fanmail to someone? ;)
[12:15] <jpatrick> MOTU
[12:15] <Tm_T> one way to go yes
[12:16] <Tm_T> I don't have a time or skills to maintain those packages + libortp0-dev conflicts with libortp2-dev package
[12:18] <jpatrick> Tm_T: where can I find libort?
[12:20] <Tm_T> jpatrick: no idea
[12:20] <Tm_T> argh, have to go, trying to come back soon ->
[12:20] <jpatrick> okay, cya
[12:44] <Tm_T> back
[12:46] <Tm_T> uh, mail from military, it can be three things: 1) they are asking me back 2) they are ordering me back 3) they are sending me to prison because I'm not back
[12:46] <Tm_T> let's see what it is...
[12:47] <Tm_T> phew, 1)
[12:56] <sealne> jpatrick: any other ideas about the copyright file? linitian i think is complaining it won't be installed am i maybe missing something, how does debian/copyright normally get to /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/copyright ?
[12:57] <jpatrick> sealne: it's terribly odd if you ask me..
[12:58] <sealne> i'd thought that it knew what to do with debian/copyright automatically
[12:58] <jpatrick> sealne: it should
[12:58] <jpatrick> maybe the prefix is wrong..
[12:58] <sealne> which prefix?
[01:06] <Riddell> sealne: are you using cdbs or just debhelper?
[01:06] <Riddell> copyright is installed by dh_installdocs
[01:06] <sealne> debhelper
[01:06] <sealne> ah
[01:07] <sealne> i got carried away removing stuff from rules
[01:07] <Riddell> :)
[01:09] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[01:09] <Riddell> morning freeflying 
[01:10] <Riddell> I see skim et al are ready to promote
[01:10] <freeflying> Riddell: y
[01:11] <freeflying> Riddell: kubuntu CDs you sent me are about 600 pieces
[01:11] <Riddell> yes
[01:13] <freeflying> Riddell: I have deliver more than 500 now , and still many request  ,:)
[01:13] <teprrr> hmm, there's no package for 2.6.15-12 kernel headers at all?
[01:13] <Riddell> unfortunaly I'm almost out of Kubuntu CDs myself
[01:13] <teprrr> vmware doesn't want to work with 2.6.15-10 ones..
[01:14] <Riddell> linux-headers-2.6.15-15-686
[01:16] <Tonio_> hi all
[01:16] <jpatrick> hello Tonio_ 
[01:18] <teprrr> Riddell, The directory of kernel headers (version 2.6.15-15-686) does not match your
[01:18] <teprrr> running kernel (version 2.6.15-12-k7). 
[01:18] <jpatrick> linux-headers-2.6.15-15-k7
[01:18] <Riddell> well get the k7 headers and upgrade the linux build to -15
[01:20] <Tm_T> teprrr: -12 :o
[01:21] <freeflying> Riddell: seems you'd pay me the postage   :)
[01:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: I was searching for an eventual new wallpaper for kubuntu...
[01:21] <Riddell> freeflying: hmm?
[01:21] <teprrr> sounds like I have to reboot :p
[01:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: do you obviously want a blue one or can it be another color ?
[01:21] <Riddell> Tonio_: another colour is probably fine
[01:22] <teprrr> just thought if there's easier way to do this.. but well, doh
[01:22] <Riddell> although I think canonical will be getting backgrounds made for dapper, it does no hard to pick one ourselves in the mean time
[01:22] <Tonio_> Riddell: yes, because I was thinking that blue, with blue on blue, that was a bit too much ;)
[01:22] <Tonio_> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24315136/ any opinion on this ?
[01:23] <Tonio_> modified with a nice kubuntu logo + text could be really nice.... green feets well with blue
[01:23] <freeflying> Riddell: what I've paid for the deliver in China 
[01:23] <Tonio_> I just need to contact the guy to know if he wants to gpl this :)
[01:23] <jpatrick> Tonio_: one word: Vista
[01:24] <Tonio_> jpatrick: hum..... vista isn't out at the moment... and that make me think about plants more than vista.... no ?
[01:25] <Riddell> freeflying: do you have receipts?
[01:25] <sealne> on the wiki about REVU it says to do dput *_source.changes i only have a i386.changes
[01:25] <Riddell> looks a nice background
[01:25] <Riddell> sealne: debuild -S  for a source package
[01:25] <Riddell> sealne: do you have an account on revu?
[01:25] <jpatrick> sealne: did you package with -S -sa?
[01:26] <sealne> well awhile ago i did something about an account
[01:26] <Riddell> sealne: upload and find out then :)
[01:26] <Riddell> dput revu foo.changes (else it'll go to ubuntu)
[01:26] <jpatrick> or change your config like I did
[01:27] <sealne> cool got a *source.changes
[01:27] <sealne> bah next flaw "bash: dput: command not found" :)
[01:28] <jpatrick> install it
[01:28] <sealne> really :)
[01:29] <Riddell> apt-get install dput
[01:30] <Riddell> dput uses ftp
[01:30] <freeflying> Riddell: sure ,but it will be a trouble for u pay me . ^_^
[01:30] <Riddell> freeflying: why?
[01:30] <sealne> yeah dput went fine but trying to look at revu now
[01:30] <Riddell> takes 5 minutes to show up
[01:31] <sealne> looks like revu is down?
[01:31] <Riddell> hmm, yes
[01:31] <jpatrick> just poked siretart
[01:33] <freeflying> Riddell: will u add skim into kubuntu's seeds
[01:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: just to inform you that the modif splash works perfectly while installed threw the package..........;
[01:34] <Riddell> freeflying: has been added for ages, I just need to ask for them to be promoted
[01:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: let's hop moodin will go to main
[01:34] <Riddell> Tonio_: modif splash?
[01:35] <Tonio_> moodin splash, sorry....
[01:35] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I hope so too (since it's my package :) ;) )
[01:35] <Tonio_> jpatrick: hehe
[01:36] <Riddell> jpatrick: mako says it's ok to poke him anytime, preferably with a meeting transcript
[01:37] <jpatrick> Riddell: about the CC / moodin
[01:37] <freeflying> Riddell: do you have the theme file of wiki.kubuntu.org
[01:38] <Riddell> jpatrick: about membership
[01:38] <Riddell> freeflying: no, you'd need to ask hno73
[01:38] <jpatrick> right, next time he's around I poke
[01:39] <Tonio_> can't find anylicence information for that wallpaper........
[01:40] <Tonio_> public domain cannot be distributed everywhere I think, no ?
[01:41] <Riddell> public domain is fine
[01:42] <Tonio_> and an image who's hosted and published on a website without any kind of licence information, can that be considered PD or not ?
[01:42] <Riddell> no
[01:43] <Tonio_> okay so I need to contact that guy and get confirmation that it is PD, gpl or something....
[01:43] <Riddell> yep
[01:43] <Riddell> CC is also fine
[01:43] <Riddell> so long as it's a free CC
[01:44] <Tonio_> okay
[01:54] <Tm_T> jpatrick: ugh
[01:55] <Riddell> freeflying: main promotions are funny at the moment due to the soyuz change, I've sent an e-mail asking them to be promoted
[01:56] <freeflying> Riddell: thx
[01:57] <Tm_T> jpatrick: what you meant by asking "where can I find libort?"
[01:58] <Tm_T> jpatrick: I installed my packages from breezy, that's all I know about it
[01:58] <jpatrick> Tm_T: I'll package it for Dapper?
[01:58] <Tm_T> jpatrick: ooh! ok, I'll try to find sources ;)
[01:59] <jpatrick> Tm_T: what's the package?
[01:59] <Tonio_> Riddell: we are discussing the dpi and font configuration or ubuntu on ubuntu-motu
[02:00] <jpatrick> Tonio_: #ubuntu-meeting ...
[02:00] <Tm_T> jpatrick: libortp0, looks like it's part of linphone
[02:02] <jpatrick> Tm_T: odd linphone in Breezy is different from Dappers
[02:02] <Tonio_> jpatrick: what meeting currently ?
[02:03] <jpatrick> I thought it was on the agenda for Kubuntu Meeting
[02:03] <jpatrick> allee added it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings
[02:04] <Tm_T> jpatrick: aye, point is that you have to use linphone 1.1.x to get libortp that is compatible with libjingle
[02:04] <Tm_T> jpatrick: atleast that's how I know it
[02:05] <jpatrick> Tm_T: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libortp2-dev ?
[02:05] <jpatrick> bonjour JRe 
[02:06] <Tm_T> jpatrick: nope, doesn't compile with it
[02:06] <JRe> lo jpatrick 
[02:06] <Tm_T> too much chanced
[02:07] <jpatrick> just build-dep on it
[02:07] <JRe> Riddell: usability question for you
[02:07] <Riddell> JRe: oui?
[02:07] <Tm_T> jpatrick: no, I can configure, but I get errors while compiling
[02:07] <JRe> Riddell: how do you think it's the best way to manage backup error detected by the backup daemon of Keep
[02:07] <JRe> Riddell: via a logfile and a front-end to that log file ?
[02:08] <Riddell> JRe: sounds good yes
[02:08] <jpatrick> Tm_T: bad code then :|
[02:08] <Riddell> if it's a serious problem the user should be notified
[02:08] <Tm_T> jpatrick: there's reason why libortp has different numbers ;)
[02:09] <JRe> Riddell: yes sure. Unfortunately using KNotify with a KDED module is horrible
[02:09] <Riddell> jsgotangco: hay!  don't tell ogra do drop KDE!
[02:09] <Tm_T> jpatrick: ok, have to do packages without jingle then ;(
[02:09] <Riddell> jsgotangco: why's that?
[02:10] <jsgotangco> Riddell, heh ogra's just opening his options i don't think we'll drop the kde edu apps this late in the game
[02:10] <jsgotangco> amd64 and ppc overflows
[02:10] <jpatrick> Tm_T: it builds on Breezy's one?
[02:14] <Windkracht8> Hello all, question: I want to add a system tray icon to my program which shows the status of the program, does someone know a howto or tutorial to do this?
[02:15] <Windkracht8> oh, yes, one thing: it has to work on KDE AND GNOME
[02:15] <Tm_T> jpatrick: it does build fine if I install libortp0 and -dev from breezy
[02:16] <Tm_T> jpatrick: so yes, it prolly build just fine in breezy
[02:16] <Riddell> Windkracht8: that's a #kde-devel question but you want to use one of these http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKSystemTray.html
[02:16] <Riddell> the system tray stuff works on both gnome and kde
[02:17] <Windkracht8> ok, thanks
[02:18] <jpatrick> Tm_T: maybe: Build-dep libortp0-dev (= 1.0.1)
[02:18] <Tm_T> jpatrick: >=
[02:18] <Tm_T> jpatrick: dapper had 1.1.0
[02:19] <jpatrick> Tm_T: it has to = breezy's one
[02:19] <Tm_T> ok ok
[02:20] <Tm_T> hum, I really would like to have original debian/control of kopete, this my creation is just a mess
[02:22] <jpatrick> hello Hobbsee 
[02:22] <Hobbsee> hi jpatrick 
[02:22] <Hobbsee> well, my wireless *sorta* works
[02:22] <Hobbsee> now if i can just figure out how to get a dhclient wlan0 into whatever startup script for the network, then i think i'll be done
[02:23] <Tm_T> hobb hobb
[02:23] <Tm_T> bah, coffee etc ->
[02:23] <jpatrick>  /etc/network/interfaces
[02:23] <Hobbsee> yeah, but what do i put in there?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> just dhclient wlan0?
[02:24] <jpatrick> man:interfaces
[02:24] <Hobbsee> hehe ok
[02:24] <sealne> jpatrick: the thing i uploaded dcfldd still hasn't appeared on revu, is it likely it got lost?
[02:24] <jpatrick> sealne: do you have an account?
[02:25] <sealne> pretty sure i did, tho i've never tried to upload before
[02:26] <jpatrick> Nope, I can't see it
[02:26] <sealne> i sent a signed email
[02:26] <jpatrick> sealne: join #ubuntu-motu and poke siretart
[02:26] <Hobbsee> argh that's very confusing so late at night....
[02:28] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ..
[02:28] <Riddell> auto wlan0
[02:28] <Riddell> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[02:28] <Riddell>        wireless-mode managed
[02:28] <Riddell>        wireless-essid any
[02:29] <Hobbsee> hey wow!
[02:29] <Hobbsee> yep, i'd missed the dhcp one at the end
[02:35] <Hobbsee> ping?
[02:35] <Riddell> pong?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> hmm...ok then
[02:37] <jpatrick> sealne: I see it
[02:38] <sealne> yeah, did you see what i said in #ubuntu-motu? stupid dput overwriting the config
[02:38] <jpatrick> sealne: remove http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/544881 from rules
[02:39] <jpatrick> sealne: in debian/changelog change breezy -> dapper
[02:39] <jpatrick> sealne: compat level is 5 :)
[02:39] <jpatrick> apart from that not bad :)
[02:40] <jpatrick> ps. I prefer cdbs
[02:41] <sealne> should i increment the version number after these changes?
[02:41] <jpatrick> no
[02:41] <sealne> ta, thought not
[02:42] <jpatrick> sealne: debhelper (>= 5.0.0)
[02:43] <sealne> jpatrick: after changing do i just dput again?
[02:44] <jpatrick> sealne: repackage and dput -f *.changes
[02:45] <sealne> done
[02:46] <jpatrick> checking....
[02:47] <jjesse> Riddell: when you get a chance can you put the style sheet on quickguide?
[02:47] <sealne> should i worry about the .mo file linda error?
[02:47] <jpatrick> sealne: no
[02:48] <jpatrick> looks okay to me :)
[02:48] <sealne> jpatrick: thanks
[02:48] <jpatrick> except for that config.sub & .guess in the .diff
[02:48] <sealne> hmm
[02:48] <sealne> not properly cleaning?
[02:49] <jpatrick> No
[02:49] <jpatrick> sealne: rm them yourself i guess
[02:50] <sealne> jpatrick: now it fails to build
[02:51] <jpatrick> oh crikey
[02:51] <jpatrick> that's what I did once
[02:51] <sealne> err hmm ok not fails to build
[02:52] <sealne> jpatrick: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/544902
[02:53] <jpatrick> debuild -S -sa -rfakeroot ?
[02:54] <sealne> -S -sa was all i was using before
[02:55] <jpatrick> I use dpkg-buildpackage
[02:55] <Riddell> debuild will use fakeroot for you
[02:56] <Riddell> that's one reason why it's better than dpkg-buildpackage
[02:56] <Riddell> the other is that is checks build-deps
[02:56] <Riddell> and the final is that it's shorter to type
[02:57] <jpatrick> sealne: looks okay to me...
[02:59] <Riddell> sealne: that's a successful build
[02:59] <sealne> cool
[03:00] <Hobbsee> very weird....
[03:00] <Hobbsee> but it seems to work...
[03:00] <Hobbsee> so i think i'll leave it at that
[03:00] <Hobbsee> night everyone!
[03:02] <freeflying> anyone have try today's dapper-install-powerpc.iso
[03:03] <Riddell> freeflying: no, I should though
[03:04] <freeflying> Riddell: it can not install like beore
[03:04] <Riddell> jjesse: on my todo (along with fixing konqueror links and updating kubuntu-docs package)
[03:04] <Riddell> freeflying: what does it do?
[03:05] <freeflying> Riddell: can not find kernel
[03:05] <Riddell> freeflying: that's not good
[03:05] <jpatrick> sealne: great
[03:05] <freeflying> Riddell: like flight-3
[03:10] <jpatrick> sealne: for extra points - go for a debian/watch file for example: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/544929
[03:27] <Riddell> freeflying: flight 3 also had that problem?
[03:28] <freeflying> Riddell: maybe flight-3 ,or flight-2 
[03:28] <freeflying> Riddell: I can't recall it clearly
[03:29] <jpatrick> Riddell: not entirely sure what to say to mako :|
[03:29] <Riddell> is he about?
[03:30] <jpatrick> I'm talking to him at #ubuntu-devel
[03:30] <jpatrick> sort of
[03:34] <jpatrick> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:36] <jpatrick> Tonio_: good thing I contacted the author to GPL the themes...
[03:40] <Tonio_> jpatrick: cool, got any response so far ?
[03:40] <Tonio_> because I contacted him too in fact ;)
[03:40] <jpatrick> Tonio_: I did  that ages ago
[03:41] <jpatrick> which is why they're GPL now
[03:41] <Tonio_> jpatrick: ho you are talking about the kdm theme and splash ?
[03:41] <jpatrick> yes
[03:41] <Tonio_> I was on the image we discussed yesterdy ;)
[03:41] <Tonio_> yes that's a very nice thing ;)
[03:42] <jpatrick> maybe we should add mooding inclusion to Kubuntu meeting agenda..
[03:50] <jpatrick> okay, where did he go?
[03:51] <Riddell> who?
[03:51] <jpatrick> mako
[03:51] <Riddell> hmm
[03:51] <Riddell> good question
[03:51] <Riddell> when he reappears point him at http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/jpatrick.html
[03:51] <Riddell> and your wiki page
[03:52] <jpatrick> okay
[03:57] <freeflying_> Riddell: have confirmed the probloem of today's ISO
[03:58] <Riddell> freeflying_: what did you do to confirm?
[04:00] <freeflying_> Riddell: sorry , I just wonder have u confirmed the problem I've said above
[04:00] <Riddell> freeflying_: oh, not yet no
[04:05] <bobesponja> Riddell: could you please check if this  http://p80.free.fr/basicmysql.tar.bz2 segfaults please? it's a basic Qt4 app that connects to mysql, it looks like there is a incompatibility bug between libmysqlclient and Qt4 so it segfaults everytime a connection is made :(
[04:06] <bobesponja> Riddell: you can modify connection.h to change the mysql password
[04:08] <Riddell> bobesponja: I don't have time just now I'm afraid
[04:11] <bobesponja> Riddell: ok no problem, I'm gonna post the bug on the bts
[05:14] <sealne> jpatrick: just stick a text file with that called debian/watch, don't need to do anything else?
[05:14] <jpatrick> sealne: that ones obsolete verison of it
[05:15] <sealne> jpatrick: sorry i don't understand what you mean
[05:15] <jpatrick> sealne: the file I provided was old
[05:17] <jpatrick> sealne: example: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/kblogger-0602061835/kblogger-0.4.1/debian/watch
[05:18] <sealne> ah, k
[05:19] <sealne> what does the version relate to?
[05:19] <jpatrick> the version of debian/watch
[05:21] <sealne> so its the version of the watch system, not package
[05:21] <jpatrick> yes
[05:21] <sealne> so identical but with different url
[05:22] <sealne> is that a blank line at the end?
[05:22] <jpatrick> yes
[05:24] <jpatrick> i.e. : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/545111
[05:24] <sealne> yeah
[05:44] <jpatrick> Riddell: can you advocate? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1698
[05:46] <Riddell> jpatrick: is that different from kcontrol-kdmtheme?
[05:46] <jpatrick> Riddell: no
[05:46] <Riddell> why the rename?
[05:47] <jpatrick> the src package is called kdmtheme (because I was told not the change src dir) and binary package it makes is kcontrol-kdmtheme
[05:48] <Riddell> you can actually change the source page name without changing the source directory in the orig
[05:48] <jpatrick> it makes a native then
[05:48] <Riddell> change the name of the orig too
[05:48] <Riddell> just not the contents
[05:49] <Riddell> dpkg-source -x ignores the first level of the .orig.tar
[05:49] <jpatrick> tried that it was refused
[05:49] <Riddell> by who or what?
[05:50] <jpatrick> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1683
[05:51] <jpatrick> 3rd last comment
[05:54] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, so don't change the contents of the .orig, just the name
[05:55] <jpatrick> I did that
[05:56] <Riddell> jpatrick: nope, http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/kcontrol-kdmtheme-0602071510/kcontrol-kdmtheme_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz  hsa a top level directory of kcontrol-kdmtheme/
[05:56] <Riddell> it should have a top level directory of just kdmtheme/
[06:04] <jpatrick> dpkg-source: warning: source directory `./kdmtheme-1.0.1' is not <sourcepackage>-<upstreamversion> `kcontrol-kdmtheme-1.0.1'
[06:04] <Riddell> mv kdmtheme-1.0.1 kcontrol-kdmtheme-1.0.1
[06:06] <jpatrick> arg, now it's a native
[06:07] <jpatrick> so that doesn't work :/
[06:12] <jpatrick> now what...
[06:16] <Riddell> jpatrick: what is the .orig called?
[06:17] <Riddell> and what is the directory called?
[06:17] <Riddell> and what is the package called in debian/control and debian/changelog?
[06:17] <jpatrick> kcontol-kdmtheme_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz && kcontrol-kdmtheme
[06:17] <jpatrick> dir in orig = kdmtheme-1.0.1
[06:18] <jpatrick> extracted dir = kcontol-kdmtheme-1.0.1
[06:18] <Riddell> should be fine
[06:18] <Riddell> can you put it on revu or somewhere and I'll take a look
[06:21] <jpatrick> nativey : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1699
[06:28] <jpatrick> can't we just use the (working) kdmtheme?
[06:28] <Riddell> jpatrick: works for me
[06:29] <jpatrick> :/
[06:35] <Riddell> how do I know if/when revu picks it up?
[06:35] <jpatrick> It doesn't say
[06:35] <Riddell> ah, hmm, I think I just uploaded to ubuntu by mistake :(
[06:35] <jpatrick> .. oh dear...
[06:35] <jpatrick> well that was the plan
[06:37] <Riddell> :)
[06:37] <jpatrick> later oon
[06:41] <jpatrick> lets see if it builds
[06:42] <Riddell> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1700
[06:42] <Riddell> there it is
[06:42] <Riddell> looks ok to me
[06:42] <jpatrick> ah there it is
[06:43] <jpatrick> odd
[06:57] <jpatrick> Riddell: do you think I have what it takes to be a MOTU?
[06:57] <jpatrick> wb luka74_ 
[07:00] <jjesse> Riddell: did you get my message about the theme for quickguide?
[07:09] <Riddell> 14:04 < Riddell> jjesse: on my todo (along with fixing konqueror links and updating kubuntu-docs package)
[07:09] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, I think you're about there
[07:09] <jjesse> Riddell: thanks must have missed them :)
[07:09] <jjesse> is there a place to submit adpet bugs are do they go in launchpad?
[07:10] <jpatrick> Riddell: raphink said I should to the MOTUs and get supporters cos TB is nothing like CC (he said)
[07:11] <Riddell> jjesse: just poke mornfall :)
[07:11] <Riddell> jpatrick: yeah, you need supporters
[07:12] <jpatrick> okay, I have two: you + raphink 
[07:13] <jpatrick> maybe Mez could cheer
[07:13] <Mez> cheer?
[07:13] <jpatrick> support
[07:13] <jjesse> mornfall: did you see my email to kubuntu-devel about the issues i'm having with adept-updater?
[07:14] <jpatrick> Riddell: you uploaded it?
[07:15] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes
[07:15] <jpatrick> :D thanks
[07:17] <Riddell> thank you
[07:17] <jpatrick> right now for kmplayer - since styleclock has issues
[07:19] <mornfall> jjesse: kubuntu-devel? what's that ;p
[07:22] <Riddell> mornfall: mailing list
[07:22] <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-February/000702.html
[07:23] <Tm_T> yeah
[07:23] <Tonio_> Riddell: I may come at the next TB too.... I think it is time to ear if they want me as a MOTU ;)
[07:25] <mornfall> Riddell: i know, i was just trying to imply i don't follow it :)
[07:26] <mornfall> i'll get at it as soon as i get back my klauncher
[07:27] <Riddell> Tonio_: cool
[07:33] <mornfall> Riddell: what's with the post?
[07:34] <Riddell> mornfall: which?
[07:34] <mornfall> [19:21:54]  < Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-February/000702.html
[07:35] <jjesse> mornfall: acutally was questioning this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-February/000727.html
[07:36] <Riddell> ah, my wrong
[07:36] <mornfall> what's flight3's version
[07:36] <mornfall> oh wait
[07:36] <mornfall> hmm
[07:37] <MarioMeyer_> hey
[07:37] <Riddell> mornfall: hi
[07:37] <mornfall> jjesse: the bug is for sure fixed in debian, dunnow which version is latest in dapper
[07:37] <Riddell> err, MarioMeyer_ rather
[07:37] <MarioMeyer_> wanna see the looks on kubuntu-br ?
[07:37] <Riddell> MarioMeyer_: sure :)
[07:37] <MarioMeyer_> http://www.kubuntu-br.org
[07:38] <Riddell> ooh, nice :)
[07:38] <MarioMeyer_> is it ok?
[07:38] <Riddell> MarioMeyer_: looks great
[07:38] <Riddell> MarioMeyer_: what is the CMS?
[07:38] <mornfall> Riddell: may i ask for a sync of adept from sid? and probably libapt-front
[07:38] <MarioMeyer_> Drupal
[07:39] <MarioMeyer_> that's what that user asked for
[07:39] <Riddell> mornfall: proper syncs aren't working at the moment I think, due to change from katie to soyuz, but I can do it manually no problem
[07:39] <mornfall> Riddell: dunnow if it's worth trouble, there'll be an update again shortly
[07:40] <jjesse> well adept-notifier launch automatically then?
[07:40] <mornfall> jjesse: no, that's not done yet
[07:41] <Riddell> mornfall: when is shortly?  we have flight 4 on friday so it would be good to get an update for that
[07:41] <mornfall> Riddell: aha, ok then... shortly is probably in the middle of next week
[07:41] <Riddell> I'll take a look at the current debian version then
[07:41] <Riddell> MarioMeyer_: typo in link to wiki URL
[07:42] <MarioMeyer_> thx
[07:42] <Riddell> MarioMeyer_: what's the guy's name who was going to run it again?
[07:43] <MarioMeyer_> smash_se
[07:43] <MarioMeyer_> his nick
[07:43] <Riddell> that's the guy.  and he's going to put some content on it now?
[07:50] <MarioMeyer_> yep.. i set it up to him.. and he is going to manage it
[07:51] <mornfall> why is launchpad so goddamn unusable
[07:52] <mornfall> how can i get at the finding packages spec
[07:53] <mornfall> aaaaaaaaaaargh
[07:53] <Tm_T> mornfall: here, have a beer
[07:54] <mornfall> bleh
[07:54] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+specs
[07:54] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/finding-packages
[07:54] <mornfall> thanks
[08:19] <MarioMeyer_> Riddell, if anyone is interested in the theme for drupal, just msg me.. k?
[08:23] <Riddell> MarioMeyer_: sure
[08:24] <MarioMeyer_> it's on smash_se's hands now.. ;)
[08:26] <MarioMeyer_> cya
[08:32] <Riddell> adept synced
[08:59] <mornfall> cool
[08:59] <mornfall> if someone manages to crash it, let me know
[08:59] <mornfall> (there actually is a crasher in there, i am hunting it down atm)
[09:09] <ubijtsa> mdz: you have mail
[09:11] <mdz> ubijtsa: I nearly always do; I don't need repeated reminders
[09:11] <ubijtsa> ah ok.. I'll get me coat then
[09:19] <Tm_T> urgh
[09:20] <Tm_T> where I can find debian dir of kopete package
[09:20] <Tm_T> there's no source package of it
[09:36] <sealne> Tm_T: isn't it part of kdenetwork?
[09:46] <jpatrick> sealne: seperate release
[09:46] <sealne> yeah i know, but re source package?
[09:47] <Tm_T> sealne: hum, but I can't use debian dir from there
[09:47] <sealne> ignore me i'm cooking my dinner :)
[09:48] <Tm_T> aye =)
[09:48] <jpatrick> sealne: yummy
[09:48] <Tm_T> let's cook sealne to dinner
[09:48] <Tm_T> errr
[09:48] <jpatrick> Tm_T: okay......
[09:48] <jpatrick> :|
[10:06] <jpatrick> later
[10:40] <Tm_T> ** new Kopete 0.12 alpha packages incoming
[10:58] <Tm_T> hum, now I should buid packages with debug, but dunno how
[11:22] <Tm_T> gotit