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djznhi...12:18
djzni have a NTFS partition that stopped being visible to the user12:18
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jarr3dhi12:26
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jarr3di have a few questions about Apache if anyone could help?12:27
thchi can someone help me out in my struggle with my nforce4 and kde/alsa/oss and amarok ... i dont know whats the problem .. i installed the nvidia sound drivers but oss often stops working with wired noises, and alsa doesnt even get started or just stutters .. maybe someone can help?12:27
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brexeljarr3d: what in particular?12:31
jarr3dall i have done is install it, i want to know how to start from there12:34
brexelapachectl start12:34
brexel(as root)12:34
brexelor with sudo12:34
jarr3dsudo: apachectl: command not found12:35
brexelapache or apache2?12:35
jarr3d212:35
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brexelapache2ctl start12:36
brexel^^12:36
jarr3dok its already running12:36
brexelwell type http://127.0.0.1/ in your browser ^^12:36
jarr3dyep its installed12:37
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jarr3dwhere do i go from there?12:38
neoncodeis it safe to update to KDE 3.5.1? I have KDE 3.5 right now but is it likey to break anything if i update(Via the apt repos)?12:39
brexeljarr3d: well...what do you wanna do? :)12:39
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LeeJunFanneoncode: you have to ask yourself what kde 3.5.1 has that MIGHT be worth breaking your system over at this point. It will PROBABLY work though.12:40
neoncodeLeeJunFan: I just like to update things when I can. If I install it and it fails can I go back easaly?12:41
dark_suici DO have a problem in kde3.5.112:41
dark_suicwith k3b (and i'm not the only one with the same problem)12:41
jarr3di want to set up a server and host my own site...12:41
neoncodedark_suic: What's that? What's up with it?12:41
dark_suici can't burn CDs as k3b says that mkisofs fails12:41
neoncode!mkisofs12:42
brexeljarr3d: well you can already12:42
ubotuneoncode: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:42
brexeljarr3d: what's stopping you? :)12:42
neoncodeWhat's mkisofs?12:42
dark_suicit may be mkisofs fault, but a friend of mine told me that he had the same error just after updating to kde3.5.1, the same as me12:42
jarr3dwhere do i start though12:42
hatake_kakashimake iso filesystem12:42
brexeljarr3d: i'm not sure if i understand the problem ^^12:42
dark_suicneoncode, mkisofs is the program that k3b uses to burn cds12:42
LeeJunFanneoncode: going back isn't as easy as going forward, but it's doable.12:43
brexeljust put your site on the server12:43
brexelor if you haven't done it yet write some html code ^^12:43
neoncodeIs it still possible to burn via the command line or other tools?12:43
jarr3dand how do i put it on my server?12:43
brexelput it in the server's DocumentRoot12:43
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brexelcheck /etc/apache2/apache2.conf for where that is12:44
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dark_suicdon't know, neoncode12:44
dark_suichaven't tested12:44
neoncodeMeh. I guess I'll try it....12:44
dark_suici hope someone here could give me some light over the blackened situation...12:44
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dark_suicfor all the rest, kde 3.5.1 is wonderfull ;)12:44
dark_suicneoncode, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will work better (or at least should :P)12:45
neoncodedark_suic: Too late... what does dist-updrade do?12:45
hatake_kakashi!dist-upgrade12:45
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi12:45
brexelneoncode: upgrade all installed packages to the newest possible version12:45
jarr3dBrexel: is there a program interface i can open for brexel?12:46
jarr3dapache12:46
brexeljarr3d: hmm?12:46
brexeljarr3d: vi :)12:47
dark_suicneoncode, dist-upgrade solves dependencies ;)12:47
dark_suicupgrade may leave packages retained due to dependencies problem12:47
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dark_suicdist-upgrade won't12:47
brexeldark_suic: that is wrong. dist-upgrade upgrades all packages12:47
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neoncodedark_suic: Oh well... If it f*ck's up i'll try dist-updrade (most likely from recovery mode as root...)12:48
brexelupgrade upgrades everything but libc, kernel and the like12:48
jarr3dI just started using kubuntu i dont know much, what i dont understand is , for apache, can i open it and change options in it like windows?12:48
brexeljarr3d: it is exactly the same as in windows12:48
dark_suicbrexel, i said that from seeing a time in which i did upgrade (just added kde351 repo) and it retained lots of packages and dist-upgrade didn't...12:48
brexeljarr3d: just open apache2.conf with a text editor and change what you need changed12:49
dark_suicit could just be that some of the packages may be main lib ones and the other depended on them...12:49
dark_suicthanks for the explanation, btw :)12:49
brexeldark_suic: that is becaus upgrade refuses to upgrade critical packages like the kernel for example :)12:49
brexelyw :)12:49
dark_suicok, ok, now i understand better :)12:50
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hatake_kakashibrexel: btw, I had a recent dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, it still downloads the same package for the kernel that I'm using again12:50
brexeli bet it has a higher minor version number :)12:51
hatake_kakashiblah.. time for coffee12:51
hatake_kakashinope, its exactly the same kernel, and I could not understand why does it need to do that12:51
hatake_kakashianyway, I might give 3.5.1 a go, seeing as how jumping from 3.4 to 3.5 had prevented me access to failsafe mode at X login12:52
brexelhatake_kakashi: i've never seen that happen and i've been using debian+debian like distros for 8 years now ^^12:53
brexelmaybe your apt is fscked12:53
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hatake_kakashibrexel: heh, that wouldn't be surprising12:54
brexel:D12:54
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hatake_kakashithough, to be frank, it was jumping from hoary to breezy and then from there to 3.512:55
beefsprocketcould someone take a look at this error I get when compiling mythtv on kubuntu breezy 64bit? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54417612:55
brexelmmx_gcc.cpp:254: error: cast from short int* to uint loses precision <-- this is a programming error12:55
beefsprockethmm,12:56
brexelmaybe an older version of the c++  compiler allowed that but you version doesn't12:56
brexel*your12:56
beefsprocketi used export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.412:56
beefsprocketshould I try 3.3?12:56
brexelmight help12:56
beefsprocketok, thanks12:56
brexelyw12:56
Hobbseehi all12:56
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beefsprocketI get totally different errors with apt-get source mythtv, which is why I'm trying it myself12:57
hatake_kakashiHobbsee: hi12:57
Hobbseehey hatake_kakashi :)12:57
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hatake_kakashibrb12:58
SuSE_UsERHey Does anyone here know of a free Turing compiler?12:58
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beefsprocketbrexel: still get the same error with 3.301:03
brexelwait01:03
beefsprocketkk01:03
brexelthis is a c++ compiler error01:03
brexelyou need to use a different C++ compiler :)01:03
beefsprocketoh? not gcc then?01:04
beefsprocketlol01:04
brexelgcc = C compiler01:04
djznwhich package is the x-headers01:04
brexelg++ = C++ compiler01:04
beefsprocketthanks for that01:04
brexelyw01:04
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brexeldjzn: xlibs-dev01:04
brexel:D01:04
beefsprocketso how to use export to set g++-3.4 then?01:05
brexeldepends...you should be able to find that out with ./configure --help01:06
thc"export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" i did that jsut a minute ago ;)01:06
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beefsprocketthc: but I've been lead to believe that that is for c not for c++01:06
beefsprocketwell then...01:07
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brexeli'm not entirely certain though ^^01:07
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beefsprockethmm01:08
brexelbut this: virtual void FIRFilterMMX::setCoefficients01:08
brexelis clearly C++01:08
brexelnot C01:08
beefsprocketright because of the :: thing isn't it? I've never taken C or C++, what is that a constructor?01:09
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brexelnope. FIRFilterMMX is the class name and setCoefficients is the method name01:09
beefsprocketok, so setCoefficients is a method of the MMX class? like a subportion or something?01:10
brexelsomething like that yes01:10
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beefsprocketnot to get to into it of course01:10
brexelit says that setCoefficients is defined in the MMX class01:10
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beefsprocketI see, so setCoefficneits inherits the properties of MMX class, while at the same time acting as its own sort of object or group of functions?01:11
beefsprocketcould it be a class and have its own methods as well?01:12
brexelhmmm01:12
brexelno01:12
brexelmethod = function01:12
jarr3dhow do i install limewire after downloading it01:12
brexelit's just a different name01:12
beefsprocketoh, ic01:12
brexela class is just a collection of methods and variables01:13
beefsprocketlearn something new every day here01:13
brexel:)01:13
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jarr3dhow do i install limewire after downloading it?01:15
brexeljust execute the installer ^^01:15
jarr3dthere isn't one? maybe i donwloaded the wrong version] 01:15
brexelwhat did u download?01:16
jarr3dlinux rpm01:16
brexelkubuntu is not an rpm based distro01:17
bimberi!limewire01:17
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.01:17
brexelis there no .bin installer?01:17
brexelyeah or .sh :)01:17
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jarr3dis frontwire better?01:18
brexeli just use amule, nicotine and bittorrent01:18
brexeldunno about frostwire01:18
jarr3damule eh01:18
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NRG88hi, what packages do i have to install for wine?01:22
NRG88wine and libwine ?01:22
hatake_kakashiyes, mainly01:22
brexeljust install wine, apt will do the rest01:22
NRG88but apt doesn't select libwine01:23
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brexelif it needs it it will select it01:23
brexelthat is the whole point of a package management system ^^01:23
brexelyou can check the dependencies with apt-cache show wine01:24
NRG88next winecfg?01:24
brexeli like to use winesetuptk01:25
brexelit's graphical01:25
brexeldunno if it still exists though ^^01:26
jarr3dthe .sh file doesn't do anything01:26
brexelbeen a while since i used wine01:26
hatake_kakashiyeah I've used that when I was on RH801:26
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NRG88but that's a decent version, isn't it?01:26
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NRG88i think somewhere around 0.701:26
brexeljarr3d: you need to execute it ^^01:26
brexelmake it executable and double click it01:26
NRG88i get the followin error in winecfg: wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x7ec2313f (thread 0009), starting debugger...01:27
NRG88:?01:27
NRG88Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000000 in 32-bit code (0x7ec2313f).01:28
NRG88In 32 bit mode.01:28
jarr3dbrexel, i really have no clue what i'm doing01:28
brexelsry i never used winecfg01:28
NRG88then winesetupk?01:28
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brexeljarr3d: right click the .sh file, go to permissions, check the executable thingy and click ok01:28
brexelthen double click the file and some gui installer should come up IIRC01:28
hatake_kakashiNRG88: winesetuptk is in the repos, though I do not know which one, I have universe enabled01:29
hatake_kakashi!info winesetuptk01:29
ubotuwinesetuptk: (Windows Emulator (Configuration and Setup Tool)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.7-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 820 kB, Installed size: 4120 kB01:29
brexelhey :D that is really nice01:29
jarr3dnothing...01:30
NRG88!info wine01:30
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB01:30
edward0omg kopete shows smily faces for irc wth!01:30
brexelJabberWokky: ok, open a shell, cd to where the .sh file is and type this01:30
brexelsh installer.sh01:30
brexelwhere installer.sh is the name of the file01:30
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edward0have a problem with amarok using the amarok-xiine engine it plays a shoutcast stream but there is no sound :(01:31
edward0artsd is running and kde has sounds01:32
brexelshouldn't amarok also use the artsd sink then?01:32
edward0I dunno it said artsd for an engine sucks01:32
edward0so I removed it01:32
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brexelwell :) if you use arts you need to configure your apps to use arts01:33
edward0and kubuntu provides amarok-gstreamer,artsd,xine01:33
brexelonce artsd sits on the sound card it might cause trouble for other non-arts processes to access the soundcard01:33
edward0brexel well the xine engine is configured to use arts01:33
edward0:D01:33
brexel[01:33]  <edward0> and kubuntu provides amarok-gstreamer,artsd,xine01:33
edward0yes01:34
brexelthat sounds more like either xine or artsd01:34
edward0?01:34
brexelamarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player01:34
brexelamarok-arts - aRts engine for the amaroK audio player01:34
edward0amarok-xine too01:34
edward0and gstreamer01:34
edward0:)01:34
brexelif you use artsd you should use amarok-arts and not amarok-xine01:34
edward0negative01:34
brexelbecause?01:35
edward0if you have amarok-xine installed click on Settings/Configure Amarok/Engine choose xine Engine01:35
edward0and it gives you the option for "Output plugin" to use arts01:35
edward0:)01:35
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brexelhave you tried using the amarok-arts package instead of the amarok-xine package yet?01:36
edward0no01:36
edward0arts for an engine sucks01:36
brexeli would try that01:36
edward0it does not work01:36
edward0:D01:36
edward0amarok crashes01:37
edward0lol01:37
brexel:D01:37
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brexeli'm sure it works01:37
edward0no01:37
edward0I am sure it doesn't :)01:37
brexelit does here01:37
edward0it doesn't here :(01:37
edward0I tried playing a stream from playlists under "cool streams" and it just crashes01:37
brexelmight be something else is sitting on your soundcard blocking it?01:38
edward0maybe for a wav or something it works01:38
edward0no01:38
edward0as I said artsd is running and kde has sound01:38
edward0when you just mentioned my nick kopete made some annoying jingle :D01:38
brexel:D01:38
brexeli still don't get why u use artsd for everything but xine for amarok01:39
brexelthat seems error-prone01:39
edward0because kde uses artsd?01:39
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edward0and kubuntu uses kde for desktop environment?01:39
brexelright ^^01:39
brexelas i said, here amarok-arts works fine01:40
brexelhmm01:40
brexeldifficult to say what causes the problem01:40
edward0brexel: did you try a "cool stream" from amarok playlist?01:40
edward0or playing some local file?01:40
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brexeljust a sec i'm trying :)01:42
brexelamarok is a cpu hogging animal01:42
edward0yes01:42
brexel1600 MHz here :/01:43
edward0but kde with amarok/qtcurve looks purty01:43
edward0no I have just reinstalled amarok-arts and it doesn't show up under engine01:43
edward0s01:43
edward0no/now01:44
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brexelit works01:45
edward0:\01:46
brexelgstreamer engine + alsasink wors and gstreamer engine + artssink also works01:46
brexelhttp://64.236.34.196:80/stream/104801:46
brexelthis music sucks :D01:46
edward0lol01:46
edward0amarok needs a vlc engine :)01:47
brexelhehe01:47
brexeli prefer juk01:47
brexelit is slow too01:47
brexelbut not as slow as amarok01:48
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edward0slow?01:48
brexelyes01:48
edward0how is it slow?01:48
brexelas i said, i have only 160 0mhz01:48
brexeltakes forever to start01:48
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brexeland reacts really sloppy01:48
edward0160mhz or 1600mhz?01:48
brexel1600 sry01:48
edward0ugh01:48
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edward0I've used vlc just fine on low eng machines01:49
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edward0600Mhz amds01:49
edward0:D01:49
brexeli have no probs with video01:49
edward0slow because your buffer is to low/high?01:49
brexelbut i have about 50 GB mp3s on my fileserver01:49
brexelno, just the fileserver is old01:50
brexeland 1600 mhz isn't too fast ^^01:50
edward0it's fast enough01:50
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edward0unless you want to play the latest and greatest games :D01:51
brexelhey i played quake4 just fine :)01:51
edward0lol you can play q4 just fine but say vlc is slow O_O01:51
brexelfunny though that doom3 ran slower though it came out earlier01:51
brexelnot vlc01:51
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brexeli never said anything about vlc01:51
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brexeli said amarok and juk are slow01:52
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brexeli dont use vlc01:52
edward0yes amarok is slow01:52
brexelargh i gotta go to bed01:52
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edward0it just crashed using xine engine now :(01:53
brexeleither you have a different problem or xine just sucks01:54
brexeltry gstreamer + artssink :) works fine here01:54
hatake_kakashiI had a problem with xine, I later retraced the problem and found out that I needed to regen locales01:54
brexel<-- bed01:57
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swaitsgenerally, how stable is dapper3 ?02:00
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acehi all02:03
aceanyone experience with dpkg-buildpackage ?02:04
trappistso I followed the nvidia howto on the wiki, but glxinfo says extension GLX is missing, and Xorg.0.log says Failed to load GLX.  what's wrong?02:05
trappist!anyone02:05
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>02:05
swaitsok02:05
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acehello ubotu02:09
aceThank you for the hint02:09
aceBut I think I need a lot of descriotive words02:09
acebefore I can explain my problem02:09
aceand I just don't want to bother anyone02:10
aceexpecially if they never used dpkg-buildpackage and build their kernels02:10
acewith it02:10
aceOh and now I am talking to a bot, too :-(02:11
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djznmy KDE is simply changing the interface font every login...... why the fonts can't get fixed?02:12
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NRG88why can't i run wine?02:20
NRG88wine: creating configuration directory '/home/nrg88/.wine'...02:20
NRG88Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:20
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januszczesc jest ktos z polski ?02:35
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Nomad411!sk02:38
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41102:38
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PCGUESTHello02:38
bimberi!pl02:38
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl02:38
PCGUESTI have a question about putting a Live Linux distro on my USB drive02:39
PCGUESTIf i put a distro like Damn Small Linux on my USB drive, does the drive have to be dedicated to it, or can i have all of my other stuff on my USB drive with the live linux distro?02:39
PCGUESTI have a USB drive with a bunch of stuff on it, but i want to put DSL on it, but i dont know if i need to delete my stuff on my USB first, or if it will work and be able to keep my stuff02:41
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rempresentwhere is a good spot to set up my new kubuntu system, something like ubuntuguide but for kde02:45
rempresent?02:45
hollywoodbrempresent: kubuntu is simply ubuntu with kde packages instead of gnome... the guide should be the same except replace 'synaptic' with 'adept' and 'gedit' with 'kate', etc etc02:45
rempresentsweet02:46
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hollywoodbrempresent: the guide is a bit gnome-centric, some apps will have gnomish dependencies, but if you don't mind having them on your system then no worries02:49
rempresentwhere do most people go to optimize or trim down their KDE02:51
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hollywoodbrempresent: the default kubuntu kde is already pretty trimmed down, what do you mean?02:52
rempresentlike i want to get my system up to date, get universal repositories, and then get vlc with all the necessary files02:53
rempresentthings like that.... most of what is featured on ubuntuguide02:53
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hollywoodbrempresent: well, 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' will get you up to date... you can just uncomment the necessary lines in /etc/apt/sources.list to add universe repositories02:54
hollywoodbnot sure about vlc02:54
robotgeekhollywoodb: one sec, i have link for you02:54
robotgeeksorry, rempresent http://kudos.berlios.de/02:56
robotgeekif you have any questions, just ask02:56
rempresentrockin..02:56
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rempresentthanks robot, this will help tons02:57
acedpkg-buildpackage give me an error02:57
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aceis makes the kernel-image but not the modules02:58
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djk_what's the latest version of kcalc?03:01
Hobbseedjk_: Version: 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu103:02
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djk_Hobbsee: right, but what version is that? 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 is 1.8.103:06
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Hobbseenot sure sorry03:07
djk_Hobbsee: thanks anyway03:07
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HeavyDc223has anyone in here succeeded in getting a modem working in kubuntu?03:32
HeavyDc223or is it completely impossible03:33
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sybesiscan someone help me03:33
Hobbsee!tell sybesis about anyone03:34
sybesisi got problem using ndiswrapper for wifi or just configuring my wifi03:34
sybesismy wifi worked on fedora core 4 so it should work on kubuntu03:35
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Hobbseei've just been setting up wireless hehe...03:35
Hobbseeyep, how far have you gotten?03:35
sybesisndiswrapper installed03:35
Hobbseeyep03:35
sybesisi did install the driver ...03:35
sybesisdriver present,hardware present03:36
Hobbseeso ndiswrapper -l shows driver present, hardware present?03:36
Hobbseeyep03:36
Hobbseethen what have you tried?03:36
sybesiswhen i type iwconfig i see some iformation03:36
sybesisbut there is no access point03:36
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sybesisi cant go in graphical mode to configure my wifi03:37
Hobbseesybesis: iwlist wlan0 scan03:37
sybesisi'm lost with kde03:37
Hobbseehehe yeah, i did mine mostly by CLI03:37
Hobbseesybesis: when you do the iwlist wlan0 scan, does it come up with a network?03:37
sybesisi dont know03:38
sybesisi'm on winxp because i dont have cable connexion03:38
Hobbseesybesis: do you have an ethernet connection there at all?03:38
Hobbseeah ok, on dialup?03:38
sybesisno i'm actually on wireless03:39
Hobbseeyou'll want to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:39
sybesisbut on windows03:39
Hobbseeah...i see...03:39
Hobbseeyep03:39
Hobbseeand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiTroubleshooting03:39
sybesisi have a dual boot03:39
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Hobbseeand the ndiswrapper howto, which i seem to have lost03:40
Hobbseeyep, i understand what you're on03:40
sybesison the first link it show the things about the card in wlan0 but for me its ra003:40
Hobbseeyou're on breezy, i presume?03:40
jarr3dwhere can i download amule for kde?03:40
Hobbseethen substitue ra0 where it says wlan003:40
sybesisso it will be iwlist ra0 scan?03:41
Hobbseeyep03:41
sybesisok i see03:41
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Hobbseethat will find your network03:41
sybesisi hope03:41
LeeJunFanNew notebooks for everyone in the channel if I win $88million mega millions tonight :p03:41
evilhjarr3d: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/amule03:41
LeeJunFan:)03:41
Hobbseethen if it's there, but not set in iwconfig, do a sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname03:41
sybesisi'll be back in few minutes i'll try that03:41
sybesisok03:41
evilhLeeJunFan: ill take one of those Core Duo macs if you win lol :)03:43
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endo602anyone here know of a microsoft onenote alternative for kde?03:43
jarr3dthank you03:43
jarr3dwhich one do i download?03:44
HobbseeLeeJunFan: sounds good03:45
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evilhjarr3d: don't know i just googled it and found that site. sorry03:45
jarr3dok03:45
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endo602is there anything like microsoft onenote for kde.  or any note taking programs (for lectures) for kde?03:46
Hobbseejarr3d: you're on an i386 machine?03:46
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LeeJunFanokay, I saved the /who list so I can make good on that :)03:46
Hobbseeendo602: um, yes there are....basket is quite good03:46
Hobbseeand there's another one03:46
Hobbseehehe03:46
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endo602which?03:47
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Hobbseeendo602: kjots or basket03:47
endo602are they intense like onenote?03:47
jarr3dHobbsee? i dont know03:47
Hobbseedont know, only tried basket, and i've never tried one note03:47
Hobbseejarr3d: type uname -a in a terminal03:48
jarr3dI68603:48
Hobbseeok03:48
endo602the description doesnt sound anything like you just described03:48
evilhjarr3d: that site i gave you is down so you'll have to hunt down a mirror03:49
jarr3di noticed03:49
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evilhjarr3d: sorry was supposed to be up this week should have checked first03:49
Hobbseejarr3d: grabbing the one you need...03:50
jarr3dk03:50
Hobbseenah, just navigate the ftp site..03:50
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Hobbseeftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule_2.1.0-1_i386.deb03:51
Hobbseeftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule-daemon_2.1.0-1_i386.deb03:51
Hobbseeftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule-common_2.1.0-1_i386.deb03:51
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Hobbseeftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/ is where you can see it all03:51
jarr3dThe utility ar is not in your PATH.03:53
jarr3dPlease install it or contact your system administrator.03:53
jarr3dthats what it says twhen i try and run it03:53
Hobbseewhy do you need ar?03:54
jarr3di dont know? WHEN I CLICK IT THAT HAPPENS03:54
jarr3doops03:54
jarr3dsorrys caps03:54
endo602how do  i disable the caps lock key for good?03:54
HeavyDc223pliers03:56
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Hobbseeah, use wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule_2.1.0-1_i386.deb03:56
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Hobbseeand stick wget in front of all the other links03:57
neoncodeHey I just noticed. In kopete the names of my contacts had dissipered but since I updated to KDE 3.5.1 they came back... has that bug been fixed?03:57
Hobbseeneoncode: say what?03:57
jarr3di need em all?03:58
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HeavyDc223anyone in here gotten a modem to work in kubuntu?04:00
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neoncodeHobbsee: Their seemed to be a bug in my kopete when I had KDE 3.5.0 - as in it did not display the names of my contacts. But since I upgraded to KDE 3.5.1 it now shows them again.04:00
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Sybesisheya04:00
Hobbseehmm04:00
Hobbseehi Sybesis04:00
HeavyDc223wb04:00
SybesisStrangely ra0 turned to wlan004:00
Hobbseehehe04:01
Sybesisits may be because of the trick i did for the startup that load ndiswrapper04:01
Sybesisanyway... i get my wifi scanning the air. It detect my router04:01
Hobbseecould be, i'm not sure why04:01
Hobbseeoh well04:01
Hobbseeyep, and?04:01
Sybesisbut it dont go on internet lol04:02
Sybesiseverything look to work fine but internet dont work04:02
HeavyDc223can u ping?04:02
Sybesisnope04:02
Sybesisactually i can just ping 127.0.0.104:03
HeavyDc223may be your router04:03
Sybesisarr it worked with fedora4 so it should work ?04:03
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s4nthi04:03
evilhhi04:04
Sybesiswhy the router could detect fedora4 and not kubuntu04:04
HeavyDc223that doesnt mean anything, my modem worked with RH from 9 on04:04
HeavyDc223kubuntu has no networking capacity04:05
HeavyDc223as far as I can tell04:05
Sybesisi installed ndiswrapper the same i used on fedora04:05
HeavyDc223if its an rpm, alien may have messed something up04:06
Sybesisanyway if i can detect the routeur with my computer why would it not connect to internet04:07
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Sybesisno it isnt an rpm04:08
robotgeekSybesis: what wireless card is it?04:08
Sybesiswmp54g04:08
Sybesislinksys04:08
Sybesisrt2500 for the drivers04:09
robotgeekSybesis: why do you need ndiswrapper, the drivers should already be there in the kernel04:09
Sybesisseriously?04:09
Sybesiswhere04:10
robotgeekSybesis: yes, and that's why you have it as ra004:10
robotgeeksudo modprobe rt2500 (are u on breezy?)04:10
Sybesisyup04:10
Sybesisso if i uninstall ndiswrapper it should work by doing this thing04:11
robotgeekSybesis: yes, and since i use the same card, i can help you :)04:11
Sybesisah well cool :P04:12
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Sybesisi'll be right back04:13
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there04:40
robotgeekhi Tallia1Kubuntu04:40
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Tallia1Kubuntui use mplayer to play my video, but sometimes some short clips are reproduced not continuosly04:40
robotgeekno clue04:41
Tallia1Kubuntuwhile with big movies i have no problems04:41
Tallia1Kubuntuhave you ever used it?04:41
Tallia1Kubuntucan you check whilch video output do you use?04:42
Tallia1Kubuntui use XV since it allows fullscreen..04:42
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: x11 doesn't?04:42
Tallia1Kubuntulet me try04:42
Tallia1Kubuntutnx04:42
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: try to have zoom = yes and see if works04:43
Tallia1Kubuntux11 seems to be a little better but i am not sure04:43
robotgeekhmm, okay04:44
Tallia1Kubuntuwhere i set that zoom property?04:44
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, i think04:45
Tallia1Kubuntuthe audio has the same problem04:45
Tallia1Kubuntucouldn't that be an audio problem?04:45
Tallia1Kubuntuyes04:45
Tallia1Kubuntui just tried nosound and that was the problem04:46
Tallia1Kubuntuso, let me change the question.. which audio plugin do you use?04:46
robotgeekhmm, i am not sure Tallia1Kubuntu , i don't use it that much04:46
Tallia1Kubuntuit was the audio, i am telling you ^__^04:46
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sybesiswell back04:46
robotgeekhmm, sybesis tell me04:47
Hobbseehi again sybesis04:48
Hobbseehow'd it go?04:48
sybesisit seem to detect the card04:48
sybesisbut it dont scan anything04:48
sybesisso i assume i have something to configure04:48
robotgeeksybesis: sudo iwlist scan ra004:48
sybesisra0:no result04:48
sybesisthe frequency is at 2.47 ghz i think or something like that04:49
robotgeeksorry, it's sudo iwlist ra0 scan04:49
sybesisra0: no result thats what i get04:50
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sybesis"ra0: no result"04:51
robotgeeksybesis: hmm, one sec04:51
Hobbseeand it's definetly coming up as ra0?04:53
robotgeeksybesis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT250004:53
sybesisyes because i uninstalled ndiswrapper04:54
robotgeekyeah, type iwconfig04:54
robotgeek"iwconfig"04:54
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robotgeekyou will see if ra0 is up?04:54
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sybesiswhen i type that there is something about my card but it dont show access point and things i saw with wlan004:56
sybesisis that normal that some of the thing are missing04:56
robotgeeksybesis: yes.04:56
robotgeekis your ethernet card up?04:56
sybesisit should not be up as i dont use eth004:57
sybesisi'm too far from the router to use cable so thats why i use wifi04:58
robotgeeksybesis: okay, let me upload you a nice script from which you can try04:58
sybesisok04:58
robotgeeksybesis: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/wireless.sh05:02
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SoBeIcedTi just installed kubuntu and i cant su to root05:02
SoBeIcedTi never set a password for it05:02
robotgeekubotu: tell SoBeIcedT about sudo05:02
SoBeIcedTlol, i guess you get that one alot then05:03
SoBeIcedTthanks05:03
B1zzhow do i change read and write permisions to a drive, for a normal user?05:03
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Hobbsee_awayB1zz: man chmod05:03
sybesisok well robotgeek i'll be right back05:04
robotgeekB1zz: also right clicking works05:04
sybesisif all work i'll be back on kubuntu :P05:04
robotgeekhowever, you need a root konqueror05:04
B1zzuhh but i am not root, so it will not let me05:04
robotgeeksybesis: make sure05:04
B1zzhehe yeah05:04
robotgeekthat you change the essid and wep (if you have one set)05:05
evilhis KDE a system resource hog?05:09
LeeJunFanevilh: define resource hog? if you run it on a machine with less than 256M of ram and a 233MHZ processor I guess yeah.05:10
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evilhwell im running it on a 2.7ghz celeron with a gig of pc270005:10
evilhand cpu usage sits at 40% at idle05:10
LeeJunFanevilh: there are plenty of things to turn off (eye candy wize) to tone down it's hogginess.05:10
LeeJunFanevilh: do you know what process is using CPU?05:11
evilhno05:11
LeeJunFanevilh: run top in shell05:11
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evilhxorg05:12
LeeJunFanevilh: likely some application is writing to the desktop regularly causing that, are you running any apps that have constant changes to display? like superkaramba or something?05:13
evilhno05:13
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evilhall i usually have running is firefox, gaim and konverastion05:14
josecan someone help me? i can't uninstall a broken deb package.05:14
robotgeekjose: what's broken, and what did you do?05:14
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evilhLeeJunFan: how accurate is Ksys Guard at reporting resource usage05:15
evilhLeeJunFan: cause what top is reporting and what KsysGuard was reporting are radically different05:15
josei tried to install drivers for my video card, but the installation didn't work, besides i can't uninstall them05:15
LeeJunFanevilh: I dunno, don't use it myself. does firefox have any pages loaded with active animations or flash?05:15
evilhnope. i have it set to start with a blank page but it still takes a good 20 seconds to almost a minute to load05:16
dr_wuevilh- any cron jobs running? that could do it too..05:16
evilhdr_wu: i dont even know what those are so I would assume no05:16
joserobotgeek, it says the package is in a bad state or inconsistent. you must reinstall it before trying to uninstall it.05:17
robotgeekjose: did dpkg fail or something while installing?05:18
joseyes05:18
robotgeekjose: then "sudo dpkg --remove <pakage>"05:18
josesame problem05:19
LeeJunFanevilh: top is going to be your more accurate mesure of resource use.05:19
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evilhLeeJunFan: thats good cause I am liking the numbers its reporting. they seem more accurate to me05:20
joserobotgeek, i'm still getting the same problem05:20
SoBeIcedTi just installed kubuntu and want to get kdevelop, i tried "apt-get install kdevelop" and i get a package not found error, tried googling but cant find what im doing wrong05:20
LeeJunFanevilh: xorg is using about 8% cpu on my system with a amd 3400 1G ram. My cpu is running only at 800mhz now too.05:20
robotgeekhmm, jose i am lost05:20
jose...05:21
josebesides, that doesn't let me install anything else from apt-get or adept or kpackage05:21
evilhLeeJunFan: that is about what mine is running at. is KDE just a slow UI. seems like things should load and start a lot quicker than they do05:21
joseanyone else? please05:21
SoBeIcedTanyone have any idea waht im ding wrong, i just installed kubuntu, moved from gentoo05:22
LeeJunFanevilh: well it's a full feature environment, more features == it's got more to load. It's a trade off, but one normally well worth it on a desktop system.05:22
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joseSoBeIcedT, i believe you have to edit sources.list05:23
SoBeIcedThmm okay05:23
SoBeIcedTwhere would i find taht file05:23
evilhLeeJunFan: i'm on a laptop so thats probably not helping.05:23
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josesudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:24
LeeJunFanevilh: so am I but one thing that WILL make a big difference is your HD speed, I payed extra money and got the 7200 RPM drive most laptops are 4600 or 5200RPM.05:24
robotgeek!kdesu05:24
ubotukdesu is, like, totally, :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "05:24
SoBeIcedTok05:25
evilh*evilh smacks head05:25
evilhLeeJunFan: im retarded. i forgot that DMA isn't on by default05:25
LeeJunFanevilh: open a shell and run 'sudo hdparm /dev/hda' and make sure DMA is on.05:25
LeeJunFanheheh05:25
SoBeIcedTwhat is the univers repository05:25
LeeJunFanevilh: and IO support should be 32 bit of some sort too.05:26
LeeJunFanevilh: usually ubuntu turns on DMA by default.05:26
LeeJunFanI didn't have to tweak mine at all.05:26
josedeb http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:26
josedeb-src http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:26
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evilhLeeJunFan: DMA was off. how do I set it to always be on05:26
LeeJunFan!dma05:27
evilhand how do i change IO to 3205:27
joseSoBeIcedT, maybe you just have to uncomment those lines05:27
LeeJunFandammit that didn't come to channel05:27
SoBeIcedTi did05:27
hatake_kakashievilh: man hdparm05:27
SoBeIcedThere is what i get05:27
hatake_kakashiubotu is here05:27
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi05:27
hatake_kakashi!dma05:28
hatake_kakashilol05:28
hatake_kakashi!about hdparm05:28
ubotuhatake_kakashi: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:28
SoBeIcedTpackage kdevelop unavailable but is referred to by another package05:28
evilhtheres ubotu05:28
LeeJunFanhatake_kakashi: I msg'ed it so ubotu told him.05:28
hatake_kakashiLeeJunFan: ahh ok05:28
SoBeIcedTapt-get kdesdk05:29
SoBeIcedTtahts what i need05:29
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SoBeIcedTit asks me to put the dvd back in when  i do that05:29
SoBeIcedTis there a way it would download from the net?05:30
Bicchidoes anyone experiences a lot of window drag when moving windows around the screen? I have an ATI Radeon 9800 w/ 128MB05:31
josewell, i really wouldn't know05:31
josei actually a newbie. try searching for repos on the web05:32
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robotgeekjose: you can also try asking in #ubuntu about your problem05:32
SoBeIcedTi got it i think, had to comment out the line at the top of sources.list that had the cd liste05:32
SoBeIcedTd05:32
LeeJunFanBicchi: not here, same setup.05:33
LeeJunFanBicchi: you using any of the kde "special" composite crap like transparency and stuff?05:33
BicchiLeeJunFan: Could it be because i have a dual monitor05:34
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LeeJunFanBicchi: maybe, I've never done dual monitor myself.05:34
BicchiLeeJunFan: nope. i am not even using the restricted drivers05:34
egibbsrosemary: thanks05:34
LeeJunFanBicchi: yeah, me either. Perhaps they would help out with dual monitors though.05:35
BicchiLeeJunFan: so your windows refresh at a good speed and you do not see any drag. like a trail of windows falling behind.05:35
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sybesisheya lol05:41
Hobbseeheya again sybesis05:42
Hobbseeany more luck?05:42
sybesisrobotgeek thx for your script... i made some modification to it as i dont have eth1 and now it connect to the router without ndiswrapper05:42
sybesisbut i end at the same result no internet connection hahaha05:42
robotgeeksybesis: are you able to ping your router?05:43
sybesisit may be something to configure with the proxy?05:43
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sybesisnop05:43
evilhi try to do sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf and it doesnt work05:43
sybesisi'm scanning his mac address05:43
sybesisi connect to his mac address but i cant ping it05:43
sybesisthats pretty weird05:43
sybesisas i know the router's ip is 192.168.0.105:44
hatake_kakashiwtf, connecting to mac address? you meant ip address? :P05:44
sybesisi scan his mac address sorry05:45
sybesisso if my computer can find the mac address of the router there is probably a link somewhere?05:45
hatake_kakashiit finds it via ARP, and the router has a arp table05:46
Hobbseesybesis: do you get an IP address at all?05:46
hatake_kakashis/a/an05:46
sybesisno05:46
Hobbseetried sudo dhclient awhatsit0?05:46
sybesiswas it in the script?05:47
Hobbseenot sure - i didnt see it05:47
robotgeekHobbsee: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/wireless.sh05:47
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sybesisit seem to not be there05:48
hatake_kakashisybesis: check to see if the router has dhcpd running and configured05:48
sybesishow do i do that05:48
Hobbseeah yeah, it does05:48
hatake_kakashisybesis: setup static IP and point the gateway to the router05:49
hatake_kakashiifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip && route add default gw ip.ip.ip.ip05:49
sybesisThe DI-524 can be setup as a DHCP Server to distribute IP addresses to the LAN network.05:49
sybesisthat05:49
hatake_kakashiyes05:49
robotgeeksybesis: i also have the identifcal router :)05:49
sybesislol05:50
sybesisit came with a dwl g12205:50
robotgeeksybesis: is yours a Belkin card by any chance, lol05:50
hatake_kakashiI have DI-704P :p05:50
sybesisnop linksys05:50
sybesisso the command that hobbsee said is asking for Ip?05:51
hatake_kakashiyes, dhclient eth005:51
Hobbseesudo dhclient?  yeah05:51
sybesisk cool i'll try that05:52
sybesisbrb05:52
hatake_kakashiany of you got 704P?05:53
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sybesisit dont work :(06:30
sybesisanyway i need to sleep.06:30
edward0I have amarok working again with arts :)06:31
sybesisi'll be there tomorow. so then good night guys ant thx robotgeek and Hobbsee06:32
sybesiscya later guys06:32
edward0bye06:32
Hobbseecya sybesis06:32
edward0bye06:32
robotgeeksybesis: later06:33
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robotgeekHobbsee: do you know if firefox is installed by default on dapper kubuntu?06:35
Hobbseerobotgeek: it's not06:36
robotgeekhm, i did not realise kkathman asked you :)06:36
kkathmanI did robotgeek06:37
kkathmanjust trying all the resources I can06:37
kkathmandidnt want to bug everyone..06:37
robotgeeksame here :)06:37
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rosemarywhat do people use to upload photos?  Camera is recognised but can';t figure out how upload the photos06:52
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Tallia1Kubuntuhola07:56
skynetAdminhello07:57
rich0rdhoi07:58
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i play a *.mov file in linux?08:01
Tallia1Kubuntumplayer seems to reject it08:01
viviersferm08:01
Tallia1Kubuntu?08:01
viviersfTallia1Kubuntu, install quicktime08:01
Tallia1Kubuntuwow! there's quicktime?08:01
Tallia1Kubuntuis there*08:01
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viviersfyar08:02
Tallia1Kubuntuok08:02
Tallia1Kubuntui will.. :) tnx08:02
viviersfor quicktime codecs08:02
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viviersfthere is realplayer aswell just incase you wanna play .rm files08:03
jockothere is no official quicktime player for linux08:03
jockobut mplayer plays quicktime08:03
viviersfjocko,08:03
viviersfIF08:03
viviersfyou install quicktime codecs08:04
jockoyes08:04
Tallia1Kubuntujocko: i tried.. but i can't play it08:04
Tallia1Kubuntuquicktime codecs?08:05
jockodo you have w32codecs installed08:05
viviersfdo you have w32codecs installed ?08:05
Tallia1Kubuntui think so08:06
Tallia1Kubuntui copied some dll long time ago.. and i can play basically whatever i want till now08:06
Tallia1Kubuntuviviersf: is that what you mean?08:11
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viviersfTallia1Kubuntu,08:13
viviersfadd mutliverse to your repositories08:13
viviersfand install w32codecs08:14
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progresohi all... can anyone please help me i cant mount my floppy disk08:19
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staqeni have a caricature picture of allah: is there any way to encrypt it and save it on a cd?08:26
staqensimple way, that is08:26
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rich0rdi think what you talk off is mohammed  - the prophet of allah08:28
staqenrich0rd: mahomet is almost worhipped, too, so... whatever :)08:28
rich0rdand i don't think the kind of picture matters, just ask how to encrypt an image08:28
staqenbut... is there an easy way to do it?08:28
rich0rdyou could write your own xor encryption08:29
rich0rdzip it with a password ...08:29
staqenrich0rd: i already asked that and they told me hiding pirated material is off-topic08:29
rich0rdthere are a lot of ways08:29
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GullyFoylehow do i uninstall this half-baked GNU gij and install a real JVM?08:35
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robitailleGullyFoyle,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:40
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Pulchihello, do I need drivers to get everything to work in kubuntu? and do I need to have FAT32 or can I go with NTFS?08:47
rich0rddrivers are kernel modules08:49
rich0rdfat32 will work better, but i do not know the state of the art with the NTFS drivers08:49
rich0rdto install kubuntu use a linux file system08:49
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rich0rdif you want to exchange data between a linux and a windows installation try fat32 or a linux fs - because there are drivers for windows for some of them08:50
jarr3dhi, whats the command to check how much memorey i have08:50
jarr3dmemory08:50
jarr3danyone?08:52
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jarr3dhi, whats the command to check how much memory i have08:54
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jockojarr try top09:02
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jarr3dtop?09:03
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Tallia1KubuntuSOMEONE can tell andrea about multivers reps?09:12
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jocko!multiverse09:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:12
Tallia1Kubuntu!eheh09:14
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu09:14
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Tallia1KubuntuDapper is the new one?09:14
Tallia1Kubuntu!Dapper09:14
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.09:14
Tallia1Kubuntu:)09:15
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praveenhello09:16
praveenhelp'09:16
praveenhelp09:16
Tallia1Kubuntu??09:16
praveenhello i am new to IRC09:16
praveenplz bear with me09:16
praveen:D09:16
Tallia1Kubuntustart writing less lines :)09:17
praveeni have primarily come here to get some problems solved ;)09:17
praveenthe basic thing being sound not played09:17
praveendoes anyone here think they can help me?09:18
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praveenplz09:18
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat kind of release are you using?09:18
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat kind of driver?09:18
praveenkubuntu 5.1009:18
praveenkmix09:18
Tallia1Kubuntu??09:18
praveenno sound whatsoever09:18
Tallia1Kubuntui mean oss alsa09:18
Tallia1Kubuntuand so on09:18
praveenalso09:18
praveenalsa09:19
Tallia1Kubuntuok, try to change it09:19
Tallia1Kubuntuand restart the sound server09:19
Tallia1Kubuntueverything can be done from kcontrol09:19
praveenhow? i am n00b :D09:19
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Tallia1Kubuntukcontrol is for noob09:19
Tallia1Kubuntuunder the multimedia09:19
praveenok09:19
Tallia1KubuntuKcontrol -> sound and multimedia -> hardware09:20
praveenam there09:20
Tallia1Kubuntui don't know why but i have to leave autodetect otherwise it doesn't work09:20
praveenok09:20
Tallia1Kubuntutry to change the device09:20
Tallia1Kubuntuand apply09:20
Tallia1Kubuntuyou can test if the sound work in the other tab09:20
praveentrying OSS09:21
praveennopes shows error09:21
Tallia1Kubuntuviviersf: i alredy have those multiverse entries but i have no w32codes as far as i see09:21
Tallia1Kubuntuhave you try all the errors?09:22
Tallia1Kubuntudevices?09:22
praveenXMMS says that plz check if soundcard is properly configured09:22
praveeni tried XMMS09:22
Tallia1Kubuntutry something else?09:23
viviersfTallia1Kubuntu, hold09:23
praveenkaffeine also says the same09:23
Tallia1Kubuntutry noatun09:23
Tallia1Kubuntuor mplayer09:23
Tallia1Kubuntupraveen: have you tried with autodetect?09:24
praveenit was already in autodetect09:24
praveeni already have a thread running at ubuntu and kubuntu forums09:24
praveenbut none cud help me09:24
praveeni tried to upgrade kmix but the package is broken :(09:25
Tallia1Kubuntu?09:25
Tallia1Kubuntuthat's weird09:25
praveeni upgraded all kde packages to 3.5.109:25
Tallia1Kubuntume too09:25
Tallia1Kubuntuhave you got a laptop?09:26
praveennopes09:26
praveenthe sound actually worked well until a XMMS crash a few weeks back09:27
praveenand since then i am without any kind of sound on kubuntu09:27
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praveenTallialKubuntu: if u dont mind i will set up a VNC for you, cud u plz try?09:29
viviersfTallia1Kubuntu : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb09:30
viviersfdownload and install that09:30
Tallia1Kubuntutnx09:30
viviersfthen you can play almost any file09:30
Tallia1Kubuntudo you know something for windows too? my girl can't play correctly some movies09:30
praveenTallialKubuntu : u want to try to set right my linux through krdc?09:31
viviersfTallia1Kubuntu, get vlc player for doze09:32
praveenplz09:32
Tallia1Kubuntupraveen:09:32
Tallia1Kubuntupraveen: ok, but i can't assure you nothing09:32
morrowmorning09:32
praveenviviersf: plz help me out with the audio problem i have been discussing with TallialKubtuntu09:32
morrowis there a fix for the memleak in gam_server?09:32
praveenok all the best09:32
morrowfound my laptop this morning with 3gb of memory used :/09:33
Tallia1Kubuntuwow09:33
jockomorrow you could use fam instead09:33
jockoit will uninstall gam09:33
praveenTallialKubuntu : plz connect to 59.92.53.13709:33
praveenthat is my ip09:33
praveen59.92.53.137:009:35
praveenpwd09:35
praveenb8gd-B9z09:35
morrowjocko: hmm sounds good..09:35
praveenTallialKubuntu: plz try09:35
jockomorrow fam should be in the repos09:35
morrow0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 262 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:35
morrowHmmm ... sure that the depencies are correct?09:36
morrow(kde 3.5.1 btw)09:36
Tallia1Kubuntupraveen: The connection to the host has been interrupted09:36
praveenone sec09:36
jockogam is called gamin09:37
praveenaccepted09:37
jockoin the repos09:37
praveenwat happened?09:37
jockoif you install fam you should uninstall gamin09:37
jockoi thought it uninstalled it by itself09:37
morrowjocko: it uninstalls gamin with all the depending kde packages09:37
Tallia1KubuntuAuthentication failed. Connection aborted.09:37
jockohey you are right morrow09:37
jockosry i should have checkeed09:38
morrownp :)09:38
praveenone last try plz09:38
jockoin debian you could do it09:38
viviersfpraveen, which audio problem do you have ?09:38
jockoi guess ubuntu ties it to kde09:38
praveencant play any audio09:38
morrowdapper seems not to have this problem (yet?)09:38
Tallia1Kubuntupraveen: if you don't put my name before i can't see your messages09:38
morrowbut i guess the dapper gamin won't run in breezy09:38
praveenTallialKubuntu: oops sorry09:38
viviersfpraveen, what soundcard do you have ?09:38
praveenviviersf: its default from intel 865gbf board09:39
praveentallialkubuntu: pl try again09:39
praveenone last try09:39
viviersfpraveen, :/09:39
viviersfpraveen, it a pII , pIII or PIV /09:39
viviersf?09:39
Tallia1Kubuntuok09:39
praveenviviersf, it is p409:40
viviersfk09:40
jockomorrow http://spilog.org/archives/2005/12/07/gam_server-on-ubuntu/09:40
jockohe says dapper gamin installs in breezy09:40
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praveentallialkubuntu, wat seems to be the problem?09:40
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morrowjocko: thx, will give it a try09:41
Tallia1Kubuntuboh09:41
Tallia1Kubuntuno idead09:41
praveentallialkubuntu, 59.92.53.137:009:41
praveentallialkubuntu, pwd is RgBd-sVm09:42
praveentallialkubuntu, can u do it?09:43
Tallia1KubuntuRgBd-sVm09:43
praveenyeah09:43
Tallia1KubuntuConnection failed. The server does not accept new connections.09:43
praveensomeone seem to have connected already :/09:43
morrowwell it realy installs without any errors. :)09:43
Tallia1Kubuntusome idiot that think to be an hacker09:43
praveenhe has left, tallialkubuntu09:44
praveenplz come now09:44
praveentallialkubuntu plz come now09:44
praveentallialkubuntu, u ccan come now09:46
praveenkcontrol is open for you minimised09:46
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Tallia1KubuntuAuthentication failed. Connection aborted.09:48
Tallia1Kubuntustop no more try09:48
praveenhow come09:48
Tallia1Kubuntubecause i am bored09:48
praveenok thanks anyway for all ouur time09:48
praveen:D09:48
Tallia1Kubuntuok09:48
Tallia1Kubuntu:)09:48
praveenok bye for now09:48
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MelsenWhat the heck is a .skz file?09:54
jpatrickMelsen: superkaramba theme file09:55
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Melsenjpatrick: Yeah? When I go to the dir with those files in it with SuperKaramba.. it's doesn't lists them as theme files09:58
MelsenHow do I use them?09:58
jpatrickMelsen: open them from within SuperKarmaba09:59
MelsenThats what Im doing09:59
jpatrickMelsen: do you have KDE 3.5?09:59
Tallia1KubuntuMelsen: i am skitzed!!09:59
Melsenbut it doesn't lists them when I go to the dir.. even though it searches for themes09:59
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MelsenI run the latest version of Kubuntu09:59
Melsenso yes jpatrick10:00
jpatricklastest has 3.4.3....10:00
MelsenDidn't it say 3.5.1?10:00
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Melsenuhmm10:00
jpatrickHelp -> About KDE10:00
MelsenOh damn10:01
MelsenYour right10:01
Melsen3.4.310:01
MelsenCan I update to 3.5 through adept?10:01
jpatrickyes10:01
jpatrickhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php10:01
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MelsenWill I get it if I just chose 'Full Upgrade' inside Adept?10:06
Akurin /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER10:06
jpatrickMelsen: yep :)10:06
Melsenyay10:06
jpatrickbe happy10:06
MelsenI am =)10:06
MelsenAdept rules10:06
MelsenProbably healthy to do a full upgrade occasionally anyways10:07
jpatrickdevelopment verison is better :)10:07
Melsenwhat do you mean?10:07
Melsen<- completely linux desktop newbie10:07
jpatrickit's development version is better10:07
jpatrick<- kubuntu dev10:07
MelsenAre you a kubuntu developer?10:07
jpatrickyes10:08
MelsenWell, by all means.... let me congratulate you on what I believe is the best dist available10:08
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jpatrickI only make packages and other thingys10:08
MelsenI've tried debian, suse, redhat, knoppix..... tried gentoo too, but gave up on it10:08
MelsenBut Kubuntu... now that freakin rocks10:08
jpatrickI tried Gentoo it failed on install10:09
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dr_zaius--hey!10:09
jpatrickhello dr_zaius--10:10
dr_zaius--need some help with kubuntu intallation10:10
jpatrickwhat's the problem?10:10
dr_zaius--I have a 172 panoramic screen laptop10:10
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dr_zaius--and X is not starting10:10
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dr_zaius--sorry 17"10:10
jpatrickdr_zaius--: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:10
Akurinthat's better10:10
Akurinhello all10:11
dr_zaius--is it a config script?10:11
jpatrickdr_zaius--: yes10:11
dr_zaius--or should i change smth in the .conf file?10:11
jpatrickAkurin: hi10:11
Akurinim umm thinking about swithing over to Linux10:11
Akurinbut from OS X10:11
Akurini tried to DL the Live version of kubuntu10:12
Akurinbut i can't seem to figure out how to install it :P10:12
dr_zaius--ok, thank you very much jpatrick10:12
dr_zaius--i'll try and let u know ;D10:12
jpatrickAkurin: you can't from the Live verison (yet....)10:12
jpatrickdr_zaius--: no problemo10:12
Akurin:(10:13
Akurinwell then10:13
jpatrickAkurin: download the install one10:13
Akurinhow do i get to use Kubuntu without changing my comp?10:13
jockoyou have to download the install cd10:14
Akurinso the one i just downloaded is just waste now?10:14
jpatrickAkurin: no, you could use it10:14
Akurinhow then?10:14
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jockoyou can use it, just not installed to your harddrive10:15
jpatrickAkurin: this is for Hoary but you could try: http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/02/installing-ubuntu-hoary-from-livecd/10:16
Akurinso i gotta burn an install disc with the .iso file? is that it?10:16
Akurini don't even know what hoary is :P10:17
jpatrickpervious verison of Kubuntu10:17
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Melsenjpatrick: HEEELP!10:17
jpatrickMelsen: I'm here10:18
MelsenI think eeeeverything broke down now10:18
jpatrickwhy?10:18
MelsenDuring the full upgrade... dpkg suddenly came with a whole bunch of errors10:18
Akurinc i can't understand most of what that page said10:18
Melsenand said that it halted because of too many errors10:18
jpatrick"sudo apt-get install -f"10:18
MelsenI cant10:18
jpatrick:/10:18
MelsenI tried closing my applications10:19
Melsenand then other errors came10:19
jpatricksuch as?10:19
MelsenThen I figured... "Thats odd... I think I'll reboot the system".. so I chose to log off and restart10:19
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MelsenAnd now when I try to boot, Grub just says 'GRUB loading, please wait...'10:19
Melsenand then writes ERROR 1810:19
Melsenand nothing else happens10:19
jpatrickoh dear10:19
Melsenso now I can't boot up anymore10:19
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Melsen.. what do I do now?10:21
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jpatricknot sure10:21
Akurinok i think im just gonna burn the .iso file unto a CD10:22
jpatrickreinstall or if you have a live CD you could try a chroot10:22
Melsenalright10:22
jpatrickAkurin: what .iso?10:22
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robotgeekMelsen: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-122656.html10:24
Akurinthe umm liveCD  .iso file10:24
robotgeekgrub error codes, and what they mean10:24
Boruthello10:24
Akurinfrom here10:24
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Akurinw8 can i link?10:24
jpatrickAkurin: that won't install it10:24
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Akurinno i don't wanna install10:25
Akurini guess i had worded my question wrong from the beginning10:25
Akurinok10:25
Akurinthis is what i did10:25
Akurindownloaded the .iso file10:25
Akurin(It's the Live CD one)10:26
Akurinthen it mounted itself10:26
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AkurinSO i thought i could check it out from that10:26
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Akurinbut stupid me just realized that i have to burn it first10:26
Akurinso that's what im doing10:26
Akurinusing Disk Utility10:26
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Akurink?10:27
jpatrickyeah, burn it10:27
Akurincuz i wanna know what im getting into IF i decide to leave OSX and go and be friends with the penguin10:28
robotgeekAkurin: dapper is going to be sooo awesmoe10:28
Akurinwhat is?10:29
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Akurindapper?10:29
robotgeek!dapper10:29
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.10:29
Akurino10:30
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Akurini c, i c10:30
robotgeekAkurin: do u have a laptop, or a emac?10:30
AkuriniBook10:31
jpatrickAkurin: Dapper will be able to install from the live10:31
robotgeekjpatrick: even the flight cd's?10:31
jpatrickrobotgeek: F4944AEE10:31
jpatrickI mean: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/178910:31
Akurinso NOW what to I do with this CD i just burned?10:32
jpatrickAkurin: boot with it10:32
Akurin...10:32
Akurinooo10:32
jpatrickreboot with the CD inside10:32
Akurinyea gotcha10:32
Akurink then10:32
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jpatrickrobotgeek: eh?10:40
robotgeekannoying away messages10:40
jpatrickI see10:41
Tm_Tok10:41
Tm_Tpublic aways are always annoying10:41
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jpatrickwell he's away so he won't notice10:43
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robotgeeki need to correct my aliases in irssi, it doesn't give the message. *sigh*10:43
Tm_Theh10:46
visik7how can I load libraries at boot time instead of when I run an app that require a lib ? just the common used lib like qt kdelibs and some other10:49
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Tallia1Kubuntuplease11:02
Tallia1Kubuntusave my night11:02
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i play a dvd on linux?11:02
Tallia1Kubuntui never did it11:02
Tallia1Kubuntua movie dvd11:02
Tallia1Kubuntuis it possible with mplayer?11:02
jpatrick!dvd11:02
uboturumour has it, dvd is DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:02
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Tallia1Kubuntucan't install it :(11:06
Tallia1Kubuntubut i have no time..11:06
Tallia1Kubuntusee ya11:06
jpatrick!info libdvdcss211:06
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Tallia1Kubuntueheh11:08
Tallia1Kubuntu!info libdvdcss211:08
Tallia1Kubuntu!dvd11:10
ubotudvd is, like, DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:10
goliathlu all11:10
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goliathkelk'un pourrai m'aid, je viens d'intall kubuntu sur mon portable, et j'ai le son ki marche pa ! :(11:11
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Tallia1Kubuntujpatrick: ok i installed it11:16
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat now?11:16
jpatrickTallia1Kubuntu: try playing it11:16
Tallia1Kubuntuwith what?11:16
Tallia1Kubuntuwhich program do i have to use?11:17
jpatrickKaffeine, mplayer...11:18
Tallia1Kubuntuhow to use mplayer?11:18
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jpatrickTallia1Kubuntu: no idea11:18
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eXistenZI downloaded xemacs, but it wasn't added to the menu, how can I fix this?11:21
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marscd ./libresample && autoconf && sh ./configure && make11:23
marsHi i am new in linux and during make of my game it says11:23
marswhat i pasted uper11:23
marswhat schould i do?11:24
marsi entered ./libresample11:24
marsBut what then?11:24
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zizaexcuse me, is there an experienced Opera user present here?11:26
marswhat is wrong with your Opera?11:27
zizai'd like to ask whether one mandatorily needs a premium account to search in the bugs archive of Opera?11:27
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zizabugs.opera.com shows the bug tracking system of Opera11:29
zizaclicking on "If you don't have a bug system account, click here." doesn't really show you a sign up page...11:29
marscan someone help me with my problem?11:30
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marscd ./libresample && autoconf && sh ./configure && make11:31
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marswhat schoul i do?11:31
marsautocont- what does it mean?11:31
zizamars: libresample? is this a library needed by your game?11:31
marsyes11:31
mars:] 11:31
marsduring make it sayss what i pasted11:32
zizawhat's the current working directory?11:32
zizamars, do you read me? :)11:34
marsstyes11:34
marsi entered libresample11:34
zizaok, try ./configure now11:35
marsbash: ./configure: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu11:35
marsmeans11:35
marsthere is npo file or directory11:35
marsno*11:36
zizahm11:36
zizawhat does ls show?11:36
marsconfig.guess  include      Makefile.in   src    xboxresample11:37
marsconfig.sub    install-sh   README.txt    tests11:37
marsconfigure.in  LICENSE.txt  resample.def  wi11:37
zizadoes autoconf do anything?11:38
marsi schould type autoconf ?11:38
zizayes11:39
marsmars@lunar:~/Gry/StepMania-3.9-src/src/libresample$ autoconf11:39
marsbash: autoconf: command not found11:39
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zizaso you don't have autoconf installed11:40
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marsis that some kind of program?11:40
zizayes, i think it's needed to generate a configure script11:41
zizacheck synaptic if it has a package called autoconf11:41
marsi am installing it from adept :] 11:42
zizaok, no problem :)11:42
zizait's true: autoconf - Generate configuration scripts (man page)11:42
marsok i made it and then configure and make11:45
marsi will see what next with game configure :] 11:45
marsomg i suppose it works :] 11:45
zizait's building?11:45
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zizacongrats :D11:46
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visik7how can I get new nvidia driver 817811:55
visik7?11:55
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jeroenvrpfolks12:18
jeroenvrpsomeone has a webpage where I can find step-by-step instructions to update from breezy to current dapper12:19
jeroenvrp?12:19
jeroenvrpI like to jump :-)12:19
farousubuntu> aio install build-essential12:20
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MitjaHow can I login in konsole as another user but not in KDE at the same time?12:20
jeroenvrpMitja: eh what you mean?12:21
jeroenvrpdo you mean opening a konsole and switching to another user in konsole?12:21
jeroenvrpif that is the case:12:21
Mitjajeroenvrp: yes12:21
jeroenvrpsu - username12:21
Mitjathanks12:21
jeroenvrpbasic linux knowledge12:21
Mitjajeroenvrp: yeah12:22
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jeroenvrpplease, can someone assist me a little bit with breezy to dapper transition12:38
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jeroenvrpI've changed in the sources.list everything from breezy to dapper12:38
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jeroenvrpcut out the backports and breezy specific repos12:38
jeroenvrpI did a apt-get update, all went fine12:39
Mezjeroenvrp, then sudo apt-get update12:39
Mezsudo apt-get upgrade12:39
Mezsudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:39
Mezsudo apt-get dselect-upgrade12:39
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marshow can i uninstall programm installegd from sources?12:40
Meznot from building a deb?12:40
marsno12:40
marsi installed game from sources and i want to uninstall it12:40
Mezerm - it differes from package to package12:40
Mezdo you still have the sources you installed from?12:41
marsyes12:42
marsi cant delete them12:42
Mezfrom there try a sudo make uninstall12:42
marsok12:44
marsworks12:44
Mez:D12:46
marsbut i still cant delete file where the is source12:46
Mezsudo rm -rf * (in the directory where the source is12:47
jeroenvrpsorry wason the phone12:47
jeroenvrpMez: have I do all the those apt-get commands?12:48
Mezyes - for a full upgrade12:49
jeroenvrpah12:49
jeroenvrpI did a apt-get dist-upgrade first12:49
jeroenvrpand it wanted to remove a bunch of packages12:49
jeroenvrpwithout updating12:49
jeroenvrpso now i did a  apt-get upgrade, and it dont want to remove anything12:50
Mezalways best to do an upgrade12:50
Mezdist-upgrade12:50
Mezdselect-upgrade12:50
jeroenvrpwhat the diff between those12:50
jeroenvrpor where can find a webpage discribing that12:50
bimberiapt-get's man page has good info12:51
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jeroenvrpthanks bimberi12:53
bimberijeroenvrp: yw :)12:53
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bimberii hadn't heard of dselect-upgrade and had a look :)12:54
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maltehi01:02
maltei've an extern usb hard-drive connected to my kubuntu install right now, but i'm not getting very good performance01:02
malteit's a usb 2.0 device01:03
maltei'm getting something like 1000 kB/sec with hdparm -t01:03
SkrotTry -T01:03
SkrotI get 1597MB/s cached and 22.22MB/s buffered on a laptop01:04
maltethat gives me 671.04 MB/sec01:04
malte"Timing buffered disk reads:    4 MB in  4.25 seconds = 963.00 kB/sec"01:05
maltei mean, usb 2.0 should be much faster shouldn't it?01:05
maltei know it's much faster on a windows machine01:05
SkrotThat's slow01:05
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Skrot Timing buffered disk reads:   68 MB in  3.06 seconds =  22.22 MB/sec01:05
SkrotAnd that's a laptop01:05
Skrot4200RPM01:05
malteoh, wait01:06
maltedmesg says "usb 4-1: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub"01:06
maltebut it's supposed to be a high speed port i connected it to01:06
Skrotah, the USB contact is probably USB 1?01:06
maltei don't think so :/01:06
SkrotTry sudo modprobe ehci_hcd01:07
maltebut i'm not sure how to verify that01:07
SkrotLaptop or workstation?01:07
malteworkstation01:07
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maltesame buffered read after modprobing01:08
Skrotokay01:08
SkrotLook up the manual for the motherboard01:08
SkrotOr try another USB plug and see if dmesg reports anything different01:08
LeeJunFanmalte: after you modprobe ehci you may have to remove and re-plug in your drive.01:08
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malte"Timing buffered disk reads:   64 MB in  3.08 seconds =  20.81 MB/sec" \o/01:09
maltewhat is ehci then? methinks it should be loaded automatically01:10
malteok, checked modinfo01:10
maltethanks guys! :)01:10
LeeJunFanmalte: to force it to load on boot add ehci_ucd to /etc/modules01:11
LeeJunFanehci_hcd that is.01:12
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Tonio_hi01:16
Melsenjpatrick: The installation wasn't able to be saved01:22
MelsenI have to reinstall the whole thing :(01:22
jpatrick:(01:22
MelsenI booted on a livecd, mounted the drive and wanted to reinstall grub01:22
Melsenbut when I tried to cd into the /boot dir, I got an input output error01:23
Melsenand even with fsck there wasn't anything I could do01:23
Melsenloads of errors01:23
jpatrickMelsen: did you chroot it?01:23
MelsenYeah01:23
MelsenI did chroot it01:23
jpatrickhmmm01:23
MelsenIm wondering why dpkg came with so many different errors when it tried to do that full upgrade01:23
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Melsenthere isn't anything with... you HAVE to be logged in as root or something to do it through adept?01:24
MelsenI should be able to do it with my regular user01:24
Melsencorrect?01:24
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jpatrickMelsen: I prefer apt-get01:24
Melsenso just sudo apt-get upgrade?01:25
Melsenwould that do the same?01:25
jpatricksudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:27
MelsenOhh01:27
MelsenI didn't know that command01:27
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hatake_kakashidist-upgrade upgrades literally everything01:28
MelsenSo if I do that, it will also upgrade the KDE3.4.3 to KDE3.5?01:28
jpatrickyes01:28
SkrotAnyone know if there are any severe memory leakage in any of the packages (X.org, KDE, etc) in dapper?01:28
Melsenawesome01:28
MelsenI think I'll try that instead then01:28
jpatrickMelsen: if you enabled the repo01:28
SkrotI mean. 722MB of memory used when I'm not running X.org or KDE/KDM is a little off?01:28
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Melsenjpatrick: When you say enabled the repo, you mean universe/multiverse, right?01:30
jpatrickMelsen: no01:30
Melsenoh?01:30
jpatrickhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php01:31
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farous#ubuntu01:33
staqenVMware Server Goes Free, but Not Open :))01:34
staqennice: "free", as some sort of antonym to "open"!01:35
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zizacan somebody answer me a question regarding user javascripts in Opera?01:37
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zizais it possible to access and manipulate local files with javascript functions?01:37
kameron... this is really weird guys.01:38
kameronthrere's an AC/DC song playing right now.. i am only running xchat. i can't figure out what's going on. i don't even have any AC/DC music.01:38
kameronlike, nothing remotely close either.01:38
hatake_kakashikameron: browser?01:39
kameronno dude.01:39
Hobbseetried checking in top for any weird programs?01:39
hatake_kakashior ps01:39
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kameroni checked ps, i'll try top.01:40
kamerontop is kinda confusing.01:40
kameronlike, how do i scroll down?01:40
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hatake_kakashitop is meant to show which app uses the most CPU, etc01:40
kameronbut how do i scroll down to see more processes?01:41
jpatrickkameron: do Ctrl+Esc01:41
kameronty01:42
zizano idea regarding my query?01:43
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kameronthis is weird man.01:43
hatake_kakashiziza: #java01:43
kameronand the song is "highway to hell"01:43
kameronyou know. just kinda terrifying, like jason with a chainsaw might pop in for a bloody visit.01:43
bobusehatake_kakashi: no please ! javascript != java01:44
zizaare you kidding?01:44
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zizabobuse: thanks :)01:44
hatake_kakashiwell I have no clue :p I don't do java for the time being01:44
hatake_kakashibut javascript *has* some resemblance to java :P01:45
bobuseziza : I hope that it isn't possile to "manipulate local files with javascript functions"01:45
zizai know that this should be restricted, and in fact it is01:45
hatake_kakashiand hence I don't even know if there is even a #javascript channel :P01:45
zizabut my question is whether i can do that in USER javascripts, this is a feature in Opera01:46
bobusehatake_kakashi: defintely not. And javascript doesn't exist anymore. talk about ECMAscript instead ;-)01:46
kameronmaybe a browser was playing something an dnow it's stuck.01:46
kameroni'll just kill X.01:46
hatake_kakashiziza: I don't use Opera01:46
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hatake_kakashibobuse: meh01:46
kameronoh man, i just killed X, logged in again.. IT'S STILL PLAYING01:47
hatake_kakashikameron: go init 3, kill X and see if there is still music, if not, go init 5 and then run X again01:47
kameronhatake_kakashi, ill give it a try.01:47
hatake_kakashikameron: and you should run an irc client on console, saves you from quitting and rejoining01:48
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kameronhatake_kakashi, didn't do anything man.01:51
redondosHi everyone. What can I use in KDE to temporarily store my GPG passphrase? Something like gpg-agent with a GUI. (I don't care about the GUI, but how'd I go about making gpg-agent work on KDE, then?)01:51
hatake_kakashikameron: so you went to init 3 and killed X, you still hear sounds?01:52
kameron... it didn't kill x.. i don't know what it did. i typed 'sudo telinit 3'01:52
hatake_kakashikameron: it should be 'sudo init 3 && killall X'01:52
hatake_kakashierr01:52
kameronoh, and kill x.01:53
hatake_kakashisudo init 3 && sudo killall X01:53
hatake_kakashido be warned that you need to go back to init 5 and restart X01:53
kameronshould 'X' be the pid?01:53
jeroenvrpMez: I have an error01:54
hatake_kakashino killall can handle words, as long as you have pointed the right name.. I think its also Xorg01:54
kameronyes, Xorg is better.01:54
hatake_kakashiyeah its Xorg01:54
kameronokay, ill rejoin on irssi or something.01:54
jeroenvrpwhile updatinf from breezy to dapper (apt-get ugrade)01:54
hatake_kakashito restart X you need to type startxs01:54
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jeroenvrpErrors were encountered while processing:01:54
jeroenvrp /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gnome2_2.12.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb01:54
jeroenvrpE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:54
hatake_kakashistartx*01:54
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lagahi01:55
visik7some libraries on breezy aren't compiled with --with-pic I've patched that libraries anyone know where to submit the patch ?01:55
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kameronnothing man.01:55
kameronstill music.. this is gross.01:55
natHi, do you know the name of a good html editor ?01:55
kameronnat, i like screem01:55
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jeroenvrptrying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libpythonmethod.so', which is also in package python2.4-gnome201:56
lagawould anyone know why i can't join #ubuntu? it says that i'm banned but i can't see anything in the ban list that'd match my host mask01:56
hatake_kakashikameron: are you sure that if you unplugged the cable the sound would go away?01:56
kameroni switched to runlevel 3 after killing x, and it restarted on it's own hatake_kakashi01:56
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kameronhatake_kakashi: "the cable"01:56
kameronoh, like.. the.. here, let me try.01:56
kameronhatake_kakashi: yes, ofcourse it went away. i made sure to check it's not radio somewhere else in the room or anything.01:57
hatake_kakashikameron: hmm01:58
jeroenvrpok, removed pythonm-gnome201:59
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kameronhatake_kakashi, rebooted, it's gone.. that was so weird man.02:00
hatake_kakashikameron: try recalling what did you do last to cause that02:00
kameronhatake_kakashi, tell me, is there sound here: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://carcrazybill.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/180sx.jpg&imgrefurl=http://carcrazybill.tripod.com/&h=300&w=400&sz=36&tbnid=DYBs2r7DZ4-7FM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3D180sx%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG02:00
kameronhatake_kakashi, i was just browsing.. but closed the browser, sound continued.. killed the firefox process, etc, it still remained.02:02
hatake_kakashikameron: no sound for me, I am using firefox from the repos02:02
kameronhatake_kakashi, with all plugins, flash, shockwave, etc?02:03
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hatake_kakashikameron: flash only02:04
kameronhatake_kakashi, weird02:04
hatake_kakashiI don't even recall you can use shockwave with firefox, I'll check again02:04
kameronhatake_kakashi, i don't remember. i just loaded it and the music was playing.02:06
kameronhatake_kakashi, just checked out page source, noticed this:<embed autostart="true" hidden="true" loop="true" src="http://carcrazybill.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/acdchighwaytohell.mp3"></embed>02:06
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hatake_kakashikameron: well, check that against mozilla's default player for that mp3 handle02:08
kameronhow would i go about doing that?02:08
hatake_kakashikameron: open a new tab/window for firefox and type 'about:plugins' without quotes02:08
kameronah.. i was messing around in about:config02:09
hatake_kakashikameron: and it doesn't even seem like I have a program assigned to that handle, let alone a handle under its own heading02:10
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kameronhatake_kakashi, for me it's the mplayer plugin package, whatever it's called.02:11
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hatake_kakashikameron: ahh02:11
kameronhatake_kakashi, mozilla-mplayer02:11
hatake_kakashikameron: with that you could have looked for ps -A| grep mplayer or lsof| grep mplayer02:11
hatake_kakashior mozilla-mplayer for that instance02:12
kameroni02:12
kameroni'll know now :P02:12
kameronthanks for the help hatake_kakashi02:12
hatake_kakashikameron: and I thought it was definetly something to do with the browser from the first instance anyway, but oh well02:12
kameronyeah.02:13
hatake_kakashinp02:13
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Windkracht8Hello all, question: I want to add a system tray icon to my program which shows the status of the program, does someone know a howto or tutorial to do this?02:15
Windkracht8oh, yes, one thing: it has to work on KDE AND GNOME02:15
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haydeni just installed kubuntu, and when i go into system settings->disks and filesystems i click admin mode and type my password but it doesn't let me edit any options?>02:25
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staqenin ubuntu, what directory contains my desktop menu entry files?02:29
JohnFluxstagen locate .desktop02:30
hatake_kakashihayden: what are you trying to do with it anyway?02:31
MelsenOh?02:32
MelsenThere's a command called locat02:32
Melsen+e02:32
Melsencool =)02:32
MelsenI didnt know that02:32
Melsenhehe02:32
Melsenhayden: did you solve your problem?02:32
bobuseMelsen: there is a plugin for locate in konqueror, just type "locate: .desktop" in the URL bar02:33
Melsenhaha. Awesome02:33
bobusehayden: if you just have installed breezy from a cd, admin mode is bugly in kcontrol. You need to update your kubuntu02:35
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MelsenI've just had to reinstall my entire kubuntu... I managed to fuck it up02:36
MelsenAmazing the things you learn as a newbie linux desktop user02:36
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hatake_kakashibobuse: lol that's somewhat better than having a non-useable failsafe mode and arrow keys not working on vty02:37
bobuseMelsen: you can too type [alt] +[F2] , and type your request. It will open konqui with results02:37
MitjaWhat's the package for gmake?02:37
bobusehatake_kakashi: what's a vty ?02:38
Melsenterminal console - isnt it?02:38
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Melsenor am I mistaken hatake_kakashi?02:38
hatake_kakashiyes, those Ctrl+Alt+Fx where x is the numbers from 1 to 6, number 7 is the Xfce02:39
sareCan Anyone help me out ? -- I was trying to install Skype, and it said to run "sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt" so i did so, And now most things are malformatted...  IE. konqueror, ark.desktop02:39
Melsenouch02:39
Melsen'fraid I can't give you much advice.02:39
bobusehatake_kakashi: so you mean tty maybe02:39
MelsenBut I'll look forward to hearing the answer tho =)02:39
hatake_kakashi!info libqt3c102-mt02:39
farousIE02:40
farous?02:40
farous!skype02:40
ubotuhmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/02:40
hatake_kakashibobuse: bah, that too02:40
sarei think i may have downgraded  somthing...02:40
bobusefarous: IE = i.e.02:40
MelsenHey02:40
farousyou can install it directly from seveas repos02:40
Melsenat least I knew what he meant when he said vty =)02:40
Melsenhaha02:40
sarelol, I was follow ubuntuguide.org for skype02:41
farous!ubnuntuguide02:41
ubotufarous: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:41
sarefarous: IE ment examples02:41
farous!ubuntuguide02:41
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead02:41
faroussare ^ ^02:41
bobusehatake_kakashi: I have too problems with arrows keys on my laptop, but in all X apps :-/02:41
sarelol :(. Im new -- haha.02:41
farousok sare i understand now. Though you were running IE on wine :)02:42
hatake_kakashibobuse: could be key mappings02:42
sarewine is not installed lol02:42
hatake_kakashiIE through wine? disgusting02:42
sarebut gotcha02:42
sarehaha. Firefox <302:42
sare!info libqt3c102-mt02:42
bobusehatake_kakashi: maybe ... not yet investigating02:43
hatake_kakashifarous: you got that package through googling?02:43
hatake_kakashibobuse: heh02:43
faroushatake_kakashi: skype? I got it by enabling seveas repos and then just apt-get02:43
farous!tell sare about easysource02:44
hatake_kakashifarous: no, the libqt3c102-mt02:44
faroussare this will five you a good start02:44
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sareBut does anyone know how to fix whatever libqt3c102-mt has done?02:44
sarealright.02:44
faroushatake_kakashi: i do not think i needed it02:44
farouslet me se if it is installed02:44
hatake_kakashiahh, not you lol, wrong person, I should be asking sare, my bad02:44
hatake_kakashisare: where did you get libqt3c102-mt?02:45
sareapt-get02:45
sareapt-get install libqt3c102-mt02:45
farousno not installed how did you get it sare it is no in the repos02:45
farousit say it is an old obsolete package02:45
bobusetry to remove it.02:45
sarefarous: Seemed to work for me -- unfortinally.02:46
hatake_kakashilibqt3c102-mt - Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 302:46
benkong2any ifrename folks here?02:46
hatake_kakashimost likely in the universe part of repos02:46
farousperhaps but i do not have it here02:46
benkong2i have a laptop with built in wireless and they get named eth2 and eth3 anyway to change that? also they don't work on boot02:47
hatake_kakashifarous: its under breezy, I have both universe enabled one normal and one security universe enabled02:47
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farousand the skype i installed does not depend on it02:48
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sarewell im not worryed about skype right now -- I just need to fix whatever libqt3c102-mt did02:48
benkong2how can i stop knix from opening each time i start kubuntu?02:48
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benkong2sorry kmix ^02:49
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faroussare when you installed it did you get a message that other packages will be removed02:49
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sarefarous: It did not tell me, its just ran through... then asked me to restart, and when i did so it seemed to have done all this.02:50
faroussare ok try uninstalling it using adept02:51
sarewhich i do find fairly odd02:51
sarehow ? -- Sorry new02:51
farousmm it say it is a virtual package02:51
farouslet me see02:51
sarealright02:51
faroussare i can not find inofrmation on it02:52
faroustry adept in a terminal02:52
farouswhat command you used to install it by the way02:52
sareapt-get install libqt3c102-mt02:52
sarebash: adept: Command not found02:53
faroussare are you running kde02:53
sareYes, i belive so02:54
farous!+adept02:54
ubotuI heard adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:54
Melsenwhat deb do I need to add to sources.list to get KDE3.5.x?02:54
farousso it is the default package manager02:54
Melsennevermind02:55
Melsenfound it02:55
jpatrickMelsen: the one at the announcement: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php02:55
sarefarous: Its malformatted,  i can bearly run most things, the *Important* programs seem to be the malformatted ones02:55
MelsenToo slow jpatrick  =) hehe.. already found it *grins*02:55
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faroussare try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop02:56
farousmight help reinstalling any packages that might have been del02:57
sarebroken packages02:57
_acethe wiki about kernel building is really not okay02:57
_acei tried for two days02:57
sarefarous: Maybe this would be a bit of a problem? "Description: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3 This is the Trolltech Qt library, version 3. It's necessary for applications that link against the libqt-mt.so.3, e.g. all KDE3 applications."02:57
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_acebut the build wont' work, it compiles okay though02:57
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faroussare i have no idea than sorry02:58
MelsenWhat does this mean: gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -02:59
Melsenerr02:59
Melsenthis: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found02:59
MelsenDo I need to take notice of that, or just ignore it?02:59
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sarefarous: Accually, It seemed to have unisntalled them, and not installing itself.03:02
sarefarous: Thanks for the help, I think i just might re-install seeing how it was fresh anyways, Thank you though, see you guys later03:04
faroussare try sudo apt-get check03:04
farousmm03:04
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MelsenI can't seem to find the page that explains how to add universe and multiverse repositories to kubuntu breezy03:07
farous!tell melsen about source03:07
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farous!tell melsen about repos03:07
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MelsenBut...03:08
Melsenthats for 5.04 and ubuntu.. not kubuntu?03:08
farousmelsen the repos are the same03:08
farous!tell Melsen about easysource03:08
farousMelsen: and strange the link is for hoary i do not think so03:09
MelsenThat easy-source03:11
Melsendo I just mark all the source and packages in the right side on all of them?03:11
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farousMelsen: just select what you want then copy it to /etc/apt/sources.list03:12
farousMelsen: and easy source make you select breezy and kubuntu03:12
MNOHow come when I try to open a drive it says "Could not enter folder media/hda5"? :/03:13
farousmno cause there is no dir /media/hda503:13
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MNO but the drive is mounted? if i log in a root i can access the drive fine03:14
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farousMNO: do you have a drive /media/hda503:15
farousthe drive is under /dev/hda503:15
farousyou have to mount it to a dir03:15
MNOYeah. It under both03:15
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MNOIt was set to mount in the fstab03:16
farousMNO: than perhaps you do not have right permission to open it03:16
^rob^!awahi03:16
ubotu^rob^: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:16
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MNOSo how would I go about changing the permsissions?03:16
farousMNO: edit your fstab and make it access to reg users03:16
farousmno is it ntfs03:16
MNOYeah03:16
MNOCould you tell me how to edit the fstab as I dont know what to put in it03:17
farous!ntfs03:17
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:17
MNOthanks03:17
haydenwhat do i use to format a partition to fat32?03:18
Melsenjpatrick: You still around buddy?03:19
jpatrickyes03:19
MelsenAlright03:19
MelsenI just added a whole new sources.list taken from the easysource site03:19
MelsenYou familiar with that - right?03:20
MelsenThis one: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:20
MelsenSo.. I'm wondering.. is it safe for me to do that sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now?03:21
jpatrickdo sudo apt-get update03:21
MelsenAlready did that03:21
Melseneverything checked out fine03:21
jpatrickhit it@03:21
Melsenuhmm03:21
MelsenWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!03:21
Melsen  koffice-data koffice-libs krita openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us openoffice.org2-core openoffice.org2-common03:21
Melsen  ttf-opensymbol openoffice.org2-java-common python-uno openoffice.org2-writer openoffice.org2-calc03:21
Melsen  openoffice.org2-draw openoffice.org2-impress openoffice.org2-math openoffice.org2-base openoffice.org203:21
Melsen  openoffice.org2-help-en-us openoffice.org2-kde03:21
jpatrickY03:22
jpatrickand use pastebin03:22
Melsenalright03:22
MelsenSorry......03:22
Melsendamn03:22
Melsen102mb03:22
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Melsenmy goodness03:22
MelsenDo I need to shut down applications.. like this irc program and so on like Windows normally require?03:22
jpatrickNo03:22
MelsenOh... fantastic03:23
MelsenI think I'm gonna like running Kubuntu in the long term =)03:23
Melsennaturally given I can build up the require competance to use it properly.03:23
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MelsenBut I'm happy we have this #kubuntu channel with so many dedicated and helpful people.03:24
Melsenthat definately helps alot03:24
MelsenAny of you ever been in the #debian channel?03:24
MelsenBoy many of the people there seem so arrogant03:24
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Melsenand not interrested in helping out "newbies" at all...03:24
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hatake_kakashilol03:26
Melsen.. what?03:26
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hatake_kakashiMelsen: when you have been worn out to the stage where you read manuals most of the time, you may understand why someone won't guide you :)03:26
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Melsen... Well - that may be true. But isn't that still what the #irc channel is for.03:27
MelsenI know thats how they market that IRC channel on their website03:27
NRG88hi, where can i get a working wine? (not from winehq, cuz connection broken.. )03:27
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rhymery/help03:28
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hatake_kakashiNRG88: the one in the repos works03:29
hatake_kakashiNRG88: well for me it does03:29
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hatake_kakashiMelsen: not exactly, but you get extremists, trollers, etc03:29
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MelsenYeah well... I'm happy I dont have to hang out there anymore.03:30
MelsenIt's people like that which often have made me give up on using linux as a desktop replacement.03:30
ubijtsa_what usually ticks 'the gurus' off is when someone turns up, asks a question and if they have not got a complete answer in 30s they start going on about how unhelpful people are..03:31
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MelsenEven reading docs doesn't always make things understandable enough to comprehend the problem and possible solution to whatever problem you have.03:31
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hatake_kakashiMelsen: heh03:31
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MelsenOccasionally I've found that docs are in many cases written so they are understandable from people with knowledge about linux in the first place03:31
hatake_kakashiubijtsa2: that's also true03:32
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MelsenBut when you move from 10 years useage of windows and to linux..03:32
ubijtsa2Melsen: then you are brave :)03:32
ubijtsa2commendable, but also brave03:32
MelsenEither that, or I just hate Microsoft enough =)03:32
MelsenI'm sick and fed up with the ridiculous licensing politics.03:32
hatake_kakashiMelsen: in a *nix environment, most of the time you habitually spend time reading docs rather than having people to walk you through every step, only paid users get that sort of advantage to some point03:32
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MelsenI know me switching to linux wont do crap to MS - But it makes me feel better that I dont support it03:33
ubijtsa2Melsen: the licencing politics still exist in the unix world, once you head for the big iron stuff03:34
MelsenThat may be true.. and that may very well end up being my own scenario in the future.03:34
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hatake_kakashiubijtsa2: I don't have a copy of xp heh, I may need to obtain one from someone soon just to temporarily transfer my data between an open-sourced filesystem and a propriatory filesystem03:35
hatake_kakashiI'm planning to try and work with linux as much as possible03:35
MelsenBut for now, I have to say I've really got a taste for this... and not only is it because that Kubuntu have such an easy going and flexible design.. but also because I have yet to stumble into a problem I can't find help with through this channel. And whenever I've asked about something - I've always gotten an answer from a helpful soul... and when you need to dive head-deep into something so radical as switching from windows to linux as a desktop workstation03:35
Melsenon safe ground" by having a channel of helpful people03:35
ubijtsa2I already do03:35
Melsenif you know what I mean.03:35
ubijtsa2here at work there is terminal server I can use for the stuff that really require windoze03:36
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Melsenha! I got a citrix server here for the same purpose ubijtsa2 :)03:36
ubijtsa2Melsen: we try and help, if we can.. :)03:36
tomas_people03:36
tomas_i need help :'(03:36
tomas_i want to get my handycam working :'(03:36
ubijtsa2tomas_: fire away03:36
tomas_it has a firewire connection :gonk:03:37
MelsenRDP works fine...... =) I had a little trouble getting the citrix client working, but - I found a website that said I had to make a symbolic link to a library03:37
tomas_and i have no idea how to make it work03:37
Melsenand then it worked03:37
ubijtsa2Melsen: that is good03:37
Melsenya :P03:37
tomas_ubijtsa2: what should i do?03:37
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tomas_:/03:38
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hatake_kakashiheh03:38
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tomas_has anyone any clue?03:38
ubijtsa2someone else may well do though03:38
hatake_kakashiI don't have firewire03:38
tomas_it has usb too03:38
hatake_kakashimy box is at least 5 years old03:38
tomas_but i have heard that there is no video editing tools in linux that supports it03:38
NRG88how do i check the dependencies of a package in wine?03:38
NRG88sudo apt-get... ?03:38
hatake_kakashiNRG88: apt-get takes care of that03:38
NRG88i meain apt03:39
hatake_kakashiyes.. sudo apt-get03:39
tomas_oki03:39
fit4lfewhy is it that everytime I restart ubuntu not just xwindows but the whole machine I have to install the nvidia pkg2 again03:39
tomas_have a nice day folks03:39
Melsendone!03:39
NRG88but i only want to check it, etc03:39
tomas_btw :P03:39
hatake_kakashitomas_: nfi03:39
ubijtsa2tomas_: you can use google and search for the pci id's of the device (or the USB id's)03:39
fit4lfelike it won't save the settings on a restart ?>03:39
fit4lfeI don't understand03:39
tomas_THE CUPSproblem03:39
tomas_in dapper drake03:39
Melsenhey jpatrick : It's finished now.... with a full dist-upgrade? Do I need to reboot now to run 3.5.x KDE or?03:39
tomas_cups doesnt respond :/03:39
jpatrickMelsen: log out then back in03:40
hatake_kakashitomas_: heh I'm on breezy03:40
Melsenjpatrick: Oki03:40
Melsenbrb03:40
tomas_hatake_kakashi: me too, but not atm ;). running both breezy and dapper :P03:41
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: you mean the standard nvidia package?03:41
tomas_take care folks03:41
tomas_bye03:41
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fit4lfeyes03:41
hatake_kakashitomas_: well I'm not sure about the cups problem..03:41
hatake_kakashiffs03:41
ubijtsa2hatake_kakashi: see what I mean? :)03:41
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fit4lfeeverytime I restart xwindows doesn't start and I have to install the package again03:41
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: nfi, wait, you are using ubuntu? why not try asking in #ubuntu as well?03:42
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hatake_kakashiubijtsa2: lol I'm kinda seasoned to these sorts of stuff :)03:42
ubijtsa2impatient little sht weren't he..03:42
divansantanatomas_: Are you having cups problems? Seems to be a common problem! I had it too!03:42
hatake_kakashi*shrugs* hence we were all born different03:42
hatake_kakashidivansantana: too late03:42
fit4lfeI'm using kde though03:42
fit4lfetoo03:42
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: hmm03:42
ubijtsa2aye.. /me going back to preseed netinstalls03:42
fit4lfenot just gnome03:43
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hatake_kakashifit4lfe: iirc, once the package has been built and installed, it should have a module called nvidia under lsmod03:43
hatake_kakashinow, I don't see how restarting Xorg could cause nvidia.o or nvidia.ko to not load.. unless if you restarted the computer03:44
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fit4lferight I restarted my linux box03:44
fit4lfecan you not do thta and save the settings ?03:44
fit4lfecause sometimes I have to with programs I can['t kill03:45
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: you can make a script so that whenever it boots it loads the module03:46
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fit4lfejust a bin/bash script ?03:46
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: check your kernel log to see if it actually tried to load it, and check under init.d if there is something about nvidia03:46
fit4lfek03:47
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fit4lfenow what about programs freezsing like k3b03:47
hatake_kakashiI don't think up till now, they wouldn't have a script that would load it03:47
fit4lfeso annoying03:47
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: try running it through konsole or terminal window (gnome)03:47
bradcrimsun: you helped me the other day with a sound problem.  The option line is setill set in the modprobe directory. You fixed the problem but yesterday my sound went out again, can you tell me again the commands that you had me run from cli?  I know I should have saved them.03:47
fit4lfek03:48
fit4lfeshould be better that way then actually calling it from the desktop ?03:48
hatake_kakashibrad: by default if you used bash, it would save a log under ~/.bash_history03:48
hatake_kakashifit4lfe: not really, sometimes it may work, sometimes its slow, other times it may not work, or that it does not show any debug messages03:48
bradhatake_kakashi:  I checked that03:49
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hatake_kakashibrad: under root's ?03:49
bradbut since I ran the commands with sudo they didn't show up03:49
fit4lfeis the upgrade to 3.5.1 a crucial upgrade ?03:49
bradi checked the bash_history under root and my username03:49
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bradand I didn't see them03:49
hatake_kakashibrad: hmm03:49
bradit was some kind of modprobe thing where I tested differnt parms03:50
bradi rellay wish I had saved them03:50
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hatake_kakashiyeah, modprobe loads and unloads the modules imo03:50
bradyeah03:50
bradhe had a command where I could test that to see what i needed03:50
hatake_kakashibrad: do lspci and look for a sound card03:50
hatake_kakashiahh03:50
hatake_kakashiwith modprobe? maybe man modprobe might help03:51
bradhatake_kakashi:  it shows up in tere when i do lspci03:51
hatake_kakashibrad: ok, you need to get that info and then maybe look under the kernel modules (prebuilt modules) for it03:52
hatake_kakashiI wonder if depmod might work03:52
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hatake_kakashibrad: which soundcard is it anyway?03:53
bradvia03:53
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benkong2can kde 3.5 be installed on kubuntu?03:54
jpatrickbenkong2: yes03:54
jpatrickand KDE 3.5.103:54
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benkong2jpatrick: docs in the wiki?03:54
jpatrickbenkong2: /topic03:55
benkong2thanks03:55
fit4lfeanyvbody using vmware at all03:55
hatake_kakashibrad: did it involve typing depmod?03:55
Authoritywhat is the preferred method of managing init scripts in Kubuntu?  (like chkconfig in RHEL or rc-update in Gentoo)03:56
hatake_kakashifor that command to look for modules that matches your machine?03:56
bradhatake_kakashi:  I don't remember but it might have03:56
hatake_kakashibrad: what is the exact full name of the audio card? I think I may have found it03:57
benkong2jpatrick: adept does not show kde 3.5 in the repos??03:57
bradhatake_kakashi: Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 A                                                udio Controller (rev 60)03:57
jpatrickbenkong2: you have to enable the repo from kubuntu.org03:57
benkong2jpatrick...k let me check03:57
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hatake_kakashivia82cxxx_audio.ko03:58
hatake_kakashihmm, maybe not it, will keep on looking03:58
bradthank you03:58
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haydenwhere can i get help mounting my fat32 partition03:59
bradhatake_kakashi: will this help03:59
hatake_kakashiwait a sec, that's using the ac97 chip, hm there should be one03:59
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bradhatake_kakashi: options snd-via82xx dxs_support=2 <-- this is what i sended up adding to make it work03:59
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hatake_kakashihayden: mount -t vfat /dev/foo /mnt/foo04:00
hatake_kakashibrad: not sure, but you could try, I found the ac97 module though04:00
haydenwhat about in fstab?04:00
benkong2jpatrick: whoa is this a trouble alert kubuntu-desktop and many kde apps will be removed???04:01
hatake_kakashihayden: almost the same.. /dev/foo /mnt/foo vfat rw,defaults 0 0  (for every space from /dev/foo to 0 you need to use tab I think)04:01
jpatrickbenkong2: :/04:01
haydenok thanks04:01
hatake_kakashihayden: that's only if you want it read/write support04:01
hatake_kakashibrad: any luck?04:02
haydenep04:02
haydenyep*04:02
benkong2jpatrick: will it still work if i let it unistall those items04:02
bradhatake_kakashi:  I don't know what to try04:02
jpatrickmaybe...04:02
hatake_kakashibrad: ok try using the ac97 one first I think04:02
benkong2rats...indecision again04:02
haydenand the fat32 hex code in fdisk is 'b' right?04:02
bradhatake_kakashi: how?04:02
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bradi'm looking in the alsa-base file in /etc/modprobe.d and there are a bunch of commands similar to the one I added I wonder if those are interfereing.04:04
hatake_kakashibrad: maybe modprobe snd-ac97-codec04:04
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hatake_kakashihayden: I think so, check with fdisk04:05
hatake_kakashiwin95 LBA is the last I recalled04:05
hatake_kakashis/is/was04:05
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bradhatake_kakashi:  I'm gonna try something04:07
bradthanks for the help04:07
Melsen!tell melsen about firefox04:09
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Melsen!firefox1.504:09
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:09
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NRG88why can't i use wine? i get the following error:04:11
NRG88X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)04:11
NRG88  Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)04:11
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bradhatake_kakashi:  it works now04:13
hatake_kakashiNRG88: use the run command04:13
hatake_kakashibrad: with the one you suggested or the ac97 one?04:14
bradactually no04:14
bradi niticed that there was a .save file for the hardware and I put my option line in that file and it worked.04:14
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NRG88hatake_kakashi: like run notepad.exe ?04:15
hatake_kakashibrad: ahh ok, so it works now?04:16
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bradyes04:16
bradi don't know why04:16
hatake_kakashiNRG88: yes, there is a run under the menu04:16
hatake_kakashibrad: maybe you used a file editing program and you didn't save it properly or somethign?04:17
bradhatake_kakashi:  I don't know04:17
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NRG88hatake_kakashi: i don't have one04:17
NRG88do i need a restart?04:17
NRG88i've inlstalled wine a few minutes ago04:17
NRG88in konqueror, exe's are not recognized04:18
hatake_kakashibrad: well, with vim that is the case, it saves a buffer or something04:18
hatake_kakashiNRG88: you should have it under the K menu04:18
hatake_kakashiK Run wine04:19
eazyanyone knows how to make the mouse settings for 800 dpi stay in kcontrol? ...keeps going back to 400 after every reboot04:19
Jaymacany good Direct Connect clients around?04:20
JaymacNot really a van of valknut04:20
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haydeni get this error when i try make change a ntfs partition to fat32 in fdisk -> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.04:21
NRG88nothing happens04:21
NRG88ot is loadin, and nothing04:21
NRG88i entered wine /media/hda5/Programs/Totalcmd/totalcmd.exe for exaple, and it loads, and a few seconds later, exits04:22
hatake_kakashifrom that Run command?04:22
staqeni heard linus torvald is a bastard (torvalds himself is quoted to have said that). is that true, or is it figurative?04:22
hatake_kakashierr Run comamnd04:22
hatake_kakashis/comamd/command04:22
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dell500what do i do if my ipod won't umount or eject?04:23
hatake_kakashihayden: I never tried, that before, are you intending to convert ntfs to fat32?04:23
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hatake_kakashistaqen: as in what did he say?04:23
hatake_kakashidell500: use the mount command in konsole/etc to umount it with sudo04:23
haydenim having trouble formatting a partition to fat32, i want any data onthe partition gone04:23
dell500hatake_kakashi, use mount instead of umount?04:24
NRG88and now i get an error like:04:24
NRG88kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.04:24
NRG88kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.04:24
dell500hatake_kakashi, what you just said doesn't make any sense, i just said that umount and eject don't work, says the device is busy04:24
hatake_kakashihayden: you may as well use parted or cfdisk to delete it.. or even fdisk, delete that partition if you can, and then write to the disk, restart cfdisk/fdisk/parted and then make a new partition, and then write to the hard disk again, that should work I think04:25
hatake_kakashiNRG88: odd04:25
haydenhatake_kakashi: ok thanks alot, i'll give it a go04:25
hatake_kakashidell500: no, umount should unmount it, what error did you get if you tried unmounting?04:25
hatake_kakashidell500: ahhh04:25
NRG88i'm considering a restart04:25
hatake_kakashidell500: lsof| grep /dev/<location of where ipod is mounted>04:25
dell500sudo umount /media/ipod04:26
dell500umount: /media/ipod: device is busy04:26
dell500umount: /media/ipod: device is busy04:26
hatake_kakashidell500: sudo lsof| grep /media/ipod04:26
staqenhatake_kakashi: search for "bastard" here: http://theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=2958904:26
dell500hatake_kakashi, what is that?04:27
dell500has 4 entries, 2 for myself and 2 for root04:27
hatake_kakashidell500: it lists for open files, handy to see what programs has handle at what points04:27
hatake_kakashidell500: and what are the apps that are using it?04:28
dell500omg04:28
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dell500just because i was in one of the folders, hatake_kakashi, it wouldn't let me umount04:28
dell500now it just umounted once i went back into the ~/ dir04:28
dell500wierd shizzle04:28
hatake_kakashidell500: yes, because you are on that directory and umount does not allow you to do that04:29
dell500wierd lol04:29
dell500hatake_kakashi, you know what gnupod is?04:29
hatake_kakashito prevent you writing further files in and causing fs error04:29
hatake_kakashidell500: never used it04:29
dell500crappy04:30
hatake_kakashistaqen: interesting, going to see what OS are they running that website on, its probably some more MS propaganda imo04:31
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NRG88how do i install sh files?04:32
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hatake_kakashiNRG88: sh ./foo.sh04:35
hatake_kakashistaqen: heh, have a read below at some of the users who later paraphrased what he said04:35
NRG88thanks04:36
staqenhatake_kakashi: i will :))04:36
hatake_kakashistaqen: if that paraphrase proved to be correct.. forgive my lack of tact but I would definetly also support that movement04:37
hatake_kakashithough I don't know about programming/debugging that well, I do know however, that many people are sitting on the other side asking for help, and sitting on their asses being a non helpful contributer04:38
hatake_kakashias an old saying goes "be part of the solution"04:39
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_massimottp://www.eurokiddies.com/index.php?referer=3746004:41
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hatake_kakashi_massimo: get lost spammer :p04:41
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buzzyhow can i write a floppy that i'll need under win?04:42
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hatake_kakashibuzzy: you have to make it fat1604:44
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buzzynot 3204:44
buzzyhatake_kakashi:04:44
hatake_kakashiI think mkfs.vfat may work04:44
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NemezisI have removed the KDE/Konqueror profile that comes by default with Kubuntu but I lost almost 99% of Konqueror's look...how do I restore KDE/Konqueror's default look?04:44
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hatake_kakashi32 requires much larger fs rather than fat1604:44
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hatake_kakashibuzzy: or you can try mtools04:45
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outlawreghi04:46
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Nemezisanyone04:46
NemezisI have removed the KDE/Konqueror profile that comes by default with Kubuntu but I lost almost 99% of Konqueror's look...how do I restore KDE/Konqueror's default look?04:46
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Xemanth^W: GPG error: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>04:47
Xemanth^W: GPG error: http://www.mirrorservice.org breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>04:47
Xemanth^what does that mean04:47
hatake_kakashiXemanth^: try regetting the file, if it continues to fail, someone has tampered the package04:47
staqenhatake_kakashi: "forgive my lack of tact but I would definetly also support that movement" -- which movement are you talking about?04:48
haydenhatake_kakashi: i tried deletign the partition with cfdisk, making a new one but when i try to mount it i get these errors 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4,' 'VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda4'04:48
hatake_kakashistaqen: the ideal that was from the paraphrase04:48
hatake_kakashihayden: you need to format it as well. mkfs.vfat04:49
Xemanth^hatake_kakashi: yop ill try04:49
haydenahh thanks alot (me = noob)04:49
hatake_kakashihayden: everyone has to start somewhere04:50
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Nemezisgod damn it I ask this 30 times and no one answers04:50
NemezisI have removed the KDE/Konqueror profile that comes by default with Kubuntu but I lost almost 99% of Konqueror's look...how do I restore KDE/Konqueror's default look?04:50
hatake_kakashiNemezis: nfi04:50
Nemezishatake_kakashi: what is nfi ?04:51
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Xemanth^hatake_kakashi: i downloaded from here and added: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php same problem04:52
hatake_kakashiNemezis: no fscking idea04:52
Nemezisis it really that Kubuntu sux that way04:52
Nemezisthat much04:52
NemezisI did what writes in the wiki and it made chaos04:52
hatake_kakashiXemanth^: are you sure you got the right key?04:53
hatake_kakashiNemezis: 'its built by humans for humans'04:53
hatake_kakashimy dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy wasn't a clean upgrade either :P04:53
Nemezishatake_kakashi: good point u got04:53
Xemanth^hatake_kakashi: now it works, it was just slow04:54
hatake_kakashiXemanth^: heh ok04:54
Nemezisthen, why I dont have rpc.mountd ?04:54
RiddellNemezis: it's on the FAQ on kubuntu.org04:54
NemezisRiddell: I did it, and it is even worse04:55
RiddellXemanth^: what deb source are you using?04:55
NemezisRiddell: I did what it writes in the FAQ, no use04:56
Nemezisgod damn it can Kubuntu sux more than this!?04:58
Nemezisno support, no community04:58
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Nemezisfuck u losers, get use to losing !04:58
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trappistbye04:58
trappist:*04:58
jpatrickwhat the hell was he on about?05:01
trappistsomething about living under a bridge and eating small children05:02
hatake_kakashijpatrick: an usual impatient and ignorant person05:02
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hatake_kakashioh! my so-and-so got fscked! I followed the help and I ask for help here and no-one helps! this community sux! .. lame05:03
MNOhey whats the command to open up that graphical mixer in a terminal. something like xlsa05:03
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StRHi all05:08
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StRin Kopete:  anyone is using the plugin for auto replace and add a dot at the end of each line?05:09
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StRhello?05:20
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VincentMXhi05:28
maverickhi05:29
maverickany c++ coders about05:29
bobuseStR: yes, it fonctionne05:30
StRfonctionne?05:30
bobuseStR: text remplacement works05:30
bobusefonctionne was in my samples ;-)05:31
StRbobuse: the thing about the dot at the end of the line and the cappital at the beginning?05:31
bobusebut the end dot seems not worying05:31
bobuseworking05:31
StRbobuse: so.. it is a general problem...05:32
bobusemaybe05:32
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haydenhow can i install w32codecs?05:39
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trappist!tell hayden about restricted05:42
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bobuse!w32codecs05:44
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install05:44
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eazyanyone know how I can make the 800 dpi-setting for my mouse in kcontrol stay? keeps going back to 400 after reboot05:46
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hayden!nvidia05:48
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:48
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eazy!800dpi ;)05:49
ubotueazy: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:49
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gnumdkIs there a way to go back to old media:/ behaviour in dapper?05:51
gnumdkhello first :p05:51
eazyk, think I have to be happy with 400 then :P05:51
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BorutAs start up in made webmail aspx??05:57
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Boruthttp://webmail.aol.com/05:59
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Riddellgnumdk: what old behaviour?06:00
Boruthmm06:02
Borutno loading webmail06:02
BorutMessage beguile in polish06:03
BorutIm write in polish06:03
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rysiekBorut: pisz na priva po Polsku o co biega06:07
rysiek:)06:07
Borutok06:07
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alindHi, I'm having problems installing KDE 3.5.1. When upgrading the packages the upgrade breaks due to an error in the avahi setup script. Anyone else had this?06:07
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rysiekBorut: shit, priv nie dziala, zablokowany z powodu spamu06:08
rysiekdaj chwilke06:08
rysiekhey guys06:09
rysiekdo you know a Kubuntu channel in Polish?06:09
Borutaha06:09
Borutto ci napisze ti po polsku06:09
Borutszybko06:09
rysiekpoczekaj, bo sie moga obrazic ;)06:09
rysiekanybody?06:09
Borutmas GG lub jaki komunikator06:10
Borut??06:10
rysiekgg:290638806:10
Borutok to pogadamy na GG06:10
rysiekdaj swoj, bo mam zablokowanych nieznajomych ;)06:10
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weedarKrdc just hangs when trying to connect to the remote desktop, am I the only one experiencing this?06:11
SkrotenHi. kwifimanager says signal strength is 39, and it says "TOP". Is that 39/100? And how can that be top?06:11
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Borutpisz teraz06:12
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weedarThis is an english chanel Borat06:13
weedarsorry, Borut06:13
Borutsorry06:13
Borutchannel polish its no help me06:13
VincentMXis there any way to remote login from my Kubuntu Box to my fathers Win2k pro box? it doesn't have terminal services like win2k server has.06:16
luka74_VincentMX: install VNC on Win2K box and use krdc06:18
Borutok06:19
Borutdanke06:19
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luka74_VincentMX: look for UltraVNC or TightVNC06:20
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hayden!nvidia06:35
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736806:35
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haydenwhats a game or app i can install to check my nvidia card is working properly06:39
edward0glxgears06:39
edward0comes with Xorg06:39
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edward0guess you could try one of those nice opengl kde screensavers too06:40
edward0:D06:40
haydenk thanks06:40
haydenglxgears looks like it is going slow as06:42
akrzywdaperhaps a stupid question, but what's the easiest way to upgrade my kubuntu from hoary to anything newer?06:42
haydenbut the open gl screensavers all work at a good speed06:42
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VincentMXakrzywda: you need to replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, and sudo apt-get update, and then, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:44
edward0hayden: well glxgears can show you fps06:44
akrzywdaVincentMX, ok, thx06:44
VincentMXnp06:44
edward0hayden: you could install a game like enemy-territory q4 demo ut or something06:44
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haydenah yea06:45
haydeni installed an ran tuxracer, i was getting 25-30 fps with gf mx44006:46
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edward0hayden: well I get 80 - 90 fps in et with my 440go 64Mb06:46
haydenwhats the package name for the q4 demo?06:46
edward0hayden: you have to download it :)06:47
haydennot using apt?06:47
jpatrickhayden: what?06:47
edward0q4 demo you won't get anywhere with06:47
edward0q4 demo doesn't even run here06:47
edward0:\06:47
edward0hayden: filefront.com maybe?06:47
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edward0aao/et/ut work nice with a 440go 64Mb06:48
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akrzywdaVincentMX, would you recommend using unstable version of breezy? how is it possible to upgrade to such one?06:48
edward0akrzywda: I am using that right now :)06:48
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akrzywdaedward0, how can I upgrade directly to his one from hoary?06:49
edward0akrzywda: VincentMX already answered that for you :)06:49
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akrzywdaedward0, ok, I thought it was for a stable version06:50
edward0dapper you mean?06:52
VincentMXakrzywda: if you want unstable version you need to put dapper there06:52
edward0just installed not quite familar with hoary/breezy/dapper :D06:53
VincentMX:D06:53
akrzywdaoops, 653Mb to download for upgrading to breezy06:54
edward0just C-c it06:54
VincentMXbbl06:56
edward0btw what is katapult?06:56
VincentMXkatapult is a way to start programs06:56
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edward0how?06:57
edward0read the about stuff don't get it :D06:57
VincentMXpress alt+space and type konversation for example06:57
VincentMXor konver will be enough even06:57
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VincentMXyou see?06:57
VincentMXcool eh?06:58
edward0what is alt+f2 for then?06:58
edward0o_O06:58
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VincentMXdon't know06:58
VincentMXthat's the run command06:58
edward0same thing no?06:59
VincentMXno not the same06:59
VincentMXpress alt+space and type "konver"06:59
edward0well anyways thanks06:59
VincentMXit will know you mean Konversation06:59
VincentMXnp07:00
edward0I removed konversation :)07:00
VincentMXwhy?07:00
edward0because kopete has irc support :)07:00
VincentMXit works with other programs too btw07:00
VincentMXok07:00
jpatrickheh07:00
edward0yes I started firefox extra thanks :)07:00
edward0etc..07:00
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VincentMXok07:00
VincentMXbbl07:00
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edward0/wi mistik107:04
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atreidesitaliani?07:26
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Tm_Tjpatrick: see?!07:27
Tm_Tjpatrick: atleast there was not any "tutti"07:27
jpatrickTm_T: ROFL07:27
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Tm_Thaha07:28
Tm_Tjpatrick: quite normal in finnish channels ;)07:28
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jpatrickTm_T: how many of them speak finnish?07:29
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Tm_Tjpatrick: italians? less than one in 100 00007:30
Akurinhey again07:30
jpatrickhello Akurin + Mez07:30
Akurinit worked07:30
Akurinexcept07:30
Akurini couldnt get on the internet07:31
Akurinit was odd07:31
jpatrickAkurin: dead annoying but it's  being fixed07:31
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Akurinok07:31
Akurinwell i guess i can w8 til then07:32
Akurinif i do install linux07:32
Akurindo i have to partition my drive07:32
Akurin?07:32
Akurinwell kubuntu anyway07:33
Tm_TAkurin: you prolly like to partition it ;)07:33
Akurinwon't that delete everything i already have on my HDD/07:33
Akurin?*07:33
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mikeFOrgive the silly question as konq causes my PC to freeze up. But are the nvidia drivers avaialble through apt-get?07:34
Akurin??07:37
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wftlHello all.  Is there a preferred method of turning Ubuntu into Kubuntu? Other than reinstalling.07:38
kkathmanwftl:  yes07:39
kkathmanwftl:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:39
wftlkkathman : Ah, too easy.07:40
Akurin>>07:40
wftlThank you.07:40
kkathmannp07:40
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dcwckdcan anyone help me quickly pleasE?07:43
Akurinwon't that delete everything i already have on my HDD?07:43
Akurinif i partition?07:44
tsdgeosdcwckd: just ask07:44
dcwckdok07:44
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dcwckdim trying to upgrade to kde 3.5.1, ive added the source to my apt-get sources, and jdone a "apt-get update", but when i do an "apt-get upgrade" it holds all of the kde packages back07:44
dcwckdhow do I upgrade KDE?07:44
dcwckd"apt-get install kde" ??07:45
kkathmandcwckd: apt-get dist-upgrade07:45
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dcwckdi thought distupgrade was to go to new ditros?07:46
dcwckdlike breezy -> dapper07:46
kkathmanit is that also, but going from kde 3.5->3.5.1 requires it too07:46
dcwckdsounds awesome07:46
dcwckdgood good07:46
dcwckdworking07:46
dcwckdI just moved over to kubuntu07:46
kkathmanits takes a little time for the upgrade07:47
dcwckdbeen using SuSE for almost 5 years07:47
kkathmandcwckd: yah Im running both myself07:47
kkathmanboth have their strengths07:47
dcwckdI agree07:47
dcwckdanyway, doing this wont upgrade to dapper07:47
dcwckdright?07:47
kkathmanno, not unless you changed your sources to "dapper"07:48
dcwckddidnt07:48
dcwckdawesome07:48
kkathmanyer fine then07:48
dcwckdthanks a ton07:48
kkathmannp07:48
dcwckdsigning off, need the bandwidth07:48
dcwckdthanks for the help07:48
kkathmancya07:48
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mandrichello, i just installed breezy and can't get my screen res right.  display setting show 1600x1200 75hz but seems that is the virtual res since i need to pan around the desktop.  what tool should i use to fix this?07:50
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fumofuhi07:52
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fumofudo you know why when i try to read a video and external subtitle in xine it's crash?07:53
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Akurinif i partition my HDD, won't that delete everything i already have on my HDD?08:01
fumofuit's depend if you format or not08:02
Akurinhow so?08:03
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mikeHi  - any ideas why the toolbar and menu fonts in adept aren't the same as those configured in the system settings?08:07
icicledthat's cause its run under the roots profile i think08:09
icicledand not the current users08:09
mikeah good point08:09
icicledi solved it by enabling root user and logging in and setting preferences and the disabled it back08:09
icicledmandric: does your monitor support that resolution?08:10
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mikeMust be another way of doing it08:10
icicledyea maybe, but that seemed like the most logical option :)08:11
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icicledthough it is a pain whenever you switch themes for the current user08:11
icicledhmm, well, you could symlink the profiles08:11
icicledthat'd work i think08:11
iciclednot sure though08:12
mikeIt's weird - my fonts are set to 9pt but they're huge08:12
icicledfor some reason all the fonts are huge on install08:12
KnowerrorsAny dialup modem knowledgeable people around?08:12
mikeah ok08:12
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MeTahi all08:13
icicledhi08:13
mikeLet's see if Konq will work without hanging my PC08:13
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MeTahow can i upgrade my kde 3.4.308:13
MeTafrom command line08:13
MeTai'm added the repositoryes08:13
icicledapt-get dist-upgrade ?08:13
MeTabut i think it's bad upgrading from kde08:14
MeTadist!08:14
icicledi think i used that to upgrade08:14
MeTaok thx i try08:14
hellsingapt-get update kdeand all the repositories08:14
Akurinshould i format my HDD when installing kubuntu?08:14
mikeWhat's the packages for mp3?08:14
icicledits on the wiki08:14
hellsingAkurin yes a partition is need08:14
mikeWebsite says akode-mpeg, which doesn't exist08:14
icicleddid you add the repositories?08:15
mikeWhich ones?08:15
hellsingw30codec and the other one08:15
mikeno08:15
mikedidnt know about those08:15
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mikeIs that on the website?08:16
hellsingread the faq08:16
icicledmike: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:16
mandricicicled: yes08:16
icicledunder multimedia, restricted format08:16
mandricicicled: windows was just running at 1600x1200 60Hz08:16
icicledmandric: you might have to set a modline in xorg.conf08:16
mikeAh   I was using kubuntu site08:17
mandricicicled: but kubuntu is trying 1600x1200 75Hz08:17
mandricicicled: there used to be a tool that helped with modlines.08:17
icicledmandric: but its showing up where you have to pan right?08:17
mandricicicled: yes08:17
icicledmandric: what monitor model?08:17
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mikeI need a good modeline tool too08:17
hellsingme i wanna read a video and external subtitle with xine but impossible08:17
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mandricicicled: 2001FP i think08:18
icicledthere's a package called "videogen" in the repositories08:18
icicledsomeone try it out08:18
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thcHi! I have a very annoying problem, some some odd reason modprobe tries to load the wrong version of the nvidia official module every time. The right version is on my pc too, its just not loaded. i tried to exchange the versions, copy them over and what not, but each boot its the same problem ... ?08:18
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metare08:19
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Rayakenhi, i got a little problem with my ati 9200 card. i got no 3d hardware accel. everything in the conf seemsm ok. the xlog says direct rendering enabled but glxgears says direct rendering: no.08:19
metaI'm during the upgrade...08:19
Rayakenany help would be appreciated08:19
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mikeOh here we go - crappy sound through amarok08:19
mandricicicled: which repository? sorry, i'm still new.  strange thing is, i don't see any Hz stuff in xorg.conf.08:20
icicledmandric: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54538208:20
icicledyou'll have to put that in your xorg.conf08:20
icicledrather, modify your monitor section to match whats on the link i gave you08:20
mandricicicled: mmm08:20
icicledand then restart X, and it should work just fine08:20
mandricicicled: how do i restart X graceful (ie. not ctrl+alt+bkspace)08:22
metasudo /etc/init.d/kdm start|stop|reload|force-reload etc08:23
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icicledyea use that sudo command, just logout first & switch to console & run that command08:24
metayou can this under kde...08:24
meta:)08:24
icicled=] 08:24
metayou mustn't log out08:24
mandricicicled: damn, "cannot display this mode" ... lemme double-check.08:24
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metayou must to write to your notes this cmd, because you cant start kdm:)08:25
metaonyl if you do reboot08:25
icicledtry the config listed at the bottom of this page: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes08:25
Rayakeni enabled LIBGL_DEBUG and started glxinfo. at the beginning it says that it can't find r200_dri.so. it searched it in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri. but the file is under /usr/lib/dri. any idea how to fix this?08:26
metacopy:)08:26
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metahm?:)08:26
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Rayakencopy doesn't sound so good08:26
metayes...08:26
meta:)08:26
Akurinbut does anything oon my HHD get deleted, if i partiton? and do i need to format?08:27
Rayakenunder /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri are the two files which were installed with the fglrx install08:27
icicledmandric: any luck?08:27
mandricicicled: trying ...08:28
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Rayakenbut i don't need fglrx. ain't working with my card08:28
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mandricicicled: i think i'm just gonna reboot08:28
visik7anyone got lisa working ?08:29
icicledmandric: before you do that08:29
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icicledrun: sudo X -configure from console08:29
icicledand it'll produce a xorg.conf08:29
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mandricicicled: looks better08:29
mandricicicled: yep, works. i just did kdm stop/start08:29
icicled=] 08:30
icicledgood08:30
mandricYEAH08:30
icicledit's working great?08:30
mandrici can breathe. i don't have to use windows.08:30
mandriclooks perfect08:30
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icicledok, good, you should change DisplaySize to 408 306 if you care about displaying paper sizes correctly n all08:31
icicledas listed in http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes08:31
icicledits just to help other programs work better08:31
icicledthat's all08:31
mandrichrm, ok08:31
mandricwill read that wiki page08:31
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icicledoff to study08:31
icicledg'luck08:31
mandricgracias!08:32
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icicledi forgot how to say thank you in spanish, de nada?08:32
iciclederr, i mean your welcom08:32
icicledanyway08:32
ackHi, does Abuntu come wich Gcc pre-installed?08:32
ackkubuntu ;)08:33
icicledack, i don't think any developing tools are installed by default08:33
icicledyou'll have to install em08:33
mandricicicled: heh. yeah that works.08:34
Spudchathi guys08:34
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Spudchatwhat is better for an 866mhz box gnome or kde?08:35
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MeTa[OFF] i think gnome is easier than kde in graphics08:35
Spudchat377 MBs ram as well08:35
MeTa[OFF] but i'm dont know08:35
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Spudchathmm maybe ill install both and check it out08:36
leafwhow can one copy verbatim one partition into another (dd command, I know) and then perform some sort of md5 checksum, to verify the accuracy of the copy?08:36
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leafwdoes the partition need to be formated the same way?08:36
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mikeamarok: oss device is already in use?08:36
visik7leafw: fsck it08:36
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leafwvisik7 : fsck meaning, run a test for consistency on it, or format it ?08:37
visik7the 1st08:37
leafwok08:37
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mikeWhat output plugin do you use for amarok? alsasink is the only one that works but it skips a lot08:37
ClayGI know that the defaut itnes settings want to keep the ipod current with the computer, what happens if you format your harddrive and forget. then install itunes? If you plug in your ipod will it suck the songs off since they aren't on the computer or at least present an option?08:37
visik7mike: artsink08:38
ClayGoops wrong channel sorry08:38
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mikeOops dont have that one installed08:38
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mikeWhat package is that visik?08:39
MeTa[OFF] how can i set the su's password?08:40
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MetaMorfoziS!chpass08:40
ubotuMetaMorfoziS: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:40
MetaMorfoziS!su08:40
ubotuI heard su is see !sudo08:40
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MetaMorfoziSi want to set su's password08:40
MetaMorfoziSi want use su and su - commands08:41
MetaMorfoziSanybody?08:41
mikevisik7: What package is that in?08:41
visik7dunno man should be in it by default08:41
mikeit's not installed by default08:41
visik7using xine engine I can select artsink08:41
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visik7btw u should ask amarok questions on #amarok08:42
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mikeok08:42
visik7try apt-get install amarok-arts08:42
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acki cant change my screen reolution, everything is big08:43
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visik7but I repeat kubuntu install it by default08:45
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JeSuisMorEverytime I try to do anything that inovles KDE and needing root it says "Su returned with an error"08:48
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JeSuisMorAnyone have any ideas of what si going on?08:50
visik7run from the console08:50
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slow-motionhallo08:50
ErikTheRedhello08:51
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ErikTheRedso is there any reason why upgrading to the 2.6.15 kernel would lead to my cdrom drive not being detected?08:51
ackIn apache should i have a bin directory where all my prgrams should be?08:52
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mandrichello, i might be crazy, but i'm having trouble installing easyubuntu on breezy.  what's the trick? sorry, i'm now.08:53
mandrics/ow/ew/08:53
mandrici get a tgz file, unpakc it, how do i launch it?08:53
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ackanyone around?08:55
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Akurinhello again08:55
Akurini just realized something08:55
mikeSo far kubuntu is annoying me - several crashes for me with adept and system settings08:55
leafwanyone on powerpc. How can I make a backup of the partition table, which is non-msdos like08:56
Akurincan't i use my iPod to use Kubuntu?08:56
mikeAnd amarok crashes a lot08:56
icicledkubuntu is ubuntu08:56
icicledi suggest you folks check out www.ubuntuforums.org08:56
Akurinwith KDE08:56
ErikTheRedAkurin: i believe amarok has ipod support08:57
brexelleafw: dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/user/backup count=51208:57
Akurini meant08:57
brexelleafw: you can also use sfdisk08:57
Akurincan't i install kubuntu on my iPod?08:57
icicled?08:57
Akurinthen boot it off of that?08:58
ErikTheRedum08:58
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pussfellerAkurin: you would prob wnt an svn version of amarok for ipod support08:58
ErikTheRedi've never tried booting ubuntu off of a usb hard disk before08:58
ackyou can install kubuntu on ipods?08:58
leafwbrexel : that backs up the MBR08:58
pussfellerwhich is doable, but a pain08:58
ErikTheRedi've heard that it can be done though08:58
Akurino eff it then08:58
brexelleafw: yup08:58
leafwbrexel : and sfdisk complains about "non-msdos signature in the table"08:59
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Akurini'll try another linux distribution08:59
leafwpowerpc is odd08:59
Akurinthankx for the help anyway08:59
leafwthat's all08:59
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brexelleafw: just use dd08:59
leafwI have a dual boot system with macosx as well08:59
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pussfellerany other distro is going to have weak ipod support natively too....08:59
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leafwbrexel : dd to coy the partition table, ok, but where does it live08:59
pussfellerbut he will have to find that out :)08:59
brexelin the first 512 bytes of your hd09:00
Jarr3dshould there be a /apache2/bin/ folder for apche with programs in it?09:00
brexelJarr3d: no09:00
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Jarr3dIs apache ALL done bye scripting?09:00
brexel?09:00
brexelapache itself is a C binary09:01
Jarr3dya...09:01
brexelapache can use programs via the common gateway interface (CGI) but usually you use scripts like php or html scripts, yes09:01
Jarr3dand how do i configure my server?09:01
brexel /etc/apache2/apache2.conf09:01
brexelyou asked the same thing yesterday09:01
brexelmaybe you should read some documentation :)09:02
Jarr3dI know, but i'm still not fully understanding it09:02
Jarr3di'm completely new09:02
brexelwhat exactly don't u understand?09:02
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mikeAny way to remove open office without removing kubuntu-desktop package?09:02
Jarr3dHow i configure my server to run my website09:03
Tonio_mike: nopr09:03
Tonio_that's not possible09:03
brexelmike: the kubuntu-desktop package is just a metapackage09:03
mikeso I can't remove oo?09:03
vgeyes09:03
brexelJarr3d: put your site in the server's DocumentRoot09:03
Tonio_brexel: it is usefull to grab new deps added eventually...09:03
vgei mean, just remove the package09:03
mikeI'm sure I tried this once and it removed everything09:03
Tm_Tmike: so you can remove kubuntu-desktop package, you really don't need it09:03
Jarr3dso an example of that would be? /apache2/.....09:03
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Tm_Tmike: it doesn't contain anything09:03
brexelJarr3d: look in apache2.conf for DocumentRoot09:04
Jarr3dok09:04
mikeYes but I think the metapackage removes the whole desktop09:04
Tonio_Tm_T: it is very important to keep in memory to reinstall it while upgrading to a new distro version....09:04
brexelmike:  no09:04
Jarr3dand in kubuntu, what is populer for compileing webpages?09:04
Tm_TTonio_: nah09:04
brexelJarr3d: quanta is a graphical html editor09:04
vgeJarr3d: if you have installed apache2, try http://localhost09:05
Tonio_Tm_T: .... hum we don't share the same point of view on that point :)09:05
brexelJarr3d: but any text editor such as kedit or vim or emacs will do09:05
Tm_TTonio_: yes, regular user need it, I don't ;)09:05
Tonio_Tm_T: a personn that asks if he can remove it is certainly a regular user, or at list someone learning ;) I know you don't ^^09:06
Jarr3dlocal host works09:06
Jarr3dwhere can i get quanta?09:06
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Tonio_Jarr3d: adept or apt-get09:06
brexelJarr3d: sudo apt-get install quanta09:06
vgeif you like wysiwyg programs install nvu too09:06
Tm_TTonio_: aye, but, he asked if he can remove it, not should09:06
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Tonio_Tm_T: hehe, you're playing with words09:07
Tm_TTonio_: always ;)09:07
razvansoundcard configuration09:07
mikeIs there a package for starting/stopping services?09:07
brexelmike rcconf09:08
Tm_TTonio_: in my age it's most fun thing you can do with pants... and also without09:08
Tonio_Tm_T: interested in testing the kubuntu-desktop-settings I will submit for dapper ?09:08
vgetry CTRL+ESC09:08
Tm_TTonio_: hum, it prolly mess my settings, right?09:08
Tonio_nope09:08
Tm_Tok09:08
mikeI installed apache and mysql - need to start the daemons09:08
Tonio_it will not replace your specifics09:08
Tonio_just create a new user to look at what is done09:08
Jarr3dW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems09:09
Jarr3dE: Couldn't find package quanta09:09
Tm_TTonio_: ok, throw in and tell what need to test09:09
mikeqanta?09:09
brexel /etc/init.d/apache|mysql start|stop|restart09:09
mikeapache - I was looking for httpd!09:09
Tonio_Tm_T: I will write a changelog tomorow and let you know. it is not fully over yet09:09
Tonio_Jarr3d: did you activate universe repos ?09:10
Jarr3dmaybe not?09:10
Jarr3dhow?09:10
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leafwcan an ext2fs be converted to ext3fs easily ?09:10
Tm_TTonio_: ok, show changelog too ;)09:10
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brexelleafw: yes09:10
Tonio_Jarr3d: you really should have a look at the wiki, you'll get all informations you need to configure the package management correctly09:10
leafwbrexel : how09:10
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Tm_TTonio_: you would like to test Kopete 0.12 ?09:10
leafwmeaning, can I do that on top of the exisitng partition ?09:10
leafwwithout deleting it ?09:10
leafwpreserving all the data ?09:10
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Tonio_Tm_T: what's new ? I don't have much time for beta testing actually ;) although I generally like to09:10
Tonio_if the changelog is interesting, why not09:11
mikeThe system settings app is very buggy09:11
Jarr3dwhere do i look at the "wiki"?09:11
Tm_TTonio_: just a sec09:11
brexelhttp://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_ext2_to_ext309:11
leafwthank you!09:11
Jarr3dthankx09:11
brexelyw09:11
Tonio_Jarr3d: google : wiki + ubuntu or kubuntu...09:11
almienanyone know tricks to fix a broken apt-get?09:11
Tonio_archlinux wiki isn't for you :)09:11
brexeldoesn't matter ^^09:12
brexelalmien: how broken?09:12
leafwbrexel : what is 'Arch' ?09:12
Tm_TTonio_: biggest changes: http://kopete.kde.org/roadmap.php09:12
Tonio_Tm_T: looking09:12
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brexelleafw: dunno i just googled it up for you ^^09:12
leafw:)09:12
leafwI googled too, but I dint' come acrooss that09:12
brexel" Arch Linux is an i686-optimized linux distribution targeted at competent linux users (read: not afraid of the commandline)"09:13
brexeli googled for "convert ext2 to ext3"09:13
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Jarr3dok another question...my screen resolution will only go 640x480 and i have it at 1024/768 before09:13
brexel<-- too lazy to read the tune2fs manpage ^^09:13
almienbrexel: as in, it keeps complaining about something (unresolved dependancies in this case, but other things on other machines), then won't let you do anything to fix it because it encounters the original problem and quits before it gets around to applying the fix09:13
twinoatlhi09:13
brexelalmien: have u tried 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?09:13
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Tonio_Tm_T: interesting, but there is no killer feature that would make me stoping my actuall job ;)09:13
Tonio_send me the package and I promisse to test it this WE09:14
twinoatlI would like to know why buttons in web pages doesn't use the KDE theme (I use firefox)09:14
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Tm_TTonio_: heh09:14
brexeltwinoatl: because only konqueror does that09:14
Tonio_Tm_T: "please" of course ;)09:14
brexelfirefox is not affiliated with kde09:14
almienbrexel: definitely - followed those instructions that apt-get gave me. it just gives up09:14
Jarr3dBrexel? can i change the root folder to anyone i want?09:14
brexelJaRuKat: DocumentRoot? yes09:15
brexelalmien: paste the errors into http://kubuntu.pastebin.com and post the liunk pls09:15
twinoatlbrexel: I know that, but anyway, a software should use the system default skin automatically I think09:15
Tonio_Tm_T: did you do a package, or may I have to compile it from source ?09:15
brexeltwinoatl: kde != system09:15
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brexeltwinoatl: to the system kde is just some bunch of processes09:15
almienUhm, I can't paste anything, as my computer (my main development PC) now can't even boot into X09:16
almienbut I've got a sticky note:09:16
brexeltwinoatl: if you wish everything to look ioke kde you must use kde programs :)09:16
twinoatlbrexel: sure, but if I remember well, in Windows, if I set a background color in system seetings, lots of self made applications will have this background09:17
almiennew libofx2 error processing, as it would overwrite /usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl which is also in package libofx0c10209:17
Tonio_brexel: gtk apps are not so bad integrated with gtk_qt_engines09:17
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Tonio_gtk renders way better on kde than qt on gnome :)09:17
brexeltwinoatl: windows works pretty differently ^^09:17
brexelTonio_: i know09:17
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brexelTonio_: but html buttons are not gtk09:18
twinoatlbrexel: ok, thanks09:18
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Tonio_brexel: correct09:18
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Tm_TTonio_: package09:18
brexeltwinoatl: maybe you can find a firefox kde skin09:18
Tonio_Tm_T: nice ;) could you email me maybe ?09:18
vgehmm, are is the networking fixed in dapper allready?09:18
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Tm_TTonio_: about to start wrap up bit more polished packages09:18
twinoatlbrexel: firefox themes does never change the buttons in webpages09:18
Tonio_no pb, we will proceed to a package exchange at the same time then09:19
brexeltwinoatl: oh didn't know that ^^09:19
Tm_TTonio_: so, I'll give a link as soon as this is ready ;)09:19
twinoatlbrexel: strange, isn't it ?09:19
almienis a known problem on websites (ubuntu bugs), but the suggested fix is "remove gnucash" or "remove libofxw2" which of course, apt-get is refusing to do09:19
brexeltwinoatl: i admit i would have expected that09:20
twinoatlbrexel: why ?09:20
brexeltwinoatl: i  mean i would have expected that the buttons match as well09:20
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twinoatlbrexel: yes, it is logical09:21
hellsingmplayer give me an error : alsa-control unable to find pcm 009:21
hellsingdid somebody have ab idea?09:21
twinoatldo you know how I can preload firefox when I load kde ? I would like that when I close firefox, it stays in memory too so that the next start will be fast09:21
brexeltwinoatl: well programmatically it is understandable because the graphics toolkit doesnt need to have anything to do with page rendering09:21
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hellsingtwinoatl never close firefox09:22
brexelhellsing: seems your mplayer wants to use alsa but your soundcard support is configured with OSS09:22
hellsingit's will open it on next boot09:22
hellsingnon everithing is configure with lasa09:22
almienhmmm....09:22
twinoatlbrexel: a button is a button. It should not matter how it is displayed (web or gui)09:22
hellsingand i hve sond even with the error09:22
brexeltwinoatl: nope, because application buttons have different features than web page buttons09:23
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twinoatlbrexel: sure, but from a user point of view, it should not matter after all09:24
brexeltwinoatl: that's true ^^09:24
twinoatlbrexel: ok brexel, thanks for your help :-)09:24
brexelyw :)09:24
twinoatlthanks Kubuntu too :-) I had a debian box and I do not regret anything09:25
brexelfrom the desktop's point of view to me kubuntu is the better debian :)09:26
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almientoo many distros assume you won't want it09:27
brexelreally?09:27
skypawhat file is to be created to force a fsck on next reboot again?09:27
brexelwmaker is nice09:27
brexel /forcefsk09:27
brexeloh wait09:27
skypaty09:27
brexel*think*09:27
brexelyes :)09:28
brexelin /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh:    if [ -f /forcefsck ] 09:28
almienonce you find out that apt-cache search WindowMaker doesn't return any results because its package is called "wmaker"09:28
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skypaagain ty ^^09:28
brexelyw09:28
skypaI shouldn't have disabled the usual fsck in my fstab, now my journal is broken *sigh*09:29
brexelyou can just rebuild it if the data are ok09:29
brexel(tune2fs -j)09:29
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skypawhich switch removes the journal?09:30
skypaseeminly a prerequisite for creating one09:30
skypa+g09:30
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brexelskypa: not sure..i bet man tune2fs knows09:32
skypawell, I'm a little superstitious so I'll stick to the pre-boot fsck :)09:33
brexel^^09:33
brexeli must say i prefer xfs09:33
brexeli have twice had data loss with ext309:33
brexelnever with xfs so far09:33
MetaMorfoziSanybody know a good file manager?09:34
brexeland xfs is pretty fast09:34
MetaMorfoziSnot konqueror and not krusader?09:34
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brexelMetaMorfoziS: graphical or shell?09:34
thcHas someone managed to get opera running on a amd64? .. there are no amd64 packages, so i tried "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture opera_*_i386.deb" but it wont find libpng even tho its installed .. any ideas ?09:34
MetaMorfoziSkrusader is loading slow & crashes often09:34
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: bash09:34
MetaMorfoziSgraphical09:34
Tm_Tach09:34
MetaMorfoziSmc is the better in bash09:34
MetaMorfoziSach?09:34
Tm_Tnothing =)09:34
skypamh.. I think I might give xfs a try09:34
brexelhmm, nautilus?09:34
skypaext3 really bugs me lately09:34
ackWhy cant i copy and paste into /ext/apache2/ it denies me09:34
MetaMorfoziSnautilus is a filemanager?09:35
_tiberiusI'm still havin trouble makin Firefox work on a 64bit09:35
_tiberiusbut then again i'm a noob09:35
brexelskypa: we have lots of servers with ext3 in my company and no probs but for some reason i seem to have bad luck with it09:35
skypaack, you might wanna be root for that09:35
MetaMorfoziShmm nautilus is gnome based09:35
brexelyes MetaMorfoziS09:35
skypaor at least sudo09:35
ackskypa, how do i go root?09:35
skypaI second that brexel :p09:35
MetaMorfoziSand other?09:36
skypaopen a terminal ack, and type "kdesu konqueror".. that'll give you a rooty filemanager09:36
MetaMorfoziS(I'm isntall nautilus)09:36
MetaMorfoziSand other, or twin panel filemanager?09:36
skypabe careful with it though :>09:36
MetaMorfoziSlike totalcmd @ win?09:36
brexelMetaMorfoziS: nautilus/konqui...almost any filemanager can work with 2 panels09:37
brexelMetaMorfoziS: mc in a shell09:37
brexelstill the fastest thing ^^09:37
MetaMorfoziSkonqui howcan work in 2 panels?09:37
brexelor gmc if you want grafix09:37
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skypaand a good example that fast equals ugly quite often :p09:37
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i set it?09:37
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brexelright click at the bottom -> split view09:38
brexelor go to settings -> load view profile -> midnight commander09:38
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brexelkonqui is REALLY configurable09:38
Tallia1Kubuntusomeone of you can take a look here?09:39
brexelit can look and act like almost anything09:39
Tallia1Kubuntui don't understand why i can't execute the script09:39
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:7DgTeOPH5ucJ:www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/anim-2/OldFiles/models/scripts/obj2smf+obj2smf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=109:39
skypaalright, time for a mind numbing "y" spamming fsck session09:39
skypalaters09:39
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MetaMorfoziSI'm not found the load view profile09:40
ackhow do i start apache gain?09:40
brexelTallia1Kubuntu: what is that supposed to do?09:40
brexelack: apache2ctl start09:40
brexelMetaMorfoziS: then just use right click at the bottom ans split viwe09:41
brexelview09:41
leafwack : any service lives at /etc/init.d/09:42
leafwack : type sudo /etc/init.d/apache start  (or stop, or whatever)09:43
ackok cool09:43
MetaMorfoziShttp://metamorfozis.hu/p/vaze.png09:43
leafwsee whether you need apache or apache209:43
MetaMorfoziSi'm in the settings...09:43
leafwthey are different.09:43
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MetaMorfoziSthe rightclick at the bottom of the window, isn't work09:43
MetaMorfoziSno there any popup...09:43
brexeljust a sec09:43
MetaMorfoziSbut a little upper i have the default popupmenu09:44
MetaMorfoziSokay09:44
MetaMorfoziS!firefox09:44
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ackok, now... when i add my webpage to the root... do i need to change anything so it knows to open which one?09:45
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GullyFoyleWOOHOO! got ut2004 working!! 1 less reason to boot Winbloze!09:45
mikeIs it possible to import into kmail from thunderbird?09:45
MetaMorfoziSut2k4 is good09:45
MetaMorfoziSbut the dfault nvidia package is too old09:46
MetaMorfoziS7***09:46
MetaMorfoziSand the new is 81**09:46
pmwhy kde?09:46
GullyFoyleyeah but i'm afraid to mess  with a workinggame09:46
MetaMorfoziSi'm try to install the new version and it fucksup my x and crash all things09:46
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MetaMorfoziSso i'm reinstalled the full ubuntu @ 20minutes09:46
brexelMetaMorfoziS: http://www.qwuh.com/xx.jpg09:47
GullyFoyleMetaMorfoziS: what's the cmd to echo the driver version?09:47
brexel2 shots09:47
brexelhere it looks like this09:47
MetaMorfoziSi'm checked it in adept:)09:47
MetaMorfoziSbrexel -> check moment09:47
GullyFoyle7174 here09:47
brexel:)09:47
brexel~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version09:48
brexelNVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 12:58:54 PDT 200509:48
brexelGCC version:  gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)09:48
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brexelyou can find it in /proc even if u compiled it yourself09:48
_tiberiusanyone know how I can get the ATI Control panel working with the ATI proprietary drivers for a 64 system?09:48
MetaMorfoziSVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7667  Fri Jun 17 07:01:04 PDT 200509:48
MetaMorfoziSGCC version:  gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)09:48
MetaMorfoziSbrexel i havent this menus yet.09:48
ackok, now... when i add my webpage to the root... do i need to change anything so it knows to open which one?09:49
brexelhmm09:49
brexelMetaMorfoziS: which kde version09:49
GullyFoyleNVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-717409:49
MetaMorfoziS3.5.109:49
brexelMetaMorfoziS: might be these are some additional features?09:49
brexelkonq-plugins probably09:49
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i find?09:50
MetaMorfoziSkonq.org?09:50
MetaMorfoziSok go find09:50
brexelno it's a package09:50
MetaMorfoziSkonq-plugins : installed09:50
GullyFoylewhy should i upgrade driver if 'm not having probs?09:50
brexelhmm, sorry the i don't know why i have those menus and u dont :D09:51
MetaMorfoziSbecause the new driver is better in supporting the new cards09:51
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MetaMorfoziSbrexel: :D09:51
brexelwell, my .kde dir is YEARS old...maybe its because of that09:51
MetaMorfoziSVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7667  Fri Jun 17 07:01:04 PDT 200509:51
MetaMorfoziSGCC version:  gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)09:51
MetaMorfoziSshit09:51
MetaMorfoziSsry09:51
GullyFoylei have geforce 6600gt, will it improve performance?09:51
MetaMorfoziSi'm dont it want09:51
brexel:D09:52
MetaMorfoziSGullyFoyle: detto but not gt09:52
MetaMorfoziSi'm don't know but i thik.09:52
MetaMorfoziSnot laugh on my grammar:)09:52
brexel^^09:52
brexelwhere u from MetaMorfoziS09:52
MetaMorfoziSKonqplus add some function to context menu of konqueror.09:52
MetaMorfoziSthis package i wants!:)09:52
MetaMorfoziSI'm from hugnary:)09:52
brexelbig hello from vienna/austria09:53
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brexelneighbor ^^09:53
MetaMorfoziS:)09:53
MetaMorfoziSand where u from?09:53
brexelvienna :)09:53
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brexelaustria09:53
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wabblehas anyone tried dapper using different static ip's and network profiles on both wlan and wired eth cards? Does it work?09:53
djznIS THERE a GTK-QT-ENGINE package for kubuntu?09:54
almienhmmm... not too impressed with nvidia it seems09:54
MetaMorfoziSoh!09:54
GullyFoylenow i gottaget a good JRE, this gic Gnu thingy is cr**. should i use Blackdown or Sun? i was reading that on amd64 Sun's mozilla-plugin doesnt work but that might be a dated post i read.09:54
mikeDoes anything work in kubuntu and not crash? Konq, amarok, system settings, mysql manager.......09:54
MetaMorfoziSmy sister09:54
MetaMorfoziSlive in vienna09:54
mikeadept.....09:54
MetaMorfoziSwe meets she once a month09:54
brexelnice :)09:54
MetaMorfoziSshe has a 2years old boy:)09:54
brexelmike: you sure you don't have ardware probs? like memory?09:55
brexelbrexel: the only thing that sometimes crashes on me is juk...everything else is rock solid here09:55
mikeno problems with gnome + Fedora09:55
brexelhmm09:55
brexelthat's odd09:55
mikeI'll see if everythings up to date09:55
brexelMetaMorfoziS: sweet ^^09:55
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MetaMorfoziSbaah nautilus is tasty..09:57
brexel:)09:57
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brexelmaybe you're a gnome-guy09:57
bigmouthHello, anzbodz wiling to help me?09:58
MetaMorfoziSwhere can i set nautilus to twinpanel?:)09:58
bigmouthz=y09:58
GullyFoyledoesnt nautilus open a new window for every level of directory? and can you change that?09:58
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bigmouthI installed kubuntu on an "old" PC I'm going to give to a friend of mine.10:00
brexelGullyFoyle: that was a long time ago ^^10:00
bigmouthand I couldn't set up 3d accel on the graph card, an ATI Rage 12810:00
MetaMorfoziS!firefox1.510:00
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:00
andrehHi, I tried to install mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de under my Ubuntu Dapper but it failed because of a missing directory called /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/extensions, I created it but then it symlinked /var/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/extensions/installed-extensions.txt recursively on itself10:01
andrehof course installation failed and now I can't even remove the package again10:01
andrehso how do I get my dpkg working again?10:02
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brexeltry dpkg -r --force-all packagename10:02
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andrehno  that doesn't work10:02
andrehit just says post_removal exited with error code 110:02
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brexeldelete the pre, post, remove, install scripts of the package in /var/lib/dpkg/info10:03
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brexelor at least the postrm script10:04
andrehah thanks that did the work10:04
brexel:)10:04
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brexelyou think i can get kubuntu to pay me for that? :D10:04
andrehit seems that this package is somewhat broken10:04
brexeli'd like that10:04
MNOHi, does any one know why my videos are playing but theres no sound?10:05
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brexelMNO: that can have a lot of reasons...more info...which player, which desktop environment...does sound work at all?10:06
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MNOXMMS, KDE. Sound does work when playing mp3s10:06
benkong2every time i boot kubuntu kmix starts. How can I stop it?10:07
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brexelok, then you might need to configure xmms to use the artsd output plugin10:07
icicleddoes gnome release way too often or is it just me?10:07
brexeloh sorry MNO10:08
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brexeli misread that10:08
brexelwhich video player are you using?10:08
wabbleicicled: it's just you10:08
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brexelor are u using xmms as video player?10:09
icicledi thought it wasn't but a week or two ago that they released 2.12.210:09
icicledtoday 2.12.3 is out10:09
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Paradossohi, my kde 3.4.3 does not remember geometry-window specific settings that I set. I'm running kubuntu breezy. Any hints?10:15
brexelParadosso: what does that mean exactly?10:17
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_djznIS THERE a GTK-QT-ENGINE package for kubuntu?10:20
hollywoodbyou can set gtk apps to look like qt/kde apps in kcontrol (System Settings)10:20
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Paradossobrexel, I want an app to start fullscreen , ok10:20
ParadossoI go to window specific settings, specify the desired geometry10:21
Paradossothen I restart it, it starts over like the last time10:21
brexelhmm, sorry i have no experience with tah...10:21
brexelthat10:21
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trappistParadosso: you could try with kstart --maximize10:25
_tiberiusanyone know of some better audio drivers than those packaged with kubuntu?10:25
Paradossotrappist, that works10:26
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bhna_djzn: yes, gtk2-engines-gtk-qt10:28
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jahonhello all.  is there a way to used cached deb files from another directory?10:31
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brexeljahon: move them to /var/cache/apt/archives :)10:32
jahonbrexel:  do i need to tell synaptics or adept about the new changes?10:41
brexelno10:41
brexelthey will look for packages in this dir first...if they are there they will use them, if not they woll download them10:42
brexel*will10:42
brexel(assuming the versions are the correct ones)10:43
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btnWhen running - nm-applet, i get error: Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory 16x16/status16x16/stock/chart of theme gnome has no size field"10:46
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farousnm-applet that is network manager under gnome right10:47
btnyep10:47
farousi run it here with no problems but under gnome only10:47
farousnever used it with kde10:47
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btnic10:48
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farousbtn you might need to install some gtk themes though i do not know if it will work or not10:48
btnI've tried it on my normal ubuntu and gives the same error10:49
farous!networkmanager10:50
ubotuhmm... networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto10:50
farousfollow the link ^    ^10:50
btn??10:51
farousbtn the link given by ubout10:51
btnHow do you think I found out about it : )10:51
farousubotu10:51
jahonbrexel:  lol.  ok, coppying now.  and what about upgrading with ubuntu files instead of kubuntu files?  what is REAL difference in the 2 besides desktops?10:51
farousoh ok10:51
btnsays nothin about gtk error10:51
farousbtn and you are running breezy right10:52
btndapper actually10:52
farousbtn than i have no idea10:52
brexeljahon: nothing10:53
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brexeljahon: except kubuntu installs 'kubuntu-desktop' by default while ubuntu installs gnome10:53
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maverickhi all10:59
maverickany c++ coders in here?10:59
_tiberiusnot a very good one10:59
_tiberiuswow, these audio drivers are terrible11:00
SkrotFFSWhat's up with kwifimanager? It says I've got "Ultimate" signal strength, but it also says I have signal strength '53'. 53 is the same as from iwconfig where link quality = 53/100. How can 53/100 be "Ultimate"?11:00
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_tiberiusUltimate Strength, or ultimate connection?11:01
SkrotFFSIt only says "ULTIMATE" under the bars11:02
SkrotFFSthe tooltip says "the current signal strength"11:02
_tiberiushmmm11:03
SkrotFFSIf I use alternate strength calculation i only get 20 and "GOOD"11:03
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ackWhen using Apache in kubuntu is Apache2.conf where i configure my server?11:04
brexelif you use apache2 yes11:04
brexelif you use apache then it is /etc/apache/httpd.conf11:05
brexel(no capital A though)11:05
ackok11:05
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_tiberiusanyone here runnin an ATi card with dual screens?11:07
farous_tiberius: running fine here11:07
farousthere is a good howto on the forums though i used another one11:07
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_tiberiusfarous: I've got mine running11:08
_tiberiusI just wondered if you knew if it were possible to drag a window onto the second screen11:08
ackServerRoot "/etc/apache2" should i change that?11:08
_tiberiusso far my windows don't like to leave their monitor11:08
farousare you uising extended desktop or clone mode. I use the later now11:09
_tiberiusdon't know what i'm using11:09
farousdo you have the same view on both screens11:09
_tiberiusno11:09
_tiberiusso i must be using extended11:10
farousone desktop complete the other than11:10
_tiberiusum...i lost you11:10
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farous_tiberius: there are too many modes depnd on how you set it up11:11
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farousso one is when one desktop is just a completion (extention) of the other can be horizontal or vertical11:11
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NRG88how can i add languages to the keyboard?11:11
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_tiberiuswell mine are setup horizontal, and i can drag objects and files and such between them..but when i open an app on one desktop, i can't drag it to the other11:12
maverickanyone wanan chekc my c++11:13
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maverickporgrame?11:13
_tiberiuswhat kind of program is it?11:13
farous_tiberius: sorry have no exp with extended desktop11:13
maverickits a basic11:13
maverickwebsever11:13
mavericki made11:14
_tiberiusi'm even more basic than that11:14
maverickoh11:14
_tiberiusso i couldn't help you11:14
maverick:(11:14
mavericknp11:14
_tiberiusoh well, thanks anyway farous11:14
NRG88anyone know how can i add languages to the keyboard in kde?11:15
NRG88keyboard layout?11:16
_tiberiusno idea11:16
faroushoped i was of more help _tiberius11:16
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hollywoodbI'm trying to upgrade to kde 3.5.1, but apt-get keeps telling me juk will be held back, even with 'apt-get dist-upgrade'11:18
brexelhollywoodb: sudo apt-get install juk11:19
brexelit does that when it needs to uninstall something to upgrade another thnig11:20
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hollywoodbwould be nice if apt-get list packages to be upgraded/installed in a tree format to quickly identify this type of thing11:21
brexelyou can use aptitude or adept for such a thing i think11:22
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hollywoodbbrexel: adept justs lists the packages in alphabetical order, guess I'm not too familiar with aptitude yet11:24
maverick!pastebin11:24
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:24
brexelsry i never neede that feature yet i was just guessing one of these tools could provide that ^^11:25
maverickwas for me11:26
maverickhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/831811:26
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MNOIs it normal to have ~85 processes runnning?11:36
ackCan i use Kate to edit my .conf files?11:37
farous_awayMNO: you are barely running any processes11:37
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MNOSerious? Just that coming from Windows where I have 40 (and thats pushing it) 85 seems alot. doesnt it slow down the comp?11:38
Tm_Tnope11:38
tsdgeoswell, windows counts processes in a special and curious way11:38
Tm_Tand also, totally different kind of processes11:39
MNOLOL K thanks. Also is there any way to get the bin icon on the Desktop11:39
Tm_TI have 227 processes running atm11:39
brexel~ $ ps afx | wc -l11:39
brexel9711:39
MNOWow! Do you run it as a server or something?11:39
NRG88how can i add new keyboard layouts?11:40
NRG88languages to the keyboard?11:40
brexelon the conmtrol center11:40
farous_away106 and am not running anything actually just few progs11:40
brexelkde makes many processes11:40
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NRG88but i don't have anything in the Keyboard Model11:41
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ackThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apache2/apache2.conf.11:41
ackCheck that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.11:41
farous_awayMNO: if you are using as a desktop i do not recommend to run it as a server11:41
ackwhat does that mean?11:41
MNOfarous: Oh rite ok. One more thing (sorry im new) is a firewall required for linux? :/11:42
farous_awayMNO: linux have a built in firewall. you can get a front end for it if you wana firestarter or guarddog11:42
farous_awayMNO: firestarter is for beginners so is the one i recommend you use11:43
LeeJunFanMNO: that's like asking if it's required to lock your doors.11:43
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Xamlitsup all?11:43
MNOLOL I spose. thanks11:43
tsdgeosNRG88: kde 3.5.1 ?11:43
XamlitOkay... I'm truely a Linux newbie.11:44
NRG88yes11:44
NRG88kde 3.5.111:44
XamlitI am running Kubuntu Live CD11:44
Xamlitand its pretty fly.11:44
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LeeJunFanMNO: Don't run any services you don't really need, only run them when you need them, keep them up to date, for starters and the firewall becomes pretty unneeded.11:44
XamlitHow can I mount my HD from linux?11:44
tsdgeosNRG88: i think there's a bug about that that needs some symlinking to work, search for it on the web11:44
MNOLeeJunFan: How do I keep it up to date. Do I just run system update wizard. thx11:45
LeeJunFanMNO: yep. That's pretty much it.11:45
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MNOAwsome!11:45
XamlitI think I've found my new home11:46
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XamlitHey guys11:47
Xamlitcan I ask a question11:47
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XamlitI hate to be one of those annoying kids who comes into IRC and only asks questions11:47
Xamlitbut now once your on the other side of the fence11:47
Xamlitits different.11:47
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XamlitAnyone here?11:48
LeeJunFanXamlit: don't ask to ask, just ask. :)11:48
Xamlitah11:48
XamlitRight.11:48
MNOI agree Xamlit. Its hard to begin with :(11:48
XamlitOkay.. how do I mount my HardDrive.11:49
Xamlitfrom the Live CD11:49
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LeeJunFanXamlit: I'm not very experienced with the live CD but there should be a system icon on the taskbar, if you click that and then media it should be there.11:49
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XamlitOkay forget that... I'm just going to install Kubuntu on my HD11:50
XamlitOn that..11:50
Xamlitdoes it have a partition magic type program?11:50
Xamlitin the installation?11:50
LeeJunFanXamlit: if it's not there try opening konqueror and type "media:/" in location.11:50
farous_awayXamlit: live cd to see if your hardware is compatable. most of the stuff do not work you might try to mount it though11:50
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LeeJunFanXamlit: the install is text based, but pretty straightforward, do manual partitioning and you can resize your windows partitions from there, defrag first.11:51
XamlitIts a freshly formatted 120G11:51
XamlitOnly Windows installed11:51
Xamlitno other apps.11:51
LeeJunFanXamlit: is windows partitioned to use the whole 120?11:51
LeeJunFanXamlit: if so you need to shrink the fat or NTFS down so linux can make some linux filesystems on the drive.11:52
XamlitYeah it is.11:52
Xamlitcan I do that from the Install?11:52
LeeJunFanXamlit: so when you get to partitioning just choose the partition you want to resize and enter a new size, it will be resized to make unpartitioned space.11:52
XamlitWithout data loss?11:53
LeeJunFanThen the linux partitions can be created in the unpartitioned space.11:53
LeeJunFanXamlit: I've never lost data with it, but if it's important data you should back it up first.11:53
XamlitOkay then..11:53
XamlitI shoudl be back in about an hour then11:53
XamlitThanks all for the help.11:53
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sas171hi, i want to strip a long mp3 file in small parts, what software can i use?11:55
Setwinrar11:55
brexelor rar ^^11:56
farous_away1de11:56
Setbrexel, winrar just slipped out from me11:56
sas171he, and than listen to it on my mp3 player11:56
brexelkwave?11:56
brexeland then reencode?11:56
LeeJunFansas171: you want to split it into 3 smaller mp3's you mean?11:56
sas171LeeJunFan: yes11:57
sas171sry for my bad english11:57
LeeJunFansas171: there are a lot of apps that can probably do that if you search for sound edit with adept or something, I haven't done much audio editing and I forget what program I used when I did. But there are plenty.11:57
sas171ok, ill do that11:58
LeeJunFankwave is likely able to do that.11:58
sas171thanks11:58
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sas171but encoding takes to long, i have 3hours mp311:58
LeeJunFansas171: ouch, that is a bit much. Especially when you consider the space it takes as wave format to convert, edit, convert back.11:59
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sas171thats what im talking about12:00

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