[12:18] <djzn> hi...
[12:18] <djzn> i have a NTFS partition that stopped being visible to the user
[12:26] <jarr3d> hi
[12:27] <jarr3d> i have a few questions about Apache if anyone could help?
[12:27] <thc> hi can someone help me out in my struggle with my nforce4 and kde/alsa/oss and amarok ... i dont know whats the problem .. i installed the nvidia sound drivers but oss often stops working with wired noises, and alsa doesnt even get started or just stutters .. maybe someone can help?
[12:31] <brexel> jarr3d: what in particular?
[12:34] <jarr3d> all i have done is install it, i want to know how to start from there
[12:34] <brexel> apachectl start
[12:34] <brexel> (as root)
[12:34] <brexel> or with sudo
[12:35] <jarr3d> sudo: apachectl: command not found
[12:35] <brexel> apache or apache2?
[12:35] <jarr3d> 2
[12:36] <brexel> apache2ctl start
[12:36] <brexel> ^^
[12:36] <jarr3d> ok its already running
[12:36] <brexel> well type http://127.0.0.1/ in your browser ^^
[12:37] <jarr3d> yep its installed
[12:38] <jarr3d> where do i go from there?
[12:39] <neoncode> is it safe to update to KDE 3.5.1? I have KDE 3.5 right now but is it likey to break anything if i update(Via the apt repos)?
[12:39] <brexel> jarr3d: well...what do you wanna do? :)
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> neoncode: you have to ask yourself what kde 3.5.1 has that MIGHT be worth breaking your system over at this point. It will PROBABLY work though.
[12:41] <neoncode> LeeJunFan: I just like to update things when I can. If I install it and it fails can I go back easaly?
[12:41] <dark_suic> i DO have a problem in kde3.5.1
[12:41] <dark_suic> with k3b (and i'm not the only one with the same problem)
[12:41] <jarr3d> i want to set up a server and host my own site...
[12:41] <neoncode> dark_suic: What's that? What's up with it?
[12:41] <dark_suic> i can't burn CDs as k3b says that mkisofs fails
[12:42] <neoncode> !mkisofs
[12:42] <brexel> jarr3d: well you can already
[12:42] <ubotu> neoncode: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:42] <brexel> jarr3d: what's stopping you? :)
[12:42] <neoncode> What's mkisofs?
[12:42] <dark_suic> it may be mkisofs fault, but a friend of mine told me that he had the same error just after updating to kde3.5.1, the same as me
[12:42] <jarr3d> where do i start though
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> make iso filesystem
[12:42] <brexel> jarr3d: i'm not sure if i understand the problem ^^
[12:42] <dark_suic> neoncode, mkisofs is the program that k3b uses to burn cds
[12:43] <LeeJunFan> neoncode: going back isn't as easy as going forward, but it's doable.
[12:43] <brexel> just put your site on the server
[12:43] <brexel> or if you haven't done it yet write some html code ^^
[12:43] <neoncode> Is it still possible to burn via the command line or other tools?
[12:43] <jarr3d> and how do i put it on my server?
[12:43] <brexel> put it in the server's DocumentRoot
[12:44] <brexel> check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf for where that is
[12:44] <dark_suic> don't know, neoncode
[12:44] <dark_suic> haven't tested
[12:44] <neoncode> Meh. I guess I'll try it....
[12:44] <dark_suic> i hope someone here could give me some light over the blackened situation...
[12:44] <dark_suic> for all the rest, kde 3.5.1 is wonderfull ;)
[12:45] <dark_suic> neoncode, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will work better (or at least should :P)
[12:45] <neoncode> dark_suic: Too late... what does dist-updrade do?
[12:45] <hatake_kakashi> !dist-upgrade
[12:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[12:45] <brexel> neoncode: upgrade all installed packages to the newest possible version
[12:46] <jarr3d> Brexel: is there a program interface i can open for brexel?
[12:46] <jarr3d> apache
[12:46] <brexel> jarr3d: hmm?
[12:47] <brexel> jarr3d: vi :)
[12:47] <dark_suic> neoncode, dist-upgrade solves dependencies ;)
[12:47] <dark_suic> upgrade may leave packages retained due to dependencies problem
[12:47] <dark_suic> dist-upgrade won't
[12:47] <brexel> dark_suic: that is wrong. dist-upgrade upgrades all packages
[12:48] <neoncode> dark_suic: Oh well... If it f*ck's up i'll try dist-updrade (most likely from recovery mode as root...)
[12:48] <brexel> upgrade upgrades everything but libc, kernel and the like
[12:48] <jarr3d> I just started using kubuntu i dont know much, what i dont understand is , for apache, can i open it and change options in it like windows?
[12:48] <brexel> jarr3d: it is exactly the same as in windows
[12:48] <dark_suic> brexel, i said that from seeing a time in which i did upgrade (just added kde351 repo) and it retained lots of packages and dist-upgrade didn't...
[12:49] <brexel> jarr3d: just open apache2.conf with a text editor and change what you need changed
[12:49] <dark_suic> it could just be that some of the packages may be main lib ones and the other depended on them...
[12:49] <dark_suic> thanks for the explanation, btw :)
[12:49] <brexel> dark_suic: that is becaus upgrade refuses to upgrade critical packages like the kernel for example :)
[12:49] <brexel> yw :)
[12:50] <dark_suic> ok, ok, now i understand better :)
[12:50] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: btw, I had a recent dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, it still downloads the same package for the kernel that I'm using again
[12:51] <brexel> i bet it has a higher minor version number :)
[12:51] <hatake_kakashi> blah.. time for coffee
[12:51] <hatake_kakashi> nope, its exactly the same kernel, and I could not understand why does it need to do that
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> anyway, I might give 3.5.1 a go, seeing as how jumping from 3.4 to 3.5 had prevented me access to failsafe mode at X login
[12:53] <brexel> hatake_kakashi: i've never seen that happen and i've been using debian+debian like distros for 8 years now ^^
[12:53] <brexel> maybe your apt is fscked
[12:54] <hatake_kakashi> brexel: heh, that wouldn't be surprising
[12:54] <brexel> :D
[12:55] <hatake_kakashi> though, to be frank, it was jumping from hoary to breezy and then from there to 3.5
[12:55] <beefsprocket> could someone take a look at this error I get when compiling mythtv on kubuntu breezy 64bit? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/544176
[12:55] <brexel> mmx_gcc.cpp:254: error: cast from short int* to uint loses precision <-- this is a programming error
[12:56] <beefsprocket> hmm,
[12:56] <brexel> maybe an older version of the c++  compiler allowed that but you version doesn't
[12:56] <brexel> *your
[12:56] <beefsprocket> i used export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[12:56] <beefsprocket> should I try 3.3?
[12:56] <brexel> might help
[12:56] <beefsprocket> ok, thanks
[12:56] <brexel> yw
[12:56] <Hobbsee> hi all
[12:57] <beefsprocket> I get totally different errors with apt-get source mythtv, which is why I'm trying it myself
[12:57] <hatake_kakashi> Hobbsee: hi
[12:57] <Hobbsee> hey hatake_kakashi :)
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> brb
[12:58] <SuSE_UsER> Hey Does anyone here know of a free Turing compiler?
[01:03] <beefsprocket> brexel: still get the same error with 3.3
[01:03] <brexel> wait
[01:03] <beefsprocket> kk
[01:03] <brexel> this is a c++ compiler error
[01:03] <brexel> you need to use a different C++ compiler :)
[01:04] <beefsprocket> oh? not gcc then?
[01:04] <beefsprocket> lol
[01:04] <brexel> gcc = C compiler
[01:04] <djzn> which package is the x-headers
[01:04] <brexel> g++ = C++ compiler
[01:04] <beefsprocket> thanks for that
[01:04] <brexel> yw
[01:04] <brexel> djzn: xlibs-dev
[01:04] <brexel> :D
[01:05] <beefsprocket> so how to use export to set g++-3.4 then?
[01:06] <brexel> depends...you should be able to find that out with ./configure --help
[01:06] <thc> "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" i did that jsut a minute ago ;)
[01:06] <beefsprocket> thc: but I've been lead to believe that that is for c not for c++
[01:07] <beefsprocket> well then...
[01:07] <brexel> i'm not entirely certain though ^^
[01:08] <beefsprocket> hmm
[01:08] <brexel> but this: virtual void FIRFilterMMX::setCoefficients
[01:08] <brexel> is clearly C++
[01:08] <brexel> not C
[01:09] <beefsprocket> right because of the :: thing isn't it? I've never taken C or C++, what is that a constructor?
[01:09] <brexel> nope. FIRFilterMMX is the class name and setCoefficients is the method name
[01:10] <beefsprocket> ok, so setCoefficients is a method of the MMX class? like a subportion or something?
[01:10] <brexel> something like that yes
[01:10] <beefsprocket> not to get to into it of course
[01:10] <brexel> it says that setCoefficients is defined in the MMX class
[01:11] <beefsprocket> I see, so setCoefficneits inherits the properties of MMX class, while at the same time acting as its own sort of object or group of functions?
[01:12] <beefsprocket> could it be a class and have its own methods as well?
[01:12] <brexel> hmmm
[01:12] <brexel> no
[01:12] <brexel> method = function
[01:12] <jarr3d> how do i install limewire after downloading it
[01:12] <brexel> it's just a different name
[01:12] <beefsprocket> oh, ic
[01:13] <brexel> a class is just a collection of methods and variables
[01:13] <beefsprocket> learn something new every day here
[01:13] <brexel> :)
[01:15] <jarr3d> how do i install limewire after downloading it?
[01:15] <brexel> just execute the installer ^^
[01:15] <jarr3d> there isn't one? maybe i donwloaded the wrong version] 
[01:16] <brexel> what did u download?
[01:16] <jarr3d> linux rpm
[01:17] <brexel> kubuntu is not an rpm based distro
[01:17] <bimberi> !limewire
[01:17] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[01:17] <brexel> is there no .bin installer?
[01:17] <brexel> yeah or .sh :)
[01:18] <jarr3d> is frontwire better?
[01:18] <brexel> i just use amule, nicotine and bittorrent
[01:18] <brexel> dunno about frostwire
[01:18] <jarr3d> amule eh
[01:22] <NRG88> hi, what packages do i have to install for wine?
[01:22] <NRG88> wine and libwine ?
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> yes, mainly
[01:22] <brexel> just install wine, apt will do the rest
[01:23] <NRG88> but apt doesn't select libwine
[01:23] <brexel> if it needs it it will select it
[01:23] <brexel> that is the whole point of a package management system ^^
[01:24] <brexel> you can check the dependencies with apt-cache show wine
[01:24] <NRG88> next winecfg?
[01:25] <brexel> i like to use winesetuptk
[01:25] <brexel> it's graphical
[01:26] <brexel> dunno if it still exists though ^^
[01:26] <jarr3d> the .sh file doesn't do anything
[01:26] <brexel> been a while since i used wine
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> yeah I've used that when I was on RH8
[01:26] <NRG88> but that's a decent version, isn't it?
[01:26] <NRG88> i think somewhere around 0.7
[01:26] <brexel> jarr3d: you need to execute it ^^
[01:26] <brexel> make it executable and double click it
[01:27] <NRG88> i get the followin error in winecfg: wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000000 at address 0x7ec2313f (thread 0009), starting debugger...
[01:27] <NRG88> :?
[01:28] <NRG88> Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000000 in 32-bit code (0x7ec2313f).
[01:28] <NRG88> In 32 bit mode.
[01:28] <jarr3d> brexel, i really have no clue what i'm doing
[01:28] <brexel> sry i never used winecfg
[01:28] <NRG88> then winesetupk?
[01:28] <brexel> jarr3d: right click the .sh file, go to permissions, check the executable thingy and click ok
[01:28] <brexel> then double click the file and some gui installer should come up IIRC
[01:29] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: winesetuptk is in the repos, though I do not know which one, I have universe enabled
[01:29] <hatake_kakashi> !info winesetuptk
[01:29] <ubotu> winesetuptk: (Windows Emulator (Configuration and Setup Tool)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.7-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 820 kB, Installed size: 4120 kB
[01:29] <brexel> hey :D that is really nice
[01:30] <jarr3d> nothing...
[01:30] <NRG88> !info wine
[01:30] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[01:30] <edward0> omg kopete shows smily faces for irc wth!
[01:30] <brexel> JabberWokky: ok, open a shell, cd to where the .sh file is and type this
[01:30] <brexel> sh installer.sh
[01:30] <brexel> where installer.sh is the name of the file
[01:31] <edward0> have a problem with amarok using the amarok-xiine engine it plays a shoutcast stream but there is no sound :(
[01:32] <edward0> artsd is running and kde has sounds
[01:32] <brexel> shouldn't amarok also use the artsd sink then?
[01:32] <edward0> I dunno it said artsd for an engine sucks
[01:32] <edward0> so I removed it
[01:33] <brexel> well :) if you use arts you need to configure your apps to use arts
[01:33] <edward0> and kubuntu provides amarok-gstreamer,artsd,xine
[01:33] <brexel> once artsd sits on the sound card it might cause trouble for other non-arts processes to access the soundcard
[01:33] <edward0> brexel well the xine engine is configured to use arts
[01:33] <edward0> :D
[01:33] <brexel> [01:33]  <edward0> and kubuntu provides amarok-gstreamer,artsd,xine
[01:34] <edward0> yes
[01:34] <brexel> that sounds more like either xine or artsd
[01:34] <edward0> ?
[01:34] <brexel> amarok-xine - xine engine for the amaroK audio player
[01:34] <brexel> amarok-arts - aRts engine for the amaroK audio player
[01:34] <edward0> amarok-xine too
[01:34] <edward0> and gstreamer
[01:34] <edward0> :)
[01:34] <brexel> if you use artsd you should use amarok-arts and not amarok-xine
[01:34] <edward0> negative
[01:35] <brexel> because?
[01:35] <edward0> if you have amarok-xine installed click on Settings/Configure Amarok/Engine choose xine Engine
[01:35] <edward0> and it gives you the option for "Output plugin" to use arts
[01:35] <edward0> :)
[01:36] <brexel> have you tried using the amarok-arts package instead of the amarok-xine package yet?
[01:36] <edward0> no
[01:36] <edward0> arts for an engine sucks
[01:36] <brexel> i would try that
[01:36] <edward0> it does not work
[01:36] <edward0> :D
[01:37] <edward0> amarok crashes
[01:37] <edward0> lol
[01:37] <brexel> :D
[01:37] <brexel> i'm sure it works
[01:37] <edward0> no
[01:37] <edward0> I am sure it doesn't :)
[01:37] <brexel> it does here
[01:37] <edward0> it doesn't here :(
[01:37] <edward0> I tried playing a stream from playlists under "cool streams" and it just crashes
[01:38] <brexel> might be something else is sitting on your soundcard blocking it?
[01:38] <edward0> maybe for a wav or something it works
[01:38] <edward0> no
[01:38] <edward0> as I said artsd is running and kde has sound
[01:38] <edward0> when you just mentioned my nick kopete made some annoying jingle :D
[01:38] <brexel> :D
[01:39] <brexel> i still don't get why u use artsd for everything but xine for amarok
[01:39] <brexel> that seems error-prone
[01:39] <edward0> because kde uses artsd?
[01:39] <edward0> and kubuntu uses kde for desktop environment?
[01:39] <brexel> right ^^
[01:40] <brexel> as i said, here amarok-arts works fine
[01:40] <brexel> hmm
[01:40] <brexel> difficult to say what causes the problem
[01:40] <edward0> brexel: did you try a "cool stream" from amarok playlist?
[01:40] <edward0> or playing some local file?
[01:42] <brexel> just a sec i'm trying :)
[01:42] <brexel> amarok is a cpu hogging animal
[01:42] <edward0> yes
[01:43] <brexel> 1600 MHz here :/
[01:43] <edward0> but kde with amarok/qtcurve looks purty
[01:43] <edward0> no I have just reinstalled amarok-arts and it doesn't show up under engine
[01:43] <edward0> s
[01:44] <edward0> no/now
[01:45] <brexel> it works
[01:46] <edward0> :\
[01:46] <brexel> gstreamer engine + alsasink wors and gstreamer engine + artssink also works
[01:46] <brexel> http://64.236.34.196:80/stream/1048
[01:46] <brexel> this music sucks :D
[01:46] <edward0> lol
[01:47] <edward0> amarok needs a vlc engine :)
[01:47] <brexel> hehe
[01:47] <brexel> i prefer juk
[01:47] <brexel> it is slow too
[01:48] <brexel> but not as slow as amarok
[01:48] <edward0> slow?
[01:48] <brexel> yes
[01:48] <edward0> how is it slow?
[01:48] <brexel> as i said, i have only 160 0mhz
[01:48] <brexel> takes forever to start
[01:48] <brexel> and reacts really sloppy
[01:48] <edward0> 160mhz or 1600mhz?
[01:48] <brexel> 1600 sry
[01:48] <edward0> ugh
[01:49] <edward0> I've used vlc just fine on low eng machines
[01:49] <edward0> 600Mhz amds
[01:49] <edward0> :D
[01:49] <brexel> i have no probs with video
[01:49] <edward0> slow because your buffer is to low/high?
[01:49] <brexel> but i have about 50 GB mp3s on my fileserver
[01:50] <brexel> no, just the fileserver is old
[01:50] <brexel> and 1600 mhz isn't too fast ^^
[01:50] <edward0> it's fast enough
[01:51] <edward0> unless you want to play the latest and greatest games :D
[01:51] <brexel> hey i played quake4 just fine :)
[01:51] <edward0> lol you can play q4 just fine but say vlc is slow O_O
[01:51] <brexel> funny though that doom3 ran slower though it came out earlier
[01:51] <brexel> not vlc
[01:51] <brexel> i never said anything about vlc
[01:52] <brexel> i said amarok and juk are slow
[01:52] <brexel> i dont use vlc
[01:52] <edward0> yes amarok is slow
[01:52] <brexel> argh i gotta go to bed
[01:53] <edward0> it just crashed using xine engine now :(
[01:54] <brexel> either you have a different problem or xine just sucks
[01:54] <brexel> try gstreamer + artssink :) works fine here
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> I had a problem with xine, I later retraced the problem and found out that I needed to regen locales
[01:57] <brexel> <-- bed
[02:00] <swaits> generally, how stable is dapper3 ?
[02:03] <ace> hi all
[02:04] <ace> anyone experience with dpkg-buildpackage ?
[02:05] <trappist> so I followed the nvidia howto on the wiki, but glxinfo says extension GLX is missing, and Xorg.0.log says Failed to load GLX.  what's wrong?
[02:05] <trappist> !anyone
[02:05] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:05] <swaits> ok
[02:09] <ace> hello ubotu
[02:09] <ace> Thank you for the hint
[02:09] <ace> But I think I need a lot of descriotive words
[02:09] <ace> before I can explain my problem
[02:10] <ace> and I just don't want to bother anyone
[02:10] <ace> expecially if they never used dpkg-buildpackage and build their kernels
[02:10] <ace> with it
[02:11] <ace> Oh and now I am talking to a bot, too :-(
[02:12] <djzn> my KDE is simply changing the interface font every login...... why the fonts can't get fixed?
[02:20] <NRG88> why can't i run wine?
[02:20] <NRG88> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/nrg88/.wine'...
[02:20] <NRG88> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:35] <janusz> czesc jest ktos z polski ?
[02:38] <Nomad411> !sk
[02:38] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[02:38] <PCGUEST> Hello
[02:38] <bimberi> !pl
[02:38] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[02:39] <PCGUEST> I have a question about putting a Live Linux distro on my USB drive
[02:39] <PCGUEST> If i put a distro like Damn Small Linux on my USB drive, does the drive have to be dedicated to it, or can i have all of my other stuff on my USB drive with the live linux distro?
[02:41] <PCGUEST> I have a USB drive with a bunch of stuff on it, but i want to put DSL on it, but i dont know if i need to delete my stuff on my USB first, or if it will work and be able to keep my stuff
[02:45] <rempresent> where is a good spot to set up my new kubuntu system, something like ubuntuguide but for kde
[02:45] <rempresent> ?
[02:45] <hollywoodb> rempresent: kubuntu is simply ubuntu with kde packages instead of gnome... the guide should be the same except replace 'synaptic' with 'adept' and 'gedit' with 'kate', etc etc
[02:46] <rempresent> sweet
[02:49] <hollywoodb> rempresent: the guide is a bit gnome-centric, some apps will have gnomish dependencies, but if you don't mind having them on your system then no worries
[02:51] <rempresent> where do most people go to optimize or trim down their KDE
[02:52] <hollywoodb> rempresent: the default kubuntu kde is already pretty trimmed down, what do you mean?
[02:53] <rempresent> like i want to get my system up to date, get universal repositories, and then get vlc with all the necessary files
[02:53] <rempresent> things like that.... most of what is featured on ubuntuguide
[02:54] <hollywoodb> rempresent: well, 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' will get you up to date... you can just uncomment the necessary lines in /etc/apt/sources.list to add universe repositories
[02:54] <hollywoodb> not sure about vlc
[02:54] <robotgeek> hollywoodb: one sec, i have link for you
[02:56] <robotgeek> sorry, rempresent http://kudos.berlios.de/
[02:56] <robotgeek> if you have any questions, just ask
[02:56] <rempresent> rockin..
[02:57] <rempresent> thanks robot, this will help tons
[02:57] <ace> dpkg-buildpackage give me an error
[02:58] <ace> is makes the kernel-image but not the modules
[03:01] <djk_> what's the latest version of kcalc?
[03:02] <Hobbsee> djk_: Version: 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu1
[03:06] <djk_> Hobbsee: right, but what version is that? 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 is 1.8.1
[03:07] <Hobbsee> not sure sorry
[03:07] <djk_> Hobbsee: thanks anyway
[03:32] <HeavyDc223> has anyone in here succeeded in getting a modem working in kubuntu?
[03:33] <HeavyDc223> or is it completely impossible
[03:33] <sybesis> can someone help me
[03:34] <Hobbsee> !tell sybesis about anyone
[03:34] <sybesis> i got problem using ndiswrapper for wifi or just configuring my wifi
[03:35] <sybesis> my wifi worked on fedora core 4 so it should work on kubuntu
[03:35] <Hobbsee> i've just been setting up wireless hehe...
[03:35] <Hobbsee> yep, how far have you gotten?
[03:35] <sybesis> ndiswrapper installed
[03:35] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:35] <sybesis> i did install the driver ...
[03:36] <sybesis> driver present,hardware present
[03:36] <Hobbsee> so ndiswrapper -l shows driver present, hardware present?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:36] <Hobbsee> then what have you tried?
[03:36] <sybesis> when i type iwconfig i see some iformation
[03:36] <sybesis> but there is no access point
[03:37] <sybesis> i cant go in graphical mode to configure my wifi
[03:37] <Hobbsee> sybesis: iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:37] <sybesis> i'm lost with kde
[03:37] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah, i did mine mostly by CLI
[03:37] <Hobbsee> sybesis: when you do the iwlist wlan0 scan, does it come up with a network?
[03:38] <sybesis> i dont know
[03:38] <sybesis> i'm on winxp because i dont have cable connexion
[03:38] <Hobbsee> sybesis: do you have an ethernet connection there at all?
[03:38] <Hobbsee> ah ok, on dialup?
[03:39] <sybesis> no i'm actually on wireless
[03:39] <Hobbsee> you'll want to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:39] <sybesis> but on windows
[03:39] <Hobbsee> ah...i see...
[03:39] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:39] <Hobbsee> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiTroubleshooting
[03:39] <sybesis> i have a dual boot
[03:40] <Hobbsee> and the ndiswrapper howto, which i seem to have lost
[03:40] <Hobbsee> yep, i understand what you're on
[03:40] <sybesis> on the first link it show the things about the card in wlan0 but for me its ra0
[03:40] <Hobbsee> you're on breezy, i presume?
[03:40] <jarr3d> where can i download amule for kde?
[03:40] <Hobbsee> then substitue ra0 where it says wlan0
[03:41] <sybesis> so it will be iwlist ra0 scan?
[03:41] <Hobbsee> yep
[03:41] <sybesis> ok i see
[03:41] <Hobbsee> that will find your network
[03:41] <sybesis> i hope
[03:41] <LeeJunFan> New notebooks for everyone in the channel if I win $88million mega millions tonight :p
[03:41] <evilh> jarr3d: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/amule
[03:41] <LeeJunFan> :)
[03:41] <Hobbsee> then if it's there, but not set in iwconfig, do a sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid networkname
[03:41] <sybesis> i'll be back in few minutes i'll try that
[03:41] <sybesis> ok
[03:43] <evilh> LeeJunFan: ill take one of those Core Duo macs if you win lol :)
[03:43] <endo602> anyone here know of a microsoft onenote alternative for kde?
[03:43] <jarr3d> thank you
[03:44] <jarr3d> which one do i download?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: sounds good
[03:45] <evilh> jarr3d: don't know i just googled it and found that site. sorry
[03:45] <jarr3d> ok
[03:46] <endo602> is there anything like microsoft onenote for kde.  or any note taking programs (for lectures) for kde?
[03:46] <Hobbsee> jarr3d: you're on an i386 machine?
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> okay, I saved the /who list so I can make good on that :)
[03:46] <Hobbsee> endo602: um, yes there are....basket is quite good
[03:46] <Hobbsee> and there's another one
[03:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:47] <endo602> which?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> endo602: kjots or basket
[03:47] <endo602> are they intense like onenote?
[03:47] <jarr3d> Hobbsee? i dont know
[03:47] <Hobbsee> dont know, only tried basket, and i've never tried one note
[03:48] <Hobbsee> jarr3d: type uname -a in a terminal
[03:48] <jarr3d> I686
[03:48] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:48] <endo602> the description doesnt sound anything like you just described
[03:49] <evilh> jarr3d: that site i gave you is down so you'll have to hunt down a mirror
[03:49] <jarr3d> i noticed
[03:49] <evilh> jarr3d: sorry was supposed to be up this week should have checked first
[03:50] <Hobbsee> jarr3d: grabbing the one you need...
[03:50] <jarr3d> k
[03:50] <Hobbsee> nah, just navigate the ftp site..
[03:51] <Hobbsee> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule_2.1.0-1_i386.deb
[03:51] <Hobbsee> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule-daemon_2.1.0-1_i386.deb
[03:51] <Hobbsee> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule-common_2.1.0-1_i386.deb
[03:51] <Hobbsee> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/ is where you can see it all
[03:53] <jarr3d> The utility ar is not in your PATH.
[03:53] <jarr3d> Please install it or contact your system administrator.
[03:53] <jarr3d> thats what it says twhen i try and run it
[03:54] <Hobbsee> why do you need ar?
[03:54] <jarr3d> i dont know? WHEN I CLICK IT THAT HAPPENS
[03:54] <jarr3d> oops
[03:54] <jarr3d> sorrys caps
[03:54] <endo602> how do  i disable the caps lock key for good?
[03:56] <HeavyDc223> pliers
[03:56] <Hobbsee> ah, use wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/amule/amule_2.1.0-1_i386.deb
[03:57] <Hobbsee> and stick wget in front of all the other links
[03:57] <neoncode> Hey I just noticed. In kopete the names of my contacts had dissipered but since I updated to KDE 3.5.1 they came back... has that bug been fixed?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> neoncode: say what?
[03:58] <jarr3d> i need em all?
[04:00] <HeavyDc223> anyone in here gotten a modem to work in kubuntu?
[04:00] <neoncode> Hobbsee: Their seemed to be a bug in my kopete when I had KDE 3.5.0 - as in it did not display the names of my contacts. But since I upgraded to KDE 3.5.1 it now shows them again.
[04:00] <Sybesis> heya
[04:00] <Hobbsee> hmm
[04:00] <Hobbsee> hi Sybesis
[04:00] <HeavyDc223> wb
[04:00] <Sybesis> Strangely ra0 turned to wlan0
[04:01] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:01] <Sybesis> its may be because of the trick i did for the startup that load ndiswrapper
[04:01] <Sybesis> anyway... i get my wifi scanning the air. It detect my router
[04:01] <Hobbsee> could be, i'm not sure why
[04:01] <Hobbsee> oh well
[04:01] <Hobbsee> yep, and?
[04:02] <Sybesis> but it dont go on internet lol
[04:02] <Sybesis> everything look to work fine but internet dont work
[04:02] <HeavyDc223> can u ping?
[04:02] <Sybesis> nope
[04:03] <Sybesis> actually i can just ping 127.0.0.1
[04:03] <HeavyDc223> may be your router
[04:03] <Sybesis> arr it worked with fedora4 so it should work ?
[04:03] <s4nt> hi
[04:04] <evilh> hi
[04:04] <Sybesis> why the router could detect fedora4 and not kubuntu
[04:04] <HeavyDc223> that doesnt mean anything, my modem worked with RH from 9 on
[04:05] <HeavyDc223> kubuntu has no networking capacity
[04:05] <HeavyDc223> as far as I can tell
[04:05] <Sybesis> i installed ndiswrapper the same i used on fedora
[04:06] <HeavyDc223> if its an rpm, alien may have messed something up
[04:07] <Sybesis> anyway if i can detect the routeur with my computer why would it not connect to internet
[04:08] <Sybesis> no it isnt an rpm
[04:08] <robotgeek> Sybesis: what wireless card is it?
[04:08] <Sybesis> wmp54g
[04:08] <Sybesis> linksys
[04:09] <Sybesis> rt2500 for the drivers
[04:09] <robotgeek> Sybesis: why do you need ndiswrapper, the drivers should already be there in the kernel
[04:09] <Sybesis> seriously?
[04:10] <Sybesis> where
[04:10] <robotgeek> Sybesis: yes, and that's why you have it as ra0
[04:10] <robotgeek> sudo modprobe rt2500 (are u on breezy?)
[04:10] <Sybesis> yup
[04:11] <Sybesis> so if i uninstall ndiswrapper it should work by doing this thing
[04:11] <robotgeek> Sybesis: yes, and since i use the same card, i can help you :)
[04:12] <Sybesis> ah well cool :P
[04:13] <Sybesis> i'll be right back
[04:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[04:40] <robotgeek> hi Tallia1Kubuntu
[04:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use mplayer to play my video, but sometimes some short clips are reproduced not continuosly
[04:41] <robotgeek> no clue
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> while with big movies i have no problems
[04:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> have you ever used it?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you check whilch video output do you use?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use XV since it allows fullscreen..
[04:42] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: x11 doesn't?
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me try
[04:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[04:43] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: try to have zoom = yes and see if works
[04:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> x11 seems to be a little better but i am not sure
[04:44] <robotgeek> hmm, okay
[04:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> where i set that zoom property?
[04:45] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, i think
[04:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the audio has the same problem
[04:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> couldn't that be an audio problem?
[04:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[04:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i just tried nosound and that was the problem
[04:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so, let me change the question.. which audio plugin do you use?
[04:46] <robotgeek> hmm, i am not sure Tallia1Kubuntu , i don't use it that much
[04:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it was the audio, i am telling you ^__^
[04:46] <sybesis> well back
[04:47] <robotgeek> hmm, sybesis tell me
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hi again sybesis
[04:48] <Hobbsee> how'd it go?
[04:48] <sybesis> it seem to detect the card
[04:48] <sybesis> but it dont scan anything
[04:48] <sybesis> so i assume i have something to configure
[04:48] <robotgeek> sybesis: sudo iwlist scan ra0
[04:48] <sybesis> ra0:no result
[04:49] <sybesis> the frequency is at 2.47 ghz i think or something like that
[04:49] <robotgeek> sorry, it's sudo iwlist ra0 scan
[04:50] <sybesis> ra0: no result thats what i get
[04:51] <sybesis> "ra0: no result"
[04:51] <robotgeek> sybesis: hmm, one sec
[04:53] <Hobbsee> and it's definetly coming up as ra0?
[04:53] <robotgeek> sybesis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500
[04:54] <sybesis> yes because i uninstalled ndiswrapper
[04:54] <robotgeek> yeah, type iwconfig
[04:54] <robotgeek> "iwconfig"
[04:54] <robotgeek> you will see if ra0 is up?
[04:56] <sybesis> when i type that there is something about my card but it dont show access point and things i saw with wlan0
[04:56] <sybesis> is that normal that some of the thing are missing
[04:56] <robotgeek> sybesis: yes.
[04:56] <robotgeek> is your ethernet card up?
[04:57] <sybesis> it should not be up as i dont use eth0
[04:58] <sybesis> i'm too far from the router to use cable so thats why i use wifi
[04:58] <robotgeek> sybesis: okay, let me upload you a nice script from which you can try
[04:58] <sybesis> ok
[05:02] <robotgeek> sybesis: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/wireless.sh
[05:02] <SoBeIcedT> i just installed kubuntu and i cant su to root
[05:02] <SoBeIcedT> i never set a password for it
[05:02] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell SoBeIcedT about sudo
[05:03] <SoBeIcedT> lol, i guess you get that one alot then
[05:03] <SoBeIcedT> thanks
[05:03] <B1zz> how do i change read and write permisions to a drive, for a normal user?
[05:03] <Hobbsee_away> B1zz: man chmod
[05:04] <sybesis> ok well robotgeek i'll be right back
[05:04] <robotgeek> B1zz: also right clicking works
[05:04] <sybesis> if all work i'll be back on kubuntu :P
[05:04] <robotgeek> however, you need a root konqueror
[05:04] <B1zz> uhh but i am not root, so it will not let me
[05:04] <robotgeek> sybesis: make sure
[05:04] <B1zz> hehe yeah
[05:05] <robotgeek> that you change the essid and wep (if you have one set)
[05:09] <evilh> is KDE a system resource hog?
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> evilh: define resource hog? if you run it on a machine with less than 256M of ram and a 233MHZ processor I guess yeah.
[05:10] <evilh> well im running it on a 2.7ghz celeron with a gig of pc2700
[05:10] <evilh> and cpu usage sits at 40% at idle
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> evilh: there are plenty of things to turn off (eye candy wize) to tone down it's hogginess.
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> evilh: do you know what process is using CPU?
[05:11] <evilh> no
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> evilh: run top in shell
[05:12] <evilh> xorg
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> evilh: likely some application is writing to the desktop regularly causing that, are you running any apps that have constant changes to display? like superkaramba or something?
[05:13] <evilh> no
[05:14] <evilh> all i usually have running is firefox, gaim and konverastion
[05:14] <jose> can someone help me? i can't uninstall a broken deb package.
[05:14] <robotgeek> jose: what's broken, and what did you do?
[05:15] <evilh> LeeJunFan: how accurate is Ksys Guard at reporting resource usage
[05:15] <evilh> LeeJunFan: cause what top is reporting and what KsysGuard was reporting are radically different
[05:15] <jose> i tried to install drivers for my video card, but the installation didn't work, besides i can't uninstall them
[05:15] <LeeJunFan> evilh: I dunno, don't use it myself. does firefox have any pages loaded with active animations or flash?
[05:16] <evilh> nope. i have it set to start with a blank page but it still takes a good 20 seconds to almost a minute to load
[05:16] <dr_wu> evilh- any cron jobs running? that could do it too..
[05:16] <evilh> dr_wu: i dont even know what those are so I would assume no
[05:17] <jose> robotgeek, it says the package is in a bad state or inconsistent. you must reinstall it before trying to uninstall it.
[05:18] <robotgeek> jose: did dpkg fail or something while installing?
[05:18] <jose> yes
[05:18] <robotgeek> jose: then "sudo dpkg --remove <pakage>"
[05:19] <jose> same problem
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> evilh: top is going to be your more accurate mesure of resource use.
[05:20] <evilh> LeeJunFan: thats good cause I am liking the numbers its reporting. they seem more accurate to me
[05:20] <jose> robotgeek, i'm still getting the same problem
[05:20] <SoBeIcedT> i just installed kubuntu and want to get kdevelop, i tried "apt-get install kdevelop" and i get a package not found error, tried googling but cant find what im doing wrong
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> evilh: xorg is using about 8% cpu on my system with a amd 3400 1G ram. My cpu is running only at 800mhz now too.
[05:20] <robotgeek> hmm, jose i am lost
[05:21] <jose> ...
[05:21] <jose> besides, that doesn't let me install anything else from apt-get or adept or kpackage
[05:21] <evilh> LeeJunFan: that is about what mine is running at. is KDE just a slow UI. seems like things should load and start a lot quicker than they do
[05:21] <jose> anyone else? please
[05:22] <SoBeIcedT> anyone have any idea waht im ding wrong, i just installed kubuntu, moved from gentoo
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> evilh: well it's a full feature environment, more features == it's got more to load. It's a trade off, but one normally well worth it on a desktop system.
[05:23] <jose> SoBeIcedT, i believe you have to edit sources.list
[05:23] <SoBeIcedT> hmm okay
[05:23] <SoBeIcedT> where would i find taht file
[05:23] <evilh> LeeJunFan: i'm on a laptop so thats probably not helping.
[05:24] <jose> sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> evilh: so am I but one thing that WILL make a big difference is your HD speed, I payed extra money and got the 7200 RPM drive most laptops are 4600 or 5200RPM.
[05:24] <robotgeek> !kdesu
[05:24] <ubotu> kdesu is, like, totally, :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[05:25] <SoBeIcedT> ok
[05:25] <evilh> *evilh smacks head
[05:25] <evilh> LeeJunFan: im retarded. i forgot that DMA isn't on by default
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> evilh: open a shell and run 'sudo hdparm /dev/hda' and make sure DMA is on.
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> heheh
[05:25] <SoBeIcedT> what is the univers repository
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> evilh: and IO support should be 32 bit of some sort too.
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> evilh: usually ubuntu turns on DMA by default.
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> I didn't have to tweak mine at all.
[05:26] <jose> deb http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:26] <jose> deb-src http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[05:26] <evilh> LeeJunFan: DMA was off. how do I set it to always be on
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> !dma
[05:27] <evilh> and how do i change IO to 32
[05:27] <jose> SoBeIcedT, maybe you just have to uncomment those lines
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> dammit that didn't come to channel
[05:27] <SoBeIcedT> i did
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> evilh: man hdparm
[05:27] <SoBeIcedT> here is what i get
[05:27] <hatake_kakashi> ubotu is here
[05:27] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hatake_kakashi
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> !dma
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> !about hdparm
[05:28] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:28] <SoBeIcedT> package kdevelop unavailable but is referred to by another package
[05:28] <evilh> theres ubotu
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> hatake_kakashi: I msg'ed it so ubotu told him.
[05:28] <hatake_kakashi> LeeJunFan: ahh ok
[05:29] <SoBeIcedT> apt-get kdesdk
[05:29] <SoBeIcedT> tahts what i need
[05:29] <SoBeIcedT> it asks me to put the dvd back in when  i do that
[05:30] <SoBeIcedT> is there a way it would download from the net?
[05:31] <Bicchi> does anyone experiences a lot of window drag when moving windows around the screen? I have an ATI Radeon 9800 w/ 128MB
[05:31] <jose> well, i really wouldn't know
[05:32] <jose> i actually a newbie. try searching for repos on the web
[05:32] <robotgeek> jose: you can also try asking in #ubuntu about your problem
[05:32] <SoBeIcedT> i got it i think, had to comment out the line at the top of sources.list that had the cd liste
[05:32] <SoBeIcedT> d
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> Bicchi: not here, same setup.
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> Bicchi: you using any of the kde "special" composite crap like transparency and stuff?
[05:34] <Bicchi> LeeJunFan: Could it be because i have a dual monitor
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> Bicchi: maybe, I've never done dual monitor myself.
[05:34] <Bicchi> LeeJunFan: nope. i am not even using the restricted drivers
[05:34] <egibbs> rosemary: thanks
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> Bicchi: yeah, me either. Perhaps they would help out with dual monitors though.
[05:35] <Bicchi> LeeJunFan: so your windows refresh at a good speed and you do not see any drag. like a trail of windows falling behind.
[05:41] <sybesis> heya lol
[05:42] <Hobbsee> heya again sybesis
[05:42] <Hobbsee> any more luck?
[05:42] <sybesis> robotgeek thx for your script... i made some modification to it as i dont have eth1 and now it connect to the router without ndiswrapper
[05:42] <sybesis> but i end at the same result no internet connection hahaha
[05:43] <robotgeek> sybesis: are you able to ping your router?
[05:43] <sybesis> it may be something to configure with the proxy?
[05:43] <sybesis> nop
[05:43] <evilh> i try to do sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf and it doesnt work
[05:43] <sybesis> i'm scanning his mac address
[05:43] <sybesis> i connect to his mac address but i cant ping it
[05:43] <sybesis> thats pretty weird
[05:44] <sybesis> as i know the router's ip is 192.168.0.1
[05:44] <hatake_kakashi> wtf, connecting to mac address? you meant ip address? :P
[05:45] <sybesis> i scan his mac address sorry
[05:45] <sybesis> so if my computer can find the mac address of the router there is probably a link somewhere?
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> it finds it via ARP, and the router has a arp table
[05:46] <Hobbsee> sybesis: do you get an IP address at all?
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> s/a/an
[05:46] <sybesis> no
[05:46] <Hobbsee> tried sudo dhclient awhatsit0?
[05:47] <sybesis> was it in the script?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> not sure - i didnt see it
[05:47] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: http://robotgeek.no-ip.info/wireless.sh
[05:48] <sybesis> it seem to not be there
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> sybesis: check to see if the router has dhcpd running and configured
[05:48] <sybesis> how do i do that
[05:48] <Hobbsee> ah yeah, it does
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> sybesis: setup static IP and point the gateway to the router
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> ifconfig eth0 ip.ip.ip.ip && route add default gw ip.ip.ip.ip
[05:49] <sybesis> The DI-524 can be setup as a DHCP Server to distribute IP addresses to the LAN network.
[05:49] <sybesis> that
[05:49] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[05:49] <robotgeek> sybesis: i also have the identifcal router :)
[05:50] <sybesis> lol
[05:50] <sybesis> it came with a dwl g122
[05:50] <robotgeek> sybesis: is yours a Belkin card by any chance, lol
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> I have DI-704P :p
[05:50] <sybesis> nop linksys
[05:51] <sybesis> so the command that hobbsee said is asking for Ip?
[05:51] <hatake_kakashi> yes, dhclient eth0
[05:51] <Hobbsee> sudo dhclient?  yeah
[05:52] <sybesis> k cool i'll try that
[05:52] <sybesis> brb
[05:53] <hatake_kakashi> any of you got 704P?
[06:30] <sybesis> it dont work :(
[06:30] <sybesis> anyway i need to sleep.
[06:31] <edward0> I have amarok working again with arts :)
[06:32] <sybesis> i'll be there tomorow. so then good night guys ant thx robotgeek and Hobbsee
[06:32] <sybesis> cya later guys
[06:32] <edward0> bye
[06:32] <Hobbsee> cya sybesis
[06:32] <edward0> bye
[06:33] <robotgeek> sybesis: later
[06:35] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: do you know if firefox is installed by default on dapper kubuntu?
[06:36] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: it's not
[06:36] <robotgeek> hm, i did not realise kkathman asked you :)
[06:37] <kkathman> I did robotgeek
[06:37] <kkathman> just trying all the resources I can
[06:37] <kkathman> didnt want to bug everyone..
[06:37] <robotgeek> same here :)
[06:52] <rosemary> what do people use to upload photos?  Camera is recognised but can';t figure out how upload the photos
[07:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hola
[07:57] <skynetAdmin> hello
[07:58] <rich0rd> hoi
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i play a *.mov file in linux?
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mplayer seems to reject it
[08:01] <viviersf> erm
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[08:01] <viviersf> Tallia1Kubuntu, install quicktime
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow! there's quicktime?
[08:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there*
[08:02] <viviersf> yar
[08:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[08:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i will.. :) tnx
[08:02] <viviersf> or quicktime codecs
[08:03] <viviersf> there is realplayer aswell just incase you wanna play .rm files
[08:03] <jocko> there is no official quicktime player for linux
[08:03] <jocko> but mplayer plays quicktime
[08:03] <viviersf> jocko,
[08:03] <viviersf> IF
[08:04] <viviersf> you install quicktime codecs
[08:04] <jocko> yes
[08:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jocko: i tried.. but i can't play it
[08:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> quicktime codecs?
[08:05] <jocko> do you have w32codecs installed
[08:05] <viviersf> do you have w32codecs installed ?
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think so
[08:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i copied some dll long time ago.. and i can play basically whatever i want till now
[08:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> viviersf: is that what you mean?
[08:13] <viviersf> Tallia1Kubuntu,
[08:13] <viviersf> add mutliverse to your repositories
[08:14] <viviersf> and install w32codecs
[08:19] <progreso> hi all... can anyone please help me i cant mount my floppy disk
[08:26] <staqen> i have a caricature picture of allah: is there any way to encrypt it and save it on a cd?
[08:26] <staqen> simple way, that is
[08:28] <rich0rd> i think what you talk off is mohammed  - the prophet of allah
[08:28] <staqen> rich0rd: mahomet is almost worhipped, too, so... whatever :)
[08:28] <rich0rd> and i don't think the kind of picture matters, just ask how to encrypt an image
[08:28] <staqen> but... is there an easy way to do it?
[08:29] <rich0rd> you could write your own xor encryption
[08:29] <rich0rd> zip it with a password ...
[08:29] <staqen> rich0rd: i already asked that and they told me hiding pirated material is off-topic
[08:29] <rich0rd> there are a lot of ways
[08:35] <GullyFoyle> how do i uninstall this half-baked GNU gij and install a real JVM?
[08:40] <robitaille> GullyFoyle,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:47] <Pulchi> hello, do I need drivers to get everything to work in kubuntu? and do I need to have FAT32 or can I go with NTFS?
[08:49] <rich0rd> drivers are kernel modules
[08:49] <rich0rd> fat32 will work better, but i do not know the state of the art with the NTFS drivers
[08:49] <rich0rd> to install kubuntu use a linux file system
[08:50] <rich0rd> if you want to exchange data between a linux and a windows installation try fat32 or a linux fs - because there are drivers for windows for some of them
[08:50] <jarr3d> hi, whats the command to check how much memorey i have
[08:50] <jarr3d> memory
[08:52] <jarr3d> anyone?
[08:54] <jarr3d> hi, whats the command to check how much memory i have
[09:02] <jocko> jarr try top
[09:03] <jarr3d> top?
[09:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> SOMEONE can tell andrea about multivers reps?
[09:12] <jocko> !multiverse
[09:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !eheh
[09:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[09:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Dapper is the new one?
[09:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !Dapper
[09:14] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.
[09:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[09:16] <praveen> hello
[09:16] <praveen> help'
[09:16] <praveen> help
[09:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[09:16] <praveen> hello i am new to IRC
[09:16] <praveen> plz bear with me
[09:16] <praveen> :D
[09:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> start writing less lines :)
[09:17] <praveen> i have primarily come here to get some problems solved ;)
[09:17] <praveen> the basic thing being sound not played
[09:18] <praveen> does anyone here think they can help me?
[09:18] <praveen> plz
[09:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what kind of release are you using?
[09:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what kind of driver?
[09:18] <praveen> kubuntu 5.10
[09:18] <praveen> kmix
[09:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[09:18] <praveen> no sound whatsoever
[09:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i mean oss alsa
[09:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and so on
[09:18] <praveen> also
[09:19] <praveen> alsa
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, try to change it
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and restart the sound server
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> everything can be done from kcontrol
[09:19] <praveen> how? i am n00b :D
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kcontrol is for noob
[09:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> under the multimedia
[09:19] <praveen> ok
[09:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Kcontrol -> sound and multimedia -> hardware
[09:20] <praveen> am there
[09:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't know why but i have to leave autodetect otherwise it doesn't work
[09:20] <praveen> ok
[09:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to change the device
[09:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and apply
[09:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you can test if the sound work in the other tab
[09:21] <praveen> trying OSS
[09:21] <praveen> nopes shows error
[09:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> viviersf: i alredy have those multiverse entries but i have no w32codes as far as i see
[09:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> have you try all the errors?
[09:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> devices?
[09:22] <praveen> XMMS says that plz check if soundcard is properly configured
[09:22] <praveen> i tried XMMS
[09:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try something else?
[09:23] <viviersf> Tallia1Kubuntu, hold
[09:23] <praveen> kaffeine also says the same
[09:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try noatun
[09:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or mplayer
[09:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> praveen: have you tried with autodetect?
[09:24] <praveen> it was already in autodetect
[09:24] <praveen> i already have a thread running at ubuntu and kubuntu forums
[09:24] <praveen> but none cud help me
[09:25] <praveen> i tried to upgrade kmix but the package is broken :(
[09:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[09:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that's weird
[09:25] <praveen> i upgraded all kde packages to 3.5.1
[09:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me too
[09:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> have you got a laptop?
[09:26] <praveen> nopes
[09:27] <praveen> the sound actually worked well until a XMMS crash a few weeks back
[09:27] <praveen> and since then i am without any kind of sound on kubuntu
[09:29] <praveen> TallialKubuntu: if u dont mind i will set up a VNC for you, cud u plz try?
[09:30] <viviersf> Tallia1Kubuntu : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:30] <viviersf> download and install that
[09:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[09:30] <viviersf> then you can play almost any file
[09:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you know something for windows too? my girl can't play correctly some movies
[09:31] <praveen> TallialKubuntu : u want to try to set right my linux through krdc?
[09:32] <viviersf> Tallia1Kubuntu, get vlc player for doze
[09:32] <praveen> plz
[09:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> praveen:
[09:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> praveen: ok, but i can't assure you nothing
[09:32] <morrow> morning
[09:32] <praveen> viviersf: plz help me out with the audio problem i have been discussing with TallialKubtuntu
[09:32] <morrow> is there a fix for the memleak in gam_server?
[09:32] <praveen> ok all the best
[09:33] <morrow> found my laptop this morning with 3gb of memory used :/
[09:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow
[09:33] <jocko> morrow you could use fam instead
[09:33] <jocko> it will uninstall gam
[09:33] <praveen> TallialKubuntu : plz connect to 59.92.53.137
[09:33] <praveen> that is my ip
[09:35] <praveen> 59.92.53.137:0
[09:35] <praveen> pwd
[09:35] <praveen> b8gd-B9z
[09:35] <morrow> jocko: hmm sounds good..
[09:35] <praveen> TallialKubuntu: plz try
[09:35] <jocko> morrow fam should be in the repos
[09:35] <morrow> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 262 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:36] <morrow> Hmmm ... sure that the depencies are correct?
[09:36] <morrow> (kde 3.5.1 btw)
[09:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> praveen: The connection to the host has been interrupted
[09:36] <praveen> one sec
[09:37] <jocko> gam is called gamin
[09:37] <praveen> accepted
[09:37] <jocko> in the repos
[09:37] <praveen> wat happened?
[09:37] <jocko> if you install fam you should uninstall gamin
[09:37] <jocko> i thought it uninstalled it by itself
[09:37] <morrow> jocko: it uninstalls gamin with all the depending kde packages
[09:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Authentication failed. Connection aborted.
[09:37] <jocko> hey you are right morrow
[09:38] <jocko> sry i should have checkeed
[09:38] <morrow> np :)
[09:38] <praveen> one last try plz
[09:38] <jocko> in debian you could do it
[09:38] <viviersf> praveen, which audio problem do you have ?
[09:38] <jocko> i guess ubuntu ties it to kde
[09:38] <praveen> cant play any audio
[09:38] <morrow> dapper seems not to have this problem (yet?)
[09:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> praveen: if you don't put my name before i can't see your messages
[09:38] <morrow> but i guess the dapper gamin won't run in breezy
[09:38] <praveen> TallialKubuntu: oops sorry
[09:38] <viviersf> praveen, what soundcard do you have ?
[09:39] <praveen> viviersf: its default from intel 865gbf board
[09:39] <praveen> tallialkubuntu: pl try again
[09:39] <praveen> one last try
[09:39] <viviersf> praveen, :/
[09:39] <viviersf> praveen, it a pII , pIII or PIV /
[09:39] <viviersf> ?
[09:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[09:40] <praveen> viviersf, it is p4
[09:40] <viviersf> k
[09:40] <jocko> morrow http://spilog.org/archives/2005/12/07/gam_server-on-ubuntu/
[09:40] <jocko> he says dapper gamin installs in breezy
[09:40] <praveen> tallialkubuntu, wat seems to be the problem?
[09:41] <morrow> jocko: thx, will give it a try
[09:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> boh
[09:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no idead
[09:41] <praveen> tallialkubuntu, 59.92.53.137:0
[09:42] <praveen> tallialkubuntu, pwd is RgBd-sVm
[09:43] <praveen> tallialkubuntu, can u do it?
[09:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> RgBd-sVm
[09:43] <praveen> yeah
[09:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Connection failed. The server does not accept new connections.
[09:43] <praveen> someone seem to have connected already :/
[09:43] <morrow> well it realy installs without any errors. :)
[09:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> some idiot that think to be an hacker
[09:44] <praveen> he has left, tallialkubuntu
[09:44] <praveen> plz come now
[09:44] <praveen> tallialkubuntu plz come now
[09:46] <praveen> tallialkubuntu, u ccan come now
[09:46] <praveen> kcontrol is open for you minimised
[09:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Authentication failed. Connection aborted.
[09:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> stop no more try
[09:48] <praveen> how come
[09:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> because i am bored
[09:48] <praveen> ok thanks anyway for all ouur time
[09:48] <praveen> :D
[09:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[09:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[09:48] <praveen> ok bye for now
[09:54] <Melsen> What the heck is a .skz file?
[09:55] <jpatrick> Melsen: superkaramba theme file
[09:58] <Melsen> jpatrick: Yeah? When I go to the dir with those files in it with SuperKaramba.. it's doesn't lists them as theme files
[09:58] <Melsen> How do I use them?
[09:59] <jpatrick> Melsen: open them from within SuperKarmaba
[09:59] <Melsen> Thats what Im doing
[09:59] <jpatrick> Melsen: do you have KDE 3.5?
[09:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Melsen: i am skitzed!!
[09:59] <Melsen> but it doesn't lists them when I go to the dir.. even though it searches for themes
[09:59] <Melsen> I run the latest version of Kubuntu
[10:00] <Melsen> so yes jpatrick
[10:00] <jpatrick> lastest has 3.4.3....
[10:00] <Melsen> Didn't it say 3.5.1?
[10:00] <Melsen> uhmm
[10:00] <jpatrick> Help -> About KDE
[10:01] <Melsen> Oh damn
[10:01] <Melsen> Your right
[10:01] <Melsen> 3.4.3
[10:01] <Melsen> Can I update to 3.5 through adept?
[10:01] <jpatrick> yes
[10:01] <jpatrick> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[10:06] <Melsen> Will I get it if I just chose 'Full Upgrade' inside Adept?
[10:06] <Akurin>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[10:06] <jpatrick> Melsen: yep :)
[10:06] <Melsen> yay
[10:06] <jpatrick> be happy
[10:06] <Melsen> I am =)
[10:06] <Melsen> Adept rules
[10:07] <Melsen> Probably healthy to do a full upgrade occasionally anyways
[10:07] <jpatrick> development verison is better :)
[10:07] <Melsen> what do you mean?
[10:07] <Melsen> <- completely linux desktop newbie
[10:07] <jpatrick> it's development version is better
[10:07] <jpatrick> <- kubuntu dev
[10:07] <Melsen> Are you a kubuntu developer?
[10:08] <jpatrick> yes
[10:08] <Melsen> Well, by all means.... let me congratulate you on what I believe is the best dist available
[10:08] <jpatrick> I only make packages and other thingys
[10:08] <Melsen> I've tried debian, suse, redhat, knoppix..... tried gentoo too, but gave up on it
[10:08] <Melsen> But Kubuntu... now that freakin rocks
[10:09] <jpatrick> I tried Gentoo it failed on install
[10:09] <dr_zaius--> hey!
[10:10] <jpatrick> hello dr_zaius--
[10:10] <dr_zaius--> need some help with kubuntu intallation
[10:10] <jpatrick> what's the problem?
[10:10] <dr_zaius--> I have a 172 panoramic screen laptop
[10:10] <dr_zaius--> and X is not starting
[10:10] <dr_zaius--> sorry 17"
[10:10] <jpatrick> dr_zaius--: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:10] <Akurin> that's better
[10:11] <Akurin> hello all
[10:11] <dr_zaius--> is it a config script?
[10:11] <jpatrick> dr_zaius--: yes
[10:11] <dr_zaius--> or should i change smth in the .conf file?
[10:11] <jpatrick> Akurin: hi
[10:11] <Akurin> im umm thinking about swithing over to Linux
[10:11] <Akurin> but from OS X
[10:12] <Akurin> i tried to DL the Live version of kubuntu
[10:12] <Akurin> but i can't seem to figure out how to install it :P
[10:12] <dr_zaius--> ok, thank you very much jpatrick
[10:12] <dr_zaius--> i'll try and let u know ;D
[10:12] <jpatrick> Akurin: you can't from the Live verison (yet....)
[10:12] <jpatrick> dr_zaius--: no problemo
[10:13] <Akurin> :(
[10:13] <Akurin> well then
[10:13] <jpatrick> Akurin: download the install one
[10:13] <Akurin> how do i get to use Kubuntu without changing my comp?
[10:14] <jocko> you have to download the install cd
[10:14] <Akurin> so the one i just downloaded is just waste now?
[10:14] <jpatrick> Akurin: no, you could use it
[10:14] <Akurin> how then?
[10:15] <jocko> you can use it, just not installed to your harddrive
[10:16] <jpatrick> Akurin: this is for Hoary but you could try: http://www.willmer.com/kb/2005/02/installing-ubuntu-hoary-from-livecd/
[10:16] <Akurin> so i gotta burn an install disc with the .iso file? is that it?
[10:17] <Akurin> i don't even know what hoary is :P
[10:17] <jpatrick> pervious verison of Kubuntu
[10:17] <Melsen> jpatrick: HEEELP!
[10:18] <jpatrick> Melsen: I'm here
[10:18] <Melsen> I think eeeeverything broke down now
[10:18] <jpatrick> why?
[10:18] <Melsen> During the full upgrade... dpkg suddenly came with a whole bunch of errors
[10:18] <Akurin> c i can't understand most of what that page said
[10:18] <Melsen> and said that it halted because of too many errors
[10:18] <jpatrick> "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:18] <Melsen> I cant
[10:18] <jpatrick> :/
[10:19] <Melsen> I tried closing my applications
[10:19] <Melsen> and then other errors came
[10:19] <jpatrick> such as?
[10:19] <Melsen> Then I figured... "Thats odd... I think I'll reboot the system".. so I chose to log off and restart
[10:19] <Melsen> And now when I try to boot, Grub just says 'GRUB loading, please wait...'
[10:19] <Melsen> and then writes ERROR 18
[10:19] <Melsen> and nothing else happens
[10:19] <jpatrick> oh dear
[10:19] <Melsen> so now I can't boot up anymore
[10:21] <Melsen> .. what do I do now?
[10:21] <jpatrick> not sure
[10:22] <Akurin> ok i think im just gonna burn the .iso file unto a CD
[10:22] <jpatrick> reinstall or if you have a live CD you could try a chroot
[10:22] <Melsen> alright
[10:22] <jpatrick> Akurin: what .iso?
[10:24] <robotgeek> Melsen: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-122656.html
[10:24] <Akurin> the umm liveCD  .iso file
[10:24] <robotgeek> grub error codes, and what they mean
[10:24] <Borut> hello
[10:24] <Akurin> from here
[10:24] <Akurin> w8 can i link?
[10:24] <jpatrick> Akurin: that won't install it
[10:25] <Akurin> no i don't wanna install
[10:25] <Akurin> i guess i had worded my question wrong from the beginning
[10:25] <Akurin> ok
[10:25] <Akurin> this is what i did
[10:25] <Akurin> downloaded the .iso file
[10:26] <Akurin> (It's the Live CD one)
[10:26] <Akurin> then it mounted itself
[10:26] <Akurin> SO i thought i could check it out from that
[10:26] <Akurin> but stupid me just realized that i have to burn it first
[10:26] <Akurin> so that's what im doing
[10:26] <Akurin> using Disk Utility
[10:27] <Akurin> k?
[10:27] <jpatrick> yeah, burn it
[10:28] <Akurin> cuz i wanna know what im getting into IF i decide to leave OSX and go and be friends with the penguin
[10:28] <robotgeek> Akurin: dapper is going to be sooo awesmoe
[10:29] <Akurin> what is?
[10:29] <Akurin> dapper?
[10:29] <robotgeek> !dapper
[10:29] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be the "Dapper Drake" release, due april 20, 2006. If you want to use it before then, be warned that it's not yet stable and may break. You get to keep/repair the pieces.
[10:30] <Akurin> o
[10:30] <Akurin> i c, i c
[10:30] <robotgeek> Akurin: do u have a laptop, or a emac?
[10:31] <Akurin> iBook
[10:31] <jpatrick> Akurin: Dapper will be able to install from the live
[10:31] <robotgeek> jpatrick: even the flight cd's?
[10:31] <jpatrick> robotgeek: F4944AEE
[10:31] <jpatrick> I mean: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1789
[10:32] <Akurin> so NOW what to I do with this CD i just burned?
[10:32] <jpatrick> Akurin: boot with it
[10:32] <Akurin> ...
[10:32] <Akurin> ooo
[10:32] <jpatrick> reboot with the CD inside
[10:32] <Akurin> yea gotcha
[10:32] <Akurin> k then
[10:40] <jpatrick> robotgeek: eh?
[10:40] <robotgeek> annoying away messages
[10:41] <jpatrick> I see
[10:41] <Tm_T> ok
[10:41] <Tm_T> public aways are always annoying
[10:43] <jpatrick> well he's away so he won't notice
[10:43] <robotgeek> i need to correct my aliases in irssi, it doesn't give the message. *sigh*
[10:46] <Tm_T> heh
[10:49] <visik7> how can I load libraries at boot time instead of when I run an app that require a lib ? just the common used lib like qt kdelibs and some other
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> please
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> save my night
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i play a dvd on linux?
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i never did it
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> a movie dvd
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is it possible with mplayer?
[11:02] <jpatrick> !dvd
[11:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, dvd is DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can't install it :(
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i have no time..
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> see ya
[11:06] <jpatrick> !info libdvdcss2
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> eheh
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !info libdvdcss2
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !dvd
[11:10] <ubotu> dvd is, like, DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:10] <goliath> lu all
[11:11] <goliath> kelk'un pourrai m'aid, je viens d'intall kubuntu sur mon portable, et j'ai le son ki marche pa ! :(
[11:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> jpatrick: ok i installed it
[11:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what now?
[11:16] <jpatrick> Tallia1Kubuntu: try playing it
[11:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> with what?
[11:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> which program do i have to use?
[11:18] <jpatrick> Kaffeine, mplayer...
[11:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how to use mplayer?
[11:18] <jpatrick> Tallia1Kubuntu: no idea
[11:21] <eXistenZ> I downloaded xemacs, but it wasn't added to the menu, how can I fix this?
[11:23] <mars> cd ./libresample && autoconf && sh ./configure && make
[11:23] <mars> Hi i am new in linux and during make of my game it says
[11:23] <mars> what i pasted uper
[11:24] <mars> what schould i do?
[11:24] <mars> i entered ./libresample
[11:24] <mars> But what then?
[11:26] <ziza> excuse me, is there an experienced Opera user present here?
[11:27] <mars> what is wrong with your Opera?
[11:27] <ziza> i'd like to ask whether one mandatorily needs a premium account to search in the bugs archive of Opera?
[11:29] <ziza> bugs.opera.com shows the bug tracking system of Opera
[11:29] <ziza> clicking on "If you don't have a bug system account, click here." doesn't really show you a sign up page...
[11:30] <mars> can someone help me with my problem?
[11:31] <mars> cd ./libresample && autoconf && sh ./configure && make
[11:31] <mars> what schoul i do?
[11:31] <mars> autocont- what does it mean?
[11:31] <ziza> mars: libresample? is this a library needed by your game?
[11:31] <mars> yes
[11:31] <mars> :] 
[11:32] <mars> during make it sayss what i pasted
[11:32] <ziza> what's the current working directory?
[11:34] <ziza> mars, do you read me? :)
[11:34] <mars> styes
[11:34] <mars> i entered libresample
[11:35] <ziza> ok, try ./configure now
[11:35] <mars> bash: ./configure: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
[11:35] <mars> means
[11:35] <mars> there is npo file or directory
[11:36] <mars> no*
[11:36] <ziza> hm
[11:36] <ziza> what does ls show?
[11:37] <mars> config.guess  include      Makefile.in   src    xboxresample
[11:37] <mars> config.sub    install-sh   README.txt    tests
[11:37] <mars> configure.in  LICENSE.txt  resample.def  wi
[11:38] <ziza> does autoconf do anything?
[11:38] <mars> i schould type autoconf ?
[11:39] <ziza> yes
[11:39] <mars> mars@lunar:~/Gry/StepMania-3.9-src/src/libresample$ autoconf
[11:39] <mars> bash: autoconf: command not found
[11:40] <ziza> so you don't have autoconf installed
[11:40] <mars> is that some kind of program?
[11:41] <ziza> yes, i think it's needed to generate a configure script
[11:41] <ziza> check synaptic if it has a package called autoconf
[11:42] <mars> i am installing it from adept :] 
[11:42] <ziza> ok, no problem :)
[11:42] <ziza> it's true: autoconf - Generate configuration scripts (man page)
[11:45] <mars> ok i made it and then configure and make
[11:45] <mars> i will see what next with game configure :] 
[11:45] <mars> omg i suppose it works :] 
[11:45] <ziza> it's building?
[11:46] <ziza> congrats :D
[11:55] <visik7> how can I get new nvidia driver 8178
[11:55] <visik7> ?
[12:18] <jeroenvrp> folks
[12:19] <jeroenvrp> someone has a webpage where I can find step-by-step instructions to update from breezy to current dapper
[12:19] <jeroenvrp> ?
[12:19] <jeroenvrp> I like to jump :-)
[12:20] <farous> ubuntu> aio install build-essential
[12:20] <Mitja> How can I login in konsole as another user but not in KDE at the same time?
[12:21] <jeroenvrp> Mitja: eh what you mean?
[12:21] <jeroenvrp> do you mean opening a konsole and switching to another user in konsole?
[12:21] <jeroenvrp> if that is the case:
[12:21] <Mitja> jeroenvrp: yes
[12:21] <jeroenvrp> su - username
[12:21] <Mitja> thanks
[12:21] <jeroenvrp> basic linux knowledge
[12:22] <Mitja> jeroenvrp: yeah
[12:38] <jeroenvrp> please, can someone assist me a little bit with breezy to dapper transition
[12:38] <jeroenvrp> I've changed in the sources.list everything from breezy to dapper
[12:38] <jeroenvrp> cut out the backports and breezy specific repos
[12:39] <jeroenvrp> I did a apt-get update, all went fine
[12:39] <Mez> jeroenvrp, then sudo apt-get update
[12:39] <Mez> sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <Mez> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:39] <Mez> sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[12:40] <mars> how can i uninstall programm installegd from sources?
[12:40] <Mez> not from building a deb?
[12:40] <mars> no
[12:40] <mars> i installed game from sources and i want to uninstall it
[12:40] <Mez> erm - it differes from package to package
[12:41] <Mez> do you still have the sources you installed from?
[12:42] <mars> yes
[12:42] <mars> i cant delete them
[12:42] <Mez> from there try a sudo make uninstall
[12:44] <mars> ok
[12:44] <mars> works
[12:46] <Mez> :D
[12:46] <mars> but i still cant delete file where the is source
[12:47] <Mez> sudo rm -rf * (in the directory where the source is
[12:47] <jeroenvrp> sorry wason the phone
[12:48] <jeroenvrp> Mez: have I do all the those apt-get commands?
[12:49] <Mez> yes - for a full upgrade
[12:49] <jeroenvrp> ah
[12:49] <jeroenvrp> I did a apt-get dist-upgrade first
[12:49] <jeroenvrp> and it wanted to remove a bunch of packages
[12:49] <jeroenvrp> without updating
[12:50] <jeroenvrp> so now i did a  apt-get upgrade, and it dont want to remove anything
[12:50] <Mez> always best to do an upgrade
[12:50] <Mez> dist-upgrade
[12:50] <Mez> dselect-upgrade
[12:50] <jeroenvrp> what the diff between those
[12:50] <jeroenvrp> or where can find a webpage discribing that
[12:51] <bimberi> apt-get's man page has good info
[12:53] <jeroenvrp> thanks bimberi
[12:53] <bimberi> jeroenvrp: yw :)
[12:54] <bimberi> i hadn't heard of dselect-upgrade and had a look :)
[01:02] <malte> hi
[01:02] <malte> i've an extern usb hard-drive connected to my kubuntu install right now, but i'm not getting very good performance
[01:03] <malte> it's a usb 2.0 device
[01:03] <malte> i'm getting something like 1000 kB/sec with hdparm -t
[01:03] <Skrot> Try -T
[01:04] <Skrot> I get 1597MB/s cached and 22.22MB/s buffered on a laptop
[01:04] <malte> that gives me 671.04 MB/sec
[01:05] <malte> "Timing buffered disk reads:    4 MB in  4.25 seconds = 963.00 kB/sec"
[01:05] <malte> i mean, usb 2.0 should be much faster shouldn't it?
[01:05] <malte> i know it's much faster on a windows machine
[01:05] <Skrot> That's slow
[01:05] <Skrot>  Timing buffered disk reads:   68 MB in  3.06 seconds =  22.22 MB/sec
[01:05] <Skrot> And that's a laptop
[01:05] <Skrot> 4200RPM
[01:06] <malte> oh, wait
[01:06] <malte> dmesg says "usb 4-1: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub"
[01:06] <malte> but it's supposed to be a high speed port i connected it to
[01:06] <Skrot> ah, the USB contact is probably USB 1?
[01:06] <malte> i don't think so :/
[01:07] <Skrot> Try sudo modprobe ehci_hcd
[01:07] <malte> but i'm not sure how to verify that
[01:07] <Skrot> Laptop or workstation?
[01:07] <malte> workstation
[01:08] <malte> same buffered read after modprobing
[01:08] <Skrot> okay
[01:08] <Skrot> Look up the manual for the motherboard
[01:08] <Skrot> Or try another USB plug and see if dmesg reports anything different
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> malte: after you modprobe ehci you may have to remove and re-plug in your drive.
[01:09] <malte> "Timing buffered disk reads:   64 MB in  3.08 seconds =  20.81 MB/sec" \o/
[01:10] <malte> what is ehci then? methinks it should be loaded automatically
[01:10] <malte> ok, checked modinfo
[01:10] <malte> thanks guys! :)
[01:11] <LeeJunFan> malte: to force it to load on boot add ehci_ucd to /etc/modules
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> ehci_hcd that is.
[01:16] <Tonio_> hi
[01:22] <Melsen> jpatrick: The installation wasn't able to be saved
[01:22] <Melsen> I have to reinstall the whole thing :(
[01:22] <jpatrick> :(
[01:22] <Melsen> I booted on a livecd, mounted the drive and wanted to reinstall grub
[01:23] <Melsen> but when I tried to cd into the /boot dir, I got an input output error
[01:23] <Melsen> and even with fsck there wasn't anything I could do
[01:23] <Melsen> loads of errors
[01:23] <jpatrick> Melsen: did you chroot it?
[01:23] <Melsen> Yeah
[01:23] <Melsen> I did chroot it
[01:23] <jpatrick> hmmm
[01:23] <Melsen> Im wondering why dpkg came with so many different errors when it tried to do that full upgrade
[01:24] <Melsen> there isn't anything with... you HAVE to be logged in as root or something to do it through adept?
[01:24] <Melsen> I should be able to do it with my regular user
[01:24] <Melsen> correct?
[01:24] <jpatrick> Melsen: I prefer apt-get
[01:25] <Melsen> so just sudo apt-get upgrade?
[01:25] <Melsen> would that do the same?
[01:27] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:27] <Melsen> Ohh
[01:27] <Melsen> I didn't know that command
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> dist-upgrade upgrades literally everything
[01:28] <Melsen> So if I do that, it will also upgrade the KDE3.4.3 to KDE3.5?
[01:28] <jpatrick> yes
[01:28] <Skrot> Anyone know if there are any severe memory leakage in any of the packages (X.org, KDE, etc) in dapper?
[01:28] <Melsen> awesome
[01:28] <Melsen> I think I'll try that instead then
[01:28] <jpatrick> Melsen: if you enabled the repo
[01:28] <Skrot> I mean. 722MB of memory used when I'm not running X.org or KDE/KDM is a little off?
[01:30] <Melsen> jpatrick: When you say enabled the repo, you mean universe/multiverse, right?
[01:30] <jpatrick> Melsen: no
[01:30] <Melsen> oh?
[01:31] <jpatrick> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[01:33] <farous> #ubuntu
[01:34] <staqen> VMware Server Goes Free, but Not Open :))
[01:35] <staqen> nice: "free", as some sort of antonym to "open"!
[01:37] <ziza> can somebody answer me a question regarding user javascripts in Opera?
[01:37] <ziza> is it possible to access and manipulate local files with javascript functions?
[01:38] <kameron> ... this is really weird guys.
[01:38] <kameron> threre's an AC/DC song playing right now.. i am only running xchat. i can't figure out what's going on. i don't even have any AC/DC music.
[01:38] <kameron> like, nothing remotely close either.
[01:39] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: browser?
[01:39] <kameron> no dude.
[01:39] <Hobbsee> tried checking in top for any weird programs?
[01:39] <hatake_kakashi> or ps
[01:40] <kameron> i checked ps, i'll try top.
[01:40] <kameron> top is kinda confusing.
[01:40] <kameron> like, how do i scroll down?
[01:40] <hatake_kakashi> top is meant to show which app uses the most CPU, etc
[01:41] <kameron> but how do i scroll down to see more processes?
[01:41] <jpatrick> kameron: do Ctrl+Esc
[01:42] <kameron> ty
[01:43] <ziza> no idea regarding my query?
[01:43] <kameron> this is weird man.
[01:43] <hatake_kakashi> ziza: #java
[01:43] <kameron> and the song is "highway to hell"
[01:43] <kameron> you know. just kinda terrifying, like jason with a chainsaw might pop in for a bloody visit.
[01:44] <bobuse> hatake_kakashi: no please ! javascript != java
[01:44] <ziza> are you kidding?
[01:44] <ziza> bobuse: thanks :)
[01:44] <hatake_kakashi> well I have no clue :p I don't do java for the time being
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> but javascript *has* some resemblance to java :P
[01:45] <bobuse> ziza : I hope that it isn't possile to "manipulate local files with javascript functions"
[01:45] <ziza> i know that this should be restricted, and in fact it is
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> and hence I don't even know if there is even a #javascript channel :P
[01:46] <ziza> but my question is whether i can do that in USER javascripts, this is a feature in Opera
[01:46] <bobuse> hatake_kakashi: defintely not. And javascript doesn't exist anymore. talk about ECMAscript instead ;-)
[01:46] <kameron> maybe a browser was playing something an dnow it's stuck.
[01:46] <kameron> i'll just kill X.
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> ziza: I don't use Opera
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> bobuse: meh
[01:47] <kameron> oh man, i just killed X, logged in again.. IT'S STILL PLAYING
[01:47] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: go init 3, kill X and see if there is still music, if not, go init 5 and then run X again
[01:47] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, ill give it a try.
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: and you should run an irc client on console, saves you from quitting and rejoining
[01:51] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, didn't do anything man.
[01:51] <redondos> Hi everyone. What can I use in KDE to temporarily store my GPG passphrase? Something like gpg-agent with a GUI. (I don't care about the GUI, but how'd I go about making gpg-agent work on KDE, then?)
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: so you went to init 3 and killed X, you still hear sounds?
[01:52] <kameron> ... it didn't kill x.. i don't know what it did. i typed 'sudo telinit 3'
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: it should be 'sudo init 3 && killall X'
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> err
[01:53] <kameron> oh, and kill x.
[01:53] <hatake_kakashi> sudo init 3 && sudo killall X
[01:53] <hatake_kakashi> do be warned that you need to go back to init 5 and restart X
[01:53] <kameron> should 'X' be the pid?
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> Mez: I have an error
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> no killall can handle words, as long as you have pointed the right name.. I think its also Xorg
[01:54] <kameron> yes, Xorg is better.
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> yeah its Xorg
[01:54] <kameron> okay, ill rejoin on irssi or something.
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> while updatinf from breezy to dapper (apt-get ugrade)
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> to restart X you need to type startxs
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:54] <jeroenvrp>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-gnome2_2.12.3-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> startx*
[01:55] <laga> hi
[01:55] <visik7> some libraries on breezy aren't compiled with --with-pic I've patched that libraries anyone know where to submit the patch ?
[01:55] <kameron> nothing man.
[01:55] <kameron> still music.. this is gross.
[01:55] <nat> Hi, do you know the name of a good html editor ?
[01:55] <kameron> nat, i like screem
[01:56] <jeroenvrp> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libpythonmethod.so', which is also in package python2.4-gnome2
[01:56] <laga> would anyone know why i can't join #ubuntu? it says that i'm banned but i can't see anything in the ban list that'd match my host mask
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: are you sure that if you unplugged the cable the sound would go away?
[01:56] <kameron> i switched to runlevel 3 after killing x, and it restarted on it's own hatake_kakashi
[01:56] <kameron> hatake_kakashi: "the cable"
[01:56] <kameron> oh, like.. the.. here, let me try.
[01:57] <kameron> hatake_kakashi: yes, ofcourse it went away. i made sure to check it's not radio somewhere else in the room or anything.
[01:58] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: hmm
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> ok, removed pythonm-gnome2
[02:00] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, rebooted, it's gone.. that was so weird man.
[02:00] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: try recalling what did you do last to cause that
[02:00] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, tell me, is there sound here: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://carcrazybill.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/180sx.jpg&imgrefurl=http://carcrazybill.tripod.com/&h=300&w=400&sz=36&tbnid=DYBs2r7DZ4-7FM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3D180sx%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
[02:02] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, i was just browsing.. but closed the browser, sound continued.. killed the firefox process, etc, it still remained.
[02:02] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: no sound for me, I am using firefox from the repos
[02:03] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, with all plugins, flash, shockwave, etc?
[02:04] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: flash only
[02:04] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, weird
[02:04] <hatake_kakashi> I don't even recall you can use shockwave with firefox, I'll check again
[02:06] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, i don't remember. i just loaded it and the music was playing.
[02:06] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, just checked out page source, noticed this:<embed autostart="true" hidden="true" loop="true" src="http://carcrazybill.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/acdchighwaytohell.mp3"></embed>
[02:08] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: well, check that against mozilla's default player for that mp3 handle
[02:08] <kameron> how would i go about doing that?
[02:08] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: open a new tab/window for firefox and type 'about:plugins' without quotes
[02:09] <kameron> ah.. i was messing around in about:config
[02:10] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: and it doesn't even seem like I have a program assigned to that handle, let alone a handle under its own heading
[02:11] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, for me it's the mplayer plugin package, whatever it's called.
[02:11] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: ahh
[02:11] <kameron> hatake_kakashi, mozilla-mplayer
[02:11] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: with that you could have looked for ps -A| grep mplayer or lsof| grep mplayer
[02:12] <hatake_kakashi> or mozilla-mplayer for that instance
[02:12] <kameron> i
[02:12] <kameron> i'll know now :P
[02:12] <kameron> thanks for the help hatake_kakashi
[02:12] <hatake_kakashi> kameron: and I thought it was definetly something to do with the browser from the first instance anyway, but oh well
[02:13] <kameron> yeah.
[02:13] <hatake_kakashi> np
[02:15] <Windkracht8> Hello all, question: I want to add a system tray icon to my program which shows the status of the program, does someone know a howto or tutorial to do this?
[02:15] <Windkracht8> oh, yes, one thing: it has to work on KDE AND GNOME
[02:25] <hayden> i just installed kubuntu, and when i go into system settings->disks and filesystems i click admin mode and type my password but it doesn't let me edit any options?>
[02:29] <staqen> in ubuntu, what directory contains my desktop menu entry files?
[02:30] <JohnFlux> stagen locate .desktop
[02:31] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: what are you trying to do with it anyway?
[02:32] <Melsen> Oh?
[02:32] <Melsen> There's a command called locat
[02:32] <Melsen> +e
[02:32] <Melsen> cool =)
[02:32] <Melsen> I didnt know that
[02:32] <Melsen> hehe
[02:32] <Melsen> hayden: did you solve your problem?
[02:33] <bobuse> Melsen: there is a plugin for locate in konqueror, just type "locate: .desktop" in the URL bar
[02:33] <Melsen> haha. Awesome
[02:35] <bobuse> hayden: if you just have installed breezy from a cd, admin mode is bugly in kcontrol. You need to update your kubuntu
[02:36] <Melsen> I've just had to reinstall my entire kubuntu... I managed to fuck it up
[02:36] <Melsen> Amazing the things you learn as a newbie linux desktop user
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> bobuse: lol that's somewhat better than having a non-useable failsafe mode and arrow keys not working on vty
[02:37] <bobuse> Melsen: you can too type [alt] +[F2] , and type your request. It will open konqui with results
[02:37] <Mitja> What's the package for gmake?
[02:38] <bobuse> hatake_kakashi: what's a vty ?
[02:38] <Melsen> terminal console - isnt it?
[02:38] <Melsen> or am I mistaken hatake_kakashi?
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> yes, those Ctrl+Alt+Fx where x is the numbers from 1 to 6, number 7 is the Xfce
[02:39] <sare> Can Anyone help me out ? -- I was trying to install Skype, and it said to run "sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt" so i did so, And now most things are malformatted...  IE. konqueror, ark.desktop
[02:39] <Melsen> ouch
[02:39] <Melsen> 'fraid I can't give you much advice.
[02:39] <bobuse> hatake_kakashi: so you mean tty maybe
[02:39] <Melsen> But I'll look forward to hearing the answer tho =)
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> !info libqt3c102-mt
[02:40] <farous> IE
[02:40] <farous> ?
[02:40] <farous> !skype
[02:40] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> bobuse: bah, that too
[02:40] <sare> i think i may have downgraded  somthing...
[02:40] <bobuse> farous: IE = i.e.
[02:40] <Melsen> Hey
[02:40] <farous> you can install it directly from seveas repos
[02:40] <Melsen> at least I knew what he meant when he said vty =)
[02:40] <Melsen> haha
[02:41] <sare> lol, I was follow ubuntuguide.org for skype
[02:41] <farous> !ubnuntuguide
[02:41] <ubotu> farous: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:41] <sare> farous: IE ment examples
[02:41] <farous> !ubuntuguide
[02:41] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:41] <farous> sare ^ ^
[02:41] <bobuse> hatake_kakashi: I have too problems with arrows keys on my laptop, but in all X apps :-/
[02:41] <sare> lol :(. Im new -- haha.
[02:42] <farous> ok sare i understand now. Though you were running IE on wine :)
[02:42] <hatake_kakashi> bobuse: could be key mappings
[02:42] <sare> wine is not installed lol
[02:42] <hatake_kakashi> IE through wine? disgusting
[02:42] <sare> but gotcha
[02:42] <sare> haha. Firefox <3
[02:42] <sare> !info libqt3c102-mt
[02:43] <bobuse> hatake_kakashi: maybe ... not yet investigating
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> farous: you got that package through googling?
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> bobuse: heh
[02:43] <farous> hatake_kakashi: skype? I got it by enabling seveas repos and then just apt-get
[02:44] <farous> !tell sare about easysource
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> farous: no, the libqt3c102-mt
[02:44] <farous> sare this will five you a good start
[02:44] <sare> But does anyone know how to fix whatever libqt3c102-mt has done?
[02:44] <sare> alright.
[02:44] <farous> hatake_kakashi: i do not think i needed it
[02:44] <farous> let me se if it is installed
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> ahh, not you lol, wrong person, I should be asking sare, my bad
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> sare: where did you get libqt3c102-mt?
[02:45] <sare> apt-get
[02:45] <sare> apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[02:45] <farous> no not installed how did you get it sare it is no in the repos
[02:45] <farous> it say it is an old obsolete package
[02:45] <bobuse> try to remove it.
[02:46] <sare> farous: Seemed to work for me -- unfortinally.
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> libqt3c102-mt - Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3
[02:46] <benkong2> any ifrename folks here?
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> most likely in the universe part of repos
[02:46] <farous> perhaps but i do not have it here
[02:47] <benkong2> i have a laptop with built in wireless and they get named eth2 and eth3 anyway to change that? also they don't work on boot
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> farous: its under breezy, I have both universe enabled one normal and one security universe enabled
[02:48] <farous> and the skype i installed does not depend on it
[02:48] <sare> well im not worryed about skype right now -- I just need to fix whatever libqt3c102-mt did
[02:48] <benkong2> how can i stop knix from opening each time i start kubuntu?
[02:49] <benkong2> sorry kmix ^
[02:49] <farous> sare when you installed it did you get a message that other packages will be removed
[02:50] <sare> farous: It did not tell me, its just ran through... then asked me to restart, and when i did so it seemed to have done all this.
[02:51] <farous> sare ok try uninstalling it using adept
[02:51] <sare> which i do find fairly odd
[02:51] <sare> how ? -- Sorry new
[02:51] <farous> mm it say it is a virtual package
[02:51] <farous> let me see
[02:51] <sare> alright
[02:52] <farous> sare i can not find inofrmation on it
[02:52] <farous> try adept in a terminal
[02:52] <farous> what command you used to install it by the way
[02:52] <sare> apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[02:53] <sare> bash: adept: Command not found
[02:53] <farous> sare are you running kde
[02:54] <sare> Yes, i belive so
[02:54] <farous> !+adept
[02:54] <ubotu> I heard adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:54] <Melsen> what deb do I need to add to sources.list to get KDE3.5.x?
[02:54] <farous> so it is the default package manager
[02:55] <Melsen> nevermind
[02:55] <Melsen> found it
[02:55] <jpatrick> Melsen: the one at the announcement: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[02:55] <sare> farous: Its malformatted,  i can bearly run most things, the *Important* programs seem to be the malformatted ones
[02:55] <Melsen> Too slow jpatrick  =) hehe.. already found it *grins*
[02:56] <farous> sare try reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <farous> might help reinstalling any packages that might have been del
[02:57] <sare> broken packages
[02:57] <_ace> the wiki about kernel building is really not okay
[02:57] <_ace> i tried for two days
[02:57] <sare> farous: Maybe this would be a bit of a problem? "Description: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3 This is the Trolltech Qt library, version 3. It's necessary for applications that link against the libqt-mt.so.3, e.g. all KDE3 applications."
[02:57] <_ace> but the build wont' work, it compiles okay though
[02:58] <farous> sare i have no idea than sorry
[02:59] <Melsen> What does this mean: gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:59] <Melsen> err
[02:59] <Melsen> this: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[02:59] <Melsen> Do I need to take notice of that, or just ignore it?
[03:02] <sare> farous: Accually, It seemed to have unisntalled them, and not installing itself.
[03:04] <sare> farous: Thanks for the help, I think i just might re-install seeing how it was fresh anyways, Thank you though, see you guys later
[03:04] <farous> sare try sudo apt-get check
[03:04] <farous> mm
[03:07] <Melsen> I can't seem to find the page that explains how to add universe and multiverse repositories to kubuntu breezy
[03:07] <farous> !tell melsen about source
[03:07] <farous> !tell melsen about repos
[03:08] <Melsen> But...
[03:08] <Melsen> thats for 5.04 and ubuntu.. not kubuntu?
[03:08] <farous> melsen the repos are the same
[03:08] <farous> !tell Melsen about easysource
[03:09] <farous> Melsen: and strange the link is for hoary i do not think so
[03:11] <Melsen> That easy-source
[03:11] <Melsen> do I just mark all the source and packages in the right side on all of them?
[03:12] <farous> Melsen: just select what you want then copy it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:12] <farous> Melsen: and easy source make you select breezy and kubuntu
[03:13] <MNO> How come when I try to open a drive it says "Could not enter folder media/hda5"? :/
[03:13] <farous> mno cause there is no dir /media/hda5
[03:14] <MNO>  but the drive is mounted? if i log in a root i can access the drive fine
[03:15] <farous> MNO: do you have a drive /media/hda5
[03:15] <farous> the drive is under /dev/hda5
[03:15] <farous> you have to mount it to a dir
[03:15] <MNO> Yeah. It under both
[03:16] <MNO> It was set to mount in the fstab
[03:16] <farous> MNO: than perhaps you do not have right permission to open it
[03:16] <^rob^> !awahi
[03:16] <ubotu> ^rob^: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:16] <MNO> So how would I go about changing the permsissions?
[03:16] <farous> MNO: edit your fstab and make it access to reg users
[03:16] <farous> mno is it ntfs
[03:16] <MNO> Yeah
[03:17] <MNO> Could you tell me how to edit the fstab as I dont know what to put in it
[03:17] <farous> !ntfs
[03:17] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:17] <MNO> thanks
[03:18] <hayden> what do i use to format a partition to fat32?
[03:19] <Melsen> jpatrick: You still around buddy?
[03:19] <jpatrick> yes
[03:19] <Melsen> Alright
[03:19] <Melsen> I just added a whole new sources.list taken from the easysource site
[03:20] <Melsen> You familiar with that - right?
[03:20] <Melsen> This one: http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:21] <Melsen> So.. I'm wondering.. is it safe for me to do that sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now?
[03:21] <jpatrick> do sudo apt-get update
[03:21] <Melsen> Already did that
[03:21] <Melsen> everything checked out fine
[03:21] <jpatrick> hit it@
[03:21] <Melsen> uhmm
[03:21] <Melsen> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[03:21] <Melsen>   koffice-data koffice-libs krita openoffice.org2-l10n-en-us openoffice.org2-core openoffice.org2-common
[03:21] <Melsen>   ttf-opensymbol openoffice.org2-java-common python-uno openoffice.org2-writer openoffice.org2-calc
[03:21] <Melsen>   openoffice.org2-draw openoffice.org2-impress openoffice.org2-math openoffice.org2-base openoffice.org2
[03:21] <Melsen>   openoffice.org2-help-en-us openoffice.org2-kde
[03:22] <jpatrick> Y
[03:22] <jpatrick> and use pastebin
[03:22] <Melsen> alright
[03:22] <Melsen> Sorry......
[03:22] <Melsen> damn
[03:22] <Melsen> 102mb
[03:22] <Melsen> my goodness
[03:22] <Melsen> Do I need to shut down applications.. like this irc program and so on like Windows normally require?
[03:22] <jpatrick> No
[03:23] <Melsen> Oh... fantastic
[03:23] <Melsen> I think I'm gonna like running Kubuntu in the long term =)
[03:23] <Melsen> naturally given I can build up the require competance to use it properly.
[03:24] <Melsen> But I'm happy we have this #kubuntu channel with so many dedicated and helpful people.
[03:24] <Melsen> that definately helps alot
[03:24] <Melsen> Any of you ever been in the #debian channel?
[03:24] <Melsen> Boy many of the people there seem so arrogant
[03:24] <Melsen> and not interrested in helping out "newbies" at all...
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[03:26] <Melsen> .. what?
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen: when you have been worn out to the stage where you read manuals most of the time, you may understand why someone won't guide you :)
[03:27] <Melsen> ... Well - that may be true. But isn't that still what the #irc channel is for.
[03:27] <Melsen> I know thats how they market that IRC channel on their website
[03:27] <NRG88> hi, where can i get a working wine? (not from winehq, cuz connection broken.. )
[03:28] <rhymery> /help
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: the one in the repos works
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: well for me it does
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen: not exactly, but you get extremists, trollers, etc
[03:30] <Melsen> Yeah well... I'm happy I dont have to hang out there anymore.
[03:30] <Melsen> It's people like that which often have made me give up on using linux as a desktop replacement.
[03:31] <ubijtsa_> what usually ticks 'the gurus' off is when someone turns up, asks a question and if they have not got a complete answer in 30s they start going on about how unhelpful people are..
[03:31] <Melsen> Even reading docs doesn't always make things understandable enough to comprehend the problem and possible solution to whatever problem you have.
[03:31] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen: heh
[03:31] <Melsen> Occasionally I've found that docs are in many cases written so they are understandable from people with knowledge about linux in the first place
[03:32] <hatake_kakashi> ubijtsa2: that's also true
[03:32] <Melsen> But when you move from 10 years useage of windows and to linux..
[03:32] <ubijtsa2> Melsen: then you are brave :)
[03:32] <ubijtsa2> commendable, but also brave
[03:32] <Melsen> Either that, or I just hate Microsoft enough =)
[03:32] <Melsen> I'm sick and fed up with the ridiculous licensing politics.
[03:32] <hatake_kakashi> Melsen: in a *nix environment, most of the time you habitually spend time reading docs rather than having people to walk you through every step, only paid users get that sort of advantage to some point
[03:33] <Melsen> I know me switching to linux wont do crap to MS - But it makes me feel better that I dont support it
[03:34] <ubijtsa2> Melsen: the licencing politics still exist in the unix world, once you head for the big iron stuff
[03:34] <Melsen> That may be true.. and that may very well end up being my own scenario in the future.
[03:35] <hatake_kakashi> ubijtsa2: I don't have a copy of xp heh, I may need to obtain one from someone soon just to temporarily transfer my data between an open-sourced filesystem and a propriatory filesystem
[03:35] <hatake_kakashi> I'm planning to try and work with linux as much as possible
[03:35] <Melsen> But for now, I have to say I've really got a taste for this... and not only is it because that Kubuntu have such an easy going and flexible design.. but also because I have yet to stumble into a problem I can't find help with through this channel. And whenever I've asked about something - I've always gotten an answer from a helpful soul... and when you need to dive head-deep into something so radical as switching from windows to linux as a desktop workstation
[03:35] <Melsen> on safe ground" by having a channel of helpful people
[03:35] <ubijtsa2> I already do
[03:35] <Melsen> if you know what I mean.
[03:36] <ubijtsa2> here at work there is terminal server I can use for the stuff that really require windoze
[03:36] <Melsen> ha! I got a citrix server here for the same purpose ubijtsa2 :)
[03:36] <ubijtsa2> Melsen: we try and help, if we can.. :)
[03:36] <tomas_> people
[03:36] <tomas_> i need help :'(
[03:36] <tomas_> i want to get my handycam working :'(
[03:36] <ubijtsa2> tomas_: fire away
[03:37] <tomas_> it has a firewire connection :gonk:
[03:37] <Melsen> RDP works fine...... =) I had a little trouble getting the citrix client working, but - I found a website that said I had to make a symbolic link to a library
[03:37] <tomas_> and i have no idea how to make it work
[03:37] <Melsen> and then it worked
[03:37] <ubijtsa2> Melsen: that is good
[03:37] <Melsen> ya :P
[03:37] <tomas_> ubijtsa2: what should i do?
[03:38] <tomas_> :/
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[03:38] <tomas_> has anyone any clue?
[03:38] <ubijtsa2> someone else may well do though
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> I don't have firewire
[03:38] <tomas_> it has usb too
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> my box is at least 5 years old
[03:38] <tomas_> but i have heard that there is no video editing tools in linux that supports it
[03:38] <NRG88> how do i check the dependencies of a package in wine?
[03:38] <NRG88> sudo apt-get... ?
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: apt-get takes care of that
[03:39] <NRG88> i meain apt
[03:39] <hatake_kakashi> yes.. sudo apt-get
[03:39] <tomas_> oki
[03:39] <fit4lfe> why is it that everytime I restart ubuntu not just xwindows but the whole machine I have to install the nvidia pkg2 again
[03:39] <tomas_> have a nice day folks
[03:39] <Melsen> done!
[03:39] <NRG88> but i only want to check it, etc
[03:39] <tomas_> btw :P
[03:39] <hatake_kakashi> tomas_: nfi
[03:39] <ubijtsa2> tomas_: you can use google and search for the pci id's of the device (or the USB id's)
[03:39] <fit4lfe> like it won't save the settings on a restart ?>
[03:39] <fit4lfe> I don't understand
[03:39] <tomas_> THE CUPSproblem
[03:39] <tomas_> in dapper drake
[03:39] <Melsen> hey jpatrick : It's finished now.... with a full dist-upgrade? Do I need to reboot now to run 3.5.x KDE or?
[03:39] <tomas_> cups doesnt respond :/
[03:40] <jpatrick> Melsen: log out then back in
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> tomas_: heh I'm on breezy
[03:40] <Melsen> jpatrick: Oki
[03:40] <Melsen> brb
[03:41] <tomas_> hatake_kakashi: me too, but not atm ;). running both breezy and dapper :P
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: you mean the standard nvidia package?
[03:41] <tomas_> take care folks
[03:41] <tomas_> bye
[03:41] <fit4lfe> yes
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> tomas_: well I'm not sure about the cups problem..
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> ffs
[03:41] <ubijtsa2> hatake_kakashi: see what I mean? :)
[03:41] <fit4lfe> everytime I restart xwindows doesn't start and I have to install the package again
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: nfi, wait, you are using ubuntu? why not try asking in #ubuntu as well?
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> ubijtsa2: lol I'm kinda seasoned to these sorts of stuff :)
[03:42] <ubijtsa2> impatient little sht weren't he..
[03:42] <divansantana> tomas_: Are you having cups problems? Seems to be a common problem! I had it too!
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> *shrugs* hence we were all born different
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> divansantana: too late
[03:42] <fit4lfe> I'm using kde though
[03:42] <fit4lfe> too
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: hmm
[03:42] <ubijtsa2> aye.. /me going back to preseed netinstalls
[03:43] <fit4lfe> not just gnome
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: iirc, once the package has been built and installed, it should have a module called nvidia under lsmod
[03:44] <hatake_kakashi> now, I don't see how restarting Xorg could cause nvidia.o or nvidia.ko to not load.. unless if you restarted the computer
[03:44] <fit4lfe> right I restarted my linux box
[03:44] <fit4lfe> can you not do thta and save the settings ?
[03:45] <fit4lfe> cause sometimes I have to with programs I can['t kill
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: you can make a script so that whenever it boots it loads the module
[03:46] <fit4lfe> just a bin/bash script ?
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: check your kernel log to see if it actually tried to load it, and check under init.d if there is something about nvidia
[03:47] <fit4lfe> k
[03:47] <fit4lfe> now what about programs freezsing like k3b
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> I don't think up till now, they wouldn't have a script that would load it
[03:47] <fit4lfe> so annoying
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: try running it through konsole or terminal window (gnome)
[03:47] <brad> crimsun: you helped me the other day with a sound problem.  The option line is setill set in the modprobe directory. You fixed the problem but yesterday my sound went out again, can you tell me again the commands that you had me run from cli?  I know I should have saved them.
[03:48] <fit4lfe> k
[03:48] <fit4lfe> should be better that way then actually calling it from the desktop ?
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> brad: by default if you used bash, it would save a log under ~/.bash_history
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> fit4lfe: not really, sometimes it may work, sometimes its slow, other times it may not work, or that it does not show any debug messages
[03:49] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  I checked that
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> brad: under root's ?
[03:49] <brad> but since I ran the commands with sudo they didn't show up
[03:49] <fit4lfe> is the upgrade to 3.5.1 a crucial upgrade ?
[03:49] <brad> i checked the bash_history under root and my username
[03:49] <brad> and I didn't see them
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> brad: hmm
[03:50] <brad> it was some kind of modprobe thing where I tested differnt parms
[03:50] <brad> i rellay wish I had saved them
[03:50] <hatake_kakashi> yeah, modprobe loads and unloads the modules imo
[03:50] <brad> yeah
[03:50] <brad> he had a command where I could test that to see what i needed
[03:50] <hatake_kakashi> brad: do lspci and look for a sound card
[03:50] <hatake_kakashi> ahh
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> with modprobe? maybe man modprobe might help
[03:51] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  it shows up in tere when i do lspci
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> brad: ok, you need to get that info and then maybe look under the kernel modules (prebuilt modules) for it
[03:52] <hatake_kakashi> I wonder if depmod might work
[03:53] <hatake_kakashi> brad: which soundcard is it anyway?
[03:53] <brad> via
[03:54] <benkong2> can kde 3.5 be installed on kubuntu?
[03:54] <jpatrick> benkong2: yes
[03:54] <jpatrick> and KDE 3.5.1
[03:54] <benkong2> jpatrick: docs in the wiki?
[03:55] <jpatrick> benkong2: /topic
[03:55] <benkong2> thanks
[03:55] <fit4lfe> anyvbody using vmware at all
[03:55] <hatake_kakashi> brad: did it involve typing depmod?
[03:56] <Authority> what is the preferred method of managing init scripts in Kubuntu?  (like chkconfig in RHEL or rc-update in Gentoo)
[03:56] <hatake_kakashi> for that command to look for modules that matches your machine?
[03:56] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  I don't remember but it might have
[03:57] <hatake_kakashi> brad: what is the exact full name of the audio card? I think I may have found it
[03:57] <benkong2> jpatrick: adept does not show kde 3.5 in the repos??
[03:57] <brad> hatake_kakashi: Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 A                                                udio Controller (rev 60)
[03:57] <jpatrick> benkong2: you have to enable the repo from kubuntu.org
[03:57] <benkong2> jpatrick...k let me check
[03:58] <hatake_kakashi> via82cxxx_audio.ko
[03:58] <hatake_kakashi> hmm, maybe not it, will keep on looking
[03:58] <brad> thank you
[03:59] <hayden> where can i get help mounting my fat32 partition
[03:59] <brad> hatake_kakashi: will this help
[03:59] <hatake_kakashi> wait a sec, that's using the ac97 chip, hm there should be one
[03:59] <brad> hatake_kakashi: options snd-via82xx dxs_support=2 <-- this is what i sended up adding to make it work
[04:00] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: mount -t vfat /dev/foo /mnt/foo
[04:00] <hatake_kakashi> brad: not sure, but you could try, I found the ac97 module though
[04:00] <hayden> what about in fstab?
[04:01] <benkong2> jpatrick: whoa is this a trouble alert kubuntu-desktop and many kde apps will be removed???
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: almost the same.. /dev/foo /mnt/foo vfat rw,defaults 0 0  (for every space from /dev/foo to 0 you need to use tab I think)
[04:01] <jpatrick> benkong2: :/
[04:01] <hayden> ok thanks
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: that's only if you want it read/write support
[04:02] <hatake_kakashi> brad: any luck?
[04:02] <hayden> ep
[04:02] <hayden> yep*
[04:02] <benkong2> jpatrick: will it still work if i let it unistall those items
[04:02] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  I don't know what to try
[04:02] <jpatrick> maybe...
[04:02] <hatake_kakashi> brad: ok try using the ac97 one first I think
[04:02] <benkong2> rats...indecision again
[04:02] <hayden> and the fat32 hex code in fdisk is 'b' right?
[04:02] <brad> hatake_kakashi: how?
[04:04] <brad> i'm looking in the alsa-base file in /etc/modprobe.d and there are a bunch of commands similar to the one I added I wonder if those are interfereing.
[04:04] <hatake_kakashi> brad: maybe modprobe snd-ac97-codec
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: I think so, check with fdisk
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> win95 LBA is the last I recalled
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> s/is/was
[04:07] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  I'm gonna try something
[04:07] <brad> thanks for the help
[04:09] <Melsen> !tell melsen about firefox
[04:09] <Melsen> !firefox1.5
[04:09] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:11] <NRG88> why can't i use wine? i get the following error:
[04:11] <NRG88> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[04:11] <NRG88>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[04:13] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  it works now
[04:13] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: use the run command
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> brad: with the one you suggested or the ac97 one?
[04:14] <brad> actually no
[04:14] <brad> i niticed that there was a .save file for the hardware and I put my option line in that file and it worked.
[04:15] <NRG88> hatake_kakashi: like run notepad.exe ?
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> brad: ahh ok, so it works now?
[04:16] <brad> yes
[04:16] <brad> i don't know why
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: yes, there is a run under the menu
[04:17] <hatake_kakashi> brad: maybe you used a file editing program and you didn't save it properly or somethign?
[04:17] <brad> hatake_kakashi:  I don't know
[04:17] <NRG88> hatake_kakashi: i don't have one
[04:17] <NRG88> do i need a restart?
[04:17] <NRG88> i've inlstalled wine a few minutes ago
[04:18] <NRG88> in konqueror, exe's are not recognized
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> brad: well, with vim that is the case, it saves a buffer or something
[04:18] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: you should have it under the K menu
[04:19] <hatake_kakashi> K Run wine
[04:19] <eazy> anyone knows how to make the mouse settings for 800 dpi stay in kcontrol? ...keeps going back to 400 after every reboot
[04:20] <Jaymac> any good Direct Connect clients around?
[04:20] <Jaymac> Not really a van of valknut
[04:21] <hayden> i get this error when i try make change a ntfs partition to fat32 in fdisk -> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[04:21] <NRG88> nothing happens
[04:21] <NRG88> ot is loadin, and nothing
[04:22] <NRG88> i entered wine /media/hda5/Programs/Totalcmd/totalcmd.exe for exaple, and it loads, and a few seconds later, exits
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> from that Run command?
[04:22] <staqen> i heard linus torvald is a bastard (torvalds himself is quoted to have said that). is that true, or is it figurative?
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> err Run comamnd
[04:22] <hatake_kakashi> s/comamd/command
[04:23] <dell500> what do i do if my ipod won't umount or eject?
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: I never tried, that before, are you intending to convert ntfs to fat32?
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> staqen: as in what did he say?
[04:23] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: use the mount command in konsole/etc to umount it with sudo
[04:23] <hayden> im having trouble formatting a partition to fat32, i want any data onthe partition gone
[04:24] <dell500> hatake_kakashi, use mount instead of umount?
[04:24] <NRG88> and now i get an error like:
[04:24] <NRG88> kdeinit: Can't connect to the X Server.
[04:24] <NRG88> kdeinit: Might not terminate at end of session.
[04:24] <dell500> hatake_kakashi, what you just said doesn't make any sense, i just said that umount and eject don't work, says the device is busy
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: you may as well use parted or cfdisk to delete it.. or even fdisk, delete that partition if you can, and then write to the disk, restart cfdisk/fdisk/parted and then make a new partition, and then write to the hard disk again, that should work I think
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: odd
[04:25] <hayden> hatake_kakashi: ok thanks alot, i'll give it a go
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: no, umount should unmount it, what error did you get if you tried unmounting?
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: ahhh
[04:25] <NRG88> i'm considering a restart
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: lsof| grep /dev/<location of where ipod is mounted>
[04:26] <dell500> sudo umount /media/ipod
[04:26] <dell500> umount: /media/ipod: device is busy
[04:26] <dell500> umount: /media/ipod: device is busy
[04:26] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: sudo lsof| grep /media/ipod
[04:26] <staqen> hatake_kakashi: search for "bastard" here: http://theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=29589
[04:27] <dell500> hatake_kakashi, what is that?
[04:27] <dell500> has 4 entries, 2 for myself and 2 for root
[04:27] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: it lists for open files, handy to see what programs has handle at what points
[04:28] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: and what are the apps that are using it?
[04:28] <dell500> omg
[04:28] <dell500> just because i was in one of the folders, hatake_kakashi, it wouldn't let me umount
[04:28] <dell500> now it just umounted once i went back into the ~/ dir
[04:28] <dell500> wierd shizzle
[04:29] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: yes, because you are on that directory and umount does not allow you to do that
[04:29] <dell500> wierd lol
[04:29] <dell500> hatake_kakashi, you know what gnupod is?
[04:29] <hatake_kakashi> to prevent you writing further files in and causing fs error
[04:29] <hatake_kakashi> dell500: never used it
[04:30] <dell500> crappy
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> staqen: interesting, going to see what OS are they running that website on, its probably some more MS propaganda imo
[04:32] <NRG88> how do i install sh files?
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> NRG88: sh ./foo.sh
[04:35] <hatake_kakashi> staqen: heh, have a read below at some of the users who later paraphrased what he said
[04:36] <NRG88> thanks
[04:36] <staqen> hatake_kakashi: i will :))
[04:37] <hatake_kakashi> staqen: if that paraphrase proved to be correct.. forgive my lack of tact but I would definetly also support that movement
[04:38] <hatake_kakashi> though I don't know about programming/debugging that well, I do know however, that many people are sitting on the other side asking for help, and sitting on their asses being a non helpful contributer
[04:39] <hatake_kakashi> as an old saying goes "be part of the solution"
[04:41] <_massimo> ttp://www.eurokiddies.com/index.php?referer=37460
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> _massimo: get lost spammer :p
[04:42] <buzzy> how can i write a floppy that i'll need under win?
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> buzzy: you have to make it fat16
[04:44] <buzzy> not 32
[04:44] <buzzy> hatake_kakashi:
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> I think mkfs.vfat may work
[04:44] <Nemezis> I have removed the KDE/Konqueror profile that comes by default with Kubuntu but I lost almost 99% of Konqueror's look...how do I restore KDE/Konqueror's default look?
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> 32 requires much larger fs rather than fat16
[04:45] <hatake_kakashi> buzzy: or you can try mtools
[04:46] <outlawreg> hi
[04:46] <Nemezis> anyone
[04:46] <Nemezis> I have removed the KDE/Konqueror profile that comes by default with Kubuntu but I lost almost 99% of Konqueror's look...how do I restore KDE/Konqueror's default look?
[04:47] <Xemanth^> W: GPG error: http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>
[04:47] <Xemanth^> W: GPG error: http://www.mirrorservice.org breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>
[04:47] <Xemanth^> what does that mean
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> Xemanth^: try regetting the file, if it continues to fail, someone has tampered the package
[04:48] <staqen> hatake_kakashi: "forgive my lack of tact but I would definetly also support that movement" -- which movement are you talking about?
[04:48] <hayden> hatake_kakashi: i tried deletign the partition with cfdisk, making a new one but when i try to mount it i get these errors 'mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda4,' 'VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda4'
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> staqen: the ideal that was from the paraphrase
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: you need to format it as well. mkfs.vfat
[04:49] <Xemanth^> hatake_kakashi: yop ill try
[04:49] <hayden> ahh thanks alot (me = noob)
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> hayden: everyone has to start somewhere
[04:50] <Nemezis> god damn it I ask this 30 times and no one answers
[04:50] <Nemezis> I have removed the KDE/Konqueror profile that comes by default with Kubuntu but I lost almost 99% of Konqueror's look...how do I restore KDE/Konqueror's default look?
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> Nemezis: nfi
[04:51] <Nemezis> hatake_kakashi: what is nfi ?
[04:52] <Xemanth^> hatake_kakashi: i downloaded from here and added: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php same problem
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> Nemezis: no fscking idea
[04:52] <Nemezis> is it really that Kubuntu sux that way
[04:52] <Nemezis> that much
[04:52] <Nemezis> I did what writes in the wiki and it made chaos
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> Xemanth^: are you sure you got the right key?
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> Nemezis: 'its built by humans for humans'
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> my dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy wasn't a clean upgrade either :P
[04:53] <Nemezis> hatake_kakashi: good point u got
[04:54] <Xemanth^> hatake_kakashi: now it works, it was just slow
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> Xemanth^: heh ok
[04:54] <Nemezis> then, why I dont have rpc.mountd ?
[04:54] <Riddell> Nemezis: it's on the FAQ on kubuntu.org
[04:55] <Nemezis> Riddell: I did it, and it is even worse
[04:55] <Riddell> Xemanth^: what deb source are you using?
[04:56] <Nemezis> Riddell: I did what it writes in the FAQ, no use
[04:58] <Nemezis> god damn it can Kubuntu sux more than this!?
[04:58] <Nemezis> no support, no community
[04:58] <Nemezis> fuck u losers, get use to losing !
[04:58] <trappist> bye
[04:58] <trappist> :*
[05:01] <jpatrick> what the hell was he on about?
[05:02] <trappist> something about living under a bridge and eating small children
[05:02] <hatake_kakashi> jpatrick: an usual impatient and ignorant person
[05:03] <hatake_kakashi> oh! my so-and-so got fscked! I followed the help and I ask for help here and no-one helps! this community sux! .. lame
[05:03] <MNO> hey whats the command to open up that graphical mixer in a terminal. something like xlsa
[05:05] <jpatrick> alsamixer
[05:05] <MNO> thanks
[05:08] <StR> Hi all
[05:09] <StR> in Kopete:  anyone is using the plugin for auto replace and add a dot at the end of each line?
[05:20] <StR> hello?
[05:28] <VincentMX> hi
[05:29] <maverick> hi
[05:29] <maverick> any c++ coders about
[05:30] <bobuse> StR: yes, it fonctionne
[05:30] <StR> fonctionne?
[05:30] <bobuse> StR: text remplacement works
[05:31] <bobuse> fonctionne was in my samples ;-)
[05:31] <StR> bobuse: the thing about the dot at the end of the line and the cappital at the beginning?
[05:31] <bobuse> but the end dot seems not worying
[05:31] <bobuse> working
[05:32] <StR> bobuse: so.. it is a general problem...
[05:32] <bobuse> maybe
[05:39] <hayden> how can i install w32codecs?
[05:42] <trappist> !tell hayden about restricted
[05:44] <bobuse> !w32codecs
[05:44] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:46] <eazy> anyone know how I can make the 800 dpi-setting for my mouse in kcontrol stay? keeps going back to 400 after reboot
[05:48] <hayden> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:49] <eazy> !800dpi ;)
[05:49] <ubotu> eazy: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:51] <gnumdk> Is there a way to go back to old media:/ behaviour in dapper?
[05:51] <gnumdk> hello first :p
[05:51] <eazy> k, think I have to be happy with 400 then :P
[05:57] <Borut> As start up in made webmail aspx??
[05:59] <Borut> http://webmail.aol.com/
[06:00] <Riddell> gnumdk: what old behaviour?
[06:02] <Borut> hmm
[06:02] <Borut> no loading webmail
[06:03] <Borut> Message beguile in polish
[06:03] <Borut> Im write in polish
[06:07] <rysiek> Borut: pisz na priva po Polsku o co biega
[06:07] <rysiek> :)
[06:07] <Borut> ok
[06:07] <alind> Hi, I'm having problems installing KDE 3.5.1. When upgrading the packages the upgrade breaks due to an error in the avahi setup script. Anyone else had this?
[06:08] <rysiek> Borut: shit, priv nie dziala, zablokowany z powodu spamu
[06:08] <rysiek> daj chwilke
[06:09] <rysiek> hey guys
[06:09] <rysiek> do you know a Kubuntu channel in Polish?
[06:09] <Borut> aha
[06:09] <Borut> to ci napisze ti po polsku
[06:09] <Borut> szybko
[06:09] <rysiek> poczekaj, bo sie moga obrazic ;)
[06:09] <rysiek> anybody?
[06:10] <Borut> mas GG lub jaki komunikator
[06:10] <Borut> ??
[06:10] <rysiek> gg:2906388
[06:10] <Borut> ok to pogadamy na GG
[06:10] <rysiek> daj swoj, bo mam zablokowanych nieznajomych ;)
[06:10] <Borut> 1317425
[06:10] <rysiek> ok
[06:11] <weedar> Krdc just hangs when trying to connect to the remote desktop, am I the only one experiencing this?
[06:11] <Skroten> Hi. kwifimanager says signal strength is 39, and it says "TOP". Is that 39/100? And how can that be top?
[06:12] <Borut> pisz teraz
[06:12] <Borut> bo zapomniaem odznaczy
[06:12] <Borut> dla znajomych
[06:13] <weedar> This is an english chanel Borat
[06:13] <weedar> sorry, Borut
[06:13] <Borut> sorry
[06:13] <Borut> channel polish its no help me
[06:16] <VincentMX> is there any way to remote login from my Kubuntu Box to my fathers Win2k pro box? it doesn't have terminal services like win2k server has.
[06:18] <luka74_> VincentMX: install VNC on Win2K box and use krdc
[06:19] <Borut> ok
[06:19] <Borut> danke
[06:19] <VincentMX> ok
[06:20] <luka74_> VincentMX: look for UltraVNC or TightVNC
[06:20] <Borut> ok
[06:35] <hayden> !nvidia
[06:35] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:39] <hayden> whats a game or app i can install to check my nvidia card is working properly
[06:39] <edward0> glxgears
[06:39] <edward0> comes with Xorg
[06:40] <edward0> guess you could try one of those nice opengl kde screensavers too
[06:40] <edward0> :D
[06:40] <hayden> k thanks
[06:42] <hayden> glxgears looks like it is going slow as
[06:42] <akrzywda> perhaps a stupid question, but what's the easiest way to upgrade my kubuntu from hoary to anything newer?
[06:42] <hayden> but the open gl screensavers all work at a good speed
[06:44] <VincentMX> akrzywda: you need to replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, and sudo apt-get update, and then, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <edward0> hayden: well glxgears can show you fps
[06:44] <akrzywda> VincentMX, ok, thx
[06:44] <VincentMX> np
[06:44] <edward0> hayden: you could install a game like enemy-territory q4 demo ut or something
[06:45] <hayden> ah yea
[06:46] <hayden> i installed an ran tuxracer, i was getting 25-30 fps with gf mx440
[06:46] <edward0> hayden: well I get 80 - 90 fps in et with my 440go 64Mb
[06:46] <hayden> whats the package name for the q4 demo?
[06:47] <edward0> hayden: you have to download it :)
[06:47] <hayden> not using apt?
[06:47] <jpatrick> hayden: what?
[06:47] <edward0> q4 demo you won't get anywhere with
[06:47] <edward0> q4 demo doesn't even run here
[06:47] <edward0> :\
[06:47] <edward0> hayden: filefront.com maybe?
[06:48] <edward0> aao/et/ut work nice with a 440go 64Mb
[06:48] <akrzywda> VincentMX, would you recommend using unstable version of breezy? how is it possible to upgrade to such one?
[06:48] <edward0> akrzywda: I am using that right now :)
[06:49] <akrzywda> edward0, how can I upgrade directly to his one from hoary?
[06:49] <edward0> akrzywda: VincentMX already answered that for you :)
[06:50] <akrzywda> edward0, ok, I thought it was for a stable version
[06:52] <edward0> dapper you mean?
[06:52] <VincentMX> akrzywda: if you want unstable version you need to put dapper there
[06:53] <edward0> just installed not quite familar with hoary/breezy/dapper :D
[06:53] <VincentMX> :D
[06:54] <akrzywda> oops, 653Mb to download for upgrading to breezy
[06:54] <edward0> just C-c it
[06:56] <VincentMX> bbl
[06:56] <edward0> btw what is katapult?
[06:56] <VincentMX> katapult is a way to start programs
[06:57] <edward0> how?
[06:57] <edward0> read the about stuff don't get it :D
[06:57] <VincentMX> press alt+space and type konversation for example
[06:57] <VincentMX> or konver will be enough even
[06:57] <VincentMX> you see?
[06:58] <VincentMX> cool eh?
[06:58] <edward0> what is alt+f2 for then?
[06:58] <edward0> o_O
[06:58] <VincentMX> don't know
[06:58] <VincentMX> that's the run command
[06:59] <edward0> same thing no?
[06:59] <VincentMX> no not the same
[06:59] <VincentMX> press alt+space and type "konver"
[06:59] <edward0> well anyways thanks
[06:59] <VincentMX> it will know you mean Konversation
[07:00] <VincentMX> np
[07:00] <edward0> I removed konversation :)
[07:00] <VincentMX> why?
[07:00] <edward0> because kopete has irc support :)
[07:00] <VincentMX> it works with other programs too btw
[07:00] <VincentMX> ok
[07:00] <jpatrick> heh
[07:00] <edward0> yes I started firefox extra thanks :)
[07:00] <edward0> etc..
[07:00] <VincentMX> ok
[07:00] <VincentMX> bbl
[07:04] <edward0> /wi mistik1
[07:26] <atreides> italiani?
[07:27] <Tm_T> jpatrick: see?!
[07:27] <Tm_T> jpatrick: atleast there was not any "tutti"
[07:27] <jpatrick> Tm_T: ROFL
[07:28] <Tm_T> haha
[07:28] <Tm_T> jpatrick: quite normal in finnish channels ;)
[07:29] <jpatrick> Tm_T: how many of them speak finnish?
[07:30] <Tm_T> jpatrick: italians? less than one in 100 000
[07:30] <Akurin> hey again
[07:30] <jpatrick> hello Akurin + Mez
[07:30] <Akurin> it worked
[07:30] <Akurin> except
[07:31] <Akurin> i couldnt get on the internet
[07:31] <Akurin> it was odd
[07:31] <jpatrick> Akurin: dead annoying but it's  being fixed
[07:31] <Akurin> ok
[07:32] <Akurin> well i guess i can w8 til then
[07:32] <Akurin> if i do install linux
[07:32] <Akurin> do i have to partition my drive
[07:32] <Akurin> ?
[07:33] <Akurin> well kubuntu anyway
[07:33] <Tm_T> Akurin: you prolly like to partition it ;)
[07:33] <Akurin> won't that delete everything i already have on my HDD/
[07:33] <Akurin> ?*
[07:34] <mike> FOrgive the silly question as konq causes my PC to freeze up. But are the nvidia drivers avaialble through apt-get?
[07:37] <Akurin> ??
[07:38] <wftl> Hello all.  Is there a preferred method of turning Ubuntu into Kubuntu? Other than reinstalling.
[07:39] <kkathman> wftl:  yes
[07:39] <kkathman> wftl:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <wftl> kkathman : Ah, too easy.
[07:40] <Akurin> >>
[07:40] <wftl> Thank you.
[07:40] <kkathman> np
[07:43] <dcwckd> can anyone help me quickly pleasE?
[07:43] <Akurin> won't that delete everything i already have on my HDD?
[07:44] <Akurin> if i partition?
[07:44] <tsdgeos> dcwckd: just ask
[07:44] <dcwckd> ok
[07:44] <dcwckd> im trying to upgrade to kde 3.5.1, ive added the source to my apt-get sources, and jdone a "apt-get update", but when i do an "apt-get upgrade" it holds all of the kde packages back
[07:44] <dcwckd> how do I upgrade KDE?
[07:45] <dcwckd> "apt-get install kde" ??
[07:45] <kkathman> dcwckd: apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:46] <dcwckd> i thought distupgrade was to go to new ditros?
[07:46] <dcwckd> like breezy -> dapper
[07:46] <kkathman> it is that also, but going from kde 3.5->3.5.1 requires it too
[07:46] <dcwckd> sounds awesome
[07:46] <dcwckd> good good
[07:46] <dcwckd> working
[07:46] <dcwckd> I just moved over to kubuntu
[07:47] <kkathman> its takes a little time for the upgrade
[07:47] <dcwckd> been using SuSE for almost 5 years
[07:47] <kkathman> dcwckd: yah Im running both myself
[07:47] <kkathman> both have their strengths
[07:47] <dcwckd> I agree
[07:47] <dcwckd> anyway, doing this wont upgrade to dapper
[07:47] <dcwckd> right?
[07:48] <kkathman> no, not unless you changed your sources to "dapper"
[07:48] <dcwckd> didnt
[07:48] <dcwckd> awesome
[07:48] <kkathman> yer fine then
[07:48] <dcwckd> thanks a ton
[07:48] <kkathman> np
[07:48] <dcwckd> signing off, need the bandwidth
[07:48] <dcwckd> thanks for the help
[07:48] <kkathman> cya
[07:50] <mandric> hello, i just installed breezy and can't get my screen res right.  display setting show 1600x1200 75hz but seems that is the virtual res since i need to pan around the desktop.  what tool should i use to fix this?
[07:52] <fumofu> hi
[07:53] <fumofu> do you know why when i try to read a video and external subtitle in xine it's crash?
[08:01] <Akurin> if i partition my HDD, won't that delete everything i already have on my HDD?
[08:02] <fumofu> it's depend if you format or not
[08:03] <Akurin> how so?
[08:07] <mike> Hi  - any ideas why the toolbar and menu fonts in adept aren't the same as those configured in the system settings?
[08:09] <icicled> that's cause its run under the roots profile i think
[08:09] <icicled> and not the current users
[08:09] <mike> ah good point
[08:09] <icicled> i solved it by enabling root user and logging in and setting preferences and the disabled it back
[08:10] <icicled> mandric: does your monitor support that resolution?
[08:10] <mike> Must be another way of doing it
[08:11] <icicled> yea maybe, but that seemed like the most logical option :)
[08:11] <icicled> though it is a pain whenever you switch themes for the current user
[08:11] <icicled> hmm, well, you could symlink the profiles
[08:11] <icicled> that'd work i think
[08:12] <icicled> not sure though
[08:12] <mike> It's weird - my fonts are set to 9pt but they're huge
[08:12] <icicled> for some reason all the fonts are huge on install
[08:12] <Knowerrors> Any dialup modem knowledgeable people around?
[08:12] <mike> ah ok
[08:13] <MeTa> hi all
[08:13] <icicled> hi
[08:13] <mike> Let's see if Konq will work without hanging my PC
[08:13] <MeTa> how can i upgrade my kde 3.4.3
[08:13] <MeTa> from command line
[08:13] <MeTa> i'm added the repositoryes
[08:13] <icicled> apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:14] <MeTa> but i think it's bad upgrading from kde
[08:14] <MeTa> dist!
[08:14] <icicled> i think i used that to upgrade
[08:14] <MeTa> ok thx i try
[08:14] <hellsing> apt-get update kdeand all the repositories
[08:14] <Akurin> should i format my HDD when installing kubuntu?
[08:14] <mike> What's the packages for mp3?
[08:14] <icicled> its on the wiki
[08:14] <hellsing> Akurin yes a partition is need
[08:14] <mike> Website says akode-mpeg, which doesn't exist
[08:15] <icicled> did you add the repositories?
[08:15] <mike> Which ones?
[08:15] <hellsing> w30codec and the other one
[08:15] <mike> no
[08:15] <mike> didnt know about those
[08:16] <mike> Is that on the website?
[08:16] <hellsing> read the faq
[08:16] <icicled> mike: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:16] <mandric> icicled: yes
[08:16] <icicled> under multimedia, restricted format
[08:16] <mandric> icicled: windows was just running at 1600x1200 60Hz
[08:16] <icicled> mandric: you might have to set a modline in xorg.conf
[08:17] <mike> Ah   I was using kubuntu site
[08:17] <mandric> icicled: but kubuntu is trying 1600x1200 75Hz
[08:17] <mandric> icicled: there used to be a tool that helped with modlines.
[08:17] <icicled> mandric: but its showing up where you have to pan right?
[08:17] <mandric> icicled: yes
[08:17] <icicled> mandric: what monitor model?
[08:17] <mike> I need a good modeline tool too
[08:17] <hellsing> me i wanna read a video and external subtitle with xine but impossible
[08:18] <mandric> icicled: 2001FP i think
[08:18] <icicled> there's a package called "videogen" in the repositories
[08:18] <icicled> someone try it out
[08:18] <thc> Hi! I have a very annoying problem, some some odd reason modprobe tries to load the wrong version of the nvidia official module every time. The right version is on my pc too, its just not loaded. i tried to exchange the versions, copy them over and what not, but each boot its the same problem ... ?
[08:19] <meta> re
[08:19] <Rayaken> hi, i got a little problem with my ati 9200 card. i got no 3d hardware accel. everything in the conf seemsm ok. the xlog says direct rendering enabled but glxgears says direct rendering: no.
[08:19] <meta> I'm during the upgrade...
[08:19] <Rayaken> any help would be appreciated
[08:19] <mike> Oh here we go - crappy sound through amarok
[08:20] <mandric> icicled: which repository? sorry, i'm still new.  strange thing is, i don't see any Hz stuff in xorg.conf.
[08:20] <icicled> mandric: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/545382
[08:20] <icicled> you'll have to put that in your xorg.conf
[08:20] <icicled> rather, modify your monitor section to match whats on the link i gave you
[08:20] <mandric> icicled: mmm
[08:20] <icicled> and then restart X, and it should work just fine
[08:22] <mandric> icicled: how do i restart X graceful (ie. not ctrl+alt+bkspace)
[08:23] <meta> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start|stop|reload|force-reload etc
[08:24] <icicled> yea use that sudo command, just logout first & switch to console & run that command
[08:24] <meta> you can this under kde...
[08:24] <meta> :)
[08:24] <icicled> =] 
[08:24] <meta> you mustn't log out
[08:24] <mandric> icicled: damn, "cannot display this mode" ... lemme double-check.
[08:25] <meta> you must to write to your notes this cmd, because you cant start kdm:)
[08:25] <meta> onyl if you do reboot
[08:25] <icicled> try the config listed at the bottom of this page: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes
[08:26] <Rayaken> i enabled LIBGL_DEBUG and started glxinfo. at the beginning it says that it can't find r200_dri.so. it searched it in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri. but the file is under /usr/lib/dri. any idea how to fix this?
[08:26] <meta> copy:)
[08:26] <meta> hm?:)
[08:26] <Rayaken> copy doesn't sound so good
[08:26] <meta> yes...
[08:26] <meta> :)
[08:27] <Akurin> but does anything oon my HHD get deleted, if i partiton? and do i need to format?
[08:27] <Rayaken> under /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri are the two files which were installed with the fglrx install
[08:27] <icicled> mandric: any luck?
[08:28] <mandric> icicled: trying ...
[08:28] <Rayaken> but i don't need fglrx. ain't working with my card
[08:28] <mandric> icicled: i think i'm just gonna reboot
[08:29] <visik7> anyone got lisa working ?
[08:29] <icicled> mandric: before you do that
[08:29] <icicled> run: sudo X -configure from console
[08:29] <icicled> and it'll produce a xorg.conf
[08:29] <mandric> icicled: looks better
[08:29] <mandric> icicled: yep, works. i just did kdm stop/start
[08:30] <icicled> =] 
[08:30] <icicled> good
[08:30] <mandric> YEAH
[08:30] <icicled> it's working great?
[08:30] <mandric> i can breathe. i don't have to use windows.
[08:30] <mandric> looks perfect
[08:31] <icicled> ok, good, you should change DisplaySize to 408 306 if you care about displaying paper sizes correctly n all
[08:31] <icicled> as listed in http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes
[08:31] <icicled> its just to help other programs work better
[08:31] <icicled> that's all
[08:31] <mandric> hrm, ok
[08:31] <mandric> will read that wiki page
[08:31] <icicled> off to study
[08:31] <icicled> g'luck
[08:32] <mandric> gracias!
[08:32] <icicled> i forgot how to say thank you in spanish, de nada?
[08:32] <icicled> err, i mean your welcom
[08:32] <icicled> anyway
[08:32] <ack> Hi, does Abuntu come wich Gcc pre-installed?
[08:33] <ack> kubuntu ;)
[08:33] <icicled> ack, i don't think any developing tools are installed by default
[08:33] <icicled> you'll have to install em
[08:34] <mandric> icicled: heh. yeah that works.
[08:34] <Spudchat> hi guys
[08:35] <Spudchat> what is better for an 866mhz box gnome or kde?
[08:35] <MeTa[OFF] > i think gnome is easier than kde in graphics
[08:35] <Spudchat> 377 MBs ram as well
[08:35] <MeTa[OFF] > but i'm dont know
[08:36] <Spudchat> hmm maybe ill install both and check it out
[08:36] <leafw> how can one copy verbatim one partition into another (dd command, I know) and then perform some sort of md5 checksum, to verify the accuracy of the copy?
[08:36] <leafw> does the partition need to be formated the same way?
[08:36] <mike> amarok: oss device is already in use?
[08:36] <visik7> leafw: fsck it
[08:37] <leafw> visik7 : fsck meaning, run a test for consistency on it, or format it ?
[08:37] <visik7> the 1st
[08:37] <leafw> ok
[08:37] <mike> What output plugin do you use for amarok? alsasink is the only one that works but it skips a lot
[08:37] <ClayG> I know that the defaut itnes settings want to keep the ipod current with the computer, what happens if you format your harddrive and forget. then install itunes? If you plug in your ipod will it suck the songs off since they aren't on the computer or at least present an option?
[08:38] <visik7> mike: artsink
[08:38] <ClayG> oops wrong channel sorry
[08:38] <mike> Oops dont have that one installed
[08:39] <mike> What package is that visik?
[08:40] <MeTa[OFF] > how can i set the su's password?
[08:40] <MetaMorfoziS> !chpass
[08:40] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:40] <MetaMorfoziS> !su
[08:40] <ubotu> I heard su is see !sudo
[08:40] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to set su's password
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> i want use su and su - commands
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody?
[08:41] <mike> visik7: What package is that in?
[08:41] <visik7> dunno man should be in it by default
[08:41] <mike> it's not installed by default
[08:41] <visik7> using xine engine I can select artsink
[08:42] <visik7> btw u should ask amarok questions on #amarok
[08:42] <mike> ok
[08:42] <visik7> try apt-get install amarok-arts
[08:43] <ack> i cant change my screen reolution, everything is big
[08:45] <visik7> but I repeat kubuntu install it by default
[08:48] <JeSuisMor> Everytime I try to do anything that inovles KDE and needing root it says "Su returned with an error"
[08:50] <JeSuisMor> Anyone have any ideas of what si going on?
[08:50] <visik7> run from the console
[08:50] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:51] <ErikTheRed> hello
[08:51] <ErikTheRed> so is there any reason why upgrading to the 2.6.15 kernel would lead to my cdrom drive not being detected?
[08:52] <ack> In apache should i have a bin directory where all my prgrams should be?
[08:53] <mandric> hello, i might be crazy, but i'm having trouble installing easyubuntu on breezy.  what's the trick? sorry, i'm now.
[08:53] <mandric> s/ow/ew/
[08:53] <mandric> i get a tgz file, unpakc it, how do i launch it?
[08:55] <ack> anyone around?
[08:55] <Akurin> hello again
[08:55] <Akurin> i just realized something
[08:55] <mike> So far kubuntu is annoying me - several crashes for me with adept and system settings
[08:56] <leafw> anyone on powerpc. How can I make a backup of the partition table, which is non-msdos like
[08:56] <Akurin> can't i use my iPod to use Kubuntu?
[08:56] <mike> And amarok crashes a lot
[08:56] <icicled> kubuntu is ubuntu
[08:56] <icicled> i suggest you folks check out www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:56] <Akurin> with KDE
[08:57] <ErikTheRed> Akurin: i believe amarok has ipod support
[08:57] <brexel> leafw: dd if=/dev/hda of=/home/user/backup count=512
[08:57] <Akurin> i meant
[08:57] <brexel> leafw: you can also use sfdisk
[08:57] <Akurin> can't i install kubuntu on my iPod?
[08:57] <icicled> ?
[08:58] <Akurin> then boot it off of that?
[08:58] <ErikTheRed> um
[08:58] <pussfeller> Akurin: you would prob wnt an svn version of amarok for ipod support
[08:58] <ErikTheRed> i've never tried booting ubuntu off of a usb hard disk before
[08:58] <ack> you can install kubuntu on ipods?
[08:58] <leafw> brexel : that backs up the MBR
[08:58] <pussfeller> which is doable, but a pain
[08:58] <ErikTheRed> i've heard that it can be done though
[08:58] <Akurin> o eff it then
[08:58] <brexel> leafw: yup
[08:59] <leafw> brexel : and sfdisk complains about "non-msdos signature in the table"
[08:59] <Akurin> i'll try another linux distribution
[08:59] <leafw> powerpc is odd
[08:59] <Akurin> thankx for the help anyway
[08:59] <leafw> that's all
[08:59] <brexel> leafw: just use dd
[08:59] <leafw> I have a dual boot system with macosx as well
[08:59] <pussfeller> any other distro is going to have weak ipod support natively too....
[08:59] <leafw> brexel : dd to coy the partition table, ok, but where does it live
[08:59] <pussfeller> but he will have to find that out :)
[09:00] <brexel> in the first 512 bytes of your hd
[09:00] <Jarr3d> should there be a /apache2/bin/ folder for apche with programs in it?
[09:00] <brexel> Jarr3d: no
[09:00] <Jarr3d> Is apache ALL done bye scripting?
[09:00] <brexel> ?
[09:01] <brexel> apache itself is a C binary
[09:01] <Jarr3d> ya...
[09:01] <brexel> apache can use programs via the common gateway interface (CGI) but usually you use scripts like php or html scripts, yes
[09:01] <Jarr3d> and how do i configure my server?
[09:01] <brexel>  /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:01] <brexel> you asked the same thing yesterday
[09:02] <brexel> maybe you should read some documentation :)
[09:02] <Jarr3d> I know, but i'm still not fully understanding it
[09:02] <Jarr3d> i'm completely new
[09:02] <brexel> what exactly don't u understand?
[09:02] <mike> Any way to remove open office without removing kubuntu-desktop package?
[09:03] <Jarr3d> How i configure my server to run my website
[09:03] <Tonio_> mike: nopr
[09:03] <Tonio_> that's not possible
[09:03] <brexel> mike: the kubuntu-desktop package is just a metapackage
[09:03] <mike> so I can't remove oo?
[09:03] <vge> yes
[09:03] <brexel> Jarr3d: put your site in the server's DocumentRoot
[09:03] <Tonio_> brexel: it is usefull to grab new deps added eventually...
[09:03] <vge> i mean, just remove the package
[09:03] <mike> I'm sure I tried this once and it removed everything
[09:03] <Tm_T> mike: so you can remove kubuntu-desktop package, you really don't need it
[09:03] <Jarr3d> so an example of that would be? /apache2/.....
[09:03] <Tm_T> mike: it doesn't contain anything
[09:04] <brexel> Jarr3d: look in apache2.conf for DocumentRoot
[09:04] <Jarr3d> ok
[09:04] <mike> Yes but I think the metapackage removes the whole desktop
[09:04] <Tonio_> Tm_T: it is very important to keep in memory to reinstall it while upgrading to a new distro version....
[09:04] <brexel> mike:  no
[09:04] <Jarr3d> and in kubuntu, what is populer for compileing webpages?
[09:04] <Tm_T> Tonio_: nah
[09:04] <brexel> Jarr3d: quanta is a graphical html editor
[09:05] <vge> Jarr3d: if you have installed apache2, try http://localhost
[09:05] <Tonio_> Tm_T: .... hum we don't share the same point of view on that point :)
[09:05] <brexel> Jarr3d: but any text editor such as kedit or vim or emacs will do
[09:05] <Tm_T> Tonio_: yes, regular user need it, I don't ;)
[09:06] <Tonio_> Tm_T: a personn that asks if he can remove it is certainly a regular user, or at list someone learning ;) I know you don't ^^
[09:06] <Jarr3d> local host works
[09:06] <Jarr3d> where can i get quanta?
[09:06] <Tonio_> Jarr3d: adept or apt-get
[09:06] <brexel> Jarr3d: sudo apt-get install quanta
[09:06] <vge> if you like wysiwyg programs install nvu too
[09:06] <Tm_T> Tonio_: aye, but, he asked if he can remove it, not should
[09:07] <Tonio_> Tm_T: hehe, you're playing with words
[09:07] <Tm_T> Tonio_: always ;)
[09:07] <razvan> soundcard configuration
[09:07] <mike> Is there a package for starting/stopping services?
[09:08] <brexel> mike rcconf
[09:08] <Tm_T> Tonio_: in my age it's most fun thing you can do with pants... and also without
[09:08] <Tonio_> Tm_T: interested in testing the kubuntu-desktop-settings I will submit for dapper ?
[09:08] <vge> try CTRL+ESC
[09:08] <Tm_T> Tonio_: hum, it prolly mess my settings, right?
[09:08] <Tonio_> nope
[09:08] <Tm_T> ok
[09:08] <mike> I installed apache and mysql - need to start the daemons
[09:08] <Tonio_> it will not replace your specifics
[09:08] <Tonio_> just create a new user to look at what is done
[09:09] <Jarr3d> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:09] <Jarr3d> E: Couldn't find package quanta
[09:09] <Tm_T> Tonio_: ok, throw in and tell what need to test
[09:09] <mike> qanta?
[09:09] <brexel>  /etc/init.d/apache|mysql start|stop|restart
[09:09] <mike> apache - I was looking for httpd!
[09:09] <Tonio_> Tm_T: I will write a changelog tomorow and let you know. it is not fully over yet
[09:10] <Tonio_> Jarr3d: did you activate universe repos ?
[09:10] <Jarr3d> maybe not?
[09:10] <Jarr3d> how?
[09:10] <leafw> can an ext2fs be converted to ext3fs easily ?
[09:10] <Tm_T> Tonio_: ok, show changelog too ;)
[09:10] <brexel> leafw: yes
[09:10] <Tonio_> Jarr3d: you really should have a look at the wiki, you'll get all informations you need to configure the package management correctly
[09:10] <leafw> brexel : how
[09:10] <Tm_T> Tonio_: you would like to test Kopete 0.12 ?
[09:10] <leafw> meaning, can I do that on top of the exisitng partition ?
[09:10] <leafw> without deleting it ?
[09:10] <leafw> preserving all the data ?
[09:10] <Tonio_> Tm_T: what's new ? I don't have much time for beta testing actually ;) although I generally like to
[09:11] <Tonio_> if the changelog is interesting, why not
[09:11] <mike> The system settings app is very buggy
[09:11] <Jarr3d> where do i look at the "wiki"?
[09:11] <Tm_T> Tonio_: just a sec
[09:11] <brexel> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_ext2_to_ext3
[09:11] <leafw> thank you!
[09:11] <Jarr3d> thankx
[09:11] <brexel> yw
[09:11] <Tonio_> Jarr3d: google : wiki + ubuntu or kubuntu...
[09:11] <almien> anyone know tricks to fix a broken apt-get?
[09:11] <Tonio_> archlinux wiki isn't for you :)
[09:12] <brexel> doesn't matter ^^
[09:12] <brexel> almien: how broken?
[09:12] <leafw> brexel : what is 'Arch' ?
[09:12] <Tm_T> Tonio_: biggest changes: http://kopete.kde.org/roadmap.php
[09:12] <Tonio_> Tm_T: looking
[09:12] <brexel> leafw: dunno i just googled it up for you ^^
[09:12] <leafw> :)
[09:12] <leafw> I googled too, but I dint' come acrooss that
[09:13] <brexel> " Arch Linux is an i686-optimized linux distribution targeted at competent linux users (read: not afraid of the commandline)"
[09:13] <brexel> i googled for "convert ext2 to ext3"
[09:13] <Jarr3d> ok another question...my screen resolution will only go 640x480 and i have it at 1024/768 before
[09:13] <brexel> <-- too lazy to read the tune2fs manpage ^^
[09:13] <almien> brexel: as in, it keeps complaining about something (unresolved dependancies in this case, but other things on other machines), then won't let you do anything to fix it because it encounters the original problem and quits before it gets around to applying the fix
[09:13] <twinoatl> hi
[09:13] <brexel> almien: have u tried 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[09:13] <Tonio_> Tm_T: interesting, but there is no killer feature that would make me stoping my actuall job ;)
[09:14] <Tonio_> send me the package and I promisse to test it this WE
[09:14] <twinoatl> I would like to know why buttons in web pages doesn't use the KDE theme (I use firefox)
[09:14] <Tm_T> Tonio_: heh
[09:14] <brexel> twinoatl: because only konqueror does that
[09:14] <Tonio_> Tm_T: "please" of course ;)
[09:14] <brexel> firefox is not affiliated with kde
[09:14] <almien> brexel: definitely - followed those instructions that apt-get gave me. it just gives up
[09:14] <Jarr3d> Brexel? can i change the root folder to anyone i want?
[09:15] <brexel> JaRuKat: DocumentRoot? yes
[09:15] <brexel> almien: paste the errors into http://kubuntu.pastebin.com and post the liunk pls
[09:15] <twinoatl> brexel: I know that, but anyway, a software should use the system default skin automatically I think
[09:15] <Tonio_> Tm_T: did you do a package, or may I have to compile it from source ?
[09:15] <brexel> twinoatl: kde != system
[09:15] <brexel> twinoatl: to the system kde is just some bunch of processes
[09:16] <almien> Uhm, I can't paste anything, as my computer (my main development PC) now can't even boot into X
[09:16] <almien> but I've got a sticky note:
[09:16] <brexel> twinoatl: if you wish everything to look ioke kde you must use kde programs :)
[09:17] <twinoatl> brexel: sure, but if I remember well, in Windows, if I set a background color in system seetings, lots of self made applications will have this background
[09:17] <almien> new libofx2 error processing, as it would overwrite /usr/share/libofx/dtd/opensp.dcl which is also in package libofx0c102
[09:17] <Tonio_> brexel: gtk apps are not so bad integrated with gtk_qt_engines
[09:17] <Tonio_> gtk renders way better on kde than qt on gnome :)
[09:17] <brexel> twinoatl: windows works pretty differently ^^
[09:17] <brexel> Tonio_: i know
[09:18] <brexel> Tonio_: but html buttons are not gtk
[09:18] <twinoatl> brexel: ok, thanks
[09:18] <Tonio_> brexel: correct
[09:18] <Tm_T> Tonio_: package
[09:18] <brexel> twinoatl: maybe you can find a firefox kde skin
[09:18] <Tonio_> Tm_T: nice ;) could you email me maybe ?
[09:18] <vge> hmm, are is the networking fixed in dapper allready?
[09:18] <Tm_T> Tonio_: about to start wrap up bit more polished packages
[09:18] <twinoatl> brexel: firefox themes does never change the buttons in webpages
[09:19] <Tonio_> no pb, we will proceed to a package exchange at the same time then
[09:19] <brexel> twinoatl: oh didn't know that ^^
[09:19] <Tm_T> Tonio_: so, I'll give a link as soon as this is ready ;)
[09:19] <twinoatl> brexel: strange, isn't it ?
[09:19] <almien> is a known problem on websites (ubuntu bugs), but the suggested fix is "remove gnucash" or "remove libofxw2" which of course, apt-get is refusing to do
[09:20] <brexel> twinoatl: i admit i would have expected that
[09:20] <twinoatl> brexel: why ?
[09:20] <brexel> twinoatl: i  mean i would have expected that the buttons match as well
[09:21] <twinoatl> brexel: yes, it is logical
[09:21] <hellsing> mplayer give me an error : alsa-control unable to find pcm 0
[09:21] <hellsing> did somebody have ab idea?
[09:21] <twinoatl> do you know how I can preload firefox when I load kde ? I would like that when I close firefox, it stays in memory too so that the next start will be fast
[09:21] <brexel> twinoatl: well programmatically it is understandable because the graphics toolkit doesnt need to have anything to do with page rendering
[09:22] <hellsing> twinoatl never close firefox
[09:22] <brexel> hellsing: seems your mplayer wants to use alsa but your soundcard support is configured with OSS
[09:22] <hellsing> it's will open it on next boot
[09:22] <hellsing> non everithing is configure with lasa
[09:22] <almien> hmmm....
[09:22] <twinoatl> brexel: a button is a button. It should not matter how it is displayed (web or gui)
[09:22] <hellsing> and i hve sond even with the error
[09:23] <brexel> twinoatl: nope, because application buttons have different features than web page buttons
[09:24] <twinoatl> brexel: sure, but from a user point of view, it should not matter after all
[09:24] <brexel> twinoatl: that's true ^^
[09:24] <twinoatl> brexel: ok brexel, thanks for your help :-)
[09:24] <brexel> yw :)
[09:25] <twinoatl> thanks Kubuntu too :-) I had a debian box and I do not regret anything
[09:26] <brexel> from the desktop's point of view to me kubuntu is the better debian :)
[09:27] <almien> too many distros assume you won't want it
[09:27] <brexel> really?
[09:27] <skypa> what file is to be created to force a fsck on next reboot again?
[09:27] <brexel> wmaker is nice
[09:27] <brexel>  /forcefsk
[09:27] <brexel> oh wait
[09:27] <skypa> ty
[09:27] <brexel> *think*
[09:28] <brexel> yes :)
[09:28] <brexel> in /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh:    if [ -f /forcefsck ] 
[09:28] <almien> once you find out that apt-cache search WindowMaker doesn't return any results because its package is called "wmaker"
[09:28] <skypa> again ty ^^
[09:28] <brexel> yw
[09:29] <skypa> I shouldn't have disabled the usual fsck in my fstab, now my journal is broken *sigh*
[09:29] <brexel> you can just rebuild it if the data are ok
[09:29] <brexel> (tune2fs -j)
[09:30] <skypa> which switch removes the journal?
[09:30] <skypa> seeminly a prerequisite for creating one
[09:30] <skypa> +g
[09:32] <brexel> skypa: not sure..i bet man tune2fs knows
[09:33] <skypa> well, I'm a little superstitious so I'll stick to the pre-boot fsck :)
[09:33] <brexel> ^^
[09:33] <brexel> i must say i prefer xfs
[09:33] <brexel> i have twice had data loss with ext3
[09:33] <brexel> never with xfs so far
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody know a good file manager?
[09:34] <brexel> and xfs is pretty fast
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> not konqueror and not krusader?
[09:34] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: graphical or shell?
[09:34] <thc> Has someone managed to get opera running on a amd64? .. there are no amd64 packages, so i tried "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture opera_*_i386.deb" but it wont find libpng even tho its installed .. any ideas ?
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> krusader is loading slow & crashes often
[09:34] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: bash
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> graphical
[09:34] <Tm_T> ach
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> mc is the better in bash
[09:34] <MetaMorfoziS> ach?
[09:34] <Tm_T> nothing =)
[09:34] <skypa> mh.. I think I might give xfs a try
[09:34] <brexel> hmm, nautilus?
[09:34] <skypa> ext3 really bugs me lately
[09:34] <ack> Why cant i copy and paste into /ext/apache2/ it denies me
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> nautilus is a filemanager?
[09:35] <_tiberius> I'm still havin trouble makin Firefox work on a 64bit
[09:35] <_tiberius> but then again i'm a noob
[09:35] <brexel> skypa: we have lots of servers with ext3 in my company and no probs but for some reason i seem to have bad luck with it
[09:35] <skypa> ack, you might wanna be root for that
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm nautilus is gnome based
[09:35] <brexel> yes MetaMorfoziS
[09:35] <skypa> or at least sudo
[09:35] <ack> skypa, how do i go root?
[09:35] <skypa> I second that brexel :p
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> and other?
[09:36] <skypa> open a terminal ack, and type "kdesu konqueror".. that'll give you a rooty filemanager
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> (I'm isntall nautilus)
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> and other, or twin panel filemanager?
[09:36] <skypa> be careful with it though :>
[09:36] <MetaMorfoziS> like totalcmd @ win?
[09:37] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: nautilus/konqui...almost any filemanager can work with 2 panels
[09:37] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: mc in a shell
[09:37] <brexel> still the fastest thing ^^
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> konqui howcan work in 2 panels?
[09:37] <brexel> or gmc if you want grafix
[09:37] <skypa> and a good example that fast equals ugly quite often :p
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i set it?
[09:38] <brexel> right click at the bottom -> split view
[09:38] <brexel> or go to settings -> load view profile -> midnight commander
[09:38] <brexel> konqui is REALLY configurable
[09:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone of you can take a look here?
[09:39] <brexel> it can look and act like almost anything
[09:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't understand why i can't execute the script
[09:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:7DgTeOPH5ucJ:www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/anim-2/OldFiles/models/scripts/obj2smf+obj2smf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
[09:39] <skypa> alright, time for a mind numbing "y" spamming fsck session
[09:39] <skypa> laters
[09:40] <MetaMorfoziS> I'm not found the load view profile
[09:40] <ack> how do i start apache gain?
[09:40] <brexel> Tallia1Kubuntu: what is that supposed to do?
[09:40] <brexel> ack: apache2ctl start
[09:41] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: then just use right click at the bottom ans split viwe
[09:41] <brexel> view
[09:42] <leafw> ack : any service lives at /etc/init.d/
[09:43] <leafw> ack : type sudo /etc/init.d/apache start  (or stop, or whatever)
[09:43] <ack> ok cool
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/vaze.png
[09:43] <leafw> see whether you need apache or apache2
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm in the settings...
[09:43] <leafw> they are different.
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> the rightclick at the bottom of the window, isn't work
[09:43] <MetaMorfoziS> no there any popup...
[09:43] <brexel> just a sec
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> but a little upper i have the default popupmenu
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[09:44] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox
[09:45] <ack> ok, now... when i add my webpage to the root... do i need to change anything so it knows to open which one?
[09:45] <GullyFoyle> WOOHOO! got ut2004 working!! 1 less reason to boot Winbloze!
[09:45] <mike> Is it possible to import into kmail from thunderbird?
[09:45] <MetaMorfoziS> ut2k4 is good
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> but the dfault nvidia package is too old
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> 7***
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> and the new is 81**
[09:46] <pm> why kde?
[09:46] <GullyFoyle> yeah but i'm afraid to mess  with a workinggame
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm try to install the new version and it fucksup my x and crash all things
[09:46] <MetaMorfoziS> so i'm reinstalled the full ubuntu @ 20minutes
[09:47] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: http://www.qwuh.com/xx.jpg
[09:47] <GullyFoyle> MetaMorfoziS: what's the cmd to echo the driver version?
[09:47] <brexel> 2 shots
[09:47] <brexel> here it looks like this
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm checked it in adept:)
[09:47] <MetaMorfoziS> brexel -> check moment
[09:47] <GullyFoyle> 7174 here
[09:47] <brexel> :)
[09:48] <brexel> ~ $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
[09:48] <brexel> NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7676  Fri Jul 29 12:58:54 PDT 2005
[09:48] <brexel> GCC version:  gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[09:48] <brexel> you can find it in /proc even if u compiled it yourself
[09:48] <_tiberius> anyone know how I can get the ATI Control panel working with the ATI proprietary drivers for a 64 system?
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> VIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7667  Fri Jun 17 07:01:04 PDT 2005
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> GCC version:  gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)
[09:48] <MetaMorfoziS> brexel i havent this menus yet.
[09:49] <ack> ok, now... when i add my webpage to the root... do i need to change anything so it knows to open which one?
[09:49] <brexel> hmm
[09:49] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: which kde version
[09:49] <GullyFoyle> NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86_64 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7174
[09:49] <MetaMorfoziS> 3.5.1
[09:49] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: might be these are some additional features?
[09:49] <brexel> konq-plugins probably
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i find?
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> konq.org?
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> ok go find
[09:50] <brexel> no it's a package
[09:50] <MetaMorfoziS> konq-plugins : installed
[09:50] <GullyFoyle> why should i upgrade driver if 'm not having probs?
[09:51] <brexel> hmm, sorry the i don't know why i have those menus and u dont :D
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> because the new driver is better in supporting the new cards
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> brexel: :D
[09:51] <brexel> well, my .kde dir is YEARS old...maybe its because of that
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> VIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-7667  Fri Jun 17 07:01:04 PDT 2005
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> GCC version:  gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> shit
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> sry
[09:51] <GullyFoyle> i have geforce 6600gt, will it improve performance?
[09:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm dont it want
[09:52] <brexel> :D
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> GullyFoyle: detto but not gt
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm don't know but i thik.
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> not laugh on my grammar:)
[09:52] <brexel> ^^
[09:52] <brexel> where u from MetaMorfoziS
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> Konqplus add some function to context menu of konqueror.
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> this package i wants!:)
[09:52] <MetaMorfoziS> I'm from hugnary:)
[09:53] <brexel> big hello from vienna/austria
[09:53] <brexel> neighbor ^^
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[09:53] <MetaMorfoziS> and where u from?
[09:53] <brexel> vienna :)
[09:53] <brexel> austria
[09:53] <wabble> has anyone tried dapper using different static ip's and network profiles on both wlan and wired eth cards? Does it work?
[09:54] <djzn> IS THERE a GTK-QT-ENGINE package for kubuntu?
[09:54] <almien> hmmm... not too impressed with nvidia it seems
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> oh!
[09:54] <GullyFoyle> now i gottaget a good JRE, this gic Gnu thingy is cr**. should i use Blackdown or Sun? i was reading that on amd64 Sun's mozilla-plugin doesnt work but that might be a dated post i read.
[09:54] <mike> Does anything work in kubuntu and not crash? Konq, amarok, system settings, mysql manager.......
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> my sister
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> live in vienna
[09:54] <mike> adept.....
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> we meets she once a month
[09:54] <brexel> nice :)
[09:54] <MetaMorfoziS> she has a 2years old boy:)
[09:55] <brexel> mike: you sure you don't have ardware probs? like memory?
[09:55] <brexel> brexel: the only thing that sometimes crashes on me is juk...everything else is rock solid here
[09:55] <mike> no problems with gnome + Fedora
[09:55] <brexel> hmm
[09:55] <brexel> that's odd
[09:55] <mike> I'll see if everythings up to date
[09:55] <brexel> MetaMorfoziS: sweet ^^
[09:57] <MetaMorfoziS> baah nautilus is tasty..
[09:57] <brexel> :)
[09:57] <brexel> maybe you're a gnome-guy
[09:58] <bigmouth> Hello, anzbodz wiling to help me?
[09:58] <MetaMorfoziS> where can i set nautilus to twinpanel?:)
[09:58] <bigmouth> z=y
[09:58] <GullyFoyle> doesnt nautilus open a new window for every level of directory? and can you change that?
[10:00] <bigmouth> I installed kubuntu on an "old" PC I'm going to give to a friend of mine.
[10:00] <brexel> GullyFoyle: that was a long time ago ^^
[10:00] <bigmouth> and I couldn't set up 3d accel on the graph card, an ATI Rage 128
[10:00] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox1.5
[10:00] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:01] <andreh> Hi, I tried to install mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de under my Ubuntu Dapper but it failed because of a missing directory called /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/defaults/extensions, I created it but then it symlinked /var/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/extensions/installed-extensions.txt recursively on itself
[10:01] <andreh> of course installation failed and now I can't even remove the package again
[10:02] <andreh> so how do I get my dpkg working again?
[10:02] <brexel> try dpkg -r --force-all packagename
[10:02] <andreh> no  that doesn't work
[10:02] <andreh> it just says post_removal exited with error code 1
[10:03] <brexel> delete the pre, post, remove, install scripts of the package in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[10:04] <brexel> or at least the postrm script
[10:04] <andreh> ah thanks that did the work
[10:04] <brexel> :)
[10:04] <brexel> you think i can get kubuntu to pay me for that? :D
[10:04] <andreh> it seems that this package is somewhat broken
[10:04] <brexel> i'd like that
[10:05] <MNO> Hi, does any one know why my videos are playing but theres no sound?
[10:06] <brexel> MNO: that can have a lot of reasons...more info...which player, which desktop environment...does sound work at all?
[10:06] <MNO> XMMS, KDE. Sound does work when playing mp3s
[10:07] <benkong2> every time i boot kubuntu kmix starts. How can I stop it?
[10:07] <brexel> ok, then you might need to configure xmms to use the artsd output plugin
[10:07] <icicled> does gnome release way too often or is it just me?
[10:08] <brexel> oh sorry MNO
[10:08] <brexel> i misread that
[10:08] <brexel> which video player are you using?
[10:08] <wabble> icicled: it's just you
[10:09] <brexel> or are u using xmms as video player?
[10:09] <icicled> i thought it wasn't but a week or two ago that they released 2.12.2
[10:09] <icicled> today 2.12.3 is out
[10:15] <Paradosso> hi, my kde 3.4.3 does not remember geometry-window specific settings that I set. I'm running kubuntu breezy. Any hints?
[10:17] <brexel> Paradosso: what does that mean exactly?
[10:20] <_djzn> IS THERE a GTK-QT-ENGINE package for kubuntu?
[10:20] <hollywoodb> you can set gtk apps to look like qt/kde apps in kcontrol (System Settings)
[10:20] <Paradosso> brexel, I want an app to start fullscreen , ok
[10:21] <Paradosso> I go to window specific settings, specify the desired geometry
[10:21] <Paradosso> then I restart it, it starts over like the last time
[10:21] <brexel> hmm, sorry i have no experience with tah...
[10:21] <brexel> that
[10:25] <trappist> Paradosso: you could try with kstart --maximize
[10:25] <_tiberius> anyone know of some better audio drivers than those packaged with kubuntu?
[10:26] <Paradosso> trappist, that works
[10:28] <bhna> _djzn: yes, gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[10:31] <jahon> hello all.  is there a way to used cached deb files from another directory?
[10:32] <brexel> jahon: move them to /var/cache/apt/archives :)
[10:41] <jahon> brexel:  do i need to tell synaptics or adept about the new changes?
[10:41] <brexel> no
[10:42] <brexel> they will look for packages in this dir first...if they are there they will use them, if not they woll download them
[10:42] <brexel> *will
[10:43] <brexel> (assuming the versions are the correct ones)
[10:46] <btn> When running - nm-applet, i get error: Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory 16x16/status16x16/stock/chart of theme gnome has no size field"
[10:47] <farous> nm-applet that is network manager under gnome right
[10:47] <btn> yep
[10:47] <farous> i run it here with no problems but under gnome only
[10:47] <farous> never used it with kde
[10:48] <btn> ic
[10:48] <farous> btn you might need to install some gtk themes though i do not know if it will work or not
[10:49] <btn> I've tried it on my normal ubuntu and gives the same error
[10:50] <farous> !networkmanager
[10:50] <ubotu> hmm... networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[10:50] <farous> follow the link ^    ^
[10:51] <btn> ??
[10:51] <farous> btn the link given by ubout
[10:51] <btn> How do you think I found out about it : )
[10:51] <farous> ubotu
[10:51] <jahon> brexel:  lol.  ok, coppying now.  and what about upgrading with ubuntu files instead of kubuntu files?  what is REAL difference in the 2 besides desktops?
[10:51] <farous> oh ok
[10:51] <btn> says nothin about gtk error
[10:52] <farous> btn and you are running breezy right
[10:52] <btn> dapper actually
[10:52] <farous> btn than i have no idea
[10:53] <brexel> jahon: nothing
[10:53] <brexel> jahon: except kubuntu installs 'kubuntu-desktop' by default while ubuntu installs gnome
[10:59] <maverick> hi all
[10:59] <maverick> any c++ coders in here?
[10:59] <_tiberius> not a very good one
[11:00] <_tiberius> wow, these audio drivers are terrible
[11:00] <SkrotFFS> What's up with kwifimanager? It says I've got "Ultimate" signal strength, but it also says I have signal strength '53'. 53 is the same as from iwconfig where link quality = 53/100. How can 53/100 be "Ultimate"?
[11:01] <_tiberius> Ultimate Strength, or ultimate connection?
[11:02] <SkrotFFS> It only says "ULTIMATE" under the bars
[11:02] <SkrotFFS> the tooltip says "the current signal strength"
[11:03] <_tiberius> hmmm
[11:03] <SkrotFFS> If I use alternate strength calculation i only get 20 and "GOOD"
[11:04] <ack> When using Apache in kubuntu is Apache2.conf where i configure my server?
[11:04] <brexel> if you use apache2 yes
[11:05] <brexel> if you use apache then it is /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[11:05] <brexel> (no capital A though)
[11:05] <ack> ok
[11:07] <_tiberius> anyone here runnin an ATi card with dual screens?
[11:07] <farous> _tiberius: running fine here
[11:07] <farous> there is a good howto on the forums though i used another one
[11:08] <_tiberius> farous: I've got mine running
[11:08] <_tiberius> I just wondered if you knew if it were possible to drag a window onto the second screen
[11:08] <ack> ServerRoot "/etc/apache2" should i change that?
[11:08] <_tiberius> so far my windows don't like to leave their monitor
[11:09] <farous> are you uising extended desktop or clone mode. I use the later now
[11:09] <_tiberius> don't know what i'm using
[11:09] <farous> do you have the same view on both screens
[11:09] <_tiberius> no
[11:10] <_tiberius> so i must be using extended
[11:10] <farous> one desktop complete the other than
[11:10] <_tiberius> um...i lost you
[11:11] <farous> _tiberius: there are too many modes depnd on how you set it up
[11:11] <farous> so one is when one desktop is just a completion (extention) of the other can be horizontal or vertical
[11:11] <NRG88> how can i add languages to the keyboard?
[11:12] <_tiberius> well mine are setup horizontal, and i can drag objects and files and such between them..but when i open an app on one desktop, i can't drag it to the other
[11:13] <maverick> anyone wanan chekc my c++
[11:13] <maverick> porgrame?
[11:13] <_tiberius> what kind of program is it?
[11:13] <farous> _tiberius: sorry have no exp with extended desktop
[11:13] <maverick> its a basic
[11:13] <maverick> websever
[11:14] <maverick> i made
[11:14] <_tiberius> i'm even more basic than that
[11:14] <maverick> oh
[11:14] <_tiberius> so i couldn't help you
[11:14] <maverick> :(
[11:14] <maverick> np
[11:14] <_tiberius> oh well, thanks anyway farous
[11:15] <NRG88> anyone know how can i add languages to the keyboard in kde?
[11:16] <NRG88> keyboard layout?
[11:16] <_tiberius> no idea
[11:16] <farous> hoped i was of more help _tiberius
[11:18] <hollywoodb> I'm trying to upgrade to kde 3.5.1, but apt-get keeps telling me juk will be held back, even with 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:19] <brexel> hollywoodb: sudo apt-get install juk
[11:20] <brexel> it does that when it needs to uninstall something to upgrade another thnig
[11:21] <hollywoodb> would be nice if apt-get list packages to be upgraded/installed in a tree format to quickly identify this type of thing
[11:22] <brexel> you can use aptitude or adept for such a thing i think
[11:24] <hollywoodb> brexel: adept justs lists the packages in alphabetical order, guess I'm not too familiar with aptitude yet
[11:24] <maverick> !pastebin
[11:24] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:25] <brexel> sry i never neede that feature yet i was just guessing one of these tools could provide that ^^
[11:26] <maverick> was for me
[11:26] <maverick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8318
[11:36] <MNO> Is it normal to have ~85 processes runnning?
[11:37] <ack> Can i use Kate to edit my .conf files?
[11:37] <farous_away> MNO: you are barely running any processes
[11:38] <MNO> Serious? Just that coming from Windows where I have 40 (and thats pushing it) 85 seems alot. doesnt it slow down the comp?
[11:38] <Tm_T> nope
[11:38] <tsdgeos> well, windows counts processes in a special and curious way
[11:39] <Tm_T> and also, totally different kind of processes
[11:39] <MNO> LOL K thanks. Also is there any way to get the bin icon on the Desktop
[11:39] <Tm_T> I have 227 processes running atm
[11:39] <brexel> ~ $ ps afx | wc -l
[11:39] <brexel> 97
[11:39] <MNO> Wow! Do you run it as a server or something?
[11:40] <NRG88> how can i add new keyboard layouts?
[11:40] <NRG88> languages to the keyboard?
[11:40] <brexel> on the conmtrol center
[11:40] <farous_away> 106 and am not running anything actually just few progs
[11:40] <brexel> kde makes many processes
[11:41] <NRG88> but i don't have anything in the Keyboard Model
[11:41] <ack> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apache2/apache2.conf.
[11:41] <ack> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[11:41] <farous_away> MNO: if you are using as a desktop i do not recommend to run it as a server
[11:41] <ack> what does that mean?
[11:42] <MNO> farous: Oh rite ok. One more thing (sorry im new) is a firewall required for linux? :/
[11:42] <farous_away> MNO: linux have a built in firewall. you can get a front end for it if you wana firestarter or guarddog
[11:43] <farous_away> MNO: firestarter is for beginners so is the one i recommend you use
[11:43] <LeeJunFan> MNO: that's like asking if it's required to lock your doors.
[11:43] <Xamlit> sup all?
[11:43] <MNO> LOL I spose. thanks
[11:43] <tsdgeos> NRG88: kde 3.5.1 ?
[11:44] <Xamlit> Okay... I'm truely a Linux newbie.
[11:44] <NRG88> yes
[11:44] <NRG88> kde 3.5.1
[11:44] <Xamlit> I am running Kubuntu Live CD
[11:44] <Xamlit> and its pretty fly.
[11:44] <LeeJunFan> MNO: Don't run any services you don't really need, only run them when you need them, keep them up to date, for starters and the firewall becomes pretty unneeded.
[11:44] <Xamlit> How can I mount my HD from linux?
[11:44] <tsdgeos> NRG88: i think there's a bug about that that needs some symlinking to work, search for it on the web
[11:45] <MNO> LeeJunFan: How do I keep it up to date. Do I just run system update wizard. thx
[11:45] <LeeJunFan> MNO: yep. That's pretty much it.
[11:45] <MNO> Awsome!
[11:46] <Xamlit> I think I've found my new home
[11:47] <Xamlit> Hey guys
[11:47] <Xamlit> can I ask a question
[11:47] <Xamlit> I hate to be one of those annoying kids who comes into IRC and only asks questions
[11:47] <Xamlit> but now once your on the other side of the fence
[11:47] <Xamlit> its different.
[11:48] <Xamlit> Anyone here?
[11:48] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: don't ask to ask, just ask. :)
[11:48] <Xamlit> ah
[11:48] <Xamlit> Right.
[11:48] <MNO> I agree Xamlit. Its hard to begin with :(
[11:49] <Xamlit> Okay.. how do I mount my HardDrive.
[11:49] <Xamlit> from the Live CD
[11:49] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: I'm not very experienced with the live CD but there should be a system icon on the taskbar, if you click that and then media it should be there.
[11:50] <Xamlit> Okay forget that... I'm just going to install Kubuntu on my HD
[11:50] <Xamlit> On that..
[11:50] <Xamlit> does it have a partition magic type program?
[11:50] <Xamlit> in the installation?
[11:50] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: if it's not there try opening konqueror and type "media:/" in location.
[11:50] <farous_away> Xamlit: live cd to see if your hardware is compatable. most of the stuff do not work you might try to mount it though
[11:51] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: the install is text based, but pretty straightforward, do manual partitioning and you can resize your windows partitions from there, defrag first.
[11:51] <Xamlit> Its a freshly formatted 120G
[11:51] <Xamlit> Only Windows installed
[11:51] <Xamlit> no other apps.
[11:51] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: is windows partitioned to use the whole 120?
[11:52] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: if so you need to shrink the fat or NTFS down so linux can make some linux filesystems on the drive.
[11:52] <Xamlit> Yeah it is.
[11:52] <Xamlit> can I do that from the Install?
[11:52] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: so when you get to partitioning just choose the partition you want to resize and enter a new size, it will be resized to make unpartitioned space.
[11:53] <Xamlit> Without data loss?
[11:53] <LeeJunFan> Then the linux partitions can be created in the unpartitioned space.
[11:53] <LeeJunFan> Xamlit: I've never lost data with it, but if it's important data you should back it up first.
[11:53] <Xamlit> Okay then..
[11:53] <Xamlit> I shoudl be back in about an hour then
[11:53] <Xamlit> Thanks all for the help.
[11:55] <sas171> hi, i want to strip a long mp3 file in small parts, what software can i use?
[11:55] <Set> winrar
[11:56] <brexel> or rar ^^
[11:56] <farous_away> 1de
[11:56] <Set> brexel, winrar just slipped out from me
[11:56] <sas171> he, and than listen to it on my mp3 player
[11:56] <brexel> kwave?
[11:56] <brexel> and then reencode?
[11:56] <LeeJunFan> sas171: you want to split it into 3 smaller mp3's you mean?
[11:57] <sas171> LeeJunFan: yes
[11:57] <sas171> sry for my bad english
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> sas171: there are a lot of apps that can probably do that if you search for sound edit with adept or something, I haven't done much audio editing and I forget what program I used when I did. But there are plenty.
[11:58] <sas171> ok, ill do that
[11:58] <LeeJunFan> kwave is likely able to do that.
[11:58] <sas171> thanks
[11:58] <sas171> but encoding takes to long, i have 3hours mp3
[11:59] <LeeJunFan> sas171: ouch, that is a bit much. Especially when you consider the space it takes as wave format to convert, edit, convert back.
[12:00] <sas171> thats what im talking about