[09:37] <derek[] > People, if you're using linux, please have a look here: http://derek.shorturl.com/temp/typeclarity_compare.html
[09:54] <klepas> derek[] : what OS do you run?
[09:54] <derek[] > I'm running Ubuntu 5.04, Gnome
[09:55] <klepas> okay
[09:55] <klepas> also take into considering that GNOME uses a different font renderer than KDE uses for example
[09:56] <derek[] > i see
[09:56] <klepas> therefore, noting that the upper example is "linux" is actually not really all that precise
[09:56] <klepas> it would be more accurate to write "GNOME
[09:56] <klepas> *"GNOME:
[09:56] <klepas> ack
[09:56] <klepas> can't spell this eve :)
[09:56] <klepas> also, GNOME runs under UNIX too, so you would get the same rendering
[09:57] <klepas> and finally
[09:57] <klepas> go to System -> Preferences -> Fonts and configure your fonts and their rendering how you see fit. :)
[09:58] <klepas> and one observation, "Is there a way to make the text render as crisp and fine (neatly kerned) as it looks on windows?"
[09:58] <klepas> what you're after is a actually a lack of a feature
[09:59] <derek[] > :)
[09:59] <derek[] > I know
[09:59] <derek[] > antialiasing
[09:59] <klepas> windows anti-aliasing is poor and therefore displays poorly
[09:59] <derek[] > when antialiasing is applied to smaller fonts, it looks 'blotted'
[09:59] <klepas> but yes, you can change rendering of anti-aliasing in the fonts configuration dialogue under GNOME
[09:59] <klepas> yes
[09:59] <derek[] > and I don't like it
[09:59] <klepas> because there are several areas which must not be blurred in a font
[10:00] <klepas> others may
[10:00] <klepas> at least with truetype
[10:00] <derek[] > ok, let me update the page
[10:00] <klepas> andyfitz can tell you a lot more about it (he does font design)
[10:00] <klepas> :)
[10:00] <derek[] > (and I did play with the font settings in gnome.. didn't help)
[10:00] <klepas> oh?
[10:00] <derek[] > also, note that the kerning is very bad
[10:01] <derek[] > bad kerning with antialiasing on small fonts can make it look horrible
[10:01] <klepas> yep
[10:01] <klepas> that is something you cannot fix under linux
[10:01] <klepas> because it's inbuilt into the fonts
[10:01] <klepas> and windows will have it too shortly (better rendering). iirc
[10:01] <derek[] > you mean antialiasing ?
[10:02] <klepas> yep
[10:02] <derek[] > damn :)
[10:02] <klepas> btw -> http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/images/gpl3-reloaded.jpg
[10:03] <klepas> :P
[10:03] <klepas> the GPL! Reloaded!
[10:03] <derek[] > klepas, refresh: http://derek.shorturl.com/temp/typeclarity_compare.html
[10:03] <klepas> featuring RMS and my arm
[10:04] <derek[] > ;)
[10:09] <klepas> derek[] : change your global gnome fonts (other than the monospace one) to bistream vera sans and then to size 8
[10:09] <klepas> :)
[10:13] <derek[] > ok
[02:50] <derek[] > Hi
[03:18] <derek[] > Hi
[03:18] <derek[] > How do you install a new ttf font in Ubuntu?
[03:29] <mhz> usually, with apt
[03:29] <mhz> or synaptics