[12:01] anyway our brilliant idea is to create ... 3 packages [12:01] youre not allowed to run apt from postinst ... (and it wouldnt work anyway) [12:02] guy on GNOMEFiles asked for feedback on a debpack he made. I think I'll run lintain on it and send him the results :D [12:02] ogra, v-c + v-c-mysql-local + v-c-mysql-remote [12:03] v-c-mysql-local || v-c-mysql-remote -> dependency on v-c [12:03] ogra, so then user could first run apt-get install vtiger-crm-mysql-local if he want to install vtiger locally and mysql-server as dependency [12:03] ogra, exactly [12:03] that will work ... [12:03] ogra, but then what if user will run apt-get install v-c first? [12:04] he can ... but will only have the plain non working frontend [12:05] aaaah.. [12:05] see cacti ... [12:05] so depencency is not v-c -> v-c-mysql-local..... but v-c-mysql-local -> v-c :) ? [12:05] yup [12:06] so cacti needs cacti-mysql-local ;) [12:06] heh [12:06] other way round ;) [12:06] cacti-mysql-local needs cacti ... [12:07] but cacti can be installed alone and you modify the config manually ... [12:07] sure but that's not the "debian way" right? [12:07] or ubuntu - "just works" [12:07] dunno ... it sounds sane and wont violate the policy ... [12:08] phanatic: in case you didn't recieve the mail, nanoweb is NEW [12:08] since cacti-mysql-local will still follow the policy and cacti itself is no DB app that has automatic configuration ... [12:08] raphink: thanks. i didn't receive any mails, just see nanoweb on my launchpad acc [12:09] phanatic: hehe [12:09] ok so.... I will create few packages - v-c-mysql-local - with mysql-server as dependency and with autoconfiguration stuff [12:09] phanatic: which is always nice to see :) [12:09] so it will get admin password from default maint account in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf [12:09] yup ... but note that it must be possible to override the autoconfig with a higher debconf priority [12:09] 100% automagic setup for user [12:10] and then v-c-mysql-remote that should allow user to define remote host with mysql up and running [12:10] raphink: yeah, now there are two of them :) [12:10] so admins who dont want autoconfig are able to override [12:10] yup [12:10] phanatic: :) [12:11] and finally v-c as just something that will install php/html/jpg/etc. stuff [12:11] ogra, vtiger is pretty weird because they cannot avoid autoconfig to use thins [12:11] this [12:12] ogra, because when you just unzip sources to apache directory and try to login to vtiger than it goes to 'install.php' page [12:13] ogra, that examines system settings and then sets up database connection [12:14] ogra, the thing with debian package is that it can only move this magic to debconf [12:14] sounds like mediawiki ... have a look at that one [12:14] ogra, so if you configure 'connection.php' with some postinst script then this 'install.php' will be filled with these values [12:15] that was my idea too marcin_ant [12:15] this install.php thing is annoying [12:15] ideally it would have to be launched as root [12:15] but that can't be done safely [12:15] raphink, I know that this install.php is annoying but I don't want to modify too much php code [12:16] I totally agree marcin_ant [12:16] raphink, it's enough to generate connection.php from postinst script [12:16] that's where this package is kind of a mess [12:16] yes, agreed [12:17] raphink, then if you got database configured and you got these settings in connection.php [12:17] raphink, then on install.php you only click "ok" and the only thing you can change is vtiger admin name and password [12:18] yes [12:18] that's the idea [12:18] why don't I get karma for uploading packages? *g* [12:18] raphink, I got it already but I had to decide what to do with mysql-server [12:19] ok [12:19] sistpoty: lol [12:19] sistpoty: karma is for people who need it, you don't ;) [12:19] sistpoty, wanna buy my karma ;) ? [12:19] raphink: hrhr [12:20] marcin_ant: no, I want my own... maybe I should file a bug against LP *g* [12:20] I love karamel [12:20] sistpoty, just a joke ;) [12:20] same here ;) [12:21] sistpoty, but in fact ppl sell stupid things such as weapon in games... so maybe add 'karma shop' to launchpad ;) [12:21] oh, maybe I could sell some of my karma on ebay :) [12:22] 100 pts of karma and one free wireless network cable ;) [12:22] raphink, another thing is that I got problems with this connection.php stuff... my scripts that generate values are ok [12:23] marcin_ant: one thing that worries me with generating this connection.php stuff from a script is when we'll have to update the package [12:23] raphink, but when trying to install or reinstall package [12:23] marcin_ant: are we sure we can still generate this file in the next version of v-c ? === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-79-22.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] raphink, apt-get says that "Not replacing deleted config file ...../connection.php' and it refuses to regenerate it [12:24] raphink, anyway I'll try to resolve this [12:24] marcin_ant: did you add this file as a config file in debian/ ? [12:24] now a serious question for a difference: worlded is in dep-wait on amd64, but I get no clue from the "buildlog": http://librarian.launchpad.net/1559726/buildlog_ubuntu-dapper-amd64.worlded_0.1.3-7build2.txt.gz [12:24] raphink, well not [12:24] really weird in it is: "sh: /dev/null: Permission denied" [12:25] raphink, because I got connection.template and I do some magic trick from dbconfig to generate connection.php [12:25] raphink, I'll try to work on this later [12:25] marcin_ant: ok [12:25] marcin_ant: I guess the package builds already? [12:25] raphink, now I want to try this mysql-server things [12:26] marcin_ant: upload it to REVU now imo [12:26] so we can begin to have a look at some stuff, even small details [12:26] raphink, yup but there is a lot of things I want to do and change - I got separate packages for themes - but not fully functional. and language packs... etc [12:26] and while you're working on this, some parts will already be fixed so you can be quite sure to have it in dapper [12:27] raphink, I'll upload it tomorrow [12:27] marcin_ant: do you use separate source packages ? [12:27] or do you have one big package source that generates lots of binaries ? [12:27] raphink, hmm propably for lang packs [12:27] I don't remember whether upstream had one tarball per module [12:28] raphink, but themes are from "big source" [12:28] good [12:28] marcin_ant: btw, what do you think of my answer to tim? [12:29] anyway I want to work on it for a few hours and then I'll upload to revu today at night or tomorrow morning [12:29] ok sure :) [12:29] marcin_ant: ping me when it's done [12:29] marcin_ant: if you can add debian/watch files, that'll help, too :) [12:29] to review mostly :) [12:30] to all motus except raphink: could you have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1628 ? :) [12:31] raphink, about answer - it's nice and I hope that I'll upload to revu soon and then we tim should decide what to do with bounty [12:31] phanatic: :p [12:31] marcin_ant: sure :) [12:31] raphink, afair he considered more money for this bounty so he could do something to make you and me feel better ;) [12:31] marcin_ant: would be nice to file an ITP on it, too [12:32] so all your work doesn't get lost when it's packaged for Debian [12:32] raphink: you already gave it a go ;) [12:32] raphink, another thing is that this is only beginng for me [12:33] raphink, I mean - my work with vtiger [12:33] marcin_ant: sure, and I hope you will maintain it [12:33] raphink, package is only first stage [12:33] raphink, what is ITP? [12:33] Intend To Package [12:33] this is in Debian [12:33] to tell that you're working on a package to be included in Debian [12:33] so people don't begin to work on it [12:34] marcin_ant: most of the programs we have in universe come from Debian [12:34] marcin_ant: so it someone in Debian packages v-c before you get it in [12:34] marcin_ant: your package will be overriden by the Debian one in Ubuntu [12:34] which would be a shame, after such a great work [12:34] raphink, heh it sucks ;) [12:34] so you better file an ITP or an RFP in Debian [12:34] raphink, it's by default? === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] ITP means you wna to get your packag ein Debian and maintain it there [12:35] phanatic: I'll take a look (in 15-30mins) [12:35] RFP means you wnat this package to be in Debian an dproposes your version, but they have to find a maintainer that is free to modify it before uploading it [12:35] sistpoty: thanks a lot [12:35] raphink, for example if my package in ubuntu is much better than debian one? [12:35] marcin_ant: there are about 16000 packages in universe, we are 40 MOTUs or so [12:35] we can't maintain them [12:35] raphink: can i use ubuntu's reportbug to file an ITP? [12:36] marcin_ant: we might make exceptions, but it's much better to just file an ITP or at least a RFP [12:36] phanatic: nope [12:36] phanatic: you have to be in a sid chroot ;) [12:36] marcin_ant, if its a ubuntu bounty i'd simply package a -1ubuntu1 version [12:36] raphink, SABDFL could hire me - I could work as MOTU (I think so ;) ) [12:36] ogra: how about if Debian packages it and then upgrades to -2 ? [12:36] so it wont be overridden by a debian package [12:36] raphink: that's bad news... [12:36] marcin_ant: MOTU is volunteer work [12:36] marcin_ant: it' snot paid ;) [12:37] it still wont be overrridden [12:37] ogra: why? [12:37] raphink, I know that... unfortunately ;) [12:37] marcin_ant: well there's a hope to be taken in as core deve [12:37] :) [12:37] dev [12:37] raphink, did you do manual merges the last weeks ? [12:37] ogra: no [12:37] hmm I did before UVF [12:37] see [12:38] ogra: so what? [12:38] manual merges result from XubuntuX versions ... [12:38] it'll be overriden in dapper+1 that's all? [12:38] they wont just get synced [12:38] ok anyway back to work.. and I'll upload package to revu tomorrow and I'l file this ITP [12:38] s/?// [12:38] nope [12:38] raphink, is there some url where I could read about ITP procedure? [12:38] ogra: unless we don't want it overriden, as this is the case with wesnoth for ex [12:39] XubuntuX versions never get overridden unless you told the ftpmaster to do it .. [12:39] marcin_ant: you'll need a sid chroot or system to do that first [12:39] ogra: oh ok :) [12:39] ogra: unless you take the new version from debian, check the diff and decide to apply the patches or not [12:40] raphink, hmm definetly not today... [12:40] thats why we want to keep the amount of xubuntuX packages small .. [12:40] marcin_ant: not urgent at all [12:40] raphink, or just sync the debian version ... but it wont get autosynced [12:40] ogra: so theorically, packages that got in from REVU should not be overriden [12:40] exactly [12:40] ogra: how about klibido then? [12:40] Tonio got a great verison in through REVU === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-244-232.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] who wants to write up an f-spot UVF exception request for me? [12:41] then the Debian version replaced it [12:41] with a trashy package like I hardly ever saw [12:41] before [12:41] and if you guys work on a bunty package i think your interest is not to have it automatically overwritten [12:41] of course ogra :) [12:42] ehh I also got a lot of pretty nice emacs packages... but they are not ready for revu yet - I use them... anyway need to go from irc now [12:42] reboot to dapper and try to fight with this mysql stuff [12:42] marcin_ant: great :) [12:42] hehe [12:42] marcin_ant: you know you could use a dapper pbuilder [12:42] instead of another system [12:43] marcin_ant: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [12:43] raphink, sure I know but I installed dapper so want to use from time to time ;) [12:43] takes about 10 miinutes witha good connection [12:43] marcin_ant: you could also set a dchroot with your installed dapper system [12:44] ;) [12:44] so you don't have to reboot [12:44] ;) [12:44] raphink: could i use this for reportbug? :) [12:44] phanatic: you can install a sid chroot [12:44] phanatic: and run reportbug from within it [12:44] works, I've done it [12:44] :) [12:45] raphink, sure but dapper is now my 'workstation' [12:45] ok [12:45] ok, i'll try to do that then :) [12:45] same on my comp marcin_ant :) [12:45] hope it doesn't use much disk space [12:45] raphink, I had to move systems few days ago so [12:46] raphink, so I had dapper + windows 2000 on one machine and mandriva on another... [12:46] marcin_ant: right now I work on tiber, sshed from my dapper machine, sshed from my sister's machine on which I'm connected in XDMCP from this laptop running knoppix in telinit 2 [12:46] that's the best option I found [12:46] lol [12:46] raphink, but then some ugly bastard broken udev packages in dapper so I had to install breezy [12:46] lol :) [12:46] that'd be Keybuk ... [12:47] raphink, and now I got dapper + breezy on one machine and moved windows to my old machine... [12:47] i have both, using a common /home dir :) [12:47] phanatic: beah, not a good idea ;) [12:47] phanatic, of course - the same here... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] raphink, who cares ;) === raphink used to share a /home between Ubuntu and Mac OS to get the same settings on XChat [12:48] lol [12:48] anyway... I need to go... and package, package, package ;) [12:48] see you [12:49] cya :) [12:49] good luck marcin_ant :) [12:49] raphink: why not? [12:49] phanatic: why not what? [12:51] why isn't the shared /home dir a good idea? [12:51] phanatic: because different systems with different versions of programs generate different settings [12:51] that might not be inter-compatible === susus [n=sz@p5089F088.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] okay, that's right [12:52] :) [12:52] now i'm using breezy only for grub management anyway :) [12:53] ok [12:54] phanatic: you're on K/X/Ed//Ubuntu ? [12:54] well frmo your packages I'd guess Kubuntu actually [12:54] wrong guess ;) [12:55] hmm [12:55] yeah I thought you were the one doing kblogger [12:55] but no, you did gnome-rdp [12:55] so ubuntu [12:55] ;) [12:55] that's right ;) [12:55] I guess ;) [12:55] hehe [12:55] talking about grub, would you like to package a ubuntu-grubsplashimages? [12:55] i have xfce installed, but that's for dapper only (gnome gets broken sometimes) [12:56] phanatic: I made a kubuntu-grub-splashimages package some time ago [12:56] and the idea that I have is that many people have double boots, at least with windows [12:56] and get a B&W boot screen, when there are great grub splashs around [12:57] i also use one found on ubuntuforums :) [12:57] so for dapper+1 (too late for dapper) I'd like to have ubuntu and kubuntu grub-splashimages by default [12:57] phanatic: yes you can install some because you're an advanced user [12:57] but most users won't hack their menu.lst [12:57] and we don't want them to [12:57] you're right [12:57] there isnt much reason to have a splash image for 2 seconds imo [12:57] unless you will only show it with the menu [12:57] not the default boot [12:57] tseng: I'm not speaking of the auto boot [12:58] I'm talking of people with doublt boots [12:58] raphink: so i could use your package to create one for ubuntu? [12:58] well more power too you, if its just as readable on all screens [12:58] many people still have windows [12:58] phanatic: I guess [12:59] phanatic: if you want to do it that is [01:00] phanatic: for sysinfo: there is still old fsf-adress in source, please talk to upstream to fix it (no packaging issue though) [01:00] i have to get some splashimages for gnome-look, right? [01:00] sistpoty: okay === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-66-28.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] phanatic: yes, there are some listed on the ubuntu wiki too [01:01] phanatic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork migh thave some [01:02] raphink: i think i'll have a look at your package [01:02] phanatic: it's archived on REVU, you can have a look at it there [01:03] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1163 [01:03] i already apt-get source'd it :) [01:03] hehe [01:04] any comment is welcome :) [01:04] phanatic: sysinfo is fine... I'll upload in a minute ;) === Toma- [n=haste@203-166-226-248.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] raphink: i've never been a regexp expert, so i have to understand all that first :) [01:05] sistpoty: thanks for your time [01:06] np [01:06] phanatic: hehe [01:07] everytime i see a sed command, i think of magic :) [01:07] hehe [01:08] but this one seems quite easy to understand [01:08] fortunately :) [01:08] good :) [01:08] it's not too complicate a set of scripts === Toma- [n=haste@203-166-226-248.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:10] omg, it's cdbs... another thing i have to learn :) [01:10] i used to package some years ago, and there wasn't cdbs that time... [01:11] phanatic: cdbs is very easy [01:11] leave it as such and it'll work ;) [01:11] I think this debian/rules has only 2 lintes [01:11] lines [01:11] iircx [01:12] yeah :) [01:12] iirc all you have to do to make a package for ubuntu splashimages [01:12] but i like the verbose one... i like to see what it does you know :) [01:12] is to put the splashimages as xpm.gz in the root [01:12] yes :) [01:12] and update the name of the default one in the postinst script [01:12] rename the package to ubuntu-grub-splashimages [01:13] i'll collect some tomorrow, and upload the package to revu [01:13] and that's it [01:13] ok [01:13] :) [01:13] i also have to work on my app :) [01:13] still under heavy development [01:13] what is your app phanatic ? [01:13] gbzr [01:13] gui for bzr [01:14] :) [01:14] nice [01:14] :) [01:15] W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/chroot dpkg --force-depends --install [01:15] i get this while trying to build a sid chroot === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] debootstrap [01:16] any ideas how to workaroung this? simply running as root? [01:16] eh? [01:17] i'll try [01:17] phanatic: you won't be able to chroot as non-root, will you? [01:17] yeah [01:18] debootstrap doesn't use sudo [01:18] i run it now as root [01:18] done :) === pietrus [n=pietrus@c92583d3.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pietrus [n=pietrus@c92583d3.virtua.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === RustyJames [i=miomeinm@dslb-082-083-006-042.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^_ [n=j@e178045147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] when i file an ITP against my package in ubuntu, shall i point them to the source package in ubuntu? [01:32] if you file an ITP, it means you want to maintain it in debian === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] ajmitch_: then i also have to find a dd to support it right? [01:36] to sponsor uploads for you [01:37] last time i tried (3 yrs ago), it was really hard to find a sponsor :( [01:38] phanatic: file a RFP [01:41] Amaranth: ok === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dereks__ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] is there any way to just download a package and all it's dependencies as debs? === derekS__ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] chillywilly: apt-get has an option to do only the download (--download-only iirc)... [01:50] chillywilly: these will go to usual place /var/cache/apt/archives [01:50] right.......and if I do --reinstall it will grab the dependencies fresh if they're not in the cache? [01:51] chillywilly: I guess so, but I'm not sure about that one [01:51] fudge === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] anybody around? [01:58] LaserJock: sure [01:59] hmm, I've been asking some questions in #macosx and #darwinports and nobody has answered. I though maybe they couldn't see me :( === Kyral bops LaserJock [02:00] Kyral: what's about LaserJock... did he write s.th.? *g* [02:00] no [02:00] well, I'm having a heck of a time with OSX [02:00] I was proving I could see him by bopping him [02:01] Because usually to bop someone you need to be able to see them, right? [02:01] I guess so [02:02] argghh, I can't get X11 to work/install right [02:02] and everybody refuses to answer my questions it seems === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-66-28.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Creamier_Oak [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] is there an easy way to rebuild the kernel source for our existing kernel but not actually make deb for it but just have a configured and built source tree, e.g. 'make dep modules' ? [02:57] I have built this wanpipe driver but one of the modules complains about versions [02:58] driver/module [02:59] af_wanpipe: disagrees about version of symbol stock_register, af_wanpipe: unknown symbol sock_register [02:59] hmmm, actually it's probably missing something [02:59] chillywilly: you can install linux-source (or linux-source-VERSION)... [03:00] chillywilly: not quite sure if it contains the .config though (but I found it at least somewhere) and then you can make oldconfig [03:01] ok, I did that [03:01] and I also copied over the .config from /bot/config-BLAH [03:01] then ran [03:01] make menuconfig and saved it [03:01] then did sudo make dep modules and built the wanpipe drivers [03:03] chillywilly: and the built succeeded? [03:03] yea [03:03] chillywilly: and with your rebuilt kernel you can't load it? have you tried depmod -a? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] well I am not acutally rebuilding the kernel [03:04] just configuring it and building it but it's not being installed or anything [03:05] just built enough so I can build the wanpipe drivers against the source [03:05] but I am not sure the build I made matches the kernel 100% [03:05] chillywilly: did you change anything in .config? [03:06] I think I remember having to remove one wan driver because it failed to compile [03:06] unselect it [03:06] cycx.c had errors [03:06] not sure how I am supposed to fix that [03:06] if I grab the source package for my running kernel and use the same .config shouldn't I get the same kernel? [03:07] *sigh* [03:07] this has been one hell of a day [03:07] chillywilly: you should, if you use same compiler as well [03:07] I should just build the kernel and istall it? [03:07] is that what you're saying? [03:08] I'd give that a try... [03:09] yea I was hoping to avoid that [03:09] if you change anything within the .config, you'll get a slightly different kernel (and thus may have other symbols exported from the kernel) [03:09] can I tell what compiler my running kernel was built with? [03:10] cat /proc/version [03:10] I would think it would be gcc-3.3 === shaya [n=spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] different than the one I have instaled [03:10] just wondering if there's an eta on a new beagle? [03:10] hi crimsun btw ;) [03:10] 'lo sistpoty :) [03:10] gues I probably shouldn't be trying to take shorcuts [03:10] shortcuts too === sistpoty hopes my connection won't break down again after greeting crimsun [03:11] shaya: when it's ready :P [03:11] alright I'll buil the kernel, install it, and then rebuild my wanpipe stuff [03:13] lol, the best package FTBFS message so far: "make: Entering an unknown directory" === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ returns [03:30] chillywilly: you usually just need the appropriate headers package installed, unless the module does wacky things [03:32] well I have version mismatches [03:32] or some such thing [03:32] maybe I need to compile something else in, I don't know all I know is this sucks a lot :) [03:33] dapper? breezy? [03:33] 2 days down no website no email [03:33] breezy [03:33] wouldn't run dapper in production [03:33]