Drac[Server] | Is "0" unlimited? | 12:03 |
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Pygi | depends where | 12:04 |
Pygi | but probably yes | 12:04 |
Drac[Server] | Um... What do I do with "user www-date" and "group www-data" ? | 12:09 |
Drac[Server] | data* | 12:09 |
Pygi | just make sure you set right permissions on files | 12:09 |
Drac[Server] | Eheh... um... which files would those be? ._. | 12:09 |
Pygi | bah | 12:10 |
Pygi | /var/www I guess | 12:10 |
Drac[Server] | I told you I'm new at this... | 12:10 |
Drac[Server] | What would those files do? | 12:11 |
Pygi | buh, that is where you put files to host | 12:11 |
Pygi | for your web server | 12:11 |
Drac[Server] | Oh! Okay. Now I get it. | 12:11 |
Drac[Server] | /var/www/(user)/filesgohere right? | 12:11 |
Pygi | huh, you want a multi-user enviroment? | 12:13 |
Pygi | this can probably help | 12:14 |
Pygi | read this | 12:14 |
Drac[Server] | Well... I don't see how else I'd have multiple accounts with FTP access and stuff... | 12:14 |
Pygi | t see how else I'd have multiple accounts with FTP acce | 12:14 |
Pygi | bah, sec | 12:14 |
Pygi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMPForHoary | 12:14 |
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fmasi | can some one help me seting up my vsftpd i am a bit rusty and i trying to make anonymous aces to be able to upload but after some configuration i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8221 | 12:27 |
fmasi | please help me i nead to get unrusted | 12:29 |
Drac[Server] | When the mysql documents refer to the "hostname" do they mean what can be printed by the command that I can't remember at the moment? | 12:29 |
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fmasi | some one home ??? | 12:49 |
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Pygi | o, welcome fabbione | 09:49 |
fabbione | hey Pygi | 09:50 |
Pygi | long time no see | 09:50 |
fabbione | how are you? | 09:50 |
Pygi | tired :-/ too much non-sleep due to coding :-/ | 09:51 |
fabbione | ehe | 09:51 |
Pygi | :) | 09:52 |
Pygi | how's server comin' along? | 09:52 |
fabbione | working on it :) | 09:53 |
Pygi | great :-P | 09:53 |
Pygi | anything that I can help on? | 09:54 |
fabbione | Pygi: test install from daily cd would be great | 09:55 |
Pygi | k, will do...now tell me where to get it :) | 09:55 |
fabbione | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/ | 09:56 |
Pygi | k, I'll make it download now | 09:57 |
Pygi | Once I install it *these days I hope* you'll get reports | 09:59 |
fabbione | Pygi: keep in mind one thing | 09:59 |
fabbione | the reason why we need testing is because we did switch the archive managment software | 09:59 |
fabbione | iso's might be borked to death | 09:59 |
fabbione | or not working at all | 09:59 |
Pygi | k, no problem | 09:59 |
fabbione | that's the whole point of testing them :) | 10:00 |
Pygi | :) | 10:00 |
Pygi | also, are we going to provide more detailed /etc files? meaning *every* option in most crucial files explained? | 10:03 |
fabbione | i don't have time to do stuff like that | 10:03 |
fabbione | and i won't | 10:03 |
fabbione | if somebody wants to work on it, welcome to push me patches and i will apply them | 10:04 |
Pygi | ah,kk | 10:04 |
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lapo | hi | 12:21 |
fabbione | hi | 12:22 |
lapo | ubuntu kernel should run update-initramfs in postinst | 12:23 |
fabbione | it does | 12:24 |
lapo | I have machines with mpt hw and the actual initramfs doesn't contain the needed modules (bug?), so w/o updating the initramfs on kernel upgrade the machines won't boot anymore | 12:24 |
fabbione | lapo: file a bug in malone, but the kernel does update-initramfs | 12:25 |
lapo | fabbione, are you sure? | 12:25 |
fabbione | yes i am | 12:25 |
lapo | fabbione, the kernel update of 2 or 3 days ago, leave my test server unbootable | 12:26 |
lapo | fabbione, can it be lilo? does update-initramfs run lilo after updating the initrafs? | 12:26 |
fabbione | lapo: file a bug on malone. component: linux-source-2.6.15 | 12:26 |
fabbione | that's a completely different hook | 12:27 |
lapo | K, I'll do it | 12:27 |
lapo | fabbione, yes it is, but the result is the same :-) | 12:27 |
lapo | fabbione, should I file a bug against update-initramfs? | 12:30 |
fabbione | lapo: yes. | 12:30 |
fabbione | i don't think lilo is at fault here at all | 12:30 |
fabbione | since the hook that calls the update bootloader has been untouched for ages | 12:31 |
fabbione | and i would have noticed the breakage | 12:31 |
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lapo | fabbione, I think the problem is that update-lilo is run before update-initramfs | 12:32 |
lapo | so I get a panic on boot cause it cannot find the initrafs image (since it's changed) | 12:33 |
fabbione | nope | 12:34 |
fabbione | lilo is executed way later than that | 12:35 |
fabbione | open a bug on update-initramfs or lilo | 12:35 |
fabbione | also check that initramfs is of a reasonable size compared to the old one | 12:35 |
lapo | I think it's about 200k bigger, not that much | 12:36 |
fabbione | try to boot with the old kernel and run lilo manually and see if it helps | 12:36 |
fabbione | start excluding one bit at a time will help | 12:36 |
lapo | fabbione, no problem doing things manually, there's some automation which haven't worked | 12:37 |
lapo | I'll try reinstalling that kernel to see what happen | 12:37 |
fabbione | lapo: do one thing at a time | 12:38 |
fabbione | the kernel is installed, try to check if lilo config is right | 12:38 |
fabbione | and rerun lilo manually | 12:38 |
fabbione | see if that fix the problem | 12:38 |
lapo | I know the drill, I did it several times these days :-) | 12:38 |
fabbione | if it doesn't compare the differences between the initramfs? | 12:38 |
lapo | doing things manually works | 12:38 |
lapo | donig an apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-14-amd64-xeon | 12:40 |
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lapo | update-initramfs and update-lilo are in the correct order, lets reboot | 12:44 |
lapo | something wicked happend :-/ | 12:46 |
lapo | found out, my boot partion fs was corrupted, so it was not kernel nor lilo fault, sorry for the noise | 12:49 |
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fabbione | lapo: anyway.. your nick says it all :D | 12:50 |
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lapo | fabbione, my nick is actually my name (purtroppo) :-) | 12:51 |
fabbione | sucks to be you | 12:51 |
lapo | but I'm no way involved with fiat, elkan or so :-) | 12:51 |
lapo | eheh | 12:51 |
fabbione | ejje | 12:51 |
fabbione | ehe | 12:51 |
lapo | since you did that joke about my name, I'going to bug you about grub :-) | 12:54 |
fabbione | tsk :O) | 12:55 |
lapo | lilo is the only option for a sw raid1 + lvm setup (read no /boot partition), since lilo is a PITA and there are patches around for grub to support raid1+lvm setups, any caches to have them in? | 12:55 |
lapo | I think sw raid1+lvm is a common setup on servers, no? | 12:56 |
fabbione | lilo does not support /boot on LVM | 12:56 |
fabbione | you must keep /boot separate | 12:57 |
lapo | fabbione, are you sure? | 12:57 |
fabbione | lilo manages to install once | 12:57 |
fabbione | it will kill you at the first kernel upgrade in certain conditions | 12:57 |
fabbione | lapo: yes i am sure.. don't ask me if i am all the time :) | 12:57 |
lapo | lapo@posta:~$ sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda | 12:57 |
lapo | Password: | 12:57 |
lapo | # tabella delle partizioni di /dev/sda | 12:57 |
lapo | unit: sectors | 12:57 |
lapo | /dev/sda1 : start= 63, size=143363997, Id=fd, bootable | 12:57 |
lapo | /dev/sda2 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 | 12:57 |
lapo | /dev/sda3 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 | 12:57 |
lapo | /dev/sda4 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 | 12:57 |
lapo | so how can you explain this? :-) | 12:57 |
fabbione | please do NOT flood the channel | 12:57 |
lapo | sorry | 12:57 |
fabbione | lapo: because i read lilo code? and we had bugs for it that forced me to do it | 12:58 |
lapo | lilo does support booting from lvm, I'm currently using it | 12:58 |
fabbione | lvm1, not 2 | 12:58 |
fabbione | and only if certain conditions are met | 12:58 |
fabbione | the first time you will upgrade the kernel and the file will be fragmented across more than one PV you lose | 12:59 |
lapo | fabbione, yep but if the boot vg is only on one pv there are no problems using such a setup | 01:00 |
fabbione | right | 01:01 |
fabbione | it also depends how you set the lv but that's a more uncommon case | 01:01 |
fabbione | anyway grub supports boot from raid1, but not from lvm (in our case) | 01:02 |
fabbione | and i doubt we will pull in anything new and fancy for grub | 01:02 |
fabbione | we will probably get grub2 in dapper+1 | 01:02 |
lapo | grub2 is a myth :-) | 01:03 |
lapo | btw, the installer get confused in my case using preexisting partitions and vgs, it installs grub | 01:04 |
lapo | so a smarter grub can solve this problem too | 01:04 |
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