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Drac[Server] Is "0" unlimited?12:03
Pygidepends where12:04
Pygibut probably yes12:04
Drac[Server] Um... What do I do with "user www-date" and "group www-data" ?12:09
Drac[Server] data*12:09
Pygijust make sure you set right permissions on files12:09
Drac[Server] Eheh... um... which files would those be? ._.12:09
Pygibah12:10
Pygi/var/www I guess12:10
Drac[Server] I told you I'm new at this...12:10
Drac[Server] What would those files do?12:11
Pygibuh, that is where you put files to host12:11
Pygifor your web server12:11
Drac[Server] Oh! Okay. Now I get it.12:11
Drac[Server] /var/www/(user)/filesgohere  right?12:11
Pygihuh, you want a multi-user enviroment?12:13
Pygithis can probably help12:14
Pygiread this12:14
Drac[Server] Well... I don't see how else I'd have multiple accounts with FTP access and stuff...12:14
Pygit see how else I'd have multiple accounts with FTP acce12:14
Pygibah, sec12:14
Pygihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMPForHoary12:14
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fmasican some one help me seting up my vsftpd i am a bit rusty and i trying to make anonymous aces to be able to upload but after some configuration i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/822112:27
fmasiplease help me i nead to get unrusted12:29
Drac[Server] When the mysql documents refer to the "hostname" do they mean what can be printed by the command that I can't remember at the moment?12:29
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fmasisome one home ???12:49
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Pygio, welcome fabbione09:49
fabbionehey Pygi09:50
Pygilong time no see09:50
fabbionehow are you?09:50
Pygitired :-/ too much non-sleep due to coding :-/09:51
fabbioneehe09:51
Pygi:)09:52
Pygihow's server comin' along?09:52
fabbioneworking on it :)09:53
Pygigreat :-P09:53
Pygianything that I can help on?09:54
fabbionePygi: test install from daily cd would be great09:55
Pygik, will do...now tell me where to get it :)09:55
fabbionehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/09:56
Pygik, I'll make it download now09:57
PygiOnce I install it *these days I hope* you'll get reports09:59
fabbionePygi: keep in mind one thing09:59
fabbionethe reason why we need testing is because we did switch the archive managment software09:59
fabbioneiso's might be borked to death09:59
fabbioneor not working at all09:59
Pygik, no problem09:59
fabbionethat's the whole point of testing them :)10:00
Pygi:)10:00
Pygialso, are we going to provide more detailed /etc files? meaning *every* option in most crucial files explained?10:03
fabbionei don't have time to do stuff like that10:03
fabbioneand i won't10:03
fabbioneif somebody wants to work on it, welcome to push me patches and i will apply them10:04
Pygiah,kk10:04
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lapohi12:21
fabbionehi12:22
lapoubuntu kernel should run update-initramfs in postinst12:23
fabbioneit does12:24
lapoI have machines with mpt hw and the actual initramfs doesn't contain the needed modules (bug?), so w/o updating the initramfs on kernel upgrade the machines won't boot anymore12:24
fabbionelapo: file a bug in malone, but the kernel does update-initramfs12:25
lapofabbione, are you sure?12:25
fabbioneyes i am12:25
lapofabbione, the kernel update of 2 or 3 days ago, leave my test server unbootable12:26
lapofabbione, can it be lilo? does update-initramfs run lilo after updating the initrafs?12:26
fabbionelapo: file a bug on malone. component: linux-source-2.6.1512:26
fabbionethat's a completely different hook12:27
lapoK, I'll do it12:27
lapofabbione, yes it is, but the result is the same :-)12:27
lapofabbione, should I file a bug against update-initramfs?12:30
fabbionelapo: yes.12:30
fabbionei don't think lilo is at fault here at all12:30
fabbionesince the hook that calls the update bootloader has been untouched for ages12:31
fabbioneand i would have noticed the breakage12:31
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lapofabbione, I think the problem is that update-lilo is run before update-initramfs12:32
laposo I get a panic on boot cause it cannot find the initrafs image (since it's changed)12:33
fabbionenope12:34
fabbionelilo is executed way later than that12:35
fabbioneopen a bug on update-initramfs or lilo12:35
fabbionealso check that initramfs is of a reasonable size compared to the old one12:35
lapoI think it's about 200k bigger, not that much12:36
fabbionetry to boot with the old kernel and run lilo manually and see if it helps12:36
fabbionestart excluding one bit at a time will help12:36
lapofabbione, no problem doing things manually, there's some automation which haven't worked12:37
lapoI'll try reinstalling that kernel to see what happen12:37
fabbionelapo: do one thing at a time12:38
fabbionethe kernel is installed, try to check if lilo config is right12:38
fabbioneand rerun lilo manually12:38
fabbionesee if that fix the problem12:38
lapoI know the drill, I did it several times these days :-)12:38
fabbioneif it doesn't compare the differences between the initramfs?12:38
lapodoing things manually works12:38
lapodonig an apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-14-amd64-xeon12:40
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lapoupdate-initramfs and update-lilo are in the correct order, lets reboot12:44
laposomething wicked happend :-/12:46
lapofound out, my boot partion fs was corrupted, so it was not kernel nor lilo fault, sorry for the noise12:49
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fabbionelapo: anyway.. your nick says it all :D12:50
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lapofabbione, my nick is actually my name (purtroppo) :-)12:51
fabbionesucks to be you12:51
lapobut I'm no way involved with fiat, elkan or so :-)12:51
lapoeheh12:51
fabbioneejje12:51
fabbioneehe12:51
laposince you did that joke about my name, I'going to bug you about grub :-)12:54
fabbionetsk :O)12:55
lapolilo is the only option for a sw raid1 + lvm setup (read no /boot partition), since lilo is a PITA and there are patches around for grub to support raid1+lvm setups, any caches to have them in?12:55
lapoI think sw raid1+lvm is a common setup on servers, no?12:56
fabbionelilo does not support /boot on LVM12:56
fabbioneyou must keep /boot separate12:57
lapofabbione, are you sure?12:57
fabbionelilo manages to install once12:57
fabbioneit will kill you at the first kernel upgrade in certain conditions12:57
fabbionelapo: yes i am sure.. don't ask me if i am all the time :)12:57
lapolapo@posta:~$ sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda12:57
lapoPassword:12:57
lapo# tabella delle partizioni di /dev/sda12:57
lapounit: sectors12:57
lapo/dev/sda1 : start=       63, size=143363997, Id=fd, bootable12:57
lapo/dev/sda2 : start=        0, size=        0, Id= 012:57
lapo/dev/sda3 : start=        0, size=        0, Id= 012:57
lapo/dev/sda4 : start=        0, size=        0, Id= 012:57
laposo how can you explain this? :-)12:57
fabbioneplease do NOT flood the channel12:57
laposorry12:57
fabbionelapo: because i read lilo code? and we had bugs for it that forced me to do it12:58
lapolilo does support booting from lvm, I'm currently using it12:58
fabbionelvm1, not 212:58
fabbioneand only if certain conditions are met12:58
fabbionethe first time you will upgrade the kernel and the file will be fragmented across more than one PV you lose12:59
lapofabbione, yep but if the boot vg is only on one pv there are no problems using such a setup01:00
fabbioneright01:01
fabbioneit also depends how you set the lv but that's a more uncommon case01:01
fabbioneanyway grub supports boot from raid1, but not from lvm (in our case)01:02
fabbioneand i doubt we will pull in anything new and fancy for grub01:02
fabbionewe will probably get grub2 in dapper+101:02
lapogrub2 is a myth :-)01:03
lapobtw, the installer get confused in my case using preexisting partitions and vgs, it installs grub01:04
laposo a smarter grub can solve this problem too01:04
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