[12:03] Is "0" unlimited? [12:04] depends where [12:04] but probably yes [12:09] Um... What do I do with "user www-date" and "group www-data" ? [12:09] data* [12:09] just make sure you set right permissions on files [12:09] Eheh... um... which files would those be? ._. [12:10] bah [12:10] /var/www I guess [12:10] I told you I'm new at this... [12:11] What would those files do? [12:11] buh, that is where you put files to host [12:11] for your web server [12:11] Oh! Okay. Now I get it. [12:11] /var/www/(user)/filesgohere right? [12:13] huh, you want a multi-user enviroment? [12:14] this can probably help [12:14] read this [12:14] Well... I don't see how else I'd have multiple accounts with FTP access and stuff... [12:14] t see how else I'd have multiple accounts with FTP acce [12:14] bah, sec [12:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMPForHoary === fmasi [n=fmasi@200164158077.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:27] can some one help me seting up my vsftpd i am a bit rusty and i trying to make anonymous aces to be able to upload but after some configuration i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8221 [12:29] please help me i nead to get unrusted [12:29] When the mysql documents refer to the "hostname" do they mean what can be printed by the command that I can't remember at the moment? === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.35] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:49] some one home ??? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.155] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike [n=spike@unaffiliated/spike] has joined #ubuntu-server === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-server === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === Mercury_ is now known as Mercury === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === wongy [n=wongy@59.167.109.145] has joined #ubuntu-server === wongy [n=wongy@59.167.109.145] has left #ubuntu-server [] === morrow [i=aw@mailadm.in] has joined #ubuntu-server === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-247-20.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === lionelp [n=lionel@10.21.96-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:49] o, welcome fabbione [09:50] hey Pygi [09:50] long time no see [09:50] how are you? [09:51] tired :-/ too much non-sleep due to coding :-/ [09:51] ehe [09:52] :) [09:52] how's server comin' along? [09:53] working on it :) [09:53] great :-P [09:54] anything that I can help on? [09:55] Pygi: test install from daily cd would be great [09:55] k, will do...now tell me where to get it :) [09:56] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/ [09:57] k, I'll make it download now [09:59] Once I install it *these days I hope* you'll get reports [09:59] Pygi: keep in mind one thing [09:59] the reason why we need testing is because we did switch the archive managment software [09:59] iso's might be borked to death [09:59] or not working at all [09:59] k, no problem [10:00] that's the whole point of testing them :) [10:00] :) [10:03] also, are we going to provide more detailed /etc files? meaning *every* option in most crucial files explained? [10:03] i don't have time to do stuff like that [10:03] and i won't [10:04] if somebody wants to work on it, welcome to push me patches and i will apply them [10:04] ah,kk === allee_ [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === desti_T2 [n=desti@p50923B43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === lapo [n=bat@host166-243.pool8546.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:21] hi [12:22] hi [12:23] ubuntu kernel should run update-initramfs in postinst [12:24] it does [12:24] I have machines with mpt hw and the actual initramfs doesn't contain the needed modules (bug?), so w/o updating the initramfs on kernel upgrade the machines won't boot anymore [12:25] lapo: file a bug in malone, but the kernel does update-initramfs [12:25] fabbione, are you sure? [12:25] yes i am [12:26] fabbione, the kernel update of 2 or 3 days ago, leave my test server unbootable [12:26] fabbione, can it be lilo? does update-initramfs run lilo after updating the initrafs? [12:26] lapo: file a bug on malone. component: linux-source-2.6.15 [12:27] that's a completely different hook [12:27] K, I'll do it [12:27] fabbione, yes it is, but the result is the same :-) [12:30] fabbione, should I file a bug against update-initramfs? [12:30] lapo: yes. [12:30] i don't think lilo is at fault here at all [12:31] since the hook that calls the update bootloader has been untouched for ages [12:31] and i would have noticed the breakage === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:32] fabbione, I think the problem is that update-lilo is run before update-initramfs [12:33] so I get a panic on boot cause it cannot find the initrafs image (since it's changed) [12:34] nope [12:35] lilo is executed way later than that [12:35] open a bug on update-initramfs or lilo [12:35] also check that initramfs is of a reasonable size compared to the old one [12:36] I think it's about 200k bigger, not that much [12:36] try to boot with the old kernel and run lilo manually and see if it helps [12:36] start excluding one bit at a time will help [12:37] fabbione, no problem doing things manually, there's some automation which haven't worked [12:37] I'll try reinstalling that kernel to see what happen [12:38] lapo: do one thing at a time [12:38] the kernel is installed, try to check if lilo config is right [12:38] and rerun lilo manually [12:38] see if that fix the problem [12:38] I know the drill, I did it several times these days :-) [12:38] if it doesn't compare the differences between the initramfs? [12:38] doing things manually works [12:40] donig an apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.15-14-amd64-xeon === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:44] update-initramfs and update-lilo are in the correct order, lets reboot [12:46] something wicked happend :-/ [12:49] found out, my boot partion fs was corrupted, so it was not kernel nor lilo fault, sorry for the noise === fabbione sighs [12:50] lapo: anyway.. your nick says it all :D === fabbione couldn't resist [12:51] fabbione, my nick is actually my name (purtroppo) :-) [12:51] sucks to be you [12:51] but I'm no way involved with fiat, elkan or so :-) [12:51] eheh [12:51] ejje [12:51] ehe [12:54] since you did that joke about my name, I'going to bug you about grub :-) [12:55] tsk :O) [12:55] lilo is the only option for a sw raid1 + lvm setup (read no /boot partition), since lilo is a PITA and there are patches around for grub to support raid1+lvm setups, any caches to have them in? [12:56] I think sw raid1+lvm is a common setup on servers, no? [12:56] lilo does not support /boot on LVM [12:57] you must keep /boot separate [12:57] fabbione, are you sure? [12:57] lilo manages to install once [12:57] it will kill you at the first kernel upgrade in certain conditions [12:57] lapo: yes i am sure.. don't ask me if i am all the time :) [12:57] lapo@posta:~$ sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda [12:57] Password: [12:57] # tabella delle partizioni di /dev/sda [12:57] unit: sectors [12:57] /dev/sda1 : start= 63, size=143363997, Id=fd, bootable [12:57] /dev/sda2 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 [12:57] /dev/sda3 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 [12:57] /dev/sda4 : start= 0, size= 0, Id= 0 [12:57] so how can you explain this? :-) [12:57] please do NOT flood the channel [12:57] sorry [12:58] lapo: because i read lilo code? and we had bugs for it that forced me to do it [12:58] lilo does support booting from lvm, I'm currently using it [12:58] lvm1, not 2 [12:58] and only if certain conditions are met [12:59] the first time you will upgrade the kernel and the file will be fragmented across more than one PV you lose [01:00] fabbione, yep but if the boot vg is only on one pv there are no problems using such a setup [01:01] right [01:01] it also depends how you set the lv but that's a more uncommon case [01:02] anyway grub supports boot from raid1, but not from lvm (in our case) [01:02] and i doubt we will pull in anything new and fancy for grub [01:02] we will probably get grub2 in dapper+1 [01:03] grub2 is a myth :-) [01:04] btw, the installer get confused in my case using preexisting partitions and vgs, it installs grub [01:04] so a smarter grub can solve this problem too === lapo set bugging mode off === irvin_ [n=irvin@203.213.220.193] has joined #ubuntu-server === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === hunger [n=tobias@p54A635BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === [g2] [n=Tom@nslu2-linux/g2] has left #ubuntu-server ["Leaving"] === fmasi [n=fmasi@200164158077.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-server === ssa [n=ssa@h42n3fls304o1039.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike [n=spike@unaffiliated/spike] has joined #ubuntu-server === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-server === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-server === ajmitch__ [i=ajmitch@port161-160.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-server === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.35] has joined #ubuntu-server === mipe [n=mipe@252-36-124-83.dsl.3u.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === fmasi [n=fmasi@200164158077.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-server === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-254-6.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server