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| mhz | jdub: pin | 03:40 |
|---|---|---|
| mhz | +g | 03:40 |
| jdub | pong | 03:41 |
| jsgotangco | ta daaaa | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | jdub, ping? | 04:13 |
| jdub | jsgotangco: pong | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | jdub, yo! how are free are you in august? | 04:14 |
| === jsgotangco looks at wiki | ||
| jsgotangco | oh crap linuxworld | 04:15 |
| jdub | jsgotangco: dunno if i'll go to that though, long time between it and oscon | 04:16 |
| jdub | jsgotangco: what were you thinking? | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | we're doing an event over here in August, a community hackfest and RMS already confirmed | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | late august | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | was thinking of other people to invite and splurge | 04:18 |
| jdub | RMS? sorry, i'm washing my hair that night. ;-) | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | stallman | 04:21 |
| jdub | that was a joke. as in "stallman's coming? thanks but no thanks" | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:22 |
| mhz | lol | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | i knew you wouldn't heh just taking a chance | 04:22 |
| jsgotangco | dunno why the local folk are fascinated by it | 04:22 |
| jdub | ah well, one sniff and they'll get over it ;-) | 04:23 |
| jdub | sounds cool | 04:23 |
| jsgotangco | ok i'll just think of another event much cooler | 04:24 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:24 |
| jdub | no, no, dude, this sounds good | 04:25 |
| jdub | what date? | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | we don't have a specific date yet but its in August this year and we already have a campus known for its high-end labs sponsoring the event | 04:27 |
| jsgotangco | the nice thing is that this school runs its own hotel as well | 04:27 |
| jsgotangco | just across the campus | 04:28 |
| jdub | wow, handy ;) | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | *which is very nice* | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.dls-csb.edu.ph/ | 04:29 |
| jsgotangco | argghh flash | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.asiatravel.com/philippines/intercenter/index.html | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | i'll send you an email about it | 04:30 |
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| mhz | jsgotangco: I wanna see that!! | 04:50 |
| mhz | it must be paradise for geeks | 04:50 |
| mhz | you can play sports, use your box, see some girls, have some nice meetings, good internet..cool! | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | its a very expensive school though | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | but you get wifi all over the campus | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | and they got 2 labs of edubuntu | 04:53 |
| jsgotangco | (not ltsp yet though) | 04:53 |
| === mhz loves the idea os something like that in Chile | ||
| jsgotangco | mhz, do you live in the capital? | 04:56 |
| mhz | well, if Tecnocimiento gets to do what we plan, then we'll start the ITLA (Institute of Free Technology for LatinAmerica) and will defintaly have those features | 04:56 |
| mhz | but at not expensive costs | 04:57 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: yup | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | wow cool | 04:57 |
| === jsgotangco would like to go to south america sometime | ||
| === mhz would happily have jsgotangco here | ||
| mhz | as long as you dont get wasted as ollie :D | 05:00 |
| jsgotangco | wine, women and waltz as they say | 05:00 |
| mhz | www! | 05:00 |
| mhz | but you can get women with no wine | 05:01 |
| === mhz actually got this wife playing poker :D | ||
| jsgotangco | huh? you won her in a bet? | 05:02 |
| mhz | nope, man.. I let her win me :D | 05:04 |
| mhz | oopsss! puaj!! she won me sounds lot better than 'win+me' :D | 05:04 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: you need to come here and see how we treat women.. they are the bosses | 05:05 |
| mhz | we're servants | 05:05 |
| mhz | :D | 05:05 |
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| jjesse | evening :) | 05:12 |
| mhz | hi | 05:16 |
| jjesse | how are u? | 05:20 |
| mhz | just very tired | 05:21 |
| mhz | but I dont wanna go to bed because dapper devel status is in 3.5 hours | 05:22 |
| jjesse | too bad for me the are always in the middle of my night | 05:22 |
| mhz | always? | 05:34 |
| jjesse | i think they all have been at 0800 UTC correct? | 05:35 |
| mhz | hmmmm | 05:40 |
| mhz | nope | 05:40 |
| mhz | i dont think so, jjesse | 05:41 |
| mhz | but I have missed 99% of them :D | 05:41 |
| mhz | so i am not good reference | 05:41 |
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| mdke | rob, so you're interested in getting back into some docs? | 10:08 |
| mdke | good news | 10:08 |
| rob | :) | 10:08 |
| mdke | what were you thinking of working on? | 10:09 |
| rob | I guess I'll get stuck into the desktop guide again | 10:09 |
| rob | but I'm thinking I'll need my password reset as I *may* not still have my gpg keys | 10:09 |
| rob | but hold out on that, I haven't tried to import them etc yet | 10:10 |
| mdke | argh | 10:10 |
| mdke | you might still have the svn password around somewhere I guess | 10:10 |
| === rob broke his ubuntu over the christmas break | ||
| jsgotangco | bah | 10:11 |
| mdke | rob, you can always send patches in the meantime, I'll apply em | 10:15 |
| rob | yeah | 10:15 |
| jsgotangco | can i send patches to you too? :) | 10:17 |
| === mdke slaps jsgotangco | ||
| rob | hmm I think I just rm -rf 'ed my wifes email | 10:26 |
| rob | oops :( | 10:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ouch :/ | 10:28 |
| rob | lucky its gmail | 10:30 |
| jsgotangco | hmm | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | when was our last meeting? | 10:31 |
| mdke | two weeks ago | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | what happened there? | 10:32 |
| jsgotangco | that was probably 5am on my side | 10:32 |
| mdke | dunno | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | oh you werent there | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | ? | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | no one attends meetings anyway when i arrange one :/ | 10:34 |
| mdke | i can't remember | 10:34 |
| === jsgotangco sigh | ||
| mdke | the meeting agenda page should tell you | 10:37 |
| jsgotangco | i only see 1 entry | 10:37 |
| mdke | eh | 10:38 |
| mdke | that's for the next meeting, you want the old meetings | 10:38 |
| === jsgotangco thinks quality of -doc meetings degraded lately | ||
| mdke | we've had some good work though | 10:49 |
| jsgotangco | currently no plans for improvement though | 10:51 |
| mdke | well I certainly plan to try and improve the documents | 10:56 |
| mdke | i think others do too | 10:56 |
| jsgotangco | :/ | 10:59 |
| === Kamping_Kaiser likes doing doco, just cant hand the complexity of doing svn+diffs+stuff | ||
| jsgotangco | well the toolchain requires us so for now | 11:00 |
| jsgotangco | or else we'll have pretty bad translation jobs | 11:00 |
| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, it's pretty easy, we can help | 11:01 |
| mdke | svn diff > name.of.your.patch | 11:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | does that diff everything in svn? or just the working dir? | 11:02 |
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| mdke | Kamping_Kaiser, whereever you type the command | 11:07 |
| mdke | if you prefer you can do "svn diff filename.xml > name.of.patch | 11:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. *goes to have a play* | 11:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thanks :) | 11:08 |
| jsgotangco | im going to re-ogranize this project :/ | 11:09 |
| mdke | huh? | 11:10 |
| mdke | we need people to write docs right now, not reorganise | 11:10 |
| jsgotangco | no impact to current work, just some housekeeping :) | 11:10 |
| jsgotangco | if its ok with you :/ | 11:11 |
| mdke | sure | 11:11 |
| mdke | but if you want to write more, you can, that's all I'm saying | 11:12 |
| jsgotangco | huh? | 11:12 |
| jsgotangco | i've been updating my docs | 11:12 |
| jsgotangco | ! | 11:12 |
| mdke | yeah, i know | 11:13 |
| mdke | but you seem keen on doing more, so I was just encouraging you | 11:13 |
| jsgotangco | i've been doing a lot of writing lately that's why | 11:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | is the help written in docbook or xml proper? (i thought it was docbook, but this is an xml file) | 11:13 |
| jsgotangco | its always in docbook | 11:14 |
| mdke | docbook is a declaration of xml | 11:14 |
| jsgotangco | (with the exception of some yelp templates i believe) | 11:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so it says "xml version 1.0", and Doctype is docbook - that means that docbook is what we are working with? sorry, i havent used xml before | 11:15 |
| mdke | yes it is docbook xml | 11:16 |
| mdke | but you don't need to worry about what it is :) | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | just think of it as descriptive markup | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | for books | 11:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok :)... so follow how other people did it and it should be ok? then i asume run the validate.sh to check.. | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 11:17 |
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| mdke | that's right | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, can you modify the preview script when you have time to reflect edubuntu? | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | to publish as html | 11:25 |
| mdke | yes, which docs need doing? | 11:30 |
| jsgotangco | About Edubuntu and Edubuntu Release Notes | 11:31 |
| mdke | ok | 11:33 |
| jsgotangco | thanks :) | 11:34 |
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| mhz_food | jsgotangco: in our LoCo team smurf's server, we have ~/mailaddrs | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | ? | 02:50 |
| mhz_food | jsgotangco: i was told I can use that to provide email redirection @ubuntu-cl.org | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | i've heard | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | but we don't use smurf's server anymore | 02:51 |
| jsgotangco | we share servers with the brazilian team on a dedicated server | 02:51 |
| jsgotangco | i mean space | 02:51 |
| jsgotangco | (we admin on our own now but the server is still sponsored) | 02:51 |
| mdke | mhz_food, yes you can, just add them to that file | 02:53 |
| mhz_food | mdke: hehehe, you always there! | 02:54 |
| mhz_food | :D | 02:54 |
| mdke | not always :) | 02:54 |
| jsgotangco | we actually have so much space at the moment we can even run our own pop3/smtp | 02:54 |
| mdke | what do you want to know mhz_food ? | 02:54 |
| mhz_food | nice | 02:54 |
| mhz_food | the syntax, only | 02:54 |
| mdke | ok | 02:54 |
| mdke | assuming you want mhz@ubuntu-cl.org | 02:54 |
| mhz_food | for example | 02:55 |
| mdke | do: "mhz: your@email.address | 02:55 |
| mhz_food | duh!!! | 02:55 |
| mdke | without the ", sorry | 02:55 |
| jsgotangco | that's only a text file? | 02:55 |
| mdke | yes | 02:55 |
| mhz_food | and the MTA's service will automatically refresh? | 02:55 |
| mdke | mhz_food, that's right yes | 02:55 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, do you know how to build a pdf? I've tried but failed to install apache fop properly | 02:56 |
| jsgotangco | oh how neat | 02:56 |
| mhz_food | gee! I thought the syntax was that simple but two guys told me "each MTA's manages differently" | 02:56 |
| jsgotangco | mine doesn't run either | 02:56 |
| mhz_food | Moin2PDF :D | 02:56 |
| mdke | stupid apache fop | 02:56 |
| mhz_food | I had to do it, sorry | 02:57 |
| === jsgotangco kicks mhz_food | ||
| === mdke kicks harder | ||
| mhz_food | lol | 02:57 |
| mdke | this isn't moin! | 02:57 |
| mhz_food | mdke: i know.. it's just that jsgotangco was here and I had to tease | 02:57 |
| mdke | your obsession with moin is unhealthy :) | 02:57 |
| jsgotangco | apache fop is such a pain imo but jeffsch would disagree | 02:57 |
| mhz_food | mdke: thx for the help with mailaddrs | 02:57 |
| jsgotangco | speaking of PDF | 02:57 |
| mdke | np | 02:57 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, i'll mail jeffsch and ask him how to do it :) | 02:58 |
| mhz_food | jsgotangco: just to show the good looking CSS.. http://212.21.77.50/coredump/RecentChanges | 02:58 |
| === mdke debates mhz_food's definition of "good looking" | ||
| jsgotangco | mark johnson of debian wants to work on an xml->pdf toolchain for ubuntu | 02:59 |
| jsgotangco | but he said its going to be java for sure | 02:59 |
| jsgotangco | oh well | 02:59 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, ok, sounds good | 02:59 |
| mhz_food | mdke: oh yeas, you are right, very subjective issue | 02:59 |
| jsgotangco | at least not apache fop | 02:59 |
| mdke | i don't understand java at all | 03:00 |
| jsgotangco | mhz_food, hmmm what i want to do sometime when i have time is to extend moin like what henrik has been doing | 03:00 |
| mdke | i have like 5 different packages installed, and I have no idea what they do | 03:00 |
| mdke | and nothing works | 03:00 |
| mhz_food | jsgotangco: well, I have sent a 10 paragraph email to henrik yesterday so we can start working on it.. obviously it will take at least a day to respond to all my points :D | 03:01 |
| mdke | what are you working on? | 03:01 |
| mhz_food | mdke: you need xml 2 pdf ? | 03:01 |
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| mdke | yes | 03:03 |
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| jsgotangco | Interrogation? | 05:18 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 05:18 |
| jsgotangco | wiki? noooooo | 05:18 |
| jsgotangco | ok not a native speaker i can understand that | 05:19 |
| jsgotangco | bad choice of words though | 05:19 |
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| mdke | jdub, i've done some basic changes to yelp and sent them to the upstream mailing list to try and get their opinion. have a look: http://mdke.org/images/yelp | 05:35 |
| mdke | all I've changed is the colour of links and headers | 05:35 |
| mdke | so far... :) | 05:35 |
| jsgotangco | color changes depending on theme used? | 05:36 |
| mdke | yes | 05:37 |
| jsgotangco | cool we finally get a yelp hacker | 05:40 |
| jsgotangco | :D | 05:40 |
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| jsgotangco | good night | 05:46 |
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| ompaul | Burgwork, u about? | 07:51 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, sadly yes | 07:53 |
| ompaul | ahh don't be like that :-) | 07:53 |
| Burgwork | what can I do you for? | 07:54 |
| ompaul | are you in a position to copy thes source of the faq to something on the wiki so it keeps its formatting | 07:54 |
| ompaul | give me the name and I'll give it an hour or so | 07:54 |
| ompaul | I could then throw it back to you | 07:55 |
| Burgwork | the website faq? | 07:55 |
| ompaul | aye, its not in wiki format | 07:55 |
| ompaul | i.e. I can't edit it | 07:55 |
| ompaul | its locked | 07:55 |
| Burgwork | it is in moin format and I do have access to an editable copy, but I don't have the password yet | 07:56 |
| ompaul | okay | 07:56 |
| ompaul | want to shove it onto wiki where it could be addressed and then I'll say it you can rip it and we can kill that page | 07:56 |
| Burgwork | let me contact hendrik | 07:57 |
| ompaul | okay | 07:57 |
| Kaiser_Sleeps | night all | 07:57 |
| ompaul | ohh this evening I found the boot options so that is getting its own page in the next 3 mins :) | 07:57 |
| ompaul | night Kaiser_Sleeps | 07:58 |
| Kaiser_Sleeps | night | 07:58 |
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| Burgwork | ompaul, ping | 09:03 |
| ompaul | pong | 09:03 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, generally best to say "Burgwork pong" so that we get a hint | 09:04 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/FAQ | 09:04 |
| ompaul | thanks | 09:04 |
| Burgwork | edit to your hearts content and then I will move it back | 09:04 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, shall do what I can in the 3/4 of an hour | 09:04 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, whenever | 09:04 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, okay, I will hand it back to you in 18 hours or less | 09:05 |
| Burgwork | ompaul, just ping this nick when it is done | 09:05 |
| Burgwork | remember that I am not at this computer on Sat and Sun (hopefully) | 09:06 |
| ompaul | Burgwork, I am been taken away from here for the weekend (wifes idea) :-) | 09:08 |
| Burgwork | lucky man | 09:09 |
| ompaul | I concur | 09:10 |
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| mdke | ompaul, since the website is in moin, you can get the source for any page by attaching "?action=raw" to the url | 11:01 |
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| Burgwork | mdke, yes, but he also needs a way to write back | 11:02 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: I didn't know that, cool tip | 11:12 |
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| mdke | Burgwork, oh, i understood he just wanted to copy the source | 11:40 |
| Burgwork | mdke, he wants to edit it and push the edits back up. That is where I come in | 11:48 |
| mdke | i see that now, having read the scrollback | 11:49 |
| mdke | anyhow, it's a valid tip | 11:49 |
| Burgwork | yes, it is | 11:49 |
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| mdke | ah | 11:50 |
| mdke | sorry to hear that | 11:50 |
| Burgwork | hey, they happen | 11:51 |
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