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[04:14] jsgotangco: pong [04:14] jdub, yo! how are free are you in august? === jsgotangco looks at wiki [04:15] oh crap linuxworld [04:16] jsgotangco: dunno if i'll go to that though, long time between it and oscon [04:16] jsgotangco: what were you thinking? [04:16] we're doing an event over here in August, a community hackfest and RMS already confirmed [04:16] late august [04:18] was thinking of other people to invite and splurge [04:21] RMS? sorry, i'm washing my hair that night. ;-) [04:21] stallman [04:22] that was a joke. as in "stallman's coming? thanks but no thanks" [04:22] yeah [04:22] lol [04:22] i knew you wouldn't heh just taking a chance [04:22] dunno why the local folk are fascinated by it [04:23] ah well, one sniff and they'll get over it ;-) [04:23] sounds cool [04:24] ok i'll just think of another event much cooler [04:24] heh [04:25] no, no, dude, this sounds good [04:25] what date? [04:27] we don't have a specific date yet but its in August this year and we already have a campus known for its high-end labs sponsoring the event [04:27] the nice thing is that this school runs its own hotel as well [04:28] just across the campus [04:28] wow, handy ;) [04:28] *which is very nice* [04:29] http://www.dls-csb.edu.ph/ [04:30] argghh flash [04:30] http://www.asiatravel.com/philippines/intercenter/index.html [04:30] i'll send you an email about it === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:50] jsgotangco: I wanna see that!! [04:50] it must be paradise for geeks [04:51] you can play sports, use your box, see some girls, have some nice meetings, good internet..cool! [04:53] yeah [04:53] its a very expensive school though [04:53] but you get wifi all over the campus [04:53] and they got 2 labs of edubuntu [04:53] (not ltsp yet though) === mhz loves the idea os something like that in Chile [04:56] mhz, do you live in the capital? [04:56] well, if Tecnocimiento gets to do what we plan, then we'll start the ITLA (Institute of Free Technology for LatinAmerica) and will defintaly have those features [04:57] but at not expensive costs [04:57] jsgotangco: yup [04:57] wow cool === jsgotangco would like to go to south america sometime === mhz would happily have jsgotangco here [05:00] as long as you dont get wasted as ollie :D [05:00] wine, women and waltz as they say [05:00] www! [05:01] but you can get women with no wine === mhz actually got this wife playing poker :D [05:02] huh? you won her in a bet? [05:04] nope, man.. I let her win me :D [05:04] oopsss! puaj!! she won me sounds lot better than 'win+me' :D [05:05] jsgotangco: you need to come here and see how we treat women.. they are the bosses [05:05] we're servants [05:05] :D === jjesse [i=user@69-87-139-119.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:12] evening :) [05:16] hi [05:20] how are u? [05:21] just very tired [05:22] but I dont wanna go to bed because dapper devel status is in 3.5 hours [05:22] too bad for me the are always in the middle of my night [05:34] always? [05:35] i think they all have been at 0800 UTC correct? [05:40] hmmmm [05:40] nope [05:41] i dont think so, jjesse [05:41] but I have missed 99% of them :D [05:41] so i am not good reference === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === todd_ [n=todd@c-24-125-47-253.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-140-79.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Judax [n=troywill@adsl-209-30-131-249.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-157-175.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.178] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@59.92.54.208] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === todd_ is now known as lambert === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-148-52.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@karin309.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-154-46.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-144-188.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp228-224.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-129-190.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Nightlybuild [n=NIghtlyb@Mix-Rennes206-55.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:08] rob, so you're interested in getting back into some docs? [10:08] good news [10:08] :) [10:09] what were you thinking of working on? [10:09] I guess I'll get stuck into the desktop guide again [10:09] but I'm thinking I'll need my password reset as I *may* not still have my gpg keys [10:10] but hold out on that, I haven't tried to import them etc yet [10:10] argh [10:10] you might still have the svn password around somewhere I guess === rob broke his ubuntu over the christmas break [10:11] bah [10:15] rob, you can always send patches in the meantime, I'll apply em [10:15] yeah [10:17] can i send patches to you too? :) === mdke slaps jsgotangco [10:26] hmm I think I just rm -rf 'ed my wifes email [10:26] oops :( [10:28] ouch :/ [10:30] lucky its gmail [10:31] hmm [10:31] when was our last meeting? [10:31] two weeks ago [10:32] what happened there? [10:32] that was probably 5am on my side [10:33] dunno [10:33] oh you werent there [10:33] ? [10:34] no one attends meetings anyway when i arrange one :/ [10:34] i can't remember === jsgotangco sigh [10:37] the meeting agenda page should tell you [10:37] i only see 1 entry [10:38] eh [10:38] that's for the next meeting, you want the old meetings === jsgotangco thinks quality of -doc meetings degraded lately [10:49] we've had some good work though [10:51] currently no plans for improvement though [10:56] well I certainly plan to try and improve the documents [10:56] i think others do too [10:59] :/ === Kamping_Kaiser likes doing doco, just cant hand the complexity of doing svn+diffs+stuff [11:00] well the toolchain requires us so for now [11:00] or else we'll have pretty bad translation jobs [11:01] Kamping_Kaiser, it's pretty easy, we can help [11:01] svn diff > name.of.your.patch [11:02] does that diff everything in svn? or just the working dir? === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:07] Kamping_Kaiser, whereever you type the command [11:07] if you prefer you can do "svn diff filename.xml > name.of.patch [11:08] ok. *goes to have a play* [11:08] thanks :) [11:09] im going to re-ogranize this project :/ [11:10] huh? [11:10] we need people to write docs right now, not reorganise [11:10] no impact to current work, just some housekeeping :) [11:11] if its ok with you :/ [11:11] sure [11:12] but if you want to write more, you can, that's all I'm saying [11:12] huh? [11:12] i've been updating my docs [11:12] ! [11:13] yeah, i know [11:13] but you seem keen on doing more, so I was just encouraging you [11:13] i've been doing a lot of writing lately that's why [11:13] is the help written in docbook or xml proper? (i thought it was docbook, but this is an xml file) [11:14] its always in docbook [11:14] docbook is a declaration of xml [11:14] (with the exception of some yelp templates i believe) [11:15] so it says "xml version 1.0", and Doctype is docbook - that means that docbook is what we are working with? sorry, i havent used xml before [11:16] yes it is docbook xml [11:17] but you don't need to worry about what it is :) [11:17] just think of it as descriptive markup [11:17] for books [11:17] ok :)... so follow how other people did it and it should be ok? then i asume run the validate.sh to check.. [11:17] heh === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-129-190.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:19] that's right [11:25] mdke, can you modify the preview script when you have time to reflect edubuntu? [11:25] to publish as html [11:30] yes, which docs need doing? [11:31] About Edubuntu and Edubuntu Release Notes [11:33] ok [11:34] thanks :) === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico_ [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.60.139] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-129-190.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:50] jsgotangco: in our LoCo team smurf's server, we have ~/mailaddrs [02:50] ? [02:50] jsgotangco: i was told I can use that to provide email redirection @ubuntu-cl.org [02:50] i've heard [02:51] but we don't use smurf's server anymore [02:51] we share servers with the brazilian team on a dedicated server [02:51] i mean space [02:51] (we admin on our own now but the server is still sponsored) [02:53] mhz_food, yes you can, just add them to that file [02:54] mdke: hehehe, you always there! [02:54] :D [02:54] not always :) [02:54] we actually have so much space at the moment we can even run our own pop3/smtp [02:54] what do you want to know mhz_food ? [02:54] nice [02:54] the syntax, only [02:54] ok [02:54] assuming you want mhz@ubuntu-cl.org [02:55] for example [02:55] do: "mhz: your@email.address [02:55] duh!!! [02:55] without the ", sorry [02:55] that's only a text file? [02:55] yes [02:55] and the MTA's service will automatically refresh? [02:55] mhz_food, that's right yes [02:56] jsgotangco, do you know how to build a pdf? I've tried but failed to install apache fop properly [02:56] oh how neat [02:56] gee! I thought the syntax was that simple but two guys told me "each MTA's manages differently" [02:56] mine doesn't run either [02:56] Moin2PDF :D [02:56] stupid apache fop [02:57] I had to do it, sorry === jsgotangco kicks mhz_food === mdke kicks harder [02:57] lol [02:57] this isn't moin! [02:57] mdke: i know.. it's just that jsgotangco was here and I had to tease [02:57] your obsession with moin is unhealthy :) [02:57] apache fop is such a pain imo but jeffsch would disagree [02:57] mdke: thx for the help with mailaddrs [02:57] speaking of PDF [02:57] np [02:58] jsgotangco, i'll mail jeffsch and ask him how to do it :) [02:58] jsgotangco: just to show the good looking CSS.. http://212.21.77.50/coredump/RecentChanges === mdke debates mhz_food's definition of "good looking" [02:59] mark johnson of debian wants to work on an xml->pdf toolchain for ubuntu [02:59] but he said its going to be java for sure [02:59] oh well [02:59] jsgotangco, ok, sounds good [02:59] mdke: oh yeas, you are right, very subjective issue [02:59] at least not apache fop [03:00] i don't understand java at all [03:00] mhz_food, hmmm what i want to do sometime when i have time is to extend moin like what henrik has been doing [03:00] i have like 5 different packages installed, and I have no idea what they do [03:00] and nothing works [03:01] jsgotangco: well, I have sent a 10 paragraph email to henrik yesterday so we can start working on it.. obviously it will take at least a day to respond to all my points :D [03:01] what are you working on? [03:01] mdke: you need xml 2 pdf ? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:03] yes === mdke nudges mpt__ about AboutUbuntu === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bshumate [n=bshumate@ubuntu/member/bshumate] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-144-188.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:18] Interrogation? [05:18] lol [05:18] wiki? noooooo [05:19] ok not a native speaker i can understand that [05:19] bad choice of words though === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-129-190.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu-doc ["http://mpt.net.nz/"] [05:35] jdub, i've done some basic changes to yelp and sent them to the upstream mailing list to try and get their opinion. have a look: http://mdke.org/images/yelp [05:35] all I've changed is the colour of links and headers [05:35] so far... :) [05:36] color changes depending on theme used? [05:37] yes [05:40] cool we finally get a yelp hacker [05:40] :D === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-144-188.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:46] good night === bshumate [n=bshumate@ubuntu/member/bshumate] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Klaidas [n=klaidas@ctv-84-55-6-137.init.lt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:51] Burgwork, u about? [07:53] ompaul, sadly yes [07:53] ahh don't be like that :-) [07:54] what can I do you for? [07:54] are you in a position to copy thes source of the faq to something on the wiki so it keeps its formatting [07:54] give me the name and I'll give it an hour or so [07:55] I could then throw it back to you [07:55] the website faq? [07:55] aye, its not in wiki format [07:55] i.e. I can't edit it [07:55] its locked [07:56] it is in moin format and I do have access to an editable copy, but I don't have the password yet [07:56] okay [07:56] want to shove it onto wiki where it could be addressed and then I'll say it you can rip it and we can kill that page [07:57] let me contact hendrik [07:57] okay [07:57] night all [07:57] ohh this evening I found the boot options so that is getting its own page in the next 3 mins :) [07:58] night Kaiser_Sleeps [07:58] night === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-160-233.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul raises eyebrows at the disconnection === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:03] ompaul, ping [09:03] pong [09:04] ompaul, generally best to say "Burgwork pong" so that we get a hint [09:04] ompaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/FAQ [09:04] thanks [09:04] edit to your hearts content and then I will move it back [09:04] Burgwork, shall do what I can in the 3/4 of an hour [09:04] ompaul, whenever [09:05] Burgwork, okay, I will hand it back to you in 18 hours or less [09:05] ompaul, just ping this nick when it is done [09:06] remember that I am not at this computer on Sat and Sun (hopefully) [09:08] Burgwork, I am been taken away from here for the weekend (wifes idea) :-) [09:09] lucky man [09:10] I concur === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === manicka [n=manicka@ubuntu/member/manicka] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:01] ompaul, since the website is in moin, you can get the source for any page by attaching "?action=raw" to the url === mdke goes to bed [11:02] mdke, yes, but he also needs a way to write back === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:12] mdke: I didn't know that, cool tip === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:40] Burgwork, oh, i understood he just wanted to copy the source [11:48] mdke, he wants to edit it and push the edits back up. That is where I come in [11:49] i see that now, having read the scrollback [11:49] anyhow, it's a valid tip [11:49] yes, it is === Burgwork is having a really really bad day [11:50] ah [11:50] sorry to hear that [11:51] hey, they happen === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #ubuntu-doc