[03:40] <mhz> jdub: pin
[03:40] <mhz> +g
[03:41] <jdub> pong
[04:02] <jsgotangco> ta daaaa
[04:13] <jsgotangco> jdub, ping?
[04:14] <jdub> jsgotangco: pong
[04:14] <jsgotangco> jdub, yo! how are free are you in august?
[04:15] <jsgotangco> oh crap linuxworld
[04:16] <jdub> jsgotangco: dunno if i'll go to that though, long time between it and oscon
[04:16] <jdub> jsgotangco: what were you thinking?
[04:16] <jsgotangco> we're doing an event over here in August, a community hackfest and RMS already confirmed
[04:16] <jsgotangco> late august
[04:18] <jsgotangco> was thinking of other people to invite and splurge
[04:21] <jdub> RMS? sorry, i'm washing my hair that night. ;-)
[04:21] <jsgotangco> stallman
[04:22] <jdub> that was a joke. as in "stallman's coming? thanks but no thanks"
[04:22] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:22] <mhz> lol
[04:22] <jsgotangco> i knew you wouldn't heh just taking a chance
[04:22] <jsgotangco> dunno why the local folk are fascinated by it
[04:23] <jdub> ah well, one sniff and they'll get over it ;-)
[04:23] <jdub> sounds cool
[04:24] <jsgotangco> ok i'll just think of another event much cooler
[04:24] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:25] <jdub> no, no, dude, this sounds good
[04:25] <jdub> what date?
[04:27] <jsgotangco> we don't have a specific date yet but its in August this year and we already have a campus known for its high-end labs sponsoring the event
[04:27] <jsgotangco> the nice thing is that this school runs its own hotel as well
[04:28] <jsgotangco> just across the campus
[04:28] <jdub> wow, handy ;)
[04:28] <jsgotangco> *which is very nice*
[04:29] <jsgotangco> http://www.dls-csb.edu.ph/
[04:30] <jsgotangco> argghh flash
[04:30] <jsgotangco> http://www.asiatravel.com/philippines/intercenter/index.html
[04:30] <jsgotangco> i'll send you an email about it
[04:50] <mhz> jsgotangco: I wanna see that!!
[04:50] <mhz> it must be paradise for geeks
[04:51] <mhz> you can play sports, use your box, see some girls, have some nice meetings, good internet..cool!
[04:53] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:53] <jsgotangco> its a very expensive school though
[04:53] <jsgotangco> but you get wifi all over the campus
[04:53] <jsgotangco> and they got 2 labs of edubuntu
[04:53] <jsgotangco> (not ltsp yet though)
[04:56] <jsgotangco> mhz, do you live in the capital?
[04:56] <mhz> well, if Tecnocimiento gets to do what we plan, then we'll start the ITLA (Institute of Free Technology for LatinAmerica) and will defintaly have those features
[04:57] <mhz> but at not expensive costs
[04:57] <mhz> jsgotangco: yup
[04:57] <jsgotangco> wow cool
[05:00] <mhz> as long as you dont get wasted as ollie :D
[05:00] <jsgotangco> wine, women and waltz as they say 
[05:00] <mhz> www!
[05:01] <mhz> but you can get women with no wine
[05:02] <jsgotangco> huh? you won her in a bet?
[05:04] <mhz> nope, man.. I let her win me :D
[05:04] <mhz> oopsss! puaj!! she won me sounds lot better than 'win+me' :D
[05:05] <mhz> jsgotangco: you need to come here and see how we treat women.. they are the bosses
[05:05] <mhz> we're servants
[05:05] <mhz> :D
[05:12] <jjesse> evening :)
[05:16] <mhz> hi
[05:20] <jjesse> how are u?
[05:21] <mhz> just very tired
[05:22] <mhz> but I dont wanna go to bed because dapper devel status is in 3.5 hours
[05:22] <jjesse> too bad for me the are always in the middle of my night
[05:34] <mhz> always?
[05:35] <jjesse> i think they all have been at 0800 UTC correct?
[05:40] <mhz> hmmmm
[05:40] <mhz> nope
[05:41] <mhz> i dont think so, jjesse 
[05:41] <mhz> but I have missed 99% of them :D
[05:41] <mhz> so i am not good reference
[10:08] <mdke> rob, so you're interested in getting back into some docs?
[10:08] <mdke> good news
[10:08] <rob> :)
[10:09] <mdke> what were you thinking of working on?
[10:09] <rob> I guess I'll get stuck into the desktop guide again
[10:09] <rob> but I'm thinking I'll need my password reset as I *may* not still have my gpg keys
[10:10] <rob> but hold out on that, I haven't tried to import them etc yet
[10:10] <mdke> argh
[10:10] <mdke> you might still have the svn password around somewhere I guess
[10:11] <jsgotangco> bah
[10:15] <mdke> rob, you can always send patches in the meantime, I'll apply em
[10:15] <rob> yeah
[10:17] <jsgotangco> can i send patches to you too? :)
[10:26] <rob> hmm I think I just rm -rf 'ed  my wifes email
[10:26] <rob> oops :(
[10:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> ouch :/
[10:30] <rob> lucky its gmail
[10:31] <jsgotangco> hmm
[10:31] <jsgotangco> when was our last meeting?
[10:31] <mdke> two weeks ago
[10:32] <jsgotangco> what happened there?
[10:32] <jsgotangco> that was probably 5am on my side
[10:33] <mdke> dunno
[10:33] <jsgotangco> oh you werent there
[10:33] <jsgotangco> ?
[10:34] <jsgotangco> no one attends meetings anyway when i arrange one :/
[10:34] <mdke> i can't remember
[10:37] <mdke> the meeting agenda page should tell you
[10:37] <jsgotangco> i only see 1 entry
[10:38] <mdke> eh
[10:38] <mdke> that's for the next meeting, you want the old meetings
[10:49] <mdke> we've had some good work though
[10:51] <jsgotangco> currently no plans for improvement though
[10:56] <mdke> well I certainly plan to try and improve the documents
[10:56] <mdke> i think others do too
[10:59] <jsgotangco> :/
[11:00] <jsgotangco> well the toolchain requires us so for now
[11:00] <jsgotangco> or else we'll have pretty bad translation jobs
[11:01] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, it's pretty easy, we can help
[11:01] <mdke> svn diff > name.of.your.patch
[11:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> does that diff everything in svn? or just the working dir?
[11:07] <mdke> Kamping_Kaiser, whereever you type the command
[11:07] <mdke> if you prefer you can do "svn diff filename.xml > name.of.patch
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. *goes to have a play*
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks :)
[11:09] <jsgotangco> im going to re-ogranize this project :/
[11:10] <mdke> huh?
[11:10] <mdke> we need people to write docs right now, not reorganise
[11:10] <jsgotangco> no impact to current work, just some housekeeping :)
[11:11] <jsgotangco> if its ok with you :/
[11:11] <mdke> sure
[11:12] <mdke> but if you want to write more, you can, that's all I'm saying
[11:12] <jsgotangco> huh?
[11:12] <jsgotangco> i've been updating my docs
[11:12] <jsgotangco> !
[11:13] <mdke> yeah, i know
[11:13] <mdke> but you seem keen on doing more, so I was just encouraging you
[11:13] <jsgotangco> i've been doing a lot of writing lately that's why
[11:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> is the help written in docbook or xml proper? (i thought it was docbook, but this is an xml file)
[11:14] <jsgotangco> its always in docbook
[11:14] <mdke> docbook is a declaration of xml
[11:14] <jsgotangco> (with the exception of some yelp templates i believe)
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> so it says "xml version 1.0", and Doctype is docbook - that means that docbook is what we are working with? sorry, i havent used xml before
[11:16] <mdke> yes it is docbook xml
[11:17] <mdke> but you don't need to worry about what it is :)
[11:17] <jsgotangco> just think of it as descriptive markup
[11:17] <jsgotangco> for books
[11:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok :)... so follow how other people did it and it should be ok? then i asume run the validate.sh to check..
[11:17] <jsgotangco> heh
[11:19] <mdke> that's right
[11:25] <jsgotangco> mdke, can you modify the preview script when you have time to reflect edubuntu?
[11:25] <jsgotangco> to publish as html
[11:30] <mdke> yes, which docs need doing?
[11:31] <jsgotangco> About Edubuntu and Edubuntu Release Notes
[11:33] <mdke> ok
[11:34] <jsgotangco> thanks :)
[02:50] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: in our LoCo team smurf's server, we have ~/mailaddrs
[02:50] <jsgotangco> ?
[02:50] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: i was told I can use that to provide email redirection @ubuntu-cl.org
[02:50] <jsgotangco> i've heard
[02:51] <jsgotangco> but we don't use smurf's server anymore
[02:51] <jsgotangco> we share servers with the brazilian team on a dedicated server
[02:51] <jsgotangco> i mean space
[02:51] <jsgotangco> (we admin on our own now but the server is still sponsored)
[02:53] <mdke> mhz_food, yes you can, just add them to that file
[02:54] <mhz_food> mdke: hehehe, you always there!
[02:54] <mhz_food> :D
[02:54] <mdke> not always :)
[02:54] <jsgotangco> we actually have so much space at the moment we can even run our own pop3/smtp
[02:54] <mdke> what do you want to know mhz_food ?
[02:54] <mhz_food> nice
[02:54] <mhz_food> the syntax, only
[02:54] <mdke> ok
[02:54] <mdke> assuming you want mhz@ubuntu-cl.org
[02:55] <mhz_food> for example
[02:55] <mdke> do: "mhz:   your@email.address
[02:55] <mhz_food> duh!!!
[02:55] <mdke> without the ", sorry
[02:55] <jsgotangco> that's only a text file?
[02:55] <mdke> yes
[02:55] <mhz_food> and the MTA's service will automatically refresh?
[02:55] <mdke> mhz_food, that's right yes
[02:56] <mdke> jsgotangco, do you know how to build a pdf? I've tried but failed to install apache fop properly
[02:56] <jsgotangco> oh how neat
[02:56] <mhz_food> gee! I thought the syntax was that simple but two guys told me "each MTA's manages differently"
[02:56] <jsgotangco> mine doesn't run either
[02:56] <mhz_food> Moin2PDF :D
[02:56] <mdke> stupid apache fop
[02:57] <mhz_food> I had to do it, sorry
[02:57] <mhz_food> lol
[02:57] <mdke> this isn't moin!
[02:57] <mhz_food> mdke: i know.. it's just that jsgotangco was here and I had to tease 
[02:57] <mdke> your obsession with moin is unhealthy :)
[02:57] <jsgotangco> apache fop is such a pain imo but jeffsch would disagree
[02:57] <mhz_food> mdke: thx for the help with mailaddrs
[02:57] <jsgotangco> speaking of PDF
[02:57] <mdke> np
[02:58] <mdke> jsgotangco, i'll mail jeffsch and ask him how to do it :)
[02:58] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: just to show the good looking CSS.. http://212.21.77.50/coredump/RecentChanges
[02:59] <jsgotangco> mark johnson of debian wants to work on an xml->pdf toolchain for ubuntu
[02:59] <jsgotangco> but he said its going to be java for sure
[02:59] <jsgotangco> oh well
[02:59] <mdke> jsgotangco, ok, sounds good
[02:59] <mhz_food> mdke: oh yeas, you are right, very subjective issue
[02:59] <jsgotangco> at least not apache fop
[03:00] <mdke> i don't understand java at all
[03:00] <jsgotangco> mhz_food, hmmm what i want to do sometime when i have time is to extend moin like what henrik has been doing
[03:00] <mdke> i have like 5 different packages installed, and I have no idea what they do
[03:00] <mdke> and nothing works
[03:01] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: well, I have sent a 10 paragraph email to henrik yesterday so we can start working on it.. obviously it will take at least a day to respond to all my points :D
[03:01] <mdke> what are you working on?
[03:01] <mhz_food> mdke: you need xml 2 pdf ?
[03:03] <mdke> yes
[05:18] <jsgotangco> Interrogation?
[05:18] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:18] <jsgotangco> wiki? noooooo
[05:19] <jsgotangco> ok not a native speaker i can understand that
[05:19] <jsgotangco> bad choice of words though
[05:35] <mdke> jdub, i've done some basic changes to yelp and sent them to the upstream mailing list to try and get their opinion. have a look: http://mdke.org/images/yelp
[05:35] <mdke> all I've changed is the colour of links and headers
[05:35] <mdke> so far... :)
[05:36] <jsgotangco> color changes depending on theme used?
[05:37] <mdke> yes
[05:40] <jsgotangco> cool we finally get a yelp hacker
[05:40] <jsgotangco> :D
[05:46] <jsgotangco> good night
[07:51] <ompaul> Burgwork, u about?
[07:53] <Burgwork> ompaul, sadly yes
[07:53] <ompaul> ahh don't be like that :-)
[07:54] <Burgwork> what can I do you for?
[07:54] <ompaul> are you in a position to copy thes source of the  faq to something on the wiki so it keeps its formatting
[07:54] <ompaul> give me the name and I'll give it an hour or so
[07:55] <ompaul> I could then throw it back to you 
[07:55] <Burgwork> the website faq?
[07:55] <ompaul> aye, its not in wiki format
[07:55] <ompaul> i.e. I can't edit it
[07:55] <ompaul> its locked
[07:56] <Burgwork> it is in moin format and I do have access to an editable copy, but I don't have the password yet
[07:56] <ompaul> okay
[07:56] <ompaul> want to shove it onto wiki where it could be addressed and then I'll say it you can rip it and we can kill that page
[07:57] <Burgwork> let me contact hendrik
[07:57] <ompaul> okay
[07:57] <Kaiser_Sleeps> night all
[07:57] <ompaul> ohh this evening I found the boot options so that is getting its own page in the next 3 mins :)
[07:58] <ompaul> night Kaiser_Sleeps 
[07:58] <Kaiser_Sleeps> night
[09:03] <Burgwork> ompaul, ping
[09:03] <ompaul> pong
[09:04] <Burgwork> ompaul, generally best to say "Burgwork pong" so that we get a hint
[09:04] <Burgwork> ompaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/FAQ
[09:04] <ompaul> thanks
[09:04] <Burgwork> edit to your hearts content and then I will move it back
[09:04] <ompaul> Burgwork, shall do what I can in the 3/4 of an hour
[09:04] <Burgwork> ompaul, whenever
[09:05] <ompaul> Burgwork,  okay, I will hand it back to you in 18 hours or less
[09:05] <Burgwork> ompaul, just ping this nick when it is done
[09:06] <Burgwork> remember that I am not at this computer on Sat and Sun (hopefully)
[09:08] <ompaul> Burgwork, I am been taken away from here for the weekend (wifes idea) :-)
[09:09] <Burgwork> lucky man
[09:10] <ompaul> I concur 
[11:01] <mdke> ompaul, since the website is in moin, you can get the source for any page by attaching "?action=raw" to the url
[11:02] <Burgwork> mdke, yes, but he also needs a way to write back
[11:12] <LaserJock> mdke: I didn't know that, cool tip
[11:40] <mdke> Burgwork, oh, i understood he just wanted to copy the source
[11:48] <Burgwork> mdke, he wants to edit it and push the edits back up. That is where I come in
[11:49] <mdke> i see that now, having read the scrollback
[11:49] <mdke> anyhow, it's a valid tip
[11:49] <Burgwork> yes, it is
[11:50] <mdke> ah
[11:50] <mdke> sorry to hear that
[11:51] <Burgwork> hey, they happen