=== doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] phanatic: pong [12:21] raphink: i was also wondering if i should create a debian native from ubuntu-grub-splashimages... === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] phanatic: this is a debian native package, and that's fine [12:22] so no modification needed? [12:22] no as I said [12:22] you can ignore the Warning in the report [12:22] since it's normal that it's a debian native package [12:23] that's fine. but is it fine, that it has an -XubuntuX version? [12:23] nice sentence, shit :) [12:24] no, a native package shouldn't be versioned like that [12:24] ;) === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-78-38.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] shall i correct that and upload a new package? [12:30] sure phanatic [12:31] ok, i'll do that === womble [n=mpalmer@220-245-224-46.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-244-232.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TerminX [n=terminx@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-244-232.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-78-38.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^ [n=j@e178054231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-61-6.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@unaffiliated/firerabbit] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dzonni [n=dzonni@ordi.ee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tiCo89 [i=mario@server01.marioiseli.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vuntz__ [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont-work [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@static-147.29.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh_away [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [n=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === teprrr [n=tpr@kde/developer/rytilahti] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [n=sivang@ubuntu/member/sivang] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === torkel [i=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [n=nnnnnams@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-218-21.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moquist [n=moquist@pool-70-20-59-246.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] I have a question. I'm following some documentation about making packages. It says to change the debian/rules file in the commands to install into ./debian/pkgname, should I modify that from DESTDIR to whatever the Makefile expects (PREFIX in this case), or should I modify the Makefile to expect DESTDIR? [02:03] the latter === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] ok thank you azeem! the doc says the former, but I thought that was wrong [02:11] ah crap, there is no rule to install in the makefile, lol === frans-th [n=frans@202.73.108.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === frans-th [n=frans@202.73.108.150] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-142-254.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487FAD6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@200216028220.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] I want to take a piece of software that was debianized by someone and package it for Ubuntu. it is not in debian (and I don't see any ITP either), but the packager gave it a version of 1.0-2. so, because it is not actually in debian, would this become 1.0-0ubuntu1 or would it be 1.0-2ubuntu1? [04:15] the former [04:17] ok, cool. I am still working on getting the lintian output to stop complaining about things that he didn't check, but it's pretty close === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] man... this code is prety WTF'ed up === Kyral wonders how feasible it would be to use an Expert install to install Debian Sid === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Trashcan [n=matt@ip70-176-253-127.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@efreet.edu.ms] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] I have up-to-date dapper, and I have ubuntu-desktop and kde-core installed, no if I start gnome from GDM, I will have the KDE panel on my gnome desktop (in additional to my gnome panel), anybody heard of similar problem? === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] minghua, yeah KNOME heh [08:27] :-( === minghua can't find a bug about this [08:28] i just experienced it a few hours ago too [08:30] the forum people ahve talked about it already though [08:31] jsgotangco: at least nice to see it's not my own problem :-P [08:31] it as deemed "best bug ever" [08:31] s/as/was [08:32] lol [08:41] minghua: bug #30849 [08:41] malone bug 30849 in gnome-session "Kde desktop applications started by gnome-session" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30849 [08:42] ah, against gnome-session, I kept looking in bugs for kde :-) [08:42] torkel: thanks! [08:42] np === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] hi MOTUs === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] hello zakame [08:45] and hello ogra :-) [08:45] heya minghua :) === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A658D0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] good morning [08:49] good morning dholbach :) [08:49] hey zakame === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-244-232.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-144-188.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] hmm does dapper+1 have a name already? pusling in #d-mentors is asking me === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] Not yet. === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ibalon [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@173.Red-83-36-234.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-158-244.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-158-244.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === slomo [n=slomo@dslb-084-061-183-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.63.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] HOLY COW! apt-cache -i unmet | wc -l => 656 lines [09:57] Sounds like there's still something to do until release :) [09:59] time for me to get busy i think :) [10:00] dholbach: I started work on fixing this stuff, ~35 uploads so far [10:00] now that i can actually upload, woo :) [10:00] lfittl: Yeah - saw it :-) [10:00] Nice work. [10:00] and that took only 2 hours, these things are really easy to fix :) [10:01] Yeah, most of them should be easy and a good start for newcomers. [10:01] We should do a REVU day soon. [10:01] So we can get stuff in shape before Feature Freeze. [10:01] that would be really good, there is simply too much stuff on REVU [10:02] And we should have a No-New-Stuff-on-REVU Freeze too. [10:02] do you really think that would make a difference? [10:02] Maybe not. [10:03] we have only 2 weeks until feature freeze, introducing another freeze complicates the whole thing even more [10:04] you also planned a bug day, when exactly? === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] End of next week. Beginning of next week will be GNOME 2.13.91 [10:06] Where I'll be completely busy. [10:06] hello zakame [10:07] k, that means we could do the REVU day ~3 days before feature freeze [10:08] if an app I want to package has no man page, and no commandline arguments, do I have to make a man page for it? [10:09] dolson: if it has no commandline arguments that should be easy to do ;) [10:09] heya Gloubiboulga [10:09] lfittl: so yes, then? :) [10:09] make a little man page ;) [10:09] zakame, got a little question for you, about the FSF address :) [10:11] zakame, I don't know how to react when the old address in used in sources [10:19] Gloubiboulga: for your package or for packages which we have from Debian? [10:19] Gloubiboulga: sure, what's it about? :) [10:19] i'm on the phone, brb [10:19] lfittl: we could even do it on the weekend - whenever [10:19] lfittl: We just need to announce it. [10:20] And we still have not MOTU report yet. [10:20] Gloubiboulga: ??? annoyed? angry? happy? :P === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] dholbach: I will send a message to the motu mailinglist later today to discuss the REVU day date === dous [n=dous@efreet.edu.ms] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] Gloubiboulga: I believe its best to just tell upstream about it and let them update it by themselves, after all, they are the ones who are applying the GPL as a license, not us :) [10:22] lfittl: Thanks. [10:23] zakame, yeah, that's the point :) [10:23] dholbach, it's about http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1697 [10:23] bbl [10:24] Gloubiboulga: What about it? [10:24] old FSF address is used in sources, so I guess upstream should modify it [10:25] Yeah, tell them. [10:25] You don't need to patch it. [10:25] ok === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] yay, I wrote my first man page ever [10:57] congrats dolson [10:58] thanks :) I really want to take part in Ubuntu, so I'm trying to learn a bunch of new stuff, and that was one of them. pretty easy though, that was === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach high-fives dolson === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-010-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] :) you remember me? === iBalo [n=user@dslc-213-023-158-244.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] ok! lintian only reports 3 issues now. I am getting close here.. native-pkg-with-a-dash-ver, chlog-should-mention-nmu, and src-nmu-has-incorrect-ver-# === Casanova [n=prash@unaffiliated/casanova] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] hi i have uploaded 2 packages to revu yesterday -- python-ldtp and ltfx how can iget someone to review it? [11:36] hello anyone there? [11:37] Casanova, I can have a look at it, but only MOTUs can advocate [11:37] Gloubiboulga> thanx a lot [11:37] np [11:37] Gloubiboulga> i dont have to send a request or anything? they will view it? [11:37] Casanova, yes, if it's on REVU, that's because you want a review :) [11:38] hehe cool :) [11:38] Gloubiboulga> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1701 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1702 [11:38] I'm looking at ltfx [11:39] thats a very small package.. i packaged it basically bcos ldtp depended on ltfx and ltfx package was not available [11:40] Upstream copyright is not very clear === doko_ [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] Gloubiboulga> for ltfx? [11:43] Casanova, the COPYRIGHT file in sources is not enough [11:43] yes [11:43] each file should contain a header, describing the copyroght [11:43] *copyright [11:43] Gloubiboulga> what else should be added in the copyright file [11:43] oh [11:44] it's an upstream problem [11:44] you could ask the author to add these headers [11:44] Gloubiboulga> what does upstream problem mean? [11:44] Gloubiboulga> the author isnt responding to my emails :( === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-010-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [11:45] Gloubiboulga> by each file do you mean the source files? [11:45] Casanova, yes [11:45] see http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-howto.html [11:46] the COPYRIGHT file doesn't tell who is the copyright holder, and if the sources are under GPL v.2 or GPL v.2 or later [11:46] that's why the header is needed in the source files [11:47] Gloubiboulga> the homepage says GPL doesnt mention the version [11:47] Gloubiboulga> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltfx/ [11:48] Casanova, there's nothing on the hompage... [11:49] License : GNU General Public License (GPL) [11:49] that is all it says [11:50] but it's not in the source tarball :) [11:50] Gloubiboulga> its in the COPYING file isnt it? [11:51] yes, but it's not enough === spacey [n=herman@a82-93-13-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] Gloubiboulga> ok then i will add it manually into the source files [11:51] Casanova, you can't do that, the author has to [11:52] oh [11:52] I can't find the source tarball anyway [11:52] Gloubiboulga> what is the way out then? the project seem to be dead right now === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-12-47.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] Casanova, if it's dead I'm not sure that it's a good idea to package it, but ask MOTUs about that [11:54] ok let me try contacting him yet again [11:54] Gloubiboulga> is there any thing else that i should change? [11:54] Casanova, yes [11:54] if it's ok, I'll email you my comments [11:54] sure that would be great :) [11:54] ok :) [11:55] but we really need to have an available source tarball to accept the package [11:56] I have a question.. I still get two errors when I run lintian about nmu. num=new maintainer u_____? upload? I looked at the ardour control file and see robert from debian in there, so I left the guy who debianized this software previously in here.. but, I get the nmu messages, so am I really supposed to change it to my name? it feels like I would be stealing all of the credit or something [11:56] Gloubiboulga> it is available at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=123119 isnt it? [11:56] Gloubiboulga> are you referring to something else? [11:57] Casanova, there's nothing on the sourceforge page [11:57] Gloubiboulga> i downloaded the source form the sourceforge page [11:57] or I have a browser problem [11:57] Gloubiboulga> check http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ltfx/ltfx-0.1.6.tar.gz [11:58] thats the direct link [11:58] I guess I have a problem [11:58] ok, got the tarball :) [11:58] sorry [11:59] no probs at all :) [12:03] ok, no more lintian errors [12:08] Gloubiboulga> any other changes? [12:09] Casanova, I'll send you a mail in a few minutes :) [12:09] kewl [12:11] ok, I am done my packaging. so now I can upload it to revu. right? [12:14] Casanova, is it your first package ? [12:14] Gloubiboulga> yes :| [12:14] am i doing a very bad job? === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^ [n=j@e178054231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] Casanova, no, but my comments list is quite long :) [12:15] don't be afraid with it [12:15] ok :) [12:16] my first package was pretty ugly ;) [12:16] Gloubiboulga> i didnt get your mail yet [12:17] it's on its way [12:17] k [12:18] Casanova, did you run lintian on you package? [12:18] Gloubiboulga> yes [12:20] dholbach: hrm my apt-cache -i unmet -> 225 [12:20] dholbach: ah, you missed |grep Package [12:20] Casanova, on the .deb on on the .dsc? because lintian isn't very happy with the .deb ;) [12:21] Gloubiboulga> oO let me try again :( [12:21] ajmitch: have you got that bzr archive? [12:21] i am making the other changes you mentioned in the mail [12:21] Lathiat: 254 on amd64 then [12:21] Lathiat: :) [12:21] ajmitch: i need my pkgget.sh altho i probably needs updating for new launchpad buildlogs [12:21] i wonder if someone else has writtten anythign similar [12:22] Gloubiboulga> to get the version as "0.1.6-0ubuntu1" i have to do 'dch -v 0.1.6-0ubuntu1' ? [12:22] Casanova, you certainly missed a build-dep, because the package builds fine on my dapper box, but not with pbuilder [12:22] grabs the package, checks versions, grabs buildlogs [12:23] dholbach: thats actually quite good [12:23] dholbach: better than breezy [12:24] W: ctsim source: changelog-should-mention-nmu [12:24] W: ctsim source: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 4.4.2-1ubuntu2 [12:24] hrm [12:24] i never noticed that before [12:24] Casanova, I would just change it manually [12:24] Gloubiboulga> ok [12:24] Gloubiboulga> i havent used pbuilder... let me try installing it and then get back to you some time later? === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] Casanova, no problem [12:25] Lathiat: never mind that, lintian doesn't know that we don't have NMUs. [12:25] dholbach: yeh but did it atsome point? or is that new? [12:25] i never noticed it before [12:26] You maybe just uploaded YOUR packages. :-) [12:26] nah [12:26] maybe im just silly :) [12:26] and never noticed [12:26] Maybe. :-p === dholbach hugs Lathiat [12:27] or is that a new step in debuild -S to run lintian? [12:27] i cant wait till ig et my computer it'l be so much faster than this here laptop [12:27] esp with disk performance [12:27] same here. :-) [12:27] my x40's 4200 rpm disk is soooooooo slow [12:27] athlon x2 4200+, 2GB ram, 2x 36GB raptors (10,000RPM sata) [12:27] ouch [12:28] mines at least 5400 [12:29] and well, i hope my boss doesnt fire me in the next 6 weeks :) [12:29] :) [12:29] Who can think of stuff to add as "tasks" for the next Ubuntu Bug Day from the MOTU team? [12:29] "fix bugs" ;) [12:29] Please add something or nobody will help universe out. === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa212.14.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay [12:30] xlibmesa-gl stuff [12:30] .desktop files [12:30] I added something for the DektopTeam already. [12:30] Gloubiboulga> why does lintian say? E: ltfx_0.1.6-2_source.changes: md5sum-mismatch-in-changes-file ltfx_0.1.6-2.dsc [12:31] it did not come last time i ran lintian... though i made a few changes after that [12:32] don't really know, but maybe you've changed someting in the .dsc file [12:32] what do I use to log into REVU? unless I'm typing this wrong every time, it is not accepting my launchpad user/pass [12:33] Gloubiboulga> i havent touched the dsc file.. maybe i should package it again? [12:33] Casanova, just rebuild the source package [12:33] Gloubiboulga> also it says W: ltfx: manpage-section-mismatch usr/share/man/man1/digwin.1.gz:5 1 != SECTION [12:33] can i ignore this? [12:34] I don't think so ;) [12:34] why does it say that? [12:34] i men it should come in the 1st sectio right? [12:35] *mean [12:35] I'm not a man page specialist :p [12:35] :( [12:36] I'm checking manpages i've written === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] ok [12:36] hello === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] Casanova, `.TH LDTP SECTION "January 30, 2006"' LDTP -> ltfx, and SECTION -> 1 [12:38] I think that's the problem [12:38] Gloubiboulga: did you use docbook? [12:38] oops [12:39] raphink, yes, for the last package I've built [12:39] ok :) [12:39] good [12:39] hh [12:39] it's not very easy but it gives good results :) [12:40] raphink, yes, you're right [12:40] as always :p [12:40] oh it's the hug day! === raphink hugs Gloubiboulga === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] Gloubiboulga> lintian no longer gives any output :) [12:46] someone freakin hug me === Lathiat bugs dolson [12:47] don't touch me there [12:47] Casanova, good. It needs to build with pbuilder now [12:47] touch me *here* [12:47] Gloubiboulga> i will try and get back to you [12:47] my package builds with pbuilder, how do I log into REVU? [12:48] Casanova, ok. Don't forget that the license issue really needs to be solved [12:48] dolson, did you send your gpg key ? [12:48] yeah [12:48] Gloubiboulga> i your mail you said that i need to have a 'build-indep' rule in the rules file [12:48] Gloubiboulga> but i already have it dont i? [12:48] dolson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [12:48] then, just upload, you don't need to login [12:49] Gloubiboulga> build-indep: build-indep-stamp [12:49] build-indep-stamp: configure-stamp [12:49] Casanova, let me check again [12:49] ok [12:50] raphink: thanks... I think I read every page in the wiki, but this one. lol [12:50] Casanova, better ask a MOTU for this, I'm not totally sure [12:50] ok [12:51] dolson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing [12:52] dolson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU/REVU-Tools [12:52] so you can check your own package [01:00] thanks, I'm running that now [01:04] oh geez, it's 7am... time for some sleep [01:08] hehe [01:08] but this stuff is so interesting [01:08] I just don't want to sleep [01:12] dolzzzon: beware, addiction to packaging comes fast ;) === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.stb.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] raphink: very true :P === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c153160.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.60.139] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_Aw === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] evening MOTUs [02:14] hey zakame [02:14] hi Lathiat :) === TWD [n=chatzill@d83-177-218-54.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^ [n=j@e178054231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubi_Aw is now known as Gloubiboulga === j^_ [n=j@e178011066.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] wheres the policy on what needs UVF approval etc [02:40] ? === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] Lathiat, in the version number of your package ? [02:40] hmm good q I've been asking that to myself earlier this day :/ [02:40] ogra: like, is a new debian revision ok? [02:40] or does that need approval too? [02:41] 1.2.4-27 would need approval for 1.2.5-X [02:41] but not for 1.2.4-28 [02:41] ok, even if -28 adds a new feature? [02:41] even then ... [02:41] ok [02:41] cheers [02:42] -28 will need approval past 23rd of feb [02:42] ok [02:42] hm so I can still fix some motureviewers bugs which keep the same upstream version? [02:42] yup [02:42] yay \o/ [02:42] 1.2.4-27+really1.2.5evadinguvf [02:42] ;p === ogra hopes dholbach corrects him if he talks rubbish :) === Lathiat grins at ogra [02:43] Lathiat, yes, i did similar things in breezy :/ [02:43] made mdz very angry ... [02:43] I thought I'll be stuck doing just l10n after the merges ;P [02:43] and wont get approved this release ... no way for that === Lathiat laughs at ogra [02:44] dapper universe is looking a little more shapely than breezys at this point [02:44] or is it just me being dillusional? :) [02:44] nope, thats right ... [02:44] cool :) [02:44] ooh :( [02:44] would be bad if it werent the fact :) === phanatic [n=phanatic@195.56.142.153] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] indeed [02:45] hi people [02:45] breezy was really sucky ... [02:45] lol [02:45] would've been worse without the mammoth effort of some at the end [02:45] i think slomo slugged iirc === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] the problem with thsi point [02:45] is most of the unbuildable packages are weird applications [02:45] that no one uses or knows how to use [02:45] which makes testing the workability difficult ;p [02:46] raphink: ping [02:46] if they are really this weird and nobody complained yet, they might not be worth the effort [02:46] phanatic: pong [02:47] raphink: i uploaded ubuntu-grub-splashimages as a native package === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] phanatic: cool [02:47] raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1705 [02:47] phanatic: I'll have a look at it later if you dont mind phanatic [02:47] remind me when I'm less busy :) [02:47] or send me the link by email [02:47] raphink: okay :) [02:48] i'll do the latter [02:48] phanatic: it's hug day today, won't you join? [02:48] really? [02:48] heya phanatic [02:48] of course :) [02:48] hey zakame [02:48] #ubuntu-bugs, right? [02:49] i guess somethign that partially works is better than uninstallable [02:49] raphink: it is HUG day today?!? :D [02:49] guikachu seems to crash tryign to do anythign with a form altho other stuff works [02:49] zakame: :) [02:49] ooh === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:raphink] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Today is HugDay! Everybody is welcom to #ubuntu-bugs to help! === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:raphink] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Today is HugDay! Everybody is welcome to #ubuntu-bugs to help! [02:50] missed the e ;) [02:51] :) === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dslb-084-056-113-147.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^_ [n=j@e178024048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pluggie [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] ogra: hm? === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-86.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] SloMoSnail, I guess we could close bug 4165 [04:44] malone bug 4165 in dnspython "dnspython: merge new debian version" [Normal,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/4165 [04:45] damned [04:45] Morning MOTUish peoples [04:45] never ming, I've too much bugs today ;) [04:45] s/ming/mind [04:45] hi Kyral [04:46] hmm [04:46] To install Debian on my laptop [04:47] Should be fun :D [04:48] Poor laptop has been reformatted so many times in the past week as I have been playing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] Ironic that it started with Ubuntu and ending on Debian :P === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-144-188.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] siretart: revu-tools is NEW since yesterday. I don't know when it'll be in and it fixes a few things from version 0.3. Do you want to install the package already or wait for it to be in the repos? [05:18] \sh_away: wine is broken currently in dapper: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/30962 [05:18] malone bug 30962 in wine "Running wine applications instantly outputs "Killed." in the terminal" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [05:20] \sh_away: This is the same for 0.9.7 from winehq. But anyway, I want to suggest requesting a UpstreamVersionFreeze exception for it, because 0.9.7 fixes at least one annoying bug, where the icons in BeyondCompare do not show up. I could search for the upstream bugtracker entry, if needed. [05:26] raphink: could you write your mail to the list? [05:26] raphink: you just replied to me :) [05:26] oops sorry dholbach ;) [05:26] hehe [05:27] you don't like me writing to you dholbach ? 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[07:37] hi dholbach [07:38] dholbach: how much testing did you do on ekiga ? [07:38] I seem to have alsa/esd conflicts [07:41] wwaaaaah, this bl***dy gnome-power-manager!! grrrr [07:44] puh. vim saved a swapfile in my home.. uff [07:51] Is it even possible to use gpg to sign email through gmail? [07:52] if you use their POP3 interface, then you can. it's not possible via their web interface, though [07:52] bastards. [07:53] I'm going to email them a feature request [07:53] siretart, filed a bug for me ? [07:55] ogra: I'd like to do some more research about it first. and I'm too angry right now to file a bug [07:55] what happend ? [07:56] ogra: It just shut down my computer without even a slight warning or notice [07:56] ogra: I was writing a follow up in slrn/vim on \sh posting, and it just shut down. [07:56] did you run out of battery ? [07:57] ogra: shouldn't there be some kind of warning: "please save your work, you are low on power and the computer will shut down soon?" [07:57] ogra: hardly. I was at more than 50% battery [07:57] how are the adjustments in your power preferences ? [07:57] but I was not on ac, right [07:57] shutdown at critical, critical mark set to 3% [07:58] g-p-m is pretty dumb, it only does what you tell it, i suspect rather a hal bug that the values get reported wrong ... [07:59] ogra: what's this 'low battery' slider about? I don't see what action can be triggered when battery is low? [07:59] i agree that there should be a saver yourself command for open apps ... but thats a task gnome-session should do [07:59] look at the second tab [08:00] yu can select the action === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] ogra: I see only a slider for 'when battery is critical' not for 'when battery is low' [08:01]