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dcwckdsnake12:02
Snake__dcwckd: yess12:02
dcwckdwha tdo you use to play dvds12:02
Snake__I dont have a DVD player :)12:02
dcwckd:P12:03
dcwckdshould I try mplayer?12:03
Snake__mplayer is good12:03
closeasperilyeah12:03
closeasperilit shows the menues :)12:03
dcwckdapt-get install mplayer?12:04
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Snake__dcwckd: yep12:04
dcwckdPackage mplayer is a virtual package provided by:12:05
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dcwckdwtf12:05
dcwckdlol12:05
dcwckdmplayer-58612:06
dcwckdahh haa12:06
benkong2why won't my windows and fat32 drive show in konqueror? here is my fstab http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54750412:07
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closeasperilbenkong2:  bad karma for not saying hello ^^12:08
dcwckdcloseasperil: does mplayer have a  gui12:08
tsdgeosbenkong2: is it mounted?12:08
tsdgeosdcwckd: kmplayer gmplayer12:08
benkong2tsdgeos: yes but I wanted it to show in konqueror or on my desktop with an icon. Is that possible?12:09
dcwckdwhere do I get12:09
dcwckdkmplayer12:09
dcwckdits not in my apt sources12:10
closeasperilwhat is a gui anyway?12:10
dcwckdcomon12:10
tsdgeosbenkong2: just go to the mount point using konqueror?12:10
tsdgeoscloseasperil: gui -> Graphic User Interface12:10
closeasperiloh12:11
closeasperilif you installed the packeage mplayer-whatever you should have a gui12:11
closeasperili dint install any more packages and its therer ^^12:12
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dcwckdi installed mpalyer-58612:12
dcwckdno gui12:12
dcwckdwait12:13
dcwckdgmplayer seems to work12:14
arrinmurrdcwckd: mplayer is better without gui ;)12:14
dcwckdhow do I runa  dvd12:14
dcwckdwithout a gui12:14
closeasperilmplayer --help12:14
closeasperilypu can do that for any program ^^12:14
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dcwckdi know12:15
dcwckdmplayer dies right before the menu12:15
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dcwckdalsa-uninit: pcm closed12:16
closeasperilsounds good12:16
dcwckdthis is soo werid12:16
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dcwckdhow do you skip to another track, in mplayer?12:17
arrinmurrdcwckd: so you want to watch DVDs? try vlc12:17
dcwckdapt-get install kvlc?12:18
closeasperili had trouble with vlc and dvd all over the place12:19
closeasperilmplayer was plug and play to me12:19
closeasperilmaybe remover 586 and try with 38612:19
dcwckdhow di you launch vlc12:19
arrinmurrvlc works fine for me, as long as libdvdcss is installed and dma taken care of12:20
arrinmurrand mplayer doesn't support dvd menus, does it?12:20
closeasperilas far as i remember it does12:20
closeasperildont watch too many dvds12:20
arrinmurrdcwckd: type vlc ?12:21
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arrinmurrcloseasperil: so you can click the dvd menu options with mouse in mplayer?12:21
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dcwckd[00000264]  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'12:21
dcwckdmplayer reasdit fine12:21
dcwckdreads12:21
closeasperilarrinmurr: you know...as far as i remember12:21
closeasperilarrinmurr: id try but i have no dvd at hand12:22
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dcwckdmplayer loads my DVDs intro12:24
dcwckdthen dies at the menu12:24
dcwckdfuck12:26
arrinmurrdcwckd: what if you try dvd:///dev/dvd in vlc?12:26
dcwckdlol12:26
Snake|awayLanguage.12:26
dcwckdholy shit12:26
dcwckdvlc may be working12:27
Snake|awayLanguage.12:27
dcwckdok12:27
dcwckdvlc works12:27
dcwckdawesome12:27
dcwckdthanks12:27
bimberi!enter12:27
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:27
arrinmurrdcwckd: it should work with kaffeine too. works here anyway12:28
dcwckdaslong as it works12:29
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NRG88hi, what does this do?: net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_source_route=012:31
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cookieorclooks like it sets up an acceptance for somthign throught your ethernet port12:33
celeronhello guys, somebody know wheres can i find the package list of the kubuntu's cd installation?12:33
cookieorcyou try the menu.lst?12:33
closeasperilarrinmurr: you were right. it was like that mplayer wont support menus, the sound with kaffeine was a mess and vlc works good ^^12:34
NRG88cookieorc:12:35
arrinmurrcloseasperil: yeah. sound work fine for me in kaffeine though12:35
NRG88then i should not include this?12:35
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closeasperilarrinmurr: that somehow was a real mess here. anyway vlc plays nearly everything quite good and now i use mplayer for internet stuff only12:36
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NRG88anyone, should i include this in the sysctl.conf?12:40
NRG88net.ipv4.conf.eth0.accept_source_route=012:40
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ryanakcahmmmmm, anyone here know how to make wine act as Windows XP instead of Windows 98?12:45
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arrinmurrryanakca: through winecfg12:45
NRG88set it to win200012:45
NRG88(i think)12:46
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ryanakcaty12:46
ryanakcaI'm attempting to install Windows Live Messenger and it says it needs Windows XP to install....12:47
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arrinmurrryanakca: and you're ofcourse using the latest wine from winehq?12:48
ryanakcayesss....12:48
arrinmurrgood12:48
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ryanakcaI installed wine 0.9.7 through apt-get install wine12:51
arrinmurryeah12:51
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oelewapperkehow do you get mp3 encoding going in breezy ?12:55
sampanubotu tell oelewapperke about mp312:55
sampanoelewapperke  check your pm from ubotu :)12:55
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ryanakcammmm..... "Messenger Beta setup was not able to run due to a system error."12:55
ryanakcageee.... wonderfull :)12:56
oelewapperkesampan: I see12:56
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oelewapperkedoesn't work for kde it seems12:56
oelewapperkeah that's only for playback12:57
sampanfor encoding, try installing lame12:57
oelewapperkewhere do I find a package for that ?12:57
sampanapt12:57
sampanadept/synaptic/aptitude12:57
arrinmurrryanakca: do you need it for something kopete/gaim/amsn etc. can't do?12:58
oelewapperkeno liblame or lame in there12:59
arrinmurr!info lame12:59
ubotulame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB12:59
arrinmurroelewapperke: you need multiverse enabled01:00
sampanoelewapperke  you probably need to add repos to your /etc/apt/sources.list then (you can do that in adept, or by using the text editor of your choice, with root privs, on /etc/apt/sources.list)01:00
oelewapperkeurl for multiverse ?01:00
arrinmurr!repos01:00
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:00
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oelewapperkeah okay01:03
oelewapperkewhat is multiverse ?01:03
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sampanoelewapperke  it's a repository of packages.  ubuntu divides packages into several different categories01:03
sampan!components01:03
ubotuThe rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components01:03
sampanthat link explains the reasoning if you're interested in the 'whys' of it all :)01:04
ryanakcaarrinmurr: Kopete/Gaim/aMSN/etc don't cut it media wise as in sound conversations, etc01:11
ryanakcaALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory01:11
ryanakcathats what I get when I run "winecfg"......... any ideas on the problem?01:12
arrinmurrryanakca: i get the same error message. sound works fine anyway01:12
ryanakcakk, thanks01:12
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slow-motionn801:14
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dcwckdsnake01:15
dcwckdwill you  tell me about mp3s again01:15
dcwckdlol01:15
Snake__!mp301:15
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:15
Snake__:P01:15
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dcwckd!iheartsnake01:17
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dcwckd01:17
Snake__lol01:17
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Nikelondeonhello!01:23
Nikelondeonsome help please?01:24
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Hobbsee!ask01:27
Hobbsee!+ask01:27
ubotuit has been said that ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html01:27
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Nikelondeonsorry01:27
Nikelondeonjust install kubuntu, and looking on SYSTEM SETTINGS my Wireless card and wired ethernet seems installed01:28
Nikelondeonbut always are unavailable01:28
Nikelondeoni've log in as ROOT and try to change the status (for AVAILABLE of course)01:29
Nikelondeonbut for only 1 sec, then it turns unavailable it self01:29
Hobbseeyes, use the administrator box at the bottom to get sudo access to it01:29
Nikelondeoni simple log in as root01:30
Nikelondeonworks that way?01:30
ryanakcahmmmm Anyone else here been having trouble installing IE6SP1 in WINE01:30
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Snake__ryanakca: why would you want IE.01:31
dark_suiccrossover would be better for that, ryanakca01:31
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ryanakcaI dont want IE... its just that certain Windows programs that I'm trying to install on WINE depend on it :-/01:32
Snake__oo01:32
Hobbseeah, that bug again?01:32
Hobbseehehe @ Snake__01:32
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ryanakcacrossover.... beyond my budget01:33
ryanakcaSnake__: LOL01:33
Snake__:D01:34
ryanakcaseee.... if I had a windows XP cd, I'd ditch wine and follow this HOWTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3951301:35
bimberiryanakca: The sidenet utility ( http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html ) worked well for me.01:36
NikelondeonHobbsee01:37
Nikelondeonso it's a bug my network problems?01:37
Nikelondeonwhat i have to do?01:37
Hobbseeuse kdesu kcontrol instead01:38
Nikelondeonsame thing01:39
Nikelondeoni put it enabled01:40
Nikelondeonturns it self disabled01:40
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Hobbseehmmm01:41
Hobbseeoh, that...01:41
Hobbseei dont know why that happens - seems that you have to do it via CLI when that happens01:41
Nikelondeonplease explain me01:41
Nikelondeonwhat is CLI?01:42
SmeggyIs there a reason why Adept crashes every time I try and fetch updates?01:42
Snake__Nikelondeon: CLI = Command Line Input01:42
Snake__Nikelondeon: think terminal/console/konsole (all the same01:42
Nikelondeonok01:43
Nikelondeoni tryed that.. but don't know what to do01:43
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_patwhere is the master.passwd file in kubuntu?01:43
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ryanakcabimberi: Thanks... it seems to be working :)01:48
bimberiryanakca: great! :)01:48
bimberiubotu tell _pat about root01:48
ryanakca_pat: /etc/passwd   methinks01:48
Snake__ubotu: tell snake__ about root01:49
Nikelondeonanyone knows were to find info about NETWORK DISABLED Bug?01:49
Snake__Nikelondeon: look around bugzilla01:50
Snake__one moment ill link u01:50
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Snake__Nikelondeon: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo01:51
Snake__oops01:51
Snake__crap01:51
Snake__not that01:51
Snake__http://bugs.kde.org/http://bugs.kde.org/01:51
Snake__GRRRRRRRRRRRR http://bugs.kde.org/01:51
Snake__That01:51
Nikelondeonthanks!01:52
Snake__Yep01:53
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Nikelondeonit seems to be easy to fix by konsole01:54
Snake__Smeggy: where did you get that??01:54
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SmeggyGet what Snake__?01:54
Snake__Smeggy: 300mbs worth of pacakges..01:55
SmeggyFrom the kubuntu repos? :P01:55
Snake__Smeggy: thats a lot of programs in linux land ><01:55
Smeggyindeed01:56
ryanakcammmm.... wine applications sure seem to be.... buggy :/01:56
ryanakcain other words... slower than molasses in march01:56
Smeggymolasses in march is pretty slow01:56
Snake__ryanakca: yessir01:56
ryanakcatext overlaps....01:56
ryanakcajust the background in MSNM7 is choppy like a checker board... better than nothing though :)01:57
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ryanakcahmmm... you know what... MSNM7 in wine sucks... but hey... what do you expect... anybody know of a MSN client that has audio conversation support?02:00
Snake__ryanakca: did you try amsn?02:08
Nikelondeoni giveup02:09
Nikelondeoncan't find this bug02:09
Snake__Nikelondeon: then file it02:09
Nikelondeonbut everybody tells me that it's a knowign bug02:10
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Snake__Nikelondeon: Then your not looking hard enough ;)02:10
Nikelondeonyou bet02:11
Nikelondeonit's late02:11
Nikelondeonthat's why02:11
Snake__lol02:11
Nikelondeonand 'cause i'm latinamerican02:11
Nikelondeonand all is on english02:11
Nikelondeonthe spanish kubuntu forum have nothing02:12
Nikelondeonvery new02:12
Snake__ah02:13
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jeroenvrpquestion (using dapper): how can I see how many times adept-notifier checks for new packages? allthough if adept-notifier checks it andif not, how to check it?02:23
jeroenvrphow many times = how hoften02:24
jeroenvrphow often02:24
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rich0rd:) gcc-3.3 found my two destructors and complained, gcc-4.01 did not - is it allowed to impement a function twice?02:32
rich0rdand by impement i ment implement02:32
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_slashhi guys02:38
_slashI have a question02:38
_slashhow do I check all the pakcage has been install on my kubuntu?02:39
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Snake___slash: open adept, uncheck all except for "installed"02:42
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_slashic.. thank you :)02:44
Snake___slash: yep02:44
Snake___slash: make sure you have all the actions checked, or it wont show anything :)02:46
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supernixwhat is the key sequence to kill a frozen app02:49
beefsprocketctl+alt+esc I think02:51
beefsprocketand esc to cancel02:51
Hobbseeor alt+f2, type xkill, enter02:53
supernixdang I tried zapping the frozen program now that bar at the bottom is gone02:55
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supernixThanks for the help though it did work finally02:56
supernixI messed up should have switched to the program then hit it02:56
Hobbseealt+f2, kicker, enter02:57
supernixalright that is kewl thanks02:57
supernixOk I now have the ISO for breezy so what is the best way to upgrade from hoary ?02:58
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dcwckdsnakey02:59
dcwckdstill there?02:59
Snake__dcwckd: yo02:59
Snake__lol03:00
dcwckdlol03:00
dcwckdtell me about mp3s, j/k03:00
dcwckdlol03:00
Snake__!lart dcwckd03:00
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dcwckddo you know why my HDs arent showing up in media:/03:00
dcwckdjsut removables03:00
Hobbseesupernix: sudo apt-cdrom add with the cd rom in the drive03:00
dcwckd?03:00
Snake__dcwckd: because thats how it was made (I think its a glitch)03:01
Hobbseeand change everything in /etc/apt/sources.list from hoary to breezy, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:01
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dcwckdcan it be fixed?03:01
dcwckdor has anyone done it03:01
Snake__dcwckd: no fix as I kno03:02
dcwckd!thanks03:03
ubotudcwckd: graag gedaan03:03
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Hobbseedcwckd: use /media/ instead as a workaround03:03
dcwckdI am03:03
dcwckdI jsut wanted to know03:03
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ryanakcaG'night all!03:05
dcwckd!night03:05
ubotudcwckd: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:05
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beefsprocket!kdevelop03:07
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, beefsprocket03:07
supernixok seems I messed up03:08
supernixI was getting errors earlier so I removed everything from my source.list03:08
supernixI just did the apt-cdrom add like you mentioned though just now03:09
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moshahey hows it going everyone03:11
supernixI just tried to refresh my packages with this url http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-lastest and it gave me a error03:11
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beefsprockethow do I get kdevelop to work on breezy 64, kde 3.50? apt-get says kdesdk-scripts replace it but...03:13
beefsprocketwhat does that script(s) do and where do I look?03:14
NRG88hi, i have fixed the keyboard layout problem03:14
NRG88how can i switch?03:14
NRG88a little err icon appears at the tray03:15
NRG88i added hungarian layout to03:15
NRG88on rightclick a menu pops up03:16
NRG88and when i try to select hungarian, nothing happens03:16
NRG88the icon remains err03:17
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NRG88it started to work... :)03:23
moshacan someone help me out with a configure issue im having?03:26
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Hobbseemosha: more detail?03:34
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moshaHobbsee: Thanks.  Im sorta new to linux but i've never seen this before!.. im trying to configure a program.. and type ./configure.. it comes back saying configure error: cannot find install -sh03:37
moshaor install.sh03:37
moshabut, i can see the install -sh in the directory im in03:37
moshaany ideas???03:37
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Hobbseeyou're running ./configure from the right directory, i take it?03:38
moshayes03:38
Hobbseewhat's up Smeggy?03:38
moshai can see the configure file and install -sh file03:38
Hobbseethat's weird03:38
SmeggyMy update worked and I'm happy :D03:38
HobbseeSmeggy: yay!03:38
Hobbseemosha: you'd have build-essential, i take it?03:38
Smeggyahh, its good to be back in linuxland03:38
Hobbseehehe03:38
Hobbseeonly thing apart from that that i can think of is that install.sh is spelt differently in the configure file to the way it is in the folder03:39
supernixHelp my upgrade was going so well then poof got an error about a file trying to be overwritten from my cd to the hd03:39
moshai have gcc install,, is that what you mean?03:39
Hobbsee!+info build-essential03:39
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB03:39
Hobbseemosha: different thing ^03:39
supernixErrors were encountered while processing:03:40
supernix /cdrom//pool/main/o/openoffice.org2-helpcontent/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb03:40
supernixsee03:40
Hobbseesupernix: can you paste more of the error, as much as you can of it, to !pastebin?03:40
supernixsorry that is all it gave me03:40
Hobbseehmmm03:40
moshaok let me look, i just found a ubunut starter guide..03:40
Hobbsee!ubuntuguide03:40
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead03:41
moshaah ok03:41
moshathanks03:41
Hobbseeno problems03:41
Hobbseebut try sudo apt-get install build-essential then try agian03:41
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supernixCouldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde-lastest_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:43
moshai just did an apt-get update.. it says i should run this to correct some problems it had with the build-essential03:43
supernixthat is an error I have gotten several times already03:43
supernixwell something similar that is03:44
moshasupernix: i just received an error similiar to that and it told me to run updates... maybe you should try sudo apt-get update03:44
Hobbseemosha: paste the entire error to pastebin?03:45
supernixFailed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-lastest/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found03:45
supernixReading package lists... Done03:45
supernixyeah that is the error I keep getting03:45
moshai just ran the updates and this is what i got..  W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508803:46
moshaabout 5 of those messages03:46
Hobbseeyou can ignore that03:46
moshaah ok03:46
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supernixany idea how to correct that 40403:51
moshaHobbsee: i installed the build essential , and redid the ./configure but same thing...03:52
moshaconfigure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..03:52
beefsprocketmosha: what are you trying to build anyways?03:53
moshaquick synergy....03:53
moshaits a program to use 1 keyboard /mouse without a kvm switch03:54
Hobbseemosha: do you have a link to it, and i'll see if it configures on my sysetm?03:54
moshasure03:54
beefsprocketah03:54
moshahttp://quicksynergy.sourceforge.net03:54
moshathis is a gui for easy setup... there is the program regular synergy that i would need to install by command line03:56
mosha but i figured this wuld be easier..  guess not :P03:56
beefsprocketdo you have automake installed?03:56
moshaim not sure03:57
beefsprocketwait, that comes with build-essential I think03:57
supernixI was just trying to upgrade to breezy03:57
beefsprocketsupernix: can't you change kde-latest to 351?03:59
supernixI could03:59
beefsprocketthat would work at least03:59
supernixwhat should I do just replace the kde-latest to 351 ?03:59
beefsprocketin your sources.list04:00
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beefsprocketfind the line with latest: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main04:00
beefsprocketreplace it with that04:00
beefsprocketmosha, Hobbsee: how are we doing?04:01
beefsprocketmine configures no problem...04:01
moshadamn04:01
moshai must be missing something .04:02
beefsprocketwhat was the output of ./configure for you? was there a pastebin link?04:02
moshai just insatlled a fresh copy of kubuntu breezy yesterday.. so i might not have everyting04:02
beefsprocketmosha: that would likely be it04:03
moshabut i did make sure that i insalled gtk2.0 and libglide dev libraries04:03
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Hobbseebeefsprocket: mosha it's workign here04:03
moshawhat do you guys think im missing?04:03
beefsprocketpost the output of ./configure if it has more than a few lines to pastebin and we'll find out soon enough?04:04
moshaconfigure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..04:05
moshathats all it gives me04:05
beefsprocketah04:05
moshai dont need to be root when i do that?04:05
beefsprocketnope04:05
moshadidnt think so04:05
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isodudegahrrr04:05
isodude<3 kate04:05
beefsprocketisodude:  indeed ?04:05
isodudehave been debugging a app about 4h04:06
KnowerrorsHey all, Im building a custom kernel in ubuntu, and looking at one of the howtos it mentions using "-initrd", is this needed, and why?04:06
beefsprocketouch04:06
isodudenaw, not that much but, still.04:06
beefsprocketKnowerrors: unless your filesystem modules are compiled into the kernel, you won't be able to access your filesystem04:06
beefsprocketinitrd makes a ramdisk allowing your kernel to start loading stuff04:07
beefsprocketso it is almost always recommended that you make one04:07
beefsprockettakes 2 seconds04:07
Knowerrorsbeefsprocket: I have reiser, my root fs, built as * in my config... is there any other reason to use initrd? Like faster boot or something?04:08
beefsprocketumm, just make sure all your fs modules aren't modules and you should be fine, but I don't think it makes enough of a difference either way04:09
beefsprocketI could be wrong though04:09
Knowerrorscool, I will skip it then04:09
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beefsprocketKnowerrors: if you can't boot, you know where to look ;)04:10
Knowerrorshehe, yup :) , I made the mistake last time I compiled of no initrd, and reiser as (m)04:11
beefsprocketah04:11
beefsprocketwell there you go -- learn by doing04:11
KnowerrorsI had forgotten about initrd, repressing painful memories04:12
supernixI tried replacing the kde-latest with 351 and still no such luck I get 404 anyway04:13
beefsprocketi got used to not having it on gentoo for a while04:13
beefsprocketsupernix: can you browse the repository in a web browser?04:15
beefsprocketlike http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351?04:15
beefsprocketah http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde3504:15
supernixdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/ breezy main04:16
supernixthat is what I have so far it was deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main04:16
beefsprockettry opening the http link in a browser04:16
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beefsprocketmosha: any luck?04:17
moshanah, i've been checking on wiki.ubuntulinux.org and i checked google for the error, but cantfind a fix04:18
beefsprockethow about trying: whereis gcc04:18
moshatried it and got a few directories..04:18
moshalet me do it again04:18
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beefsprocketnah, that's good enough -- just to have gotten something means its there04:19
moshagcc: /usr/bin/gcc /usr/lib/gcc /usr/bin/X11/gcc /usr/share/man/man1/gcc.1.gz04:19
moshaok04:19
beefsprocketdo you have libstdc++6? not sure if it is a dep, but it comes up lots for other stuff04:19
moshahm not sure,04:19
beefsprockettry apt-getting then04:19
moshaok04:20
moshalibstdc++6 is installed04:20
moshabut not the -dev04:20
beefsprockethow about g++?04:20
beefsprocketah, well you'll want to dev anyways04:20
beefsprockettry and see (though I don't think that will fix it, libstdc++ that is)04:21
Snake__Hey, any linux gamers in here??04:21
supernixok I got a big amount of text errors to paste who wants to help me sort it out ?04:22
beefsprocketsupernix: use pastebin04:22
moshaafter i install updates, do i need to reboot or anything? or should it auto recognize i just installed updates04:23
beefsprocketunless it's the kernel, you should be fine04:23
moshaok04:24
moshajust installed some different version of libstdc andg++ still no go04:24
beefsprocketsame error?04:24
moshayes04:24
beefsprocketget automake and autoconf too (if they aren't already installed004:25
moshahow can i check if it is already installed by the command line?04:25
beefsprockettype automake04:25
beefsprocketthey autoconf04:25
beefsprocket;)04:25
moshaheh04:25
moshaneither commands are found04:26
moshaguess that answers my ? :P04:26
beefsprocketright: start there apt-get install automake autoconf04:26
beefsprocketyou can do both at once04:26
supernixok here is the error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54779404:26
moshaok cool04:26
beefsprocketsupernix: ok, dpkg -i --force-all /cdrom//pool/main/o/openoffice.org2-helpcontent/openoffice.org2-help-en-us_1.9.129-0.1ubuntu5_all.deb04:27
beefsprocketthat should force the package to install04:27
beefsprocketthen you can resume04:27
moshaok both r installed04:27
beefsprocketand ./configure says what?04:28
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moshaand ./configure is running sweet!04:28
mosha:P04:28
beefsprocketthere you go04:28
moshathanks alot04:28
beefsprocketautomagic04:28
beefsprocketnp04:28
beefsprocketsomething that you install once and forget until you upgrade 6 months later04:29
Smeggyhow do i upgrade to kde 3.5.1 in breezy?04:29
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beefsprocketSmeggy: you might like 3.5.0 a little better -- its a little less quirky04:29
beefsprocketIMO that is04:29
Smeggybeefsprocket, either is good, I'm just wondering how?04:30
beefsprocketah, well you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list04:30
beefsprocketwhat time did you join the channel?04:30
Smeggya while back04:30
supernixI just got an error about no such file or directory04:30
beefsprocketI posted the steps a while back at around 10:1004:30
SmeggyI've done that, and added one of the sources listed on the site04:31
SmeggyBut when I do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't update kde04:31
SmeggyWhen I do dist-upgrade, it lists what appear to be all the KDE packages (akregator, artk.. etc.) but it says "the following packages have been kept back"04:31
SmeggyAnd it doesn't want to get them.04:31
beefsprocketSmeggy: but it has already got the rest I take it?04:32
Smeggybeefsprocket, What do you mean by the rest?04:32
beefsprocketwell, what about apt-get install akregator?04:32
Smeggybeefsprocket, ill try, one sec.04:32
beefsprocketkk04:32
beefsprocketsupernix: is the cd mounted?04:32
SmeggyIt's broken.04:33
beefsprocketah that might be why it gets held back04:33
SmeggyCan't be installed because kdelibs4c2 (>=4:3.4.3-1 but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed04:33
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Tallia1Kubuntuoh my god i just hear  a person in an electroacoustic music class that doesn't know what is a text file..04:34
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Tallia1Kubuntuand my professor of that class.... called windows PCs "the dask side" :)04:35
Red_Herringhow do i close other chats in irssi04:35
Tallia1KubuntuCapoEira time!!04:35
Red_Herringso far i have 10 up04:35
beefsprocketSmeggy: can you pastebin your sources.list?04:35
Smeggybeefsprocket, ok04:35
Smeggybeefsprocket, one sec... thanks for your time :)04:35
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beefsprocketnp04:35
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moshabeefsprocket: got it up and running.. thanks again man :P04:37
beefsprocketcool04:37
beefsprocketgood to hear04:37
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beefsprocketsmeggy I see it04:38
beefsprocketchecking now04:38
Smeggyok04:38
beefsprocketwell, you can start with just trying to get kdelibs4c2 and see what it says04:39
Smeggyok04:39
beefsprocketor you can try just kde35 first and see if it updates04:40
Smeggybeefsprocket, trying just kdelibs4c2 gets unmet dependency error for libavahi-client, libavahi-common0 and libavahi-qt3-004:41
beefsprocketumm, well you can try those packages in order too then? I'm not sure how else you could check to see where the problem starts...04:42
beefsprocketjust work backwards until somehting either installs or gives you a package that you've already seen04:42
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SmeggyIt seems to have unmet dependcies for most of the packages listed04:42
beefsprockethave you tried apt-get -f install?04:42
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Smeggyyeah04:43
beefsprocketyou could also comment out all the repositories except the kde35104:43
beefsprocketthen apt-get update04:43
Smeggyhmm, that's an idea04:43
beefsprocketand then upgrade04:43
_jasonhello, I am a gnome user, but I wrote a guide on the wiki and am not sure about something in kde.  Where would a user add startup programs?  (equivalent to system > prefs > sessions > startup in gnome)04:43
SmeggyDamn, same thing with the list and saying they've all been kept back.04:44
beefsprockettry just kde35 then04:44
SmeggyYeah04:44
beefsprocketmaybe the ppc repository isn't quite ready yet?04:44
SmeggyPossibly, but the packages all seem to be there... *shrugs*04:45
beefsprockethmm, good call04:45
Smeggythanks for you time :) imma keep tinkering04:45
beefsprocketok04:45
Hobbsee_jason: a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart04:45
_jasonHobbsee: hrmm no nice gui way for new users?04:45
Hobbseenot that i know of...04:46
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_jasonHobbsee: okay, I'll add that in that way, thanks04:47
avatarmanhello all  ~  does anybody know why when I choose certain packages I get a message that it will BREAK my install?  What is the cause of this?04:47
_jasonavatarman: what packages and where are you choosing them?04:48
avatarmanI have the repositories that came with the OS.  I enabled the ones that were greyed out...that's it.  I was trying to install an Open GL war game banos or some such name.04:48
lesAnyone else getting an error on apt-get update? http://kubuntu.org breezy No public key04:49
avatarmanI just want to understand the concept behind it.  Is it my hardware or something that it doesn't like?04:49
Hobbseeavatarman: means that adding some packages will remove others at times, which could break your system04:50
avatarmanwell,  it won't even let me try it04:50
avatarmanIf I try to proceed it tells me it can't do it.04:50
avatarmanDid I install something conflicting then?04:51
Hobbseetry installing those packages thru apt-get in the console, and pastebin the entire error you get04:51
avatarmanI haven't really added all that much.04:51
avatarmank04:51
Hobbseethat'll tell us what you're trying to get rid of by accident04:51
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avatarmanthanks04:51
avatarmanit was boson and I'm not sure how to apt get it from the konsole.   I tried sudo apt-get boson and it tells me invalid operation04:54
crimsunyou missed the 'install' part04:54
avatarmaninstall goes before  boson then?04:54
crimsunyes04:55
avatarman=)  okey doke04:55
avatarmanhere it is >>>   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8412   <<<04:58
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moshahey ... how do i uninstall a program?04:59
Hobbseemosha: sudo aptitude remove programname05:00
beefsprocketmosha: apt-get remove program05:00
beefsprocketor aptitude05:00
moshathanks05:00
isodudeuse adept? =)05:00
Hobbseeavatarman: sudo apt-get install boson boson-base boson-data boson-music05:00
Hobbseepft, adept takes too long to load05:00
isodudejust a sec here05:00
Hobbseewell, by the time you put in the root password, then it refreshes the list, etc05:01
isodudewell it's much easier than aptitude =)05:01
isodudeif you want to use gui.05:02
Hobbseetrue05:02
beefsprocketbut doesn't aptitude mark packages by date installed so you can remove dependiencies if you ever want to remove a package?05:03
Hobbseebut for stuff like updating and upgrading system, ./up<tab>, enter, password works quite well, and very quickly05:03
avatarmanhmmm  -  that gave a bit more information  >>>   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8413   <<<05:03
avatarmanI see that it lists dependencies which are "not installable"  but why are they not installable?  Is it something I did wrong?05:05
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isodudeHavn't used aptitude that much =)05:06
HymnToLifeavatarman > certainly you didn't enable the correct repos05:06
HymnToLifeso apt can't find the package to solve the dep05:06
avatarmanI enabled all the ones that came with the installation of 5.10....05:08
owner!easysource05:08
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:08
ownerthat is really good05:08
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avatarmanso,  the repositories that were installed by default and the greyed out ones which I enabled won't do it?05:09
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avatarmanI'm just trying to understand the whole concept...I thought I could install anything that was listed in the package manger gui05:11
avatarmanand all those packages,  base, music....are listed05:11
HymnToLifewhat are you trying to install ?05:12
avatarmanthis boson war game05:12
HymnToLifehmm05:12
HymnToLifead which are the packages apt says are unavailable ?05:12
HymnToLifeand*05:12
avatarmanit's on the link up there05:13
avatarmanoops05:13
avatarmanlemme paste it again05:13
avatarmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/841305:13
HymnToLifelooks like KDE packages05:14
HymnToLifeyou gotta add the KDE 3.5 repo05:14
avatarmanI guess I'm gonna have to play around with adding these repositories05:15
HymnToLifesee here : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php05:15
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avatarmanthanks05:15
HymnToLifeyou're welcome :)05:16
avatarmanKubuntu has done the best job with my hardware of any of the distros I've tried so far...05:16
avatarmanmy video card works great and my sound05:16
avatarmanI can play tux racer even05:17
avatarman=)05:17
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NeoChaosXanyone testing kubuntu dapper? how's it holding up?05:21
NeoChaosXI'm temped to upgrade to it now, but I don't want to run into any major breakages05:22
avatarmanI tried downloading the iso,  but somehow got the wrong version and gave up05:24
avatarmanI'm really trying to master the whole "build my system" thing at the moment.  Trying to get the programs I want.05:25
NeoChaosXHuh. You try Gentoo, or did that not work out for you?05:26
gammaNeoChaosX: it's better05:26
gammaNeoChaosX: err dapper is more stable than it was 2 weeks ago05:26
avatarmanI've tried slackware  -  which is good,  but I don't necessarily know what's happening sometimes05:26
gammacups doesn't work and kaffeine crashes konqueror every now and then05:26
avatarmanI started to install Arch and got past the first part but then got confused about adding the other packages after the base install05:27
NeoChaosXoh, hm. i guess i'll keep breezy until cups is fixed then05:27
gammaarch isn't that great05:27
gammayea when you see me screaming OMG IT WORKS then you can switch :P05:27
avatarmanI tried aLinux and it was full of insecurities05:28
NeoChaosXgamma: LOL. I'll keep that in mind, then05:28
avatarmanWhat got me started with Linux was first getting a copy of Linspire at the local computer store,  I didn't like it but then I found the SLAX live CD and that got me hooked on learning Linux05:29
NeoChaosXAh, I see05:30
NeoChaosXGentoo or Linux From Scratch are good learning experiences, too, but I'm sure you don't want to wait for X to compile05:30
avatarmanI'd have to print the directions from work.  I don't have a printer hooked up here at home05:31
avatarman=)05:31
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avatarmanI've been using a computer since 1995.  Surfing the web in those days helped me learn plenty of patience.05:31
avatarmanso, compilings not the problem,  it's just I'm still learning05:32
NeoChaosXah05:32
avatarmanI felt pretty good that I understood the base install of Arch and I managed to edit the one config file correctly.05:33
NeoChaosXAh, that's good05:33
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manveruhmm, i just hang in the install of kubuntu... it just stops after finding my scsi-disk05:39
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damnhilHOW do I remove the lock of apt-get? My Adept just crashed. The lock remains there.05:42
manverudelete it05:42
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NeoChaosXdamnhil: sudo killall adept05:44
manveruthis doesn't help if adept crashed...05:45
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Smeggybeefsprocket, woohoo, I got kde 3.5.1 installed05:46
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beefsprocketSmeggy: sweet, what do you think? how'd you do it?05:53
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Smeggybeefsprocket, it's great! I removed the majority of the kde3.4.x packages and installed it05:54
beefsprocketcool, have you rebooted? sometimes you discover something breaks when you do05:55
beefsprocketbut most of the time you don't have to05:55
Smeggyyup :D first thing I did to make sure :p05:55
SmeggyIt's all good :)05:55
SmeggyAt least so far lol05:55
beefsprocketwicked05:56
beefsprocketmake sure to file bug reports if you find any05:56
Smeggyyeah05:57
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damnhilDoes anyone know how to play .mov or .wmv video streams from the websites?06:05
ownermplayer06:08
owner!mplayer06:08
ubotumplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106106:08
lesHello all, anyone have any idea what packages contain gtk+-2.0? Dep problem06:12
Hobbsee!info gtk+-2.0-dev06:13
Hobbseeles: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/57/feed06:14
Hobbseeoops06:14
Hobbseelibgtk2.0-dev06:14
lesthank you, looks like I have some reading to do.06:15
lesI was the dev file I needed thanks again Hobbsee06:18
Hobbseeno problems :)06:18
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dcwckd!mp306:52
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:52
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_felipeim looking for help. ive seen on the repositories that the qemu 0.8.0 is available. Does anyone know how can i get adept to download the last vresion of the program???07:00
_felipeive alreadey uncommented all sources.list adresses07:01
_felipeanyone knows?07:04
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mandopandohi07:42
kezzerxirWhats the command to install the kernal headerS?\07:42
mr-russapt-cache search kernel07:42
mr-russsudo apt-get install <relevant package found by previous command>07:42
mandopandoapt-get install | grep headers | apt-cache search kernel   ?07:43
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kezzerxirhmm07:44
mandopandowont be dapper installable from livecd? why are 2 version of flight-cds there (install / live ) ?07:45
sampanmandopando  (k)ubuntu livecds are not install cds -- the two are separate.07:46
sampanthe dvds contain both i think.07:46
kezzerxirDo you know what those commands for the headers would be in mandriva07:47
mr-russmandopando: on that's all the wrong.07:48
sampankezzerxir  wouldn't it be better to ask about mandriva in the mandriva channel?07:48
kezzerxirawww irc nazis07:48
sampanmight improve your odds of getting a correct answer07:48
mr-russapt-get install `apt-cache search kernel | grep 'headers' | awk '{print $1}'`07:48
sampannaaaaa, not a nazi -- just trying to make sure you get your answer ;)07:48
kezzerxirruss is that it?07:50
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[Vampis] lulu07:53
[Vampis] kkathman: :)07:53
kkathmanhi there07:54
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[Vampis] kkathman: whazup ?07:57
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kkathmanahh not much...about to turn in for bed.07:59
kkathmanalmost 1am07:59
kkathmanin fact, Im outa here :)08:00
kkathmannighters08:00
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[Vampis] lol08:01
[Vampis] g'night :)08:01
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=== ubijtsa2 discovered unexpected behaviour yesterday with the kdenetwork package and zeroconf that it pulls in
ubijtsa2it hangs when trying to configure 'lo' interface, preventing the system from completing the boot08:29
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drumlineI'm looking for the place where I can switch the default run level to 3.. can somebody direct me?08:56
drumlinepreferably on the command line so I can switch it back when I need to..08:56
ubijtsa2drumline: if you do 'init 3' you go to runlevel 309:02
ubijtsa2drumline: you can set what the default runlevel is in /etc/inittab09:02
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drumlinecool...09:04
drumlinenow... editing which services start from the command line is next..  :)09:04
drumlinelooks like I just delete the symlink09:05
ubijtsa2drumline: you can use update-rc.d to set/reset/delete what goes in /etc/rc?.d/09:07
drumlinewow...   crazy09:07
drumlinewell that's an interesting way to do it...  thanks.  :)09:09
ubijtsa2np09:09
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fetishhello friends10:18
[Vampis] hello10:19
[Vampis] :)10:19
robotgeekhey10:19
fetishim new in kubuntu10:20
[Vampis] mmkay10:20
[Vampis] :>10:20
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richard2hola10:28
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ZuLu`ciao a tutti...10:37
Xemanth^hmm i have kubuntu x86 + ati mobility x700 with ati propblabla drivers: xvinfo says no adapters available.... i wonder what that means... mplayer doesn't allow video to xv either10:38
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Tallia1Kubuntuan additional bar where to put buttons, folder ecc like in kicker and that appear only on key combination?11:10
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Finite9does anyone have any tips for getting the kamera io_slave working with Konquerer?  I have an IXUS 400 and it is recognised by konquerer, but when I browse the camera, there is only 1 file--i dont see any photos.  What gives?12:31
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Xemanth^Finite9: i have ixus 400 at home but i don't have cable for it, its little broken camera... it has maximum zoom on all the time... picture is really blurry :>12:38
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Finite9Xemanth: I have no problems with my IXUS 400 - its slow to browse photos and to focus but image quality is very good12:45
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Firetechanyone more than me that have problems connecting Kopete to Google Talk?01:10
FiretechI get an unknown error01:10
Firetechlogin failed with unknown reason01:10
Firetechmaybe I supplied the wrong password :S01:10
Firetechhmm, yes.01:11
[Vampis] Hm, does kopete support google talk ?01:11
[Vampis] Is it default or do you need a plugin ?01:11
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morrowits just a jabber01:15
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[Vampis] aha01:27
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Mezhmm anyone here who uses amarok want to do a little testing for me?01:35
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HobbseeMez: what sort of testing?01:41
MezHobbsee, to see if SQLite allows subselects01:42
Mezwhich it doesnt seem to01:42
Meznow if only I know how to get the SQL engine from amarok01:44
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bhearne01:47
djk_how many decimal places can kcalc provide?01:49
ubijtsa2*grumble* how to make apt-get dist-upgrade _not_ ask any questions.. ?01:50
Hobbseeuse -y01:50
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Hobbseebut it's fairly risky01:50
ubijtsa2it's libc6 that insist on updating timezone, so -y doesn't help either..01:51
ubijtsa2Ralph_: I can't send pvt messages01:54
ubijtsa2or at least, the irc server whinges about it01:54
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Ralph_I was just wondering if you are performing a dist-upgrade, cause I did so yesterday with some errors. mvo helped out as this is his project (I believe).01:56
ubijtsa2yeh, I am probably not doing it "the normal way' though.01:56
Ralph_(5.10 to dapper)01:56
ubijtsa2I am installing dapper flight3 server-install via PXE, then a post-install script does the rest for me01:56
ubijtsa2and I am fixing up that post-inst script. The idea is a totally automated install..01:57
Ralph_mvo just warned me that you might have to run an apt-get -f install afterwards as a single package can stop the process.01:57
Ralph_And so it happened. Still trying to fix the x-server now.01:58
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ubijtsa2Yup.. at the moment though, 'apt-get -qq -y dist-upgrade' stops at setting up libc6, running tzconfig etc01:58
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NRG88vagy?01:59
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NRG88sorry01:59
NRG88wrong channel ;)01:59
weedarWhat decides which programs get started when you log on to KDE?01:59
Ralph_I was there too. Simply stopped the tzconfig with ctrl-c and did the apt-get -f insntall. Worked like a charm (for me).02:01
Ralph_At least the system is up and on dapper. Just some flaws with the x server.02:01
ubijtsa2Ralph_: it would do, if an attended install :)02:01
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ubijtsa2I am hacking something that means I should be able to re-install a worker box while I am at home.02:02
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ubijtsa2(also means people that does not know the perf rig could do it)02:02
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NRG88i can start firestarter only with sudo?02:04
csotany,02:04
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ubijtsa2mmhmmm, not even --force-yes bypasses that tzconfig question..02:05
Ralph_Cause the zoneinfo is missing.02:05
bmoHey guys, I was thinking of switching to kubuntu. In the past few days i've tested slackware, gentoo (which was pretty awsome) and mandrive since yesterday. But I can't seem to find any good documentation on mandrive, so i was wondering how it is with kubuntu? if its the same as mandrive then there is no point of switching.02:05
Ralph_Not installed yet, cause incomplete.02:06
ubijtsa2It tells me TZ is already set to England/London, do I want to change it?02:06
Ralph_You can't.02:06
Ralph_Don't!!!02:06
ubijtsa2mm..02:06
ubijtsa2the install is in VMware, so I can roll back easily enough02:07
ubijtsa2bmo: docs are pretty good02:07
ubijtsa2bmo: depends what you are after I guess02:07
Ralph_bmo: most importantly, online support (as here) is awsome.02:07
Ralph_You will always find somebody willing to help.02:08
djk_how many decimal places can kcalc provide with its 96bit double precision?02:08
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NRG88how can i make firestarter to start up with the KDE, and not to ask the supersuser pass?02:09
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Ralph_bmo: if you like Gentoo so much, you should try the rr4 live DVD. pretty cool (only a week old).02:09
bmoubijtsa2: sounds great and hw support? I'm tired of running around after drivers. Right now I've been searching 2 days on the net on how to get 3dccel to work on mandrive. And the ppl on #mandrive weren't that great :D02:09
ubijtsa2bmo: well, breezy installed flawlessly on a Dell GX280 here at work..02:09
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ubijtsa2came up with gfx login and all02:10
bmoRalph_ : Hmm, I should try that, but I really don't  have the time to test anymore. Right now I want a working dist :D ..02:10
weedarAny graphical (heh) way of enabling programs to start when logging in to KDE? (instead of manually fiddling around in ~/.kde/)02:10
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ubijtsa2weedar: you can set links in Autostart (or thereabouts)02:10
weedarubijtsa, thanks, but I've understood that. I was just hoping there was a GUI-way of doing it. A friend of mine prefers not fiddling around in a shell :)02:11
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ubijtsa2weedar: you can do it with konqueror and the menu I think02:11
weedarubijtsa, what menu?02:12
ubijtsa2select item in menu, click-hold, drag into Autostart, select to make link (or so)02:12
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ubijtsa2the kde menu02:12
managerhi, do you know a channel or aweb pages that gives informations about kubuntu on powerbooks ?02:12
weedarah, I see ubijtsa, good one! :)02:12
ubijtsa2manager: if there is a #kubuntu-ppc, that would be where I'd look :)02:13
ubijtsa2weedar: normally, if you have something running when you log out, it will be restarted next time you log in02:14
ubijtsa2it saves your session and so forth02:14
weedarubijtsa, of course. But sometimes there are programs you close during a session, yet still want it to start next time. Would be a bother to have to start all the programs before you logout to do so ;)02:14
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ubijtsa2create shortcuts to them on the desktop?02:15
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robotgeekmanager: hmm, there is no separate channel02:15
bmowhich version of KDE is kubuntu shipped with? can't find it on the main site02:19
robotgeekbmo: 3.4.3, though i guess you can upgrade to 3.5.1 also02:20
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bmoand will most likely mess something up :D but 3.4.3 sounds good.02:20
robotgeekbmo: i've havent heard anything bad, but i'm not upgrading (when i don't need to :))02:22
bmoDunno if it's worth it though, i checked the release note for 3.5 and it wasn't that much difference. Maybe i missed something.. anyways does kubuntu have like a package system like gentoo for instance? "emerge blabla" to download something.. apt?02:23
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robotgeekyes, apt-get02:24
matveihi02:24
robotgeekit's just beaauftiful :)02:24
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robotgeekbmo: Kmenu -> System -> Adept02:24
bmoand the installation, please tell me it has a gui :D .. (still scarred after gentoo, although it's a nice dist)02:24
robotgeekbmo: more gui compared to gentoo :)02:25
matveialsaconf doesnt exist in kubuntu ?02:25
robotgeekit's still ncurses based, but pretty easy to understand02:25
robotgeekno matvei02:25
matveihum :(02:25
matveiI have some difficulties with alsa02:26
matveiI have 2 soundcards02:26
matveibut i dont know how to select one particulary02:26
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matveiwith kde it's not possible :(02:27
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robotgeekhmm, i don't know matvei, ask in #ubuntu for a generic solution maybe?02:28
matveiokay i will !02:28
vgehey, is networking fixed in dapper?02:28
vgei mean the gui02:28
robotgeekvge: never used it, lol02:28
vgewell i can manage without it sure, but i jsut hate it beeing broken :)02:29
quei just downloaded firefox, and want to install it on kubuntu, so i can view flash. what to do?02:29
robotgeekque: which version?02:29
quefire 1.5 kubuntu 5.1002:29
quedo i always use the command line (or terminal window) to install programs?02:30
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robotgeekque: Kmenu -> System -> Adept02:31
robotgeekque, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:31
robotgeek!adept02:31
ubotuI heard adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:31
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quethanks!02:37
vgeque: you can also try "synaptic" if it suites you better, available in the repos02:38
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Ralph_que: if you are afraid of so many command lines, there is a simpler solution (which I used for convenience): adept to uninstall the old version and download the new version from the firefox website. Extract into a subfolder in your home directory and done.02:39
quewhat i've done so far is download and extract the files02:40
quei think they are in mye home dir02:40
Ralph_then you are ready do use the new firefox. just open konquerer and click on firefox in the new folder.02:40
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Ralph_que: you just might have some problems when using other programs to link to the new firefox.02:41
quethe icon looks like a terminal windows02:41
que-s02:42
queint he firefox folder02:42
quenothing happens when i launch it (if that's what i'mdoing)02:42
queclick it, that is02:42
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joseI'm getting this error when i start KDE: "Could not start kstartupconfig check your installation". Alguien me puede ayudar con eso?02:43
joseSomeone can help me with that?02:43
bohahello!02:44
bohai have 1 problem02:44
boha:'(02:44
Ralph_que: try in a shell to look for any problems02:44
bohai tryed to boot live cd02:44
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bohabut..02:44
bohathen i dot get into kubuntu02:45
quewhat about apt-get install firefox ?02:45
queerror code 13 - no access02:45
Ralph_que: thought you downloaded it already from the firefox website.02:46
bohait stops where kubunu is cheching hardware or something02:46
Ralph_que: did you download and extract as root?02:46
Ralph_que: (using sudo)02:46
bohaRalph?02:47
bohacan you help me?02:47
Ralph_I believe that apt-get install firefox won't give you the lastest version (I think you wanted 1.5)02:48
Ralph_boha: need some more details...02:49
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bohahmmm...02:49
blahhvolunteers needed:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12753402:50
Ralph_boha: you might have to diable some features (passed over as parameter at boot time) to get it working.02:50
blahhtour on login02:50
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bohahow can i do that ralph?02:51
bohai think it stops a cheching hard disks02:51
Ralph_boha: i.e. some laptops require the vga=771 option to get the graphic card working.02:51
joseI'm getting this error when i start KDE: "Could not start kstartupconfig check your installation".Someone can help me with that?02:52
bohaok tnx02:52
bohai will try somthing02:52
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Ralph_boha: try to find out what is stopping the boot process and set it off with the kernell parameter. You can still try to enable it later on.02:53
robotgeekblahh: hmm, look for Ubuntu Express02:53
ubijtsa2Ralph_: I think the answer to my problem is to use expect..02:53
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robotgeekblahh: hmm, actually that isn't it02:54
blahhwe are looking to make a tour of the ubuntu desktop at first login, including assistance in seting up internet connection, intro to synaptic, etc etc...02:55
blahhwe want to make it interactive02:55
robotgeekblahh: is your id jbaloul on the forums?02:55
blahhsomething like the winXP tour, and WinXP out of the box exoierience02:55
blahhyup02:55
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robotgeekblahh: if you need to get it included with ubuntu, and it has to remain one cd size, how will we fit movies?02:56
blahhrobotgeek: there are many different formats that it can be done including gash (gnu flash) which is very lite02:57
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blahhi don't think size is the issue02:57
blahhjust hands02:57
blahhdevelopers, graphic designers, qa, etc etc02:57
robotgeekblahh: hmm02:58
robotgeeki think they were planning to do something like that, and it may acutally be in the wings. brb02:58
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blahhanyone looking to contribute?02:59
robotgeekblahh: i'm asking someone if he knows of an existing effort02:59
blahhcool02:59
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DaveQ1how does one set the system wide fonts for non KDE apps ?? mine have gone all small and hard to read03:00
robotgeekblahh: i had the same idea about 2 weeks ago, i remember reading something somewhere :)03:00
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blahhha!03:00
robotgeekDaveQ1: Kmenu -> System Settings03:00
DaveQ1hmmm , i did that03:00
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DaveQ1yeah thats only changing KDE apps and windows03:02
DaveQ1Gaim, Thunderbird, firefox, adept all display this ultra small font, REAL tough on the eyes.  KDE apps are fine03:03
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robotgeekDaveQ1: Apppearance, gtk-styles and fonts03:03
DaveQ1robotgeek:  packages i need ??03:03
DaveQ1oh, menus ok03:03
robotgeekblahh: apparently canonical is hiring "professionals" to do this for ubuntu03:04
DaveQ1robotgeek: hmmmm it doesnt open anything, just a bouncing cursor and then nothing03:04
blahhrobotgeek: really ! when were send a link03:05
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DaveQ1robotgeek:  what is that meant to launch ??03:05
robotgeekblahh: no links, i asked a guy in the doc team03:06
robotgeekblahh: however, we can try for kubuntu i think03:06
blahhah i c....very cool03:06
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blahhwhy they are not going to do it for kde?03:06
blahhrobotgeek: lets do it03:07
blahhopen your channels03:07
robotgeekheh, don't ask me. maybe you should create a spec, and mail the sounder mailing list03:07
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robotgeeki meant for "hy they are not going to do it for kde?"03:08
robotgeeki am willing to help for kde :)03:08
DaveQ1ok, i got the GTK config section through launching the System Settings03:08
robotgeekblahh: ^^03:08
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DaveQ1but any changes i make have no effect, currently set for font 16 ; upping to 25 doesnt make a diff03:09
DaveQ1i didnt think they were actually03:09
blahhcan you put your poet in the forum so the rest know of it03:09
blahhpoet=post03:09
robotgeekblahh: yes, posting right away03:09
DaveQ1umm Gaim is still small too and Gaim is GTK for sure03:09
blahh10x03:09
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CellarDoorhello all03:12
CellarDooranyone had any problems installing kubuntu for amd64 ?03:13
blahhrobotgeek: i am doing my best :)03:14
CellarDoorI've been trying to get the amd64 version to install on my friends computer but it just hangs and says something about checksum failure... the disc is fine on other systems03:14
CellarDoorAll ubuntu/kubuntu discs on his system are coming up with the same error and wont install03:15
CellarDoorhe's desperate03:16
CellarDoorsobbing and kicking wildly on the floor03:16
CellarDoorits not pretty03:16
robotgeekCellarDoor: and that error is?03:16
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CellarDoorwait, we have to plug his computer back in because we've packed up03:21
bohaRalph_?03:22
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CellarDoorok firing it up again, will give details in a few moments03:24
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CellarDoorThis is what were getting, "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the integrity of your CD-ROM"... When we check the CD's integrity we get, "The ./install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted.""03:27
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CellarDoorSame error is reported from any ubuntu disk on his computer - they work fine on my system03:28
CellarDoorAnd we are n00bs03:29
CellarDoor:P03:29
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bozcellardoor did you burn your own cd? or is it an "official" press?03:30
CellarDoorI burned my own03:30
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dipnlikCellarDoor: maybe the disc was burnt at too high speed03:30
CellarDoorBut I have an official ubuntu here and that reported the same error03:30
boztry a reburn i had the same problem, i finally gave up and ordered 5 cd' from ShipIt03:31
CellarDoordipnlik: I tried 4x (slow as my drive will go) no luck03:31
dipnlikweird03:31
bozlol you didn't happen to pull your "victim" machine off the garge shelf did you?  I had to clean my cd-rom on an install the other day?03:32
CellarDoorThis is a new system03:32
bozi'm with dipinlik then.....weird03:33
CellarDoorathlon64, gigabyte mobo, benq dw1640 dvd burner03:33
CellarDoorI'm at a loss03:33
vgehmm, can i force programs to remember my root password allways when entering adept or programs like that, i can check the "remeber for this session", but after reboot?03:33
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farousCellarDoor: and you are using the 64 install cd?03:34
CellarDooryes03:34
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CellarDoorWhat if I get him to burn it on his system under Windows instead of me burning it on mine and then giving it to him ?03:35
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ctabordaHi I need some help!!! I changed my login manager theme and now it doesnt work... and it wont let me log in...03:36
CellarDoorHis system doesnt seem to like anything I burned on my system :P03:36
ctabordaHow can I change from KDM and GDM login manager ? I forgot the file that I need to edit03:36
farousctaborda: dpkg -reconfigure gdm03:37
farousor kdm whatever you have installed03:37
farousCellarDoor: and your friend has an amd 64 too03:37
CellarDooryes03:37
CellarDoor:P03:37
ctabordafarous: that wont work :S03:38
farousctaborda: stick sudo infornt of it03:38
faroussudo dpkg -reconfigure03:38
ctabordai did ofcourse03:38
robotgeekctaborda: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm03:38
faroustry which gdm03:38
CellarDoorMy system = no problems... His system = talk to the hand03:38
CellarDoorI don't geddit03:39
ctabordafarous: and robotgeek: It does reconfigure it, but reloads and gives me the same error..03:40
ctabordawhat is the file to edit to select XDM or KDM or GDM?03:40
farouswhat err?03:40
ctabordaError with the theme03:40
vgehey, when i click an external html link, firefox tryes to open it locally (file://) how do i prevent this?03:40
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farousctaborda: for the reconfigure to work you need to reboot or kill the display manager manually03:41
ctabordafarous: I did.. still wont work03:42
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snikkeri've got a problem with synaptic (apt-get update same error):  unable to get cdrom:    can you help me?03:45
robotgeeksnikker: do you have the cdrom in the drive?03:45
snikkerrobotgeek: yes03:45
Ralph_snikker: is it mounted?03:46
snikkerrobotgeek: yes03:46
robotgeeksnikker: put the cdrom in the tray, and type "sudo apt-cdrom add"03:46
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snikkerrobotgeek: i've already do it, but i've got this error: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc03:47
ctabordaSo anyone know what file it is I need to edit to change between xdm, kdm and gdm?03:47
robotgeek /etc/X11/default-display-manager03:48
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P4C0hello guys03:48
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snikkerrobotgeek: the problem is occourred when i've uncheck the flag cdrom.... in synaptic  when i've re-checked it doesn't work03:49
robotgeeksnikker: do you have an internet connection?03:49
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ctabordathanks03:50
robotgeeki mean on the linux box :)03:50
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bozcellardoor, http://home.online.no/~osmoma/how2burn.html03:50
snikkerrobotgeek: yes03:50
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robotgeeksnikker: maybe you can comment out the cdrom repository in your sources.list "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"03:51
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P4C0guys how can I check all the packages available for kubuntu?03:51
tijnhi all Q: my new laptop just arrived, want to install kubuntu, and it just does nothing Uncompressing Linux.... booting the kernel03:51
tijnand thats it :/03:51
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Ralph_tijn: try booting with the option vga=77103:52
snikkerrobotgeek: the cdrom repository in sources.list is already uncommented :-(03:52
dipnlikis there a simple kde image viewer that also can do basic editing such as resize pictures? tried gwenview with kipi-plugins but it doesn't resize proportionally03:53
tijnRalph_, got a point there!03:53
robotgeeksnikker: i meant, comment it out. put a  '#" in front of the line03:53
dipnlikfor windows users, i want something like irfanview03:53
P4C0guys how can I list all the packages available for kubuntu?03:53
robotgeekP4C0: packages.ubuntu.com or look for it from adept03:54
snikkerrobotgeek: ah, ok....  i but i don't want download the things that i've already got on dvd... any other ideas?03:54
P4C0thanks robotgeek03:54
robotgeekor apt-cache search, P4C003:54
P4C0robotgeek, no I don't have kubuntu here, I'm planning to install it, but will like to take a look at the official package list before03:54
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mo0osahanyone here who can help this idiot?03:55
tijnRalph_, nope doesnt do the trick, uncompressing vmlinuz... black screen03:56
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robotgeekP4C0: hmm, looking03:56
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mo0osahi was mounting my external usb hard drive and messed up my fstab03:57
mo0osahhow do i fix it03:57
P4C0robotgeek, warty, hoary, hoary-backports, breezy, breezy-backports, dapper !?03:57
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robotgeekP4C0: you probably should use breezy03:58
robotgeekwhich are releases for (k)ubuntu03:58
tijni see more info without vga=771 than with :/03:59
P4C0robotgeek, thanks, I'm just not sure, I'm a slackware user, and was planning to install kubuntu to my girlfriend... but don't know, and this are .deb packages? my experience with that is not as good as I'll like03:59
robotgeekP4C0: with debs? surprising04:00
robotgeekP4C0: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/ you can find lists here (file-blah.list)04:00
tijnmmh damn04:02
tijnwhen trying debian the same happens :/04:02
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P4C0robotgeek, yes, when you remove a deb it keeps the etc files, then you install a new version and it keeps the old and purge usually didn't work the way it should, so you end up with a command line of about 250 characters to make something really simple...04:03
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robotgeekP4C0: heh04:03
P4C0robotgeek, in slack for example if you remove something it remove it all, and if you install a package that have a etc file that already exist it adds .new to the file name, so you can then make a diff and choose what to do, so been used to that is kind of strange for me to change, even it's not that user friendly at all04:05
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robotgeekP4C0: apt-get shoudl as kyou if you want to install it, and you can diff it while installation04:06
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AnsiChello04:06
robotgeekshould ask you04:06
AnsiChttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/cC5O0B98.html04:07
trappistP4C0: apt-get remove --purge will also wipe out your config files04:07
AnsiC3ddesktop return that errors !!04:07
AnsiCsomeone can help me ?04:07
ctabordahi, I am having some problems with my login manager... I get a theme error and wont let me login... how can I solve this?...  I tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm and will not work04:07
P4C0yep, "*should*"04:07
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trappistAnsiC: make sure you have load "dri" in your xorg.conf04:07
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AnsiCnow i'm on gnome04:08
P4C0trappist, in debian or (k)ubuntu? cause I have tried it a lot of times in debian and for somepackages it dosen't work04:08
AnsiCgnome use xorg to04:08
AnsiCor use xfree86?04:08
trappistP4C0: it's possible (probable) that some packages are imperfect in that some config files aren't flagged as such04:08
robotgeekP4C0: it should be apt-get remove --purge <package>04:08
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robotgeekhowever, i dunno how t odo that for the dependencies04:09
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P4C0I will give it a try :)04:09
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vgels04:13
tijnRalph_, Thnx for your help, cant reply cuz iam not registered :/04:14
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tijnRalph_, but when i booted with linux noapic nolapic it worked04:15
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[Vampis] *humming*04:33
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AnsiChttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GVUaLs97.html  <== lspci output04:35
AnsiChttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ciK0kn73.html  <== 3ddesk output04:35
AnsiCsomeone can help me ?04:35
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Armagguedeshello04:42
Armagguedesi wanted to install kubuntu on a multi-partitioned disc, but when i checked the windows partiiton, it had a /media/hda1 bootflag. shouldn't it be /windows, as i've seen somewhere on the install process?04:42
robotgeekhi04:42
robotgeekno clue Armagguedes , never done windows dual booting :(04:42
robotgeekmaybe also ask in #ubuntu?04:43
Armagguedesok tks04:43
Armagguedesi have04:43
kkathmanhello robotgeek04:43
Armagguedesbeing ignored04:43
Armagguedesbtw do you know if kde351 has fixed that obnoxious bug in which you cant activate the wireless card?04:43
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Armagguedesi enabled it and immediatly after it disabled itself04:44
Armagguedesusing sudo kcontrol04:44
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kkathmanArmagguedes: thats not a kde error actually, but a kubuntu one.  I believe there is a bug that already exists on it.04:45
robotgeekhey kkathman , morning04:45
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Armagguedeshm04:46
Armagguedesdoes it exist on the regular ubuntu?04:46
kkathmanI know it does not exist on other distros04:46
tijnhow is Ati support in kubuntu?04:46
kkathmantijn: its hit and miss with ATI in general04:47
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tijnmmh04:47
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tijnso it works but sometimes not :D04:48
kkathmantijn: in general, ATI isnt the most linux friendly04:48
kkathmanbut most of the standard, pre-installed cards are supported04:48
kkathmantijn:  I think its the multifunction cards that are the bigger problems04:48
Armagguedesin other words, no x900xt superpluswtv for you04:49
robotgeekkkathman: may i /msg you?04:49
Ralph_tijn: I got my ATI running. Used this (http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/artikel/1503/Ati-Treiber-installiernschnell-und-einfach.html) and it worked for me.04:49
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NRG88hi, i can't connect to gmail04:49
NRG88:(04:49
kkathmanthere are alot of workarounds tho04:49
NRG88i installed firestarter04:49
Armagguedesme neither NRG8804:50
NRG88i can only connect, if i click Stop Firewall04:50
Armagguedesi have an msn account there and i cant login04:50
tijnok thanks, Ralph_ is that in german?04:50
tijnwhoa Kubuntu is, everything works! wifi and all :D04:50
NRG88stop firewall stops the firestarter processes, or the iptables?04:50
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NRG88because it only works, if i click stop firewall04:51
Ralph_tijn: Ups, sorry, missed that. But the commands are pretty self-explanatory.04:51
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tijnRalph_, i will fresh up my german :D04:52
Ralph_tijn: If you need translation - just ask.04:52
NRG88i can't connect to wiki.kubuntu.org or wiki.ubuntu.org either04:52
tijnok! thnx04:52
tanubisCan I ask questions on setting stuff up here?04:52
NRG88Armagguedes, i think it's something that it has with secure connections04:53
NRG88i noticed in fitefox04:53
NRG88i noticed in firefox04:53
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ctabordaGuys how can I change the default programs? like I dont want Konqueror to be my default browser...04:55
tanubisAhwell... worth a shot.   Question:  I just installed a fresh kubuntu on an Averatec 3300 laptop, and it seems to detect the onboard wireless fine.  I told it to use the hardline in the install as the default connection, but it doesn't seem to want to allow the wifi to work.  The Kwifimanager picks up my home network at 97% and claims it's connected, but it doesn't seem to want to use DHCP to give itself an IP.  Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?04:55
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robotgeektanubis: hmm, maybe this will help04:56
robotgeektanubis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:56
LjLtanubis: i don't know the answer, but yes, you can definitely ask this kind of questions here04:56
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tanubisI'll give it a shot, thanks04:56
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tanubisok, it doesn't seem to use the same sort of gui as ubuntu, but I went into the system settings and found something similar.  I have network settings up on my screen under the system settings, and it lists both my NICs.  The ethernet one shows as enabled, and the wifi as disabled.  When I use the interface to enable the wifi, it flicks to a checkmark for about 1/2 a second and then goes back to disabled.05:02
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bl42erhi all05:08
bl42eri have problem with my sound card, help me05:08
trappist!ask05:10
trappisthrm.05:10
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bl42ersb live 2405:11
bl42ernot sound when i play music05:11
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tanubishmmm05:13
tanubisI tried to do this in ifconfig, and I set up as much as I could.  It's detecting other networks in the area now as well as mine, but still doesn't want to connect.05:13
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asranielhei, anyone here has the same problem that kdevelop is very unstable? it crashes all the time05:14
kkathmanasraniel:  not the first time Ive heard that comment, though I dont use it personally05:15
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asranielkkathman: its realy horrible, you cant develop anything without a crash. at least i know where i dont have to click (there is one button in particular that kills kdevelop 50% of the time, but i need it!)05:17
tijnQ: with amarok, how to play mp3?05:18
tijniam now getting gstreamer0.8-lame dunno if this works05:19
kkathmanasraniel: are you programming in C then?05:19
tanubisdoes anyone know how I can get a broader range of package repositories?05:19
tanubisit seems fairly narrow05:19
tanubisI just don't want to make my system go crunch by adding a whole bunch of new ones :S05:19
Ralph_tijn: how did the ATI thing work?05:20
kkathmanasraniel: I dont know how valuable it may be, but for an editor Quanta is very stable, especially for HTML, CSS. PHP, Python, PERL, and XML kinds of things..which are my interests.05:20
tijnRalph_, not yet, have to do that @home05:20
tijn@work atm05:20
tijnnow i wanna play some music for in the car :D05:20
tijnah got sound :D05:22
tijnwith xmms though :)05:22
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jmarrerohello05:23
jmarrerosomeone here compiles his own kernel on kubuntu?05:23
NRG88how can i restart KDE without endig my session?05:24
NRG88like xchat, amarok, etc.05:24
jmarreroI dont know :(05:24
Tm_TNRG88: you really can't05:24
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NRG88i have to logout?05:24
jmarreroyep05:25
NRG88ok05:25
Tm_Tprolly yes05:25
Nomad411If I setup Windows as a dual boot to my XP, I can keep a third partition for data exchange between the two, right?  Formatting FAT?05:26
Nomad411I'm open to suggestions?05:26
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jmarreroNomad Fat32 is the one I use05:26
Nomad411Oh even gooder :)05:26
jmarrerofor that05:26
Nomad411looking up mkfs now05:27
Nomad411vfat?05:27
jmarreroI have Kubuntu / Win Xp and got a fat32 6gig partition with mp3s05:27
Nomad411How did you format it, from Win of Linux?05:28
Nomad411or linux?05:28
jmarreroWindows05:28
Nomad411ahh ok, then we can pick it up from Kubuntu05:28
Nomad411!fat3205:28
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:28
jmarreroyep :)05:29
Nomad411Hum.. I coudl have XP be fat32 too maybe then05:29
NRG88does anyone use mozilla thunderbird?05:30
Nomad411who doesn,t?05:31
Nomad411:)05:31
NRG88i need to import my account settings from windows05:31
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Nomad411thunderbird there too?05:31
NRG88yep05:32
Nomad411transfer the default.?!%$!#(&!#whatever folder that is your account05:32
NRG88ok, thanks05:32
Nomad411You may have to re-permissions stuff once transferred, you'll see05:32
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Nomad411I don't recall problems when i did05:33
NRG88Nomad411, i used thunderbird 1.505:34
NRG88seems like 1.0.7 has some problems with my account files05:34
Nomad411not me yet though.. Should be same.. They must have somethign on teh Tb website about this..05:34
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kameronis there anything like gdeskcal for kde?05:36
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pussfellerwhats the dcop grapical interface called?05:56
pussfelleri thot it was Dcop or something05:56
Tm_Tkdcop?05:56
Tm_Tmagical K ;)05:56
jpatrickTm_T: that's it!05:56
pussfellerthx05:57
Tm_Thi jpatrick05:57
jpatrickhello05:57
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Tm_Twhats up05:57
jpatrickjust some things for the meeting05:57
jpatrick(homework too :P)05:57
jpatrickomg, new features at Last :)05:58
Tm_Twhat?06:00
jpatrickhttp://www.last.fm/updates/feb2006.php06:01
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kkathmanwould anyone know why, when kubuntu starts up and alsa is started, there would be a continual buzz/squeal in my speakers?  Its not the sound card, as it works perfectly with windows and with SuSE under 3.5.1.06:06
Tm_Tjpatrick: aah, just if they could keep their main service stable =)06:06
Tm_Tkkathman: volume levels are f*ed in some level?06:07
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jpatrickkkathman: do you have 3D enchanement on? (I hated the static that made)06:07
kkathmanTm_T:  well I can pull the volumes down and its still there..and It specifically starts as soon as you see the boot up process start Alsa06:07
Tm_Tkkathman: interesting, maybe there's something going on in alsamixer06:08
kkathmanjpatrick:  no I have no such capability on my video card (very basic vid card)06:08
jpatrickvideo card/sound?06:08
kkathmanTm_T:  ???06:08
=== cold_m how i make my computer to limit connection on speed on internet to others computers?
kkathmanjpatrick:  no it is absolutely NOT the card because when I boot the same box to Suse, there are no problems whatsoever06:08
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kkathmanso Im thinking it must be something in Alsa06:09
kkathmanfor sure06:09
jpatrickkkathman: first you were talking about speakers, next you mention vid cards...06:09
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Tm_Tkkathman: does mute help?06:09
kkathmanjpatrick:  you mentioned 3D06:09
kkathmanTm_T:  I can turn the speakers OFF and it doesnt help06:10
kkathmanI know that sounds weird06:10
jpatrickkkathman: KMix has an option for 3D enchanement06:10
kkathmanbut again...doesnt happen with windows or Suse06:10
Tm_Tkkathman: but in alsamixer, if mute there, does it help?06:10
kkathmanjpatrick:  I will check that06:10
kkathmanlet me reboot06:10
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cold_mei06:11
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cold_msomeone do you listen for Hristo Stoichkov06:11
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cold_mthis is football star!06:13
cold_m:)06:13
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mmHgcan anybody help with a g++ compile problem?06:13
mmHgI can't even compile a simple "hello world" - looks like some kind of library issue06:14
Nomad411!xp06:14
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41106:14
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trappistmmHg: sudo apt-get install build-essential06:14
cold_mshhh06:14
cold_mwhat are you speeking?06:15
jpatrickEnglish.....06:15
mmHgtrappist:  thanks, I'll give it a try06:15
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cold_mjpatrick, i know...this was a joke ;)06:15
kkathman-awayjpatrick:  went to kmix - it responds to the volume meter06:16
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kkathmanand I turned off the "master surround" which removed the buzz06:16
mmHgtrappist:  it worked!  thanks a bunch06:17
jpatrickright06:17
kkathmannow I need to find something I can try to get a system notification06:17
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jpatrickis there no 3D option (that's what causes static here)06:18
kkathmanjpatrick:  can you tell me how you have your kmix sliders set?  which one are "on"06:18
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jpatrickall, but 3D06:18
kkathmanjpatrick:  I tried just turning off the 3d, but that didnt stop the problem06:18
jpatrickhmmm06:19
kkathmanjpatrick:  could you go through your "switches" then?06:20
jpatricknone on06:20
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kkathmanif I turn off the "spread fron to Surround and center - the buzz goes away too06:20
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jpatrickI haven't got that option06:20
dcwckdanyone around?06:21
jpatrickdcwckd: loads06:21
cold_mwho doesn't turn off your computer06:21
dcwckdlol awesome06:21
cold_mwho have the best uptime? :)06:21
NRG88i have imported my profiles in thunderbird, but it say's that something is wrong, like something about read/write permissions06:21
kkathmanhow would I get the system to play a sound (not a CD) ??06:21
dcwckdubuntu packages lineakd06:21
kkathmanahh wait I know06:21
dcwckdI want to know how I can install klineakconfig06:21
dcwckdanyone heard of this app06:21
kkathmanyah Im getting no sound now06:22
kkathman:(06:22
dcwckdno one?06:23
kkathmanyanno...systemsetting just sucks in kubuntu :(  lots and lots of bugs there06:23
cold_meiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii06:24
cold_mda vi eba maikata...06:24
kkathmanthey gotta fix that !!06:24
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NRG88does anyone use thunderbird?06:26
jpatrickNot me06:27
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NRG88Nomad411?06:27
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cold_mno no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no06:27
Nomad411yup06:27
Nomad411yes06:27
Nomad411:)06:27
NRG88i imported my profiles06:27
Nomad411NRG88: what's up? How did it go?06:27
NRG88eventually i installed 1.506:27
NRG88but there's some problem with permission i think06:28
Nomad411ok..06:28
Nomad411is there a particular message or error?06:28
NRG88it says something, about read/write permissions06:28
NRG88yep06:28
Nomad411Basically, I'll bet it's more ownership06:28
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Nomad411are you fluent with linux commandline?06:28
NRG88a little06:28
kkathmanjpatrick:  thanks for the help, seems ok now06:28
jpatrickgreat :)06:29
Nomad411if you open up a konsole, go to teh folder where your profile i sstored06:29
Nomad411cd $home/.thunderbird  or cd $home/.mozilla-thunderbird06:29
NRG88there06:29
Nomad411ls -al06:29
NRG88its home/nrg88/.thunderbird :)06:30
kameronanyone use superkaramba?06:30
Nomad411what's your username/group showing for the default.%@#@ folder?06:30
Nomad411sp nrg88 then06:30
Nomad411so06:30
NRG88nrg8806:30
NRG88permissions: drwxr-xr-x06:30
Nomad411if you type chown -R nrg88.nrg88 default.whatveritIs06:31
Nomad411It'll make sure that first you own everything underneath there06:31
Nomad411do that and restart Thunderbird06:31
Nomad411Did it pickup your folders and mail and everything?06:32
NRG88yes06:33
cold_mmaika ti da eba ludaaaa06:33
NRG88but i still have an alert06:33
bohai need some help06:33
Nomad411Q: I'm trying to setup windows "second", and it should be on hdb.  It refuses to install there since I don't have a windows partition on hda.  Should I just dicsonnect hda, install, and manually add Xp to grub after?06:33
Nomad411ok, then, permissions would be..06:34
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Nomad411chmod -R 775 defualt.&?#    I asssume06:34
Nomad411heheh    asssume06:34
bohaanyone linux maniac here?06:34
wimpiesis there any more recent version of firefox than 1.0.7 packaged for kunbutu 5.10 ?06:34
Nomad411!firefox06:34
wimpies!firefox06:35
wimpieswhat do you mean ?06:35
Nomad411broken06:35
Nomad411!firefox1.506:35
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:35
Nomad411there :)06:35
wimpiesThx06:35
Nomad411np :)06:35
bohaNomad411?06:35
Nomad411yes06:35
NRG88Nomad411, thank you very much :)06:35
bohai have 1 problem witl linux can you help me?06:36
NRG88it works06:36
Nomad411NRG88: kewl :)06:36
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Nomad411Go forth ane muslitply spam now!06:36
Nomad411woops..06:36
Nomad411bad typos06:36
Nomad411boha: just spell out the problem and if someone can help they probably will06:36
Nomad411!windows06:36
ubotuhmm... windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative06:37
Nomad411lol06:37
Nomad411!xen06:37
ubotuxen is probably a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .06:37
bohai have to paste 24 lines:D so its better to paste them in privat;)06:37
Nomad411no, use pastebin06:37
bohahow?06:37
wimpies!firefox1.506:37
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:37
Nomad411!pastebin06:37
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)06:37
wimpies!mplayer06:37
ubotuhmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106106:37
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Nomad411:)06:38
Nomad411is Xen good?06:38
wimpiesNomad411 : well never to old to learn ... ;)06:39
Nomad411So anyone with advice on installing windows on hdb?06:40
NRG88hm06:40
NRG88try removing the linux hdd?06:40
bohaok i post in postbin :D06:40
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NRG88then only one hdd will be there06:40
trappistNomad411: if you're doing winxp, should be a breeze from the installer.  if it's something like win98, can't be done.06:41
Nomad411it is XP, but refuses to do it, it wants me to wipe out a partition on hda?06:41
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trappistNomad411: sounds like a problem for #windows :)06:42
Nomad411trappist: If I disconnect hda, install on hdb and reconnect, I should be able to set up grub to boot XP?06:42
trappistyes06:42
Nomad411trappist: You're rigth of course06:42
Nomad411Thanks06:42
Nomad411boha: what's up, pasted yet?06:42
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bohayes06:43
Nomad411You hav eto paste the link back in here after rigth ? :)06:43
bohahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/844106:43
bohaoky:D06:43
NRG88Nomad411, why don't hou disable hda from bios if you can, else just remove the IDE cable06:43
NRG88then XP will see only one drive06:44
Nomad411boha: ^^here it ends  means that it stops there?06:44
NRG88install xp, then modify grub06:44
bohayes06:44
NRG88it should work06:44
Nomad411NRG88: Yup, thanks :)06:44
bohado i have to press something?06:44
NRG88yw :)06:45
Nomad411boha: not much I can do, your best bet is to ask in here, once in a while, not every 5 minutes of course06:45
Nomad411and googling fo rit06:45
bohaoky tnx:)06:45
Nomad411actually, why not disconnect USB things an dboot without them.06:46
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Nomad411then plug them in one by one, you seem to hav ea problem with IRQ, I dunno :)06:46
Nomad411Or at least disconnect the things you don't really need06:46
bohaoh so you tink that USB tink are responsible for that?06:47
bohai will try06:47
bohatnx06:47
Nomad411I'm not even sure it,s that either.. :(06:47
Nomad411good luck06:47
bohai have cable for camera in USB06:48
bohai wil pull out06:48
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bohabrb06:49
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mo0osahOn my internal harddrive i had windows and linux partitions and a partition for data storage between windows and linux06:51
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mo0osahi just installed kubuntu06:51
mo0osahcan someone tell me how to data partition up06:52
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rokacan i install a x86 .deb package on my amd64?06:53
mo0osahwhy would you do that06:53
mo0osahdefeats the purpose of 64bit processor06:53
rokawhen i try to install its says that the .dev isent the same as my arch06:53
mo0osahget x86 6406:53
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rokabut i want to install the x86 mplayer so i can use the plugins06:54
trappistroka: if you have a 64 bit system, you'll need to set up a 32 bit chroot for that06:54
mo0osahI think amd supports 32 bit aswell06:54
Xemanth^roka: i had same problem, i unistalled x86-64 and installed x8606:54
Xemanth^roka: i mean distro06:55
_igorhey.... why when i start adept from the menu it wont start?06:55
Xemanth^too many problems with x86-64 and then even ati cra*06:55
_igorit just makes some signs of trying really hard but then dies on me06:56
_igorbut running sudo adept works fine06:57
_igorcan anyone explain this to me please?06:57
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Nomad411_igor: mayeb try starting it without sudo, from teh command line.. You should see error mesages if any06:58
_igorright06:58
Nomad411_igor: the command from my menu is   adept %i %m -caption "%c"06:59
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dcwckd!grub07:00
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:00
weedarAnyone know how to turn off one-clicking in KDE? :)07:00
Nomad411_igor: compare what you have in your menu07:00
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dcwckdweedar07:00
_guiguicoucou07:00
dcwckdsys settings -> mouse :P07:00
weedard'oh07:00
weedarthanks dcwckd  ;)07:00
NRG88Nomad411, can i make thunderbird minimize to tray?07:00
_guiguihello i am a new07:00
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_guiguiwho can help me i am french07:01
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_igorNomad411: same command07:01
_guiguihelllo07:01
_guiguinobody can help me07:02
Nomad411_igor: did it start in read-only mode?07:02
_igoryeah07:02
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Nomad411You want to be not french anymore?   LOL    je suis francophoen aussi..07:02
Nomad411francophone07:02
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_guiguicool un francais07:02
_igorNomad411: yeas07:02
_igoryes07:02
boha!pastebin07:03
_guiguije vien juste d installer ubuntu et g qq pb07:03
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:03
slow-motionhallo07:03
Nomad411_igor: I don,t know.. sorrty :(07:03
Nomad411Attends..07:03
Nomad411!fr07:03
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:03
NRG88Nomad411, can i make thunderbird minimize to tray?07:03
Nomad411Voila.. :)07:03
_guiguitu peu m aider nomad41107:03
NRG88or i need a plugin?07:04
Nomad411NRG88: dunno, tell me how when you find out, woudl like it too07:04
NRG88ok07:04
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Nomad411_guigui: vient a #kubuntu-fr07:04
_igori just don't get it, why is there an item in the Menu i can only run in command line?!!!?07:05
Nomad411NRG88: Good point07:06
tanubisI have a bit of a strange problem...  Kubuntu seems to have gotten confused between my wireless card and my hardline07:06
tanubisit says I'm connected with wireless, and it detects my network...  but as soon as I unplug, it goes down07:06
tanubisand the IP it says it is connected to is a hardline ip, not a wireless one07:07
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tanubiswhat can I do to sort it out?07:07
Nomad411tanubis: It may be that you have some kind of bridging going on..07:07
Nomad411follow through your networking maybe, traceroute to the gatweay, etc.. see if you go through the line07:08
Nomad411nothign weird in your network settings?07:08
tanubisnot that I know of...07:08
tanubislet me check07:09
cyanid3I'm trying to run a dvd in a fairly new installation of kubuntu using mplayer.  All that it does is display a black screen.  Do I have to install anytying after the ubuntu install to play dvds?07:09
Nomad411tanubis: i.e. is your gateway for the wifi card the other nic?07:09
Nomad411!dvd07:10
ubotuit has been said that dvd is DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:10
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cyanid3hmm, i swear i checked for htat07:10
Nomad411ahh07:10
cyanid3maybe I'm crazy though07:10
Nomad411I rememebr have=ing a hell of a hard time at first with that a long tine ago.. Kinda blurry now..07:10
Nomad411!crazy07:10
ubotuNomad411: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:10
Nomad411nope, seemingly fine :007:11
tanubisok, it has the network connected now, but the hardline isn't working07:11
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tanubisif I run lshw -C network , it tells me that network1 (eth1) is disabled, everything else seems ok07:12
tanubisbut when I go ifup eth1 , it reports an error: ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth107:12
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cyanid3I eat my hat : ).  libdvdcss wasn't installed07:14
cyanid3thanks !07:14
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stodgeAnyone updated kubuntu to KDE 3.5.1?07:14
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Nomad411stodge: yes07:14
Nomad411fun ain't it?07:14
stodgeWas it painless?07:14
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jpatrickstodge: it will yes07:15
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KnowerrorsAnybody here know the kppp setup for a winmodem? I got Intel 536ep working, but it connects at 26.4, which usually means some kind of connection error07:15
Nomad411must go work.. adios.07:15
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stodgeDo you add one of the repositories to adept and perform a full upgrade?07:15
jpatrickyes07:16
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sonicGuys, I just heard Oracle are buying Zend. What will this mean for us?07:16
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stodgeOk well here we go!07:17
`Nomad_Awaysonic: what? really..07:18
sonicSo I hear, along ith JBoss and SleepyCat07:19
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NRG88`Nomad_Away, ?07:19
NRG88still here?07:19
Grim76_WorkHow would you go about stopping totem from loading when you put a video dvd into the dvd drive?07:19
NRG88found something07:19
NRG88there isn'n any plugin, that could minimize thunderbird to tray, but there is a linux utility, called KDocker07:20
NRG88http://kdocker.sourceforge.net/07:20
slow-motionbbl07:20
NRG88or you can add it to your adept source list:07:20
NRG88deb http://dinton.no-ip.org/ kubuntu main07:20
NRG88deb-src http://dinton.no-ip.org/ kubuntu main07:20
sonicNomad_Away: I just had a quick look for some info and found this http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/02/10/oracle_opens_source_acquisition/07:20
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bohaI have problems with kubuntu LIVE CD. I get this on my screen ->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i844307:21
bohacan anyone help me?07:22
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as_284hello07:23
bohahy07:23
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as_284i have firefox and  konqueror as webrowser, and i installed flash for them but is not working properly, it doesent show the text of the movies, any ieda why?07:24
trappistas_284: the RestrictedFormats page on wiki.ubuntu.com has some suggestions for that07:25
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as_284trappist: thanks, i will check it out07:26
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gleesondis there a way to make thunderbird my default email client07:31
gleesondbecause every time I try to make email from my browser it trys to open up evolution07:31
Jaymacsure07:34
Jaymacwhy evolution anyway?07:34
Jaymacyou not on kde?07:34
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gleesondi am in kde07:34
Jaymacanyways:07:34
Jaymachere's what you do07:35
JaymacSystem Settings > User Account07:35
JaymacDefault Applications07:35
bohaI have problems with kubuntu LIVE CD. I get this on my screen ->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i844307:35
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gleesondmabey because I switched from ubuntu07:35
Jaymacmozilla-thunderbird07:35
Jaymacin the email one07:35
JaymacI always do a base install of ubuntu and install kubuntu from there07:35
Jaymacbecause i like synaptic07:36
gleesondis synaptic not in kubuntu by default?07:36
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slow-motionre07:38
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_djznit should be07:40
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carloscomo va esto07:54
larsevening, everyone07:54
carloscanal espanihs07:54
larsanyone knows how the media:// -links in konqueror (KDE) are created?07:54
jpatrickcarlos: hola, esta aqui #kubuntu-es07:54
carlosok como me registro y pongo nick ,soy novato07:55
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Xemanth^whats kde 3.5.1 header package ?07:58
jpatrickeh?07:58
Xemanth^sob dev package07:59
Xemanth^i can't  compile programs which need kde07:59
jpatrickkdelibs4-dev07:59
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Xemanth^i have 3.5.1, not kde 4.0, it isn't even ready :|08:00
xigletirdadump shows my mobile phone, shouln't I have a /dev/ir* device?08:00
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jpatrickXemanth^: that's what the package is called08:00
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Xemanth^jpatrick: http://pastebin.com/54871608:01
jpatrick!info kdelibs4-dev08:02
ubotukdelibs4-dev: (development files for the KDE core libraries), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1274 kB, Installed size: 7308 kB08:02
jpatrickXemanth^: ^^08:02
Xemanth^jpatrick: ^^ like i said sob package08:02
jpatrickodd08:02
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Xemanth^jpatrick: indeed08:04
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brexelhi all08:10
bohaI have problems with kubuntu LIVE CD. I get this on my screen ->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i844308:10
bohacan anyone help me?08:10
_guiguihi08:11
visik7kernel problems08:12
brexelboha: seems linux doesn't like your sata controller08:12
brexelyou might wanna try fiddling with the sata settings in your bios08:12
visik7ubuntu kernel has some issue08:12
bohahmm what should i do08:13
brexeloh, is it ubuntu specific?08:13
visik7I got some varius problem with ubuntu kernels08:13
visik7problems never got on vanilla08:13
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bohabrexel what schould i do in bios?08:14
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bohai have 2 hard disks08:14
grxmrxis there any way to restore default kmail toolbar config?08:14
brexeli don;t know your bios but most bioses allow to change some stuff with the ata controllers...access modes and stuff like that. just try playing with those settings. also you might wanna try ide=nodma on the boot commandline though i doubt that will solve this problem08:15
visik7boha: boot with nodma08:15
visik7sould disable dma08:15
brexelgrxmrx: find .kde -name "*kmail*" -ecec rm -f {} \;08:15
bohaok i will try08:16
bohatnx08:16
brexelyw08:16
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brexelgrxmrx: find .kde -name "*kmail*" -exec rm -f {} \; <-- sry i mistyped :) that will reset *all* kmail settings08:17
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trappistbrexel: that's going to run into directories and fail08:17
brexeltrappist: nope08:18
brexelwe want to delete config files, not dirs08:18
trappistoh, so add -type f instead of getting the rm errors :)08:18
brexelwhat for? rm -f deletes files only anyway :)08:19
vega-any howto/wiki or something for NetworkManager on kubuntu?08:20
jahonhello all.08:21
brexelhi08:21
NRG88Nomad411, you here?08:21
jahonhow do you guys rate and feel about amarok?08:21
NRG88found a solution for thunderbird tray...08:21
NRG88well jahon08:21
brexeljahon: i think it uses too much cpu but it has great features08:21
NRG88i say this is the best music player i ever used :)08:22
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brexelNRG88: the tray extension?08:22
brexel^^08:22
NRG88noirequus, that works only in win08:22
sampanjahon  after updating to the backports one (so that it would stop eating 20+% of my cpu) it's excellent08:22
NRG88noirequus, that works only in win08:22
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NRG88hm08:22
NRG88stupid xchat :)08:22
brexellol sampan08:22
NRG88brexel, the tray extension is sadly for win only :(08:23
NRG88but i made it with KDocker08:23
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NRG88and it can do the same with any window08:23
trappistJaymac: I agree that it's a bit bloated but full of features, but if I wasn't willing to make that tradeoff I wouldn't be using kde :)08:23
brexelNRG88: nope i have it installed here08:23
NRG88even firefox08:23
trappisterr08:23
trappistthat was for jahon, who is no longer with us08:23
sampanlol ... was true though -- the breezy default version would inexplicably use 20-30% of my cpu ... but only on -some- files.  the backport version is perfect (except for the lyrics feature not working b/c the lyric site changed it's html format)08:23
_jahonreally?08:23
NRG88brexel, and it worked?08:23
brexelyes08:23
_jahoni finialy go it to work.08:23
NRG88from where? :o08:23
_jahonit looks like it will be a good player.08:23
NRG88mozdev?08:24
brexelyes08:24
_jahoni'm looking for a replacement to MusicMatch.  I have a Linux version but i can't get it to run.  It uses some other sort of wine...08:24
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feistelhi08:24
feistelsome Kubuntu member team here?08:25
NRG88brexel, is it this one: http://minimizetotray.mozdev.org/ ?08:25
feisteli have a simple question08:25
brexelNRG88: just a sec i'll check08:25
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NRG88ok08:25
brexelno that's not it08:25
NRG88may i have the link to your extension?08:26
feistelwhere I can find a how-to or guide to make my own distribution based in ubuntu, like Kubuntu?08:26
_jahongreat, my "/msg" command doesn't work again...08:26
_jahonhow many times do i need to register this name?08:27
brexelhmm where did i find that?08:27
sampan_jahon  if you already registered the nick, then you need to "identify" with nickserv in order to msg08:27
NRG88brexel, try a right click on the extension, and visit homepahe08:28
NRG88brexel, try a right click on the extension, and visit homepage08:28
NRG88or something, about.....08:28
NRG88there must be a link :)08:28
sampan(assuming, of course, that you registered the nick on a previous visit to freenode)08:28
brexeli just realized i have it installed installed at work only08:28
brexelnot here08:28
brexelbut hang on i'll have it soon :)08:28
brexeli'll just ssh there :)08:28
NRG88thanks :)08:29
brexelhttp://moztraybiff.mozdev.org/08:29
NRG88ssh? can ssh be used to control via GUI to?08:30
NRG88thanks :D08:30
brexelyes, but i used console only right now08:30
brexel(man ssh -> look for -X08:30
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NRG88oh :)08:31
NRG88brexel, this is not minimize, only show tray :(08:31
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NRG88or is it?08:31
brexeloh i think i misunderstood you08:32
brexeli thought u wanted a tray notification when a new email arrives08:32
NRG88noirequus, minimize to tray :D08:33
NRG88grr08:33
brexel:D08:33
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NRG88stupid xchat08:33
brexelxchat sucks :)08:33
NRG88when i write no and , it writes a nick >:\08:33
brexelsorry tehn, my mistake08:33
NRG88what do u use?08:33
brexelkonversation08:33
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brexellike almost everybody here :)08:33
NRG88Dj? :D08:34
DjDarkPingvinyes it`s me :D08:34
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SirinKONVERSATION RULES!08:35
sampanreal men use irssi :X08:35
vega-exactly08:36
brexelsampan: real men use nc08:36
brexel:)08:36
vega-real men use telnet08:36
SirinReal men use CLI.08:36
sampanlol i remember using telnet on undernet like 12-3 years ago -- monochrome green monitor, telnet irc -- mmmmm08:36
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brexelreal real men write a tiby socket implementation in asm and use that :D08:38
brexeltiny08:38
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brexelok, i'm quiet already...we all know how these conversations end from slashdot :D08:38
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_douglasWhat package would give me the ability to do this -lwx_gtk_gl in kdevelop. I need to know what packages I need to install to get this library!08:45
tsdgeosapt-file search libwx_gtk_gl.so08:45
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_douglaswow, apt-file, I hadn't heard of this, thanks!08:46
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brexelif it doesn't find anything try 'apt-file search libwx_gtk_gl'08:47
_douglastsdgeos, I have no apt-file command.08:47
brexelsudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update08:47
_douglasit's going08:47
_douglasthanks08:47
brexelyw :)08:47
_douglasI would think they would install that by default08:47
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brexeli guess many people never even need is08:48
brexelit08:48
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_douglasI guess, but it seems useful08:51
_douglasAlthough is taking forever to update08:51
brexelwell the apt-file db knows of EVERY possible file in EVERY possible package...08:51
_douglasyea08:52
_douglasthat would be a large list08:52
brexelyep08:52
_douglasdamn, kubuntu, only provides wx2.4 gl libs, and not wx2.608:52
_douglashrm... I wonder if it would work anyway?08:52
_douglasprobably not.08:52
brexel~ $ zcat /var/cache/apt/at.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Contents-i386.gz|wc -l08:53
brexel160071108:53
brexel1.6 million files ^^08:53
_douglasshit.08:53
_douglasthat's a pile o' files08:53
brexelyea ^^08:53
_douglasI wonder if I can find a binary of the lib, I don't want to get into a dependency mess with this.08:53
brexel~ $ apt-cache search libwx 2.608:55
brexellibwxgtk2.6-0 - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)08:55
brexellibwxgtk2.6-dbg - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)08:55
brexellibwxgtk2.6-dev - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)08:55
brexelcould one of those be it?08:55
_douglasI have those installed08:56
_douglasbut they don't include wx_gtk_gl08:56
_douglaswhich I'm using to make a map editory08:56
_douglaseditor08:56
brexelhmm08:56
_douglasI could use qt4, that would be cool.08:56
_douglasthat's cross-platform too!08:56
brexelqt4 is pretty good08:56
brexeland fast08:56
_douglasbut wxWidgets is very straight forward and easy08:56
_douglasand qt4 looks better, I'm not a big fan of gtk208:57
brexeli hate gtk08:57
_douglasI might just try it, although, isn't there some thing with qt where I'd have to pay.08:57
brexeli think it handles like win 3.1108:57
_douglasagreed08:57
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brexeliirc you need to pay if you use it commercially on win32 but that might have changed in qt408:58
_douglasI don't plan on commercial use of this specific product...08:58
_douglasso that would be fine.08:58
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_douglasTime to read documentation, thanks for you help, I'll be around... :)08:58
brexelyw :) good luck08:59
_douglasare you a developer of any sorts?08:59
brexelyes09:01
brexeljava09:01
_douglasnice09:01
brexelmostly servlets and jsp, no gui programs09:01
brexelyea i love it09:01
brexeli do mostly database stuff, one of my programs is also on sourceforge09:01
_douglasnice09:02
_douglasI'm working on a 3d engine right now.09:02
brexelcool :D09:02
_douglasAnd I've started the map editor09:02
_douglashence wxwidgets09:02
brexeli have no idea how graphical stuff works :)09:03
_douglasah.09:03
_douglasit's not that hard.09:03
brexeli played a little bit with qt but just for fun09:03
_douglaslike the qt designer? or actual code09:03
brexelboth. i also bought a book on qt09:03
_douglasoh cool.09:03
brexelbut i must say i like java better than C++09:04
brexelthough of course it is not suitable for a lot of things09:04
_douglasI havn't used enough java to decide that... I've mainly been using c++ for about 7 years09:04
_douglasit's a suitable language for graphics and optimization, so I stick with it.09:04
brexelcool :) you must be quite a C++ hero after 7 years :)09:04
_douglasI'm alright09:05
brexel^^09:05
_douglasI know what I'm doing, but I havn't gotten to the point of reading "the standard" yet.09:05
_douglas:)09:05
brexelhehe09:05
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sonicHi there, I've just switched to using KDE rather than GNOME in Kubuntu, but I can't find Synaptic anywhere. Can anyone help?09:11
brexelthe kde equivalent is called kynaptic09:12
sonicaha, thanks!09:12
JakubSor try adept09:12
brexelbut it seems most people are using adept09:12
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sonicok, I'll give that a shot09:12
_douglasadept is sweet09:13
brexeli prefer apt-get :)09:13
brexelbeen used to it for so long i just can't let go09:13
JakubSwell, me too09:13
_douglasI also use apt-get09:14
sonicI would use apt-get but I wanted to check if the version of the program I want to install is up to date09:14
sonicMaybe you'd know, I'm looking to install Subversion09:14
brexelwhat's the problem? :)09:16
sonicWell I wanted to get the latest version but I know Kubuntu is a bit behind in current versions09:16
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brexelif you really need the very latest version you could download the source and compile it manually09:18
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brexel ./configure --prefix=/opt or something like that09:18
TecnoVM64Hello people, I have a serious issue, "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!09:18
TecnoVM64" and it won't rebuild it or something, any ideas?09:18
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brexelman kbuildsycoca09:20
TecnoVM64brexel, erm, i tried reading that and used --noincremental but still doesn't work09:20
brexelhmm, what does it say?09:21
TecnoVM64the same line09:21
TecnoVM64No database availablre09:21
brexeli guess you need to run that as root09:21
TecnoVM64-r09:21
TecnoVM64ok will try that09:21
sonicbrexel: I'm still a bit dodgy about installing from source. What kind of sistuaions are recommeded for a source install and what kind aren't?09:21
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brexelsonic: i ALWAYS try to stick woth the package management. i would only install from source if the packaged version lacks some feature i REALLY need09:22
brexel*with09:23
brexelor if it is broken09:23
sonicCheers, I'll just do an apt=get so :-)09:24
brexel^^09:24
sonicAlso, I'm knew to IRC so what's ^^09:25
sonic?09:25
brexel^^ are two friendly eyebrows :)09:25
sonic:-)09:25
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NRG88Did you know? Windows has became open to...09:27
NRG88... to viruses, worms and hackers :)09:28
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brexelhehe. the microsoft way of being open :)09:28
NRG88yep :D09:29
brexelthey have it much harder than others...windows was designed as a single user OS with no networking support09:29
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brexelit was never meant to include multi-user support or privileges09:30
NRG883.109:30
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brexelbut their marketing is great :)09:30
NRG88nt was only a modified 3.1, right?09:30
brexelwell the kernel came from open vms09:30
NRG88yeah, marketing :D09:31
brexelthat is why nt was the first stable ms OS09:31
brexelhttp://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS.html09:31
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NRG88:D09:32
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brexelthat article is a `little` anti-MS but there are also some interesting historical facts on microsoft OSes09:32
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NRG88i red a few articles about ms and win :D09:33
brexelthe funniest thing is how MS kept and keeps buying and stealing good software and still make them work badly09:33
Ralph_Anybody: when I do an iwconfig, I get eth1 as unassociated. How do I associate the adapter?09:33
brexellike the openbsd TCP/IP stack09:33
brexelRalph_: in /etc/network/interfaces09:34
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SirinHeh. Kubuntu can do anything Windows can, except crash. :D09:34
Ralph_/etc/network/interfaces in configured correctly.09:34
Ralph_iface eth1 inet dhcp etc....09:35
NRG88one thing it can't, that's why i keep a windows on another partition09:35
brexelRalph_: what is the exact error?09:35
NRG88to run Dreamweaver 8 :(09:35
NRG88or even 709:35
Ralph_As mentioned: iwconfig shows eth1 as unassociated.09:35
brexeloh that is wireless09:36
brexeli read ifconfig09:36
NRG88hope these will be runable, but the best thing would be, if macromedia whould release a linux version09:36
brexelseems im not reading carefully today09:36
brexelRalph_: sry i have no idea about wireless networkung under linux09:36
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NRG88brexel, have a look at this :D09:44
NRG88Did you know, that Linux and Windows have a lot in common? For example both are open. Linux's source is open, and Windows'... well... the whole Windows system is. But Windows is much friendlier, it gives shelter to viruses, worms, trojans, and even welcomes hackers, and it does it on it's own, so you won't have to bother.09:44
brexelhehe09:45
brexelwell, i don't care too much for windows bashing...i don't like the OS but fortunately i don't have to use it09:45
brexelthere are reasonst why 70 % of all webserver's don't run windows ^^09:46
brexel-s09:46
brexel+s-t09:46
brexelomg i need typing and reading classes :D09:46
NRG88:D09:47
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ParkotronI've been considering upgrading from KDE 3.5 to 3.5.1, But I've seen that lots of people are having trouble with it on the forums, especially keyboard layouts. Have any of you done the upgrade and if so what have your experiences been?09:48
brexeli'm having no probs but i just use US keyboard layout and no others09:48
ParkotronAre you still able to switch keyboard models?09:49
NRG88Parkotron,09:49
NRG88i had the same problem09:49
NRG88it's a bug09:49
NRG88keyboard layouts dissapear :)09:49
brexellemme try :)09:49
NRG88there is a fix09:49
brexel:D yup they're gone09:50
brexeli never realized that09:50
NRG88ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb09:50
NRG88this symlink fixes eveything :)09:50
NRG88trie it, it worked for me :D09:50
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brexelnice :))09:50
brexelall there09:51
brexelthx09:51
NRG88yw :)09:51
ParkotronReally? That was the only thing keeping me from upgrading. Thanks.09:51
NRG88yw to :D09:51
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NRG88there's one more bug, that's annoying09:51
NRG88the hardrives and cd drives dissapear from storage media :(09:52
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NRG88i havn't found a fix for that, but i suppose that symlinking can fix it09:53
brexelhmm..i've had my setup for so long that i don't even know that existed :D i have scripts for like _everything_09:53
Skamanhi guys09:53
Skamanthere's a way to configure the network using the terminal?09:53
Skamani think the controla panel is not working good09:53
brexelSkaman: there's a way to configure EVERYTHING using the terminal09:53
brexelman ifconfig09:53
brexelman route09:53
brexelman interfaces09:54
Skamanthnx09:54
Skaman:D09:54
brexel:)09:54
Skamani'm noob09:54
brexelyw09:54
NRG88what is "man" in terminal?09:54
brexelman showhs you the MANual page of a command09:54
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trappistman man for more information :)09:54
brexel^^09:55
brexelyou can also use it in konqui09:55
brexelman:/ifconfig09:55
brexelpretty neat09:55
NRG88oh yeah, forgot that :D09:55
brexeli just tried that out and it worked :D09:55
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Skamanwell all i have to add is the correct gateway and dns09:57
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brexeldns lives in /etc/resolv.conf (man resolv.conf)09:58
kesslerI'm trying to setup a dual monitor setup (DVI = LCD Monitor, VGA = LCD TV) but i'm having some troubles. Now i've gotten the monitor to work, but the resolution on the tv is all wrong (320x240), i want it to be 720p (1280x720). Anyone know a guide for doing this, or at least have a few hints?09:58
brexeland gateway in /etc/interfaces (man interfaces)09:58
Skamanthnx brexel09:58
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brexelyou can try setting the gateway manually with `route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx`09:58
brexelyw :)09:58
Parkotronkessler: What video card?09:59
kesslerParkotron: geforce 6600 gt09:59
ParkotronI have the same one.09:59
brexelme too :)09:59
kessler:)09:59
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kesslerDo any of you have a working dual screen xorg.conf ?10:00
brexelyes10:00
ParkotronI'm currently running two CRTs: one 17" and one 15"10:00
kesslerif so, i'd very much like to see it10:00
brexellooking it up right now10:00
ParkotronAre you trying to clone the screen to both, or spread across both.10:00
brexelhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54890010:00
xtreme-10:01
Skamanoh SH*T is possible i don't have etc/interfaces?10:01
brexelSkaman: /etc/network/interfaces10:01
kesslerDoesnt matter, really, as long as i can keep my monitor as the primary screen. Clone would be the best, but i still have to be able to run different resolutions on the monitor, and on the TV10:01
Skamanahhhhhhhhhhh10:01
brexelsorry my mistake :)10:01
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kesslerbrexel: thx, i'll have a look10:01
brexel:)10:02
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UFOkessler i had with SuSE diffrent resolutions, i thind it should be in xorg.conf10:02
brexelkessler: FYI: the LeftOf and RightOf options simply don't work although they are in the nvidia readme...a known bug for like 3 years :/10:02
kessleroh10:03
UFOHmm.... my card is ati10:03
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brexelat least to my knowledge. might be fixed in the meantime but i dont think so10:03
SkamanTHNX brexel!!10:04
brexelyw :)10:04
Skamani made route add default gw ip10:04
kesslerUFO: i'm not sure it's possible to run individual resolutions if using "clone", but dunno10:04
Skamanand all works now10:04
Skamanthere's something wrong in kcontrol10:04
brexelSkaman: to make it permanent you must configure /etc/network/interfaces correctly10:04
Skamani'll make an update10:04
brexel"man interfaces" has some examples10:04
Skaman;)10:05
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Skamani'll take a look10:05
kesslerSo uhm.... You dont actually have to make multiple screens, monitors and devices in xorg.conf in order to get twinview? Is that a thing of the past (XFConfig-4)10:05
Skamani'll be back in a sec10:05
UFOSure you can but, maybe you have to use virtual desktop10:05
Skamani shut off the notebook10:05
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NRG88can i force every application, to use my KDE style cursors?10:05
brexelkessler: if u wanna use twinview you have only 1 screen10:05
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kesslerbrexel: i'm not 100% sure what i want, i'm kindda new to this dual screen thing. I want to use my monitor as usual, but with the ability to playback movies/games/whatever on the TV. As stated earlier, the dvi = pc monitor, and vga = hdtv10:07
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kesslerboth are lcd's btw, if thats of any importance10:08
UFOkessler, it should be possible10:08
brexelwell if the tv lives on the vga output the graphics card will just believe it is a second monitor won't it?10:08
UFOyes10:08
brexelso IMO you should just tro to configure the tv as a usual second monitor10:09
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brexelthe setup i posted you lets me watch movies on either monitor10:09
UFOI could try to use tft+crt+tv with my laptop and ati10:09
brexelso i believe it should work for you too10:09
UFOKessler, do you have nvidia or ati or something else10:09
brexelit's different with the s-video output but if u use vga+dvi it should work like that10:10
brexelUFO: nv 660010:10
UFOOk, i dont know how to work with it...10:10
kesslerUFO: geforce 6600gt10:11
skamanok edited my interfaces10:12
kesslerbrexel: my tv can use both s-video or vga, but i see no reason to use s-video over vga10:12
skamanlet's see if all workks good10:12
skaman:D10:12
kesslergl :)10:12
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UFOyes use vga... with vga all the colours has own wire10:13
brexelkessler: i would also recommend vga :) much easier to cfg10:14
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ParkotronDo you know what resolutions you're TV supports?10:14
brexelapart from that if you use svide the tv must be powered on at boot time10:14
UFOIs the tv crt or plasma/tft10:15
UFOBe carefull with plasma10:15
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skamanall good!!! Thnx again brexel!10:16
brexel:) great10:16
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kesslerUFO: it's LCD10:17
kesslerand yeah, i know... Thats why i dont use any hsync/vrefresh definitions in my xorg.conf10:17
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kesslerhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/548927 <- does this look right to you guys?10:20
ParkotronThat might work. Have you tried it?10:21
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hollywoodbkessler: do you actually use twinview and the Metamodes option?10:23
_heanolHi, i just installed kubuntu and got these errors both during installation and when i do a dist-upgrade now..10:23
brexelkessler: no, the metamodes and twinview option belon into the screen section iirc10:23
_heanolhttp://pastebin.com/54893510:23
brexelhmm _heanol are you root?10:24
sonicHas anyone here installed apache2, mysql5 and php5 on kubuntu?10:24
_heanolwell, using sudo10:24
brexelhmm10:24
Parkotronbrexel: Mine are under device and work fine.10:25
httpdssi have the "not fixed" version of kword, and after an apt update/upgrade , no new koffice version was downloaded .. is the fixed version under another repos ?10:25
hollywoodbtwinview and metamodes are nvidia driver options, they're in the correct spot. the docs are at /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz10:25
_heanolcan anyone check just what /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-freefont.hints is supposed to contain?10:25
brexelyou could try echo > /var/lib/dpkg/info/ttf-freefont.postrm but that might break the package10:25
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brexelecho > /var/lib/dpkg/info/ttf-freefont.postinst (that's the correct one)10:26
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brexelhttp://pastebin.com/548944 <-- mine looks like this10:27
brexelbut it looks as though it was a generated file10:27
_heanolyeah... :/10:28
_heanoli wonder what generates it10:28
_heanolfeels like the installation of defoma should10:28
ParkotronHow'd it go Kessler?10:28
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brexel_heanol: take a look at the postinstall script10:29
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brexel_heanol: sudo /usr/bin/defoma-font reregister-all /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-freefont.hints10:30
_heanol/etc/defoma/hints/ttf-freefont.hints: Unable to open, or empty.10:30
_heanolthat gives me that10:30
brexeldoes the file exist?10:31
_heanolnope10:31
brexelsudo touch /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-freefont.hints && sudo /usr/bin/defoma-font reregister-all /etc/defoma/hints/ttf-freefont.hints10:31
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_heanolsame error10:31
brexeldoes the dir /etc/defoma/hints/ exist?10:31
_heanolyes10:31
brexelhmm10:32
brexelman defoma-font10:32
brexelthere are some options described...you might wanna try them10:32
_heanolit's weird that no one else noticed this..10:33
_heanoldid a pretty much default install of 5.1010:33
KnowerrorsI just got a modem installed as /dev/536ep0, however, kppp doesn't show 536ep0 under modem devices, so I did "sudo ln -s 536ep0 modem" which works until I reboot, how do I make it stay or be visible to kppp?10:33
brexelKnowerrors: you need to tell udevd to create that device10:34
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brexelKnowerrors: or alternatively enter that symlink command in the udevd startscript in /etc/init.d/10:35
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_heanolis Konversation based on xchat?10:39
brexelno10:40
UFOI dont think sou10:40
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UFObut irc is finnish like linux10:40
brexel:D10:40
BigBadBen:Z10:40
UFOIt came with Amiga i think10:41
brexeli don;t think so :)10:41
brexeldid amiga even have network? :D10:42
UFO IRC was born during summer 1988 when Jarkko "WiZ" Oikarinen wrote the first IRC client and server at the University of Oulu, Finland (where he was working at the Department of Information Processing Science).10:42
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ParkotronI just upgraded to 3.5.1 and all seems to be well. Unfortunately, I forgot to write down NRG88's solution to the keyboard layout bug before I restarted. Do you still have that brexel?10:42
brexelUFO: i'm reading it right now :D10:43
brexelParkotron: sudo ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/share/X11/xkb10:43
UFOHey guys you ever used modems ;)10:43
ParkotronThanks.10:43
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brexelheheheh i didn't10:43
_heanolcan i get 3.5 when i'm on breezy?10:44
brexel_heanol: yes: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main10:44
brexelin /etc/apt/sources.list10:44
_heanolthanks :)10:44
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ParkotronDarn. I forgot to lock my self compiled GAIM 2.0b package and it got reverted in the upgrade to 3.5.1.10:46
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NoairKillerhow do I kill a irc username that got left on when I disconnected?10:48
_heanolNoairKiller: it will die eventually10:48
brexel /ghost10:48
_heanolif the connection is broken10:48
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NoairKillerbrexel: I tried /ghost, said Unknown command10:48
NoairKillerbtw, I am Knowerrors10:49
_heanol/msg nickserv ghost10:49
brexelthen the server probably doesn't support it10:49
_heanolif it's registered10:49
brexelio yea that might be :)10:49
_heanol:)10:49
kesslerHmm, how come kaffeine is unable to playback any video file i try? (Just installed kubuntu)10:49
_heanollol, seems this is just trouble10:49
NoairKiller_heanol: that worked, /msg nickserv ghost username password10:50
NoairKillerbrb10:50
_heanolyup10:50
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nexushey all10:52
brexelhey10:52
Knowerrorsbrexel: I opened the /etc/init.d/udev file, where in the file do I add the ln -s 536ep0 modem command?10:52
brexelKnowerrors: well that's the dirty method :) but you might add it somewhere at the end of the start section10:53
Knowerrorshehe, ok, whats the clean method?10:53
brexelbelog "start)"10:53
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brexelthe clean method is to make udevd provide that device10:53
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nexusi have a problem, i dont know that much about linux but i know a bit. im having problems compiling. i have 2 machines one with Ubuntu and this one (running Kubuntu) and i can compile fine on ubuntu but when i do it on kubuntu, it keeps telling me Permission denied when i try to run ./xxxxx.sh or compile anything. im logged in as root in the terminal,.. what am i doing wrong?10:53
Parkotronnexus: Is this on a partition other than /?10:54
brexelis the file executable?10:55
brexeltry to make it executable with chmod 755 ./xxxxx.sh10:55
nexusno its all on one partition (there is a second one but that was assigned for swap space) and when compiled its an executable, but there is also a .sh file with it which i never had to use on ubuntu, it just compiled (btw its written in C)10:56
brexelif that doesn't help the partition might be mounted with noexec10:56
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brexelalternatively you can run shellscripts with " sh xxxxx.sh"10:56
Knowerrorsbrexel: ok, how do I make udevd provide it?10:56
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nexusif i use chmod 755 it doesnt say permision denied, it just goes back to the command prompt10:57
brexelKnowerrors: sorry, don't know about that but the udevd manpage might help or the scipts in /etc/udevd/10:57
brexelnexus: yes and can you run ./xxxxx.sh now?10:57
nexusah, sh works, what about comiling,10:57
nexus*compiling10:57
nexusi have a file in the directory called makefile (which is usually made after using ./configure isnt it?)10:58
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brexelyes10:58
brexeljust type "make"10:58
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nexustyping in make says bash: make: command not found10:59
brexelthen you don't have the make program installed10:59
UFOapt-get install build-essential should work10:59
UFOProbably not only make is the thing you want11:00
nexusok make worked, i forgot how to install an application, is it make install?11:00
brexelyep11:01
nexusyup it is, cheers guys, it works now11:01
nexusthank you for your help11:01
brexelto "make install" you need to be root. ./configure and make should usually be executed as normal user11:01
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nexusalso, sorry to be a bother, but themes, if i download one and i right click, install theme, it seems to do something for a bit, but then when i goto check for the new theme/style, nothing has been added11:02
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heanolhow unstable is dapper?11:02
UFOthe network problem is wery nasty11:02
brexelwhich one UFO?11:02
UFOIt can loose the configuration on bad shutdown11:03
brexelhmm11:03
brexelthat sux11:03
brexelyou could make a backup file of a working config and copy it back with a @reboot cronjob11:03
nexusthemes/styles are listed under, System Settings - Appearance? arent they?11:03
brexelsry nexus no idea11:04
UFObrexel, i was thinkin the same11:05
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brexelUFO: though it would be better to find out why it breaks in the first place ^^11:06
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ClayGHey anyone remember what the arguement is with WGET to not download links when trying to grab a whole site?11:07
trispaceClayG: --level?11:07
brexel--domains11:08
ClayGhmm I was thinking it was -l but it looks lke that needs a value11:08
brexelcould that be it?11:08
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UFOi think the network problem has something to do with kde netconf package...11:08
trispaceClayG: level specifies how many levels of links should be fetched11:09
UFOWhen i installed kubuntu and did not configure network at install... i could not conf my network with kde.11:09
ClayGyes but how is a level defined11:09
brexelUFO: oh no idea. i use to cfg those things in the textfiles directly :)11:09
ClayGif it is a site then thats great11:09
ClayGif it's a folder then that isn't as good11:09
UFOyes same thing but, wlan card has a lot to write11:10
brexel:D11:11
brexelnever done that11:11
trispaceClayG: brexel is right then, you could use the --domain option11:11
brexelbut i'm getting an old laptop soon so i might find out soon11:11
UFOIt was quite tricky to install everything on my laptop11:11
UFOAt least the Radeonx70011:12
brexelwth is wrong? i keep drinking and drinking but i dont seem to get drunk :D11:12
brexelyes i heard s lot of bad things about ati+linux11:12
UFOWell after all everything had something to do with my turion prosessor (64bit)11:13
brexel64 bit is too young IMO11:13
brexelat least on ia and amd11:13
trispacebrexel: waited for that :)11:14
brexelhehehe11:14
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Ryugihello11:14
brexelwe could really use it in my company but we are still waiting11:14
UFOThe speed you got with 64bit on daily use is minimal, REALLY minimal if nothing ;)11:15
brexelyou don't gain any speed11:15
Ryugican the java j2ee be installed on kubuntu11:15
brexelyou gain more usable memory11:15
trispaceRyugi: yes11:15
UFOFloating point calculating and rendering ;)11:15
brexelwe're running some huge web applications in java which need a LOT of memory11:15
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brexelwell UFO only when calculatin huge numbers :)11:16
UFOJep11:16
kkathmandoes anyone know if there is a KDE equivalent to the Dia Diagram Editor?11:16
trispacekkathman: kivio?11:16
brexelRyugi: yes11:16
brexelRyugi: java.sun.com :)11:16
kkathmanok kewl I'll check that out11:16
trispacekkathman: the openoffice.org draw application isn't too bad to draw diagrams, but if you prefer a "native" KDE application go for kivio11:18
brexelUFO: the downside is that small programs have bigger executables on 64 bit systems and that they are sometimes a little slower11:19
BigBadBenand Umbrello for UML stuff.11:19
kkathmantrispace:  im writing some documentation, so wanted to know the closet analog to the gnome DIa app11:19
kkathmanKivio is the correct one I believe11:19
trispacekkathman: ok then :)11:19
trappisthrm.  how does kivio compare to dia?11:21
Ryugiits so hard to choose a linux OS nowadys.tons of choices11:22
brexelhehe11:22
trappistmaybe I'm just missing -data packages or something, but it doesn't look great11:22
brexelfor me any debian based distro will do11:22
trappistI sure wouldn't try to map my network with it11:22
KnowerrorsRyugi: go read on Distrowatch...11:22
trappistnope I have kivio-data11:23
KnowerrorsRyugi: two good distros to compare with ubuntu, PClinuxos, and Suse, both free11:23
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UFOdoes people use the default sudo thing?11:28
brexeli do11:28
Tonio_UFO: it is simply not possible not to use it.......11:28
brexelthough i have aliases for all commands i use often11:28
brexelTonio_: it is11:28
brexelsudo passwd11:28
Tonio_brexel: so you use it ;)11:29
UFOI dont use it11:29
Tonio_one but you do ;)11:29
brexelhehehe11:29
Tonio_even once only11:29
Tonio_UFO: how do you perform admin tasks ?11:29
UFOsu11:29
Tonio_UFO: it is not activated by default...11:29
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brexelif you're a hardcoren-non-sudo-user you can boot from cd with init=/bin/bsdh and set a root pw :D11:29
brexel /bin/bash even11:30
Tonio_but yes if you do a sudo passwd, you can reactivate the root account, although I don't think it is of any use....11:30
Tonio_sudo -s do'es the same thing than su11:30
brexeli like sudo11:30
Tonio_brexel: I also like the concept of using the same passwd :)11:31
brexel^^11:31
brexel~ $ alias | grep sudo11:31
brexelalias dist-upgrade='sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'11:31
brexelalias i='sudo apt-get install'11:31
brexelalias r='sudo apt-get remove'11:31
brexelalias u='sudo apt-get update'11:31
brexeli use these for example11:31
Tonio_I personnaly prefer not to use any alias11:31
brexelomg you must have fingers like a secretary :D11:32
Tonio_I did in the past, and the result was I was about unable to use another machine than mine.....11:32
_douglasI installed libqt4-deisnger but there's not a separate program for that, how do I run this?11:32
UFObrexel, or you could boot in single usermode direct from boot promt and change the password... thats the reason why grub has password option11:32
Tonio_brexel: and yes, that helps tipping fast ;)11:32
brexelUFO: yeah :)11:32
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Tonio_UFO: anyway, what's your problem with the sudo thing ?11:32
brexelTonio_: that's no problem for me since i work on a lot of different machines and not all of them have my aliases so i don't forget how stuff works11:33
Tonio_brexel: okay11:33
UFOI have been using linux for years and used to do with su :)11:33
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UFOThe only main reason is tab function11:34
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brexelwith the bash-completion package it also works with sudo ^^11:34
Tonio_UFO: it is possible to activate the extended completion anyway, works great, although I don't understand why it isn't activated by default.....11:35
systhey. does any one know why on my laptop the power remaing % is going down 5% a minute?11:35
brexeli must have spent months with my .bashrc :D11:35
_douglasnm11:36
_douglasdesigner-qt411:36
brexel_douglas: next time dpkg -L packagename|grep bin might help11:36
UFOsyst, try to change the performance profile11:36
systhow do I go about doing that? thx11:37
_douglashrm... interesting11:37
_douglasthanks11:37
Tonio_brexel: can't find the bash-completion package11:37
DavidRobinsonIf I have two OS's (XP and OSX) dualbooting, would installing Kubuntu and it's bootloader still let me into XP and OSX?11:37
Tonio_is it a package ????11:37
UFOright mouse button over battery pic on the bar11:38
brexeloh it is in the bash package now already11:38
Tonio_DavidRobinson: xp and osx on the same machien ?11:38
Tonio_brexel: it needs activation I think in bashrc, but I don't find the good line, an idea ?11:38
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brexelTonio_: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/54905211:39
brexelput this in .bashrc11:39
UFOxp and everything at the same time with wmvare11:39
Tonio_brexel: thx11:39
brexel(below if [ "$PS1" ] ; then)11:39
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trappistgerardocb: if all you ever say here is that you're away or back (or even if it isn't) please consider turning that thing off.11:44
gerardocboh... does anybody else get angry because of that?11:45
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as_284hello11:46
trappistnobody gets angry, but it's pretty annoying to get an activity flag on a channel where nothing's happening except somebody has gone to the bathroom or finished his cheesy-poofs11:46
as_284does anyone can help me create a fat32 or a ntfs partition in my hard disk?11:46
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UFOas_284: fdisk11:47
gerardocbtrappist, I do that when I go to work outside.11:47
gerardocbDoes anybody else get annoyed because of that?11:48
crimsungerardocb: please disable it.11:48
trappistgerardocb: but if you're not participating here, no one cares.  feel free to let people you're actually talking to know that you're stepping outside, but it's generally considered bad manners to spew it to channels you're idle on.11:48
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trappistirc has a perfectly serviceable /away system so that people who want to know can see if you're away or not.11:49
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gerardocbOh, excuse me. I'm using the feature directly from konversation. If konversation doesn't do that the way it must be, I think it needs to be modified.11:49
gerardocbBut, anyway, I better get out of this channel.11:50
gerardocbBye, guys.11:50
as_284i try it but it doesent let me mount it11:50
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heanollol11:50
trappistsigh.11:50
UFOmount /dev/hda*11:50
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UFOor whatever your hard drive is hdb or sda11:51
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nexushow do you change / choose themes in Kubuntu?11:52
NeoChaosXdoes anyone know why the hell XMMS is a dependency of SuperKaramba?11:53
trappistNeoChaosX: it probably comes with a theme that controls xmms, which means imho it should be a recommends, not a depends11:54
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NeoChaosXwonder who I need to bug to get that fixed11:54
NeoChaosXI don't need a second music player, Amarok works just fine for me11:54
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laszlokhow do i find out the size of a directory and all its sub folders on the command line?11:57
brexeldu -sh /dir11:57
brexeldu = disk usage11:57
UFOnexus its system-settings-->Appearance11:57
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nexusive gone in there, but new themes ive installed (with a kth extension) arent showing up ANYwhere in there :s12:00
NeoChaosXyou compiled these themes, right?12:01
nexusno, i downloaded them from kde-look.org i think12:01
nexusso i take it they arent compiled allready, so how do i compile them?12:01
NeoChaosXwas it a deb or a tar file?12:01

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