=== lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === j_ack [n=nico@p508D8CCB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === FourChannel [n=FourChan@68.62.120.127] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === FourChannel [n=FourChan@68.62.120.127] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [06:46] BenC: please pull from me again when you can. I have an endianess fix for gfs === CataEnry [n=Enrico@host1-59.pool873.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [i=fabbione@195.22.207.162] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-129-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-129-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-129-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-129-214.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-139-82.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:08] BenC: ping? [02:08] jbailey: pong [02:08] fabbione: will do [02:09] hey Ben [02:09] BenC: Since -15.20, I seem to be getting much more frequent kernel crashes on ppc64-smp. [02:09] (on an actual smp system) [02:09] The last two mornings I've come back to the machine powered off, and it powered itself off mid evening yesterday. [02:09] odd, nothing really changed that should affect that [02:10] I think this is diferent than the X crashes that I Was seeing, where I could often just ssh in and kill X and start again. [02:10] hmmm [02:10] Although I'd occasionally get crashes before that would lock the machine solid. [02:10] i wonder if it is a heating problem [02:10] i recall benh fixing something in that direction [02:10] that's one possibility, there was a recent therm change [02:10] I would've expected something in the logs in that case. [02:10] with the exact same kind of description [02:11] jbailey: it depends.. [02:11] what kind of thermal module are you using? [02:11] therm_pm72 [02:11] jbailey: if hw shutsdown without telling linux, it wouldn't [02:11] it might need something like verbose=1 to print more [02:11] BenC: Oh right, not an event saying "please shutdown, I'm too hot" [02:11] right [02:12] hw could just say, "oh fuck the OS, we're taking drastic measures" [02:12] Unfortunately, I don't have a serial port on this, so I'm not sure what I can do. [02:12] I should get around to implementing the kdump stuff at some point. [02:12] jbailey: what about looking at the module parameters? [02:13] fabbione: I haven't tweaked anything that I know of. What do you suggest? [02:13] yeah, enable verbose and see if there's some hint at this theory being correct [02:13] rmmod therm_pm75 [02:13] modprobe therm_pm72 verbose=1 [02:13] start removing your porn anime desktop and put a gay pic of Ben.. it might get less hot in that case [02:14] root@starshine:~# modprobe therm_pm72 verbose=1 [02:14] FATAL: Error inserting therm_pm72 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-15-powerpc64-smp/kernel/drivers/macintosh/therm_pm72.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) === jbailey checks dmesg [02:14] odd, that's one of my canned bug report suggestions, I'll send you the link :) [02:14] Yup, just doesn't know verbose. [02:15] fabbione: I could do up a picture of Ben and some tenticle pr0n. 'cause you know tenticle pr0n is *always* hot. [02:15] fabbione switched to the goats.cx website for his desktop and that worked [02:15] ahha [02:15] but his icons keep going missing [02:16] jbailey: read the comments at the top of therm_pm72.c [02:16] ahhahahaha [02:16] Hmm, I hadn't seen that suggestion before when searching, but I was mostly seaching for "ppc" [02:16] BenC: Swallowed up? =) [02:16] hehe, into anal obscurity [02:16] * - Add things like /sbin/overtemp for non-critical [02:16] * overtemp conditions so userland can take some policy [02:16] * decisions, like slewing down CPUs [02:16] (from the TODO) [02:17] fabbione: While you're in there, can you look up what the verbose parameter is, please? [02:18] there are no module parameters at all [02:19] if (rc > 0) { [02:19] state->adc_config = buf[0] ; [02:19] DBG("ADC config reg: %02x\n", state->adc_config); [02:19] /* Disable shutdown mode */ [02:19] state->adc_config &= 0xfe; [02:19] HMMMMMMM [02:19] jbailey: the best would be to compile it with -DDEBUG [02:20] Bah, the ongoing X problems don't help. *cRy* [02:21] jbailey: compile just that module with debug [02:21] that will add some more verbose output [02:22] it's a try [02:22] 'kay. I'll fire that up over lunch. [02:22] In the meantime, I'm going to keep it from loading radeon.ko and see if that helps the X problems at all. === jbailey reboots for this. === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-113-116.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mxpxpod [n=BryanFor@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CataEnry [n=Enrico@host1-59.pool873.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:26] Wow, I've made it to 2h of uptime. [04:26] Maybe it's truly just the DRI stuff with X that's killing it. [04:32] must be something specific to ppc64 or your chipset, because I'm using radeon on my pb without problems [04:34] Right, but you said you weren't actually using it much. [04:34] Although in the last day or so it's been failing after I've stopped using it - but I've been logged in each time. [04:34] So it could've been screensavers or whatnot. [04:35] on my pb I use it all day long [04:35] Hmm [04:35] I'd have to ask benh, I guess. [04:36] Hmm, I'm going to try removing the XAA hack that Fabio had me do before and see if it's the same or worse. === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:42] Nope, still need the Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps" === j_ack [n=nico@p508D98F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:48] Log for failed build of linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-15.21 (dist=dapper) [04:48] Missing /build/sparcbuildd/linux-source-2.6.15-2.6.15/debian/abi/2.6.15-15.20/sparc/sparc64 file. [04:48] BenC: is it known? [04:49] yeah, I never got a 2.6.15-15.20 build for sparc (nor a 14.19 for that matter) [04:49] oh right [04:49] they are built [04:49] we can't upload them [04:49] i keep building even if we can't upload, to catch FTBFS [04:50] the buildds will catch up pretty fast [04:50] BenC: echo 1 > debian/abi/ignore.sparc or sparc.ignore should do [04:50] that will allow you to "rebootstrap" the abi files later on [04:52] ah, ok [04:52] basically it will disable the abi checker on the specific arch [04:52] I already know it builds, but I deleted the build, so didn't have the file [04:52] no problem === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:07] fabbione: could you please bounce me your new megaraid patch? === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johnm [n=johnm@gentoo/developer/johnm] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:08] makx: all his patch does is let some cards get detected [06:08] it doesn't fix any sort of bugs === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:23] BenC: that sounds not so bad, as we carry the same old version ;) [06:51] it was a bug we introduced though, so unless you copied our changes, it wont really affect you [06:52] the source is on archive.ubuntu.com though === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:55] BenC: Machine died over my lunch break. Killing dri wasn't enough for that, I guess. [06:55] died as in locked up, or died as in shut itself down again? [06:55] shut itself down. [06:55] I haven't had any X lockups since killing dri. [06:55] weirdness [06:56] I've got my G5 running and I'm doing a dist-upgrade (it's still running -13) [06:56] I'll see if I can induce something [06:56] Is it bad that I'm hoping you have the same problem? =) [06:57] I'm hoping I do, so I guess it's ok :) [06:58] I have a nice java game and some GL programs lined up to run [06:59] GL has the nice effect of pushing CPU, graphics and memory all at once [06:59] and java is just a plain resource hog [06:59] =) [06:59] I haven't actually had it shut itself off in front of me yet. [06:59] So I don't know what leads up to it. [07:36] jbailey: a watched computer never shuts off ;) [07:36] mxpxpod: Sure.. I'll use that to explain to my wife why I never get up from this thing. [07:36] there ya go [07:36] seems valid to me === j_ack [n=nico@p508D98F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:46] it's odd, my G5 is 1.5ghz/1GB-ram, and my laptop with 1.6ghz/512MB-ram seems a lot quicker [07:46] sound on the G5 is a little choppy too === chuck [n=chuck@fpott03.dinmar.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:39] heylo === chuck is now known as zul [08:41] BenC: i was thinking of adding the qemu kernel module this weekend if there is a mol module [08:42] as long as the code is free and doesn't require any non-free stuff to load the module [08:42] ok.. [08:45] blah...we arent allowed to redristbute it === sn9 [n=danielg4@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:44] later